Easy memory timings for Hynix DDR5 with Ryzen 7000

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  • @insertnamehere4419
    @insertnamehere4419 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +489

    I wish Buildzoid would make a small PSA about power down mode. Memory context restore MUST be disabled if you disable power down mode, or you will bluescreen. You will bluescreen so bad that's if you manage to get into windows, wonder why, and think it's these memory timings. No, it's power down mode. Go ahead and disable power down mode, but ALSO DISABLE MEMORY CONTEXT RESTORE. MCR on auto, or enabled along with power down mode disabled will cause massive issues. You sacrifice slightly faster boot times, in exchange for ditching power down mode which slightly harms memory latency performance. Please like this post get it to the top, save folks a lot of headache.

    • @prashanthdoshi9926
      @prashanthdoshi9926 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      This !! It helped me !! Thank you so much !!

    • @Lex-vf2fo
      @Lex-vf2fo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Dude yes!

    • @thor8334
      @thor8334 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Hey man, thanks alot, have a nive dau

    • @alanbenyamin487
      @alanbenyamin487 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Let's say I didn't see this message before doing that🤦‍♂️. My pc won't go into windows. What now? Please help 🥺

    • @Lex-vf2fo
      @Lex-vf2fo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@alanbenyamin487 but you did, so did it help?

  • @Heisenberg355
    @Heisenberg355 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Summary (so you and I don't have to skip through the video anymore :D):
    SoC Voltage: 1.25V
    CPU_VDDIO: 1.35V
    MEM_VDD: 1.35V
    MEM_VDDQ: 1.35V
    FCLK: 2033MHz
    tCL/tRCD/tRP: whatever your kit says in its EXPO/XMP profile
    tRAS: 28
    tRC: 68
    tWR: 48
    Refresh Interval (also called tREFI): 50000
    tRFC1/tRFC: 500
    tRFC2: 400
    tRFCsb: 300
    tRTP: 12
    tRRDL: 8
    tRRDS: 4
    tFAW: 20
    tWTRL: 16
    tWTRS: 6
    tRDRDSCL: 4
    tRDRDSC: 1
    tWRWRSCL: 4
    tWRWRSC: 1
    tWRRD: 2
    tRDWR: 16
    Power Down Enable: Disabled (also disable "Memory Context Restore" in order to not get BSOD, maybe it will get fixed someday)
    UCLK DIV1 Mode: UCLK=MEMCLK

    • @ikemyrad
      @ikemyrad 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      FCLK Frequency 2033

    • @Heisenberg355
      @Heisenberg355 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ikemyrad just added it 👍🏼 i also forgot SoC voltage 😄

    • @Iadders
      @Iadders 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ikemyrad that is no longer recommended

  • @RossMorton
    @RossMorton หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Ran these settings for 14ish months, can confirm they were rock solid. Only checking back in because I had to swap my mobo for unrelated reasons!

  • @Mix-ry8bb
    @Mix-ry8bb ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Hi Buildzoid, love the thorough testing of how to get our Hynix RAM in order. Thanks so much, normally never comment but frankly you more than deserve the like + comment engagement for the algorithm.

  • @BitZapple
    @BitZapple ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I'm sure many people need this content right now! Well done.

  • @1BlinkwithAngels82
    @1BlinkwithAngels82 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I really appreciate the videos where you show timings that should be valid for a particular memory module/manufacturer. I used your videos applicable for 3200 CL14 b-die for ryzen to OC to decent timings 3800MHz cl16 and it worked fantastic.

  • @thecooldaniel
    @thecooldaniel ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Thanks so much for this! I am new to AMD and resources like yours have been instrumental in helping me make the most of the hardware!

  • @elcapitano75
    @elcapitano75 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    These timings worked really well for my budget hynix based sticks. Saw a signifigant improvement in Aida memory benchmark, and so far stable even with my DRAM voltages set at 1.25v which is what my kit is rated for at xmp (my ram doesn't have expo support) , Thanks a bunch!

    • @Aleph-Noll
      @Aleph-Noll 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      oh thats fun to hear i think im gonna try this out too!

  • @is3nd
    @is3nd 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Be carefull setting Power Down DISABLE on certain motherboards. Here on B650 Tomahawk with M-Die ram kit if you set PD off and CMR on it will lead in bsods and boot corruption, so POWERDOWN need to be ON if Context Memory Restore is ON. If you corrupt boot with bsod at startup do this: tap F1, then Prompt Command and type exactly this: BOOTREC /FIXMBR, press enter, then type: BOOTSECT /NT60 SYS, press enter, then type: BOOTREC /FIXBOOT, press enter, type EXIT, enter and reboot. Now boot is fixed and windows will start. Thanks me later :) This should be put in description

  • @taramjwi57
    @taramjwi57 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    This worked for me. The hardware unboxed video testing these timings vs expo/xmp led me here. Thanks for making it easy to follow!

    • @rashad5286
      @rashad5286 ปีที่แล้ว

      I confirmed I have hynix memory in Thaiphoon Burner but these settings didnt work at all, when it rebooted after saving just the dram LED comes on. Any ideas?

    • @andreas6870
      @andreas6870 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ⁠​⁠@@rashad5286hi having the same issue with a 6000 Hynix a die, while another kid with m die somehow works… what did you now?

