@@MegaDj550 not really a friend owns owns and they are fairly reliable. Of course it is 25 years old so he has to fix things more often but she runs great
Most won't agree with me, but I think that the AMG is better looking. So much more muscular and those rims are awesome. The m3 is a better car, but that AMG looks 2 GUD
Right? The USDM E36 M3's are somewhat disappointing. The cosmetic issues aren't too big a deal, but when the car has less power and a 5-speed instead of a 6-speed, I just feel so ripped off.
Merc all day. I want to like BMW, and I do like driving them, but as a total package, Mercs look better, feel nicer inside, and carry a higher class vibe. This Merc looks fantastic when compared to the M3.
I can see the M vs AMG argument but that seems less significant since AMG is just part of Mercedes now. If it was like an Alpina VS AMG when AMG was an independent company I would he a little more in agreement. I was looking at it as factory sports model vs factory sports model.
You are right indeed sir. First battle was the first gen M3 vs 190e Cosworth. AMG was not yet fully backed by Mercedes though was their biggest non-official tuner. Love these 2nd gen head to head comparisons.
thats what makes the cosworth so amazing being made by the inhouse tuner company amg in secret with the brands money, making an amazing car, and meanwhile on the other hand bmw made a car just to compete against the amg with the full support of the brand, and while having the knowledge of how the amg was built its not that hard to build a "better" car when u know what to upgrade and where.....
Maybe your GL has leather interieur, while the W202 had the so called MB-Tex. MB-Tex is a fake leather used by mercedes, since it is more durble and probably alot cheaper.
Tried to serch but couldn't even find a c36 for sale at the moment, maybe they rusted away like all 90s MBs Or the electrical system has melted away like the one I fixed, a friend had a m3 286hp at the same time and my the c36 felt booring in comparsion. More comparable to a other friends m5 e34 3.6, just smaller.
As a previous owner of an almost problem free BMW 528 from 2009 I really wanted the BMW to win my vote but the interior told a big story! I would now go for the AMG
The U.S. Models got two slightly different motors depending on year/body style. When the E36 came out it had a 3.0 I-6 with 240hp and 225ftlbs, then they got bumped to 3.2 liters and torque rose from 225 to 236ftlbs but hp remained at 240hp. Now Europe also had two variations depending on year, when the E36 came out in Europe it had 286hp and was later raised to 321hp.
You cannot compare the interior on a 20 year old convertible vs a 20 year old sedan. Any 20 year old sedan is going to win that category just based purely from the overall differences in exposure to the elements.
Billy Huddleston ? What do you mean elements. He also said this was not an isolated case, that most taken car of mercs have better interior quality than most taken car of bmw's.
You can on an e36. They fall apart. Having owned both, and being regarded as a BMW guy, trust me when I say BMWs outperform but Mercedes is a true luxury car and built to much higher standards both in quality of materials and over fit, finish, engineering and craftsmanship as soon as you ignore the handling and raw performance of the cars the benz is ahead by a landslide. But the m3 is a much truer sports car experience which is what peoplle want used. Used luxury is an oxymoron. Used performance is hotrodding culture 101.
The European E36's have held up quite well. The North American market E36 M3 had a lighter-duty rear axles and differential, leading to more reliability problems, which would be expensive to fix. The North American E36 M3's also had less reliable engines too. They had completely different engines too. The European versions got stronger camshafts, and a stronger oil pump and sump, but the North American E36 M3's had to make do with a slightly modified M50 engine, and later, a slightly modified M52 engine. And as these engines weren't designed for lots of hard driving, the Euro E36 M3 is a more reliable car for performance driving. Also, the North American cars got cheap plastic headlight lenses which fogged up, instead of glass lenses. And while the euro cars got floating brake rotors, the North American cars didn't, which means reduced cooling, which increases the chances of them warping
Monte Stu my dad had such a C-class before it got crashed twice in a month and he had to give it away. Was a C 280 and every extra option in it possible except for the stupid phone. It looked so damn gorgeous with it’s "emerald black" metallic and the late AMG sport suspension.
rrr330 it’s not that simple unfortunately. The US spec “M3” has basically a larger displacement version of the same engine as the smaller 6 pot models with a further handful of upgrades called the “S52” The euro spec cars have a completely different bespoke engine with ITB’s that share little in common with the other 6’s in the range called the “S50”
@@Mercedes_Benz_Bros. yes the last inline 6 by mercedes before thy move to V6 in the w202,too. my C280 1995 have 193 HP ;) will never sell. great engine !!!
