Same lol. I now only watch shows that have already ended and have reviews saying whether the ending is good or bad. I waited until reviews of El Camino to even think about starting Breaking Bad. I've been burned once with Star Wars, I ain't doing that shit again. It's why I refused to watch Game of Thrones and turns out I was right there too....sadly
@@confusciouspuff1013 See I'm happy with Season 2 being the end. I'm not going back for Season 3. I think Jon Faverau and Dave Filoni made S2's finale that way on purpose so people like me can just jump off before Disney comes to make it crash and burn. S2 had the perfect ending, it's the perfect conclusion to the Skywalker Saga, it wrapped up Mando and Grogu's storyline while adding onto the end of Return of the Jedi with Luke and the New Republic and it even tied into Rebels and the Clone Wars. I got everything I needed out of it; Luke goes on to rebuild the temple in Coruscant with Grogu and the force ghosts, the end. Roll credits
@@rileymachelle4088 But you didn’t need to watch el Camino to watch breaking bad. I’m surprised that it wasn’t everyone else praising the show or how critically acclaimed it was that got you to watch it lol
The guy who played the FBI agent at the end of episode 7 also played a 29th century Starfleet temporal investigator in Voyager. They literally had the opportunity to fix a lot of the show's problems by having the guy be the same temporal investigator who comes to stop Picard from messing up the timeline but the writers are so stupid and incompetent that they immediately threw this opportunity in the trash.
They’d rather introduce another character with a mental health issue. By the way, the pivotal Picard speech at the end of this season will culminate in coming to terms with one’s mental health.
If the writer's are smart enough, he really will be a temporal officer that'll correct things. 3 episodes to redeem themselves...I do not hold hope though...
Didn't a preview or something show stuff about a Vulcan scene on earth? But maybe he's an ancestor of the temporal agent guy, you know because nu-dreg biology means every offspring looks exactly the same as their ancestor.
Another fun fact: The guy who played the therapist/ father is the same guy who played Gaius Balter in a much better sci fi show called BattleStar Galattica.
If anything was clear from season 1, it was clear that Patrick Stewart either forgot or never actually knew who the Jean-Luc Picard character is. But this is why you don't let the main talent write the show
I am not opposed to the main talent to then write the show, BUT they need to be over viewed! Someone needs to reign them and edit things that doesn't fit or can be trimmed. Star Wars episode 1-3 have this same problem, they let George Lucas do whatever he wants without anyone able to say no to him.
No he didn't forget. He just doesn't care. He's always been very different from the character he played, and he's very invested in his opinions that he views this show as means to convey them only. He doesn't care about the Star Trek universe. Like many actors, it was a job.
STP ATM is just a vanity project for Patrick, he wants to get his politics out there and took some notes from Bree Larsons channel and is using Stat Trek as his personal platform LOL ;p
@@joeygang4136 Eh Mark Hamill is a great actor, but he is too unintelligent to write a good story. Though to be fair, he would have written a better story than JJ or RJ, which is what you did say.
Having progressive messaging doesn't mean that anything they write is automatically good writing and above criticism. Those two things are not the same. You can include the most progressive and liberal characters of all time, but still write them badly. (This is in regards to what Joe says around 1:40)
Welcome to what us non progressives have been telling you guys. When you force politics at the expense of story and character development the story is going to be shit everytime.
For a large audience having progressive almost mean its automatic garbage. Good writing is not political propaganda expecially if you are not american and most of it sounds retarded in most of the world.
@@spadesofpaintstudios1719 Old stuff?What are you, 12? You weren't even alive then, yet you think YOU can tell people about Trek they grew up with, 50 years ago?
@@kennethc2466 I literally said people would understand the old stuff so sit back down in you’re corner you crawled out of. Sure I wasn’t alive in 1960 whatever like your ancient self but I did grow up in a house where I watched a lot of older trek especially Star Trek 1-5 and eventually nemesis. Problem with Star Trek now is old fucks like you shit on anyone new, if I was 12 in this Gen I wouldn’t even watch Star Trek now.
Good Star Trek: story approaches a sensitive topic thoughtfully, shows different perspectives on the topic, teaches a lesson without being preachy, uses creative storytelling to make you empathize with characters--even the "bad guy." Bad Star Trek: X is bad. People who are X are bad. Pew pew pew bad guy pew pew pew!
Remarkably if you’d actually watched any of the new treks, you’d understand that that hasn’t been the case once in any season of Discovery or Picard so far.
I paused Episode 7 five times. Five times! It's very difficult to describe how badly written it is. I laughed hysterically because I couldn't believe what I'm watching! Seriously, even the worst TNG Episode is far superior than this garbage. It's sad to see an actor like Patrick Stewart fall so far. I have no idea why the writers are doing this, but it seems like they are actively trying to ruin TNG's legacy. Just unbelievable! I cannot wait to see how Rich and Mike are going to rip this Episode a new one.
They’re doing it because this is a repeating pattern with Hollywood they take a beloved franchise and deform it and bastardize into an abomination for “THE MESSAGE” like critical drinker says lol.
Patrick Stewart didnt fall at all, it's called writers, I can bet my life savings that Patrick Stewart not only didn't wrote this show, he also didnt come up with any of the ideas that the show is going with. Dont put down the only good thing that's from that show, blame the creators who are the ones pushing this trash.
But you bought it thought . they dont care what you think . they care about the money . nothing gonna change unless you fuck with the money . why people dont understand this? you want to check it out ? sure get it from somewhere else like torrent . some product dont deserve supporting . oh you dont like pirating so then continue pay for garbage . im not saying pirate everything that is just bad . all im saying is if they dont care about us lets just get back right at them . at least we dont give them money so this fuckery stop hopefully
But then why watch it friend? As a Star Wars fan, not Disney Star Wars fan, I feel your pain. But when they get views that gives them reason to argue for continuing the show the way it is because "look how many views we have." Just like with hate bait articles, even if you hate them the fact you clicked is what they want so they already won. If we watch their woke bigoted garbage, we give them reason to continue. It's stopping our viewing and paying for their material that'll actually get them to stop.
@@ShadowSonic2 Just like Joe said in the video if you watched it, the message is fine if they don't make it so blatantly obvious as to what they're doing and make the message look so cringy by pushing it so hard
It seems with a lot of these franchises they're changing as much as they can to make it more appealing to a general audience to try and bring in more views. But what the end up doing is just making a product that's so tasteless it appeals to no one.
Funny how when this show uses woke themes/agendas people start crying, but for the past 6 to 10 years no ones batted a eye at video games, comic books/graphic novels, film, radio, youtube, social media, the news doing the same thing...🤔 weird how now it's a issue but wasn't for the last decade. Must suck.
@@anthonygregory6797 yes they have. multiple people have called out woke shit and virtue signalling in movies and other media. the critical drinker in particular has some really good videos on some of these issues, like how in an effort to present women as strong , they make every female character so perfect and flawless and superior to the men that they become shallow and obnoxious.
It’s nice to see Joe expressing his true feelings towards this awful show. It was frustrating watching him hold back his critique of the Halo show. Thank God for Alex’s concise and blunt opinions.
I've always wanted my favorite captain in all of Star Trek to be a mommy boy with daddy issues and childhood trauma instead of a strong, diplomatic, loyal and reliable person with clear stance and view of things...
I have tried so many times over the years to try and get into the mind set of a person who will literally think ANYTHING a franchiese does is perfect, but I just can't do it.
Same here. I love Trek, but only good Trek that tries to stay consistent with the franchise. The mindless drones who will buy anything as long as it has the right logo slaped on it are beyond my comprehension.
lots of those compulsory consumers have a mental defect thats why they wont stop no matter how much the franchise may change. as long as its got the star trek name in the title.
Same man, same. I will never understand those people. Just defend anything and everything in the name of "positivity", no matter how bullshit it is. It sickens me to the core.
Haha, I so hoped you would do a rant to this. My whole family sat in front of the TV and put their WTF faces on for the entirety of those episodes. You are right. The writers don't even care anymore, because they know that their 'progressive ideas' will shield them from any critisim. "What do you mean, bad writing? You are just a right-wing bozo not understanding our amazing creative choices." It's a shame that interweaving an agenda with a popular franchise is more important than creating good stories in the modern media landscape. If I want politics as entertainment I can watch Russian or Chinese state television.
after this ep we came to the conclusion that the showrunners / writers are the people that cry wolf in the name of "progressive" ideas when all they do is push away people. Star Trek SHOULD have progressive ideas, it's set in a utopia for god's sake, but it should be matter of fact and not focal point of the story / characters. My father was really hyped when Picard was announced, he want to see Picard go through the similar issues he did getting old while being a wise advisor to the next generation.
@@NewbOoyNS Exactly. Just create a world where progressive ideas are the accepted norm and endemic to society, like Star Trek has always been. But Klutzman and friends threw the utopian premise of Star Trek out the window to tell platitudes and truisms about current politics, sadly without talent nor effort. You could beam the cast of Big Bang Theory into the future, and they would be more capable Starfleet officers than this bunch of characters, who are more like a group that escaped a psychiatric ward, a drug clinic and a home for the elderly, stole a bus and are now on the loose without knowing what they are doing. Just like the writers. It's barely high school drama club level, no offense to high schoolers.
Actually what made Star Trek progressive was the fact that they would look at both sides of an issue to understand them then come up with a solution or compromise with what they had at hand. It wasn't "progressive" by todays political definition of that term. It was literally trouble shooting and problem solving, which appeals to everyone regardleds of the position on the political spectrum. That's how Star trek was unifying and garnered the cult status it did, until recently of course.
@@kri249 We are talking about different things here. The world in which the stories take place and the stories themselves. The Federation was a near perfect utopia, and Starfleet traveled to places that did not achieve this utopia, showcasing different societal and personal issues. That created a canvas to discuss moral dilemmas on neutral ground. But of course not every episode of Star Trek had a moral lesson. Some were just entertaining, or expanded on personal stories of the crew. Nu Trek is just pandering. The pattern is the same for all the new shows.