    • @rashad5286
      @rashad5286 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @andreas6870 I swapped cpus for another 7800x3d and it works flawless now. I believe the first cpu had a weak memory controller.

    • @andreas6870
      @andreas6870 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@rashad5286 huh, turns out for me my motherboard just didnt support that kit? i tried running it with expo first, then with the official primary tmings, lastly with custom timings.. nothing worked, so i switched from the "asus tuf b650 plus" to the "msi b650 tomahawk" and it happened to be working just fine.

    • @rashad5286
      @rashad5286 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @andreas6870 Glad that worked for you seems to be alot of factors effecting ram speed then

  • @TheEkcota
    @TheEkcota ปีที่แล้ว +119

    Thank you Buildzoid, I appreciate your content very much! Your hours of time and effort is more than we're worthy of.

    • @eugkra33
      @eugkra33 ปีที่แล้ว

      We are not worthy, oh great one.

    • @ozelotjunior
      @ozelotjunior ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, many thanks for giving some insight in stable timings for an former Intel user. Much appreciated.

  • @scottxiong5844
    @scottxiong5844 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good stuff Buildzoid! Been looking forward to this!

  • @bebosquare
    @bebosquare ปีที่แล้ว +38

    For the longest time I tried to enable EXPO on this same motherboard without luck. Crashes, bios updates, BSOD, etc. I got a different ram kit (which happens to be the same one you got). I used THE EXACT SAME settings you have and no issues since then! I really appreciate it! I have another build but that one has Samsung die which would be amazing if you could “build” expo settings for it since it is the exact same issue I had but on that build. Again, thanks!

  • @jacobh0
    @jacobh0 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you very much for this. This solved my CL30 6000 hynix woes. The expo profile was simply not working on my MSI B650I Edge Wifi and this guide fixed it in one go. So far very stable running memtest. What a lifesaver!

  • @Blackrock18
    @Blackrock18 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was having issues with the EXPO profiles. So far so good with these timings. Thanks!

  • @neilmch
    @neilmch ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for taking the time to do this Video. I have used your guide and it has worked perfect. Great Video. Cheers

  • @stew675
    @stew675 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Appreciate the video.
    The reason why 2033FCLK is faster is because the memory is implicitly run at 6098-6100MHz. The Agesa BIOS versions appear to do this. If we set the FCLK to 1 step higher than the MCLK/1.5, then it'll advance the MCLK to match. This also occurs at 6200MHz with a 2100FCLK, which will result in a 3150 MCLK. We can see this effect if we use ZenTimings. This gives precisely a 2:3 ratio between the FCLK and the MCLK. Yes, while that's not an even ratio, it does mean though that for every 3Hz on the MCLK, that the FCLK is directly in sync at that precise moment leading to improved behavior. A better ratio would be to have FCLK be half of MCLK, but since the MCLK speed is generally limited to 3200MHz at most, the reduction in FCLK speed harms more than it helps. Maybe Zen 5 will be about to hit 4000MHz MCLK, and if so, that'll be the next "sweet spot".

    • @nextjin
      @nextjin ปีที่แล้ว +2

      For whatever reason, 2033 is a good bit slower than "AUTO" for me on the MSI MPG B650I mITX board. All of these timings worked for me other than tREFI (MSI does not list it on this board yet iirc).

    • @jesusraya4484
      @jesusraya4484 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nextjin how do you test?

    • @jesusraya4484
      @jesusraya4484 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nextjin Also, would these timings improve gaming?

    • @nextjin
      @nextjin ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jesusraya4484 what do you mean how do I test? It would crash at 2033 on my mobo. And yes it will improve frame rates. Way less so if you have a X3D chip though.

    • @scamdem1c
      @scamdem1c ปีที่แล้ว

      my computer crashes whenever i disable power down mode. should i just keep it at auto?

  • @H2XBD
    @H2XBD 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, thanks for doing all this research and testing for us. It's extraordinarily helpful

  • @BaldGuyTalks
    @BaldGuyTalks ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks mate, appreciate your work, I learn something new and also useful from each video!

  • @v3xx3r
    @v3xx3r ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I've been waiting so long for this. I have that exact mobo and F5-6000J3238F16GX2-TZ5N ram kit. Running all your settings but primaries are a hair tighter.

  • @PaoloMix09
    @PaoloMix09 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Pretty straightforward, even easier since we pretty much can use same settings as shown. About a 9% faster ram for me and my latency went from 85ns to 70ns. Thank you!

    • @ertai222
      @ertai222 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm getting about 67ns. I guess that's good since you were getting 85+ before.

    • @rickyross9073
      @rickyross9073 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How do you check the latency?

    • @H53.
      @H53. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@rickyross9073Aida extreme, look it up.

    • @jinsk8r
      @jinsk8r 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rickyross9073use Aida64’s Memory and cache benchmark

    • @cleversonhawison1233
      @cleversonhawison1233 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Aida64 você faz os testes la​@@rickyross9073

  • @hbhamilton3
    @hbhamilton3 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing improvements with these settings! I'm running memory tests now.

