"and that's why this lock was fairly easy to pick." Easy for LPL! Not for normal people. Not even for skilled normal people. I'm starting to think we are all looking at one of the greatest Lock-Pickers of all time.
Will the bonus points change you, do you think? Try not to totally lose contact with the old neighbourhood, they stood by you when you were poor, remember.
Nice video on disks locks. Great to see it gutted. It would be wonderful if you could do cut away disk core showing your tool picking each disk. That would be very educational.
"Not too difficult to pick" *pulls out custom-made picking tool for these sort of rotating-disc locks* Truly a reminder that nothing is ever really safe behind a lock. The lock will only slow down a determined thief..
@@WAZXIII I have a lacking knowledge of lock-picking tools, so I can't really say much. Regardless, he *did* produce a tool that just looks wack. At least, to me, the uninitiated person.
While the new pinning tray is nice to try a change, I miss the original metal tray and the satisfying sounds it makes when parts are placed. The new tray material just sounds too flat.
I dont know why I'm watching these videos, but now I really want to start learning how to lock pick just for hobby. Also, its pretty cool how much detail can be talked about for something so simple like locks. Who could have guessed locks were so interesting?
A lock from the UK... makes you proud to be British! We seem to have quite a few disc detainer locks for things like bicycle and steering wheel locks and the like.
That sticker is so shoddy! I won't be buying that lock any day soon but better than most Chinesiums.✌ I love Bill's new handiwork, do we get a cool tray too.😁🤞 Lol.
Next time please put a link to where to buy it,looks good for the price and maybe get into affiliated links with Amazon so you get a cut every time someone buys something with your link.
I was driving Lyft last night, and when my passengers and I passed beneath the I-405 Fremont bridge in NW Portland, OR, we saw a suspicious character hovering around the door of a large, white SUV. "That looks suspicious," I said. "Yeah," agreed the frontseat passenger. I turned right onto NW Thurman, but the road was closed 100 feet ahead. I backed up to NW 15th to try another road. The passenger peered into the right rearview mirror when I backed up. "Yep, he's breaking into it..." I thought of you, smiled, and drove on, chuckling.
I,d liked to have seen a close-up of those discs. I know what a false gate is ... but I'd like to see it explained in close-up detail. I'm still trying to pick the Esquire 440 Padlock. They were once mass-made not too far from where I live. (U.K.)
I'm new to the LockPickingLawyer and the videos are simple yet great. No crap, just straight to the point and fun! I never imagined a lock to be picked with a Lego figure lol. And plus I love the video organizing with the numbers. A couple comments here tell others to go to video number whatever which is so useful instead of wasting time looking for it. Nice work :)
Would love to see you pick a lock like this but in a cutaway type setup. Help me understand what your feeling and saying when you pick locks like this.
This is interesting take on the DD principle; the key would suggest that there are more discs than there are. The last disc in the lock is a fixed 5 disc and it has a large space behind it that the 0 cut on the tip of the key goes in. I am guessing that this is for key retention as when rotated 90 degrees the 0 cut will be trapped behind the fixed 5 disc. And yet there is no actual 0 disc at the rear, it is driven from the front. So it would be possible to tension that fixed 5 disc, if you wanted.
Love your video as always. I'm not sure if you've made a video on this already, but at what point does pick-proofing stop being economical for the manufacturer? i.e at what point does a lock become so hard to pick that any potential miscreant would simply cut/melt it?
... but will that tool fit under the plate steel outer body of the box that little lock is made to fit in? That lock is specifically for shipping containers / trailers with a steel lock box on the door. I checked the clearance on my container, and I am dubious. Still great job picking it.
I just received my very first lock picking kit and picked my first lock today! Now I just need to pick another million or so locks and I'll be just as good as LPL :-)
You should do a video every 6 months on the best locks you recommend for the price. Have you ever found a lock you couldn't pick? I don't fancy watching hundreds of videos to find out.
Is there a combination padlock that you would recommend? I was thinking of getting the master locks but after watching you devastate them within seconds I lost interest quickly. Great videos by the way!
