It's cool that Kara used to like Elon and then clearly changed her mind. I never respected him in the first place and remember sharing the first videos about him being a hack in 2016.
I agree with Scott on most issues. However, on OpenAI, if any non-profits can go the same way "raising donations then totally change their goals and turn themselves into a for-profit", how messy that sector is going to be. Is it ok for a gun-control advocating non-profit raising donations then changes itself into Ruger?
People forget neuralink and openAI shared the same office from 2014 to 2019 and were sister organisations Elons partner the mother of his 3 children shivon zilis ran the openai board From 2015 to 2019 and happens to run neuralink too Neuralink was founded as an AI company to keep up with AI but in the short term it's a medical company but the AI neuralace was the OG idea The lack of details about how Microsoft can own 49% of non profit for profit subsidiary witj Microsoft Azure credits avoiding antitrust When Elon was an angel investor in deepmind and was annoyed when Google bought it but wanted someone to be the next Google without being controlled by Microsoft or Google
It's amazing that you all know exactly what is in Elon's head... This is nothing but mind-reading (which is impossible), speculation and personal opinions... Doesn't mean you aren't right, but the odds are not with you...
That's a generous take... They keep trying to discredit Elon by calling him a loser and crybaby.. Elon definitely makes mistakes but he hasn't gotten to this point by being the child they claim.
We do not know what goes behind the scene in these high profile companies. The only thing we know is that Ilya is a decent human and a great scientist. Why did he try to remove Sam? No one still knows. So please don't go one level deep into such an important issue.
Its not about bitterness but principle. Open AI was founded as an open source non-profit organization. Its in the name (Open) . Elon put in 44M and Sam offered him shares which he turned down. Those shares will be worth billions of dollars , so the company being a for-profit benefits Elon not hurt him.
@@wonmoreminute When Sam sold 50% of openAI to microsoft last yr. Elon made it clear (publicly) that he wasnt happy with that decision and Sam offended him shares in return for his 44M he put up to start openAI. He turned it down because its not about money ,power or "bitterness" . The goal of open AI from the begining was to be open source.
These idiots forgot to mention that Sam offered Elon a ton of stock in OpenAI, but Elon refused and demanded Sam open up OpenAI as the company stated. You guys are terrible journalists
@@KK-pm7ud Lol sure, but you can go read them yourself. He was clearly telling them they need to be profitable because they have no chance to compete with google... and by selling to him - he could make it happen. Its right in the face of his alleged lawsuit.... goodluck Musk
Elon musk isn't doing it for money and he's not doing it for power anyone that knows elon would know this he's turned down money plenty of times not to mention he's invested a lot in openai so it's like his child and he cares deeply about it. more importantly what he cares about is helping humanity that has been his number one priority most of his life helping out humanity. if open AI ends up being profit-driven it's only going to cause more inequality. the tools for AI need to be non-profit and open to all so all humanity benefits.
These two podcasters hate Musk and their conclusions are always totally predictable. They have a point that big guys suing small companies is problematic. Still they like all the lawsuits against Trump because he is dangerous. A message geared for the echo chamber
Open Ai isnt a small company here. Its 50% owned by Microsoft which is a $3Trillion company. So they are backing the coperation over open-source ironicly lol
@@island97 True. Without knowing details it seems odd that you can change from not-for-profit to for-profit. Sad Galloway is so political because he is a smart guy, but now he is just harping in an echo bubble
@@123axel123 agreed. Any normal person in Musk position would be pissed. Its like raising money to build a non-profit community hospital. Then turn around 5 yrs later and convert it to a private for profit hospital. In that scenario. Every donor would sue .
Her last line "Elon, get some therapy" summarises their viewpoint nicely. They completely missed all the points of the lawsuit and just try to discredit elon's character.
I really like your guy’s Podcast, it’s so interesting , awesome super informative especially in Tech World 🌎 witch I admit I’m pretty illiterate.. so again thanks Kara and Scott ✔️💙
@@bobbybishop5662 if i set up a non profit to build a hospital for my community. You donate $1M towards it. I build the hospital then 5 yrs later i turn it into a Private for-profit Hospital and keep the profits. You'll be okay with that??
@@TheMagicJIZZ the company was found by a group of people. musk been one of a bunch. he was not the one who founded it alone. a few years later he left the company. now the fruits of the company pay off and he seems butthurt that he's not onboard anymore. if this company would still be small but would change direction to profit, i doubt he would even care. but now it's a big player and not doing what he want. he has a point about non profit. but as it seems, there was no contract at all as far as i know. so what. he doesn't even care about contracts of former twitter-staff and refuses to pay them, and now he cares about non-contracts ? if there is a contract: fine. if not, this will lead to nothing but distraction.
You people really haven't gotten into why Ilyus Sutskever and the board did what they did.
Ex board
It's cool that Kara used to like Elon and then clearly changed her mind. I never respected him in the first place and remember sharing the first videos about him being a hack in 2016.
The PETTINESS of being famously wealthy and tech cool but going around destroying anyone else who tries to succeed in the same zone…..
"Who does that sound like?" Indeed, you are right on that one Kara.
I agree with Scott on most issues. However, on OpenAI, if any non-profits can go the same way "raising donations then totally change their goals and turn themselves into a for-profit", how messy that sector is going to be. Is it ok for a gun-control advocating non-profit raising donations then changes itself into Ruger?
People forget neuralink and openAI shared the same office from 2014 to 2019 and were sister organisations
Elons partner the mother of his 3 children shivon zilis ran the openai board From 2015 to 2019 and happens to run neuralink too
Neuralink was founded as an AI company to keep up with AI but in the short term it's a medical company but the AI neuralace was the OG idea
The lack of details about how Microsoft can own 49% of non profit for profit subsidiary witj Microsoft Azure credits avoiding antitrust
When Elon was an angel investor in deepmind and was annoyed when Google bought it but wanted someone to be the next Google without being controlled by Microsoft or Google
It's amazing that you all know exactly what is in Elon's head... This is nothing but mind-reading (which is impossible), speculation and personal opinions...