  • @MoonMage67
    @MoonMage67 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks A LOT for this video, im just about to buy a new system and was looking for something along these lines for a while!

  • @jimmymaika7652
    @jimmymaika7652 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thanks Buildzoid, I followed these settings for my ADATA 64GB XPG Lancer RGB 6000MHz DDR5 on a Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite X motherboard with a 7800X3D. My system seems stable with VSOC of 1.2V (was too scared to bump it up higher due to exploding CPUs) and VDD of 1.35 (as per EXPO profile).
    One thing I found different is that for my Tras, the lowest value I could set was 76. I had no option to set it to 28.

    • @fuckyoutubrforchangingthis
      @fuckyoutubrforchangingthis 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what kinda performance gains did you get? i have the sameeee cpu and mobo

    • @sauravdante1
      @sauravdante1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mine is 30

  • @sphaera3809
    @sphaera3809 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great videos, thank you so much for this easy to follow instructions and making DDR5 tuning easy. Geekbench will immediately show the benefits of low latency in their results. It worked perfectly in my 7900X system using Corsair (Hynix) DDR5. Great performance and stability!! 💪💪💪
    (OCCT doesn’t seem to like it though… weird program)

    • @joelkugatoff7520
      @joelkugatoff7520 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi sphaera, I have a similar system to you. Do you mind telling me what Corsair memory you're using? I have the vengeance 5600 c36 and want to check before I implement the settings.

  • @Saretz
    @Saretz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This video probably saved me and and my house from catching fire, I'm glad I instantly applied these settings first thing first back when I bought my 7800x3d, it was before all the reports even came out. Thank you.

  • @thor8334
    @thor8334 ปีที่แล้ว

    Buildzoid, you are thé man. Thank you mate for all of your content i love so much.

  • @rayw8252
    @rayw8252 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I was able to replicate the exact sub timings on my 13900K system with a G.Skill 5600 CL30 kit (that I tuned to CL28) and it passed all my tests. Reduced the memory latency in AIDA from 67ns to ~61ns. All without touching any voltages. Neat.

    • @silfrido1768
      @silfrido1768 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If I’m trying to get 7400cl34 down to cl 32 how should I go about it

  • @AdrianJReynolds
    @AdrianJReynolds ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thank you! Working perfectly @ 6000 on my 4x16 Dominator kit! Might try to push it a little higher just to see what happens, but super happy that my board can do at least 6000 on 4 sticks at all.

    • @drxpsaucx4157
      @drxpsaucx4157 ปีที่แล้ว

      What mobo are you using if you don't mind me asking

    • @AdrianJReynolds
      @AdrianJReynolds ปีที่แล้ว

      @@drxpsaucx4157 X670 Extreme (Asus)

  • @blgDemon
    @blgDemon 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The content is incredible. Thank you for the video, that is exactly what I was looking for

  • @hbhamilton3
    @hbhamilton3 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just dropped in to say this works exactly as you describe it in the video. After stress testing and several hours of gaming, I have yet to have a lockup. Thank you!

  • @justetan3566
    @justetan3566 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    As always i appreciate your content and im happy to see you seem fine after the break :).
    The reason why 6000 2033 works better is because the A+D agesa has a bug where on some frequencies combinations the actual frequency increases eg: 6000+2033 = 6100 (3050 uclk)
    6200+2100= 3150 uclk, 6200+2133= 3200 uclk, 6400+2167 = 3250 uclk.
    right now I'm able to run 6200+2100 ( which due to the bug with 6200+2100 runs at 6300) with 1.4v on memory and 1.25v on soc, testing to see if I can go lower, 6400 booted but kinda unstable not sure it's vsoc or primaries or rtts tho

    • @c.chepre8452
      @c.chepre8452 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      oh great,i just noticed he is using agesa 1003, so yes,you are right, that also means that the info about 2033 fclk in this video is already outdated because that bug is fixed in 1004.

    • @mikee9167
      @mikee9167 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@c.chepre8452 ohhh that explains why i saw basically 0 difference going to 2033...

    • @chemie7037
      @chemie7037 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@c.chepre8452 Asus does not have 1004 out yet; they pulled the beta. BDZ is running the latest B650E-F BIOS here.

    • @reptilespantoso
      @reptilespantoso ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm on 1003 and there's a noticable improvement. Using a KIngston 64 Gb kit at 6000 MHz, with tight timings.
      I'm not knowledgable enough to see how 1004 would change it. Asrock didn't release 1004 (yet?).

    • @proklet4694
      @proklet4694 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you manage to run 6200 + 2100 stable? For me it crashes in games.

  • @arkama67
    @arkama67 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I think finity fabric is a much more fitting name.
    I'm so happy to see a new mem oc video. Please do one on intel 13th gen next time.

  • @ControllerSupported
    @ControllerSupported 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you, thank you, thank you!! This is the second time using these timings whenever Expo is not running stable. With these settings, and using the EXPO timing, with G.Skill 64GB (2x32) 6000 CL32 on a Tuf B650 plus-wifi, I am having no more crashing, or boot errors. Last time I had to use these eventually BIOS updates came out and I was able to use the Expo settings with no adjustments, but until then, yours run flawless as is.. and they are fast!