I am a bmw fan and have owned several including my newest a 2009 328 coupe. I recently purchased a 2000 Mercedes CLK430 and to my surprise I like the clk better. For all the reasons Tyler has explained. The car seems to be made of the same stuff as “Thor’s“ hammer. It really is tough and way more powerful and reliable than the bmw and I bought for only 3100 dollars.
DAVID COLLINS you adsolutely right, Mercedes benz is way better in quality, I personally own a 2011 E 350 and the car still looks new inside and outside.
I'm driving my buddies 2000 Merc CLK430 and am REALLY impressed by how solid it still seems. How many miles? This one is 150k. Any HUGE gotchas that I need to worry about...oh I forgot to mention he is thinking of selling it to me.
Yet he is dailying his c36 and giving the bmw to his girlfriend... don’t tell us what you think we want to hear, be honest! The Benz is the better car hands down.
Probably because the benz is not even close to as reliable as BMWs from that era and the girlfriend likely wouldn't appreciate being left stranded by it. Though, being that it's a slow as **** US version and on top of that a cabrio with an automatic transmission... it's likely as bad as the benz.
IcemaN because the European M3 got variable valve timing and 320 horsepower with the evo edition M3, while the American versions only had 240 with no variable valve timing and they didn’t even come with an oil temp gauge
I much prefer the m3 over the c36. All 3 series were better than c-classes until either the e90 or f30 (much debate) but needless to say Mercedes is killing BMW on every class of vehicle now and I'm totally fine with that because ever since bimmer did away with their NA I6s my love for them was lost. I'd take a c63 over an m3 or m4 any day now.
"Mercedes is killing BMW on every class of vehicle now" Merc beating BMW: C-class > 3-series (including C63 and M3&M4) S-class > 7-series BMW beating Merc: 5-series > E-class (including E63 and M5) X1, X3, X5 > GLA, GLC, GLE Germans have switched their personality recently. AMG is more track focused, M cars are more comfortable The best example for that is the new F90 M5 versus E63(S) AMG. Based on many reviews BMW has a softer suspension in comfort and is a better daily driver and feels lighter/sharper on the track... WITHOUT competition pack (coming soon) I love AMGs, but in last ~10 months the new E63S has been like a god in TH-cam comment section. Now BMW beat it with the new (base) M5 and it feels good
Insure the entire Hooptie Fleet (minus grandma's SL) with Hagerty, (collector value replacement cost added), park them in a barn and set the building ablaze.
You either haven't followed Doug long or haven't been paying attention. Doug is very transparent. He worked for Porsche after all and has shared a lot from it and shared his personal feelings and thoughts. For more, go to autotrader.com/oversteer
holy .... the amg is nerfed in usa, it has a 280ps/hk in europe, the bmw allthough is slow here aswell, per usual.. For future video idea could it be possible for you to make the c32 amg go against the e46 m3, currently owning a c32 amg and its the best car i've ever had!
But you should have compared with euro M3 Nevertheless I prefer the E36, as I dont really like the looks of the W202 anyways, I do prefer the W201, it look especially from the back much better
I own a C36 and it’s built to last! This car WAS built in the era when Mercedes built immortal cars. It’s also a great sleeper if they don’t see the AMG badge on the back.
WTF is this guy talking about BMW reliability . The e36 and e30 are the most reliable bmws . He actually told you guys every fault that can happen to the car of you don't look after it. And that m3 that he has got is a peace of shit . Someone has beaten the crap out of it . That car on this video was not loved at all!
EU E36 M3 > C36/ C43 AMG > US E36 M3 E46 M3 > C55 AMG E90 M3 = C63 AMG (both the best out of all in my opinion) F80 M3 < C40 AMG (because it’s a 4.0 not 6.2)
The F80 has won more comparative reviews than the C63. The F80 Competition is the better sport sedan, only the Giulia QF can give it a proper match. The W205 C63 is literally the worst handling car of its class
i dont know if it's me but the outside of car shots look better than usual, audio is on point for once too good job Hoovie! I'd take the merc over beemer just for rarity if nothing else, ive never seen one in person
That M3 is a not a good representation. They don't all age that bad, you just bought an abused example. A nice low mileage e36 M3 is a pure joy to drive and worth every penny of 20k. Well cared for high mileage examples take the age well. Two very different cars overall, luxury vs sport coupe/sedan.
