4 is the best type out there in my opinion. You guys really know how to fully live this short life and doesn't waste any shade of it, no matter if it's suffering or happiness. Keep on being yourself and keep on sharing your gift to the world. Sincerely, type 9. 🙌
My wife is a Four and I definitely resonate with this. There were many things I actually despised about her before I found the Enneagram, because I couldn't understand why she would possibly act in the ways she did. Now those same things I've come to understand and even enjoy about her. As a One of course I'm biased towards the One video in this series, but this Four video is my next favorite.
This made me realize I'm a very unhealthy 4 but also gave me a look into who I could be if I stop trying to be someone I'm not. Type 4s need to learn to embrace and ACCEPT our emotions (and in turn ourselves) without letting them control us. Our emotional range is our greatest strength I'm learning and we can make some damn fantastic and relatable art if we harness that energy as long as we don't get lost in it.
A fellow unhealthy 4 here. We are also our own greatest allies. Our type can suffer from a deep sense of shame and rejection; we can feel like we are broken and unloveable. But one of the greatest quotes I have ever heard came from Tyrion Lanister from Game of Thrones when he told John Snow not to be ashamed just because he was a bastard. "Never forget who you are -- the rest of the world will not; wear it like armor and it can never be used to hurt you." This is so true and it plays to our strengths. Most of us are already brutally honest with who we are: so if we can step into our shame and turn it into self-empowerment, then no one can use it against us. In a sense, we become invincible. Every 4, I believe, needs to embrace who they are, warts and all. It is so painful, but it's worth it: this is the key to our own redemption. Don't run from who you are.
@@mycoffeequest6634 I've heard people describe the Four as having a "Push/Pull" energy (which I definitely see in my wife who is a Four). There's a tension of, "Be close to me... now get away from me!" While this is usually used to describe the Four's relationship with other people, it sounds like you're essentially saying that they have the same tension within themselves. They know who they are and, on the one hand, live to express their individuality and authenticity in all areas of life. But on the other hand, they can dislike those same things about them and want to escape them. Does that make sense?
@@TypeCast Yes, and while that's true in my experience, I can't speak for all 4s. But I have noticed that conflict within myself; I've struggled with it for pretty much my entire life. Growing up, I was largely overlooked, dismissed or not taken seriously for the person that I was -- people often made me feel like there was something wrong with me. As I got older, I began to manifest rebellious tendencies (type 4, sexual subtype). In my early 20s, I fiercely resisted anyone who tried to question or threaten my identity, or worse, who reminded me of all the things I believed was wrong with me. I very much wanted to escape from my flaws; I wanted to escape from myself -- my own body felt like a prison. But eventually, I realized that no matter what I did, or who I pretended to be, people would continue to judge me. So I accepted that who I was as a person was not someone I should try to hide from, nor can you: there's no escaping who you are. I finally understood that the same thing which doomed me could also become my own salvation, if only I knew how to coexist with it. That's where I am now. And whenever people try to shame me, and if their criticism is correct, I accept it as it is: "you're right [I am this...I did do that], but you'll never turn me against myself." That inner conflict is moving closer towards a resolution, I think. But that tug-of-war that I feel within my relationships is still very much alive. I want people near me; I want them in my life, but at the same time, I keep my distance. My guard is always up, because there is fear there: fear of rejection, disappointment, humiliation...and it's hard to look past it. Until that is dealt with, the problems will remain. For the 4, the fear of getting too close is a shame response. But the best place to start is with yourself: the more you accept your own shame, the less you will fear it from others.
Did I cry at the Inside Out family scene again? Yes On another note, thank you for this and all your similar videos! I know this must take a lot of work and I really appreciate it since it has helped me understand the enneagram better.
I. Cry. Every. Time. Editing that clip was rough! Thanks for your kind words! It was indeed a lot of work, but it was a labor of love. And what you’ve described was *exactly* my goal… to help people better understand the Enneagram (and themselves). I’m so glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for this video. That Vincent Van Gogh clip just shattered me, in a wonderful way. As you obviously know, someone likes me derives so much pleasure from getting to know myself, but my true joy is getting the opportunity to express myself, and to be understood. That happens so rarely, if at all, so to experience such a vicarious thrill is deeply moving. Beautiful.
This comment just made me realize why I (as a type 4) had such an emotional reaction when I saw a video of comedian/musician Bo Burnham sat in the audience watching another artist perform one of his songs on stage, surrounded by everyone else singing and feeling his work. I wept just imagining how deeply touching that must've felt, to be so seen and understood by so many. If you feel like watching it, the video is called "Bo Burnham in Audience During Phoebe Bridgers Rendition of “That Funny Feeling” - Greek Theater LA", posted by a channel called "Jrmint"
Bo Burnham’s “Inside” special absolutely wrecked me, both in how profound it was but also in its production value. I’m a professional freelance video producer by trade, and it was quite humbling knowing I’ll never create anything even a thousandth as creative as what he did. I felt the same way when I saw Donald Glover/Childish Gambino’s “This Is America” video, which also wrecked me. I watched the video you recommended and it’s very beautiful. Both her rendition of the song and his reaction to it. Thanks for recommending!
Hi, 4w5 here. Thank you so much for this video. It was uncomfortable at times but deeply moving. We 4s have such a depth of emotion and there are positives and negatives to that. I felt called out but I also felt seen and understood. Lady Bird and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind are two of my favorite movies. I think they do a great job of portraying the ecstasy and misery of the human experience.
Thanks so much! For whatever reason this Four video has significantly more views/engagement than the other videos in the series. I don’t think that’s a coincidence. Fours have that deep desire to discover “who they truly are”, and this video seems to resonate. I’m so glad it touched you in some way!
I never saw Lady Bird, so this was my first exposure to that scene. Talk about feeling called out...there was one very particular point in my life, that I can remember down to the rain on the windshield, where I felt a nearly overwhelming urge to do what she did, also involving my mother. Of course I resisted that urge with all of my being, but that caught me completely off-guard and was a bullseye directly to the heart.
It’s a great film with great characters, and I love Greta Gerwig. Those bullseyes to the heart are hard to ignore. I’ve had some of those recently as well.
Stories are the way that I learn best, and seeing my enneagram type explained through stories I am familiar with helped me relearn some things about myself. There’s nothing that I want more than inspiring others just by being myself. This video helped me get a little bit closer to believing that is possible. Thanks for making it (and for making it so well!).
Thanks for sharing that! My hope for this series has been that it will help people connect with their Types on a deeper level. I'm so glad you connected with it!
For those of you who want to feel even more seen, here’s a list of a few other 4’s! Oscar Wilde Edgar Allen Poe Frida Kahlo Anakin Skywalker (Star Wars) King David (in the Bible) Jess Mariano (Gilmore Girls) Anne Shirley (Anne of Green Gables) Taylor Swift Howl (Howl’s Moving Castle) Klaus Hargreeves (Umbrella Academy) Vanya Hargreeves (Umbrella Academy) Virginia Woolf Kurt Cobain John Mayer Tyler Joseph The Phantom (The Phantom of the Opera) Johnny Depp Loki (Marvel) Troye Sivan David Copperfield (David Copperfield by Charles Dickens) Zuko (Avatar: The Last Airbender) Severus Snape (Harry Potter series) Frederic Chopin Michelangelo Feel free to add more in the replies!!
I was doing ok until the inside out scene and then I lost it. Last time I watched that movie was when I was 16 and now I’m 18 and knowing so much more about myself as a 4 and understanding the feelings Riley talks about are so much more sad. That’s the first time that scene actually made me cry. It’s such a beautiful piece of art.
Ive been an unhealthy 4 my entire life. Feeling misunderstood, unlovable and unhappy. My coping mechanisms were crying until I couldn’t even form tears, making my parents mad, and the usual drinking and smoking. I did things not because I liked it but because I just wanted to ruin myself. It wasn’t until this year that I finally got a healthy mindset and happiness. I realized my love for teaching and traveling and being outside. I’m evolving.
That’s an amazing story! Were you aware of the Enneagram before or did you just discover it this year? I know there are a bajillion personality tools out there, but personally I have found the Enneagram to be the most holistic and the most helpful for deep growth.
@@TypeCast it’s funny because I barely did the enneagram test yesterday while I typed that out. It made so much sense to me it felt like my life and feelings were being read to me.
