@@tonyvilla3 Hold on a second. Isn't saying "you're literally one elimination game away from the semifinal" pointing out a moral victory? The only person here pointing out potential moral victories is you.
If USSF can't see how Panama and other nations can do more with the players that they have and not us , then we are doomed. We were doomed since he got hired 5 years ago.
Shoulda been gone when the Netherlands and Louie Van Gaal coached circles around him at the WC. Most nations I believe would have seen that team talent was fine but our coaches' acumen was subpar. And why the heck did we have to wait this long for our players to show a little heart/fire/fight?
@@pstratos7 When managing a club, you can pick and choose players that fit your system. You don't have that luxury with a national team. A national team needs to build a system around the players it has rather than try to shoehorn players into a system that they don't fit into. If the system that worked in league play isn't working for a national team, the coach has to recognize it and change the system.
@@todwest he totally would and he wasn’t even that good. Yeah Pulisic might be better but can you say anyone else is at the level of Dempsey, Howard. etc
No, the best usmnt up to date was the one that beat spain to make it to the confederations cup and faced brasil, yes they lost but made it to the final and this generation is nowhere near that achievement.
It's not just that we lack an international GKer. It's that every single player in our lineup is struggling at the club level to one degree or the other and most of them have undergone about three downgrades in assess talent since their career began.
Most of the current guys are around my age and the Previous Gen of Guys like Landon, Dempsey, Beasley, Jermaine, Tim and so on was the golden generation. The main difference is that most in that generation had a lot more heart and really had to grind from the bottom like from Youth/HS/College/NPSL on up with little infrastructure tbh.
It has never been the "Golden Generation". They were dubbed the Golden Generation when they were 17 and hadn't even yet had a professional career based on the careers people hyped that they were going to have. But the reality is that virtually the whole roster has struggled and did not live up to the hype.
Yep, all we can really do is fire the players since Derphalter is USMNT-coach-for-life. It's not as if a coach needs to find a functional system, or inspire players. Nope. Football is all about good vibes, which is why Greggggg is the greatest coach who has ever lived. If the players aren't playing for him there must be something wrong with them.
2002 was a blown hand ball call from the semi-finals? Wow. I assumed they simply would have been awarded a penalty. I didn't know that the punishment for a handball in 2002 was an immediate loss! ;-)
Would have been a penalty plus a probable red card since the handball was on the goal line preventing a goal, so Germany would have been down a man for the rest of the match. With those odds, USA pulling off that upset isn't out of the question.
That's the American delusion for you. When Americans win, it's cause they're better despite you cheating. When Americans lose, it's the refs, corruption, you cheated, etc etc. Americans never seems to lose fairly 😆
That's not what Herc stated. He clearly said that current players are better than we ever had and yet, under GGG they haven't even been close to delivering any meaningful results as prior generations.
The golden generation was Dempsey and Donovan’s generation not this soft ass everyone gets a trophy generation. This team was the least skilled team I’ve ever seen and I’ve been following the team since the early 90s
Straight up people hype this US Men’s team way too much. This team ain’t different from the past. Or better yet at the same level as the past. This is not the sport of popularity in the US. It’s Football, baseball, basketball, golf, tennis, etc. Until that changes then “soccer” or “Futbol” will progress, bring more youth, develop better, develop a system. Ohh and the coach has to go!
Shouldn't we group Mexico along with this and assess this as a Concacaf failure. Despite 8 years ago both teams getting slammed by Chile and Argentina in Copa Centenario, they at least got out the group. How can both teams be this terrible and have regressed when they are hosting the world cup in 2 years? There should be a Fubo america video analysis on this Herc
Gio had some nice plays, but also some silly ones. He seems to have a habit of making some foolish passes, despite his clear potential. Don't get me wrong I liked his performance, but we can't be wasting possessions. Would really like to see him just a bit sharper and more responsible with the ball and he'll be great.
The players on the USMNT are nowhere near as good as the American fans and media believe. Nominally many of them play in relatively high European leagues but a lot of them are not starters. I'm not defending Berhalter so much as pointing out that America still needs to manage their expectations. Pulisic wasn't a premier league player and most likely never will be. There is not one truly elite player on the USMNT. So why did you expect to go so far?