I really admire Joe holding onto hope that S3 will be better..not if the writers of this show has anything to say about it. 3 episodes left guys, the trek to this trash fire is almost over.
Just wait for Kore to be revealed as humanity’s savior from climate change. Yes, the corrected augmentation to her genome allows her to withstand the UV rays due to a depleting ozone layer and enhanced lungs to filter out manmade contaminants from the air.
I’m sorry but he’s delusional. Why would another season filmed parallel to this season be any better? It’s going to be a trash fire but with the whole tng cast. Can’t wait….
@@kjellbjrnasmo480 It’s the TNG cast assembled for one scene. Brent Spiner is back for some reason. Maybe he’s playing B4 🤷♂️ There’s really no point of any of this. I just can’t wait for Picard’s season ending speech about coming to terms with one’s mental health.
@@jim405 yeah, a great speech coming up. Next season the old cast probably return to chastise Picard for being a piece of shit , then leave. Hey fans, you want one last adventure with your favorite crew. Some of that good old Star Trek 😀 SYKE! Pranked! And we fall for it every time
@@kjellbjrnasmo480 After absolute candor, depression, paranoid schizophrenia, and nanotechnology induced dissociative disorder, I am looking forward to next season’s theme of family. All that’s missing is Vin Diesel and a case of Corona Extra.
Space exploration and exploring topics about culture, civilization, and philosophy. TNG “Tapestry” was one of the best episodes because it talked about how you shouldn’t waste your life always playing it safe.
They are. The Hollywood left deliberately likes to remind people that these stories and characters are not ours. They belong to the cult. They deliberately took Captain America who usually exemplified American values was usually liked by regular Americans and they turned him into a leftist just to rub in people's faces.
Forgetting that Rich Evans is a gamer.And that Mike isn’t some elitist. And what the hell are you going on about with that last inept attempt at a jab? No nothing know it alls are funny.
Picard writers: "This is for a new generation of fans, not you!" Also Picard writers: "Let's shoe-horn in as many TNG-era characters as possible for nostalgia-bait because we don't have enough confidence in our own ideas!"
Episode one had such a interesting setup. The mortal enemy of the Federation, the Borg, after being nearly defeated has asked for amnesty and peace. What a interesting premise of the Federation having to face the choice of upholding their ideals or ending the Borg once and for all. But all of that THROWN AWAY in lieu of a time travel shit fest.
Time Travel is what the Star Trek writers have always resorted to when they ran out of ideas. "Take our fundamentally better-than-us future humans and put them in the present day and make social commentary!" (Except now the cast is such a damaged, unstable mess that there really isn't any contrast. They fit in perfectly in dystopian 20 mins in the future L.A.) I had a really bad feeling going into this season because of it, and it hasn't done anything to prove me wrong so far.
@@IsilmeTuruphant I think it was also probably due to budget constraints in older trek. Particularly as they had about 20-24 episodes a season, they needed filler episodes. Episodes where they stay in the ship with a day in the life of one of the crew, or the time travel episodes back to our time. Still better than this crap, as you said.
Look it would be better for that to be the focus, but that's because everything else is so poorly written that we're screaming for anything that would make more sense. Imo though, that borg story arc should NEVER happen. The borg's mantra has always been "negotiation is irrelevant". They only negotiate in VOY against 8472 cause janeway corners them into an alliance and they wont get her weapon otherwise. The borg assimilate - they dont cooperate. That's what makes them what they are, and what makes them so terrifying. Of all the ways that they could have re-introduced the borg after VOY, this was not the way it should have been done as it undermines the true nature of the borg and how they've been written previously.
'After every episode, I feel numb'. Then STOP watching it! If you were lactose intolerant (& maybe you are, I don’t know you) but you kept drinking milk knowing it was gonna make you sick, that’s on you.
Perfectly put: "When it is poorly told, it is a detriment to these messages rather than helpful." That's what people who defend these shows and movies don't understand. They're hurting our messages, not helping them.
Exactly, the season’s theme of mental health and its overall impact could have been told quite creatively instead of surface level delves into depression as well as paranoid schizophrenia. All the other plot points are conveyed for the sake of having present day messages other than deeper explorations. The origins of the Confederation having to be that of a mental health issue are not as poignant as let’s say a xenophobic industrialist investing in eugenics.
@@TREBONIANVS I have a co-worker who grew up watching TOS and enjoys Picard. I can’t fathom why but then again his wife is a Scientologist though she hasn’t gone clear.
The big difference now vs older Star Trek is that on shows like TOS, TNG, or DS9 the message/moral was never more important than telling a good story, having a strong plot, and developing interesting and consistent characters. Now everything plot and character related is a distant second (at best) to a specific political message.
I remember that in the documentary "Captains" where William Shatner is interviewing all the main captains from Star Trek (Patrick Stewart, Avery Brooks, Kate Mulgrew, Scott Bakula, and Chris Pine) that Stewart mentioned that he had a very abusive father that would beat his mother in front of him. He lived for years in fear that he would turn into his father so he's had issues dealing with anger in a healthy-way. I think if Stewart has a hand in the writing on this, he probably wanted to put events of episode 7 into the franchise someplace.
I still find it sad the show makers dont understand this show is less progressive than the old one, I dont know how they can not see it. The only good thing I can say is the Borg are super inclusive, who every you are they will assimilate you.
The hilarious thing is that the original was actually progressive, but wasn't trying to lecture viewers. Picard is fake-progressive, and lectures more in one episode than I've heard in my day-to-day life for 25 plus years.
That's why the correct term for these people is "regressives". They are the ones who want to bring back segregation, and to start giving advantages to people based on their skin instead of treating people equally, and start judging and persecuting people by their skin. They are the least accepting people, yet label themselves as progressive in order to claim the high road. This is why everything in media turns to shit when they add "modern" progressive politics. They will ruin everything and claim anyone who doesnt like it as racist sexist etc etc etc.
I just watched the TNG episode "Half a life." It was basically a morality tale/thought experiment about euthanasia. The story was a little forced, and it focused on Lwaxana Troi (who's good as a riposte again Picard, but little else). However, the plot still gave credit to both sides of the argument. Neither was written as obviously the "right position" and Lwaxana ultimately had to face the reality that she couldn't force an entire culture to change its beliefs just by throwing a fit. The episode wasn't fantastic, but it was way better than this trash.
If they had randomly remade that episode scene-for-scene in Star Trek Picard, it would be considered the BEST episode that’s come out in both seasons. That’s how pathetic this show is
What makes it science fiction is that the alien society can add credence to the argument that you should only live to 30 because it's an alien idea. If it were on Earth, that argument probably wouldn't hold very well and there would be no drama, or anything interesting in the episode. ST Picard could have had a whole episode about families and misunderstandings and guilt or whatever. Instead, it's just some stupid dream that has really nothing to do with the plot.
@@valueofnothing2487 not only does it have nothing to do with the plot, (other than maybe at most being the reason why picard had the random memories of his mum at the start of ep 1. if they dont also tie her into the borg plot or something stupid. but on top of that, the dream is completely unmotivated. she has to go into his dreams because he got hit by a car? yeah right. If that doesnt smack of "i want to do an episode were picard fixes his repressed memories inside his own head, how can i make him unconscious for an episode? BOOM CAR HITS PICARD"
Was a great episode for Lwaxana who was usually a stereotypical 'sitcom' type character inserted into Star Trek. Majel Barret did a really good job 'acting on top of acting' by showing Lwaxana's wacky man-chasing is like a fun game for her, until in this ep where it became too real. Her emotions at the end of the episode were really 'earned' and really helped elevate her character who was normally comic relief.
I recently rewatched some of deep space 9, such a masterpiece of a show, its such a shame how bad Star Trek has got with this and discovery been so far from what Star Trek is, I have stopped watching the new shows.
I recently re-watched that too. The first seasons are pretty bad( a lot of tv sci fi shows were back in the 90s when they were trying to establish themselves) Modern tv shows have more time to prepare between episodes , bigger budgets, and fewer episodes per series so have very little excuse for poor writing. Having said that, DS9 still had some good episodes in the first few seasons and the last couple of seasons with the Dominion war was an excellent arc. You aged YNG and ENT also put modern trek to shame. Babalyon 5 was even better in seasons 3-4. Not to mention Farscape and Stargate. Quality shows.
For anyone who’s still upset with Alex Kurtzman, there’s an episode of Hercules: The Legendary Journeys set in the modern day where Ted Raimi portrays Kurtzman as a useless idiot who can’t write anything good to save his life. He’s portrayed as living in a closet inside the studio with Roberto Orci, and it’s literally hilarious how accurate it is
They watched the orville...I think they did a review on season 1 or both seasons...I don't remember that was 3-4 years ago. Thank god season 3 is coming out this summer.
Does anyone else only know about this show through RLM & AJ? I'd never actually watch this trash, but I love seeing them suffer hehe also Alex is amazing ❤
1:51 This concept is exactly what BLM/lgbtq/feminism etc movements are - all real issues that our 2 corporate parties co opt and corrupt so they don't work and we stay divided. The very language we use to talk about these things are from the corporate media. The establishment baits us to fight each other over social cultural issues without realizing both parties are the same thing, both dividing us. The democratic party's policies are just as 'racist' or anti-lgbtq as the republican one because they're the same economic policies. If your movement is connected to the democratic party it is corrupt, end of story. you've buddied up with the enemy. this woke stuff will never end and only get worse (as it is) until we firmly grasp both parties are the same thing tricking us.