That’s the power of the Enneagram, especially when you so immediately resonate with a specific Type. If you want to learn more, I highly recommend “The Enneagram Guide to Waking Up” by Beatrice Chestnut. It’s a great resource for learning to grow through the Enneagram.
The thing with the example that you brought up is that these characters are so unapologetically themselves. I am a four, I relate to that, but my existence is very stifled. I don’t act in this sort of quirky way, I’m quiet most of the time. The most interesting is when I actually talk to someone about ideas, then I get passionate and I feel like the ideas, and yes indeed the ‘beauty’ are the most important things in the world. A lot of the action is happening inside me, while from the outside it really looks like my life is incredibly pathetic. I don’t do much, but in my head there’s a whole universe that I’m part of, where I’m the main character of course. Can anybody relate?
Agreed. I think people often type Clem as a 4 due to her quirky style, but to me she's definitely a 7. I think average 4s and 7s can sometimes be intensely drawn to each other in an opposites-attract or even “match made in hell” sort of way. I’ve experienced it myself, and tend to crush on 7s, which is why ESOTSM is such a powerful film for me. I’ve thought about this, and perhaps 4s are drawn to some traits in the 7 that they envy -- such as their vibrancy and spontaneity, while 7s are initially drawn to the 4’s sensitivity but in the long run can become exasperated by their moodiness. While 4s can become exasperated by an average 7’s constant need for stimulation and new experiences. They both like exploring new things, but a lot of times 7's want to keep things light and fun, which 4's can interpret as shallow. Clem’s comment, “I’ll get bored and feel trapped” feels classic 7 to me.
@@yellowyellowleaves Is she really typed as a 4 often??? Hard for me to imagine! She is authentic, adventurous, and IMPULSIVE! The quote "I'm just a fucked up girl looking for my own peace of mind. Don't assign me your's" always resonated with me. Who says 7s can't be moody? haha I agree that 4s can be drawn to 7s like a moth to a roaring fire, hahahaha. I think communication is the most important and somehow difficult thing between these types that process life so differently. I have definitely offended/hurt 4s before by being logical or honest in the wrong moment for that person. On the other hand, it can feel extremely addictive to be needed on the level that a 4 may desire and earth-shattering if they decide that you are not the one for them after all or suddenly withdraw with no explanation. Oftentimes 4s do not feel safe expressing why before withdrawing and have trouble expressing boundaries whereas 7s don't fear confrontation as much and probably need to be explained to in detail where they effed up! Rite??
I love this conversation! Makes me want to go back and rewatch ESOTSM again. As I’ve been doing this series and talking to different people about different characters, so much of them act like a Rorschach test. I’ve had people make suggestions for certain characters as certain Types that, in my opinion, are *clearly* something else (I'll fight to the death that Hermione Granger is a One, Michael Scott is a Two, Ron Swanson is a Five... although I love to argue about almost anything). I’ve also realized that because many of these characters are fictional, they can embody traits of multiple Types in combinations that a real person might never have. Clem's "manic pixie dream girl" might be a good example of this. Some Sevens might see more Seven in her, Fours might see more Four... and both could be right! The value (in my opinion) comes not from placing every character into a definitive Type, but rather from what the character teaches us about ourselves, what "truths" we can learn from their story, and how we can apply that to our own lives.
Nah, every Type has something valuable to bring to the world. If you haven't read it already, check out the Type 4 description on the Enneagram Institute website, specifically the "Levels of Health". That'll show you lots of things (in Levels 1-3) that are great about Fours. www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-4
I wonder when are fours going to be explained by someone who aren’t driven completely crazy by them? Think of Bella and how fucking annoying all the time she is, yet her superpower is to protect energetically everyone because she is unreadable…
It can be so easy for us to despise ourselves, but we have some of the greatest potential out there. We are high risk, high reward people, living on the edge in our own way between disaster and greatness. All of the pain and shame is worth it if we can transmute it into something profound. We make the world beautiful, we uncover the secrets of humanity, and we give life meaning. What could be better than that? I love that I'm a 4. I'm going to fight to make the most of my gifts, and I hope you do too.
I remember when I was in school and I was studying photography and my teacher would annoy me because he would tell us what to take photos of rather than let us decide what we wanted to take photos of and let us express ourselves. This was before I even knew what enneagram meant and it has helped me better understand myself and showed me that it's okay to be different.
as someone who've taken video production, this is well made! definitely relate to many of these characters. it will help many type 4s self reflect after this video. keep up the great work :)
Do any of the clips/quotes from the Type 4 video resonate with you, at least more so than the other Type videos? When trying to get a handle on your Type, especially when it seems unclear which Type you might be, I've found it helpful to ask this question... "What do I need?" The primary need of the 4 is "to be special/unique", which sounds like maybe that fits with you?
I always type as a 4 but not one part of me agrees with the “furious at the world” quote or that all my problems are worse than everyone else’s. Sometimes I even feel like I don’t deserve all the good things in my life compared to those who are better people than me, yet have so much less
I did not expect to still sob at the Inside Out scene which hits even harder bc I had literally moved from Minnesota where I was born and raised the year it was released so when she says “I miss Minnesota” 😭😭 girl I do too
I think Walter Mitty (15:41) is actually also an unhealthy 4 because of the chronic daydreaming he does that represents the longing he feels and how disconnected from other people he feels
Fours can definitely do that, but I think Walter Mitty is more disconnected from himself (in the beginning). His daydreaming is more about him having an outlet for how he wants his life to really be but is too afraid or passive to do anything about it. But… I always say that these fictional characters are subjective and can embody traits in weird combinations that real people wouldn’t have. So both can be true at the same time.
As a 4, my God this hit all the right notes of my core. Wow. Side note, I discovered that I am autistic. Idk of the correlation exactly and not trying to claim there is one or anything like that, as i can only speak for me. But I will say, I've always felt my emotions always seem to be "enhanced," even physically when I have a fever. I just, feel it. I always fail to find words for what my mind and body feel or are going through. Something I've *always* failed to express is when I am feeling melancholic. Someone will try to cheer me up and I will attempt to explain I am actually okay... It makes me feel more alive and grateful for the opposite feelings (Butters from south park explains this better imo lol). No one seems to understand that and I've kind of given up trying. It doesnt help that for an emotional person my mannerisms/reactions are comically expressionless and nonexistent. This is me 🤷🏽♀️♥️ And if any other 4's or anyone else at all cried during "This is me" in The Greatest Showman... I feel you lol
My wife is similar, having feelings that transcend words. The Enneagram was *huge* in finally understanding and moving towards her. I’m so glad you connected with the video though! Stay tuned for Round 2.
does anyone else feel like most of these examples are too extroverted to be relatable? like yeah i relate to the whole tragically detached hopeless romantic philosopher thing, but I would not willingly start a conversation with a stranger, make a dramatic attention-drawing display, or calmly speak in front of a large crowd of people. This part is not relatable to me at all. Im too awkward, shy, and stand-offish to ever attempt to do anything like these supposed type 4’s in this video do.
I think it's because in most 4 descriptions, it's about 4 with a 3 wing (4w3), whose more "out there" and real-life oriented (also extroverted), in a way type 3 is, but us 4w5s exist too, and I as a 4 even envy those with a wing 3, which I suppressed and made my mind my shield from my "deadly" emotions, personality and intensity (more or less, just keeping them in check with my intellect). I'm more like a broken, withdrawn, isolated eccentric that's also bleeding from inside and overflowing with emotions, which 5s aren't so I'm of course worse than them and everyone else. *cue irony of a type 4* (we are self-deprecating and joking when kinda healthy/average, and our characteristic is feeling we're worse off than others)
@@ninaj6051 My wife is a 4w5 and I definitely hear you on "bleeding from inside and overflowing with emotions", although she's "emotional" in the classic sense.
Alright so for fun I went through these characters and checked what other people online typed them as! I incorporated tritypes into this as well, because characters who aren’t a core 4 could have been acting like one because they had 4 in their tritype. 1. Herman Blume - 9w8 962 2. Margot Tenenbaun - 4w5 459 3. Mike Shiner - 7w8 748 4. Joel Barish - 6w5 694 5. Clementine Kruczynski - 7w8 748 6. Carl Casper - 4w3 497 7. Antonio Salieri - 4w3 416 8. Mother - 6w5 629 9. Christine “Lady Bird” McPherson - 4w3 487 10. April Ludgate - 5w4 584 11. Caden Cotard - 4w5 468 12. Suzy Bishop - 4w5 468 13. Wanda Maximoff - 9w8 964 14. Bella Swan - 9w8 946 15. Vincent Van Gogh - 4w5 458 16. Sadness - 4w5 496 Source ~ Personality Database
Thanks for sharing that! For this series the character’s actual Type doesn’t really matter. It’s more about using specific clips to give an overall “flavor” of what a given Type might look like. For example, I use a George Costanza clip in the Three video even though George is clearly a Six. I’ve learned that many characters act as a Rorschach test… people see what they “want” to see, myself included. Plus with fictional characters they might have traits in combinations that a real person would never have.