Does anyone know if LPL has made any videos of him putting a lock back together after he's disassembled it? I think that might be interesting to see. Watching him work is like watching magic! LOL. Great videos!
I would use this lock. If the body is good that is. The shape is good. I would personally add false gates to it with a little file. Picking is not currently a real world threat.
Just found this channel, always interested in lockpicking. I was wondering how safe my Titanker bike lock was and how easy it is to decode it. Maybe a good future video idea!
Looking at this lock, you can see exactly how it would go back together. Only a little harder than taking it apart - probably the only tricky bit is getting the sidebar and core back in.
Yes. Tension wrench you can make from a window wiper insert. Just cut to length and bend an end. Some people make picks from paper clips or other similar thin bits of metal you can shape to what you want but I bought a starter kit thats really good online for about 12 euro. That included a bunch of picks and a see thru practice lock. Great for the price. I believe LPL has a video where he reviews the kit i metion and was impressed with it🙂good luck👍
@LockPickingLawyer is there a possibilty that you and bosnianbill offer your new discdetainer tool to Multipick too so that we in Europe can enjoy it more easily? That would be great! Greetings from Germany
Do these disc locks tension in the back? If you didnt have that awesome tool😊 what would you be using or does it have to be a dedicated disc lock pick?? Nice vid and picking, thanks👍
They make similar picking tools that are cheap (Chinese) but they have their limitations. Watch the first video from the pick build series and I think they discuss the issues with the Chinese picks
I suspect the shoddy "rebranding" is because the lock was made after hours as a "ghost run": a UK firm designed and ordered the lock and someone at the factory made a bunch of extras to sell off the books. The "rebranding" only needs to be good enough to hide it from the original firm in the Amazon listing. In a slightly backhanded way, someone out there must appreciate the design.
Looking for a padlock for an outdoor set of chains (the chain link is fairly thick stuff; I can't cut through it with anything but an angle grinder) without breaking the bank. I want a lock that can't be bypassed or shimmed or raked. What am I looking at, and what's the price point going to be? I honestly have no idea what locks are considered "good" anymore after binge watching both you and Bosnian Bill.
Is there a reason that all the disks need to be rotated clock wise first or can it be rotated the other way or does that not work? Forgive me I don’t have anylocks like this one yet. Also FYI love the channel!
I would be interested in a lock part and lock-picking terminology video from you. Love your videos but some of the things as a causal person watching your videos I'm not aware of what they mean.
Ok... so I just found this channel, SUPER IMPRESSED and I am now subscribed! BUT, after watching about 18 videos, is there any lock worth investing in? I now have zero faith in any locks in my house :/
Locks don't have to be perfectly strong, just strong enough to not be the weakest point of failure. On a house, burglars aren't likely to try picking when they can just break through a window, for instance. Most commercial door locks are good enough, and even a Masterlock is a visual deterrent on a toolbox, though there's nothing wrong with going up a step or two for your own peace of mind. That said, please don't give money to Masterlock or their subsidiaries, if only for a personal "vote with your wallet" reason from the locksport community.
Did a quick scroll through your videos. I didn’t see but maybe didn’t look hard enough, have you done the Sesame brand combination locks? I get them from Tacoma Screw. Watching you walk through these locks like they not even in there as a little disconcerting. I live in Washington state and our legislature has passed i1639 which contains, among many other egregious nonsense, requires safe storage of firearms. It specifies locks or safes that can’t be opened with “common tools”. After watching your videos it would seem literally impossible to comply. Are there any locks that might actually comply?
There's sumbin strange about that rebrand. Did this cost more than the multisafe equivalent? If so, the rebranding company isn't one I would buy anything from.
All in all, not a bad lock for $17 or so, I really only know 2 people with a tool Bosnian Bill and LPL made =) Speaking of Bosnian Bill, him picking up a CNC is sort of scary if I was a lock.
