I was an avid tanner in the 90s all year around. I suffered a skin cancer removed and major skin damage. This was at 25 i stopped all sun, became bestfriends with sunscreen and got on tretinoin. Now im 40 yrs old. Ive been on tret continuously for 15 yrs no breaks. I have thick, plump, even toned wrinkle free skin. I get compliments all the time on my skin and not looking my age. I tribute it all to tret. I will use it until my last days, maybe throw a tube in my casket for the afterlife. Thats how much i love it.
Good for you! 🎉 I was the same way in the 89's and am going to start using tretinoin, hopefully I can get close to as good as you!! I LOVE sunscreen, my absolute favorite is Australian Gold mineral lotion, so smooth and provides EXCELLENT prte8!! 😊
I have been using tretnoin for a year now. I feel like my skin is tight, i can't smile, laugh. Everytime i smile i get wrinkles on face. What am i doing wrong? Also i can only use gel moisturizers as i have acne prone skin. Please help.
But we are. Aestetician and advanced pharmacy school teachs us to use retinol as active ingredient against fat. Retinol and cafeine are very effective at it.
Right. There's always a couple "experts" that try to make a name for themselves by intentionally spreading misinformation, usually along the lines of "I discovered secret information the medical community is hiding from you!" No doubt he probably has a product of his own that's miraculously a "cure" for the particular ailment he claims to be an expert on. Or selling a book, podcast, something. There's usually always a financial motive for this behavior. We always have to be sure to look into these sorts of things on our own, too. Never take bold claims at face value. I appreciate you, too, Dr. Dray!
Where's the education and/or expert knowledge supporting the title, "Scientist"? According to a 2012 press release the "Scientist", "has an undergraduate degree in German History from Yale University and a Master’s of Science in Corporate Finance from Carnegie Mellon University."
As someone who is on tretinoin I am sooooo glad I sat through probably the longest TH-cam video I have ever sat to involving a person speaking. The way you dissolved the medical misinformation was just so top tier and we so need more of that!!!!! Thank you!!! After a month of adjustment hell I was so scared it was for nothing but at the 2 month mark I’m starting to see the benefits.
It took me over 6 months to start seeing a difference in my skin using tretinoin. I’ve been using it for a little over one year now & my skin is in the best shape it’s ever been in. In fact, I just got a new prescription for a stronger dose & I’m going through the peeling stages again. I call it having dandruff on my face because it’s constantly shedding. I know this shedding will only last a couple weeks, at tops, so I’m OK with it. Please don’t throw in the towel too soon. It really does take quite a while before you see results.
I've been using Retin-A for 15 years and my skin is great! Thank you for making this video. I'm so sick of people trying to scare us about every damn thing!
@@davidgrossman8830 I did notice about 6 years ago that I was getting a little bit of a sunken look, but I got a bit of filler on my tear trough and it fixed it. Haven’t had to get it again.
Tretinoin improved my skin quickly. I had to back off this winter because of excess dryness, but I didn't stop using it, I just decreased the frequency and added a better moisturizer. Thanks, Dr. Dray.
@@loriburkett5692 For me the Cerave moisturiser in the jar (with ceramides) and The Ordinary Squalane oil helped a lot with my winter dry and Tretinoin peeling skin :)
Aquaphor is the best for tackling dryness from tretinoin I'm the same in winter I just use 8t 5 days a week and plaster on Aquaphor then break for the weekends
I hope you don’t mind me chiming in here…IUNIK beta-glucan moisturizer has been working great for my dry skin the last few months, along with their serum.
I missed this controversy the first time around and just watched the two Honest Channel videos and wow, he really thought thinning down elastosis is a bad thing! 🤦🏻♀ In the second video he says there's no evidence of elastosis, right after the word "elastosis" in the paper was on screen a few minutes earlier. Then he starts equating procollagen with collagen. So much for his "on-the-job scientific training"...
I started using tretinoin when I was 49, I am now 54. My skin looks so much better than it did when I was 49. No thinning of my skin. No loss of elasticity. My sunspots have disappeared or lessened. This guy is crazy.
@@Style_224 I don’t see your point, he’s still a skincare grifter but ok 👍🏽 influencing others (with non facts) for his own monetary gain. The interviewer even stated that if she notices negative aesthetics because of his advice she’s coming for him. He successfully influenced her. So…yeah….
My dad used retin A throughout his 70s and 80s. He would get so many compliments on how baby smooth his skin looked. I started using it about 8-9 months ago, and initially my melasma looked worse and skin looked very dry and irritated, but I think now with greater tolerance it’s starting to get better.
@rachelh9550 putting on moisture before can help. I use aquaphor on top at night, but this seems to help some people and irritate others. I've had success with snail mucin, centella asiatica, and hyaluronic acid serums, too. A daytime moisturizer with urea could also help. The one from Eucerin is nice and pretty inexpensive. I don't really have much dryness from it anymore, so hopefully, yours will be temporary, too.
@@rachelh9550 If your skin is too dry, skip a day or two and use gentle products. I highly recommend La Roche Posay Hydrating Gentle Cleanser. And then Beauty pie’s Happy Face moisturizer. I also like their Plantastic moisture balm. And if it’s super dry add a tiny bit of Vaseline petroleum jelly on top of your moisturizer.
I started Retin-A way back when it was only prescribed for acne. I was in my early 20s with chronic adult acne and I will soon turn 71 and have continued with prescription trentinoin all these years, even after the acne phase stopped. My skin is in great shape and I am often complemented on it and have very few wrinkles.
@@morgianasartre6709 i also use tretinoin. My dermatologist has sworn me to use sunscreen during the day, every day. She said that even if a use it at night, the components are still in effect during the day so its very important to use sunscreen
Okay I JUST watched this a couple weeks ago and have been dying to know what Dr. Dray would say about it. I thought it was just some obscure video that she wouldn't hear about though. Wild. Thank you so much for covering this 🥰
You are like a boon...you have played and important role in easing my struggle with cystic acne and yet again I was looking for clarity regarding this particular claim and here you are with your view on it. I trust you 🤗
I’m so tired of people picking out information that they like and ignoring the rest, as if there isn’t a larger picture with all of the data! Thanks for clarifying this for us!
I've been using Retin A for about 8 years and it's made a huge difference to the condition of my skin. In addition to my face I also put it on my upper back as far as I can reach over my shoulder (for spots) and my husband commented that he could see a marked difference in sun spots between the upper part of my back and the lower; the lower having far more marks as I had not applied Retin A. My skin in now smooth and clear and I should add that I now only use Mineral sun screens and moisturisers without perfume (thanks to Dr. Dray's postings) as my skin is slightly more sensitive. It's a game changer!
I’ve been using Retin A since I was 36. If you compare my skin to women my age (58) who don’t use Retin A, my skin looks about 20 years younger than them. No comparison. When people ask me what I do for my skincare, I tell them Retin A is the gold standard. When I’ve had other treatments dermatologists always comment on the thickness of my skin.
my report is purely anecdotal but in the 2 yrs i’ve been using tretinoin, my face skin feels very robust, plump, healthy and the tone much more even than before i started. i say this, however, in relation to the COMPREHENSIVE skin care routine i have been following, which includes hyaluronic acid, ceramides, anti oxidant ingredients and of course consistent SPF. thanks so much for your input Dr. Dray, i definitely trust your word on all things skincare. happy thursday 🌸
This is why Dr. Dray is my favorite. I LOVE research and I have so much respect for how she breaks down studies and data in digestible ways that we can understand without compromising the integrity of the research or science overall.
It really does take someone special to be able to accurately read and interpret data from studies and be able to communicate it in a way that makes sense to people outside of the research community; we're very lucky to have you Dr. Dray
Yup, I'm only recently realizing that with all that has been going on since 2020. It's quite interesting to see how many people don't seem to know how to accurately analyze and interpret data and to understand how to translate it into context. Scary thing is SOOO many people are using data to make decisions and they are not interpreting them properly. We it in so many industries, not just the beauty one. You big corporations making MASSIVE financial decisions from raw data that they aren't considering the context of or applying any common sense to. It's strange.
Tretinoin has completely transformed my skin! So much that I've pretty much eliminated foundation from my makeup routine because I. Just. Don't. Need. It🙌🏼💯
This is a really good example of the importance of source criticism and reminder to check people's academic credentials rather than just listening to people who "look" like a doctor and sound compelling. Thank you for sharing your great qualified knowledge with us Andréa!
It doesn’t. I have used it over 40 years and the first thing anyone says to me is, you have beautiful skin. These are people who have known me over 15 years and haven’t seen me for a few years. I started using it at 20. It came from Europe and I don’t go in the Sun. I should have said people recognize my skin isn’t aging at the same rate as their own. It’s not like getting a face lift and losing your uniqueness it really helps you age beautifully. I also exercise and keep my weight in check.
I’ve used Retin A for decades and have had no issues. I constantly get compliments on my skin and compared to my friends who have not used there is a significant difference in pore size, wrinkles and general health of the skin. Best thing I ever used along with sunscreen to keep my skin looking good even at 71!!
