People NEED to understand that not every person who buys a camera is trying to make it their profession..... And accept that not being a top level gear doesnt make it less of a camera....
So many people dont understand business and what this camera is. They only care about specs, specs and specs. It's the mirrorless version of the Rebel T100, one of Canon's best selling cameras of all time. People buying this camera dont care about specs or even a touchscreen, they care about ONE thing, price. The R100 is the cheapest mirrorless camera on the market and by far the cheapest APS-C mirrorless. Just like the T100, Canon will sell truckloads of these at big box retailers like Walmart, Costco etc...I bet they have holidays sales where this will hit $399. You can't even buy a good quality lens for that these days. They will sell tons of these.
A late comment, but I fully agree with you. I got into DSLR photography last year and I can definitely say that my main concern as a beginner was just price. The daunting prices of higher end DSLR/mirrorless units put me off until I purchased the 4000D (T100) system, and it's done wonders for me. I do wish I'd waited a bit longer to get my hands on this, but we will see in the future!
Kinda crazy to see the community hate on this camera so much. Yes, it's nothing fancy, but you can get the R100 with two kit lenses (18-45, 55-210) for $729USD here in the US. If a beginner was to get that kit, they could use the camera to learn and see if they like photography. Then they can turn around and sell the body for $300 and upgrade to the R10 for $879. That would mean that, at the end of the day, you'd have an R10 with two kit lenses that cover a huge range of situations for a hair over $1300. That's pretty awesome.
As someone who only got into photography within the last 12 months, i would have considered this camera if it was around last year. Low entry price, modest prices for lenses. Easy to use and pleasing photos. This would be a great camera for a young person, trying to find out if they like photography,; and not to expensive for mum and dad.
I just bought this camera less them a month ago, i wanted to see if i can do something and i didnt want to buy something expensive for a start... This camera is amazing 😊
I just ordered mine with two lenses; RF-S18-45mm F4.5-6.3 is STM & RF-S55-210mm F5-7.1 is STM Lens Kit and I decided to get this first with two lenses so that in three years when I go for maybe the R7, I already have some lenses. Lenses are expensive and the R100 will surely serve me just fine for three years coming.
I just bought a used one for 275 US dollars and I know that it’s a digital rebel camera which I used for years and made great photography with it. As a non professional photographer on a budget it will be my backup for my 80d.
I feel like the Nikon APSC already represents a much better value even with the pretty “old” Z50 body front running the pack. Their 16-50 is wider and longer while also seeming more compact, the mount isn’t closed and thus third party lenses are available, and the 20MP sensor (if you can deal with the modest loss in resolution) has pretty tremendous dynamic range and high iso ability. If you’re getting bodies in to try I’d suggest giving one a go!
I used to own a canon t3i and then a Sony a6000 that had to sold. After many years I got this camera I regret nothing. Everyone seems to be wanting the better and newer specs on cameras like that is the only way to do photography. I like to experiment and be creative and you can do that with almost any camera out there. I personally don’t miss a touchscreen or a flip screen at all. I’m using a 40year old lens on this camera and the kit and hopefully will get a lens that as wider soon mostly for street photography. I enjoyed your video
I decided to go for the R10. Spend a bit more, get so much more. PS; Recognized the photos you took at Porvoo. I live in Finland too! Hyvää päivän jatkoa! 😊
I am left eye dominant and find the touch screen annoying as my nose hits it and changes the focus point! I also don’t like the very delicate flip screen which I find useless anyway.
Dynamic range concern is interesting - isn't the 24mp shared with their other cameras too? I give props to Canon for even making this camera, with all its cost cutting. They could have walked away and left beginners out to dry completely.
I bought this camera not so long time ago. Before I had 1300D, 500D, 700D and 800D, but I wanted mirrorless. It is everything alright for me, I am not professional , but just probaly one thing what I don't like it is battery icon. It's always show full battery or dead already. Doesn't show half battery left or etc. I took camera out to take a pictures with full battery icon and after few shoots, my camera dead
Yes, Canon is capable of creating great cameras (even on the budget level), but it seems to me, they are not quite serious about their aps-c lineup, when it comes to lenses. Looking at the current rf-s lens lineup, there's honestly not much to write home about. For learning the basics, 250D & EF-S 24 mm or even with 18-55 IS STM kit lens is a better option (at least to me).
Yes, especially when they ditched the M series. The RF-S lens choice is just a joke. It's not small anymore when you have to use an adapter for EF-S lenses.
Thank you for reviewing this really nice camera from how it looked in your hands. The lack of touch screen that will keep me away from buying it unfortunately.
Looking at a solid beginner camera. Canon r100 or canon rebel t7? Both the same price roughly in stores so plan to pair one of these with a nifty fifty as well
All good for the target audience and glad to see entry level option. Quite remarkable these days. Cannot forgive missing touch functionality and contrast af in 4k. This should not depend on budget. Not in 2023. Thanks for honest thoughts
"Only" photographers do not need a camera with IBIS. Tripod users certainly don't. Switching off the image stabilisation does not eliminate the problem of the unstable sensor and the possible shutter shock. You can see this in the disgusting blurring caused by micro-movements. Normally, a photographer does not need an image stabiliser. It's a feature primarily for videographers. Lately I have been using my SONY A5000 more and more often and am thrilled by the sharpness of a camera without an in-body image stabiliser.