Doesn't mean you aren't right, but the odds are not with you...
That's a generous take... They keep trying to discredit Elon by calling him a loser and crybaby.. Elon definitely makes mistakes but he hasn't gotten to this point by being the child they claim.
We do not know what goes behind the scene in these high profile companies. The only thing we know is that Ilya is a decent human and a great scientist. Why did he try to remove Sam? No one still knows. So please don't go one level deep into such an important issue.
Its not about bitterness but principle. Open AI was founded as an open source non-profit organization. Its in the name (Open) . Elon put in 44M and Sam offered him shares which he turned down. Those shares will be worth billions of dollars , so the company being a for-profit benefits Elon not hurt him.
Elon has zero shares in OpenAI. How does that help him if and when OpenAI shares go up?
@@wonmoreminute this makes me laugh
There are no shares it's not a company
@@wonmoreminute When Sam sold 50% of openAI to microsoft last yr. Elon made it clear (publicly) that he wasnt happy with that decision and Sam offended him shares in return for his 44M he put up to start openAI. He turned it down because its not about money ,power or "bitterness" . The goal of open AI from the begining was to be open source.
@@TheMagicJIZZ so how did microsoft acquire 50% for 10Billion dollars ?
@@island97 via a for profit subsidiary
Of the non profit owner
These idiots forgot to mention that Sam offered Elon a ton of stock in OpenAI, but Elon refused and demanded Sam open up OpenAI as the company stated. You guys are terrible journalists
How is making OpenAi, open source bad for innovation?
Just because it's not a contract doesn't mean that Elon doesn't have standing.
New records of Elon's own words contradict his whole basis for the lawsuit
@@valetudo1569 Do they? Let's wait for the courts to decide.
If it’s suit for a breach of contract?
@@KK-pm7ud Lol sure, but you can go read them yourself. He was clearly telling them they need to be profitable because they have no chance to compete with google... and by selling to him - he could make it happen. Its right in the face of his alleged lawsuit.... goodluck Musk
Elon musk isn't doing it for money and he's not doing it for power anyone that knows elon would know this he's turned down money plenty of times not to mention he's invested a lot in openai so it's like his child and he cares deeply about it. more importantly what he cares about is helping humanity that has been his number one priority most of his life helping out humanity. if open AI ends up being profit-driven it's only going to cause more inequality. the tools for AI need to be non-profit and open to all so all humanity benefits.
delusion is big on this one.
@@hydrohasspoken6227 empathy and compassion for all have a great life try to remember we are all interconneted
These two podcasters hate Musk and their conclusions are always totally predictable. They have a point that big guys suing small companies is problematic. Still they like all the lawsuits against Trump because he is dangerous. A message geared for the echo chamber
Open Ai isnt a small company here. Its 50% owned by Microsoft which is a $3Trillion company. So they are backing the coperation over open-source ironicly lol
@@island97 True. Without knowing details it seems odd that you can change from not-for-profit to for-profit. Sad Galloway is so political because he is a smart guy, but now he is just harping in an echo bubble
@@123axel123 agreed. Any normal person in Musk position would be pissed. Its like raising money to build a non-profit community hospital. Then turn around 5 yrs later and convert it to a private for profit hospital. In that scenario. Every donor would sue .
Hahaha I see a lot of bitterness coming you both. Nice to see the left is loosing,watching them puts a smile on my face. Thanks 😂
Hard to believe but Musk is doing the right thing here
How is Grok doing?
everytime i see this podcast its taking terrible of elon... hmmm suspicious
Is this just a vent session?
having read the charge sheet, it seems it is you that is delusional
Her last line "Elon, get some therapy" summarises their viewpoint nicely. They completely missed all the points of the lawsuit and just try to discredit elon's character.
Two woke clowns talking about Elon 😅
I really like your guy’s Podcast, it’s so interesting , awesome super informative especially in Tech World 🌎 witch I admit I’m pretty illiterate.. so again thanks Kara and Scott ✔️💙
Elon an innovator he did the same at Tesla he's a Cookcoo and that refers to their nesting habits.
Another pro-Microsoft pro big tech opinion.
And who are you two?
Open Aa?
Woke reporting as usual.
the sourness within the both of you is growing exponentially.
elon is a loser? trump and elon are they same kara swisher?
I hope they counter his ridiculous action and make him pay big time.
Why?
@@island97 Because his claim has no merit.
@@bobbybishop5662it does though
Elon founded it from 2015 to 2020
He named it open ai. He has a point about non profit
@@bobbybishop5662 if i set up a non profit to build a hospital for my community. You donate $1M towards it. I build the hospital then 5 yrs later i turn it into a Private for-profit Hospital and keep the profits. You'll be okay with that??
@@TheMagicJIZZ the company was found by a group of people. musk been one of a bunch. he was not the one who founded it alone. a few years later he left the company. now the fruits of the company pay off and he seems butthurt that he's not onboard anymore. if this company would still be small but would change direction to profit, i doubt he would even care. but now it's a big player and not doing what he want. he has a point about non profit. but as it seems, there was no contract at all as far as i know. so what. he doesn't even care about contracts of former twitter-staff and refuses to pay them, and now he cares about non-contracts ? if there is a contract: fine. if not, this will lead to nothing but distraction.
You guys are littery bitching about someone that is making a difference. You reek of jealousy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Their agenda is clear as day. All emotional hyperbole. No respectful measured analysis.