The Critical Drinker has given up and when the Drinker gives up and no longer following this season of Picard for his take, that tells you. It's a final acceptance that the series we were fans of are now more of a vehicle for their agenda and "The message"
As a huge Halo and Star Trek fan I'm sorry to see Joe like this after watching these shows knowing he's also a huge fan of these universes. On the other hand, it's funny as hell seeing the faces on Alex and Other Joe knowing the pure anger and red that's about to be unleashed. 🤣🤣🤣
This show is confusing AF especially after visiting an alternate timeline and then traveling back in time to the present! Coupled with a weekly release. My understanding is: -Data is not data -Soji is not Soji -Vash is not Vash -Guinan is Guinan except when not Guinan is Guinan -Picard is Picard except he is actually a Synthetic -Jurati is Jurati but also the borg Queen -Raffi is just an imposter (I refuse to believe she is a star fleet officer!)
Yeah man DS9 was way better than any of the other shows. Star Trek with consequences. I love TNG but nothing they ever did had any consequence outside of the borg. In DS9, everything comes back and bites them in the ass. Just can’t fly away after fucking shit up all over the galaxy.
DS9 is by far my favourite Star Trek series. So many strong characters, Quark, Bashir, Garak! I honestly can't think of a single character I didn't care about.
AJ makes an important point early on: Star Trek: Picard isn't bad because of its progressive messages. It's a bad show that happens to have progressive messages. That might allow it to win over some stupid people, but as AJ is demonstrating, anyone with half a brain is able to see past pandering. It's kind of similar to the God is Not Dead movies. They're terrible movies in all aspects and they are very deliberately pushing a conservative Christian world view, but those movies are not bad BECAUSE of their conservative worldview. They are bad because the characters are terribly written, the stories are bad and the blatant pandering is farcical. Just like with Star Trek: Picard, there is no depth to the antagonists, they're just strawmen caricatures of whoever the writers have a beef with. Complex issues that are divisive deserve more thought put in to them. One relatively recent good example of this is an episode of The Orville. One of the crewmembers belong to an all-male race and his husband is onboard the ship. They have a child together who turns out to be female, which is a rare genetic disorder amongst their race and it can be easily "treated" by turning the child into a male through surgery/medical attention. I won't bring up the details, but some moral issues are brought up that can be said to represent the left-right spectrum of the political compass and even though Seth MacFarlane is clearly a progressive, the episode ends with what could essentially be considered the conservative option having been taken but it is done in a reasonable way. The episode is kind of a metaphor for trans issues and body dysphoria in general, but the topic is treated with respect where both sides are shown to have valid points that serve as the basis of their opinion.
I'm currently partway through watching Ep 6, got to the start of the song...paused, looked for any Picard review video to see if I'm alone. Within 20 seconds: VINDICATION!
I'm a huge Star Trek Next Generation (STNG) fan and I've never watched an episode of Picard. I feel about STNG and Picard the same way I feel about the original Star Wars movies and subsequent films - that each of the former represents lightning in a bottle. I don't necessarily mean that the original creations were superior in every way, but more that they were point-in-time creations that cannot be easily simply 'followed up', especially not many, many years later. Personally, I would have much preferred if Patrick Stewart had NOT agreed to do Picard. I think the 7 seasons of STNG and the fortuitious multiple films were more than good enough a send-off for the show and it's characters and nothing can stop us as fans from continuing to re-visit those creations years later. Instead, to go ahead and make Picard was to bring only a tiny portion of what was enjoyable about STNG and place it within a modern creation with only the thinnest of STNG trappings. I'm completely ignoring the well-publicised final episode(s)? featuring much of the STNG cast - to me, that's the fan service and while it might make some of us happy (again, I've never seen an episode of Picard); it also reminds of the sheer passage of time and the distance. I'm quite protective of my idols and the creative works of the past. I don't think they can ever be easily revisited without bringing large amounts of our modern 'take' on things with us, creating a break between the world we loved and the world we try to recreate. Of course, allied with the desire for fan service is the money-making machine of Hollywood and so it is highly unlikely that we'll see a stop to the revisiting of history any time soon. However, we can always choose to ignore attempts at plumbing our memories for money.
Oh, boy. You know this is gonna be a fucking wild review when the words "THIS ISN'T STAR TREK" pops into your feed. I'd like to remind you all that Star Trek is very progressive by nature, and that the worst thing this show does (like many other hacks in Hollywood) is misappropriate a lot of the progressive ideals under the pretense of progressiveness for the sake of brownie points and good PR; these corporations never, ever care about minorities like they say they do, and they're free to discriminate and rob them with the same hand they seek to fetishize them - not to mention it often pushing people to discrimination, because these talentless morons don't at all understand what made Star Trek great - and I say that as somebody who isn't a Trekkie by birth. Anyways, great review, Angry Joe! Keep fighting the good fight like you usually do!
@@nathanielchieffallo4273 Sad part is, this is exactly the mentality. Especially Activision-Blizzard, abusing and harassing female, PoC, and LGBTQ+ employees while having the nerve to fetishize them.
@@nathanielchieffallo4273 More like "Please tax and regulate my obscenely wealthy boss in ways the make him remain a societal oligarch while squelching any competition."
Best example of something woke that was good that I can think of is Arcane, had representation and tackle subjects like inequality without being blatant.
I really appreciate Angry Joe's, Other Joe's and Alex's sticklers attitude for quality entertainment. It seems to be a big ask these days and these guys definitely don't let it slide (& Alex really knows his sh!t, reference wise)
Ayy, Joe finally got the reaction I have had for every single episode of Picard ever made! Only took 2 seasons! This show is a trash fire of outrageously terrible writing that is basically vandalizing the memory of TNG and all of Star Trek. Stewart is a woke shill activist and has always been one. The only difference between now and TNG-era was that in the TNG era, he was still coherent enough to be a fantastic actor, and he was never given story control. The show didnt GET this bad. Its been this bad. Since Season 1 Episode 1. This is the reason that you dont let talentless activists write your show. Someone who is talented is capable of keeping their politics and their job separate.
I wanted to love this show (Picard) so much because I know my father would have watched it without hesitation and so I did in his place. The utter disappointment I have in this show is enough for my father and I. Sorry, Dad.
@@117MasterSpartan Because in some weirdo way I'd love to think my dad was sitting down watching it with me and was also just as disappointed and I needed to apologize for putting him through that. lol
Try being right leaning and being subjected to this garbage. I wouldn't consider the messages this show is trying to ram down your throat as "progressive" at all. It's 100% regressive shit. The progressive messages from old school star trek were absolutely great. They were relevant and aimed at bringing people together. The new show is very divisive and it sucks.
For dropping the com-badge, it might've been intentional. He wanted to leave a "trail" for someone to find and dropped it intentionally? Perhaps so that law-enforcement couldn't confiscate it? But that would be very far-fetched, since alternatively he could just keep it near him, eventually law-enforcement would search him and confiscate it but then the rest of the crew would know where the Badge ended up. Immediately linking their location. but ya....
Interesting characters and their chemistry is what makes a show and when I compare Picard or Discovery to DS9, the other Star Trek that commonly dealt in dark themes...there just isn't any comparison. Nothing in either modern show can hold a candle to the characters of DS9 and their relationships. The scenes of DS9 were so well crafted as well and they knew how to punctuate the serious tone with moments of levity.
@@vinnyc.1265 Do I really need to watch it to know it's crap? All these shows have been garbage for years. Reviews are just better and funnier to watch and also, shorter.
They may have to go back and play Halo 3, read Percy Jackson (because why give JKR any more attention?), and watch TNG. There aren’t very many good Hollywood film and tv projects anymore, at least Better Call Saul is coming.
There was a very specific formula to 80s & 90s Trek that appealed to me. The episodic storytelling. The episodes that focused on one specific member of the crew so you could get to know them better. The multi-episode stories felt like a treat. The episodes that focused on 2 crew members bonding. The episodes that fleshed out the lore of an alien species. The way episodes panned back & forth between the chill laid-back humdrum every in space to intense crisis situations. The episodes that explored new planets. Admittedly back in the day I disliked most holodeck episodes but now I see them as the future's version of a couple of friends playing a video game for a little escapism. I also really liked the architecture of the ships & how they weren't a dreary metal grey. Each episode could be a completely different genre: Slice of life, horror, comedy, adventure, romance. Star Trek was a stress relief show. The characters were usually cheerful. In Picard, everyone seems high-strung & angry at all times. This is not the mood I'm looking for.
Everything we've seen about this Q species could be drilled down to 2 words: Superiority Complex. Could anyone seriously imagine that any Q we've ever seen in ST would EVER respond to some bizarre ritualistic summons? Like they're some genie in a bottle waiting for someone to summon them forth for any reason, whatsoever. God is this show dumb...
Woke shows are bad. Not because of what they convey but because it's used as a crutch. It's the same reason most religious shows are bad. When the message is all that matters the quality of the stuff around it is left to rot.
thats not a coincidence, being "woke", being "progressive", its all just a replacement for religion. its ideologies not based in reality, but based on feelings. and if you dont believe the same youre a bad person.
Star Wars, Game of Thrones, The Last of Us, Terminator and now Star Trek... Our favourite characters and stories are being brought back then slowly murdered one by one and their corpses are being pissed on. Why 🥺 How does the sequel to Karate Kid; Cobra Kai have better writing and an understanding of how to properly pay tribute to the original characters while introducing new characters that are just as interesting and help build up the old ones than all of those? I feel like I'm living in an alternate timeline. What is going on
@@nekhrunoblivion We get a FEW good ones that do it right....but every other franchise just somehow can't afford good writers. There are so many good writers who are fans that would do that shit for FREE. But instead we get Alex Kurtsman
Something that bothers me most about this whole Rene thing....is that Picard said in TNG (more than once IIRC), that he was the first Picard to go to space. So this is just more of Kurtzman ignoring canon to do whatever he wants.