  • @discontinuity
    @discontinuity 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    My dumbass bought XMP ram on my AMD build, and this guide got me through hours of issues with ram timings. 10 years since my last build. Got it running at 6200! Thank you.

  • @Tim_Tucker
    @Tim_Tucker 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I couldn't run Windows without errors using Expo and these timings sorted me out! Thanks a ton! I was planning on returning my RAM prior to this. 24GBx2 6400 kit running at 6000 for the record F5-6400J3239F24GX2-TZ5NR

  • @toonnut1
    @toonnut1 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'm still on ddr4 but enjoy these videos

  • @simontemplar8719
    @simontemplar8719 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely thankful for this video and for your efforts.

  • @DerekAldridge1
    @DerekAldridge1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this Buildzoid. I ended up here mainly because three different memory kits wouldn't hit their rated speeds. I had issues with the Samsung kit I had hitting anything over 4800, let alone the EXPO profile. No matter which BIOS I've tried no kit I've had will do anything over 5800, which makes me feel like it's probably my luck in the silicon lottery on my 7950X. Regardless, this helped me tighten the timings if nothing else. EXPO results in unstable memory for me.

  • @Odysseas13LefkonaSt
    @Odysseas13LefkonaSt ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was waiting for such a video! I have a B650E-E and 2x32 Hynix at 6200.
    If I set tRAS below ~40, I get artifacts on the iGPU.

  • @Rooster_0451
    @Rooster_0451 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you for this guide!! I have the same motherboard and 2x16GB DDR5-6000 CL30 Hynix M-Die sitting around just waiting for the 7800X3D to release, - will try to replicate your timings!!

    • @brandyyn
      @brandyyn ปีที่แล้ว

      what ram did you get?

    • @superior96
      @superior96 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@brandyyn If you're wondering what to get, I got today Kinston 5600cl36 (fury beast) 2x16 for 135€. Literally cheapest kit of +5200 kingston I could find. It's Hynix A die, lmao.

  • @Tovenaar
    @Tovenaar 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks a lot! EXPO was giving me random crashes so really needed a fix and this seems to have worked.

  • @danytoob
    @danytoob ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey BZ ... this is great, can't wait to try it out. I've always been kinda timid about tweaking all these settings, but after following your vids for a while (even though most of it flies way over my head..😅) I feel more confident (having the exact sticks your working with doesn't hurt either...lol). much thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience with those of us in MEM TWEAK 101 (well...me at least on this one).
    🖖🏻☮👌🏻 DT

  • @ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking
    @ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking  ปีที่แล้ว +15

    text version: www.patreon.com/posts/low-effort-rank-77403831

    • @rubyproject
      @rubyproject หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would it be alright to add read to read different dim next time? Please, thank you

  • @pawnipt
    @pawnipt ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very interesting, with your settings I'm getting about the same bandwidth as I was able to get with 6200 and 2066 fclk but slightly lower latency with less voltage. Good ram diet.

    • @melheno
      @melheno ปีที่แล้ว

      Whats your bandwith values read/write, copy ?

  • @JohnTwo1
    @JohnTwo1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is precisely what I have needed. Thank you, I even have the same motherboard.

  • @alex-leinauer
    @alex-leinauer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Helped a lot thx!
    My Dominator 6000 didn't run on my X670e creator with standard DOCP 2 and much higher timings, than in your tut!!
    Now timings are much tighter and it runs smoothly

  • @maxzoRHD
    @maxzoRHD 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I was so scared to mess with ram settings, after watching a few od your vids i decided to give it a shot. Explained perfectly, i have been runing cl 30 36 36 28 (everything else copied like in this vid) at 6000mhz with no issues, 1.35v for a few days now. I have a Kingston Renegade kit 6000mhz cl32. (KF560C32RSK2-32). Thank you so much, im so proud i finaly did it 😅. 66.4 NS Latency on AIDA64 Test. And my cpu score increased almost by a 1000 points on Timespy. And games like CS2 and Warzone run so much better, a lot better 1% lows and stutter wise a lot smoother. Max ram temp is 48c when gaming.

  • @Alauz
    @Alauz ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Buildzoid!!! Your guide saved my 7800X3D from burning out. So happens I was using the same SK Hynix Intel RAM as this guide. And setting the Mem controller voltage to 1.35 prevents the burnouts from happening

    • @Lil_Asian
      @Lil_Asian ปีที่แล้ว

      Better waiting for official statements about this shitshow. I completed my build 4 days ago and had to update bios 3 times since...Btw, using this memory timing is stable according to many users including me. Still, haven't heard any of them talking about their Mobo and CPU being burned, mostly from EXPO users.

  • @ohcanada6565
    @ohcanada6565 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant, worked flawlessly, thanks much, amazing how much "slop" there is in stock timings.

  • @TarsoSousa
    @TarsoSousa 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This timings worked like a charm in my kit, thanks you so much for your effort and ramblings haha
    BTW i have the 2x16 Teamgroup Vulcan Alpha 6000 38-38-38-78 1.25v but at 1.35 it runs great at 30-36-36 + your timings

  • @ps3guy22
    @ps3guy22 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Can't wait to see how fast DDR5 gets by the time I'm ready to move to AM5

  • @tscc
    @tscc ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Received my 7950X3D and the Kingston DDR5-4800 ECC 40-39-39-77 modules. Used your secondary timings, put primaries to 32-40-40-28 at DDR5-6000, voltages at 1.2V for VDDSOC (instead of 1.25V) and 1.3V for VDDIO/VDD/VDDQ (instead of 1.35V), and things seem fancy according to memtest86. Thanks for the help.