I started following you fairly recently and have been so impressed with you. What I absolutely love about what you share is your calm, to the point and clear breakdown of the science of how skin works, how it behaves and how the chemistry works. That you back up your statements with stable data, scientific studies and professional experience. This video is exceptional in that you lay out how to listen to alarmist drivel and pick it apart with stable scientific data. The skin care industry and it's lackey wackos are making billions presenting false and misleading (sometimes dangerous) information. Brava to you Dr. Dray for being the sane, educated sage that you are. I recommend you to everyone!
I am so grateful that you made this video. I watched the previous one and then tried to do my own research but didn't find the info he spoke about and wondered if I was looking at the wrong sources. I truly appreciate having your expertise to clarify the information. I trust your approach due to the quality of your analysis of scientific literature as well as utilization of critical thinking. Thank you again.
Yes, I saw that. He is selling a cream and wants the millions of tretinoin users to switch to his product. Even so, I did see the video a couple of weeks ago and was a little unsettled by it. Thank you so much for your reassuring response. I have followed you for several years and trust you to present good, relevant studies to fully back what you say. Love you Dr Dray xx
I think his product looks interesting and would try it but his marketing is shady. Surely if the product is as good as he claims results would speak for themselves and there'd be no need to run down other products.
Actually the effect of his cream has NOTHING to do with the effect of retinol. His cream promises restoring fat underneath skin while retinoides trreat wrinkles, acne and skin resistence. So it doesn't make much sense to say his rosting retinoides to promotd his stuff, they could perfectly be used together.
@Valeria Gopaul Exactly. People don't even think about how the diligent sunscreen use and sun avoidence necessary to use retinoides may be a fsctor involved in the reported anti aging effects.
I’ve been using the cream since September. I love it, it’s improved the fat loss around my mouth. Didn’t do much for the eye area but nasal labial folds, marionette lines greatly reduced and lips a lot plumper, especially the top border.
I have been using Retin-A for 40 years, and I can assure you it works! Lol... Every time I hear people doubt it I just laughed to myself. I have a 31-year-old daughter and we are routinely confused as sisters everywhere we go. It's just a fact. So all you younger women out there believe me and trust me get your butt on tretinoin and use it regularly you will thank yourself down the road! Oh and I am going to add, everything that Dr Dray says about sunscreen is absolutely true as well! I have been using sunscreen regularly since I was 11 years old. And yes I actually apply it two to three times a day! That is one of the most important things, keep your face out of the sun! And the rest of your body as well, your legs may look great tan when you're 25 but when your past 40 that won't be the case anymore! Besides there's always self tanners and if you have nice smooth skin when you're older it's the perfect canvas for self-tanners! 😃
unfortuantely here in germany the doctors dont prescribe it soley for cosmetic reasons, only if you have hardcore acne ..so i guess i am stuck to retinol...i hope it will help thoug as well:)
May I ask why you wore sunscreen regularly in the early 80s? The effects of UVA rays on aging haven't been studied as extensively back then and all sunscreens available at that time were not broad spectrum (only formulated to protect against UVB rays). The only FDA approved chemical UVA filter Avobenzone hasn't been approved until 1988 and mineral sunscreens have not been anywhwere near cosmetically elegant at that time and nobody would have worn it daily. So what was the point?
@@crystalclear7512 wrong, number one I'm very fair skin blue-eyed and we live in Southern California and moving here from Michigan when I was nine. We regularly bought a sunscreen called Ti-screen, and it was one of the few sunscreens that had Avobenzone. It was very well known about sunscreen usage in the '80s lol I don't know where you're getting that information from! The problem was the lack of available sunscreens that protected against UVA which is why we bought the Ti-screen because it was the only one that was face-friendly and had the avobenzone in it. I used that particular sunscreen for quite a few years until they started coming out with better ones. Living in Southern California and going to the beach as a blonde blue-eyed white girl and not wanting to get fried, believe me sunscreen was a very important thing in our household! The only problem was being called Casper and white girl! Lol funny though I never gave into peer pressure and did not allow myself to tan. Smart move that I don't regret.
I’m so glad I found your response video. I listened that other video and got so worried about it that I was ready to change my way of using tretinoin to three times a week. I’ve been using it since I was 39 now I’m 60 and have seen the long term results. People do not believe I’m 60. Basically I use it every night.1% concentration. During the day I use a hyaluronic acidic serum, a moisturizer and sunscreen. Never, never leave without sunscreen.
Thank you Dr. Dray for clearing up these nonsense that have been pretty intimidating. I love how you base your arguments on data and research, such a queen ❤
Tret 0.25 did nothing for my skin personally. Derm bumped me to Tazorac 0.1% and it’s been tremendous so far. Currently 4 weeks in. Can tolerate up to 5x a week. Has especially helped with my sebum overproduction. Skin is baby smooth. Optimistic about long term use. Retinoids are the way.
I’m currently starting with 0.025 and it’s enough for me to notice a difference. I didn’t want to just launch in to a higher dosage. I am using the Menarini brand.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU! I think every one of your subscribers probably had this show up in our feeds. Even when I was trying to go to sleep last night, I was thinking about that video. Thank you for being the voice of reason and thank you for how you value our trust in your expertise. I feel like, as a subscriber for many years, I can count on you to bring us correct information because your own integrity is important to you. And as I get older, I ponder the the things and people for which I’m truly grateful. You, Dr. Dray, are a blessing!
SOOOOOO GLAD that she took this up! i was expecting a bombardment of questions from our shared viewers....now i just need to point them to her video. thank you for your hard work!
I’ve been using prescription tretinoin for over 6 years. How I knew it was really working is when a very prominent scar on my forehead starting smoothing out. I was in an automobile accident when I was 14 and hit the windshield so hard it pulled out a chunk of my hair and several layers of skin. It’s ALWAYS been a weird and bumpy square patch for my entire life. It is as smooth as the rest of my skin now. I’m also 55 and no one ever believes that is my age. I started when I was 49 with pretty decent skin to begin with. But this has been a game changer. I have never experienced any adverse reactions and I also have sensitive skin.
I can definitely tell just by glancing at your videos! It's incredible what it can do for the skin. If you watch the original video that Dr. Dray was responding to, this guy is OF COURSE selling a face cream. Add in fear-mongering, and his goal is to get people to buy his product instead.
I'm never stopping my Retin-A. My skin looks so perfectly even and I don't get much acne anymore. People ask me what I use and I say, tretinoin...and sunscreen, of course!
I have used tretinoin regularly now for 5 years, along with daily SPF. I started at 0.05% and now use 0.08%. It has cleared most of my hyperpigmentation, and my skin is more even toned and plump. The biggest difference I have seen is with my pores. I have sebaceous filaments and the tretinoin keeps my pores clear and unclogged. It has been a game changer for me. Thanks for presenting a clearer picture of the information being circulated out there..that’s why I’m here!
Thank you, Dr. Dray. I'm so tired of people who can't even properly interpret the data going around spreading their nonsense with such an air of authority.
I had fat loss due to my age before I started using Retin-A. Since I've been using it (combined with a consistent skincare and sunscreen), my skin is beautiful and smooth, and it removed an actinic keratosis on my forehead too. Thank you, Dr. Dray, for addressing this.
@Flower Girl I haven't started yet, I am 64 years old and my acne is back. Please would you share with me your routine, strength, and how long you have been using retin-a? I sure would like your results even though I am so late in getting started. Thank you!
@@TheRuthyc I use Curology, which you can get online. They will do an analysis of your skin and recommend a formula for you. I've been very happy with the results. My formula includes Retin-A and a couple of other ingredients to address other issues that I have. Best of luck to you!
Happy Thursday, Doc, and thank you for this response video!! I have been using tretinoin, consistently, for decades. My dermatologist started me on it, when I was in my 20's, to help with my cystic acne. I battled acne until my late 30's and I continue to use tretinoin NIGHTLY. I now use it for fine lines/wrinkles/sun damage. I will be 50 in 2 weeks time and I cannot tell you how many times I receive compliments on my skin. I have no doubt that tretinoin, combined with my other skincare/sunscreen habits, is the reason my skin looks so incredible at my age. These fear mongers need to chill! 💯
I truly believe that some “dermatologist” are afraid that if more people discover what tretinoin can do,they will lose their patients,so they feel the need to say all this ridiculous bullshit about tret🫠🤷🏻♀️
I started using tretinoin 34 years ago. I just turned 48. Like you, coupled with SPF use/skincare my skin looks incredible at my age. Learning about this gentleman's background makes me question the purpose of the original video. Happy Birthday!