The longer your recap went, the more memory flashes I got. The feeling I have seen moments of this show before. And I did. In other Star Trek shows and movies. Throwing the communicator reminded me of Bones loosing his communicator on that one gangster planet and so on. So many moments we have seen before and I dear I know what it going on. They are preparing the 'but the other Star Trek shows and movies have done this' before. And if they bring up this defence? Ask them if they are still wearing diapers, because chances are we all have worn diapers as babies. Because obviously we can't learn from past mistakes. We can't learn from our parents. We can't learn period. We don't grow up, ergo, the writers of this show are still wearing diapers. If someone brings up this defence like they have done in the past.
When I heard Patrick Steward was going to be writing this series < I knew it was going to be bad. He is good actor but sci fi writer nope. I've seen a lot of his interviews , he is a thespian .
The last time Patrick Stewart had creative control was in Nemesis. He's the reason why they had that buggy chase. Patrick Stewart loves driving dune buggies so they put that whole sequence in to make him happy.
TNG was ACTUALLY progressive. TNG existed in a time when the media wasn't in full exploitation mode regarding the LGBT, third and fourth-wave Feminism. Advertising saw a massive collective dollar sign over the heads of these people starting in the mid 90's. It's sad because again, you can see where OG Trek and TNG were ACTUALLY progressive. Nevermind all of this "I won't take handout from a man to further advance my position because men are the ultimate evil". I just watched an episode of Santa's Inc the other day 🤨.. I'm reg Independent and see myself as relatively progressive so when I say that Santa's Inc highlights everything wrong with the industry's regressive issue concerning misandry you can take that to the bank.
I deal with politics everyday of my life, when I watch Star Trek I do so for entertainment and escapism - not to be preached to by left-leaning ideologues who wouldn't know how to write a good star trek story if it landed in their lap. I am done with modern woke trek.
Going head-on against the accusations and affirming his agreement with the messages of the shows, but not the implementation/execution. Nuance people! 🤓
Mecha Picard- "There!" *Judo chops bad guy* "Are!" *Tornado kicks 2nd bad guy* "Four!" *Double-fist punches 3rd bad guy* "Lights!" *Road House throat kills last bad guy*
@@Uksis He definitely is a gift shop’s poster equivalent of an artful approximation. Symbolically the producers and writers have used paint thinner to strip away anything resembling Trek. I’d take Mr. Bean as showrunner
Angry joe: “I am a progressive!” Twitter babies: “No you’re not! If you disagree with us you’re the enemy! You nazi!” Also Joe and us: “We just want the real freakin Star Trek!!” Also Twitter: “Reeeeeeeeeeee!!!”
@@ge2719 It's a fact, though. As soon as they cross illegally they've committed a crime. Why would anyone deny that? I'm a legal immigrant so maybe I'm biased, though
Your reviews of the show are more entertaining than the actual show. Also, I love that Alex t-shirt but I love Alex. He should write Picard, it’s terrible. I hated that therapy session, I hated the scenes with Rios, the Borg scene was stupid. It’s sad what they’ve done with my beloved Captain Picard.
Honestly, the 3 of you are fucking amazing. Love your back and forth conversations and chemistry. I’m not even watching this show and still I enjoy listening to you
These people lecture you struggling working people on morale sensibilities from mansions given to them by Mommy and Daddy while you pay for the upkeep. Just unplug the crap.
All they had to do, since season 1, was make this a follow up to TNG. Each episode its own thing just like the old days. Bring back as many of the old cast as possible including DSN and Voyager including writers from each show. It would of done so well.
They take Jean Luc Picard to the clinic and somehow believe that a doctor in human physiology, who is also not supposed to know he's synthetic, is able to fix him? Yeah...
lol. I could instantly see you were enraged. OJ "Yaaaay I can take this shirt off at last" haha Star Trek as we knew it is dead. I had made my peace with it after the first Chris pine film.
As a long time Trek fan I actually enjoyed that movie, it was pretty "modern" but still pretty fun. That was the last time we got something at least remotely enjoyable from the franchise, everything they've farted out since has been unwatchable.
Still trying to figure how Borg Jurati is going to be on the Statgrazer with "normal" Jurati if this is the same timeline. But then I remember that the writers seem to just make up whatever is needed at any given episode and hope most viewers don't notice or care...they are wrong.
The Picard thumbnails of both RLM and AngryJoe have progressively gotten more nightmarish.
Just like the show.
You aren't doing your job as a reviewer if you haven't been blocked by Paramount/CBS on Twitter.
Yeah, well...makes sense, this is not Star Trek.
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Rlm? I don't know what it means:/
I hardly watch 90% of shows nowadays because seeing angry reviews of them by Angry Joe and other content creators is so much more entertaining.
Me too. I like to watch Star trek Picard through Angry Joe's reviews.
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Same lol. I now only watch shows that have already ended and have reviews saying whether the ending is good or bad. I waited until reviews of El Camino to even think about starting Breaking Bad.
I've been burned once with Star Wars, I ain't doing that shit again. It's why I refused to watch Game of Thrones and turns out I was right there too....sadly
@@confusciouspuff1013 See I'm happy with Season 2 being the end. I'm not going back for Season 3. I think Jon Faverau and Dave Filoni made S2's finale that way on purpose so people like me can just jump off before Disney comes to make it crash and burn.
S2 had the perfect ending, it's the perfect conclusion to the Skywalker Saga, it wrapped up Mando and Grogu's storyline while adding onto the end of Return of the Jedi with Luke and the New Republic and it even tied into Rebels and the Clone Wars. I got everything I needed out of it; Luke goes on to rebuild the temple in Coruscant with Grogu and the force ghosts, the end. Roll credits
@@rileymachelle4088 But you didn’t need to watch el Camino to watch breaking bad. I’m surprised that it wasn’t everyone else praising the show or how critically acclaimed it was that got you to watch it lol
I miss Star Trek that used to make me think instead of telling me what to think!
EXACTLY
Well said.
This
Sadly when we lost Roddenberry we lost that important aspect as well
Bingo!
well said
The guy who played the FBI agent at the end of episode 7 also played a 29th century Starfleet temporal investigator in Voyager. They literally had the opportunity to fix a lot of the show's problems by having the guy be the same temporal investigator who comes to stop Picard from messing up the timeline but the writers are so stupid and incompetent that they immediately threw this opportunity in the trash.
They’d rather introduce another character with a mental health issue. By the way, the pivotal Picard speech at the end of this season will culminate in coming to terms with one’s mental health.
If the writer's are smart enough, he really will be a temporal officer that'll correct things. 3 episodes to redeem themselves...I do not hold hope though...
Didn't a preview or something show stuff about a Vulcan scene on earth? But maybe he's an ancestor of the temporal agent guy, you know because nu-dreg biology means every offspring looks exactly the same as their ancestor.
Another fun fact: The guy who played the therapist/ father is the same guy who played Gaius Balter in a much better sci fi show called BattleStar Galattica.
@@makasete30 You don't say.
If anything was clear from season 1, it was clear that Patrick Stewart either forgot or never actually knew who the Jean-Luc Picard character is.
But this is why you don't let the main talent write the show
I am not opposed to the main talent to then write the show, BUT they need to be over viewed! Someone needs to reign them and edit things that doesn't fit or can be trimmed.
Star Wars episode 1-3 have this same problem, they let George Lucas do whatever he wants without anyone able to say no to him.
No he didn't forget. He just doesn't care. He's always been very different from the character he played, and he's very invested in his opinions that he views this show as means to convey them only. He doesn't care about the Star Trek universe. Like many actors, it was a job.
STP ATM is just a vanity project for Patrick, he wants to get his politics out there and took some notes from Bree Larsons channel and is using Stat Trek as his personal platform LOL ;p
Mark Hamill would've written a better sequel trilogy than Abrams and that other hobbit which name I forgot.
@@joeygang4136 Eh Mark Hamill is a great actor, but he is too unintelligent to write a good story. Though to be fair, he would have written a better story than JJ or RJ, which is what you did say.
Alex roasting the writers is always the best part.
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Because he always gives an objective critique that makes logical sense
Alex is AWESOME!
@@marekjanik9962 and his vocabulary is very funny lol
I've honestly become a huge Alex fan lol I always look forward to what he says almost more then joe hahaha
Having progressive messaging doesn't mean that anything they write is automatically good writing and above criticism. Those two things are not the same. You can include the most progressive and liberal characters of all time, but still write them badly. (This is in regards to what Joe says around 1:40)
Welcome to what us non progressives have been telling you guys. When you force politics at the expense of story and character development the story is going to be shit everytime.
For a large audience having progressive almost mean its automatic garbage.
Good writing is not political propaganda expecially if you are not american and most of it sounds retarded in most of the world.
I want people to start looking at the reply number, then counting the replies they can see
What is going on with the reply system? Susan just hiding replies now?
@@sleepykittyH for real
The real way to enjoy the show is to
-Skip purchasing the permission to watch the show.
-Skip watching the show.
-Watch the angryreviews instead.
I didn't watch a single episodes of Picard, even when I pirated the first season, but I enjoyed Joe's rant .
- Watch the RLM recaps too
Correct, I actually stopped watching after episode 2 and have given up on it at this point. The angry reviews will suffice :D
This.
@@dirty_mike I got through s1, e3. It was too much.
As a former star wars fan, my condolences to all star trek fans out there.
Same it’s a definite rip now people will never ever understand the old stuff now
Star Wars is nowhere near the level of destruction Star Trek is.
Why, no one came into my house and took my TOS and TNG movies and shows?
@@spadesofpaintstudios1719 Old stuff?What are you, 12? You weren't even alive then, yet you think YOU can tell people about Trek they grew up with, 50 years ago?
@@kennethc2466 I literally said people would understand the old stuff so sit back down in you’re corner you crawled out of. Sure I wasn’t alive in 1960 whatever like your ancient self but I did grow up in a house where I watched a lot of older trek especially Star Trek 1-5 and eventually nemesis. Problem with Star Trek now is old fucks like you shit on anyone new, if I was 12 in this Gen I wouldn’t even watch Star Trek now.