Can you recommend a good shutter lock available in Europe? Hardened-steel body, hardened shackle 7mm in thickness (cannot be thicker) and with a highly pick-resistant core. Drill-protection disc would be nice. Which is the best one you have encountered?
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It’s so satisfying when you hear the clicks while he’s picking.
"and that's why this lock was fairly easy to pick." Easy for LPL! Not for normal people. Not even for skilled normal people. I'm starting to think we are all looking at one of the greatest Lock-Pickers of all time.
@asd fgh It's simple factoring, just don't know if it's by 100 or 1,000.
Just pull out a few extra hands and get to work, you'll learn much faster this way.
He actually was bet he couldn’t do it in less than three, so he upped the tension and got it in a minute and ten.
I'd love to see LPL in the European competition. The top German pickers are scary good.
Also bear in mind that he's working on these while narrating a video, and I can't remember any time he has had to stop talking to concentrate.
Plot twist: he forgot which lock that key goes to, and indirectly asked us
Ha!
LOL
BMW X. 😂😂
He didn't deny it 🤔
@@lockpickinglawyer Abus 82/63?
Edit: Nevermind. Just saw the 36/65 comment and confirmation.
I care nothing about locks nor their ability to be picked... but dang it I can’t stop watching these videos
I’ve watched loads of your videos, and today i broke into my first bank and got the money keep posting so I can get more money. Thank You 🙏
Don't forget to support LPL.
Liar
LOL. 😁
You wouldn't put yourself out there like that
@@mkhontowesizwemonoalibe7798 You do realise that he was being sarcastic, don't you?
Looks like an Abus 36/55 key
- Nice picking as always!
Nathan Rowlett You were the first to guess correctly... an old Abus 36/55. 👍
Bonus points for you. Go to the head of the class.
Will the bonus points change you, do you think? Try not to totally lose contact with the old neighbourhood, they stood by you when you were poor, remember.
The dude with a yiff profile pic would just happen to know this. Strange world
You get a star!
Could you try to add false gates yourself to this lock? That would be interesting experiment
I second that. Sounds like an interesting subject for a video
Henrix98 you could. I discussed this possibility in video 571 iirc.
LockPickingLawyer how do you remember that
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@@tacocow6122 I wonder how far back his mental catalog of videos goes.
Thank you for gutting this lock. I don't follow too many locksmith style channels, so seeing a gutting of a disc lock is quite a rarity for me.
I second that. I would like toes how the pool actually picks the disks.
Nice video on disks locks. Great to see it gutted. It would be wonderful if you could do cut away disk core showing your tool picking each disk. That would be very educational.
Yes I agree that would be great to see.
Love your channel. I really never thought about locks until i subscribed. Very very interesting.
"Not too difficult to pick" *pulls out custom-made picking tool for these sort of rotating-disc locks*
Truly a reminder that nothing is ever really safe behind a lock. The lock will only slow down a determined thief..
The only thing a lock decides is if you need a new lock or a new door or if the perp just goes for the next door. Which is what you want.
Lance, To be fair, there are non-custom tools to pick disk detainer locks (check out vid 808). This is just one that he designed.
@@WAZXIII I have a lacking knowledge of lock-picking tools, so I can't really say much. Regardless, he *did* produce a tool that just looks wack. At least, to me, the uninitiated person.
Locks only keep honest people out. Guns and alarms take care of the rest!
This really seems to be a capable little lock.
Locks: I fear no man. But that thing... it scares me.
*LockPicking Lawyer just uploaded*
I think the lock will stop most people, few will have such special lock picking tools! Thank you.
Love to see a well made lock like this - fantastic quality for not too much money.
Not only could I never pick locks like lpl, I couldn’t even hold tweezers steady to take discs out of a core like lpl
While the new pinning tray is nice to try a change, I miss the original metal tray and the satisfying sounds it makes when parts are placed. The new tray material just sounds too flat.
I dont know why I'm watching these videos, but now I really want to start learning how to lock pick just for hobby. Also, its pretty cool how much detail can be talked about for something so simple like locks. Who could have guessed locks were so interesting?