I have the exact same BMW, color and all and I love it! Mine is a manual though. I also agree with you on the quality issues you addressed! Great video by the way!👌
Owned them both, a 99' US spec M3 coupe and a 99' C43 ... I'll take the C43 any day. Interior with the Designo black/white is far superior, and although it should have a 6 speed manual you can feel the difference in power regardless of the published performance figures. And my C43 has 140K on it but the only noticeable wear is one the driver side seat. The rest literally looks brand new. Amazing build quality.
no, no, let's be fair, it would need to be a Cadillac or Lincoln of some sort. the Cadillac Cimarron was dead by 1990....maybe a Catera? but that was really a german opel so it's better than a true caddy would've held up.
Same, my 99 M3 is about to hit 200k in a few hundred miles, been in the family since rebuilt from a wreck at 20k in 2001. The black vader seats have held up better than any I've seen online with regular leather treatments, just normal wear creases and cracks mostly on the driver's bolsters, but nothing major like you see. So has the vinyl. What did wear out was the leather on the shift knob facing the driver, which was replaced, and now the top-left of the steering wheel is going next. Somehow all my pixels are ok too, but i had to change the mid-high hk speakers out with bavauto units cause they blew, replace the capacitor that goes bad in the climate control unit as well as the FSU, and now the driver's seat won't move back and forward :/, oh yeah and the dome light developed a loose connection in the light itself. Engine is good, second valve cover gasket, vanos could probably use a rebuild, clutch and trans detent pins at 175k. Garaged in the PNW they're good with regular maintenance till around 160k then you have to start going through the suspension and driveline as the rubber, joints, and bearings start going, worse if it lives outside, but I consider those normal wear items..
I am honestly very curious after watching a petrolicious video on Iso cars. I wonder if we could make a mechanical hypercar i'm talking 0 to 60 in under 3 seconds and over 400kmh. And i mean mechanical to the extent where the odometer is mechanical like a Volvo P1800 on steroids
Great video!! Very informative and entertaining...... do you have a good source for a market values for 1998 C43 AMG? After watching your videos I I am looking at one to buy now.
As a child I was obsessed with the 300ZX... that commercial where the 300ZX was driving around a house with toys... classic - have you ever picked one of these up over the years?
ughyoutookmyusername An UrS4 isn't even a valid comparison with either of these cars. For one, the UrS4 was based on the Audi 100, so it's a larger car than the C class or the 3 series. It's also down on power compared to both the M3 and the C36. I like the UrS cars, but they're not the best comparison here. An RS2 would be perfect, but they're more expensive than either of these cars and not legal for proper importation to the US yet.
inteli722 I wasn't thinking of it as a comparison on chassis size, but I was thinking as a relatively cheap and very fun car (hooptie). I don't think there are any German hoopties (under 10k) as capable as an urs4. For 6k you could get an urs4 like mine that's cleaner and better sorted than either the c36 or e36 that hoovie bought. With mtm stage 1 chips, it'll make similar power, and more torque than either of these two. That extra 50 crank hp is cheap too, I got a whole extra ecu with the chips already put in for $150. Plus there is the fact that urs' came mans-mission only in the US
Tbh I love how the C36 looks, those big AMG wheels really make it
no taste
Yes, the C36 looks much better. The AMG Monoblock wheels top it off
You realise those wheels are aftermarket right? You realise they didn’t make them in 19” back then.
RandomUser M at least you tried
I love this gen of c-class as well. But only if halfway well equipped.
Mercedes sounds better
Because its straight-piped, durr
I mean what do you expect? Mercedes engines always sound amazing
The real winner in this is your mechanic...
For the M3 yes
Actually the M3 is suuuuuuper easy to DIY
@@Freestyler4130 yes but its also suuuper frequent to DIY it
@@MegaDj550 not really a friend owns owns and they are fairly reliable. Of course it is 25 years old so he has to fix things more often but she runs great
pro tip : watch movies on kaldrostream. Been using it for watching all kinds of movies lately.
Plot twist: Hoovies girl friend is Doug's wife
oh shit lol
No...it's Porker's sister
what a twist!!!
Hoovie is actually Doug's girlfriend
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“This BMW is terrible”
Also
“Hey honey, I got you an M3!”
nice surprise car for his gf dont you think? XD
Lol
Rather a M3 not an M3.