    • @Kentololable
      @Kentololable ปีที่แล้ว

      Currently trying lower voltages, thank you for this.

    • @Mastermoussa
      @Mastermoussa ปีที่แล้ว

      I am actually a little scared to change anything on the voltage as the 3d chips are very sensitive for these changes. Der Bauer even killed a cpu because of changing the voltages

    • @fnvfanMSPR
      @fnvfanMSPR ปีที่แล้ว

      Saving this

    • @tscc
      @tscc ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Mastermoussa These voltages apply to the IO die only, not the CPU chiplets.

    • @Mastermoussa
      @Mastermoussa ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tscc thanks, did your temps from the CPU also go up in idle?
      Mine went from 40 to 47°C
      And ram from 27 to 37°C

  • @CabritaPedro
    @CabritaPedro 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My PC with EXPO on was freezing after some minutes on windows and restarting without a blue screen, I set these timings and for a good few hours it still didn't happen again. I have a ryzen 5 7600 with teamgroup 2x16gb 6000 cl30. Thank you very much for sharing this information and allowing many people to solve their problem!

  • @hogunclu
    @hogunclu ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the video. I applied exactly same setting for my pc, working flawlessly so far. My setup is like this : 7800x3d, Asus ROG STRIX X670E-E BIOS 1416, Kingston DDR5 32GB(2x16GB) 6000MHz CL40

  • @Savitarax
    @Savitarax ปีที่แล้ว +9

    on my A-die Kit, I can get 4-4 TRRD's working and 8RTP.
    The main thing is you have to raise the SOC voltage ever so slightly and it will start working.
    I had to set mine to 1.22 to get it stable.
    If i tried 1.2 I could only get 4-8 stable,
    Ran Y-cruncher/superpi/linpack/occt for many hours just to verify that 4-4 was stable.
    Figured I would share since I had the same issue with My TRRDL/RTP not cooperating.

    • @ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking
      @ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've tested this kit even with 1.4V SOC and it just doesn't do tRRDL lower than 8. It also needs loose tRRDL on intel.

    • @nguyendinh2052
      @nguyendinh2052 ปีที่แล้ว

      My RRDSCL can't boot with 4, the lowest is 5 but it's unstable. I'm running SOC 1.35v, any idea how to run 4?

    • @Savitarax
      @Savitarax ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nguyendinh2052 for me voltages really were the main key. Cause just like you my A-Die at certain voltages didn’t cooperate at all with anything below 4-7.
      So maybe try increasing it even more. And see if you hit the sweet spot.

  • @randomphysicist6930
    @randomphysicist6930 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    With my 7700x, Asrock b650e Pg Riptide and Hynix A-die (2x16) I've spent several hours to optimize timings one by one and I came up with the same values. In my setup the FCLK is stable at 2100 and Trdrw can easily go down at 14. Unfortunately at the moment Asrock bios doesn't allow to modify Trefi.

    • @selmevias1383
      @selmevias1383 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Update your bios, tREFI and GDM can be screwed with now.

  • @olliebrown89
    @olliebrown89 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for doing this, it's much appreciated.

  • @soulsilver6799
    @soulsilver6799 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm glad i check out this video even if i don't have a ryzen 7000. One of my friend asked me why his pc was failing the memory initialization every day.
    Well, thanks for giving me the right answer without asking!

  • @cr3stf4ll
    @cr3stf4ll ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Can confim that i can replicate this exact settings using ADATA Lancer AX5U6000C3032G-DCLARWH (32x2Kit, 6000Mhz, Hynix A Die), everything is working great as well, i don't even need to change DRAM Voltage. Thanks a bunch Buildzoid!

  • @Dexion845
    @Dexion845 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just used these timings on a pair of Team Group Delta RGB 16GBx2 and all is well. OS is snappier and cranked out more fps in my games on a 7700X

    • @silfrido1768
      @silfrido1768 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have the same sticks, would it work ? I’m on 7400mhz cl34 tho. I’m trying to get the cast latency to cl32 for a 1 & a half minute reduction.

  • @proklet4694
    @proklet4694 ปีที่แล้ว

    Exactly what I needed! Thank you!

  • @powermonkey500
    @powermonkey500 ปีที่แล้ว

    Worked great, zero fuss! Thank you!

  • @Zetzun
    @Zetzun ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very nice timings and easy to run. I've tried to lower the voltages and I am able to run them at 1.1v for SOC Voltage, chances are that the MC voltage can be lowered as well.

    • @subaction
      @subaction ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nice. You're right, VDDIO/MC and VDDQ should both work without issue at 1.25.
      My understanding about SOC is that the amount you're able to lower it varies by individual hardware. Most should be able to do 1.20, some (like yours) can do 1.15 or 1.10.