Thanks for gutting this one. I started watching your channel for all the gut videos because I just find the lock construction interesting.
A lock from the UK... makes you proud to be British!
We seem to have quite a few disc detainer locks for things like bicycle and steering wheel locks and the like.
"BosnianBill gave me these pinning trays" and then use one when disassembling a non-pinned lock 😀
That sticker is so shoddy! I won't be buying that lock any day soon but better than most Chinesiums.✌ I love Bill's new handiwork, do we get a cool tray too.😁🤞 Lol.
Probably for a cool 50 bucks!
Sumbin Wong?
Your videos are the reason why I am great in lockpick !
This dude is a jerry rig everything but with locks
AMAZING🔥🔥👌🏻👌🏻
Next time please put a link to where to buy it,looks good for the price and maybe get into affiliated links with Amazon so you get a cut every time someone buys something with your link.
There don't seem to be any on Ebay or Amazon. He must have got the last one.
I was driving Lyft last night, and when my passengers and I passed beneath the I-405 Fremont bridge in NW Portland, OR, we saw a suspicious character hovering around the door of a large, white SUV.
"That looks suspicious," I said.
"Yeah," agreed the frontseat passenger. I turned right onto NW Thurman, but the road was closed 100 feet ahead. I backed up to NW 15th to try another road.
The passenger peered into the right rearview mirror when I backed up. "Yep, he's breaking into it..."
I thought of you, smiled, and drove on, chuckling.
Did you consider calling the police?
@@boiledelephant Yes.
"Not sure what's holding us up here"
*lock starts sweating profusely*
I,d liked to have seen a close-up of those discs. I know what a false gate is ... but I'd like to see it explained in close-up detail.
I'm still trying to pick the Esquire 440 Padlock. They were once mass-made not too far from where I live.
(U.K.)
I'm new to the LockPickingLawyer and the videos are simple yet great. No crap, just straight to the point and fun! I never imagined a lock to be picked with a Lego figure lol. And plus I love the video organizing with the numbers. A couple comments here tell others to go to video number whatever which is so useful instead of wasting time looking for it. Nice work :)
Would love to see you pick a lock like this but in a cutaway type setup. Help me understand what your feeling and saying when you pick locks like this.
This is interesting take on the DD principle; the key would suggest that there are more discs than there are. The last disc in the lock is a fixed 5 disc and it has a large space behind it that the 0 cut on the tip of the key goes in. I am guessing that this is for key retention as when rotated 90 degrees the 0 cut will be trapped behind the fixed 5 disc. And yet there is no actual 0 disc at the rear, it is driven from the front. So it would be possible to tension that fixed 5 disc, if you wanted.
Love your gutting videos. Please continue making them regularly.
Love your video as always. I'm not sure if you've made a video on this already, but at what point does pick-proofing stop being economical for the manufacturer? i.e at what point does a lock become so hard to pick that any potential miscreant would simply cut/melt it?
Well done as always LPL. I am still taking my first baby steps into disk locks.
me watching LPL feels like i'm watching a dentist doing a dental treatment, it's weird
Nice design on the tray. Having a core holder is a great asset
Very cool lock MrL.P.L
... but will that tool fit under the plate steel outer body of the box that little lock is made to fit in? That lock is specifically for shipping containers / trailers with a steel lock box on the door. I checked the clearance on my container, and I am dubious. Still great job picking it.
I just received my very first lock picking kit and picked my first lock today!
Now I just need to pick another million or so locks and I'll be just as good as LPL :-)
the hey you hold is from a Abus model 41 that Bill just featured in his most recent video.
sorry everyone i meant key
Nope... the 41 never had the cut out bow or six pins. The answer was already guessed: 36/55. 👍
The real question is, could this be done without that special pick?
You should do a video every 6 months on the best locks you recommend for the price.
Have you ever found a lock you couldn't pick?
I don't fancy watching hundreds of videos to find out.