I wish I had the skill to be on this team. I would be a terror in the locker room right now. Even hated by the coaches and players demanding more of myself and others. Instead they are holding hands. The mentality of this team is weak!!! They are way to comfortable. This coach is like a friend. The play on the pitch is still so sloppy... and its every game. Turners passes last game. Abysmal.
Cindy Parlow Cone’s USSF priorities seem to be focused on maintaining the status quo for the US men’s national team, rather than striving for excellence and rivaling top nations like Argentina. This approach may be driven by her desire to prioritize gender parity in salaries, as improving the men’s team could potentially divert resources and attention away from the women’s team. Hopefully she will soon see that this approach is untenable and counterproductive to her own priorities.
Face it, USMNT players are overhyped. If they really were that good, they would have at least drawn Panama even with 10 men. And US never looked like they could threaten Uruguay even though they weren’t at their best. Sure, coach is pathetic but this is no golden generation of players either.
soccer has always been a sum greater than its parts. uruguay panama have more MLS players than USMNT and lookie lookie! USA out. Europe overrated. team needs a brand, identity that is unique to USA and gets hammered into players for next 2 years
México and US are delusional. Both fans bases and media are blowing them up ⬆️ but you got hit with reality . Stay in your lane (gold cup or chocolate cup what ever you want to call it ) Esto es Copa America . 😂
GOLDEN GENERATION... THIS IS THE PR MADNESS JAMAICA HAS MORE PLAYERS AVAILABLE TO IS IN THE EPL , WHO SAID GOLDEN GENERATION 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 YALL BETTER STICKNWITH THE MLS PLAYERS THESE PLAYERS ARE NOT BETTER ... DONAVON IS BETTER THAN PULISIC, DEMSEY IS BETTER THAN PULISIC CORY BURKE 😂😂😂 SOLD US OUT 😂😂😂😂
Players like Antonio, Reid, and Gray were born in England so they didn’t have to do what American players did in playing in their home country and getting a club to sign them abroad. Antonio, Reid, and Gray were already playing in England since they were born but they just didn’t have the talent to be chosen to play for their born country so they chose Jamaica. They weren’t signed into the EPL from Jamaica they were already born in the country of it. This is the reason why there’s more Jamaican players playing in England than American players. It’s not because of football talent but more because of history of how the British called Jamaicans for labor during WW2 since Jamaica was at one point an English colony until 1962.
@@marvinprudencio7321 are you asking if I knew they were born in England lol Born to Jamaica parents or grandparents you are Jamaica. Unlike America if you ask kids or most football players where the are from its Trinidad, Jamaica etc. Also OMARI HUTCHINSON PLAYS WITH A JAMAICAN AND ENGLISH FLAG ON HIS BOOTS , HE WON THE CHAMPIONSHIP AND HAD A JAMAICAN FLAG WRAPPED AROUND HIM. yall dispise immigration, only in track and field the US gives alot of Citizenships away My parents went the for the WINDRUSH GENERATION. The fact is we have a larger pool of players to choose from if done correctly, 90 % of moroccos players are not born their 50 to 60 % of ductch players were born in the Suriname French players born in Martinique American ls don't travel so yall don't have kids anywhere lol .. my son is 5 and he can have a American, Italian, brasillian, Jamaica, British and Cayman Islands passport, when he is old he can choose who to play for America dose not have that pool of players to tap into It's 50-60 % mexican or Columbian yall trying to take ... yet yall don't want Mexicans in the country. The Jamaican football federation just needs to do the right thing and yall dusted for concacaf.
Okay, and the US has more players in Serie A, La Liga, and the Bundesliga than Jamaica does. Just because they have more players from the EPL (now a confirmed farmer's league after this past season BTW) doesn't mean a thing.
Is Usa reporters Mexicans what ypu talking about Golden generation.6 yrs ago USA out world cup, that all it had to was tie at Trinidad that was alrrady eliminated. AND PULLISIC WAS THERE. YEAH HE OS GOOD BUT average compare to European players or south American players. And rest less talented. Teammates. You can brag so much about beating Mexico and that's it.
@@brando7266 As much as I dislike the FIFA rankings, Argentina (1) and Brazil (4) are the only teams in the top 10. Others are the US (10, which is a big joke), Colombia (12), and Uruguay (14). It's like a big farmers league out there.