Johnny Nimble Nope. I'm not even an English language guy. Sorry. But you have to keep some standards mate:)
Not an argument. Sounds better with 'an'
The US e36 M3 isn't really a real M3
tgms177 yeah, we've heard it before
Wbs vin
And Mercedes has w202 c43 and c55 versions
The C36 was my first car and I wish i never sold it. It was a solid and amazing car to drive.
That AMG sounds better IMO
As an E46 owner, the Merc definitely sounds better. The lower rumble gives it entirely more character. It really is a wantable car
As an E46 owner aswell i do agree with you, but euro spec e36 would sound much better than the amg without a doubt
The AMG in this video has a straight pipe, good ol' Hovie forgot to mention that ;)
Most won't agree with me, but I think that the AMG is better looking. So much more muscular and those rims are awesome. The m3 is a better car, but that AMG looks 2 GUD
Beautiful car, hideous wheels.
I'd rather have the Mercedes. Prices on E36s are getting stupid. Quite frankly though I'd take a Volvo V70R over either of these.
Totally agreed. Or an E46 330i. much better than the E36 M3, and within the same price range
KentB27 iiii
U americans also have to remember unfortunatley you didnt get the real e36 m3 :(
James Wallis This is true. I do like the E36 M3 but it's too expensive and delicate for my tastes.
Right? The USDM E36 M3's are somewhat disappointing. The cosmetic issues aren't too big a deal, but when the car has less power and a 5-speed instead of a 6-speed, I just feel so ripped off.
The AMG is a legend! Greetings from germany and keep up the good content. Love your vids ☺
Merc all day. I want to like BMW, and I do like driving them, but as a total package, Mercs look better, feel nicer inside, and carry a higher class vibe. This Merc looks fantastic when compared to the M3.
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Have to disagree with this one... I think the Bimmer has aged much better
I have both and they're insane
321hp in europe 😜
The e36 or the c36?
@@IcejjfishTbone e36
You forgot to give them a Doug-Score!
American M3 doesn't have actual M engine, it's just souped up 330ci. into the trash it goes
Statusebi no such thing as e36 330ci
328
Statusebi it is m engine just downtuned a bit , because first european m3s had 280 hp and this is 240hp. Later they had 321hp.
So what do you call modern m3s with the same engine as the 335i?
This started at E30 M3 vs 190E 2.3 16V Cosworth. This is second generation of the battle.
I believe he was referring to AMG vs M rather than Mercedes vs BMW
I can see the M vs AMG argument but that seems less significant since AMG is just part of Mercedes now. If it was like an Alpina VS AMG when AMG was an independent company I would he a little more in agreement. I was looking at it as factory sports model vs factory sports model.
You are right indeed sir. First battle was the first gen M3 vs 190e Cosworth. AMG was not yet fully backed by Mercedes though was their biggest non-official tuner.
Love these 2nd gen head to head comparisons.
thats what makes the cosworth so amazing being made by the inhouse tuner company amg in secret with the brands money, making an amazing car, and meanwhile on the other hand bmw made a car just to compete against the amg with the full support of the brand, and while having the knowledge of how the amg was built its not that hard to build a "better" car when u know what to upgrade and where.....
More like Alpina vs Rouse or Brabas
Bmw was 20k cehaper and now is double the price of the Merc...nuff said.
Depends on the country
Merc is better.... nuff said.
Both of these cars can be had for $5k in the US all the time.
Yeah because the owners probably put more money in it so they wanna get it back.
In a sea of junk auto themed TH-cam channels, this has quickly become my favorite. I will take the AMG thanks.
So why are the seats in the C36 in better condition after 20 years than the ones in my GL63 after almost 4?
Maybe your GL has leather interieur, while the W202 had the so called MB-Tex. MB-Tex is a fake leather used by mercedes, since it is more durble and probably alot cheaper.
Abso lutely I didnt have any problems with it and I had it up until last year. The GLS 63 is treating me great so far too
in europe, the E36 M3 made 321hp vs the mercedes C36 276-287hp
And yet in Europe a good C36 will cost a lot more than a good E36 M3.. Funny how that stuff works.
Cause the c36 is a better car and are in better condition...
Also the m3 made that 321hp after a facelift (3.0 to 3.2l); before it was 286hp.
Tried to serch but couldn't even find a c36 for sale at the moment, maybe they rusted away like all 90s MBs
Or the electrical system has melted away like the one I fixed, a friend had a m3 286hp at the same time and my the c36 felt booring in comparsion. More comparable to a other friends m5 e34 3.6, just smaller.