I think the R50 is the lowest I'd go if I had a super low budget. At least it has the articulating touch screen, which I think is important for someone who's coming from a phone. I do want that 28, though, haha.
Hello Sir, I am going to change my 14 years old 500D due to screen darkness issue. I have Canon EF-S 10-18mm, Canon EF 50mm Prime AND Tamron EF 70-300mm Lens. I am just Hobbyist and looking for budget entry level camera like EOS 2000D(T7) or R100. I do only photography (not video at all). In India I can get 2000D(T7) $280 cheaper than "R100 + EF adapter". What is your opinion should I go for 4 years old EOS 2000D(T7) or "R100 with EF Adapter"?
@@mattisulantoThanks for your opinion. I am also thinking for 2000D however I am concerned about how much after sales support I will get for 2000D as it is already 4 years old and canon has already discontinued it's production.
I'm spoiled by flippy screens, IBIS, and other features. This camera and the 28mm pancake or 16mm sounds really fun. Throw it in a bag, carry it everywhere, and work on my technique. Sure, if Canon released a RF 24mm pancake that would be even better.
No touch screen in 2023? Looks like in the Canon line-up of APS-C the R10 is the bargain one. When they ran the $200 off on that one, it was a steal! The 28mm lens for use with the RP camera sounds interesting. I have the 50mm and 35mm RF lenses, and they both work well -- I assume focusing would be faster on the top-line lenses, but they are big, heavy, and weighty in price -- not a good combo for the street. I wish they would bring back the tilt screen and dump the flippy screens -- hate those weird swing-out screens for shooting --- throws me off and looks so crazy when on the street. I like my GX-9 the most for the street, other MFT cameras I have, and somewhat like using the Canon RP with that extra crop ability. Yes, Canon colors and JPG rendering in general are nice with Canon. Competition with Fujifilm XT-30 and Nikon Z5, which are both bargains is great. But then again, you have to decide which mount, lenses, and total system will work for you. Thanks for the video, Loren
i am debating if the 28mm f2.8 worth it while the standard 18-45mm auto zoom lens covers 28mm with smaller aperture. I would rather get a prime lens with larger aperture, your advice please?
I think you have to take a look at Canon's line up and see what you like. They have some F1.8 and F2 primes. You you want autofocus Canon is your only option at the moment.
I changed my mind. I bought one. Amazing camera. MADE IN JAPAN. It has hotshoe, 25 mp, and Amazing face/eye detect autfocus. You don't need touchscreen Kit lens has stabilisation. I got a good price for new, because nobody wanted it. If you like photography 📸 and understand the basics, buy one. Rest of the money, go on a nice holiday, take the girlfriend for dinner 🍽 or hire some beautiful models and get excellent photos. Quick
I've quit the R system because they don't have 3rd party lenses, and I will never come back. I waited, wanted a 28-70 f2.8 at a normal price, and in the end realised it is more easy to switch to Sony than to follow Canon's way. So I've sold all my prime rf lenses (24, 35, 50, 85), and now I'm a free and happy full frame mirrorless user. 😄
@@mattisulanto it's almost 800 euro here. But it's with an IS kit lens. But yeah, I remember my 5dmk4 with 50mm f1.8. Zero stabilization 😬 and I can't shoot with that, unless it's bright sunny day.
Canonet -- bring it back. People would love to see some sexier looking cameras from Canon. This being said, I like the feel of the RP once the Canon Grip was added -- otherwise a tad too short on grip. Taking grip out of the equation, the average Canon look is average / boring, but otherwise good as in not cheap looking.
I bought apsc nikon d70 when it was released, then I feel cheated in regards to lenses for their apc line. It's likely they push me to move into full frame. Here I suspect the same story. Imho if you are on a tight budget or a beginner willing to real camera then go for mft.
@@mattisulantoall out pro cameras in the past had no touch screen and we managed to get great shots. To this day I have nostalgia for Canon 40D. I was simple and effective body with good battery life.
While this is at a very good price, I can't help but feel that it's over-compromised. I don't think this offer any advantage over the equivalent M body, which is very old, except that it accepts RF glass.
I never thought I would buy Canon again after they lock out 3rd party lenses. But I just buy a old $77 40D on mpb, to go with the lenses on my SL1, so I guess I was not totally right :D
@@mattisulanto true! I think Canon will open up their mount eventually. Anyway, my lens buying now is MFT, I only buy this camera to try a well regarded "vintage" DSLR with the lenses I already have.
is that true that dlsr last longer than mirrorless, i am confused to buy a dslr or mirrorless coz im looking for a camera which will last longer(3-4yrs) without any issues (hope i'll get some replies)
I don't think there is any proof that a DSLR would last longer than a mirrorless. Any camera you buy can have issues, but most cameras never have any issues.
@@adarshbnair4687 I don't know what camera you should buy. Ask yourself what features you need and want. I would go for mirrorless. However, the Canon M series most probably is coming to an end and I would not recommend that unless you can get a really good deal.