@@TypeCast Oh yeah I felt like I was forgetting something when I wrote it. The thought popped into my head that it was more about the clip than the character but forgot to write it 🤦🏻
Check out the Type Four description on the RHETI website, specifically the “growth recommendations“ section… www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-4 I’m a type one but The growth recommendations they have on the Type One description are 100% perfect for me. I have also found it helpful to look at the nine levels of health to identify where I’m at, and what are some incremental changes I can make to slowly move my way up towards health.
This was another great video 🙂. In Inside Out, I love that Happiness begins to appreciate Sadness’s gifts just like the integration of 7 to 4 when healthy. X
I am too shocked, I am a four, and the way you have shown it with each film fragment (which several are my favorites) is masterful. Thanks for the amazing work. Please continue to do so, it's an honor to see you.
I appreciate that enneagram types are acknowledged as manifestations of emotional wounds instead of just relatable types you can self-diagnose with. I don't believe any type's better than the others, we all suffer from something. I reckon unhealthy Fours are often excessively dramatic and it frustrates me so much that I can't make them realize that not everything in this life's a terrible tragedy... Just yesterday I pointed out some minor mistakes at one of my best friend's writings and I gave him only two tips to improve his overall writing (I work as a proofreader and he explicitly sent me the file and asked me to give an opinion). In response to that, he texted me some long, serious messages, starting with the following phrase (more or less, as we are Spanish speakers): I hate, I despise being corrected, it destroys me, it makes me feel like my liver's being pressed with hands made of ground glass, because I understand it as an impediment to something I really want to do... I just didn't know what to do other than apologizing. I felt so confused and puzzled at how just a couple of very small comments made him feel so intensely attacked... I mean, I'm a proofreader and he knows it, he wrote something, sent it to me and asked for my comments... I don't understand! 😭
Sounds frustrating. Although I'm a One I have a well-worn trail to Four, especially concerning my "artistic" endeavors. My best guess is that even though your friend asked for your opinion, he was probably looking (or more likely hoping) for validation. I'm working on a new project right now and have experienced the same soul-crushing feeling of receiving "constructive criticism." Even though in the long run such feedback will make my work better (generally)... it still hurts. This new project is my baby. I've poured hundreds of hours of work into it, not to mention all the mental and emotional energy. So even the slightest criticism can be taken very personally. I don't think you did anything wrong. He shouldn't have asked if he couldn't handle the truth (or your opinion at least). Have you tried also telling him some of the things you liked about his writing? That might make the "minor mistakes" go down easier.
Hey you! I'm 4w5.. I never felt so understood in one full video! I'm so grateful i found your video... Thank you so much for work tirelessly on making this.... can't believe a single video could be sympathetic than the folks i've known.. very well made!
Chef is probably in my Top 5 all-time favorite films. We just started watching "The Chef Show" on Netflix and it's great as well. You can really feel the passion they have for the food.
loved this video so much, im hoping this video/series gets more recognition for the hard work that must go into creating them. I couldn't help but tear up when the inside out scene was played. thank you for this!
I feel so validated. Maybe I can achieve my crazy dreams after all. It's so easy to doubt myself as an artist, berating myself for not taking a career that helps people directly, telling myself that I'm no one special and I'm a leech on society. But these words you've shared give me hope in myself. If not me, then who else would help humanity through art the way I want to? If anyone were to walk the unrewarding path of an artist, why not me? Why not take the risk if it means so much to me? All signs point to that I was born for this. So, maybe I will succeed, or else I'll die trying, which would be a noble use of my life. That Van Gogh clip hits harder every time I see it. Thank you for this.
I want to thank you deeply from my heart for this video. It is so well made, and I can see how much time and energy you have put into it. I just discovered today I am a type 4, and this video explained it so well 😍 Actually, that is an understatement... it made me feel seen and understood.
I really appreciate that, and that’s exactly why I put these videos together… to help people feel seen and understood. Stay tuned for Round 2 coming soon!
I already wrote this somewhere else but just remember that Bella’s superpower is to make an energy field to protect everyone else yet before that her mind was unreadable.
Agree to disagree. Although for the purposes of the series her actual Type doesn’t really matter. It’s more about taking short clips and using them to demonstrate certain aspects of each Type. I’m sure I could find some clips throughout the films to use for a Nine video and they would work just fine.
@@TypeCast Yes that makes sense. Also there is a huge difference in the portrayal of Bella in books vs movies so perhaps that has a big influence on our typing of her. Edward is a classic deep and tormented stormy self-hating emo 4
People have made similar observations about Jo from little women. Apparently her portrayals in the book versus the movies is very different? No doubt about Edward though!
while there can of course be beauty in the ordinary, lack of novelty DOES often send me into a bit of a panic. like running out of oxygen in a tight room. the lungs of my soul inflate with beauty and exhale, preferably, art.
Just when I thought I couldn’t know more about myself…. I found this video 😭😭😭 but seriously, this video is art, philosophy, diary, a whole mf internal monologue!!!! I hope your pillows are always cold🖤
I am a 4w5 now I have some movies I can watch that I will be able to relate to. Thanks! Behind the excuse that nobody would understand them lies the refusal to mourn. This is how they desperately cling to what has been lost.
Thanks for watching! This is exactly why I created this series, for people to be able to better understand themselves. I’m so glad it was able to help you in some way!
never had that feeling ever but the closest would have been out in the middle of the ocean in a small boat all alone with the fish 🐬earth is so exhausting
Don Riso was a 4-fixed 9 and his descriptions are often more of 4 fixers than Fours. Your man plopping himself into the pool to billboard his presence unto death is a 9w8, that guy driving the car is also a 9w8 and particulously obviously not any any kind of image type lead, Walter Mitty is a paradigmatic low average 9w1 slipping into dissociative states, the Sean Penn character is an sp/sx 8w7 with a 4w5 fix...
Those are all interesting Type analyses! One of the things I’ve noticed through this whole project is how character portrayals can act as a Rorschach test for people’s views of Enneagram types. Two people can watch the same clip and get radically different things from it. Thanks for the insights!
I am 4 .. and I really like it and to balance myself and not to sink into the sea of my emotions when the time is not right ( when I am doing something important just an eg; completing certain assignment which I have to submit by tomorrow and things like that..) I tend to keep remind my self to keep myself on the track that work is most important because it will remain with you feelings are not because they are momentarily, unreliable and keep changing from one minute to other ,, I used to say this to myself every night before sleeping and it helps me to not blown away by my feelings when the time is not right .. however I let myself completely dive in a very tremendous way in my feelings when I want .. and that's why I like being 4 because u can feel things very deeply and also u can escape reality whenever u want
Well said! “Our greatest strengths are also our greatest weaknesses.” Fours can show us all how to access emotions and integrate them into our lives, but the flip side is getting lost in our emotions and losing touch with reality.
I’m a big ‘ol One. But my wife is a Four and had a lot of input on this video. Also I feel a lot of connection to Four, not just in “Stress” but also in artistic expression.
As a 4 who makes music, the thing I hate hearing the most is 'Oh that song sounds just like _________.' I know they're just being honest, and I should welcome feedback, but originality is everything to me and it kills me to think I'm subconsciously copying 😅
I am type 4 and a boy. My mother is type 3 and my older brother is type 5. They always say I the glue to them since my older brother cant open himself to my mom. But when I try to encourage him to be brave with his feelings, he confesses all. My mom also can only confesses her feelings to me. And when I gave them chance to be open, they shared all of things. That make my mom and brother emotional since they now understand each other. I am novelist in my country (English is not my first language).
That’s what Fours do best (among other things)… help people get in touch with what they are feeling. Do you like being “in the middle,” or is it a burden to you?