Is there a combination padlock that you would recommend? I was thinking of getting the master locks but after watching you devastate them within seconds I lost interest quickly. Great videos by the way!
Does anyone know if LPL has made any videos of him putting a lock back together after he's disassembled it? I think that might be interesting to see. Watching him work is like watching magic! LOL. Great videos!
Bosnian Bill has one like that.
Great picking as always, thanks for the review!
"Next I'll try with this uncooked strand of spaghetti..."
"and then, to make sure it wasn't a fluke, we will do it again, however this time with a cooked piece!"
Picked one up on Amazon, just a cool lock!! No tools to pick it yet but soon..
Can't find any info on Multisafe - the OEM marking shows 'UK' which is interesting... looks nicely made from this end of the video anyway.
always like to see locks gutted thank you
I would use this lock. If the body is good that is. The shape is good. I would personally add false gates to it with a little file. Picking is not currently a real world threat.
This dude's a wizard!
This guys a genius. He creates criminals and then takes money from the victims
Just found this channel, always interested in lockpicking. I was wondering how safe my Titanker bike lock was and how easy it is to decode it. Maybe a good future video idea!
Do you put the locks back together yourself after you take them apart? If so, how hard/difficult is it to put disassembled locks back together?
Batt good question. Reassembly would be a nice addition to these videos.
I think its more a case of having the right tools.
Looking at this lock, you can see exactly how it would go back together. Only a little harder than taking it apart - probably the only tricky bit is getting the sidebar and core back in.
What are you suggesting, to start practicing picking. On low to non budget. Can i make my own tools?
Yes. Tension wrench you can make from a window wiper insert. Just cut to length and bend an end. Some people make picks from paper clips or other similar thin bits of metal you can shape to what you want but I bought a starter kit thats really good online for about 12 euro. That included a bunch of picks and a see thru practice lock. Great for the price. I believe LPL has a video where he reviews the kit i metion and was impressed with it🙂good luck👍
@@diggerlenny4836 thanks mate :). Any tips for actual picking?
@@CHALLENGER3000 Watch LPL's video about tensioning. Bad technique at tensioning is the biggest mistake for new pickers.
@@insanejughead oki
You can buy a great lockpick set from eBay which only cost 3-10 bucks
Can you make a video on the different locks you WOULD recommend, based on type, purpose and price range?
Pleasant surprise this little lock
@LockPickingLawyer
is there a possibilty that you and bosnianbill offer your new discdetainer tool to Multipick too so that we in Europe can enjoy it more easily? That would be great!
Greetings from Germany
No idea what you are talking about most of the time but i like your vids
Do these disc locks tension in the back? If you didnt have that awesome tool😊 what would you be using or does it have to be a dedicated disc lock pick?? Nice vid and picking, thanks👍
They make similar picking tools that are cheap (Chinese) but they have their limitations. Watch the first video from the pick build series and I think they discuss the issues with the Chinese picks
Very nice. It'll give me a hope that you can crack open the best Abloy can offer.
This guy is a surgeon
I suspect the shoddy "rebranding" is because the lock was made after hours as a "ghost run": a UK firm designed and ordered the lock and someone at the factory made a bunch of extras to sell off the books. The "rebranding" only needs to be good enough to hide it from the original firm in the Amazon listing. In a slightly backhanded way, someone out there must appreciate the design.
Looks like a new pinning tray is needed for these increasingly more common disc locks.
It's been too long since we got to see a nice lock gutting. Hopefully more to follow.
Looking for a padlock for an outdoor set of chains (the chain link is fairly thick stuff; I can't cut through it with anything but an angle grinder) without breaking the bank. I want a lock that can't be bypassed or shimmed or raked. What am I looking at, and what's the price point going to be?
I honestly have no idea what locks are considered "good" anymore after binge watching both you and Bosnian Bill.
Jerry rigs of the padlocks
Is it a Key to my Heart?
No homo though.
If you don't have the key, how do you pick it?
After Watching his videos now i know that locks are only for psychological Satisfaction 😂😂
It may be easy to pick with that custom made pick, but could you try to pick it with a commercially available picks?