The entire soccer media needs to call for Berhaulter to resign. Getting grouped at home is unacceptable
I see this delusion everywhere. You have overhyped mid players. You can get Zidane and there would be no difference
@@tonyvilla3 the us made the Copa semifinal with gyasi zardes in the team under jurgen but sure thing
@@pstratos7 you literally are one elimination game away from the semifinal in copa America. I swear you Americans and ur moral victories
@@tonyvilla3 Hold on a second. Isn't saying "you're literally one elimination game away from the semifinal" pointing out a moral victory? The only person here pointing out potential moral victories is you.
@@Klako-ls6yt dude is yapping saying making the copa semifinal is some impressive achievement. Is that not a moral victory?
If USSF can't see how Panama and other nations can do more with the players that they have and not us , then we are doomed. We were doomed since he got hired 5 years ago.
They ARE the best individual talent, they're not a team, and that's on the manager. It's not difficult.
But they keep telling us about the togetherness during the fox broadcast 😂
Very happy someone finally said it, I'm not praising Klinsmann by any means, but he wasn't afraid to challenge players.
Why can't he get a job, if he's so good?
Landon was the best the US team has had to date.
As a non-American, I remember watching Landon Donovan and asking why the world didn't know more about him. He was a force every time he played.
Berhalter gotta go. Need some fresh ideas and need to be tougher. Lots of guys limping off the field yesterday when the tough got going.
golden generation my ass, they havent won any important match
Shoulda been gone when the Netherlands and Louie Van Gaal coached circles around him at the WC. Most nations I believe would have seen that team talent was fine but our coaches' acumen was subpar. And why the heck did we have to wait this long for our players to show a little heart/fire/fight?
Gio was played out of position this whole god damn tournament?? Why??? We had LITERALLY nothing going forward!
What about pulishit?
This system worked during the mls regular season a few years back, so it’s not the systems fault
@@pstratos7 No, this is not the system Berhalter used in Columbus. Berhalter ran a 4-2-3-1 in Columbus.
@@pstratos7 When managing a club, you can pick and choose players that fit your system. You don't have that luxury with a national team. A national team needs to build a system around the players it has rather than try to shoehorn players into a system that they don't fit into. If the system that worked in league play isn't working for a national team, the coach has to recognize it and change the system.
@@pstratos7 Gregg played a lot more direct in Columbus, not the same system at all.
Prime Jozy Altidore would walk into this starting line up. How is this the golden generation????
And Jozy Altidore was trash. Best US #9 was McBride who was part of the real golden generation.
Ridiculous assertion.
Jozy was cold people are just haters
@@todwest No, he's right. Hardly anyone on this team could start on the team the USA was starting from 2002 to 2010.
@@todwest he totally would and he wasn’t even that good. Yeah Pulisic might be better but can you say anyone else is at the level of Dempsey, Howard. etc
The best the USMNT has been in the last 5 years is when Gregg was fired for a few months. It is clear that he is the problem.
I keep telling ppl this but no one listens
No, the best usmnt up to date was the one that beat spain to make it to the confederations cup and faced brasil, yes they lost but made it to the final and this generation is nowhere near that achievement.
Yeah the golden generation with a GK who rides the bench at a bottom tier prem team? Tim Howard was miles ahead… more like paper generation
It's not just that we lack an international GKer.
It's that every single player in our lineup is struggling at the club level to one degree or the other and most of them have undergone about three downgrades in assess talent since their career began.
Thank Hulk 👍
I know it won't happen but Pat Noonan would be a great coach. Maybe, one day.
Most of the current guys are around my age and the Previous Gen of Guys like Landon, Dempsey, Beasley, Jermaine, Tim and so on was the golden generation. The main difference is that most in that generation had a lot more heart and really had to grind from the bottom like from Youth/HS/College/NPSL on up with little infrastructure tbh.
On paper the Golden Generation. In reality can’t beat Panama 🇵🇦
You mean to tell me a 1900s team was better than today's. Ouch!
It has never been the "Golden Generation". They were dubbed the Golden Generation when they were 17 and hadn't even yet had a professional career based on the careers people hyped that they were going to have.
But the reality is that virtually the whole roster has struggled and did not live up to the hype.
America is a continent you mean USA !!!