@@TypeCast Yes I love to. Sometimes I become self centric. When I was a child, I barely had any interaction with friends, no one at that time looked positively my unqiue point of view. But everything changed when I got to university. My opinion got appreciated by a lot of people and they love to hear me (my self centric-ness gets satisfied)
Fours and Sevens can have some overlap, even though on the surface they seem like the opposite (“happy” vs “sad”). They can both have this “lust for experiences”, a desire to to take in as much as possible. But for very different reasons obviously.
4w5 here, The clip from inside out made me feel sad. I remember when I was 13 and I moved country. It was very hard on me and my family and I can relate to that scene very much. Thank you for sharing these examples. They really help me understand myself and other type 4s better.
I think it’s wild how all of the personality test have almost all told me the same thing. I’m a enneagram 4, INFJ, life path 11, and Aquarius dominant in my astrology chart. 😂 but I love this it makes me feel good to know I have been crazy my entire life I always knew I felt things a lot deeper than other people and I was different.
I’m actually laughing out loud at being called out and watching how I am but from a 3rd person perspective. There’s kind of an irony to how much this makes me laugh...
You know, I think a lot of personality types are bad at introspection, and so a lot of the psychological advice given is about ensuring people that their emotions are valid. This is a good thing. But for type Fours, it can feed their compulsion to make everything about their feelings, so perhaps type Fours should keep in mind that this advice is not necessarily written for them, and too much emotional rumination is bad in the same way that too much food is bad despite food being necessary. (Note: I keep saying "them," but I should be saying "us." I am a Four.)
Yes, Fours (in unhealthy states) can get lost in their feelings, their emotions, their “inner world.” Like Mal in Inception, they can start to confuse the dream world with the real world.
the vibes in this video is immaculate, the dialogues can be kinda calming, i played this video while drawing and it works as a wonderful background noise! edit:8:37 song?
First and foremost, I’m sorry it made you feel misunderstood! My goal with the series is to help bring clarity to what each Type looks like, not sow doubt or confusion. Each video in this series shows examples on a spectrum from healthy to unhealthy. In the Four video, the clips from Mother, Parks and Rec, Captain America, Walter Mitty, parts of Chef, Doctor Who, and Inside Out all show Fours at their best. There’s definitely some unhealthy examples in there, but also in all the other Types as well. Personally that’s what I love about the Enneagram. It invites us to examine all the ways we’re fucked up, no matter our Type. Then it shows us a path to greater health. Are there certain aspects of the Four that you feel weren’t represented here? I’ve already got a running list going for round two of the series, so if you have other characters/clips in mind, I’m all ears!
I just always come back to the 4. Just like being an infj, I wish I was a different type. I've always related to the Bella Swan one and many other type 4s. I feel like I'm not special or artistic enough to be a 4 - Other people are so much more gifted than I am.
Never in my 22 years, I have felt understood.
Yay! I’m so glad it resonated with you!
@@TypeCast It really did. Made me cry. Thank you!
@@whenyousmileismiletoo5419 That's the effect I'm going for... especially for a Four.
I haven't either and I'm 25
Hello friend, I couldn’t agree with you more
4 is the best type out there in my opinion. You guys really know how to fully live this short life and doesn't waste any shade of it, no matter if it's suffering or happiness. Keep on being yourself and keep on sharing your gift to the world.
Sincerely, type 9. 🙌
My wife is a Four and I definitely resonate with this. There were many things I actually despised about her before I found the Enneagram, because I couldn't understand why she would possibly act in the ways she did. Now those same things I've come to understand and even enjoy about her. As a One of course I'm biased towards the One video in this series, but this Four video is my next favorite.
@grik What do you love/hate about it?
I could definitely see that. It seems fours don’t spare any emotion, least of all the negative ones.
All. The. Feels.
There is no such thing as ‘the best’ enneagram type, every type is amazing when they are healthy. If any type is unhealthy they’re bad, simple.
This was insanely accurate. I'm definitely an unhealthy four and it really made me aware of what I need to work on
Growth FTW!
I'm a 4w3 was an unhealthy 4 for years. It was brutal. I've gotten better and it was so worth it.
Seeing that Bella Swan clip hit harder than it shouldve. That was me all of my teen years. But we’re evolving, friends 💖 I love you, my fellow 4’s
What are the teenage years without a little angst?
That clip stuck with me and haunted me for years...now I know why.
@@user-ib2bt4ck7y There was a "possibility" you were a Four all along...
This made me realize I'm a very unhealthy 4 but also gave me a look into who I could be if I stop trying to be someone I'm not. Type 4s need to learn to embrace and ACCEPT our emotions (and in turn ourselves) without letting them control us. Our emotional range is our greatest strength I'm learning and we can make some damn fantastic and relatable art if we harness that energy as long as we don't get lost in it.
Very well said!
A fellow unhealthy 4 here. We are also our own greatest allies. Our type can suffer from a deep sense of shame and rejection; we can feel like we are broken and unloveable. But one of the greatest quotes I have ever heard came from Tyrion Lanister from Game of Thrones when he told John Snow not to be ashamed just because he was a bastard. "Never forget who you are -- the rest of the world will not; wear it like armor and it can never be used to hurt you." This is so true and it plays to our strengths. Most of us are already brutally honest with who we are: so if we can step into our shame and turn it into self-empowerment, then no one can use it against us. In a sense, we become invincible. Every 4, I believe, needs to embrace who they are, warts and all. It is so painful, but it's worth it: this is the key to our own redemption. Don't run from who you are.
@@mycoffeequest6634 I've heard people describe the Four as having a "Push/Pull" energy (which I definitely see in my wife who is a Four). There's a tension of, "Be close to me... now get away from me!" While this is usually used to describe the Four's relationship with other people, it sounds like you're essentially saying that they have the same tension within themselves. They know who they are and, on the one hand, live to express their individuality and authenticity in all areas of life. But on the other hand, they can dislike those same things about them and want to escape them.
Does that make sense?
@@TypeCast Yes, and while that's true in my experience, I can't speak for all 4s. But I have noticed that conflict within myself; I've struggled with it for pretty much my entire life. Growing up, I was largely overlooked, dismissed or not taken seriously for the person that I was -- people often made me feel like there was something wrong with me. As I got older, I began to manifest rebellious tendencies (type 4, sexual subtype). In my early 20s, I fiercely resisted anyone who tried to question or threaten my identity, or worse, who reminded me of all the things I believed was wrong with me. I very much wanted to escape from my flaws; I wanted to escape from myself -- my own body felt like a prison. But eventually, I realized that no matter what I did, or who I pretended to be, people would continue to judge me. So I accepted that who I was as a person was not someone I should try to hide from, nor can you: there's no escaping who you are. I finally understood that the same thing which doomed me could also become my own salvation, if only I knew how to coexist with it. That's where I am now. And whenever people try to shame me, and if their criticism is correct, I accept it as it is: "you're right [I am this...I did do that], but you'll never turn me against myself." That inner conflict is moving closer towards a resolution, I think. But that tug-of-war that I feel within my relationships is still very much alive. I want people near me; I want them in my life, but at the same time, I keep my distance. My guard is always up, because there is fear there: fear of rejection, disappointment, humiliation...and it's hard to look past it. Until that is dealt with, the problems will remain. For the 4, the fear of getting too close is a shame response. But the best place to start is with yourself: the more you accept your own shame, the less you will fear it from others.
Well said! You should check out my Type Four Subtypes video… you might relate to the Sexual Four I’ve got in there.
Did I cry at the Inside Out family scene again?
Yes
On another note, thank you for this and all your similar videos! I know this must take a lot of work and I really appreciate it since it has helped me understand the enneagram better.
I. Cry. Every. Time. Editing that clip was rough!
Thanks for your kind words! It was indeed a lot of work, but it was a labor of love. And what you’ve described was *exactly* my goal… to help people better understand the Enneagram (and themselves). I’m so glad you enjoyed it!
Omfg, I came down to the comments to see if anyone else was somehow in tears at the end of this.
@@Snoozelightable I'm not crying... we're all crying!
Same here 😭
Omg I cry every time I see it too lol
Thank you for this video. That Vincent Van Gogh clip just shattered me, in a wonderful way. As you obviously know, someone likes me derives so much pleasure from getting to know myself, but my true joy is getting the opportunity to express myself, and to be understood. That happens so rarely, if at all, so to experience such a vicarious thrill is deeply moving. Beautiful.
I love hearing that! I just saw the Van Gogh exhibit that’s touring the US and it was beautiful. He was a remarkable person.
@@TypeCast Thank you, again. I might just go and see that exhibit, based on your recommendation.