Hyväksi tätä kameraa ei voi kutsua, mutta hulluilta päiviltä se irtoaa nyt kittilinssin kera 349€, joten päätin sen ostaa. Siihen hintaan ihan kelpo peli
Does the R100 have a completely silent electronic shutter mode? Also the 50mm f1.8 or 85mm f1.8 on apsc makes it a 80mm / 135mm focal length which I think may work well for unobtrusive street shooters.
This camera would still be kinda bad even with magic lantern existing for it. I know it's easy to hate on its specs, even with such an attractive price, but there's just shortcomings that make me question is validity on the market. So, who is this camera for? Beginners with a low budget, wanting something better than their phone. Does it help them learn photography? Well... Only kinda. People worked with less years ago, but that's also kind of the point. Aside from being mirrorless, it feels like something from a literal decade ago. Looking at the target group, I can hardly see it being attractive to phone-ditchers in 2023 with the no-touch screen. The bad budget RF lens situation also doesn't add to it. But what really makes me question its position is the fact that we look at it as experienced photographers. Let me explain: For someone experienced, the R100 can look like a great tool. It basically got all the minimum needed features. It has decent image quality and can get you great results. If and because you know what you're doing that is. A beginner doesn't want to dip into the menu to change ISO because there's not enough buttons. A beginner doesn't want to change focus points with buttons if there could be a touch screen. A beginner will, simply said, have a unnecessarily hard time learning to use this camera. It doesn't conform to 2023 expectations of user intuition and the "quickness" that a phone is. It's supposed to be a beginner's camera, but I can hardly see it it trying to support beginners with good features aside from image quality. Now, I don't want to say an analog camera could do it better, but it's more straight forward. The R100 is on the edge of being between understandable and underbuilt. It gives you options that you can't easily acess. The M50 (ii) was similar, but the great touch interface made more than up for it. A similar priced Fuji X-T2 has more dials and buttons to teach someone what they can do without needing the menu. And to top it all, you can get lenses. The RF mount is a locked down mess atm. Okay, rant over. I still see this as a good camera. It's great that it exists and important that brands dip their toes into the budget waters again. But there's just a few things that wouldn't have been that much more expensive, that would have saved this from being a very, very foggy recommendation - especially compared to other used cameras. Missing touch being the biggest thing, as that's something that canon already does very well. Lens options being the other. And some other small things overall as well, but we see those with every brand somewhere. Its just especially painful for beginners to buy such a camera and maybe feel like camera tech hasn't entered this millennium. While it might be a great tool, it could also be the gateway to a great disappointment - especially for beginners. We as experienced photographers might know how to work around limitations - beginners don't.
This camera takes sharper pics than my bridge camera. I keep accidently turning the mode dial with my thumb though. Would be nice it had touch screen focus like my bridge camera does. Focussing is a bit of guesswork.
I have never been to Indian weddings and I have no idea how to film Indian weddings. However, I don't think this camera is the best wedding video camera.
@@MichaelGerrard Over here the Fuji is a lot more expensive, but the Olympus is in the same range and it offers a lot for the money. The Lumix isn't any better camera in my opinion, but actually worse, because of its inferior AF in comparison. Both MFT options have a superior lens selection, of course.
Video is just so big these days. I ended up with the ZV-E10 because of the video first nature. Still entry level, and not stabilized, but much more of a modern hybrid shooter. If this had acceptable video, i think it would be a massive hit. As it is it will get retail sale at the price, but very little online hype.
The absence of a tilt screen is a dealbreaker for a camera that competes with smartphones, as that and the EVF are the key advantages of cameras over phones at this price level. Also, the kit lens is sooo slow
Isn't that the purpose of any camera regardless of the brand? Of course all camera manufacturers want you to stay with them and there is nothing wrong with that. Like I said in the video, the R100 is an enjoyable camera and you can take good looking photos on it. No camera is perfect.
Canon didnt cripple anything. It's literally a mirrorless version of the T100, one of Canons best selling cameras of all time. It's easily the cheapest APS-C mirrorless on the market, even cheaper than any 3-4 year old M43 camera with no EVF and tiny sensor. The R100 is for one thing only, people who love cheap and everyone loves cheap.
Total Rubbish 🗑 Garbage 🗑camera 📷 Without touch screen or joystick 🕹, how can you get the face/ eye 👁detect on a subject??? The face detect / 👁eye detect needs help. $600 / $700 is a lot of money. Better buy a second hand M50 mark 2.
Hi! You are incorrect about the dynamic range - where are you getting that info or why do you think that? Are you sure it's not the lens you are using? It's the same sensor as the R50/R10, just with the DIGI 8 vs DIGI X, so maybe some processing is different - but not the RAW files dynamic range. Also, it cannot be charged via USB-C, only with the battery charger. I would do a bit more research before touting things as facts...
In the video I explained how I came to that conclusion regarding the dynamic range. I would watch the full video before asking questions that have already been answered in the video. Anyway, after seeing your comment I checked the site called www.photonstophotos.net/ and according to them the R100 dynamic range is less than the Fuji X-T30 dynamic range that I was referring to in the video. It could be that they don't know how to measure dynamic range and they are incorrect but their findings support my findings. When it comes to battery charging, you are absolutely correct. The battery can only be charged with the charger.