COACHING!!!!!!!!
The best generation according to who? lol 😂
USA is like fucking England right now
Yep, all we can really do is fire the players since Derphalter is USMNT-coach-for-life. It's not as if a coach needs to find a functional system, or inspire players. Nope. Football is all about good vibes, which is why Greggggg is the greatest coach who has ever lived. If the players aren't playing for him there must be something wrong with them.
2002 was a blown hand ball call from the semi-finals? Wow. I assumed they simply would have been awarded a penalty. I didn't know that the punishment for a handball in 2002 was an immediate loss! ;-)
These guys really thought they would have beaten Germany.
@@GrandT343 Talk to any German fan who watched that game and asked them which was the better team.
Would have been a penalty plus a probable red card since the handball was on the goal line preventing a goal, so Germany would have been down a man for the rest of the match. With those odds, USA pulling off that upset isn't out of the question.
That's the American delusion for you. When Americans win, it's cause they're better despite you cheating. When Americans lose, it's the refs, corruption, you cheated, etc etc. Americans never seems to lose fairly 😆
@@Klako-ls6ytplus freidel was in top form,
No heart
Stop calling them a "golden generation". Until they prove otherwise, they're the "fool's gold generation"
pipipipi 😂
Herc is right,the pass generations were way better than this one,
That's not what Herc stated. He clearly said that current players are better than we ever had and yet, under GGG they haven't even been close to delivering any meaningful results as prior generations.
He said the opposite
If you don’t watch much soccer you’ve never heard of any of these guys. The U.S. still can’t produce a stud player
The golden generation was Dempsey and Donovan’s generation not this soft ass everyone gets a trophy generation. This team was the least skilled team I’ve ever seen and I’ve been following the team since the early 90s
Which is sad. I remember as a kid watching 2010 thinking we’d only get better. Not the case, been a steady decline and we already weren’t that great
🎯
Agreed, Softer than Baby Poop.
"Soft-ass everyone gets a trophy generation" says the generation responsible for giving everyone trophies
Straight up people hype this US Men’s team way too much. This team ain’t different from the past. Or better yet at the same level as the past. This is not the sport of popularity in the US. It’s Football, baseball, basketball, golf, tennis, etc. Until that changes then “soccer” or “Futbol” will progress, bring more youth, develop better, develop a system. Ohh and the coach has to go!
Paper Generation you mean
Shouldn't we group Mexico along with this and assess this as a Concacaf failure. Despite 8 years ago both teams getting slammed by Chile and Argentina in Copa Centenario, they at least got out the group. How can both teams be this terrible and have regressed when they are hosting the world cup in 2 years? There should be a Fubo america video analysis on this Herc
This team does nothing .. We needed Dempsey and Pulsaic at the same time .. we’ve never had a midfielder worst ish .. defense okay .. Non explosive
I will give Gio a thumbs up and Sargent. Quality game against Uruguay from both of them.
Gio had some nice plays, but also some silly ones. He seems to have a habit of making some foolish passes, despite his clear potential. Don't get me wrong I liked his performance, but we can't be wasting possessions. Would really like to see him just a bit sharper and more responsible with the ball and he'll be great.
The players on the USMNT are nowhere near as good as the American fans and media believe.
Nominally many of them play in relatively high European leagues but a lot of them are not starters.
I'm not defending Berhalter so much as pointing out that America still needs to manage their expectations. Pulisic wasn't a premier league player and most likely never will be.
There is not one truly elite player on the USMNT. So why did you expect to go so far?
I wish I had the skill to be on this team. I would be a terror in the locker room right now. Even hated by the coaches and players demanding more of myself and others. Instead they are holding hands. The mentality of this team is weak!!! They are way to comfortable. This coach is like a friend. The play on the pitch is still so sloppy... and its every game. Turners passes last game. Abysmal.
Woah we got a badass over here
Cindy Parlow Cone’s USSF priorities seem to be focused on maintaining the status quo for the US men’s national team, rather than striving for excellence and rivaling top nations like Argentina. This approach may be driven by her desire to prioritize gender parity in salaries, as improving the men’s team could potentially divert resources and attention away from the women’s team. Hopefully she will soon see that this approach is untenable and counterproductive to her own priorities.