The best kind of “dead.”
This comment just made me realize why I (as a type 4) had such an emotional reaction when I saw a video of comedian/musician Bo Burnham sat in the audience watching another artist perform one of his songs on stage, surrounded by everyone else singing and feeling his work. I wept just imagining how deeply touching that must've felt, to be so seen and understood by so many.
If you feel like watching it, the video is called "Bo Burnham in Audience During Phoebe Bridgers Rendition of “That Funny Feeling” - Greek Theater LA", posted by a channel called "Jrmint"
Bo Burnham’s “Inside” special absolutely wrecked me, both in how profound it was but also in its production value. I’m a professional freelance video producer by trade, and it was quite humbling knowing I’ll never create anything even a thousandth as creative as what he did. I felt the same way when I saw Donald Glover/Childish Gambino’s “This Is America” video, which also wrecked me.
I watched the video you recommended and it’s very beautiful. Both her rendition of the song and his reaction to it. Thanks for recommending!
Being 4 is kinda like being Mr Anderson constantly waiting for being awaken to the real world
There is no spoon.
timestamps for movies + characters
I applaud your dedication!
Hi, 4w5 here. Thank you so much for this video. It was uncomfortable at times but deeply moving. We 4s have such a depth of emotion and there are positives and negatives to that. I felt called out but I also felt seen and understood.
Lady Bird and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind are two of my favorite movies. I think they do a great job of portraying the ecstasy and misery of the human experience.
Thanks so much! For whatever reason this Four video has significantly more views/engagement than the other videos in the series. I don’t think that’s a coincidence. Fours have that deep desire to discover “who they truly are”, and this video seems to resonate. I’m so glad it touched you in some way!
I never saw Lady Bird, so this was my first exposure to that scene. Talk about feeling called out...there was one very particular point in my life, that I can remember down to the rain on the windshield, where I felt a nearly overwhelming urge to do what she did, also involving my mother. Of course I resisted that urge with all of my being, but that caught me completely off-guard and was a bullseye directly to the heart.
It’s a great film with great characters, and I love Greta Gerwig. Those bullseyes to the heart are hard to ignore. I’ve had some of those recently as well.
@@TypeCast thank you for this video
@@TypeCast keep it up you guys
Stories are the way that I learn best, and seeing my enneagram type explained through stories I am familiar with helped me relearn some things about myself. There’s nothing that I want more than inspiring others just by being myself. This video helped me get a little bit closer to believing that is possible. Thanks for making it (and for making it so well!).
Thanks for sharing that! My hope for this series has been that it will help people connect with their Types on a deeper level. I'm so glad you connected with it!
For those of you who want to feel even more seen, here’s a list of a few other 4’s!
Oscar Wilde
Edgar Allen Poe
Frida Kahlo
Anakin Skywalker (Star Wars)
King David (in the Bible)
Jess Mariano (Gilmore Girls)
Anne Shirley (Anne of Green Gables)
Taylor Swift
Howl (Howl’s Moving Castle)
Klaus Hargreeves (Umbrella Academy)
Vanya Hargreeves (Umbrella Academy)
Virginia Woolf
Kurt Cobain
John Mayer
Tyler Joseph
The Phantom (The Phantom of the Opera)
Johnny Depp
Loki (Marvel)
Troye Sivan
David Copperfield (David Copperfield by Charles Dickens)
Zuko (Avatar: The Last Airbender)
Severus Snape (Harry Potter series)
Frederic Chopin
Michelangelo
Feel free to add more in the replies!!
I'll check some of those out as possibilities for the next video I do.
@@TypeCast Yes please!!! 🙏🏽
@@allnargles I'm workin' on it.
I adore Severus Snape. Now I know why.
The bravest man Harry ever knew.
I was doing ok until the inside out scene and then I lost it. Last time I watched that movie was when I was 16 and now I’m 18 and knowing so much more about myself as a 4 and understanding the feelings Riley talks about are so much more sad. That’s the first time that scene actually made me cry. It’s such a beautiful piece of art.
All… the… feels! I can’t watch that movie without crying. Or Moana.
@@TypeCast for real!😭
I’m crying not just out of sadness but feeling finally understood makes me profoundly happy. I’m glad I figured this thing out a bit more.
I’m so glad to hear that! It’s exactly why I created this channel. Thanks for sharing!
The scene in Doctor Who with the incredible Bill Nighy.... beautiful.
He's one of the greats!
Have you seen the touring Van Gogh exhibit? It’s incredible.
this video really spoke to me, i’ve cried since the first minute bc i KNOW and FEEL all of these things. thank you very much for the excellent job
So glad to hear that!
Never seen such an accurate reflection of myself. I cried many times. It feels like a big hug. Thank you.
That’s the best compliment I could ever receive. And I’m so glad you saw yourself in it!
Yes couldn't have said it any better, felt like a big hug. Isn't it lovely to be pursued and discovered and saved all from one video.
That’s great to hear, that you felt all those things from the video. That was my hope!
Ive been an unhealthy 4 my entire life. Feeling misunderstood, unlovable and unhappy. My coping mechanisms were crying until I couldn’t even form tears, making my parents mad, and the usual drinking and smoking. I did things not because I liked it but because I just wanted to ruin myself. It wasn’t until this year that I finally got a healthy mindset and happiness. I realized my love for teaching and traveling and being outside. I’m evolving.
That’s an amazing story! Were you aware of the Enneagram before or did you just discover it this year? I know there are a bajillion personality tools out there, but personally I have found the Enneagram to be the most holistic and the most helpful for deep growth.
@@TypeCast it’s funny because I barely did the enneagram test yesterday while I typed that out. It made so much sense to me it felt like my life and feelings were being read to me.
That’s the power of the Enneagram, especially when you so immediately resonate with a specific Type. If you want to learn more, I highly recommend “The Enneagram Guide to Waking Up” by Beatrice Chestnut. It’s a great resource for learning to grow through the Enneagram.
The thing with the example that you brought up is that these characters are so unapologetically themselves. I am a four, I relate to that, but my existence is very stifled.
I don’t act in this sort of quirky way, I’m quiet most of the time. The most interesting is when I actually talk to someone about ideas, then I get passionate and I feel like the ideas, and yes indeed the ‘beauty’ are the most important things in the world.
A lot of the action is happening inside me, while from the outside it really looks like my life is incredibly pathetic. I don’t do much, but in my head there’s a whole universe that I’m part of, where I’m the main character of course.
Can anybody relate?
Sounds very Four-ish to me. A vibrant interior world. Just be careful not to get lost in that interior world.
yes, Clem and Joel are the classic average 4 and 7 relationship for most of the movie!!! That's what makes the ending so powerful
Agreed. I think people often type Clem as a 4 due to her quirky style, but to me she's definitely a 7. I think average 4s and 7s can sometimes be intensely drawn to each other in an opposites-attract or even “match made in hell” sort of way. I’ve experienced it myself, and tend to crush on 7s, which is why ESOTSM is such a powerful film for me.
I’ve thought about this, and perhaps 4s are drawn to some traits in the 7 that they envy -- such as their vibrancy and spontaneity, while 7s are initially drawn to the 4’s sensitivity but in the long run can become exasperated by their moodiness. While 4s can become exasperated by an average 7’s constant need for stimulation and new experiences. They both like exploring new things, but a lot of times 7's want to keep things light and fun, which 4's can interpret as shallow.
Clem’s comment, “I’ll get bored and feel trapped” feels classic 7 to me.
@@yellowyellowleaves Is she really typed as a 4 often??? Hard for me to imagine! She is authentic, adventurous, and IMPULSIVE! The quote "I'm just a fucked up girl looking for my own peace of mind. Don't assign me your's" always resonated with me. Who says 7s can't be moody? haha
I agree that 4s can be drawn to 7s like a moth to a roaring fire, hahahaha. I think communication is the most important and somehow difficult thing between these types that process life so differently. I have definitely offended/hurt 4s before by being logical or honest in the wrong moment for that person. On the other hand, it can feel extremely addictive to be needed on the level that a 4 may desire and earth-shattering if they decide that you are not the one for them after all or suddenly withdraw with no explanation. Oftentimes 4s do not feel safe expressing why before withdrawing and have trouble expressing boundaries whereas 7s don't fear confrontation as much and probably need to be explained to in detail where they effed up! Rite??
I love this conversation! Makes me want to go back and rewatch ESOTSM again.