@@mattisulanto Sorry, I did watch the video, great content by the way! You stated "I did not make any proper tests" during the dynamic range portion, and you were comparing an X-T30 (which probably DOES have better dynamic range) to the cheapest canon mirrorless camera that exists. Don't you think it would be more appropriate to compare this camera to another canon camera, or at least a camera of comparative value? The X-T30 is $900, the R100 is $400. I thought it was a great video but I think the dynamic range portion is misleading, most people considering this camera are looking at the r100 vs r50 vs r10, and in that case they will be very similar. Also, where are you seeing the R100 on that site? I can't seem to find any of the charts that include a canon r100. I agree that the XT-30 has much better dynamic range, but that is a bit of a random comparison, and you could get 2 r100s for that price. Comparing it to a more expensive canon option (R50, R10, etc) it should have the same Dynamic Range, I was hoping you would have some insight in that case.
@@samwise_productions It was not a comparison per se. It was only an observation I made while processing the RAW files from the Canon. A proper comparison would have the same photo from both cameras side by side etc. If I did that (R100 vs X-T30) I would understand why you are upset. But now I don't understand what's the big deal here. The whole video was pretty positive on the R100 which doesn't seem to receive much love generally. On Photonstophotos site I used the R10 data since it has the same sensor as the R100. I don't think it's worth getting so worked up about something like this. They are just cameras😀 Anyway, I don't think there is much point to continue this conversation. Let's go out and take a few more photos instead. I wish you the best photo moments.
@@mattisulanto I think we got off on the wrong foot! I am not upset, or worked up, I can see how it came off like that In my comments, sometimes I unintentionally come off as harsh, honestly I wasn't meaning to. I was looking to see if it was true that the r100 shared the same dynamic range as the r10 and r50 like canon says (they say its the same sensor with different processors), because I'm deciding which one to purchase (I have some canon EF lenses so I'm stuck in that ecosystem). Your video was super informative and helpful, I was just thrown off by the dynamic range comment. I can see you never specifically compared it to the other canon cameras, just stated that it isn't as good as other APS-C options, which is 100% true, so I was wrong and take back the statement in my original comment about stating facts - you never framed the comparison as such. You are right, they are just cameras, and again this video is amazing, great work and super informative. Sorry about the misunderstanding - I am just struggling to find some real data comparing the r100 to the R10 / R50. I thought you might have seen some tests or info I have not seen and was genuinely interested about it since it would go against what canon has stated. I wish you the best as well, thanks for taking the time to respond and again sorry I was overly critical.
@@samwise_productions I have to say that it's so good to meet someone who actually can have a decent conversation. You would not believe what kind of responses I mostly get from fanboys. Anyway, sorry I could not share any more insights. My advice is that you should not get stuck with the dynamic range if you really like the rest of the camera. After all most cameras today have better dynamic range than the cameras 10-15 years ago. Still we used those cameras back then for commercial work for clients.
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People NEED to understand that not every person who buys a camera is trying to make it their profession..... And accept that not being a top level gear doesnt make it less of a camera....
So many people dont understand business and what this camera is. They only care about specs, specs and specs. It's the mirrorless version of the Rebel T100, one of Canon's best selling cameras of all time. People buying this camera dont care about specs or even a touchscreen, they care about ONE thing, price. The R100 is the cheapest mirrorless camera on the market and by far the cheapest APS-C mirrorless. Just like the T100, Canon will sell truckloads of these at big box retailers like Walmart, Costco etc...I bet they have holidays sales where this will hit $399. You can't even buy a good quality lens for that these days. They will sell tons of these.
Thanks. It's so easy to only look at the specs😀
A late comment, but I fully agree with you. I got into DSLR photography last year and I can definitely say that my main concern as a beginner was just price. The daunting prices of higher end DSLR/mirrorless units put me off until I purchased the 4000D (T100) system, and it's done wonders for me. I do wish I'd waited a bit longer to get my hands on this, but we will see in the future!
I just bought it myself new with lens for $399. They’re having a sale right now.
Here we are a year later and as I predicted, the R100 is a bestseller.
@@LoveNadiame too. On sale two weeks ago for $399.
Kinda crazy to see the community hate on this camera so much. Yes, it's nothing fancy, but you can get the R100 with two kit lenses (18-45, 55-210) for $729USD here in the US. If a beginner was to get that kit, they could use the camera to learn and see if they like photography. Then they can turn around and sell the body for $300 and upgrade to the R10 for $879. That would mean that, at the end of the day, you'd have an R10 with two kit lenses that cover a huge range of situations for a hair over $1300. That's pretty awesome.
As someone who only got into photography within the last 12 months, i would have considered this camera if it was around last year. Low entry price, modest prices for lenses. Easy to use and pleasing photos.
This would be a great camera for a young person, trying to find out if they like photography,; and not to expensive for mum and dad.
I just bought this camera less them a month ago, i wanted to see if i can do something and i didnt want to buy something expensive for a start... This camera is amazing 😊
Just ordered one for a walk around camera. If the photos look good, that's all I need. Thanks for all the great info...
I just ordered mine with two lenses; RF-S18-45mm F4.5-6.3 is STM & RF-S55-210mm F5-7.1 is STM Lens Kit and I decided to get this first with two lenses so that in three years when I go for maybe the R7, I already have some lenses. Lenses are expensive and the R100 will surely serve me just fine for three years coming.
