Semiconductor Curve Tracing Using Function Generator/AWG

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  • Here I showed a couple of methods to implement a curve tracer using Function generator/AWG.
    00:00 Introduction
    01:12 Standalone Curve Tracing Circuitry
    01:45 Method One
    03:06 Method Two
    05:26 Measurement Setup with Method One
    07:43 NPN transistor Curve Tracing/Parameters Adjustment
    13:25 N-Channel MOSFET Characteristics Curve
    14:28 NPN transistor Characteristics Curve using Method Two/Conclusion
    If you wanted to build a stand-alone curve tracer, you can check out the article I wrote a while back:
    www.kerrywong.com/2013/09/02/y...
    www.kerrywong.com/2013/09/09/y...
    Here are a couple of review videos of the Function Generator/AWG used in this video:
    UNI-T UTG962E: • UNI-T UTG962E Function...
    Hantek 2D72: • Hantek 2D72 3-in-1 Han...
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  • @adrian.parano
    @adrian.parano 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very good video!! thanks for sharing!!! Regards from Buenos Aires, Argentina

  • @robbieaussievic
    @robbieaussievic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ...... Informative, articulate, clear, concise, and above all, 'Cool for Cats'.
    Well done Mate.

  • @artrock8175
    @artrock8175 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! Thankyou for sharing! 🙏

  • @HitAndMissLab
    @HitAndMissLab 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was looking for video like this for ages. Thanks!

  • @andymouse
    @andymouse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting....cheers.

  • @trollobite1629
    @trollobite1629 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    *"...in the good old days..."*
    You borrowed the local college's copy of _Towers Transistor Selector_

    • @keithking1985
      @keithking1985 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      IV just started learning electronics. And I often wonder what "old-timers" (I'd be an old-timer myself, but you know what I mean) must think about how good (and cheap plus easy excess able) that goods has become these days. And speaking from experience now is a great time to get into electronics because of the amount of videos to learn from.. been absolutely terrible at math held me back from even trying as a kid, but once I started 5/6 years back maths started making perfect sense to me.. so I feel I missed out and am making up for it now..
      I bet you have seen some changes over the years 👍😊🇮🇪

  • @MsFireboy2
    @MsFireboy2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Question was was the amplitude did you set the stair step into the Base of the transistor under test?

  • @RicardoPenders
    @RicardoPenders 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, I've made myself a simple curve tracer circuit using a 555 timer, a dual op amp LM358, a single op amp UA741 and a couple PNP and NPN transistors, I have a current mirror using two PNP transistors so I can use the mirrored signal to connect the second scope probe to for measuring the current through the DUT.
    So, I have a fast square wave coming out the 555 timer and a slower square wave that I get from one side of the dual op amp which I'm using to reset the 555 timer via a NPN transistor and at the same time I have another NPN transistor that I use together with a capacitor and the second op amp to create a stairstep wave that I use to drive the base of the DUT, the collector from the DUT goes to probe one of the scope [Y] and through the current mirror to scope probe two [X].
    The circuit works and I see the scope doing its best to show me something that looks a bit like a curve tracer, but something is off and I don't know what exactly and now that I watched this video hearing you talk about the problem we can have that we can't flip the wave or something like that, I'll have to watch it again because I don't understand that particular part, I can't visualize it in my brain before me as I have to be able to do for me to understand what's happening.
    It's the way I learn and remember it for the rest of my life.
    I'm making a video about it and I'll upload it here to TH-cam as soon as I can, maybe when you see the curve tracer signal on my scope you can tell me what's going wrong, at least that's what I hope.

    • @KerryWongBlog
      @KerryWongBlog  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I built a V/I curve tracer a while back (www.kerrywong.com/2013/09/02/yet-another-semiconductor-vi-curve-tracer/) and the results were pretty decent (www.kerrywong.com/2013/09/09/yet-another-semiconductor-vi-curve-tracer-ii/).

    • @RicardoPenders
      @RicardoPenders 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KerryWongBlog I watched the video about it which is this video here.
      The thing is that I'm learning to do it all analog and I have it working, kind of working I think.
      It's just that I never made anything like this and I don't have a lot of experience with my oscilloscope that's also new for me so I'm not sure that the curve tracer is showing what it supposed to show or not.
      And I have a digital scope which makes the X/Y trace behave different when compared to an analog scope, especially with this particular mode.
      All that is complicating things for me figuring this out but I have to work with what I got and I believe when I have it working great and made it completely analog that I have a better understanding how it all works.
      Which makes it easier for me in the future when I start another project.

  • @aerofart
    @aerofart 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Kerry, new subscriber here. I very much enjoyed this video and look forward to watching more. I’ve been very interested in semiconductor characteristic curves for as long as I can remember. I find transistors (and other amplification mechanisms) fascinating. With all this talk about the characteristic curves of BJT however, the one important question that i haven’t seen addressed is: now that you have your curves, HOW DO YOU USE THEM? Would it be possible for you to do a follow-up video where you set up various scenarios (problems) and a box of different transistors and explain how the IV (and other) curves can be used in a real-world scenario?

    • @KerryWongBlog
      @KerryWongBlog  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Much appreciated! Curve tracing is mainly used for analog transistor circuit designs (e.g. for setting the biasing point or Q point, figuring out the dynamic ranges etc). If there is enough interests in this topic I will do a video on it.

    • @aerofart
      @aerofart 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KerryWongBlog sounds good. I’m just trying to find an easy(ier) way to get a transistor to do what I want without having to do all the tedious calculations. And also trying to understand when exactly transistors with differing characteristics are used and for what applications. I can think of three (switching, audio, and RF) specialization, but even within those specializations there seem to be many transistors to choose from.

    • @aerofart
      @aerofart 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ralph Reilly not trolling, just very eccentric. I have always marveled at electronics, not simply for what they do, but for the underlying science behind it all - it's fascinating to know how things of this world behave, even moreso knowing why!

    • @gerryjamesedwards1227
      @gerryjamesedwards1227 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aerofart You can also use the curves to find closely matched transistors, for building discrete differential amps, for instance.

  • @nityanandadas5575
    @nityanandadas5575 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video.
    Whether The Staircase wave form for base current and SAWTOOTH wave should be independent or synchronized?
    Another point is whether I can use Digital Storage Oscilloscope for this experiment to get the curves? Please.
    Thanks and Regards

    • @KerryWongBlog
      @KerryWongBlog  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      These are two independent signal sources so they are not synchronized. In theory DSOs can plot in XY mode as well but a lot of the cheap ones have very limited refresh rates in XY mode so it may not work well. You will have to try it with your scope.

    • @nityanandadas5575
      @nityanandadas5575 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KerryWongBlog Thanks for your reply.
      Helpful.

    • @nityanandadas5575
      @nityanandadas5575 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​@@KerryWongBlog Will you please explain why isolated grounds are needed?
      Thanks
      N Das from INDIA

  • @andrejradulovic5666
    @andrejradulovic5666 ปีที่แล้ว

    schematics is not complited, awg on base side has only one lead drawn, complete the circuit:D

  • @baconsledge
    @baconsledge ปีที่แล้ว

    I could never get my Uni-T freq generator working with Win-11 because the software is horrid. Happily returned to Amazon. Pay more, get more.