You tell them the FACTS, Dr. Dray. It's clear you have nothing to promote other than the FACTS. Great job, wish this were a live debate. After you finished you'd have to have done a 🎤 drop
I just got out of a facial from a new esthetician, and when I told her that I have been using retinol for 5 years, she told me all about skin thinning and how it ages you and how it dries my skin out artificially (how is it much different from a clay mask then?) and it’s the worst thing for my skin. She tried for the full 2 hours (I was scheduled tor 1 hr but she wouldn’t stop talking) to get me off the retinol. That’s what led me here. She also made a lot of points that made her sound like a snake-oil salesman. Thank you for this video, I know I won’t be going back to her.
i'm also a doctor and I should say kudos to Dr. Dray for being so calm and composed with this reaction video. i mean, just watching it from here, i can't help with my "WTF" and "HUUUUH" and some little eyerolls and exasperated laughs hahaha I can't. Thank you so much Dr. Dray for being the calm and composed voice of derm science. 👑
Doctor Bluestardiver, would love to hear your thoughts about the Bhawan paper? Upper dermis thickness reduced by 65% after 4 years. Melanin content reduced by 81%. Please explain how these effects are beneficial to the skin. Dr. Dray hasn't. It will take more that "they didn't say that" or "WTF" to change the facts.
Calm and composed? She was extremely arrogant and Ivan posted a reply on the same video of the Honest channel rebutting her and showing her cherry picked data points.
I've used Retin-A for (oh gosh) 40 years. I have had zero issues with it and my skin looks like I'm 20 years younger than I am. I stand by this as the SINGLE best thing I have ever purchased to improve my skin (that - and sunscreen).
I was literally just about to write a comment asking if its okay for long term use. I've been using for a little over two years, and I use it every night. I wear sunscreen every day and don't go out in the sun much. I was planning on using it forever, as long as my doctor keep prescribing it.
I started with Tretinoin a few years ago using 0.05%. Prior to that, I used retinol creams. I now juggle between both types. I’ve never had a side effect, except maybe for some slight dryness or flaky skin. Sometimes I’ll use a very light serum or moisturizer under the Tretinoin if I’m feeling sensitive. I also don’t use it every day and alternate with things like Vitamin C or Glycolic acid. It has always seemed safe and effective to me. Thanks for this video.
Thanks Dr Dray 🙏 I’ve been using Retin A for 12 years everyday and my skin looks amazing! At 47 I am wrinkle free, I have plump, even and very clear skin. No thinning and no issues whatsoever. Just remember to be sun safe - always and be diligent with sunscreen. Sending love from Australia! ❤️ 💕 ❤️ 💕♥️💕♥️💕♥️
I know tretinoin works on texture and fine lines. I have been using it for a year now and can clearly see the results on my own face. It works!! Thank you, Dr Dray 🙂 God bless.
@@dianafox7188 sometimes your Medical dr will prescribe it but typically it is through your Dermatologists so they can keep an eye on you. I hope this helps you
So many people look at scientific studies incorrectly or take bad studies as absolute truth. Thank you for talking about looking at a study critically and representing it properly!!
Misinformation is dangerous and so prominent in this day and age. I have been using retinol for 2-3yrs and it has transformed my skin. I just turned 30. My skin looks more plump, firm, and even. I personally love it. Thank you so much Dr. Dray for providing your medical expertise and debunking the sea of 🤡🤡🤡🤡 .
I'm counting down the days until I can finally start Tretinoin, once I'm done breastfeeding! 🥲 I've since found "Bakuchiol" which apparently is a plant retinol alternative & safe for bf! It's doing alright, def makes a difference, but I wanna bring out the big Tretinoin guns! 💪😂
@@JaseekaRawr bakuchiol is not a alternative to retinol just like how willow bark extract is a not a alternative to salicylic acid it just a antioxidant
Hi I actually follow the honest channel and watched that video, afterwards I went straight to your videos regarding tretinoan and after listening to you I continued to use my tretinoan, iv seen such good results there's no way I'm stopping it. Thank you for giving us your professional opinion xxx
I did see the featured video discussion earlier, and found it a bit confusing. I'm so happy that Dr. Dray made a reaction video like this. This is the kind of content that makes me respect her personality and her professionalism.
THANK YOU !!!!! You confirm my Knowledge of Retin-A and all I learned from YOU! I’ve been using Retin A now on and off for 30 years! I was very distraught by this video I watched it two weeks ago.
I am so thankful for you doing this response video. Thanks for all the hard work you do for us. I imagine it's exhausting having to come out with these videos to combat all the misinformation people spread. Thank you for keeping the record straight for us all.
It is ! He's selling a face cream. I seen another video of his where he said he discovered skincare because he used his wife's face cream and realized it made his skin softer and he thought "why aren't women aware of face cream?" Or something like that, like because he used his wife's face cream he seemed to think he was the first person to ever discover face cream ? It was odd. Everytime he talks he seems to be coming from the idea that women, his audience, could not possibly know anything at all about skincare already on our own. I feel like he views us as clueless babies that he's trying to teach about the concept of face cream , from the other video I seen of his trying to sell his face cream
I really appreciate how you broke this down & allowed their entire comments to play out. Please keep exposing this misinformation & disinformation! Silence 'em with FACTS. I think it'd be awesome if you and Michelle (from LabMuffinBeauty) did a collab reacting to more stuff like this.
21:50 Very well done stating the fact that, this anology may not necessarily be completely accurate. I know for a fact, retinoid acid receptors tend to get down regulated with use anyway with use - meaning, you are not constantly "forcing" your skin to "work out without rest" even if you want to. Not to mention there will be a theoretical receptor saturation eventually with continued use (hence the higher strengths are not necessarily better). I think all in all, such "response" videos by Andrea are the moments when we tend to see her PhD site as she is an MD-PhD essentially and not always but mostly, PhDs tend to, by the virtue of the entire training is aimed to make you a scientist with critical reasoning skills, better analyse the outcomes of different bodies of research.
I responded to this video a week ago - I was shook because I’ve been using tretinoin for 15 years and at 56 I get asked consistently by strangers - what do I do with my skin. I feel my cheeks are still full and my skin very smooth and clear. I’m so relieved to see your video Dr Drey - thank you !! 🙏🏽💕
I had watched the video but thought all the Derms I follow on TH-cam and IG can't be wrong. I'm so glad you did this reaction video as I was really disappointed that the Dr on the video didn't do a better job at debunking his statements/theories. If Tretinoin caused fat loss then people would be lined up to get Costco sized barrels of it to apply to their entire body.
Please make a response to theHonestChannel's red light therapy video! I really hate misinformation and it's difficult for just regular people to figure out who and what to trust, so I appreciate you really giving us the facts with scientific proof to back it up.
Thank you for addressing this. I had seen the video that you commented on but also saw a video last year which was an interview with the CEO and co founder of OneSkin. She said that they found an increase in inflammatory markers on the lab grown skin using retinoic acid (mentioned IL 6 and IL 8 I believe as examples). She seemed to conclude that what they saw in the lab did not support retinoic acid as being anti aging. She also said that you exhaust the tissue because there are only so many stem cells to turn over. She stopped using it based on theirs findings. It’s all so confusing!!
I remember seeing this video and immediately disregarding it because I had already informed myself through your videos that there is only studies supporting the fact that it does not thin and in fact does the opposite lol
I’ve been using Tretinoin since I was 23 years old, I am now 51. Started it for hormonal acne break outs but now I also use it to prevent wrinkles. I’ve had no side effects besides the dryness when I first started Tretinoin. I plan to keep using it for as long as I can!
Thank you Dr. Dray for using your expertise and wisdom to interpret these extreme claims. You present information in an easy to understand way. Anytime I have a skin care question or concern-you are the first place I search for answers. I’m grateful for all you do for us. You are a rare, trusted, resource.❤🙏🏻❤️
Lol I'm 25 and started tretinoin 4ish months ago so hearing him start to say that 25 years olds should reconsider usage was quite....something. Scientific clapbacks like this are one of my fav genres of TH-cam videos 😂💜 especially as a scientist myself. Love it! Keep up the great work!
The video from The Honest Channel motivated me to read an detailed study on Pub Med about the effects of vitamin A derivatives including tretinoin in all its formulations. The study actually cited the exact opposite of what the experts claimed on The Honest Channel! In addition the study did not even recommend discontinuation of use when experiencing skin irritation as the study found that skin irritation resolves in two weeks and does not seem to prevent the beneficial effects of the vitamin A derivative. “ The most noteworthy, but unexpected observation in this study was the rapid accommodation of the skin to retinoid side effects occurring within just 2 weeks. “ (quote from study) Interestingly, the study near the bottom of the long detailed article said that a mixture of vitamin c and tretinoin showed even greater benefits. Here is the quote: “Finally, the authors concluded that repeated topical application of a preparation containing both retinol and vitamin C could reverse, at least in part, skin changes induced by both chronological and photoaging.” Unfortunately, I don’t know who manufactures that sort of treatment.
Thank you for debunking this scammers outrageous, false claims! He is selling snake oil and blatantly dismissing science. I was disgusted by the original video when I first saw it and I left a comment letting the channel owner know how wrong it was of her to platform someone like this. So many women probably quit using Tretinoin because of that video and purchased his crappy product instead. Ugh, it angers me!
Thank you for covering this Dr. Dray!!! Their video did scare me a little. I looked up the study but it’s helpful to hear a doctor interpret it. If it’s of any interest to you, would you possibly cover Ivan Galanin’s claims that his cream, Adipeau, is able to reach and restore the facial fat by trickling down the facial hair follicles? He says the hair follicles allow his cream to get past the stratum corneum barrier, provided the cream is not rubbed in, but rather left on skin in a thick layer. Many of us would like to restore facial fat and would be interested in this if it possibly works. But I have major doubts that the hair follicles are the key for topicals to reach the dermis and subcutaneous tissues. Thank you for everything you do to inform us! I’ve learned so much from you!