As I’ve been doing this series and talking to different people about different characters, so much of them act like a Rorschach test. I’ve had people make suggestions for certain characters as certain Types that, in my opinion, are *clearly* something else (I'll fight to the death that Hermione Granger is a One, Michael Scott is a Two, Ron Swanson is a Five... although I love to argue about almost anything).
I’ve also realized that because many of these characters are fictional, they can embody traits of multiple Types in combinations that a real person might never have. Clem's "manic pixie dream girl" might be a good example of this. Some Sevens might see more Seven in her, Fours might see more Four... and both could be right!
The value (in my opinion) comes not from placing every character into a definitive Type, but rather from what the character teaches us about ourselves, what "truths" we can learn from their story, and how we can apply that to our own lives.
I have both of those types in my tritype so 🤪 Fun times
Im glad Mozart was included, I remember watching the movie and relating so much to Salieri!
How so?
I just discovered I'm type 4 and - true to the test - my first thought was 'why is this the worst type?' there are so few redeemable traits!
Nah, every Type has something valuable to bring to the world. If you haven't read it already, check out the Type 4 description on the Enneagram Institute website, specifically the "Levels of Health". That'll show you lots of things (in Levels 1-3) that are great about Fours.
www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-4
I wonder when are fours going to be explained by someone who aren’t driven completely crazy by them? Think of Bella and how fucking annoying all the time she is, yet her superpower is to protect energetically everyone because she is unreadable…
It can be so easy for us to despise ourselves, but we have some of the greatest potential out there. We are high risk, high reward people, living on the edge in our own way between disaster and greatness. All of the pain and shame is worth it if we can transmute it into something profound. We make the world beautiful, we uncover the secrets of humanity, and we give life meaning. What could be better than that? I love that I'm a 4. I'm going to fight to make the most of my gifts, and I hope you do too.
So well said! Very on-point description of the Fours I personally know.
I remember when I was in school and I was studying photography and my teacher would annoy me because he would tell us what to take photos of rather than let us decide what we wanted to take photos of and let us express ourselves. This was before I even knew what enneagram meant and it has helped me better understand myself and showed me that it's okay to be different.
“I love doing things exactly how I’m told to do them!”… said no Four ever.
@@TypeCast yeah exactly
as someone who've taken video production, this is well made! definitely relate to many of these characters. it will help many type 4s self reflect after this video. keep up the great work :)
Thanks! I’m a freelance video producer by trade, this is just my side “passion project.” Although maybe someday it could turn into more.
I feel like I’m so unique that none of these types fit me. I also feel like that means I lean towards 4.
Do any of the clips/quotes from the Type 4 video resonate with you, at least more so than the other Type videos? When trying to get a handle on your Type, especially when it seems unclear which Type you might be, I've found it helpful to ask this question... "What do I need?" The primary need of the 4 is "to be special/unique", which sounds like maybe that fits with you?
@@TypeCast I was just kidding, mostly 😆
Mostly….
@@TypeCast I like your videos, by the way!
@@keeganduncan9967 Thanks!
I always type as a 4 but not one part of me agrees with the “furious at the world” quote or that all my problems are worse than everyone else’s. Sometimes I even feel like I don’t deserve all the good things in my life compared to those who are better people than me, yet have so much less
That clip is an example of an unhealthy Four, so it’s good sign that you don’t relate to it!
You Fours make a great combo with us Ones… none of us ever feel good enough.
Wait, why am I the first person to comment? THis video was amazing and I think a lot of work! Thank you for making it ^^
Thanks! You win the “first comment” prize… one trillion dollars in Blockbuster gift certificates.
@@TypeCast wow that's amazing 😂😘 but seriously, your work deserves more attention!
I don’t mind saying that I agree! Feel free to share find and wide.
Derp. Far and wide.
I did not expect to still sob at the Inside Out scene which hits even harder bc I had literally moved from Minnesota where I was born and raised the year it was released so when she says “I miss Minnesota” 😭😭 girl I do too
That scene has all… the… feels. Also, that explains why your burrito is frozen. It gets cold up there!
Didn't think I would be crying today yet here we are.
My work here is done.
That inside out scene got me choked up
You and me both, pal.
Criminally underrated channel. This is so good!!
Admittedly I'm biased, but I agree!
That seen from Doctor Who makes me cry every time.
You and me both pal!
I think Walter Mitty (15:41) is actually also an unhealthy 4 because of the chronic daydreaming he does that represents the longing he feels and how disconnected from other people he feels
Fours can definitely do that, but I think Walter Mitty is more disconnected from himself (in the beginning). His daydreaming is more about him having an outlet for how he wants his life to really be but is too afraid or passive to do anything about it.
But… I always say that these fictional characters are subjective and can embody traits in weird combinations that real people wouldn’t have. So both can be true at the same time.
9s can also chronic daydream keeping them from living.
Exactly
As a 4, my God this hit all the right notes of my core. Wow. Side note, I discovered that I am autistic. Idk of the correlation exactly and not trying to claim there is one or anything like that, as i can only speak for me. But I will say, I've always felt my emotions always seem to be "enhanced," even physically when I have a fever. I just, feel it. I always fail to find words for what my mind and body feel or are going through. Something I've *always* failed to express is when I am feeling melancholic. Someone will try to cheer me up and I will attempt to explain I am actually okay... It makes me feel more alive and grateful for the opposite feelings (Butters from south park explains this better imo lol). No one seems to understand that and I've kind of given up trying. It doesnt help that for an emotional person my mannerisms/reactions are comically expressionless and nonexistent. This is me 🤷🏽♀️♥️
And if any other 4's or anyone else at all cried during "This is me" in The Greatest Showman... I feel you lol
My wife is similar, having feelings that transcend words. The Enneagram was *huge* in finally understanding and moving towards her.
I’m so glad you connected with the video though! Stay tuned for Round 2.
does anyone else feel like most of these examples are too extroverted to be relatable? like yeah i relate to the whole tragically detached hopeless romantic philosopher thing, but I would not willingly start a conversation with a stranger, make a dramatic attention-drawing display, or calmly speak in front of a large crowd of people. This part is not relatable to me at all. Im too awkward, shy, and stand-offish to ever attempt to do anything like these supposed type 4’s in this video do.
Do you have any Type Four characters in mind that more closely match with how you relate to being a Four?
I think it's because in most 4 descriptions, it's about 4 with a 3 wing (4w3), whose more "out there" and real-life oriented (also extroverted), in a way type 3 is, but us 4w5s exist too, and I as a 4 even envy those with a wing 3, which I suppressed and made my mind my shield from my "deadly" emotions, personality and intensity (more or less, just keeping them in check with my intellect). I'm more like a broken, withdrawn, isolated eccentric that's also bleeding from inside and overflowing with emotions, which 5s aren't so I'm of course worse than them and everyone else. *cue irony of a type 4* (we are self-deprecating and joking when kinda healthy/average, and our characteristic is feeling we're worse off than others)
The girls must love that though
@@ninaj6051 My wife is a 4w5 and I definitely hear you on "bleeding from inside and overflowing with emotions", although she's "emotional" in the classic sense.
Alright so for fun I went through these characters and checked what other people online typed them as! I incorporated tritypes into this as well, because characters who aren’t a core 4 could have been acting like one because they had 4 in their tritype.
1. Herman Blume - 9w8 962
2. Margot Tenenbaun - 4w5 459
3. Mike Shiner - 7w8 748
4. Joel Barish - 6w5 694
5. Clementine Kruczynski - 7w8 748
6. Carl Casper - 4w3 497
7. Antonio Salieri - 4w3 416
8. Mother - 6w5 629
9. Christine “Lady Bird” McPherson - 4w3 487
10. April Ludgate - 5w4 584
11. Caden Cotard - 4w5 468
12. Suzy Bishop - 4w5 468
13. Wanda Maximoff - 9w8 964
14. Bella Swan - 9w8 946
15. Vincent Van Gogh - 4w5 458
16. Sadness - 4w5 496
Source ~ Personality Database
Thanks for sharing that! For this series the character’s actual Type doesn’t really matter. It’s more about using specific clips to give an overall “flavor” of what a given Type might look like. For example, I use a George Costanza clip in the Three video even though George is clearly a Six.
I’ve learned that many characters act as a Rorschach test… people see what they “want” to see, myself included. Plus with fictional characters they might have traits in combinations that a real person would never have.