Good Star Trek: story approaches a sensitive topic thoughtfully, shows different perspectives on the topic, teaches a lesson without being preachy, uses creative storytelling to make you empathize with characters--even the "bad guy."
Bad Star Trek: X is bad. People who are X are bad. Pew pew pew bad guy pew pew pew!
killing bad guy is good! pew pew!
@Nicholas Millington a few episodes were…. Not every single one. If you think TNG was as preachy as this you never watched TNG
Remarkably if you’d actually watched any of the new treks, you’d understand that that hasn’t been the case once in any season of Discovery or Picard so far.
I paused Episode 7 five times. Five times!
It's very difficult to describe how badly written it is. I laughed hysterically because I couldn't believe what I'm watching!
Seriously, even the worst TNG Episode is far superior than this garbage.
It's sad to see an actor like Patrick Stewart fall so far. I have no idea why the writers are doing this, but it seems like they are actively trying to ruin TNG's legacy. Just unbelievable!
I cannot wait to see how Rich and Mike are going to rip this Episode a new one.
They’re doing it because this is a repeating pattern with Hollywood they take a beloved franchise and deform it and bastardize into an abomination for “THE MESSAGE” like critical drinker says lol.
Patrick Stewart didnt fall at all, it's called writers, I can bet my life savings that Patrick Stewart not only didn't wrote this show, he also didnt come up with any of the ideas that the show is going with. Dont put down the only good thing that's from that show, blame the creators who are the ones pushing this trash.
I just fast forwarded through most of the dream stuff it was so terrible.
But you bought it thought . they dont care what you think . they care about the money . nothing gonna change unless you fuck with the money . why people dont understand this? you want to check it out ? sure get it from somewhere else like torrent . some product dont deserve supporting . oh you dont like pirating so then continue pay for garbage . im not saying pirate everything that is just bad . all im saying is if they dont care about us lets just get back right at them . at least we dont give them money so this fuckery stop hopefully
But then why watch it friend? As a Star Wars fan, not Disney Star Wars fan, I feel your pain. But when they get views that gives them reason to argue for continuing the show the way it is because "look how many views we have." Just like with hate bait articles, even if you hate them the fact you clicked is what they want so they already won. If we watch their woke bigoted garbage, we give them reason to continue. It's stopping our viewing and paying for their material that'll actually get them to stop.
Joe's right...the people who wrote this show _never_ saw an episode of TNG 😬
They don't care about TNG. All that matters is the continuous promotion of "the message"
Nah they watched it alright... And then decided they hated everything that made it good.
@@FactoryDan You do realize Trek has always been about "The message"?
@@ShadowSonic2 Just like Joe said in the video if you watched it, the message is fine if they don't make it so blatantly obvious as to what they're doing and make the message look so cringy by pushing it so hard
@@FactoryDan Trek always did that, especially in TOS.
It seems with a lot of these franchises they're changing as much as they can to make it more appealing to a general audience to try and bring in more views. But what the end up doing is just making a product that's so tasteless it appeals to no one.
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Oh you mean, to quote Jim Sterling : "the mythical CASUALIZATION"? :P
They don't realize that what makes these shows great is how *different* they are.
Funny how when this show uses woke themes/agendas people start crying, but for the past 6 to 10 years no ones batted a eye at video games, comic books/graphic novels, film, radio, youtube, social media, the news doing the same thing...🤔 weird how now it's a issue but wasn't for the last decade. Must suck.
@@anthonygregory6797 yes they have. multiple people have called out woke shit and virtue signalling in movies and other media. the critical drinker in particular has some really good videos on some of these issues, like how in an effort to present women as strong , they make every female character so perfect and flawless and superior to the men that they become shallow and obnoxious.
It’s nice to see Joe expressing his true feelings towards this awful show. It was frustrating watching him hold back his critique of the Halo show. Thank God for Alex’s concise and blunt opinions.
“Depression is bad, m’kay”
Wow thank you writers of Star Trek Picard, what a profound hot take.
Yeah but depression in Trek is REAL bad. It made Picard’s 90 year old mother kill herself at 30.
I've always wanted my favorite captain in all of Star Trek to be a mommy boy with daddy issues and childhood trauma instead of a strong, diplomatic, loyal and reliable person with clear stance and view of things...
He’s so stunning and brave
Season 2 (imo) started out so promising, but holy hell have things been laughably bad after the 2nd episode....what a supreme disappointment
First two episodes were fantastic! A plucky adventure with no side stories. Love it...but now...we have been drug to the sewer
Come on, you could have predicted this after the first trailer came out. Time Travel again? Really?
This was written by Akiva Goldsman who wrote Batman and Robin. There was no way it wasn't going to be an unmitigated disaster.
The first 2 episodes were a massive bait and switch. We thought we were getting a cool space adventure but nope.
Yeah, i had very high hopes after seeing the first two episodes...but now........sigh.
I have tried so many times over the years to try and get into the mind set of a person who will literally think ANYTHING a franchiese does is perfect, but I just can't do it.
Same here. I love Trek, but only good Trek that tries to stay consistent with the franchise. The mindless drones who will buy anything as long as it has the right logo slaped on it are beyond my comprehension.
lots of those compulsory consumers have a mental defect thats why they wont stop no matter how much the franchise may change. as long as its got the star trek name in the title.
@@Cipher_Agent The same sort of people who buy 'supreme' brand bricks.
Same man, same. I will never understand those people. Just defend anything and everything in the name of "positivity", no matter how bullshit it is. It sickens me to the core.
Marvel and Star Wars fans look up nervously: heeeeeeey!
Haha, I so hoped you would do a rant to this. My whole family sat in front of the TV and put their WTF faces on for the entirety of those episodes.
You are right. The writers don't even care anymore, because they know that their 'progressive ideas' will shield them from any critisim. "What do you mean, bad writing? You are just a right-wing bozo not understanding our amazing creative choices."
It's a shame that interweaving an agenda with a popular franchise is more important than creating good stories in the modern media landscape.
If I want politics as entertainment I can watch Russian or Chinese state television.
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after this ep we came to the conclusion that the showrunners / writers are the people that cry wolf in the name of "progressive" ideas when all they do is push away people. Star Trek SHOULD have progressive ideas, it's set in a utopia for god's sake, but it should be matter of fact and not focal point of the story / characters. My father was really hyped when Picard was announced, he want to see Picard go through the similar issues he did getting old while being a wise advisor to the next generation.
@@NewbOoyNS Exactly. Just create a world where progressive ideas are the accepted norm and endemic to society, like Star Trek has always been.
But Klutzman and friends threw the utopian premise of Star Trek out the window to tell platitudes and truisms about current politics, sadly without talent nor effort.
You could beam the cast of Big Bang Theory into the future, and they would be more capable Starfleet officers than this bunch of characters, who are more like a group that escaped a psychiatric ward, a drug clinic and a home for the elderly, stole a bus and are now on the loose without knowing what they are doing.
Just like the writers. It's barely high school drama club level, no offense to high schoolers.
Actually what made Star Trek progressive was the fact that they would look at both sides of an issue to understand them then come up with a solution or compromise with what they had at hand.
It wasn't "progressive" by todays political definition of that term. It was literally trouble shooting and problem solving, which appeals to everyone regardleds of the position on the political spectrum. That's how Star trek was unifying and garnered the cult status it did, until recently of course.
@@kri249 We are talking about different things here. The world in which the stories take place and the stories themselves. The Federation was a near perfect utopia, and Starfleet traveled to places that did not achieve this utopia, showcasing different societal and personal issues. That created a canvas to discuss moral dilemmas on neutral ground. But of course not every episode of Star Trek had a moral lesson. Some were just entertaining, or expanded on personal stories of the crew.
Nu Trek is just pandering. The pattern is the same for all the new shows.
I really admire Joe holding onto hope that S3 will be better..not if the writers of this show has anything to say about it. 3 episodes left guys, the trek to this trash fire is almost over.
Just wait for Kore to be revealed as humanity’s savior from climate change. Yes, the corrected augmentation to her genome allows her to withstand the UV rays due to a depleting ozone layer and enhanced lungs to filter out manmade contaminants from the air.
I’m sorry but he’s delusional. Why would another season filmed parallel to this season be any better? It’s going to be a trash fire but with the whole tng cast. Can’t wait….
@@kjellbjrnasmo480 It’s the TNG cast assembled for one scene. Brent Spiner is back for some reason. Maybe he’s playing B4 🤷♂️ There’s really no point of any of this. I just can’t wait for Picard’s season ending speech about coming to terms with one’s mental health.
@@jim405 yeah, a great speech coming up. Next season the old cast probably return to chastise Picard for being a piece of shit , then leave. Hey fans, you want one last adventure with your favorite crew. Some of that good old Star Trek 😀 SYKE! Pranked! And we fall for it every time
@@kjellbjrnasmo480 After absolute candor, depression, paranoid schizophrenia, and nanotechnology induced dissociative disorder, I am looking forward to next season’s theme of family. All that’s missing is Vin Diesel and a case of Corona Extra.
The next star trek after enterprise was the Orville. So far that's it.
I can't wait for the new season of Orville.
Prodigy and Lower Decks actually are Star Trek shows
Lower Decks is a ST show.
@@whom382 it’s ok, but I don’t find it amazing.
Remember when this show was about space exploration?
Space exploration and exploring topics about culture, civilization, and philosophy. TNG “Tapestry” was one of the best episodes because it talked about how you shouldn’t waste your life always playing it safe.
Not since JJ took over in 2008...
@@vjfxtheory The first original Star Trek was pretty based. Kirk was quite similar to Trump.
@@HeavyMetal-jy4vj Even JJ's movies are better than this crap.