Thank you for addressing the misinformation in this interview. I was concerned about the dissolving fat with hyluronic acid and Tretinion, and considered changing my routine after watching this. But I could not understand, how hyluronic acid could reach the layer of fat under the skin when applied topically, and then bring tretinion along for the ride to destroy the fat. I am continuing on my tretinion journey.
Thank you Dr. Dray for always taking the time to explain/clarify the endless information (or misinformation) out there! My daughter and I love you and are starting to feel like "skin experts"!! 💞
I'm nearly 60 and have been on tretinoin (along with other prescription medications) for adult-onset severe cystic acne since my early 20s. The only breaks have been during pregnancy and breastfeeding (and I have the pitted scars to show for it). Given how long I've used it, it's a miracle my skin isn't transparent if what this guy is saying is true!
@@marciestoddard730I used the website 'Apostrophe', and it is an online consultation, with your skin issues/concerns, pictures upload and your expectations, then a dermatologist will get back to you about your proposed treatment. Make sure you mention that you read tretinoin may help your skin. Hope this helps.
34 years of use here. No one believes I have grandkids. But my skin is healthy. Do I peel a couple times of year? Yep, and I have the tools and tricks to deal with that.
I saw this video and was so confused and it made me feel like I should be skeptical about Vitamin A products even though it was the only reason I had to do so. Thank you so much for clearing up the BS. The lady on the right who had the least scientific authority seemed to be the only honest person in the room. This was like a live demonstration of how the skin care industry BSes customers. The only thing missing was the introduction of the miracle product that works better than Vitamin A after thoroughly bashing it.
The guy from the video is selling his own antiaging cream. I saw him in another youtube material where he was talking about his antiaging products like those were a revolution in skincare. And his only proofs were his claims that he has experience and his wife used them and had visible results... In the mean time, I'm using the 0.5% tretinoin for 1.5 years, and my pores are almost invisible(I've "lost" the blackheads) and I did not had any breakout in my lower face(before I has 2-3 big red pimples in that zone all the time). Also together with the l-ascorbic acid diy serum(melasma spots
Thank you SO MUCH for making this video Dr. Dray! I am barely starting my Tretinoin journey and I'm on week 3! SUPER IMPORTANT INFO THAT HELPED ME: I started with once a week the first week. Then the second week i used it twice with several days in between. This week (my 3rd week) I am going to try 1 or 2 days in between depending if i don't feel too much dryness. PLEASE USE THE "SANDWICH METHOD" Step 1: I wash my face with Cerave face wash (non foaming) foaming face wash tends to make my skin more dry Step 2: Cerave daily mosturizing lotion (let dry 3-5 min) Step 3: Cerave healing ointment on the sensitive areas around the eyes nose and mouth (let dry 3-5 min) Step 4: IMPORTANT Use only a PEA SIZE of tretinoin (mine is 0.025%) wait another 3-5 min Step 5: another layer of Cerave daily moisturizing lotion to "sandwich" the tretinoin in moisturizer SUNSCREEN! SUNSCREEN! SUNSCREEN! ALWAYS! This Cerave moisturizer says it has 3 essential ceramides and hyalauronic acid but I have not had any burning or dryness like he mentions in the video. I really hope this helps! I am about to go checkout your video for short contact therapy as you mentioned at the end of the video. Thank you again Dr. Dray! Please let me know if I am doing something i shouldn't be doing🙏💗
That’s pretty much my plan after using Adapalene daily for a year . Now going to Tretinoin 0.05% . I will use the new cerave cleansing oil then moisturizer and cerave healing ointment around eyes , lips and nose then Tretinoin . Slow and easy .
Perfect timing, I saw this interview 2 days ago and it raised concerns since I'm about to start tretinoin. Before that, I did read literature and studies on tretinoin, so I was confused at first, and then highly skeptical when I heard his interview, especially when I understood that he was in fact promoting his "fat-restoring cream". There is another video of him talking about facial fat volume loss (again, to promote his cream) with statements about what causes facial fat loss, like intensity training or dynamic movement of the face with no actual studies to back up what he said. The bottom line is, what any good his fat-restoring cream does (if it works) if your skin cannot hold tight because of the lack of collagen?... On the other hand, Tretinoin is clearly promoting collagen production in the skin.
Dr. Dray - you are comedic gold without even trying to be!!! I love your analysis of the information and studies to explain the usage - it is unethical to misuse information, especially as it is related to a topic that many are very sensitive about ... at the end of the day, let the buyer beware in all aspects if life.
I was an avid tanner in the 90s all year around. I suffered a skin cancer removed and major skin damage. This was at 25 i stopped all sun, became bestfriends with sunscreen and got on tretinoin. Now im 40 yrs old. Ive been on tret continuously for 15 yrs no breaks. I have thick, plump, even toned wrinkle free skin. I get compliments all the time on my skin and not looking my age. I tribute it all to tret. I will use it until my last days, maybe throw a tube in my casket for the afterlife. Thats how much i love it.
Good for you! 🎉 I was the same way in the 89's and am going to start using tretinoin, hopefully I can get close to as good as you!! I LOVE sunscreen, my absolute favorite is Australian Gold mineral lotion, so smooth and provides EXCELLENT prte8!! 😊
I have been using tretnoin for a year now. I feel like my skin is tight, i can't smile, laugh. Everytime i smile i get wrinkles on face. What am i doing wrong? Also i can only use gel moisturizers as i have acne prone skin. Please help.
@@ishaje0look into ceramides and peptides.
@@ishaje0 tret is supposed to treat acne ?
@@alisonmercer5946 yep have used it for treating acne and for getting rid of fine lines.
If this guy was right about the fat loss, then I think we’d all be spreading it on our butts and thighs.
Not my butt; my gut though… hell yes 🤣
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AMEN!!! too funny, your comment made me laugh out loud
🤣🤣🤣 thank you for the chuckle!❤️
But we are. Aestetician and advanced pharmacy school teachs us to use retinol as active ingredient against fat. Retinol and cafeine are very effective at it.
I hate 'experts' like these. Thanks Dr. Dray for calling out the misinformation in this video.
Thanks for watching
Right. There's always a couple "experts" that try to make a name for themselves by intentionally spreading misinformation, usually along the lines of "I discovered secret information the medical community is hiding from you!"
No doubt he probably has a product of his own that's miraculously a "cure" for the particular ailment he claims to be an expert on. Or selling a book, podcast, something. There's usually always a financial motive for this behavior.
We always have to be sure to look into these sorts of things on our own, too. Never take bold claims at face value. I appreciate you, too, Dr. Dray!
Where's the education and/or expert knowledge supporting the title, "Scientist"? According to a 2012 press release the "Scientist", "has an undergraduate degree in German History from Yale University and a Master’s of Science in Corporate Finance from Carnegie Mellon University."
Funny that he reads out the 'proof' and never shows the proof. Not even linking it!
This should not be about love or hate. We should be able to have an open discussion without being "hated."
As someone who is on tretinoin I am sooooo glad I sat through probably the longest TH-cam video I have ever sat to involving a person speaking. The way you dissolved the medical misinformation was just so top tier and we so need more of that!!!!!
Thank you!!! After a month of adjustment hell I was so scared it was for nothing but at the 2 month mark I’m starting to see the benefits.
can you give us an update ?
It took me over 6 months to start seeing a difference in my skin using tretinoin. I’ve been using it for a little over one year now & my skin is in the best shape it’s ever been in. In fact, I just got a new prescription for a stronger dose & I’m going through the peeling stages again. I call it having dandruff on my face because it’s constantly shedding. I know this shedding will only last a couple weeks, at tops, so I’m OK with it.
Please don’t throw in the towel too soon. It really does take quite a while before you see results.
I've been using Retin-A for 15 years and my skin is great! Thank you for making this video. I'm so sick of people trying to scare us about every damn thing!
Have you gotten sunken eyes?
@@davidgrossman8830 I did notice about 6 years ago that I was getting a little bit of a sunken look, but I got a bit of filler on my tear trough and it fixed it. Haven’t had to get it again.
Exactly… and NO.. no sunken eyes
This is not news. This was what the experts talked about decades ago.. Also look up finite cell turnover with retin A.
I wish people scared me off this crap
Tretinoin improved my skin quickly. I had to back off this winter because of excess dryness, but I didn't stop using it, I just decreased the frequency and added a better moisturizer. Thanks, Dr. Dray.
Thanks for watching
If you don't mind me asking what moisturizer do you use is there a healthy safe moisturizer out there ?
@@loriburkett5692 For me the Cerave moisturiser in the jar (with ceramides) and The Ordinary Squalane oil helped a lot with my winter dry and Tretinoin peeling skin :)
Aquaphor is the best for tackling dryness from tretinoin I'm the same in winter I just use 8t 5 days a week and plaster on Aquaphor then break for the weekends
I hope you don’t mind me chiming in here…IUNIK beta-glucan moisturizer has been working great for my dry skin the last few months, along with their serum.