@@TypeCast Oh yeah I felt like I was forgetting something when I wrote it. The thought popped into my head that it was more about the clip than the character but forgot to write it 🤦🏻
I’m planning to do some “case study” videos where I do a deep dive on a single character. In that case it will matter!
@@TypeCast Oh yeah that’s sounds great! Here is some I wanna see:
The Bride aka Beatrix Kiddo
Aragorn
Michael Corleone
Darth Vader
Tyler Durden
Those are some great characters… I’ll keep them in mind!
I’m an unhealthy four, pretty sure there is no way out. I can’t find what I am good at.
Check out the Type Four description on the RHETI website, specifically the “growth recommendations“ section…
www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-4
I’m a type one but The growth recommendations they have on the Type One description are 100% perfect for me. I have also found it helpful to look at the nine levels of health to identify where I’m at, and what are some incremental changes I can make to slowly move my way up towards health.
This was another great video 🙂. In Inside Out, I love that Happiness begins to appreciate Sadness’s gifts just like the integration of 7 to 4 when healthy. X
My wife is a Four and she's definitely taught me to appreciate the gift of sadness.
Love being a 4. Having said that I had to stop watching this at the inside out clip because I’m in a public cafe and I already started crying FUCK
It was tough getting through the editing of that part… I cry every time.
@@TypeCast just came back to this to finish that scene in peace. Yes I am crying
I am too shocked, I am a four, and the way you have shown it with each film fragment (which several are my favorites) is masterful. Thanks for the amazing work. Please continue to do so, it's an honor to see you.
Thanks! And you’re in luck… I’m working on the next round now. Stay tuned!
I appreciate that enneagram types are acknowledged as manifestations of emotional wounds instead of just relatable types you can self-diagnose with. I don't believe any type's better than the others, we all suffer from something.
I reckon unhealthy Fours are often excessively dramatic and it frustrates me so much that I can't make them realize that not everything in this life's a terrible tragedy... Just yesterday I pointed out some minor mistakes at one of my best friend's writings and I gave him only two tips to improve his overall writing (I work as a proofreader and he explicitly sent me the file and asked me to give an opinion). In response to that, he texted me some long, serious messages, starting with the following phrase (more or less, as we are Spanish speakers):
I hate, I despise being corrected, it destroys me, it makes me feel like my liver's being pressed with hands made of ground glass, because I understand it as an impediment to something I really want to do...
I just didn't know what to do other than apologizing. I felt so confused and puzzled at how just a couple of very small comments made him feel so intensely attacked... I mean, I'm a proofreader and he knows it, he wrote something, sent it to me and asked for my comments... I don't understand! 😭
Sounds frustrating. Although I'm a One I have a well-worn trail to Four, especially concerning my "artistic" endeavors. My best guess is that even though your friend asked for your opinion, he was probably looking (or more likely hoping) for validation. I'm working on a new project right now and have experienced the same soul-crushing feeling of receiving "constructive criticism." Even though in the long run such feedback will make my work better (generally)... it still hurts. This new project is my baby. I've poured hundreds of hours of work into it, not to mention all the mental and emotional energy. So even the slightest criticism can be taken very personally.
I don't think you did anything wrong. He shouldn't have asked if he couldn't handle the truth (or your opinion at least). Have you tried also telling him some of the things you liked about his writing? That might make the "minor mistakes" go down easier.
This video is SO beautiful, I loved it. Thank you for making it, I don't think I will ever forget it!
Thanks! And that’s the great thing about TH-cam… you can watch it everyday. Bonus: that would help my view count.
They left the best scene for the end, if you agree, breathe.
That was the goal… end on a feel good moment.
Hey you! I'm 4w5.. I never felt so understood in one full video! I'm so grateful i found your video... Thank you so much for work tirelessly on making this.... can't believe a single video could be sympathetic than the folks i've known.. very well made!
Thanks, that's really great to hear! I'm so glad you connected with it.
THIS IS SO GOOD! @TYPECAST, YOU ARE REALLY DOING A GOOD JOB OVER THERE!
Thanks, I really appreciate that!
Chef is a great film about food and father-son relationship.
Chef is probably in my Top 5 all-time favorite films. We just started watching "The Chef Show" on Netflix and it's great as well. You can really feel the passion they have for the food.
loved this video so much, im hoping this video/series gets more recognition for the hard work that must go into creating them. I couldn't help but tear up when the inside out scene was played. thank you for this!
Thanks! Feel free to share with anyone you think might be interested.
Wow I'm so deeply moved by this, tears of appreciation and sorrow streaming
Sounds like it worked then!
I feel so validated. Maybe I can achieve my crazy dreams after all. It's so easy to doubt myself as an artist, berating myself for not taking a career that helps people directly, telling myself that I'm no one special and I'm a leech on society. But these words you've shared give me hope in myself. If not me, then who else would help humanity through art the way I want to? If anyone were to walk the unrewarding path of an artist, why not me? Why not take the risk if it means so much to me? All signs point to that I was born for this. So, maybe I will succeed, or else I'll die trying, which would be a noble use of my life. That Van Gogh clip hits harder every time I see it. Thank you for this.
Once again, beautifully said! As a One I feel a strong connection the Four-ness of what you’re saying… art is pain, but worth it in the end.
I just stumbled on to this... Thank you very much for the energy & work that you put into this. So good...
Thanks! I hope it resonates with you.
I want to thank you deeply from my heart for this video. It is so well made, and I can see how much time and energy you have put into it. I just discovered today I am a type 4, and this video explained it so well 😍 Actually, that is an understatement... it made me feel seen and understood.
I really appreciate that, and that’s exactly why I put these videos together… to help people feel seen and understood. Stay tuned for Round 2 coming soon!
I already wrote this somewhere else but just remember that Bella’s superpower is to make an energy field to protect everyone else yet before that her mind was unreadable.
The idea being that Fours can seem unreadable sometimes?
Except Bella isn't a 4, she's a 9
Agree to disagree. Although for the purposes of the series her actual Type doesn’t really matter. It’s more about taking short clips and using them to demonstrate certain aspects of each Type. I’m sure I could find some clips throughout the films to use for a Nine video and they would work just fine.
@@TypeCast Yes that makes sense. Also there is a huge difference in the portrayal of Bella in books vs movies so perhaps that has a big influence on our typing of her. Edward is a classic deep and tormented stormy self-hating emo 4
People have made similar observations about Jo from little women. Apparently her portrayals in the book versus the movies is very different? No doubt about Edward though!
Excellent video. Thank you! It's a pleasure to be a deep-feeling, tumultuous soul. I wouldn't have it any other way.
Thanks!
Holy shit .. eternal sunshine is my favorite movie. Watching this just makes so much sense. I feel understood. Why am I crying :))
@Jordyn Puzsar It feels good to feel understood!
while there can of course be beauty in the ordinary, lack of novelty DOES often send me into a bit of a panic. like running out of oxygen in a tight room. the lungs of my soul inflate with beauty and exhale, preferably, art.
Wow… beautifully said! I love that idea of exhaling art from beauty.
Not me crying at the inside out scene✌🏻. I felt all of theses
Sadness FTW!
i feel so understood right now & to see the possibilities of when i could be healthy, it makes me hopeful
I can’t tell you how happy I am to hear that. That’s exactly why I’m doing this series!
@@TypeCast i’m glad you’re doing the series then!
Just when I thought I couldn’t know more about myself…. I found this video 😭😭😭 but seriously, this video is art, philosophy, diary, a whole mf internal monologue!!!! I hope your pillows are always cold🖤
Unending cold pillows are everything I ever dreamed of. Also… that’s so great to hear that you connected with the video. That was my hope for it!
I am a 4w5 now I have some movies I can watch that I will be able to relate to. Thanks!
Behind the excuse that nobody would understand them lies the refusal to mourn. This is how they desperately cling to what has been lost.
I’m glad it was relatable for you!
I appreciate this, I’ve always felt like I was broken in a way. It’s nice to know I’m normal in a way, thank you
Thanks for watching! This is exactly why I created this series, for people to be able to better understand themselves. I’m so glad it was able to help you in some way!
i been saying "i want to go home" all my life "i don't belong here"
Is there anywhere you do feel you belong?
never had that feeling ever but the closest would have been out in the middle of the ocean in a small boat all alone with the fish 🐬earth is so exhausting
That boat sounds good to me!