I think the AMG sound better
As a previous owner of an almost problem free BMW 528 from 2009 I really wanted the BMW to win my vote but the interior told a big story! I would now go for the AMG
BMW e36 USA is around 245 hp in Europe 320 hp ????
Adam Hussein u sound dumb
cornelius hernandez macarther might sound “dumb” but it’s true, the US got a less powerful model
Sven Hamacher i didnt say it wasnt true
The U.S. Models got two slightly different motors depending on year/body style. When the E36 came out it had a 3.0 I-6 with 240hp and 225ftlbs, then they got bumped to 3.2 liters and torque rose from 225 to 236ftlbs but hp remained at 240hp. Now Europe also had two variations depending on year, when the E36 came out in Europe it had 286hp and was later raised to 321hp.
You cannot compare the interior on a 20 year old convertible vs a 20 year old sedan. Any 20 year old sedan is going to win that category just based purely from the overall differences in exposure to the elements.
Billy Huddleston ? What do you mean elements. He also said this was not an isolated case, that most taken car of mercs have better interior quality than most taken car of bmw's.
You can on an e36. They fall apart. Having owned both, and being regarded as a BMW guy, trust me when I say BMWs outperform but Mercedes is a true luxury car and built to much higher standards both in quality of materials and over fit, finish, engineering and craftsmanship as soon as you ignore the handling and raw performance of the cars the benz is ahead by a landslide. But the m3 is a much truer sports car experience which is what peoplle want used. Used luxury is an oxymoron. Used performance is hotrodding culture 101.
@@John-shreds unless you're constantly parking it with the top down there not gonna be a difference because the driver covers the seat anyways
The comment section is going to be dank on this one.
Ashish Patel shut up stoner. Nobody respects you.
John Ward scram foul cretin
Hoodie, the type of guy who totally shits on the Beemer and is going to give it to his GF for christmas lol
I think that the Mercedes should have won easily. A proper M3 (not the North American version) would be much stronger competition for the Merc.
But the poor built quality would be still there in the m3..
The European E36's have held up quite well. The North American market E36 M3 had a lighter-duty rear axles and differential, leading to more reliability problems, which would be expensive to fix. The North American E36 M3's also had less reliable engines too. They had completely different engines too. The European versions got stronger camshafts, and a stronger oil pump and sump, but the North American E36 M3's had to make do with a slightly modified M50 engine, and later, a slightly modified M52 engine. And as these engines weren't designed for lots of hard driving, the Euro E36 M3 is a more reliable car for performance driving. Also, the North American cars got cheap plastic headlight lenses which fogged up, instead of glass lenses. And while the euro cars got floating brake rotors, the North American cars didn't, which means reduced cooling, which increases the chances of them warping
Every time he says “the c36” I think he’s saying “this e36” it’s really confusing
AMG sounds better and looks way cooler than the M3, IMO.
Monte Stu my dad had such a C-class before it got crashed twice in a month and he had to give it away. Was a C 280 and every extra option in it possible except for the stupid phone. It looked so damn gorgeous with it’s "emerald black" metallic and the late AMG sport suspension.
I've never clicked off Pornhub so fast.
cutetreytn jeez early bird gets the worm at 10:40am? Haha
Amg hands down!
it's hardly a fair battle, because the M3 for US market was really neutered. to me it's not a real M3.
But that crappy built quality is the same in the m3.
what? both the amg and the m3 lost 20hk/ps on their american version, yet heavier and still only being available as a coupe, which is half a car
Is it possible to undo the de-tuning?
rrr330 it’s not that simple unfortunately. The US spec “M3” has basically a larger displacement version of the same engine as the smaller 6 pot models with a further handful of upgrades called the “S52” The euro spec cars have a completely different bespoke engine with ITB’s that share little in common with the other 6’s in the range called the “S50”
Not true. The E36 M3 was available as a sedan as well in the US.
Hoovie have you ever wondered about another German luxury super power car - Audi?
Regis Garage ya get an a8 for the hell if it
I was thinking about old Audi RS2 . It was collaboratively designed alongside Porsche. .
Regis Garage Not legal to import for a couple of years.
why?
Mercedes.
Merc sounds better out of the two clips.
I would go Benz all day, the E36 just seems to common and boring.