@@DragonKnightX12 Not to mention that at least they had a likeable cast led by Chris Pine, which none of these new live action _Trek_ shows have.
It’s almost as if the writers are intentionally giving the finger to Star Trek fans.
They are. The Hollywood left deliberately likes to remind people that these stories and characters are not ours. They belong to the cult. They deliberately took Captain America who usually exemplified American values was usually liked by regular Americans and they turned him into a leftist just to rub in people's faces.
I want an RLM + AngryJoe end of season collaboration!! Two hours long, and they all get increasingly drunk.
It would remind me of that sweet magic created for their Man of Steel review.
They should not be allowed alcohol, it would numb the pain.
Forgetting that Rich Evans is a gamer.And that Mike isn’t some elitist. And what the hell are you going on about with that last inept attempt at a jab?
No nothing know it alls are funny.
Picard writers: "This is for a new generation of fans, not you!"
Also Picard writers: "Let's shoe-horn in as many TNG-era characters as possible for nostalgia-bait because we don't have enough confidence in our own ideas!"
to be fair, that's just how Hollywood has worked for the past decade... hardly unique to Picard or Kurtzman era Trek
@@MedalionDS9 I'm part of the problem too as I still watch them all, hoping for the best...
Episode one had such a interesting setup. The mortal enemy of the Federation, the Borg, after being nearly defeated has asked for amnesty and peace. What a interesting premise of the Federation having to face the choice of upholding their ideals or ending the Borg once and for all. But all of that THROWN AWAY in lieu of a time travel shit fest.
Time Travel is what the Star Trek writers have always resorted to when they ran out of ideas.
"Take our fundamentally better-than-us future humans and put them in the present day and make social commentary!" (Except now the cast is such a damaged, unstable mess that there really isn't any contrast. They fit in perfectly in dystopian 20 mins in the future L.A.)
I had a really bad feeling going into this season because of it, and it hasn't done anything to prove me wrong so far.
Subversion of expectations.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
@@IsilmeTuruphant I think it was also probably due to budget constraints in older trek.
Particularly as they had about 20-24 episodes a season, they needed filler episodes. Episodes where they stay in the ship with a day in the life of one of the crew, or the time travel episodes back to our time.
Still better than this crap, as you said.
Look it would be better for that to be the focus, but that's because everything else is so poorly written that we're screaming for anything that would make more sense. Imo though, that borg story arc should NEVER happen. The borg's mantra has always been "negotiation is irrelevant". They only negotiate in VOY against 8472 cause janeway corners them into an alliance and they wont get her weapon otherwise. The borg assimilate - they dont cooperate. That's what makes them what they are, and what makes them so terrifying.
Of all the ways that they could have re-introduced the borg after VOY, this was not the way it should have been done as it undermines the true nature of the borg and how they've been written previously.
After every episode, I feel numb. At the same time, I feel joy in knowing you're reviews is right around the corner
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'After every episode, I feel numb'. Then STOP watching it! If you were lactose intolerant (& maybe you are, I don’t know you) but you kept drinking milk knowing it was gonna make you sick, that’s on you.
Perfectly put: "When it is poorly told, it is a detriment to these messages rather than helpful." That's what people who defend these shows and movies don't understand. They're hurting our messages, not helping them.
"That's what people who defend these shows and movies don't understand." They are called useful idiots for a reason.
Exactly, the season’s theme of mental health and its overall impact could have been told quite creatively instead of surface level delves into depression as well as paranoid schizophrenia. All the other plot points are conveyed for the sake of having present day messages other than deeper explorations. The origins of the Confederation having to be that of a mental health issue are not as poignant as let’s say a xenophobic industrialist investing in eugenics.
One of the defining character traits for hypocrites is lack of self-awareness.
Just saying.
People who like nutrek also wear their masks alone in the car and when swimming.
@@TREBONIANVS I have a co-worker who grew up watching TOS and enjoys Picard. I can’t fathom why but then again his wife is a Scientologist though she hasn’t gone clear.
The big difference now vs older Star Trek is that on shows like TOS, TNG, or DS9 the message/moral was never more important than telling a good story, having a strong plot, and developing interesting and consistent characters. Now everything plot and character related is a distant second (at best) to a specific political message.
Exactly. Nutrek is a morality lecture wrapped in a thin bubble of plot.
I remember that in the documentary "Captains" where William Shatner is interviewing all the main captains from Star Trek (Patrick Stewart, Avery Brooks, Kate Mulgrew, Scott Bakula, and Chris Pine) that Stewart mentioned that he had a very abusive father that would beat his mother in front of him. He lived for years in fear that he would turn into his father so he's had issues dealing with anger in a healthy-way.
I think if Stewart has a hand in the writing on this, he probably wanted to put events of episode 7 into the franchise someplace.
I still find it sad the show makers dont understand this show is less progressive than the old one, I dont know how they can not see it.
The only good thing I can say is the Borg are super inclusive, who every you are they will assimilate you.
The hilarious thing is that the original was actually progressive, but wasn't trying to lecture viewers. Picard is fake-progressive, and lectures more in one episode than I've heard in my day-to-day life for 25 plus years.
Swap progressive for intersectionalist and you have you answer. Modern progressives and the antithesis of the word.
That's why the correct term for these people is "regressives". They are the ones who want to bring back segregation, and to start giving advantages to people based on their skin instead of treating people equally, and start judging and persecuting people by their skin. They are the least accepting people, yet label themselves as progressive in order to claim the high road. This is why everything in media turns to shit when they add "modern" progressive politics. They will ruin everything and claim anyone who doesnt like it as racist sexist etc etc etc.
Nah, the Borg have some standards at least. They won't assimilate Kazon or Pakled, and I've never heard of a Talaxian being assimilated either.
I just watched the TNG episode "Half a life." It was basically a morality tale/thought experiment about euthanasia. The story was a little forced, and it focused on Lwaxana Troi (who's good as a riposte again Picard, but little else).
However, the plot still gave credit to both sides of the argument. Neither was written as obviously the "right position" and Lwaxana ultimately had to face the reality that she couldn't force an entire culture to change its beliefs just by throwing a fit.
The episode wasn't fantastic, but it was way better than this trash.
If they had randomly remade that episode scene-for-scene in Star Trek Picard, it would be considered the BEST episode that’s come out in both seasons. That’s how pathetic this show is
What makes it science fiction is that the alien society can add credence to the argument that you should only live to 30 because it's an alien idea. If it were on Earth, that argument probably wouldn't hold very well and there would be no drama, or anything interesting in the episode.
ST Picard could have had a whole episode about families and misunderstandings and guilt or whatever. Instead, it's just some stupid dream that has really nothing to do with the plot.
@@valueofnothing2487 not only does it have nothing to do with the plot, (other than maybe at most being the reason why picard had the random memories of his mum at the start of ep 1. if they dont also tie her into the borg plot or something stupid.
but on top of that, the dream is completely unmotivated. she has to go into his dreams because he got hit by a car?
yeah right. If that doesnt smack of "i want to do an episode were picard fixes his repressed memories inside his own head, how can i make him unconscious for an episode? BOOM CAR HITS PICARD"
Was a great episode for Lwaxana who was usually a stereotypical 'sitcom' type character inserted into Star Trek. Majel Barret did a really good job 'acting on top of acting' by showing Lwaxana's wacky man-chasing is like a fun game for her, until in this ep where it became too real. Her emotions at the end of the episode were really 'earned' and really helped elevate her character who was normally comic relief.
I actually liked it, especially as an episode with Lwaxana that WASN'T horrible. And, I'm a fan of David Stiers.
Stopped watching after season 1, they would need to change whole writing staff for me to give it a chance. Bad robot hacks destroy everything.
I recently rewatched some of deep space 9, such a masterpiece of a show, its such a shame how bad Star Trek has got with this and discovery been so far from what Star Trek is, I have stopped watching the new shows.
I recently re-watched that too. The first seasons are pretty bad( a lot of tv sci fi shows were back in the 90s when they were trying to establish themselves)
Modern tv shows have more time to prepare between episodes , bigger budgets, and fewer episodes per series so have very little excuse for poor writing.
Having said that, DS9 still had some good episodes in the first few seasons and the last couple of seasons with the Dominion war was an excellent arc. You aged YNG and ENT also put modern trek to shame.
Babalyon 5 was even better in seasons 3-4. Not to mention Farscape and Stargate. Quality shows.
LOL I am still waiting for Sisko to come back out of the wormhole, he is the chosen one! ;p
Duet has to be the best episode of any trek imo.
For anyone who’s still upset with Alex Kurtzman, there’s an episode of Hercules: The Legendary Journeys set in the modern day where Ted Raimi portrays Kurtzman as a useless idiot who can’t write anything good to save his life. He’s portrayed as living in a closet inside the studio with Roberto Orci, and it’s literally hilarious how accurate it is
For the love of god guys, watch The Orville if you want a legit Star Trek. There is good comedy, drama and good writing. Just do it!
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The Orville is legit TNG status. Like for real, it's true honest to god excellent Star Trek. Thank God.
Make it So...........says Picard, number one you have the bridge.
They watched the orville...I think they did a review on season 1 or both seasons...I don't remember that was 3-4 years ago. Thank god season 3 is coming out this summer.
Does anyone else only know about this show through RLM & AJ? I'd never actually watch this trash, but I love seeing them suffer hehe also Alex is amazing ❤
Same, I won't watch 60-min of the show, but I'll watch hours of reviews of this tripe just to see them suffer.
Same here.
Ye
This show brings me so much joy and sanity for feeling the same about the terrible material and destroying what we loved.
lord of the rings destroyed soon aswell.
So the new show is canon with the Peter Jackson movies?
Christopher Reeve had creative writing control over Superman IV, too. Let that really sink in...