Don Riso was a 4-fixed 9 and his descriptions are often more of 4 fixers than Fours. Your man plopping himself into the pool to billboard his presence unto death is a 9w8, that guy driving the car is also a 9w8 and particulously obviously not any any kind of image type lead, Walter Mitty is a paradigmatic low average 9w1 slipping into dissociative states, the Sean Penn character is an sp/sx 8w7 with a 4w5 fix...
Those are all interesting Type analyses! One of the things I’ve noticed through this whole project is how character portrayals can act as a Rorschach test for people’s views of Enneagram types. Two people can watch the same clip and get radically different things from it. Thanks for the insights!
Awesome analysis! So helpful to see traits described in books personified and vivid! Thank you for your work! ❤
Thanks for watching, I really appreciate your kind words!
I am 4 .. and I really like it and to balance myself and not to sink into the sea of my emotions when the time is not right ( when I am doing something important just an eg; completing certain assignment which I have to submit by tomorrow and things like that..) I tend to keep remind my self to keep myself on the track that work is most important because it will remain with you feelings are not because they are momentarily, unreliable and keep changing from one minute to other ,, I used to say this to myself every night before sleeping and it helps me to not blown away by my feelings when the time is not right .. however I let myself completely dive in a very tremendous way in my feelings when I want .. and that's why I like being 4 because u can feel things very deeply and also u can escape reality whenever u want
Well said! “Our greatest strengths are also our greatest weaknesses.” Fours can show us all how to access emotions and integrate them into our lives, but the flip side is getting lost in our emotions and losing touch with reality.
As a 4w5 i love my new all black outfit
Black is the required uniform for 4w5s. Joking not joking.
This is so beautifully edited. I am a type 4 and this was so informative and entertaining to watch 😍
Well… I can die happy now! Can’t tell you how encouraging it is to hear you say that. Thank you!
I’m a freelance video producer as my “day job,” so it feels good to hear affirmation of whatever skillz I can bring to this project.
@@TypeCast yay that’s amazing! Just curious…what is YOUR enneagram type?
I’m a big ‘ol One. But my wife is a Four and had a lot of input on this video. Also I feel a lot of connection to Four, not just in “Stress” but also in artistic expression.
As a 4 who makes music, the thing I hate hearing the most is 'Oh that song sounds just like _________.' I know they're just being honest, and I should welcome feedback, but originality is everything to me and it kills me to think I'm subconsciously copying 😅
“Lesser artists borrow; great artists steal”
This video made me cry... Especially the parks n rec scene
Where’s all the faces… of the Presidents?
Obrigado, nossa. To put clear examples together with the paragraphs of the study books
Thanks!
Incredible work to put this together!
Thanks! It’s a labor of love.
I am type 4 and a boy. My mother is type 3 and my older brother is type 5. They always say I the glue to them since my older brother cant open himself to my mom. But when I try to encourage him to be brave with his feelings, he confesses all. My mom also can only confesses her feelings to me. And when I gave them chance to be open, they shared all of things. That make my mom and brother emotional since they now understand each other.
I am novelist in my country (English is not my first language).
That’s what Fours do best (among other things)… help people get in touch with what they are feeling. Do you like being “in the middle,” or is it a burden to you?
@@TypeCast Yes I love to. Sometimes I become self centric. When I was a child, I barely had any interaction with friends, no one at that time looked positively my unqiue point of view. But everything changed when I got to university. My opinion got appreciated by a lot of people and they love to hear me (my self centric-ness gets satisfied)
I’m glad to hear that your voice became appreciated!
4 here absolutely bawling at Vincent Van Gogh
You and me both, pal.
I’m a type 4 this was a good video.
Thanks! I’m always glad when these videos resonate with people of that type.
Thank you for making this ! This is amazing .
Thank you! That means a lot.
as 4, inside out movie and this sense makes me cry
I’m not a Four and I also cry every time!
Beautiful video, the last clip had me
I saved the best for last!
4 are beautiful beings. Different, unique and beautiful. We are just something else though.
I suppose a Four isn’t a Four if they’re not different or unique in some way.
Incredible collection.
Thanks! I think it came together nicely, but of course I’m biased.
What an awesome video! So much work went into this. So well researched! Thx!
It was definitely a lot of work, but a labor of love!
Sean O' Connell's chasing an enneagram 7 high all over the world. Super independent and intense 8 wing as well.
Fours and Sevens can have some overlap, even though on the surface they seem like the opposite (“happy” vs “sad”). They can both have this “lust for experiences”, a desire to to take in as much as possible. But for very different reasons obviously.
Having said that, Sean may not be a Four in the aggregate. I’d have to think more about it. That specific clip is very Four-ish though.
4w5 here, The clip from inside out made me feel sad. I remember when I was 13 and I moved country. It was very hard on me and my family and I can relate to that scene very much. Thank you for sharing these examples. They really help me understand myself and other type 4s better.
Thanks! I’m sorry to hear that you experienced that, but I’m glad that the video was relatable for you.
I always cry when I see Bob Dylan. I feel like if I were to pick any four that most represented me, it would be him.
Subterranean Homesick Blues is about the Four-est song title imaginable.
@@TypeCast yes!! It just pretty much sums up the everything fours think about.
Thanks for this :)
No… thank you!
These are some of my favorite tv characters too lol!
There's some good ones in there for sure.
I think it’s wild how all of the personality test have almost all told me the same thing. I’m a enneagram 4, INFJ, life path 11, and Aquarius dominant in my astrology chart. 😂 but I love this it makes me feel good to know I have been crazy my entire life I always knew I felt things a lot deeper than other people and I was different.
If you feel things deeper than most people and also feel “different“, Type Four is a good bet!
I’m actually laughing out loud at being called out and watching how I am but from a 3rd person perspective. There’s kind of an irony to how much this makes me laugh...
Don’t worry… I won’t tell anyone. Our little secret.
Thank you for seeing me.
Sincerely,
A Four
Thank you for watching!
those last 2 clips made me bawl my eyes out lol.
You and me both!
You know, I think a lot of personality types are bad at introspection, and so a lot of the psychological advice given is about ensuring people that their emotions are valid. This is a good thing. But for type Fours, it can feed their compulsion to make everything about their feelings, so perhaps type Fours should keep in mind that this advice is not necessarily written for them, and too much emotional rumination is bad in the same way that too much food is bad despite food being necessary.
(Note: I keep saying "them," but I should be saying "us." I am a Four.)
Yes, Fours (in unhealthy states) can get lost in their feelings, their emotions, their “inner world.” Like Mal in Inception, they can start to confuse the dream world with the real world.
I'm a type 4, but i also have a borderline personality disorder so who's to say lol
BPD is rough, sorry to hear that. But at least you're aware of it.
that was so beautiful :') thank you for all of this hard work😌
Thanks for watching! I hope it resonated with you.
This was so inspirational.
Thanks!
the vibes in this video is immaculate, the dialogues can be kinda calming, i played this video while drawing and it works as a wonderful background noise!
edit:8:37 song?
Thanks! Here’s the song.
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This is really well made. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Excellent work!
Like… duh!
@@TypeCast hahaha!
This video best describes fours and I will share will also willing to hear
Thanks!
this makes us seem fucked up...I am not...this video still makes me feel misunderstood....
First and foremost, I’m sorry it made you feel misunderstood! My goal with the series is to help bring clarity to what each Type looks like, not sow doubt or confusion.
Each video in this series shows examples on a spectrum from healthy to unhealthy. In the Four video, the clips from Mother, Parks and Rec, Captain America, Walter Mitty, parts of Chef, Doctor Who, and Inside Out all show Fours at their best. There’s definitely some unhealthy examples in there, but also in all the other Types as well.
Personally that’s what I love about the Enneagram. It invites us to examine all the ways we’re fucked up, no matter our Type. Then it shows us a path to greater health.
Are there certain aspects of the Four that you feel weren’t represented here? I’ve already got a running list going for round two of the series, so if you have other characters/clips in mind, I’m all ears!
Wong Kar-Wai's movies are Characters of Enneagram type 4.
I’m not familiar with his films but I’ll check it out!
I just always come back to the 4. Just like being an infj, I wish I was a different type. I've always related to the Bella Swan one and many other type 4s. I feel like I'm not special or artistic enough to be a 4 - Other people are so much more gifted than I am.
Not all Fours are artistic, nor should they be. You can find your own unique ways to express yourself. It doesn’t make you any less than anyone else.
Wow. Thank you!
Thanks for watching!