A duopoly break will benefits developing countries. It won't be soon, but, COMAC no need to rush since long waiting list for domestic market. They need some time to prove reliability and boost reputation. This is the key to capture international market. Fuel efficient, lower cost advantages are secondary. Slowly they will replace foreign parts which is the final objective to reach Made by China airplane. Someday they will be successful like BYD, Huawei, DJI, CATL, SMIC, etc
Africa and SOuth AMerica are VERY most likely customer for C919, remmeber majority of latin american countries have free trade deals with china, and in the majority china is the biggest commercial partner.
With 737 MAX doors maybe not bolted on. With C919 wings, engines, fuselage sections, landing gear, tail, passenger seats, overhead bins, jump seats, coffee maker(you read that right) maybe not bolted on.
I'm Chinese and I want to say the fact is that the LEAP 1-C variant used in C919 is indeed INFERIOR compared to the similar engines (LEAP 1-A and 1-B) used in Airbus and Boeing, with last generation material and technologies (such as poorer fuel economy, titanium fan blades as compared to composite materials), likely due to fear of CHINESE "stealing" their latest technology. Thus, the Chinese is currently developing their own engine replacement (CJ1000), but it takes time. Let's be real, Chinese technology is still behind the Western, and the only way to deal with it is to be humble and learn.
In 2022, there are 254 civil airports in mainland China, excluding Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan. Comac can survive just by flying domestic routes. If countries refuse to certify Comac commercial planes even though they meet the requirement, China can impose a tit for tat response and ban their commercial airlines from landing in Chinese airports.
@@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko Thats fine. Its blantantly clear that anyone who does deals with china will have IP stolen so it isn't worth it to deal with china in the long term. More and more companies are realizing this.
slightly biased, C919 is not as good as this video made it look. It has its own problems in design, efficiency and range. Plus it costs 20% more than Airbus and Boeing, last time I checked
It doesn't matter because the idea is to diversify away from US companies in case of sanctions. If the US refuse to sell its planes, it won't affect China as much and countries who are sanctioned like Iran, Russia and North Korea can buy this instead of Boeing and Airbus
read the blurb lol "Boeing and Airbus have dominated the commercial aviation sector for decades, but this might soon change, because China’s state-owned plane manufacturer has entered the race."
Why you say this, BRICS countries are not as stringent as the FAA or similar western agencies?. Embraer is in the B of BRICS and produces much better aircraft than Boeing or Airbus when same class. Embraer would be selling their E2 series like hotcakes in North America if it were not for the American "political" clause hurdle imposed on Embraer!
@@dc10fomin65 You must be kidding me. How do you think aircrafts are manufactured? High energy prices mean it cost more to produce a product which make it less competitive on the global market. According to Brazilian report, Brazil has the second most expensive energy bill in the world per capita. The survey carried out in 2022 points out that Brazil is second only to Colombia.
@@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko You right, did not look at it from that point of view, I stand corrected and educated, thank you, and best regards. I look at Brazil as loaded with Hydroelectric resources, ( Amazon and tributaries ), plenty of sugar cane ( alcohol products ) and reports of vast oil reserves off the Atlantic coast, perhaps not fully tapped, oh well, ciao!
Regrettably agree that C919 is the threat for Boeing and Airbus. Especially loosing big chunk of the Chinese market and potentially this BRICS+ association who are willing to sign Chinese credit. Another factor is rise of the budget airlines who are always looking to cut costs.
Comac still have to depend on the West on engines, avionics, etc. and even the undercarriage and fuses. These are juggler to Comac and will take advantage of this.
C919 should be advertised as not only cheaper than Boeing, but also certified as better and safer. Otherwise if they advertise it as similar quality to Boeing, it'll be dangerous. Boeing aircrafts are falling off the skies.
Why not? But also include that it passed the ISO code on safety standards both FAA and EUROPE AVIATION standards. It is normal to build so it can ease air travel congestion. 😮😢❤
It will pass the safety standards, because it is the copy of western airplanes, but the building quality is the problem. Comec would be banned from western airspace after couple of crashes.
Every single critical or complex system on the C919 is designed, engineered, and manufactured in western non-BRICS countries. The systems that are sent for use in the C919 are also severely restricted technologically to prevent IP theft of new advanced technologies. There is absolutely no chance that the C919 could ever be made or supplied without western companies. There are very few advantages to this approach, and COMAC has already spend a few hundred billion just to cobble together these non-native parts. Not exactly the revolutionary product you and they claim.
Why the US is so concerned about the Chinese aircraft..the more you pressure the more outstanding result will come from COMAC..this is a competition from China...remember that the Chinese are a very determined people...they never give up
I have and can say its just fine, some interior plastics seem inferior but its quiet (Unlike ARJ21) My flight was perfectly acceptable although the aircraft was the 3rd delivered to China Eastern at the time they had just 4 so pretty much brand new, it would be interesting to see it again and see if it holds up after 10 years in service.
A duopoly break will benefits developing countries. It won't be soon, but, COMAC no need to rush since long waiting list for domestic market. They need some time to prove reliability and boost reputation. This is the key to capture international market. Fuel efficient, lower cost advantages are secondary. Slowly they will replace foreign parts which is the final objective to reach Made by China airplane. Someday they will be successful like BYD, Huawei, DJI, CATL, SMIC, etc
Africa and SOuth AMerica are VERY most likely customer for C919, remmeber majority of latin american countries have free trade deals with china, and in the majority china is the biggest commercial partner.
With 737 MAX doors maybe not bolted on. With C919 wings, engines, fuselage sections, landing gear, tail, passenger seats, overhead bins, jump seats, coffee maker(you read that right) maybe not bolted on.