Not boring when you drive a good one ;)
older Mercedes always were built to last. Both are euro cars, over here we don`t expect cars to last much over 100k
Actually shocking to see the difference between those two and the merc has 100k more miles in it for god sakes!
Inline 6 for the win.
They both are inline 6
@@Mercedes_Benz_Bros. yes the last inline 6 by mercedes before thy move to V6 in the w202,too.
my C280 1995 have 193 HP ;) will never sell. great engine !!!
Too bad this isn’t a real M3. A euro 3l will blow the doors of the C36
Then to make the comparison fair, it would have to be the Euro spec M3 vs the AMG C43 which was the better offering of the same car.
And then the more comparable M3 3.2 would still be faster...
I am a bmw fan and have owned several including my newest a 2009 328 coupe. I recently purchased a 2000 Mercedes CLK430 and to my surprise I like the clk better. For all the reasons Tyler has explained. The car seems to be made of the same stuff as “Thor’s“ hammer. It really is tough and way more powerful and reliable than the bmw and I bought for only 3100 dollars.
DAVID COLLINS you adsolutely right, Mercedes benz is way better in quality, I personally own a 2011 E 350 and the car still looks new inside and outside.
I'm driving my buddies 2000 Merc CLK430 and am REALLY impressed by how solid it still seems. How many miles? This one is 150k. Any HUGE gotchas that I need to worry about...oh I forgot to mention he is thinking of selling it to me.
Yet he is dailying his c36 and giving the bmw to his girlfriend... don’t tell us what you think we want to hear, be honest! The Benz is the better car hands down.
Probably because the benz is not even close to as reliable as BMWs from that era and the girlfriend likely wouldn't appreciate being left stranded by it. Though, being that it's a slow as **** US version and on top of that a cabrio with an automatic transmission... it's likely as bad as the benz.
+Karl G Complete opposite. The C36 is more reliable
Karl G, the Merc is the more reliable car. Point has already been made even outside this comp. any European auto mechanic will be witness
Well, hard to believe that things can be the opposite in the US compared to Europe where i am.
He is giving her the BMW because she said she liked it, unlike most of the other cars he owns.
I hate to admit it but that`s not a real M3.
Why do you say that
IcemaN because the European M3 got variable valve timing and 320 horsepower with the evo edition M3, while the American versions only had 240 with no variable valve timing and they didn’t even come with an oil temp gauge
because it`s true. The real e36 M3 has arround 290hp and a completely different engine(S50B30 and later on S50B32)
the american version still got VANOS but it`s not the same
AMG every day.
I much prefer the m3 over the c36. All 3 series were better than c-classes until either the e90 or f30 (much debate) but needless to say Mercedes is killing BMW on every class of vehicle now and I'm totally fine with that because ever since bimmer did away with their NA I6s my love for them was lost. I'd take a c63 over an m3 or m4 any day now.
"Mercedes is killing BMW on every class of vehicle now"
Merc beating BMW:
C-class > 3-series (including C63 and M3&M4)
S-class > 7-series
BMW beating Merc:
5-series > E-class (including E63 and M5)
X1, X3, X5 > GLA, GLC, GLE
Germans have switched their personality recently. AMG is more track focused, M cars are more comfortable
The best example for that is the new F90 M5 versus E63(S) AMG. Based on many reviews BMW has a softer suspension in comfort and is a better daily driver and feels lighter/sharper on the track... WITHOUT competition pack (coming soon)
I love AMGs, but in last ~10 months the new E63S has been like a god in TH-cam comment section. Now BMW beat it with the new (base) M5 and it feels good
the amg sounds better by far
The AMG is straight piped while the M3 is stock ;)
Insure the entire Hooptie Fleet (minus grandma's SL) with Hagerty, (collector value replacement cost added), park them in a barn and set the building ablaze.
here in the UK prices for clean w202 AMG models are getting crazy.
For reference my 1992 454 ss came with 255 horsepower from a 7.4 litre engine. The 90’s were a dark time...
At the same time it was great, we got the Mclaren F1, Lamborghini Diablo and the Ferrari F355 ;)
C36 any day. E36s are arguably the worst M3s, while the worst (c-class) AMG was the C32. Might not be worth as much, but it's the cooler older car.
US E36s*
Kaisuke971 even going by European standards, the E36 is still the least desirable variant.