1:51 This concept is exactly what BLM/lgbtq/feminism etc movements are - all real issues that our 2 corporate parties co opt and corrupt so they don't work and we stay divided. The very language we use to talk about these things are from the corporate media. The establishment baits us to fight each other over social cultural issues without realizing both parties are the same thing, both dividing us.
The democratic party's policies are just as 'racist' or anti-lgbtq as the republican one because they're the same economic policies. If your movement is connected to the democratic party it is corrupt, end of story. you've buddied up with the enemy.
this woke stuff will never end and only get worse (as it is) until we firmly grasp both parties are the same thing tricking us.
Between this show and Riverdale, I feel like I have endless hours of TH-cam entertainment despite never having seen said shows
Sure thing buddy
The Critical Drinker has given up and when the Drinker gives up and no longer following this season of Picard for his take, that tells you. It's a final acceptance that the series we were fans of are now more of a vehicle for their agenda and "The message"
As a huge Halo and Star Trek fan I'm sorry to see Joe like this after watching these shows knowing he's also a huge fan of these universes. On the other hand, it's funny as hell seeing the faces on Alex and Other Joe knowing the pure anger and red that's about to be unleashed. 🤣🤣🤣
This show is confusing AF especially after visiting an alternate timeline and then traveling back in time to the present! Coupled with a weekly release. My understanding is:
-Data is not data
-Soji is not Soji
-Vash is not Vash
-Guinan is Guinan except when not Guinan is Guinan
-Picard is Picard except he is actually a Synthetic
-Jurati is Jurati but also the borg Queen
-Raffi is just an imposter (I refuse to believe she is a star fleet officer!)
One question.....how does she know how to sing a mediocre song from 500 years before her time?
"It's always been X, Y, or Z!"
Yeah it also had good writing, too bad they didn't keep that part up.
Me to anyone who’s watching Picard: You want to watch a good Star Trek show go watch Deep Space Nine. It has way better story telling
It's arguably the best story telling in star trek. I hope the writers don't touch any of those characters. 😔
For current new show, I highly recommend Lower Decks and Prodigy.
Seriously the writers on those shows actually know Star Trek.
Yeah man DS9 was way better than any of the other shows. Star Trek with consequences. I love TNG but nothing they ever did had any consequence outside of the borg. In DS9, everything comes back and bites them in the ass. Just can’t fly away after fucking shit up all over the galaxy.
DS9 is by far my favourite Star Trek series. So many strong characters, Quark, Bashir, Garak! I honestly can't think of a single character I didn't care about.
AJ makes an important point early on: Star Trek: Picard isn't bad because of its progressive messages. It's a bad show that happens to have progressive messages. That might allow it to win over some stupid people, but as AJ is demonstrating, anyone with half a brain is able to see past pandering.
It's kind of similar to the God is Not Dead movies. They're terrible movies in all aspects and they are very deliberately pushing a conservative Christian world view, but those movies are not bad BECAUSE of their conservative worldview. They are bad because the characters are terribly written, the stories are bad and the blatant pandering is farcical. Just like with Star Trek: Picard, there is no depth to the antagonists, they're just strawmen caricatures of whoever the writers have a beef with.
Complex issues that are divisive deserve more thought put in to them. One relatively recent good example of this is an episode of The Orville. One of the crewmembers belong to an all-male race and his husband is onboard the ship. They have a child together who turns out to be female, which is a rare genetic disorder amongst their race and it can be easily "treated" by turning the child into a male through surgery/medical attention. I won't bring up the details, but some moral issues are brought up that can be said to represent the left-right spectrum of the political compass and even though Seth MacFarlane is clearly a progressive, the episode ends with what could essentially be considered the conservative option having been taken but it is done in a reasonable way. The episode is kind of a metaphor for trans issues and body dysphoria in general, but the topic is treated with respect where both sides are shown to have valid points that serve as the basis of their opinion.
I'm currently partway through watching Ep 6, got to the start of the song...paused, looked for any Picard review video to see if I'm alone. Within 20 seconds: VINDICATION!
I'm a huge Star Trek Next Generation (STNG) fan and I've never watched an episode of Picard. I feel about STNG and Picard the same way I feel about the original Star Wars movies and subsequent films - that each of the former represents lightning in a bottle. I don't necessarily mean that the original creations were superior in every way, but more that they were point-in-time creations that cannot be easily simply 'followed up', especially not many, many years later.
Personally, I would have much preferred if Patrick Stewart had NOT agreed to do Picard. I think the 7 seasons of STNG and the fortuitious multiple films were more than good enough a send-off for the show and it's characters and nothing can stop us as fans from continuing to re-visit those creations years later. Instead, to go ahead and make Picard was to bring only a tiny portion of what was enjoyable about STNG and place it within a modern creation with only the thinnest of STNG trappings. I'm completely ignoring the well-publicised final episode(s)? featuring much of the STNG cast - to me, that's the fan service and while it might make some of us happy (again, I've never seen an episode of Picard); it also reminds of the sheer passage of time and the distance.
I'm quite protective of my idols and the creative works of the past. I don't think they can ever be easily revisited without bringing large amounts of our modern 'take' on things with us, creating a break between the world we loved and the world we try to recreate. Of course, allied with the desire for fan service is the money-making machine of Hollywood and so it is highly unlikely that we'll see a stop to the revisiting of history any time soon. However, we can always choose to ignore attempts at plumbing our memories for money.
I'm going to take a wild guess that this gets worse and it's going to continue to get worse.
The long march through the institutions stops for nothing.
Oh, boy. You know this is gonna be a fucking wild review when the words "THIS ISN'T STAR TREK" pops into your feed.
I'd like to remind you all that Star Trek is very progressive by nature, and that the worst thing this show does (like many other hacks in Hollywood) is misappropriate a lot of the progressive ideals under the pretense of progressiveness for the sake of brownie points and good PR; these corporations never, ever care about minorities like they say they do, and they're free to discriminate and rob them with the same hand they seek to fetishize them - not to mention it often pushing people to discrimination, because these talentless morons don't at all understand what made Star Trek great - and I say that as somebody who isn't a Trekkie by birth.
Anyways, great review, Angry Joe! Keep fighting the good fight like you usually do!
Ham-fisted doesn't even describe the situation. They are literally curb-stomping their virtue-signaling through the screen at this point.
"look how to the left we are! We love woman and gay isn't that so great! Please don't tax my bosses obscene wealth."
@@nathanielchieffallo4273 Sad part is, this is exactly the mentality. Especially Activision-Blizzard, abusing and harassing female, PoC, and LGBTQ+ employees while having the nerve to fetishize them.
@@nathanielchieffallo4273 More like "Please tax and regulate my obscenely wealthy boss in ways the make him remain a societal oligarch while squelching any competition."
“Everything woke turns to ____”
Nah, it’s just bad writing plain & simple, you can still write a “woke” story well
@@blueberrydenim4807 you can but unfortunately they don’t. The message is just too important to let story telling get in the way.
Best example of something woke that was good that I can think of is Arcane, had representation and tackle subjects like inequality without being blatant.
Mecha Picard should be smashing everyone while yelling 'There! Are! Four! Lights!"
"How does it feel to live long enough to see all your favourite franchises go down in flames?"
"Feels great..."
[Dying Inside Laughter]
I really appreciate Angry Joe's, Other Joe's and Alex's sticklers attitude for quality entertainment. It seems to be a big ask these days and these guys definitely don't let it slide (& Alex really knows his sh!t, reference wise)
The Critical Drinker had the best take on this
The Drinker is a sexist racist hack. Of course he hates Trek.
Yes, he did a brilliant farewell to Star Trek. Funny and sad and quite touching at the same time. It was emotional. 👍
@@KingBarnaDuke Nah, it was his usual whining
@@ShadowSonic2 I wouldn't know. I have only ever watched that one review from him.
The one liner Picard says while whippin' ass, "Resistance is futile"
Oh, that's a good one.
"BORG CUBE ME" - Mecha Picard after hurling a sun
Ayy, Joe finally got the reaction I have had for every single episode of Picard ever made! Only took 2 seasons!
This show is a trash fire of outrageously terrible writing that is basically vandalizing the memory of TNG and all of Star Trek.
Stewart is a woke shill activist and has always been one. The only difference between now and TNG-era was that in the TNG era, he was still coherent enough to be a fantastic actor, and he was never given story control.
The show didnt GET this bad. Its been this bad. Since Season 1 Episode 1.
This is the reason that you dont let talentless activists write your show. Someone who is talented is capable of keeping their politics and their job separate.
I couldn't of said it better myself..you get 2 GOLD stars lol 😆
I started watching The Orville by Seth Macfarlane, it's a better Star Trek show than Star Trek.
Nah, the Orville lacks balls
I wanted to love this show (Picard) so much because I know my father would have watched it without hesitation and so I did in his place.
The utter disappointment I have in this show is enough for my father and I.
Sorry, Dad.
Why are u apologising ? U didn’t make the show.
@@117MasterSpartan Because in some weirdo way I'd love to think my dad was sitting down watching it with me and was also just as disappointed and I needed to apologize for putting him through that. lol
Try being right leaning and being subjected to this garbage. I wouldn't consider the messages this show is trying to ram down your throat as "progressive" at all. It's 100% regressive shit. The progressive messages from old school star trek were absolutely great. They were relevant and aimed at bringing people together. The new show is very divisive and it sucks.
Alex's barely restrained hatred for Wil Wheaton genuinely warms the cockles of my heart.
For dropping the com-badge, it might've been intentional. He wanted to leave a "trail" for someone to find and dropped it intentionally? Perhaps so that law-enforcement couldn't confiscate it? But that would be very far-fetched, since alternatively he could just keep it near him, eventually law-enforcement would search him and confiscate it but then the rest of the crew would know where the Badge ended up. Immediately linking their location. but ya....