I missed this controversy the first time around and just watched the two Honest Channel videos and wow, he really thought thinning down elastosis is a bad thing! 🤦🏻♀ In the second video he says there's no evidence of elastosis, right after the word "elastosis" in the paper was on screen a few minutes earlier. Then he starts equating procollagen with collagen. So much for his "on-the-job scientific training"...
I started using tretinoin when I was 49, I am now 54. My skin looks so much better than it did when I was 49. No thinning of my skin. No loss of elasticity. My sunspots have disappeared or lessened. This guy is crazy.
He’s trying to make people feel fear on using tetrinoin so people but his product 😬
@@carla3693 exactly
Skincare grifter 😂😂😂 he doesn’t even seem confident in his points. She flamed him 🤡
@@coast2coast8306 to be fair he not even a doctor he has a certification on business
@@Style_224 I don’t see your point, he’s still a skincare grifter but ok 👍🏽 influencing others (with non facts) for his own monetary gain. The interviewer even stated that if she notices negative aesthetics because of his advice she’s coming for him. He successfully influenced her. So…yeah….
My dad used retin A throughout his 70s and 80s. He would get so many compliments on how baby smooth his skin looked. I started using it about 8-9 months ago, and initially my melasma looked worse and skin looked very dry and irritated, but I think now with greater tolerance it’s starting to get better.
The first week,my skin got really dry and started peeling. After it peeled it felt tight and smooth. No more fine lines!
I have melasma, too. Mine did worsen for a bit at the start, but it is now lighter than ever. Sunscreen Sunscreen Sunscreen!
I’m using a retinal product right now - my skin just feels so dry right now. ☹️ What did you use to help with the dryness and irritation?
@rachelh9550 putting on moisture before can help. I use aquaphor on top at night, but this seems to help some people and irritate others. I've had success with snail mucin, centella asiatica, and hyaluronic acid serums, too. A daytime moisturizer with urea could also help. The one from Eucerin is nice and pretty inexpensive. I don't really have much dryness from it anymore, so hopefully, yours will be temporary, too.
@@rachelh9550 If your skin is too dry, skip a day or two and use gentle products. I highly recommend La Roche Posay Hydrating Gentle Cleanser. And then Beauty pie’s Happy Face moisturizer. I also like their Plantastic moisture balm. And if it’s super dry add a tiny bit of Vaseline petroleum jelly on top of your moisturizer.
I started Retin-A way back when it was only prescribed for acne. I was in my early 20s with chronic adult acne and I will soon turn 71 and have continued with prescription trentinoin all these years, even after the acne phase stopped. My skin is in great shape and I am often complemented on it and have very few wrinkles.
Were you also using daily sunscreen or just tretinoin?
My experience exactly!
@@morgianasartre6709 i also use tretinoin. My dermatologist has sworn me to use sunscreen during the day, every day. She said that even if a use it at night, the components are still in effect during the day so its very important to use sunscreen
@@poutsablue2346 That's why I'm curious if the person used tretinoin with sunscreen of just tret alone.
How is your bone structure with age any aggrevated resorbtion?
Okay I JUST watched this a couple weeks ago and have been dying to know what Dr. Dray would say about it. I thought it was just some obscure video that she wouldn't hear about though. Wild.
Thank you so much for covering this 🥰
Thanks for watching
You are like a boon...you have played and important role in easing my struggle with cystic acne and yet again I was looking for clarity regarding this particular claim and here you are with your view on it.
I trust you 🤗
Thanks for watching
Exactly
I’m so tired of people picking out information that they like and ignoring the rest, as if there isn’t a larger picture with all of the data! Thanks for clarifying this for us!
I've been using Retin A for about 8 years and it's made a huge difference to the condition of my skin. In addition to my face I also put it on my upper back as far as I can reach over my shoulder (for spots) and my husband commented that he could see a marked difference in sun spots between the upper part of my back and the lower; the lower having far more marks as I had not applied Retin A. My skin in now smooth and clear and I should add that I now only use Mineral sun screens and moisturisers without perfume (thanks to Dr. Dray's postings) as my skin is slightly more sensitive. It's a game changer!
I've been doing that too, I have a lot of sun discolouration there and I use it on the back of my hands too
I’ve been using Retin A since I was 36. If you compare my skin to women my age (58) who don’t use Retin A, my skin looks about 20 years younger than them. No comparison. When people ask me what I do for my skincare, I tell them Retin A is the gold standard. When I’ve had other treatments dermatologists always comment on the thickness of my skin.
I’ve been on 1% tret for 10 years. No fat loss in face for me and my skin is amazing at 48. No static wrinkles
0.1%?
my report is purely anecdotal but in the 2 yrs i’ve been using tretinoin, my face skin feels very robust, plump, healthy and the tone much more even than before i started. i say this, however, in relation to the COMPREHENSIVE skin care routine i have been following, which includes hyaluronic acid, ceramides, anti oxidant ingredients and of course consistent SPF.
thanks so much for your input Dr. Dray, i definitely trust your word on all things skincare. happy thursday 🌸
The thinning was noted after 4 yrs of usage in 65% of participants
@@elizabethr4107 this confuses me... where does it say?
This is why Dr. Dray is my favorite. I LOVE research and I have so much respect for how she breaks down studies and data in digestible ways that we can understand without compromising the integrity of the research or science overall.
It really does take someone special to be able to accurately read and interpret data from studies and be able to communicate it in a way that makes sense to people outside of the research community; we're very lucky to have you Dr. Dray
Yup, I'm only recently realizing that with all that has been going on since 2020. It's quite interesting to see how many people don't seem to know how to accurately analyze and interpret data and to understand how to translate it into context. Scary thing is SOOO many people are using data to make decisions and they are not interpreting them properly. We it in so many industries, not just the beauty one. You big corporations making MASSIVE financial decisions from raw data that they aren't considering the context of or applying any common sense to. It's strange.
with patience and grace nonetheless!
This is hilarious. Most of the world have become scientific experts with COVID *shrug*
If you do a a little search and read couple trial papers and package inserts, you will see that Dr. Dray is wrong on this one.
@@catcutable which trials? How can I find this?
Tretinoin has completely transformed my skin! So much that I've pretty much eliminated foundation from my makeup routine because I. Just. Don't. Need. It🙌🏼💯
Me too
This is a really good example of the importance of source criticism and reminder to check people's academic credentials rather than just listening to people who "look" like a doctor and sound compelling. Thank you for sharing your great qualified knowledge with us Andréa!
It doesn’t. I have used it over 40 years and the first thing anyone says to me is, you have beautiful skin. These are people who have known me over 15 years and haven’t seen me for a few years. I started using it at 20. It came from Europe and I don’t go in the Sun. I should have said people recognize my skin isn’t aging at the same rate as their own. It’s not like getting a face lift and losing your uniqueness it really helps you age beautifully. I also exercise and keep my weight in check.
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So happy to have you on youtube Dr Dray ❤️
Thanks for watching!
Also saw this a couple weeks ago and literally thought, I need Dr. Dray's input on this!
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I’ve used Retin A for decades and have had no issues. I constantly get compliments on my skin and compared to my friends who have not used there is a significant difference in pore size, wrinkles and general health of the skin. Best thing I ever used along with sunscreen to keep my skin looking good even at 71!!
I started following you fairly recently and have been so impressed with you. What I absolutely love about what you share is your calm, to the point and clear breakdown of the science of how skin works, how it behaves and how the chemistry works. That you back up your statements with stable data, scientific studies and professional experience. This video is exceptional in that you lay out how to listen to alarmist drivel and pick it apart with stable scientific data. The skin care industry and it's lackey wackos are making billions presenting false and misleading (sometimes dangerous) information. Brava to you Dr. Dray for being the sane, educated sage that you are. I recommend you to everyone!
I am so grateful that you made this video. I watched the previous one and then tried to do my own research but didn't find the info he spoke about and wondered if I was looking at the wrong sources. I truly appreciate having your expertise to clarify the information. I trust your approach due to the quality of your analysis of scientific literature as well as utilization of critical thinking. Thank you again.
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Yes, I saw that. He is selling a cream and wants the millions of tretinoin users to switch to his product. Even so, I did see the video a couple of weeks ago and was a little unsettled by it. Thank you so much for your reassuring response. I have followed you for several years and trust you to present good, relevant studies to fully back what you say. Love you Dr Dray xx
I was considering buying his cream but his claims seem so far fetched that it restores fat
I think his product looks interesting and would try it but his marketing is shady. Surely if the product is as good as he claims results would speak for themselves and there'd be no need to run down other products.
Actually the effect of his cream has NOTHING to do with the effect of retinol. His cream promises restoring fat underneath skin while retinoides trreat wrinkles, acne and skin resistence.
So it doesn't make much sense to say his rosting retinoides to promotd his stuff, they could perfectly be used together.