Yes... but some minor modification to the pick would probably be required.
I saw non rotating disk in classic Abloy. Usually there was at least one rotating disk behind it
What lock pick set stands out when it comes to a well rounded set for all locks while also being of decent quality
I really like that pinning tray that you have I'm going to see if Bosnian bill would make me one of them I'd be willing to pay for it.
Is there a reason that all the disks need to be rotated clock wise first or can it be rotated the other way or does that not work? Forgive me I don’t have anylocks like this one yet. Also FYI love the channel!
I would be interested in a lock part and lock-picking terminology video from you. Love your videos but some of the things as a causal person watching your videos I'm not aware of what they mean.
super impressive tool and skills :)
I don’t even like lock stuff I have no clue how you ended up in my recommended but still I kinda like it
@lockpickinglawyer when will this tool be available? I remember the announcement of you working with sparrows but that's the last I've heard.
Link to a product on Amazon would have been awesome!
Ok... so I just found this channel, SUPER IMPRESSED and I am now subscribed!
BUT, after watching about 18 videos, is there any lock worth investing in? I now have zero faith in any locks in my house :/
Locks don't have to be perfectly strong, just strong enough to not be the weakest point of failure. On a house, burglars aren't likely to try picking when they can just break through a window, for instance.
Most commercial door locks are good enough, and even a Masterlock is a visual deterrent on a toolbox, though there's nothing wrong with going up a step or two for your own peace of mind.
That said, please don't give money to Masterlock or their subsidiaries, if only for a personal "vote with your wallet" reason from the locksport community.
they did a nice rebranding job on that lock
Is the tool you and Bosnian Bill designed available to be purchased by the public?
Did a quick scroll through your videos. I didn’t see but maybe didn’t look hard enough, have you done the Sesame brand combination locks? I get them from Tacoma Screw. Watching you walk through these locks like they not even in there as a little disconcerting. I live in Washington state and our legislature has passed i1639 which contains, among many other egregious nonsense, requires safe storage of firearms. It specifies locks or safes that can’t be opened with “common tools”. After watching your videos it would seem literally impossible to comply. Are there any locks that might actually comply?
Can you test out the Oxford Boss Disc Alarm Lock?
That would be very public interest. Half the bikers in the world probably use some variation of the Oxford disc detainer locks...
Hekinda sounds more like a dentist or a doctor... He should be the lock doc
You should make a lock that even you cant open.
Boom, million dollar idea. You’re welcome
I wouldn’t be surprised if this man is the founder of the Thieves Guild
I would love to see you design another pick proof lock i know you have the skills
When is the pick that you and Bill made going to be available? Any updates?
I'm still using the cheap Chinese pick, but I can't open anything with it!
Your videos have prevented me from buying a lock for my bicycle...so what’s a good lock that can’t be picked???
None that I'm aware of, but picking attacks are incredibly rare in the wild. Brute force protection is more relevant.
tray is very bright.
At the beginning your channel was just binding, now I got a click out of it! ;)
There's sumbin strange about that rebrand. Did this cost more than the multisafe equivalent? If so, the rebranding company isn't one I would buy anything from.
Use a modified inductive bearing heater to melt locks
I am a novice lock security penetrator but given the spring detent on the shackle would this be subject to kinetic bypass ala McnallyOfficial?
All in all, not a bad lock for $17 or so, I really only know 2 people with a tool Bosnian Bill and LPL made =)
Speaking of Bosnian Bill, him picking up a CNC is sort of scary if I was a lock.
Can you recommend a good shutter lock available in Europe? Hardened-steel body, hardened shackle 7mm in thickness (cannot be thicker) and with a highly pick-resistant core. Drill-protection disc would be nice. Which is the best one you have encountered?
Have you ever tried to design a lock that you couldn't pick?
I want to learn how to do this and collect locks and picking tools
Has there been any updates on getting the Pick you and Bill made onto shelves? I kind of want to get my hands on one