Interesting characters and their chemistry is what makes a show and when I compare Picard or Discovery to DS9, the other Star Trek that commonly dealt in dark themes...there just isn't any comparison. Nothing in either modern show can hold a candle to the characters of DS9 and their relationships. The scenes of DS9 were so well crafted as well and they knew how to punctuate the serious tone with moments of levity.
I like to watch Star trek Picard through Angry Joe's reviews.
SO what you are saying is you are making a judgement on a show, and hating it, without watching it?
You save money, and fund a great TH-cam channel. It's a win-win
@@vinnyc.1265 Do I really need to watch it to know it's crap? All these shows have been garbage for years. Reviews are just better and funnier to watch and also, shorter.
Angry Joe is honest and doesn't bullshit!
@@madjoe8622 "Garbage". That's why they are still on the air?
Halo, Fantastic Beasts and now Picard? Hopefully the AJ Crew get a palate cleanser soon. Thank you for going through all this bad media.
They may have to go back and play Halo 3, read Percy Jackson (because why give JKR any more attention?), and watch TNG. There aren’t very many good Hollywood film and tv projects anymore, at least Better Call Saul is coming.
He should have watched X.
There was a very specific formula to 80s & 90s Trek that appealed to me. The episodic storytelling. The episodes that focused on one specific member of the crew so you could get to know them better. The multi-episode stories felt like a treat. The episodes that focused on 2 crew members bonding. The episodes that fleshed out the lore of an alien species. The way episodes panned back & forth between the chill laid-back humdrum every in space to intense crisis situations. The episodes that explored new planets. Admittedly back in the day I disliked most holodeck episodes but now I see them as the future's version of a couple of friends playing a video game for a little escapism. I also really liked the architecture of the ships & how they weren't a dreary metal grey. Each episode could be a completely different genre: Slice of life, horror, comedy, adventure, romance.
Star Trek was a stress relief show. The characters were usually cheerful. In Picard, everyone seems high-strung & angry at all times. This is not the mood I'm looking for.
Everything we've seen about this Q species could be drilled down to 2 words: Superiority Complex. Could anyone seriously imagine that any Q we've ever seen in ST would EVER respond to some bizarre ritualistic summons? Like they're some genie in a bottle waiting for someone to summon them forth for any reason, whatsoever. God is this show dumb...
The opening being silent told me everything I needed to know about where this review was going to go! 😀
Woke shows are bad. Not because of what they convey but because it's used as a crutch. It's the same reason most religious shows are bad. When the message is all that matters the quality of the stuff around it is left to rot.
thats not a coincidence, being "woke", being "progressive", its all just a replacement for religion. its ideologies not based in reality, but based on feelings. and if you dont believe the same youre a bad person.
Star Wars, Game of Thrones, The Last of Us, Terminator and now Star Trek...
Our favourite characters and stories are being brought back then slowly murdered one by one and their corpses are being pissed on. Why 🥺
How does the sequel to Karate Kid; Cobra Kai have better writing and an understanding of how to properly pay tribute to the original characters while introducing new characters that are just as interesting and help build up the old ones than all of those? I feel like I'm living in an alternate timeline. What is going on
Don't be surprised if other franchises we love get screwed at shat on.
I guess because they dont have any good new ideas, (or are unwilling to pay fairly) so they have to destroy the old ones...
@@nekhrunoblivion We get a FEW good ones that do it right....but every other franchise just somehow can't afford good writers.
There are so many good writers who are fans that would do that shit for FREE. But instead we get Alex Kurtsman
this must be the worst timeline
@@cristianstephan At least the actual Halo games are back on track....except for the multiplayer
I dont think RLM can even touch this anymore.
Something that bothers me most about this whole Rene thing....is that Picard said in TNG (more than once IIRC), that he was the first Picard to go to space.
So this is just more of Kurtzman ignoring canon to do whatever he wants.
The longer your recap went, the more memory flashes I got. The feeling I have seen moments of this show before. And I did. In other Star Trek shows and movies. Throwing the communicator reminded me of Bones loosing his communicator on that one gangster planet and so on. So many moments we have seen before and I dear I know what it going on.
They are preparing the 'but the other Star Trek shows and movies have done this' before.
And if they bring up this defence?
Ask them if they are still wearing diapers, because chances are we all have worn diapers as babies. Because obviously we can't learn from past mistakes. We can't learn from our parents. We can't learn period. We don't grow up, ergo, the writers of this show are still wearing diapers.
If someone brings up this defence like they have done in the past.
When I heard Patrick Steward was going to be writing this series < I knew it was going to be bad. He is good actor but sci fi writer nope. I've seen a lot of his interviews , he is a thespian .
The last time Patrick Stewart had creative control was in Nemesis. He's the reason why they had that buggy chase. Patrick Stewart loves driving dune buggies so they put that whole sequence in to make him happy.
He owns a freaking pit bull and argues the breed isn't a fighting dog... Of course he's a pretend intellectual too. Absolute idiocy.
@@helmaschine1885 to be fair the vast majority of pit bulls never attack anyone.
TNG was ACTUALLY progressive. TNG existed in a time when the media wasn't in full exploitation mode regarding the LGBT, third and fourth-wave Feminism. Advertising saw a massive collective dollar sign over the heads of these people starting in the mid 90's. It's sad because again, you can see where OG Trek and TNG were ACTUALLY progressive. Nevermind all of this "I won't take handout from a man to further advance my position because men are the ultimate evil". I just watched an episode of Santa's Inc the other day 🤨.. I'm reg Independent and see myself as relatively progressive so when I say that Santa's Inc highlights everything wrong with the industry's regressive issue concerning misandry you can take that to the bank.
I do not watch the show, but the purpose of Raffi is to fulfill the angry, black, lesbian stereotype. It is kind of racist, and homophobic.
I have no intention of watching this show because im a star trek fan, but can someone explain to me why the Borg queen is at a charity fund raiser?
Alex to me always looks like a young Riker to me
I deal with politics everyday of my life, when I watch Star Trek I do so for entertainment and escapism - not to be preached to by left-leaning ideologues who wouldn't know how to write a good star trek story if it landed in their lap. I am done with modern woke trek.
Patrick Stewart has, retroactively, destroyed the legacy of Jean-Luc Picard.
Going head-on against the accusations and affirming his agreement with the messages of the shows, but not the implementation/execution.
Nuance people! 🤓
Mecha Picard- "There!" *Judo chops bad guy* "Are!" *Tornado kicks 2nd bad guy* "Four!" *Double-fist punches 3rd bad guy* "Lights!" *Road House throat kills last bad guy*
Picard makes Discovery look like a masterpiece
Picard makes Strange New Worlds look like Whistler’s Mother.
And Discovery makes Enterprise look like a masterpiece lol
The only explanation is that Michael Burnham wrote Picard
@@jim405 Picard is Mr Bean's version of Whistler's Mother.
@@Uksis He definitely is a gift shop’s poster equivalent of an artful approximation. Symbolically the producers and writers have used paint thinner to strip away anything resembling Trek. I’d take Mr. Bean as showrunner
Angry joe: “I am a progressive!”
Twitter babies: “No you’re not! If you disagree with us you’re the enemy! You nazi!”
Also Joe and us: “We just want the real freakin Star Trek!!”
Also Twitter: “Reeeeeeeeeeee!!!”
hes lucky they didnt notice his "illegal immigrants are all criminals" from the ice episode review. twitter would go full destroy mode.
yeah and same goes for all the people who want joe to not be progressive lol
So accurate, it's almost beautiful
@@rin022 good friends dont let friends do drugs
@@ge2719 It's a fact, though. As soon as they cross illegally they've committed a crime. Why would anyone deny that?
I'm a legal immigrant so maybe I'm biased, though
Your reviews of the show are more entertaining than the actual show. Also, I love that Alex t-shirt but I love Alex. He should write Picard, it’s terrible. I hated that therapy session, I hated the scenes with Rios, the Borg scene was stupid. It’s sad what they’ve done with my beloved Captain Picard.
9:26-10:23 *Exactly the creators hate Picard.* 😂
Alex's smile is eerie. It's like it's staring at Joe saying "Yes. Feel the hate." lol
Honestly, the 3 of you are fucking amazing. Love your back and forth conversations and chemistry. I’m not even watching this show and still I enjoy listening to you
Same, I've 0 interest in the show and Star Trek but these guys are worth listening to
These people lecture you struggling working people on morale sensibilities from mansions given to them by Mommy and Daddy while you pay for the upkeep. Just unplug the crap.
All they had to do, since season 1, was make this a follow up to TNG. Each episode its own thing just like the old days. Bring back as many of the old cast as possible including DSN and Voyager including writers from each show. It would of done so well.
I'm the first rlm plinker review they pitch this character study light hearted adventures of an older retired Picard and it seemed so promising.
@@Lm0956 Star Trek: Galaxy
dude you are so right
They take Jean Luc Picard to the clinic and somehow believe that a doctor in human physiology, who is also not supposed to know he's synthetic, is able to fix him? Yeah...
A.J., O.J. and Alex all have permanent palm marks on their foreheads. That's all I need to know.
His face in the beginning 😂😂
lol. I could instantly see you were enraged. OJ "Yaaaay I can take this shirt off at last" haha Star Trek as we knew it is dead. I had made my peace with it after the first Chris pine film.
As a long time Trek fan I actually enjoyed that movie, it was pretty "modern" but still pretty fun. That was the last time we got something at least remotely enjoyable from the franchise, everything they've farted out since has been unwatchable.
The
Those were at least fun popcorn movies that kept the franchise going when it was stagnant, most of these new shows are barely even watchable
One day I hope to have a job that's as fun (or fun adjacent in this case) as you guys have. Love your reviews.
Still trying to figure how Borg Jurati is going to be on the Statgrazer with "normal" Jurati if this is the same timeline.
But then I remember that the writers seem to just make up whatever is needed at any given episode and hope most viewers don't notice or care...they are wrong.
Star Trek was never 'progressive'. Star Trek was humanist.