@Valeria Gopaul Exactly. People don't even think about how the diligent sunscreen use and sun avoidence necessary to use retinoides may be a fsctor involved in the reported anti aging effects.
I’ve been using the cream since September. I love it, it’s improved the fat loss around my mouth. Didn’t do much for the eye area but nasal labial folds, marionette lines greatly reduced and lips a lot plumper, especially the top border.
I have been using Retin-A for 40 years, and I can assure you it works! Lol... Every time I hear people doubt it I just laughed to myself. I have a 31-year-old daughter and we are routinely confused as sisters everywhere we go. It's just a fact. So all you younger women out there believe me and trust me get your butt on tretinoin and use it regularly you will thank yourself down the road! Oh and I am going to add, everything that Dr Dray says about sunscreen is absolutely true as well! I have been using sunscreen regularly since I was 11 years old. And yes I actually apply it two to three times a day! That is one of the most important things, keep your face out of the sun! And the rest of your body as well, your legs may look great tan when you're 25 but when your past 40 that won't be the case anymore! Besides there's always self tanners and if you have nice smooth skin when you're older it's the perfect canvas for self-tanners! 😃
does it give you smooth cheeks lol ...... sorry could not resist that, , totally agree about spf wish I had all this info decades ago x
@@jennybolter1102 LOL, I guess I could have chosen a better expression🤣😂
unfortuantely here in germany the doctors dont prescribe it soley for cosmetic reasons, only if you have hardcore acne ..so i guess i am stuck to retinol...i hope it will help thoug as well:)
May I ask why you wore sunscreen regularly in the early 80s? The effects of UVA rays on aging haven't been studied as extensively back then and all sunscreens available at that time were not broad spectrum (only formulated to protect against UVB rays). The only FDA approved chemical UVA filter Avobenzone hasn't been approved until 1988 and mineral sunscreens have not been anywhwere near cosmetically elegant at that time and nobody would have worn it daily. So what was the point?
@@crystalclear7512 wrong, number one I'm very fair skin blue-eyed and we live in Southern California and moving here from Michigan when I was nine. We regularly bought a sunscreen called Ti-screen, and it was one of the few sunscreens that had Avobenzone. It was very well known about sunscreen usage in the '80s lol I don't know where you're getting that information from! The problem was the lack of available sunscreens that protected against UVA which is why we bought the Ti-screen because it was the only one that was face-friendly and had the avobenzone in it. I used that particular sunscreen for quite a few years until they started coming out with better ones. Living in Southern California and going to the beach as a blonde blue-eyed white girl and not wanting to get fried, believe me sunscreen was a very important thing in our household! The only problem was being called Casper and white girl! Lol funny though I never gave into peer pressure and did not allow myself to tan. Smart move that I don't regret.
I’m so glad I found your response video. I listened that other video and got so worried about it that I was ready to change my way of using tretinoin to three times a week. I’ve been using it since I was 39 now I’m 60 and have seen the long term results. People do not believe I’m 60. Basically I use it every night.1% concentration.
During the day I use a hyaluronic acidic serum, a moisturizer and sunscreen. Never, never leave without sunscreen.
Thank you Dr. Dray for clearing up these nonsense that have been pretty intimidating. I love how you base your arguments on data and research, such a queen ❤
Dr Dray proves once again she is the absolute business, such a knowledgeable woman!!
Tret 0.25 did nothing for my skin personally. Derm bumped me to Tazorac 0.1% and it’s been tremendous so far. Currently 4 weeks in. Can tolerate up to 5x a week. Has especially helped with my sebum overproduction. Skin is baby smooth. Optimistic about long term use. Retinoids are the way.
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do you mean 0.025?
❤same here .. 0.025 dint do much for me but 0.05 did wonders 🎉
@@ChocolateMuffin308 yes haha
I’m currently starting with 0.025 and it’s enough for me to notice a difference. I didn’t want to just launch in to a higher dosage. I am using the Menarini brand.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU! I think every one of your subscribers probably had this show up in our feeds. Even when I was trying to go to sleep last night, I was thinking about that video. Thank you for being the voice of reason and thank you for how you value our trust in your expertise. I feel like, as a subscriber for many years, I can count on you to bring us correct information because your own integrity is important to you. And as I get older, I ponder the the things and people for which I’m truly grateful. You, Dr. Dray, are a blessing!
SOOOOOO GLAD that she took this up! i was expecting a bombardment of questions from our shared viewers....now i just need to point them to her video. thank you for your hard work!
I’ve been using prescription tretinoin for over 6 years. How I knew it was really working is when a very prominent scar on my forehead starting smoothing out. I was in an automobile accident when I was 14 and hit the windshield so hard it pulled out a chunk of my hair and several layers of skin. It’s ALWAYS been a weird and bumpy square patch for my entire life. It is as smooth as the rest of my skin now.
I’m also 55 and no one ever believes that is my age. I started when I was 49 with pretty decent skin to begin with. But this has been a game changer. I have never experienced any adverse reactions and I also have sensitive skin.
I can definitely tell just by glancing at your videos! It's incredible what it can do for the skin. If you watch the original video that Dr. Dray was responding to, this guy is OF COURSE selling a face cream. Add in fear-mongering, and his goal is to get people to buy his product instead.
I was burnt by boiling water on my face and the tret smoothed out the scars, they're not really noticeable at all now.
I'm never stopping my Retin-A. My skin looks so perfectly even and I don't get much acne anymore. People ask me what I use and I say, tretinoin...and sunscreen, of course!
How many times a week you use ?
Omg I was just stressing over this video!! I contemplated not even starting trentonin because of it, thank you for putting this video out!!! 🙏💖
Thanks for watching
Me too!! I commented on this video 😝
A good rule of thumb is asking a dermatologist, I've been using Trentinoin for 30 years, just make sure you wear sunscreen every day
I have used tretinoin regularly now for 5 years, along with daily SPF. I started at 0.05% and now use 0.08%. It has cleared most of my hyperpigmentation, and my skin is more even toned and plump. The biggest difference I have seen is with my pores. I have sebaceous filaments and the tretinoin keeps my pores clear and unclogged. It has been a game changer for me. Thanks for presenting a clearer picture of the information being circulated out there..that’s why I’m here!
Thank you, Dr. Dray. I'm so tired of people who can't even properly interpret the data going around spreading their nonsense with such an air of authority.
I had fat loss due to my age before I started using Retin-A. Since I've been using it (combined with a consistent skincare and sunscreen), my skin is beautiful and smooth, and it removed an actinic keratosis on my forehead too. Thank you, Dr. Dray, for addressing this.
@Flower Girl I haven't started yet, I am 64 years old and my acne is back. Please would you share with me your routine, strength, and how long you have been using retin-a? I sure would like your results even though I am so late in getting started. Thank you!
@@TheRuthyc I use Curology, which you can get online. They will do an analysis of your skin and recommend a formula for you. I've been very happy with the results. My formula includes Retin-A and a couple of other ingredients to address other issues that I have. Best of luck to you!
I appreciate how you are able to stay so calm and professional in the face of blatant misinformation.
Happy Thursday, Doc, and thank you for this response video!!
I have been using tretinoin, consistently, for decades. My dermatologist started me on it, when I was in my 20's, to help with my cystic acne. I battled acne until my late 30's and I continue to use tretinoin NIGHTLY. I now use it for fine lines/wrinkles/sun damage. I will be 50 in 2 weeks time and I cannot tell you how many times I receive compliments on my skin. I have no doubt that tretinoin, combined with my other skincare/sunscreen habits, is the reason my skin looks so incredible at my age. These fear mongers need to chill! 💯
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I truly believe that some “dermatologist” are afraid that if more people discover what tretinoin can do,they will lose their patients,so they feel the need to say all this ridiculous bullshit about tret🫠🤷🏻♀️
I started using tretinoin 34 years ago. I just turned 48. Like you, coupled with SPF use/skincare my skin looks incredible at my age. Learning about this gentleman's background makes me question the purpose of the original video. Happy Birthday!
@@nadiasspace548 none of the people in this video (besides dr dray) we’re derms
This video truly solidified why you are brilliant - a true critical thinker, and a fine scholar. Thank you for you brilliance, Dr Dray.
You tell them the FACTS, Dr. Dray. It's clear you have nothing to promote other than the FACTS. Great job, wish this were a live debate. After you finished you'd have to have done a 🎤 drop
I just got out of a facial from a new esthetician, and when I told her that I have been using retinol for 5 years, she told me all about skin thinning and how it ages you and how it dries my skin out artificially (how is it much different from a clay mask then?) and it’s the worst thing for my skin. She tried for the full 2 hours (I was scheduled tor 1 hr but she wouldn’t stop talking) to get me off the retinol. That’s what led me here. She also made a lot of points that made her sound like a snake-oil salesman. Thank you for this video, I know I won’t be going back to her.
i'm also a doctor and I should say kudos to Dr. Dray for being so calm and composed with this reaction video. i mean, just watching it from here, i can't help with my "WTF" and "HUUUUH" and some little eyerolls and exasperated laughs hahaha I can't.