What do You think put a 28mm RF and 85mm f2 My interest sharpness, don't mine the Flippy screen, dials, only i need sharpness
I just bought a used one for 275 US dollars and I know that it’s a digital rebel
camera which I used for years and made great photography with it. As a non professional photographer on a budget it will be my backup for my 80d.
I feel like the Nikon APSC already represents a much better value even with the pretty “old” Z50 body front running the pack. Their 16-50 is wider and longer while also seeming more compact, the mount isn’t closed and thus third party lenses are available, and the 20MP sensor (if you can deal with the modest loss in resolution) has pretty tremendous dynamic range and high iso ability. If you’re getting bodies in to try I’d suggest giving one a go!
I used to own a canon t3i and then a Sony a6000 that had to sold. After many years I got this camera I regret nothing. Everyone seems to be wanting the better and newer specs on cameras like that is the only way to do photography.
I like to experiment and be creative and you can do that with almost any camera out there.
I personally don’t miss a touchscreen or a flip screen at all.
I’m using a 40year old lens on this camera and the kit and hopefully will get a lens that as wider soon mostly for street photography.
I enjoyed your video
I decided to go for the R10. Spend a bit more, get so much more. PS; Recognized the photos you took at Porvoo. I live in Finland too! Hyvää päivän jatkoa! 😊
Thanks. Yeah, I went to Porvoo and took a few snaps😀
I am left eye dominant and find the touch screen annoying as my nose hits it and changes the focus point!
I also don’t like the very delicate flip screen which I find useless anyway.
Dynamic range concern is interesting - isn't the 24mp shared with their other cameras too?
I give props to Canon for even making this camera, with all its cost cutting. They could have walked away and left beginners out to dry completely.
Thanks. I suspect it could be a sensor from the M series or that generation and not one of the current better Canon sensors.
@@mattisulanto ok, that makes sense!
I bought this camera not so long time ago. Before I had 1300D, 500D, 700D and 800D, but I wanted mirrorless. It is everything alright for me, I am not professional , but just probaly one thing what I don't like it is battery icon. It's always show full battery or dead already. Doesn't show half battery left or etc. I took camera out to take a pictures with full battery icon and after few shoots, my camera dead
Hi just a suggestions please when you do camera review can you add loads of photo sample images and videos and that would be really great. Thanks
Great idea!
Yes, Canon is capable of creating great cameras (even on the budget level), but it seems to me, they are not quite serious about their aps-c lineup, when it comes to lenses. Looking at the current rf-s lens lineup, there's honestly not much to write home about. For learning the basics, 250D & EF-S 24 mm or even with 18-55 IS STM kit lens is a better option (at least to me).
Thanks. They have never been serious about APS-C lenses😀
Yes, especially when they ditched the M series. The RF-S lens choice is just a joke. It's not small anymore when you have to use an adapter for EF-S lenses.
Thank you for reviewing this really nice camera from how it looked in your hands. The lack of touch screen that will keep me away from buying it unfortunately.
Thanks.
Looking at a solid beginner camera. Canon r100 or canon rebel t7? Both the same price roughly in stores so plan to pair one of these with a nifty fifty as well
All good for the target audience and glad to see entry level option. Quite remarkable these days. Cannot forgive missing touch functionality and contrast af in 4k. This should not depend on budget. Not in 2023.
Thanks for honest thoughts
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
bro i want to know from you which one between canon r100 and canon 250d will be better for video,,,plz reply
"Only" photographers do not need a camera with IBIS. Tripod users certainly don't. Switching off the image stabilisation does not eliminate the problem of the unstable sensor and the possible shutter shock. You can see this in the disgusting blurring caused by micro-movements. Normally, a photographer does not need an image stabiliser. It's a feature primarily for videographers. Lately I have been using my SONY A5000 more and more often and am thrilled by the sharpness of a camera without an in-body image stabiliser.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
I bought the body only and use L glass for excellent results!
I never shoot videos and hate delicate touch screens
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Better hybrid camera sony zv 1f or canon r100
Cripple Hammer was having a really bad day, then the R100 walked into the room and insulted Cripple Hammer's mother. This is the result.
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Cripple hammer is raging
I think the R50 is the lowest I'd go if I had a super low budget. At least it has the articulating touch screen, which I think is important for someone who's coming from a phone. I do want that 28, though, haha.
Thanks. Fortunately there are other options for those who need more features.
Can you confirm this info, I've seen every other reviewer saying that this camera doesn't support USB charging.
It doesn't. That was understanding and while watching this video, it plugged the camera to the charger and it didn't even blink.
Kiitos tästä, olen siirtymässä puhelimesta kameroihin ja etsin juuri suht kevyen budjetin kameraa aloittelijalle.
Kiitos, ja hyvä jos videosta on apua.
Hmm, definitely not for everybody. For someone getting into camera systems, I suppose this is a nice gateway.
Hello Sir,
I am going to change my 14 years old 500D due to screen darkness issue. I have Canon EF-S 10-18mm, Canon EF 50mm Prime AND Tamron EF 70-300mm Lens. I am just Hobbyist and looking for budget entry level camera like EOS 2000D(T7) or R100. I do only photography (not video at all). In India I can get 2000D(T7) $280 cheaper than "R100 + EF adapter".