I'm Chinese and I want to say the fact is that the LEAP 1-C variant used in C919 is indeed INFERIOR compared to the similar engines (LEAP 1-A and 1-B) used in Airbus and Boeing, with last generation material and technologies (such as poorer fuel economy, titanium fan blades as compared to composite materials), likely due to fear of CHINESE "stealing" their latest technology. Thus, the Chinese is currently developing their own engine replacement (CJ1000), but it takes time. Let's be real, Chinese technology is still behind the Western, and the only way to deal with it is to be humble and learn.
You’ll catch up to within 10% of it
Not in 10 years. Aviation adoptations are slow and China does not have a lot of big market friendlies.
didn't you realize... the same thing happened in space/ISS when China was banned by the US. China will do it itself
I could be way off but big you think they would get certification to fly in other countries? I thought that was a requirement.
In 2022, there are 254 civil airports in mainland China, excluding Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan. Comac can survive just by flying domestic routes. If countries refuse to certify Comac commercial planes even though they meet the requirement, China can impose a tit for tat response and ban their commercial airlines from landing in Chinese airports.
@@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko Thats fine. Its blantantly clear that anyone who does deals with china will have IP stolen so it isn't worth it to deal with china in the long term. More and more companies are realizing this.
slightly biased, C919 is not as good as this video made it look. It has its own problems in design, efficiency and range. Plus it costs 20% more than Airbus and Boeing, last time I checked
It doesn't matter because the idea is to diversify away from US companies in case of sanctions. If the US refuse to sell its planes, it won't affect China as much and countries who are sanctioned like Iran, Russia and North Korea can buy this instead of Boeing and Airbus
No, you didn't check.
You just made it up.
C919 has never cost more than the As or the Bs.
True dude. But it's the initial time of manufacturing. The cost and expenditure of any industrial products are gradually getting down.
This clearly is advertising! It should be disclosed as such.
Name me the advertising company. Want to do business with them 😂
The C.C.P.
read the blurb lol "Boeing and Airbus have dominated the commercial aviation sector for decades, but this might soon change, because China’s state-owned plane manufacturer has entered the race."
The Comac C919 would be a great aircraft for the BRICS+, African, and SCO countries. Why focus on the West?
Why you say this, BRICS countries are not as stringent as the FAA or similar western agencies?. Embraer is in the B of BRICS and produces much better aircraft than Boeing or Airbus when same class. Embraer would be selling their E2 series like hotcakes in North America if it were not for the American "political" clause hurdle imposed on Embraer!
@@dc10fomin65 Brazil is not importing banned Russian energy at a steep discount. It's difficult to compete when energy prices are high globally
@@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko Say what? Energy is to an aircraft as a second tail is to a dog, nothing to do with it!
@@dc10fomin65 You must be kidding me. How do you think aircrafts are manufactured? High energy prices mean it cost more to produce a product which make it less competitive on the global market. According to Brazilian report, Brazil has the second most expensive energy bill in the world per capita. The survey carried out in 2022 points out that Brazil is second only to Colombia.
@@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko You right, did not look at it from that point of view, I stand corrected and educated, thank you, and best regards. I look at Brazil as loaded with Hydroelectric resources, ( Amazon and tributaries ), plenty of sugar cane ( alcohol products ) and reports of vast oil reserves off the Atlantic coast, perhaps not fully tapped, oh well, ciao!
Regrettably agree that C919 is the threat for Boeing and Airbus. Especially loosing big chunk of the Chinese market and potentially this BRICS+ association who are willing to sign Chinese credit. Another factor is rise of the budget airlines who are always looking to cut costs.
Especially when Boeing loses....big chunks of their aircraft mid flight! 😁😁😁
Comac still have to depend on the West on engines, avionics, etc. and even the undercarriage and fuses. These are juggler to Comac and will take advantage of this.
Since Boeing and Airbus can develop their own products, what is wrong with China when she joined the competition?
C919 should be advertised as not only cheaper than Boeing, but also certified as better and safer. Otherwise if they advertise it as similar quality to Boeing, it'll be dangerous. Boeing aircrafts are falling off the skies.
Any young pilot with an iota of sense should aspire to a type rating in the C919
Why not? But also include that it passed the ISO code on safety standards both FAA and EUROPE AVIATION standards.
It is normal to build so it can ease air travel congestion. 😮😢❤
It will pass the safety standards, because it is the copy of western airplanes, but the building quality is the problem. Comec would be banned from western airspace after couple of crashes.
If the Europeans n Americans believe they have superior aircrafts to the Chinese, they should not be afraid of Chinese competition.
This is some Chinese bot channel.... Report it
I prefer CM21 🎉🎉🎉
Which trade secrets did they steal to design their planes? 😂
Every single critical or complex system on the C919 is designed, engineered, and manufactured in western non-BRICS countries. The systems that are sent for use in the C919 are also severely restricted technologically to prevent IP theft of new advanced technologies. There is absolutely no chance that the C919 could ever be made or supplied without western companies. There are very few advantages to this approach, and COMAC has already spend a few hundred billion just to cobble together these non-native parts. Not exactly the revolutionary product you and they claim.
Why the US is so concerned about the Chinese aircraft..the more you pressure the more outstanding result will come from COMAC..this is a competition from China...remember that the Chinese are a very determined people...they never give up
Don’t think so. Would never fly in one v
I have and can say its just fine, some interior plastics seem inferior but its quiet (Unlike ARJ21) My flight was perfectly acceptable although the aircraft was the 3rd delivered to China Eastern at the time they had just 4 so pretty much brand new, it would be interesting to see it again and see if it holds up after 10 years in service.
not now.
embraer still exist...
Boeing's nightmare! Viva C919, 929, 939.................................................
US could always ban the plane.
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This is a joke.
Keep dreaming
Ask Nepal why they dumped Arj21 after operating for a few years. Chinese products don't lust.