Thank you so much Dr. Dray for being the calm and composed voice of derm science. 👑
Doctor Bluestardiver, would love to hear your thoughts about the Bhawan paper? Upper dermis thickness reduced by 65% after 4 years. Melanin content reduced by 81%. Please explain how these effects are beneficial to the skin. Dr. Dray hasn't. It will take more that "they didn't say that" or "WTF" to change the facts.
There seems to be a lot of weird science targeting the beauty industry these days.
Thank you for commenting
Calm and composed? She was extremely arrogant and Ivan posted a reply on the same video of the Honest channel rebutting her and showing her cherry picked data points.
Why would she not be calm and composed? You seem weird
I have read the research as a physician and am an avid user of Retin-A. I'm completely with you Dr. Dray.
I've used Retin-A for (oh gosh) 40 years. I have had zero issues with it and my skin looks like I'm 20 years younger than I am. I stand by this as the SINGLE best thing I have ever purchased to improve my skin (that - and sunscreen).
Yay 😊
same 💯 been in 1% 8+ years
I can guarantee you do not look 20 at 40 years old, you might have good skin but you would still look older than that
I was literally just about to write a comment asking if its okay for long term use. I've been using for a little over two years, and I use it every night. I wear sunscreen every day and don't go out in the sun much. I was planning on using it forever, as long as my doctor keep prescribing it.
What brand do you use love?
I started with Tretinoin a few years ago using 0.05%. Prior to that, I used retinol creams. I now juggle between both types. I’ve never had a side effect, except maybe for some slight dryness or flaky skin. Sometimes I’ll use a very light serum or moisturizer under the Tretinoin if I’m feeling sensitive. I also don’t use it every day and alternate with things like Vitamin C or Glycolic acid. It has always seemed safe and effective to me. Thanks for this video.
Thanks Dr Dray 🙏
I’ve been using Retin A for 12 years everyday and my skin looks amazing! At 47 I am wrinkle free, I have plump, even and very clear skin. No thinning and no issues whatsoever. Just remember to be sun safe - always and be diligent with sunscreen.
Sending love from Australia!
❤️ 💕 ❤️ 💕♥️💕♥️💕♥️
Totally curious- have you used Botox as well? Or has tretinoin alone been helpful for omitting wrinkles? I started about 6 months ago :)
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@@xoalex15 botox makes people look puffy and creepy, don't do it stay natural
Hi
I get eye irritation and prominent crows feet .Although i dont apply around eyes.Are there any tips for that
Thank you for reviewing this interview. It helps to understand the information correctly.
Thanks for watching
I know tretinoin works on texture and fine lines. I have been using it for a year now and can clearly see the results on my own face. It works!! Thank you, Dr Dray 🙂 God bless.
Thanks for watching
Does it have to be prescribed? Do you ask your pcp or have to go to dermatologist?
@@dianafox7188 sometimes your Medical dr will prescribe it but typically it is through your Dermatologists so they can keep an eye on you. I hope this helps you
@@debrakirkley4590 thank you!!😊
@@dianafox7188 You're most welcome.
I soooooo appreciate that you are courageous and ethical to make vids like this esp with "colleagues" who give false info.
So many people look at scientific studies incorrectly or take bad studies as absolute truth. Thank you for talking about looking at a study critically and representing it properly!!
Misinformation is dangerous and so prominent in this day and age. I have been using retinol for 2-3yrs and it has transformed my skin. I just turned 30. My skin looks more plump, firm, and even. I personally love it. Thank you so much Dr. Dray for providing your medical expertise and debunking the sea of 🤡🤡🤡🤡 .
what percentage do you use?
I'm counting down the days until I can finally start Tretinoin, once I'm done breastfeeding! 🥲 I've since found "Bakuchiol" which apparently is a plant retinol alternative & safe for bf! It's doing alright, def makes a difference, but I wanna bring out the big Tretinoin guns! 💪😂
@@JaseekaRawr it’s not a retinol alternative. I believe it’s an antioxidant. Dr dray has videos on bakuchiol
@@JaseekaRawr bakuchiol is not a alternative to retinol just like how willow bark extract is a not a alternative to salicylic acid it just a antioxidant
@@JaseekaRawr hahaha tretinoin is definitely a game changer!
Hi I actually follow the honest channel and watched that video, afterwards I went straight to your videos regarding tretinoan and after listening to you I continued to use my tretinoan, iv seen such good results there's no way I'm stopping it. Thank you for giving us your professional opinion xxx
Dr Dray brings THE TRUTH HAMMER to the party. YES!
I love the way Dr Dray debunks the common myths of skincare - straightforward, assertive, and to the point with a wealth of knowledge.
I did see the featured video discussion earlier, and found it a bit confusing.
I'm so happy that Dr. Dray made a reaction video like this. This is the kind of content that makes me respect her personality and her professionalism.
THANK YOU !!!!! You confirm my Knowledge of Retin-A and all I learned from YOU! I’ve been using Retin A now on and off for 30 years! I was very distraught by this video I watched it two weeks ago.
Thanks for watching
So was I !
I am so thankful for you doing this response video. Thanks for all the hard work you do for us. I imagine it's exhausting having to come out with these videos to combat all the misinformation people spread. Thank you for keeping the record straight for us all.
Sounds like a sales pitch to me. You are so necessary to help us debunk the miss information
on youtube ❤
It is ! He's selling a face cream. I seen another video of his where he said he discovered skincare because he used his wife's face cream and realized it made his skin softer and he thought "why aren't women aware of face cream?" Or something like that, like because he used his wife's face cream he seemed to think he was the first person to ever discover face cream ? It was odd. Everytime he talks he seems to be coming from the idea that women, his audience, could not possibly know anything at all about skincare already on our own. I feel like he views us as clueless babies that he's trying to teach about the concept of face cream , from the other video I seen of his trying to sell his face cream
@@Ella-kn9qd 😂
@@Ella-kn9qd dude he only like that because the majority of the demographic of men only view skin care for woman only 😂
@@Ella-kn9qd lol
Like a boss, Dr. Dray crushes the non-MD, PhD crowd with excellent citations and the ability to accurately interpret data. Subscribed!👍
I really appreciate how you broke this down & allowed their entire comments to play out. Please keep exposing this misinformation & disinformation! Silence 'em with FACTS. I think it'd be awesome if you and Michelle (from LabMuffinBeauty) did a collab reacting to more stuff like this.
21:50 Very well done stating the fact that, this anology may not necessarily be completely accurate. I know for a fact, retinoid acid receptors tend to get down regulated with use anyway with use - meaning, you are not constantly "forcing" your skin to "work out without rest" even if you want to. Not to mention there will be a theoretical receptor saturation eventually with continued use (hence the higher strengths are not necessarily better). I think all in all, such "response" videos by Andrea are the moments when we tend to see her PhD site as she is an MD-PhD essentially and not always but mostly, PhDs tend to, by the virtue of the entire training is aimed to make you a scientist with critical reasoning skills, better analyse the outcomes of different bodies of research.
Like beta blockers provoke up regulation (of B- receptors, in the heart).
Thanks Dr Dray for being the voice of reason!
I love evidence based arguments. Thank you Dr Dray, you’re a breath of fresh air 🖤
Dr Dray, you’re so well spoken and educated. Your ability to correct faulty statements is so impressive. You are such a baddie! I’m simping 🤣
I responded to this video a week ago - I was shook because I’ve been using tretinoin for 15 years and at 56 I get asked consistently by strangers - what do I do with my skin. I feel my cheeks are still full and my skin very smooth and clear. I’m so relieved to see your video Dr Drey - thank you !! 🙏🏽💕
You were shaken
Your skin does look nice. I'm sold lol
I had watched the video but thought all the Derms I follow on TH-cam and IG can't be wrong. I'm so glad you did this reaction video as I was really disappointed that the Dr on the video didn't do a better job at debunking his statements/theories. If Tretinoin caused fat loss then people would be lined up to get Costco sized barrels of it to apply to their entire body.
Thank you dr.dray for once again clarifying more misinformation being put out to the masses.
Please make a response to theHonestChannel's red light therapy video! I really hate misinformation and it's difficult for just regular people to figure out who and what to trust, so I appreciate you really giving us the facts with scientific proof to back it up.
Thank you for addressing this. I had seen the video that you commented on but also saw a video last year which was an interview with the CEO and co founder of OneSkin. She said that they found an increase in inflammatory markers on the lab grown skin using retinoic acid (mentioned IL 6 and IL 8 I believe as examples). She seemed to conclude that what they saw in the lab did not support retinoic acid as being anti aging. She also said that you exhaust the tissue because there are only so many stem cells to turn over. She stopped using it based on theirs findings. It’s all so confusing!!
This was the video. Around 8 minutes in.
th-cam.com/video/yN89DFLIab0/w-d-xo.html
she's wrong, so there's that
I remember seeing this video and immediately disregarding it because I had already informed myself through your videos that there is only studies supporting the fact that it does not thin and in fact does the opposite lol
The queen has spoken! With data-backed info & common sense as always. Thank you for your continued work in the space, Andrea!