    • @Zetzun
      @Zetzun ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@subaction I'm doing 1.1v SOC and 1.2v VDDIO/MC. But for the ram sticks themselves I can't go lower than 1.325v without Y-Cruncher giving errors after some hours.

    • @subaction
      @subaction ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Zetzun Sounds right. The RAM doesn't mind and isn't hurt at all by 1.35 or 1.4v. I'd say your setup is working ideally

  • @JaySee5
    @JaySee5 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Disabling Power Down with Memory Context Restore on or auto causes BSODs

    • @Lex-vf2fo
      @Lex-vf2fo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Good lord I wish I found this comment earlier!!!!!
      Kept getting blue screen of death on 2nd boot!

  • @gregbeattie1758
    @gregbeattie1758 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've learned so much from watching you're videos!

  • @fracturedlife1393
    @fracturedlife1393 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy days. Love these.

  • @5pyR17US
    @5pyR17US ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you ! Your settings also work with 4x16GB of G.skill F5-6000J3038F16GX2
    Awesome improvement over EXPO profile 👍

    • @ksenchy
      @ksenchy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you running this kit on AMD?

    • @5pyR17US
      @5pyR17US ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ksenchy yes, on a Strix X670E-E and a 7900X
      Had to drop to 5800MHz though, as I was getting errors with 4 sticks. But it is stable with 2 DIMMs at 6000

    • @ksenchy
      @ksenchy ปีที่แล้ว

      That's what I was going to ask you, I'm thinking of moving AM5 and going 4x16GB and I can't get any serious answers if 6000 will be stable with 4 sticks. All these TH-camrs and media outlets only test 2 sticks 💩
      There are Corsair 2x32GB at 6000MT/s sticks but oh boy CL40 sounds horrible.
      I'm not buying any other brand as no other has hardware RGB profile support.
      I don't know, wait another generation so AMD improves DDR5 memory controllers in next generation or win a silicon lottery so I can run 6000 stable.

    • @icarus33
      @icarus33 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@5pyR17US I have the exact same setup than you, but I can't get EXPO working on mine for nothing with 4 modules (it works with 2). Did you only have to drop frequency to 5800MHz to make it work or there was something else? I also wonder what your BIOS version is.
      Any help is greatly appreciated. I can't get my ram to get past 3600, which is a bummer.

    • @5pyR17US
      @5pyR17US 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@icarus33 1416 is the latest bios allowing my RAM to remain stable with 4 sticks at 6000.
      After this one it was impossible, no matter which settings I tried. I ended up buying 2x32Gb instead and since then my setup is fully stable with these timings at 6000MHz

  • @thesolidsnek8096
    @thesolidsnek8096 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Set this with slightly lower voltages and it still runs flawlessly after bunch of tests

  • @Badger8th
    @Badger8th ปีที่แล้ว

    Just wanted to add my voice to the list of people who this video really helped out. I just built a new system with a 7800X3D and a 4090, and I bought a 6600mhz Corsair kit to pair with it. Well, as soon as I enabled EXPO, got tons of instability and crashes (this is my first AMD CPU, I figured EXPO was just like XMP where you just set and forget and things Just Work. Fool.) Was feeling like I was doomed to stay at stock speeds until I found this video. Did three different memory tests after plugging in your settings (had to bring her down to 6000mhz but that's fine) and seems stable, zero errors or crashes thus far. Thank you so much for making this!

    • @silfrido1768
      @silfrido1768 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The problem with 100% of people is that they didn’t enable high memory support or low bandwidth setting that is implemented in your bios.
      this lets you run high speed kits

  • @ParkerTyler
    @ParkerTyler 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks! This worked great on my 7800x3d and G.Skill memory! I bought the 6400 2x32 kit but only clocked it to 6000 and didn't have to change a single setting from your recommendations (obviously except for my primary timings) Thanks for the help! Super stable overclock!

    • @bobrocks95
      @bobrocks95 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you happen to get a 6400 CL32 kit from G.Skill? That's what I'm looking at though I don't know that the motherboard I'm going to get for my 7800X3D actually can read the XMP profile to pull the primary timings? Figure 6000 CL30 would be easy, maybe even lower since I'm just hoping to get Hynix A die.

    • @AlexXxG91
      @AlexXxG91 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bobrocks95 AMD always supported XMP, before EXPO was a thing... so it should just work :)

    • @SriramVenkatesan
      @SriramVenkatesan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@bobrocks95 same question...any update for the 7800X3D with the 6000 CL30?

    • @SriramVenkatesan
      @SriramVenkatesan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Which one do you use? I am planning to buy a 6000 CL30 G.Skill for my 7800X3D but some variants are hard to come by in Germany especially a White RGB model.

    • @bobrocks95
      @bobrocks95 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SriramVenkatesan Worked fine but couldn't push it to 28 or anything lower. Didn't get any RGB kit though so you'll probably want to ask elsewhere

  • @DirtyAtreyu
    @DirtyAtreyu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Used the exact timings on my rig and got a noticeable performance boost over the regular XMP.
    MOBO: Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI
    CPU: 7800x3D
    RAM: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32GB DDR5-7200 CL34 Memory

    • @ubeii
      @ubeii 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      got essentially the same ram from a different company, did u change your primary timings to what's shown in the video or nah? And did u put it on 6000mhz + 1.2V?