So glad you're not selling watches
At least Hoovie admits a bias towards Mercedes. Unlike Doug who favors Porsche but doesn't openly say it
You either haven't followed Doug long or haven't been paying attention. Doug is very transparent. He worked for Porsche after all and has shared a lot from it and shared his personal feelings and thoughts. For more, go to autotrader.com/oversteer
Rick Keegan Doug used to work for Porsche so I could see why he has some loyalty to them.
Commenting because comments are good for channels you like.
holy .... the amg is nerfed in usa, it has a 280ps/hk in europe, the bmw allthough is slow here aswell, per usual.. For future video idea could it be possible for you to make the c32 amg go against the e46 m3, currently owning a c32 amg and its the best car i've ever had!
But you should have compared with euro M3 Nevertheless I prefer the E36, as I dont really like the looks of the W202 anyways, I do prefer the W201, it look especially from the back much better
ExeKuTioN Cro but how on earth would he be supposed to get access, let alone _own_ one?
The car that looks and performs better or more to the point functions more reliably IS THE BETTER CAR in the long run. In this case it's The Merc.
I own a C36 and it’s built to last! This car WAS built in the era when Mercedes built immortal cars. It’s also a great sleeper if they don’t see the AMG badge on the back.
WTF is this guy talking about BMW reliability . The e36 and e30 are the most reliable bmws . He actually told you guys every fault that can happen to the car of you don't look after it.
And that m3 that he has got is a peace of shit . Someone has beaten the crap out of it . That car on this video was not loved at all!
Questionable owners lol I feel like doing cocaine just looking at this M3
EU E36 M3 > C36/ C43 AMG > US E36 M3
E46 M3 > C55 AMG
E90 M3 = C63 AMG (both the best out of all in my opinion)
F80 M3 < C40 AMG (because it’s a 4.0 not 6.2)
Ben Mayall *F80 M3, f10 is an M5
V.I.P PLAYERZz I got confused between the 2 xD
Ben Mayall It's alright man hahah I mix this f-series up too
The F80 has won more comparative reviews than the C63. The F80 Competition is the better sport sedan, only the Giulia QF can give it a proper match. The W205 C63 is literally the worst handling car of its class
C36 or M3 ... mhmmm i'd get a V70R
It's like a bluewhale compared to these germas lol...If I wanted space and performance from that era I'd go for the e55 totally...
it's not that much bigger, know a couple of ppl who own E36
i dont know if it's me but the outside of car shots look better than usual, audio is on point for once too good job Hoovie! I'd take the merc over beemer just for rarity if nothing else, ive never seen one in person
Bmw owners are most definitely a class lower , and a few chromosomes closer to early man.
Lol, i'm a big BMW fan but that was hilarious
lmao
you use the wrong generation m3. Try the e46 m3
They both suck imho. If you want a real Mercedes get any CLS
63-5 amg or if you want a BMW then any M5 after 2006.
Id take a manual e36 m3 vs auto Benz any day.
I'm a BMW nut but I think the Mercedes sounds better a bit. I'd pick the BMW though, if you wanted to offer one to me for free.
The cheapest C36 AMG that is offered in Germany is at 6,900€, while they go all the way up to 28,000€.
That M3 is a not a good representation. They don't all age that bad, you just bought an abused example. A nice low mileage e36 M3 is a pure joy to drive and worth every penny of 20k. Well cared for high mileage examples take the age well. Two very different cars overall, luxury vs sport coupe/sedan.
I have the exact same BMW, color and all and I love it! Mine is a manual though. I also agree with you on the quality issues you addressed! Great video by the way!👌
Man I just love the c36 amg. It looks so good and with those wheels! I love it! I’d take that all day over the bmw.
Owned them both, a 99' US spec M3 coupe and a 99' C43 ... I'll take the C43 any day. Interior with the Designo black/white is far superior, and although it should have a 6 speed manual you can feel the difference in power regardless of the published performance figures. And my C43 has 140K on it but the only noticeable wear is one the driver side seat. The rest literally looks brand new. Amazing build quality.
Never liked bmw over priced rubbish if the merc wasent a rot box and wiring loomb was ok they would outlast the bm hands down
You should have added a late 90's chevy cavalier with 250,000 miles so you have a comparable american car in the battle.
79 thump 3.4 Grand Am would be more comparable as far as drivetrain and "power" lol
You are correct sir! I stand corrected.
Good luck lol
no, no, let's be fair, it would need to be a Cadillac or Lincoln of some sort. the Cadillac Cimarron was dead by 1990....maybe a Catera? but that was really a german opel so it's better than a true caddy would've held up.