😂😂😂😂
People need to stop calling teams the golden gen then being mad when they win nothing, cause these players aren't even that impressive.
Face it, USMNT players are overhyped. If they really were that good, they would have at least drawn Panama even with 10 men. And US never looked like they could threaten Uruguay even though they weren’t at their best. Sure, coach is pathetic but this is no golden generation of players either.
soccer has always been a sum greater than its parts. uruguay panama have more MLS players than USMNT and lookie lookie! USA out. Europe overrated. team needs a brand, identity that is unique to USA and gets hammered into players for next 2 years
This team isn't all that good tho...
México and US are delusional. Both fans bases and media are blowing them up ⬆️ but you got hit with reality . Stay in your lane (gold cup or chocolate cup what ever you want to call it )
Esto es Copa America . 😂
GOLDEN GENERATION... THIS IS THE PR MADNESS JAMAICA HAS MORE PLAYERS AVAILABLE TO IS IN THE EPL ,
WHO SAID GOLDEN GENERATION 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
YALL BETTER STICKNWITH THE MLS PLAYERS
THESE PLAYERS ARE NOT BETTER ... DONAVON IS BETTER THAN PULISIC, DEMSEY IS BETTER THAN PULISIC
CORY BURKE 😂😂😂 SOLD US OUT 😂😂😂😂
Players like Antonio, Reid, and Gray were born in England so they didn’t have to do what American players did in playing in their home country and getting a club to sign them abroad. Antonio, Reid, and Gray were already playing in England since they were born but they just didn’t have the talent to be chosen to play for their born country so they chose Jamaica. They weren’t signed into the EPL from Jamaica they were already born in the country of it. This is the reason why there’s more Jamaican players playing in England than American players. It’s not because of football talent but more because of history of how the British called Jamaicans for labor during WW2 since Jamaica was at one point an English colony until 1962.
@@marvinprudencio7321 are you asking if I knew they were born in England lol
Born to Jamaica parents or grandparents you are Jamaica. Unlike America if you ask kids or most football players where the are from its Trinidad, Jamaica etc. Also OMARI HUTCHINSON PLAYS WITH A JAMAICAN AND ENGLISH FLAG ON HIS BOOTS , HE WON THE CHAMPIONSHIP AND HAD A JAMAICAN FLAG WRAPPED AROUND HIM.
yall dispise immigration, only in track and field the US gives alot of Citizenships away
My parents went the for the WINDRUSH GENERATION.
The fact is we have a larger pool of players to choose from if done correctly,
90 % of moroccos players are not born their
50 to 60 % of ductch players were born in the Suriname
French players born in Martinique
American ls don't travel so yall don't have kids anywhere lol .. my son is 5 and he can have a American, Italian, brasillian, Jamaica, British and Cayman Islands passport, when he is old he can choose who to play for
America dose not have that pool of players to tap into
It's 50-60 % mexican or Columbian yall trying to take ... yet yall don't want Mexicans in the country.
The Jamaican football federation just needs to do the right thing and yall dusted for concacaf.
Okay, and the US has more players in Serie A, La Liga, and the Bundesliga than Jamaica does. Just because they have more players from the EPL (now a confirmed farmer's league after this past season BTW) doesn't mean a thing.
The "golden generation" of this arrogant and overrated USMNT is laughable🤣🤣🤣
Is Usa reporters Mexicans what ypu talking about Golden generation.6 yrs ago USA out world cup, that all it had to was tie at Trinidad that was alrrady eliminated. AND PULLISIC WAS THERE. YEAH HE OS GOOD BUT average compare to European players or south American players. And rest less talented. Teammates. You can brag so much about beating Mexico and that's it.
They r beating mexico at their worst moment. Thats what comical.
Dude, no one cares about the Copa America. The whole world is looking at the Euros. Stop shouting to make USMNT relevant!
Of the top 10 countries in the world, Copa has 4,
@@brando7266 top based on what? And what are they?
@@sublime9525 most lists have - Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay, and maybe Columbia in the top 10, u don't?
@@brando7266 As much as I dislike the FIFA rankings, Argentina (1) and Brazil (4) are the only teams in the top 10. Others are the US (10, which is a big joke), Colombia (12), and Uruguay (14). It's like a big farmers league out there.
Usmnt sucks