    • @DirtyAtreyu
      @DirtyAtreyu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ubeii ended up going with 6200 CL28 at 1.4v. The timings shown here should work at 1.2v just fine though, and give you 90% the same performance

    • @ubeii
      @ubeii 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DirtyAtreyu kk, thanks!

  • @Anyguy4321
    @Anyguy4321 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Did this with some 36-38-38-96 G.Skill DDR5 6000 sticks, a 7950x3d, and Asus ROG B650e-I motherboard. Works perfectly.

    • @cedden
      @cedden ปีที่แล้ว

      I have the same sticks but a MSI B650 Tomahawk and a 7600x. My BIOS do not let me set tRAS below 30. How did you do that? xd

    • @Drachenmaetzler
      @Drachenmaetzler ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cedden see if there`s a newer bios, I had the same problem with my asrock riptide, where the tras was limited at 30

    • @cedden
      @cedden ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Drachenmaetzler I have the newest version installed. Funnily enough the newest BIOS seems more unstable than the last even though I waited for it to not be the beta version anymore. But by changing the Timings I at least can have both EXPO and Memory Context Restore enabled without any issues or blue screens like before. Also I have seen people on Reddit saying they got their system to boot instantly by changing the timings to 36-36-36-72. Unfortunately didn't work for me.

  • @15muffinz
    @15muffinz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thank you man. I've heard mentions of you all over the internet and then I found you here... fingers crossed........ this computer was way too expensive to just have it run okay-ish most of the time... ya kno

  • @DamisGame
    @DamisGame ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video. Thank you so much.

  • @Broodyr
    @Broodyr ปีที่แล้ว +30

    FYI, disabling Power Down Mode made my system incredibly unstable - would blue screen on/just after boot over half the time, and even freeze in bios frequently. Took a while to narrow it down, but that seems to be it

    • @OMH1314
      @OMH1314 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for the heads up, I never considered that it could be the culprit for my crashes and freezes in BIOS. Maybe without it I can give it another try.

    • @MrShnig
      @MrShnig ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Try disabling MCR.

    • @carlb641
      @carlb641 ปีที่แล้ว

      Were you able to make it work with it disabled?

    • @SmellsLikeNirvanna
      @SmellsLikeNirvanna ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrShnig what is mcr

    • @MrShnig
      @MrShnig ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SmellsLikeNirvanna memory context restore.

  • @PaulDiracTWR
    @PaulDiracTWR ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have 2x16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum, CL30 version. Hynix.
    on Aida64 memory benchmark I got following results:
    Expo:
    Read: 77914MB/s | Write: 76244MB/s | Copy: 68462MB/s | Latency: 69.5ns
    Buildzoid profile:
    Read: 88496MB/s | Write: 92345MB/s | Copy: 79040MB/s | Latency: 61.8ns
    So definitely a huge improvement, thanks a lot for this video!

  • @graysoncarlyle2399
    @graysoncarlyle2399 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you for your time and effort! I would love to see timing setups for Samsung memory. EXPO is not really working for me with Corsair's CMK32GX5M2D6000Z36 Kit, on my ROG CROSSHAIR X670E HERO mb.

    • @MoosePlus
      @MoosePlus ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bit late with the reply but I had the exact same issue with the same kit, swapped it for G.Skill F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5NR as i was in the returns window and so far it's been great

    • @graysoncarlyle2399
      @graysoncarlyle2399 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MoosePlus Thank you for the reply! What motherboard are you using?

  • @kris2882
    @kris2882 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dropped my latency from 72ns to 61ns. Well done, Buildzoid!

  • @reptilespantoso
    @reptilespantoso ปีที่แล้ว

    YES! thank you so much! Going to make a coffee and dig in.

  • @thewatcher1731
    @thewatcher1731 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These settings also work for 6000MHz 2x32gb which are dual rank. Only thing different i did was oc to 6200mhz and dropped tcl 30, trp&trcd 37. This was on a 7800x3d oc'ed to + 5% and vsoc @ 1.26 in bios and under heavy load doest go over 1.305v in occt but aida64 has not exceeding 1.296v.

    • @Mr8GiF
      @Mr8GiF 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are you running Gskill memory?

  • @imadecoy.
    @imadecoy. ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This will be useful soon! What do you think of this board?

  • @kakarottosupersayin8
    @kakarottosupersayin8 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    cool i cant even get into my bios anymore after following these settings and now i have to figure out more, thanks

  • @ryancharles9375
    @ryancharles9375 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video

  • @Gr1s0s
    @Gr1s0s 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Another similar video with the latest BIOS would be nice.

    • @Shafy7
      @Shafy7 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Did you find it any video ?

  • @Polyh3dron
    @Polyh3dron 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Have any of these recommended settings changed with the new AGESA? Curious to know how it has affected them and would love to see a new update video on it.

  • @Bdmfk
    @Bdmfk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You sir are an absolute legend, I was ready to return my kit but said it was worth a shot to try your settings. Save and restart and guess what it booted up right away. A blessings from the lord 😂😂 Thank you, life saver.