I'd prefer the Mercedes... apart from all the reasons Hoovie gave it is the one with the star on the hood
That isn’t a proper M3 doesn’t have S52. And it’s an Auto real M3’s have manual box.
c36 is an insane piece of machinery and history . m3 guys sorry ;)
200k miles on my e36, interior and engine both in very good condition, it all comes down to upkeep and maintenance
Same, my 99 M3 is about to hit 200k in a few hundred miles, been in the family since rebuilt from a wreck at 20k in 2001.
The black vader seats have held up better than any I've seen online with regular leather treatments, just normal wear creases and cracks mostly on the driver's bolsters, but nothing major like you see. So has the vinyl. What did wear out was the leather on the shift knob facing the driver, which was replaced, and now the top-left of the steering wheel is going next. Somehow all my pixels are ok too, but i had to change the mid-high hk speakers out with bavauto units cause they blew, replace the capacitor that goes bad in the climate control unit as well as the FSU, and now the driver's seat won't move back and forward :/, oh yeah and the dome light developed a loose connection in the light itself. Engine is good, second valve cover gasket, vanos could probably use a rebuild, clutch and trans detent pins at 175k. Garaged in the PNW they're good with regular maintenance till around 160k then you have to start going through the suspension and driveline as the rubber, joints, and bearings start going, worse if it lives outside, but I consider those normal wear items..
Those AMG aero rims are a thing of beauty.
In mi opinion the C36 is the classic waiting in the wind. It is cheap...now. wait a couple of years
You are a better doug than doug himself.
Id go for Amg
The Mercedes is for the father, the bmw is for the daughter learning how to drive with the top down (while stranded on the side of the road)
AMG all day got lucky and found one of these c36's and picked it up couple months ago
I owned both of them in the past.. I prefer the merc. But that's just my personal opinion. They are both awesome
Engine sound porn starts at 2:20. You're welcome...
I am honestly very curious after watching a petrolicious video on Iso cars. I wonder if we could make a mechanical hypercar i'm talking 0 to 60 in under 3 seconds and over 400kmh. And i mean mechanical to the extent where the odometer is mechanical like a Volvo P1800 on steroids
Great video!! Very informative and entertaining...... do you have a good source for a market values for 1998 C43 AMG? After watching your videos I I am looking at one to buy now.
amg
Tyler the type of guy to go 120 mph with a Dodge Caravan.
Alfa Romeo 164 is a way better built car than the M3.
As a child I was obsessed with the 300ZX... that commercial where the 300ZX was driving around a house with toys... classic - have you ever picked one of these up over the years?
The C63 will definitely become a future classic
Selling this exact car but 99' with 85k miles. Anyone interested?
located norcal
Lol which one
which one, doofus?
oooops, m3
forgot the mercredes was even in the vid tbh, the e36
i'll take the Benz i hate Bus Metro Walk
The Mercedes both looks and feels like a tank. Solid, solid build.
The BMW? Not quite. It looks like it's made out of plastic.
Chima Chinda Mercedes: Luxury
BMW: Power
Jaski Kiiski what a butthurt xD old bimmers are cheap, anybody could have one
Hoovie, you should round out the German big 3 and get an Audi urs4 as well
ughyoutookmyusername An UrS4 isn't even a valid comparison with either of these cars. For one, the UrS4 was based on the Audi 100, so it's a larger car than the C class or the 3 series. It's also down on power compared to both the M3 and the C36.
I like the UrS cars, but they're not the best comparison here. An RS2 would be perfect, but they're more expensive than either of these cars and not legal for proper importation to the US yet.
inteli722 I wasn't thinking of it as a comparison on chassis size, but I was thinking as a relatively cheap and very fun car (hooptie). I don't think there are any German hoopties (under 10k) as capable as an urs4. For 6k you could get an urs4 like mine that's cleaner and better sorted than either the c36 or e36 that hoovie bought. With mtm stage 1 chips, it'll make similar power, and more torque than either of these two. That extra 50 crank hp is cheap too, I got a whole extra ecu with the chips already put in for $150. Plus there is the fact that urs' came mans-mission only in the US
Mercedes sounds meaner
It used to be good until dodge got hold to them now they do what old bimmers used to do
Amg
Ferhari?
The Gated Shifter yeah the eyetalian company
Some one said ferhari earlier wouldent have on rubbish plastic crap over priced fiat pandas unreliable rubbish