What is your opinion should I go for 4 years old EOS 2000D(T7) or "R100 with EF Adapter"?
If you are fine with a DSLR and don't need a mirrorless, go for the EOS 2000D.
@@mattisulantoThanks for your opinion. I am also thinking for 2000D however I am concerned about how much after sales support I will get for 2000D as it is already 4 years old and canon has already discontinued it's production.
I'm spoiled by flippy screens, IBIS, and other features. This camera and the 28mm pancake or 16mm sounds really fun. Throw it in a bag, carry it everywhere, and work on my technique. Sure, if Canon released a RF 24mm pancake that would be even better.
Thank you.
if they wanted to save they could remove mic jack & hdmi and put touchscreen instead. Audience of this would have 0 use those anyway.
No touch screen in 2023? Looks like in the Canon line-up of APS-C the R10 is the bargain one. When they ran the $200 off on that one, it was a steal! The 28mm lens for use with the RP camera sounds interesting. I have the 50mm and 35mm RF lenses, and they both work well -- I assume focusing would be faster on the top-line lenses, but they are big, heavy, and weighty in price -- not a good combo for the street. I wish they would bring back the tilt screen and dump the flippy screens -- hate those weird swing-out screens for shooting --- throws me off and looks so crazy when on the street. I like my GX-9 the most for the street, other MFT cameras I have, and somewhat like using the Canon RP with that extra crop ability. Yes, Canon colors and JPG rendering in general are nice with Canon. Competition with Fujifilm XT-30 and Nikon Z5, which are both bargains is great. But then again, you have to decide which mount, lenses, and total system will work for you. Thanks for the video, Loren
Thanks for sharing your insights, always appreciated.
i am debating if the 28mm f2.8 worth it while the standard 18-45mm auto zoom lens covers 28mm with smaller aperture. I would rather get a prime lens with larger aperture, your advice please?
I think you have to take a look at Canon's line up and see what you like. They have some F1.8 and F2 primes. You you want autofocus Canon is your only option at the moment.
@@mattisulanto Thanks!
I changed my mind. I bought one.
Amazing camera.
MADE IN JAPAN.
It has hotshoe, 25 mp, and Amazing face/eye detect autfocus.
You don't need touchscreen
Kit lens has stabilisation.
I got a good price for new, because nobody wanted it.
If you like photography 📸 and understand the basics, buy one.
Rest of the money, go on a nice holiday, take the girlfriend for dinner 🍽 or hire some beautiful models and get excellent photos.
Quick
I have a boyfriend, not a girlfriend.
I've quit the R system because they don't have 3rd party lenses, and I will never come back. I waited, wanted a 28-70 f2.8 at a normal price, and in the end realised it is more easy to switch to Sony than to follow Canon's way. So I've sold all my prime rf lenses (24, 35, 50, 85), and now I'm a free and happy full frame mirrorless user. 😄
Thanks. That is a serious problem with the Canon R system.
The EF adapter was on sale for $79 and you have plenty of 3rd party lenses.
@@michaelbell75 That is not an option for me. The EF lenses with the adapter are too large, and some of them are old by design and modern standards.
@@moruzx So you are using pancake lenses? The abater is tiny and weighs next to nothing. I dont even notice it on my camera most the time.
@@michaelbell75 The adapter size is about as a 50mm prime lens, and the EF lenses are also bigger. I had the 24, 35, 50, 85mm and the 24-105 f4-7.1.
Seems like 2000D is a better pick. Cheaper, better kit lens. Even 250D is cheaper, and can use 3rd party lenses 😊
Thanks for sharing your opinion.
@@mattisulanto it's almost 800 euro here. But it's with an IS kit lens.
But yeah, I remember my 5dmk4 with 50mm f1.8. Zero stabilization 😬 and I can't shoot with that, unless it's bright sunny day.
Canonet -- bring it back. People would love to see some sexier looking cameras from Canon. This being said, I like the feel of the RP once the Canon Grip was added -- otherwise a tad too short on grip. Taking grip out of the equation, the average Canon look is average / boring, but otherwise good as in not cheap looking.
Thank you to uncover just another marketing victory over customers
Thanks for sharing. Could you elaborate that a bit more?
@@mattisulanto Smartphones shifted cameras in more prosumers segment, imho such a feature-cut device targeted to the empty segment
@@yotuberudy85 That might be true and I guess the future will tell if this little Canon is a useless product.
I bought apsc nikon d70 when it was released, then I feel cheated in regards to lenses for their apc line. It's likely they push me to move into full frame. Here I suspect the same story. Imho if you are on a tight budget or a beginner willing to real camera then go for mft.
@@yotuberudy85 Canon and Nikon have not been keen to make premium APS-C lenses.
What camera did you use to shoot this video?
Sony A7IV.
I think for someone who is starting, this system isn't bad at all. The lenses are quite slow but the price for body + two lenses is hard to beat.
Thanks. Nice to see at least one neutral/positive comment😀
@@mattisulantoall out pro cameras in the past had no touch screen and we managed to get great shots. To this day I have nostalgia for Canon 40D. I was simple and effective body with good battery life.
Sigma lenses are coming this year. Tamron is also coming. Most should just move up to R50.