  • @LiamFoot
    @LiamFoot 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you very much for this information. It all works great with my 2x48GB 6000MHzC32 kit :-)

  • @freak6714
    @freak6714 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    After hearing that it is very difficult to deal with ddr5, I did not expect that it would be so easy. Thanks for that. can you share 7950x settings for Asus motherboard for the safe and better multi-core performance?

    • @MyNameIsJaredGates
      @MyNameIsJaredGates ปีที่แล้ว

      Just come through the video and copy, thats what I did. I have a 7950x with an Asus x670 pro wifi and the settings worked fine.

  • @scottschweigert1657
    @scottschweigert1657 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    do one of these for dual rank!

  • @creepyredowl2027
    @creepyredowl2027 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks, really appreciated, works OK on G.Skill Z5.

  • @vigilant_1934
    @vigilant_1934 ปีที่แล้ว

    Much appreciated information.✌️

  • @igorgrabussov1731
    @igorgrabussov1731 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great and useful vid BZ, appreciate it!
    Any thoughts on GDM setting (ADDR_CMD_Mode for ASUS). I've read that disabling it (setting to BUF) can improve latency?
    P.S.: Would be awesome to get a vid on how to best push m-die to 6200/6400 with emphasis on MC, IF and CPU voltages.

    • @temporoyale6251
      @temporoyale6251 ปีที่แล้ว

      At least on zen 3 it was know to improve performance because GDM does some strange interactions with command rate, so even if you had 1T on the command rate, in reality it was performing like 2t (or worse) if the GDM was enabled

    • @Kestrelms
      @Kestrelms ปีที่แล้ว

      @@temporoyale6251 GDM On is more like 1.5T and gives you ability to get some higher MHz and timighter timings to boot, it's not worse than 2T for sure.

    • @temporoyale6251
      @temporoyale6251 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kestrelms yeah, you are right, but I remember a know memory overclocker (Veii) testing the performance of GDM, and in some cases, not all, GDM on would perform worse than 2T

    • @Kestrelms
      @Kestrelms ปีที่แล้ว

      @@temporoyale6251 I did myself tests on dual rank micron E-dies.

    • @ontheedge18
      @ontheedge18 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kestrelms i can back him up GDM ON does indeed have some horrible flaws when you overtight some timings like tRRDL 4 instead of 6 , tWTRL 8 instead of 10 and tRDWR / tWRRD ratio if you use lower tCWL than tCL. might be just a dual ranked issue. in my experience i would use a lower frequency with gdm off than a higher one with gdm on.
      might be a specific motherboard / ram issue, might be something else but the issue is there.
      Edit: GDM ON feels like a fake stable settings on some rare situation, doesn't throw errors but gives significant worse result than 2t.. not to mention 1t pure. For some reason most overclockers and AMD recommend GDM ON for Dual Rank kits, based on my experience i don't.

  • @aphysically6071
    @aphysically6071 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    In light of the memory voltages being the rumored problem child for X3D CPUs dying, do you still feel good about the 1.25V here? And what of the other voltages? I think that's lower than what it's rumored to go if you leave it on EXPO.

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its scary for sure ;/ Makes me never turn Expo... or until they fix it.

    • @Lil_Asian
      @Lil_Asian ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They forced the number down to 1.30 in the latest bios. So I think 1.25 is more than just safe. Maybe anything below 1.4 is safe, idk.

  • @VasiliyGolt
    @VasiliyGolt ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much! You are the best!

  • @TheFeelTrain
    @TheFeelTrain 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Copied these exact settings for a cheap Team Group 5600 CL32 kit and it works perfectly. I was even able to get it to run at 6000 without changing any of the primary timings.

  • @thedealer799
    @thedealer799 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Couldn't take the long boot times. Set memory context restore and power down mode to enabled again. Fixed boot times (about 35s). And latency only went from 61ns to 63ns.

  • @Sheltada
    @Sheltada ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Used the gskill 6600mhz cl34 1.4v kit as an a die source on my msi x670e carbon. It performs amazingly. Oddly though, my board would not let me set tras to 28. For whatever reason the minimum value the board would let me set was 30. Still seems to work just fine though.

    • @malborboss
      @malborboss ปีที่แล้ว

      How did you set your primary timings?

    • @fnvfanMSPR
      @fnvfanMSPR ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here. Lowest tras is 30

    • @fuckyoutubrforchangingthis
      @fuckyoutubrforchangingthis 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@fnvfanMSPRsame, b650 auros elite AX mobo + 7800x3D cpu....

    • @fnvfanMSPR
      @fnvfanMSPR 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fuckyoutubrforchangingthis It's normal apparently. Set it to 30

    • @fuckyoutubrforchangingthis
      @fuckyoutubrforchangingthis 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fnvfanMSPR you sexy beast, answered just in time, tysm

  • @user-zb7gf5vj3r
    @user-zb7gf5vj3r 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The best video. Thank you sir.

  • @ThirdLife86
    @ThirdLife86 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks, helped me a lot. Tried to get it stable with my 6400Kit but couldn't do it and had to clock down to 6000. Then as said your settings worked without flaw ! Massive 22.5% lower latency, about 18-20% for transfer speeds.
    I am just too stupid to understand the black magic behind this Memory Tuning stuff.