I’ve been using Tretinoin since I was 23 years old, I am now 51. Started it for hormonal acne break outs but now I also use it to prevent wrinkles. I’ve had no side effects besides the dryness when I first started Tretinoin. I plan to keep using it for as long as I can!
From what I can see on your profile picture your skin looks great. Just strated using retinol😊
What brand do you use, love?
Exactly 💯
@@lesliegrace5986 the brand is Perrigo,
Thank you Dr. Dray for using your expertise and wisdom to interpret these extreme claims. You present information in an easy to understand way. Anytime I have a skin care question or concern-you are the first place I search for answers. I’m grateful for all you do for us. You are a rare, trusted, resource.❤🙏🏻❤️
I love this video! I am sick of fear-mongers who don't understand what they are talking about. You would make a great expert witness.
I love being able to come here for unfiltered truth and clarity. Thank you for this!
I knew our Dr. Dray will not let this pass. When I was initially watching this I was like, "Oh wait 'till dr dray sees this!"
Thanks Doc!
Lol I'm 25 and started tretinoin 4ish months ago so hearing him start to say that 25 years olds should reconsider usage was quite....something. Scientific clapbacks like this are one of my fav genres of TH-cam videos 😂💜 especially as a scientist myself. Love it! Keep up the great work!
Thanks for watching
@@darkviolet69 um its TH-cam 💀
@@darkviolet69 touch grass
@@darkviolet69 you tried it
@@darkviolet69 they are just being human like it's normal
The video from The Honest Channel motivated me to read an detailed study on Pub Med about the effects of vitamin A derivatives including tretinoin in all its formulations. The study actually cited the exact opposite of what the experts claimed on The Honest Channel! In addition the study did not even recommend discontinuation of use when experiencing skin irritation as the study found that skin irritation resolves in two weeks and does not seem to prevent the beneficial effects of the vitamin A derivative. “ The most noteworthy, but unexpected observation in this study was the rapid accommodation of the skin to retinoid side effects occurring within just 2 weeks. “ (quote from study) Interestingly, the study near the bottom of the long detailed article said that a mixture of vitamin c and tretinoin showed even greater benefits. Here is the quote: “Finally, the authors concluded that repeated topical application of a preparation containing both retinol and vitamin C could reverse, at least in part, skin changes induced by both chronological and photoaging.” Unfortunately, I don’t know who manufactures that sort of treatment.
mild irritation or redness is fine and not a reason to stop. Just keep up the moisturiser.
@jennym4127
Buy vitamin C serum (I like The Ordinary,) and use it along with retanoids/retanol. And refrigerate it. ❤️💐😊
I'm always skeptical of people who try to talk really fast to convince people of their prowess and knowledge. Thanks for fact checking this dude.
Thank you for debunking this scammers outrageous, false claims! He is selling snake oil and blatantly dismissing science. I was disgusted by the original video when I first saw it and I left a comment letting the channel owner know how wrong it was of her to platform someone like this. So many women probably quit using Tretinoin because of that video and purchased his crappy product instead. Ugh, it angers me!
Thank you for covering this Dr. Dray!!! Their video did scare me a little. I looked up the study but it’s helpful to hear a doctor interpret it.
If it’s of any interest to you, would you possibly cover Ivan Galanin’s claims that his cream, Adipeau, is able to reach and restore the facial fat by trickling down the facial hair follicles? He says the hair follicles allow his cream to get past the stratum corneum barrier, provided the cream is not rubbed in, but rather left on skin in a thick layer.
Many of us would like to restore facial fat and would be interested in this if it possibly works. But I have major doubts that the hair follicles are the key for topicals to reach the dermis and subcutaneous tissues.
Thank you for everything you do to inform us! I’ve learned so much from you!
Why would you believe anything he says and sells after this?
Thank you for addressing the misinformation in this interview. I was concerned about the dissolving fat with hyluronic acid and Tretinion, and considered changing my routine after watching this. But I could not understand, how hyluronic acid could reach the layer of fat under the skin when applied topically, and then bring tretinion along for the ride to destroy the fat. I am continuing on my tretinion journey.
Dr. Dray, you are a role model for fact-based skincare content. I'm a PhD student, and I find your videos very critical and informative.
And this is why I love Dr.Dray. She knows what she's talking about. She always supports her words with studies and evidence, articles etc.
Thank you Dr. Dray for always taking the time to explain/clarify the endless information (or misinformation) out there! My daughter and I love you and are starting to feel like "skin experts"!! 💞
You go girl !! This is why I love and follow your channel !
Thanks for watching
Thank you for debunking this, I hope the maker of the video sees this
Thanks for watching
He's in these comments i replied to him.
I hope honest channel replied too
I would pay money to see Dr Dray and this guy face off on a live debate 😆
I'm nearly 60 and have been on tretinoin (along with other prescription medications) for adult-onset severe cystic acne since my early 20s. The only breaks have been during pregnancy and breastfeeding (and I have the pitted scars to show for it). Given how long I've used it, it's a miracle my skin isn't transparent if what this guy is saying is true!
the people who have been using it for 40 years look 20 years younger than their peers
Me too.
where are all yall ordering your tretinoin from? i need the .1% and can't find it anywhere. i dont want to go to dr due to costs.
@@marciestoddard730I used the website 'Apostrophe', and it is an online consultation, with your skin issues/concerns, pictures upload and your expectations, then a dermatologist will get back to you about your proposed treatment. Make sure you mention that you read tretinoin may help your skin. Hope this helps.
34 years of use here. No one believes I have grandkids. But my skin is healthy. Do I peel a couple times of year? Yep, and I have the tools and tricks to deal with that.
I saw this video and was so confused and it made me feel like I should be skeptical about Vitamin A products even though it was the only reason I had to do so. Thank you so much for clearing up the BS. The lady on the right who had the least scientific authority seemed to be the only honest person in the room. This was like a live demonstration of how the skin care industry BSes customers. The only thing missing was the introduction of the miracle product that works better than Vitamin A after thoroughly bashing it.
He would sell you his product-lol!
The interviewer on the right had this gentleman on the left on her channel previously to promote his skincare line. 🙄
The guy from the video is selling his own antiaging cream. I saw him in another youtube material where he was talking about his antiaging products like those were a revolution in skincare. And his only proofs were his claims that he has experience and his wife used them and had visible results...
In the mean time, I'm using the 0.5% tretinoin for 1.5 years, and my pores are almost invisible(I've "lost" the blackheads) and I did not had any breakout in my lower face(before I has 2-3 big red pimples in that zone all the time).
Also together with the l-ascorbic acid diy serum(melasma spots
The lady on the right screen has beautiful skin.
Well she is using tretinoin 😂
Holding people accountable, more people in all professions need to do this to people spreading misinformation.
Thank you SO MUCH for making this video Dr. Dray! I am barely starting my Tretinoin journey and I'm on week 3!
SUPER IMPORTANT INFO THAT HELPED ME:
I started with once a week the first week.
Then the second week i used it twice with several days in between. This week (my 3rd week) I am going to try 1 or 2 days in between depending if i don't feel too much dryness.
PLEASE USE THE "SANDWICH METHOD"
Step 1: I wash my face with Cerave face wash (non foaming) foaming face wash tends to make my skin more dry
Step 2: Cerave daily mosturizing lotion (let dry 3-5 min)
Step 3: Cerave healing ointment on the sensitive areas around the eyes nose and mouth (let dry 3-5 min)
Step 4: IMPORTANT Use only a PEA SIZE of tretinoin (mine is 0.025%) wait another 3-5 min
Step 5: another layer of Cerave daily moisturizing lotion to "sandwich" the tretinoin in moisturizer
SUNSCREEN! SUNSCREEN! SUNSCREEN! ALWAYS!
This Cerave moisturizer says it has 3 essential ceramides and hyalauronic acid but I have not had any burning or dryness like he mentions in the video.
I really hope this helps! I am about to go checkout your video for short contact therapy as you mentioned at the end of the video.
Thank you again Dr. Dray! Please let me know if I am doing something i shouldn't be doing🙏💗
That’s pretty much my plan after using Adapalene daily for a year . Now going to Tretinoin 0.05% . I will use the new cerave cleansing oil then moisturizer and cerave healing ointment around eyes , lips and nose then Tretinoin . Slow and easy .
Perfect timing, I saw this interview 2 days ago and it raised concerns since I'm about to start tretinoin. Before that, I did read literature and studies on tretinoin, so I was confused at first, and then highly skeptical when I heard his interview, especially when I understood that he was in fact promoting his "fat-restoring cream".
There is another video of him talking about facial fat volume loss (again, to promote his cream) with statements about what causes facial fat loss, like intensity training or dynamic movement of the face with no actual studies to back up what he said. The bottom line is, what any good his fat-restoring cream does (if it works) if your skin cannot hold tight because of the lack of collagen?... On the other hand, Tretinoin is clearly promoting collagen production in the skin.
Very well put! That is exactly what he is doing.
Dr. Dray - you are comedic gold without even trying to be!!! I love your analysis of the information and studies to explain the usage - it is unethical to misuse information, especially as it is related to a topic that many are very sensitive about ... at the end of the day, let the buyer beware in all aspects if life.