While this is at a very good price, I can't help but feel that it's over-compromised. I don't think this offer any advantage over the equivalent M body, which is very old, except that it accepts RF glass.
Thanks True, the M50 would offer pretty much the same.
@@mattisulanto Canon M50 has DualPixel AF and it's better camera that R100. M50 + EF-M 22mm/f2 lens take very good pictures.
@@ernestwilk3276 The R100 has the dual pixel AF as well, but the M50 can be a better camera for some.
I never thought I would buy Canon again after they lock out 3rd party lenses. But I just buy a old $77 40D on mpb, to go with the lenses on my SL1, so I guess I was not totally right :D
With your 40D you can use third party lenses too😀
@@mattisulanto true! I think Canon will open up their mount eventually. Anyway, my lens buying now is MFT, I only buy this camera to try a well regarded "vintage" DSLR with the lenses I already have.
Thanks!
Thank you!
is that true that dlsr last longer than mirrorless, i am confused to buy a dslr or mirrorless coz im looking for a camera which will last longer(3-4yrs) without any issues (hope i'll get some replies)
I don't think there is any proof that a DSLR would last longer than a mirrorless. Any camera you buy can have issues, but most cameras never have any issues.
@@mattisulanto so should i go for r100, 200d II , or m50
@@adarshbnair4687 I don't know what camera you should buy. Ask yourself what features you need and want. I would go for mirrorless. However, the Canon M series most probably is coming to an end and I would not recommend that unless you can get a really good deal.
thnx@@mattisulanto
Can I attach external Microphone to this camera?
I have returned the loaner unit already long time ago so can't double check. Please go to Canon home page or use Google.
great , thank you!
You are welcome!
Hyväksi tätä kameraa ei voi kutsua, mutta hulluilta päiviltä se irtoaa nyt kittilinssin kera 349€, joten päätin sen ostaa. Siihen hintaan ihan kelpo peli
No ei o paha hinta ainakaan😀
Does the R100 have a completely silent electronic shutter mode?
Also the 50mm f1.8 or 85mm f1.8 on apsc makes it a 80mm / 135mm focal length which I think may work well for unobtrusive street shooters.
I have returned the camera already and can't remember if it had a silent mode.
@@mattisulanto I checked it out at a local shop today. It does in one of the 'scene' modes... and limited to single shot mode. (which is strange)
Could you do a video about the olympus e-m10 ?
I don't own that camera and I don't know where to get that for a review, so right now I'm afraid I can't fill your request.
This or $699 refurbished eos rp?
That's a good question.
This camera would still be kinda bad even with magic lantern existing for it.
I know it's easy to hate on its specs, even with such an attractive price, but there's just shortcomings that make me question is validity on the market.
So, who is this camera for? Beginners with a low budget, wanting something better than their phone.
Does it help them learn photography? Well... Only kinda. People worked with less years ago, but that's also kind of the point. Aside from being mirrorless, it feels like something from a literal decade ago. Looking at the target group, I can hardly see it being attractive to phone-ditchers in 2023 with the no-touch screen. The bad budget RF lens situation also doesn't add to it. But what really makes me question its position is the fact that we look at it as experienced photographers. Let me explain:
For someone experienced, the R100 can look like a great tool. It basically got all the minimum needed features. It has decent image quality and can get you great results. If and because you know what you're doing that is.
A beginner doesn't want to dip into the menu to change ISO because there's not enough buttons. A beginner doesn't want to change focus points with buttons if there could be a touch screen. A beginner will, simply said, have a unnecessarily hard time learning to use this camera. It doesn't conform to 2023 expectations of user intuition and the "quickness" that a phone is. It's supposed to be a beginner's camera, but I can hardly see it it trying to support beginners with good features aside from image quality.
Now, I don't want to say an analog camera could do it better, but it's more straight forward. The R100 is on the edge of being between understandable and underbuilt. It gives you options that you can't easily acess. The M50 (ii) was similar, but the great touch interface made more than up for it.
A similar priced Fuji X-T2 has more dials and buttons to teach someone what they can do without needing the menu. And to top it all, you can get lenses. The RF mount is a locked down mess atm.
Okay, rant over. I still see this as a good camera. It's great that it exists and important that brands dip their toes into the budget waters again. But there's just a few things that wouldn't have been that much more expensive, that would have saved this from being a very, very foggy recommendation - especially compared to other used cameras. Missing touch being the biggest thing, as that's something that canon already does very well. Lens options being the other. And some other small things overall as well, but we see those with every brand somewhere. Its just especially painful for beginners to buy such a camera and maybe feel like camera tech hasn't entered this millennium. While it might be a great tool, it could also be the gateway to a great disappointment - especially for beginners. We as experienced photographers might know how to work around limitations - beginners don't.
Thanks for sharing your extensive insights on this.
This camera takes sharper pics than my bridge camera. I keep accidently turning the mode dial with my thumb though.
Would be nice it had touch screen focus like my bridge camera does. Focussing is a bit of guesswork.
Great camera... for 2013
Iam for india ..
Can i use this camera for indian wedding videos
I have never been to Indian weddings and I have no idea how to film Indian weddings. However, I don't think this camera is the best wedding video camera.
That has to be the most uninspiring camera released in 2023.
Thanks. I can read so many hard comments and the camera is actually very nice😀
@@mattisulanto Yes, sorry. I just feel there are so many better alternatives for the same money (or less).
@@MichaelGerrard No need to be sorry, you are entitled to your opinion😀 What would you buy for the same money or less?
@@mattisulanto I checked and for the same/similar money, I could get a Fuji T30 II, or a Lumix G110 or an Oly E-M10 IV.
@@MichaelGerrard Over here the Fuji is a lot more expensive, but the Olympus is in the same range and it offers a lot for the money. The Lumix isn't any better camera in my opinion, but actually worse, because of its inferior AF in comparison. Both MFT options have a superior lens selection, of course.
yall are praising it at $700, I got it for just under $400 today :)
That was the price when I recorded the video about a year ago.
Video is just so big these days. I ended up with the ZV-E10 because of the video first nature. Still entry level, and not stabilized, but much more of a modern hybrid shooter.
If this had acceptable video, i think it would be a massive hit. As it is it will get retail sale at the price, but very little online hype.
The absence of a tilt screen is a dealbreaker for a camera that competes with smartphones, as that and the EVF are the key advantages of cameras over phones at this price level. Also, the kit lens is sooo slow
Thanks for your insights.
Canon up to their old games, hindering features…i get its a budget camera but man Canon.
Bad camera bad apsc lenses i prefer a Used fuji xt2 for the same Price
Go for the Fuji😀
Overpriced and no touchscreen. Are you joking?
How can you call $30 worth of Chinese electronics that sells for $700 budget. SMH.
i think you're being extremely harsh here.
So a crippled camera with the only purpose of locking customers in the Canon system.
Isn't that the purpose of any camera regardless of the brand? Of course all camera manufacturers want you to stay with them and there is nothing wrong with that. Like I said in the video, the R100 is an enjoyable camera and you can take good looking photos on it. No camera is perfect.
Said in a bit rough way, but so true, though 😃
I think we see this crippling more with Canon. The restrictions on lenses too, other brands are not doing this.
Canon didnt cripple anything. It's literally a mirrorless version of the T100, one of Canons best selling cameras of all time. It's easily the cheapest APS-C mirrorless on the market, even cheaper than any 3-4 year old M43 camera with no EVF and tiny sensor. The R100 is for one thing only, people who love cheap and everyone loves cheap.
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Total Rubbish 🗑
Garbage 🗑camera 📷
Without touch screen or joystick 🕹, how can you get the face/ eye 👁detect on a subject???
The face detect / 👁eye detect needs help.
$600 / $700 is a lot of money.
Better buy a second hand M50 mark 2.
Buy that used M50 and be happy😀
Are you commenting from experience?
If not you’re wasting our time🤷🏻♂️
Hi! You are incorrect about the dynamic range - where are you getting that info or why do you think that? Are you sure it's not the lens you are using? It's the same sensor as the R50/R10, just with the DIGI 8 vs DIGI X, so maybe some processing is different - but not the RAW files dynamic range. Also, it cannot be charged via USB-C, only with the battery charger. I would do a bit more research before touting things as facts...
In the video I explained how I came to that conclusion regarding the dynamic range. I would watch the full video before asking questions that have already been answered in the video.
Anyway, after seeing your comment I checked the site called www.photonstophotos.net/ and according to them the R100 dynamic range is less than the Fuji X-T30 dynamic range that I was referring to in the video. It could be that they don't know how to measure dynamic range and they are incorrect but their findings support my findings.
When it comes to battery charging, you are absolutely correct. The battery can only be charged with the charger.
@@mattisulanto Sorry, I did watch the video, great content by the way! You stated "I did not make any proper tests" during the dynamic range portion, and you were comparing an X-T30 (which probably DOES have better dynamic range) to the cheapest canon mirrorless camera that exists. Don't you think it would be more appropriate to compare this camera to another canon camera, or at least a camera of comparative value? The X-T30 is $900, the R100 is $400. I thought it was a great video but I think the dynamic range portion is misleading, most people considering this camera are looking at the r100 vs r50 vs r10, and in that case they will be very similar.
Also, where are you seeing the R100 on that site? I can't seem to find any of the charts that include a canon r100. I agree that the XT-30 has much better dynamic range, but that is a bit of a random comparison, and you could get 2 r100s for that price. Comparing it to a more expensive canon option (R50, R10, etc) it should have the same Dynamic Range, I was hoping you would have some insight in that case.
@@samwise_productions It was not a comparison per se. It was only an observation I made while processing the RAW files from the Canon. A proper comparison would have the same photo from both cameras side by side etc. If I did that (R100 vs X-T30) I would understand why you are upset. But now I don't understand what's the big deal here. The whole video was pretty positive on the R100 which doesn't seem to receive much love generally. On Photonstophotos site I used the R10 data since it has the same sensor as the R100. I don't think it's worth getting so worked up about something like this. They are just cameras😀 Anyway, I don't think there is much point to continue this conversation. Let's go out and take a few more photos instead. I wish you the best photo moments.
@@mattisulanto I think we got off on the wrong foot! I am not upset, or worked up, I can see how it came off like that In my comments, sometimes I unintentionally come off as harsh, honestly I wasn't meaning to.
I was looking to see if it was true that the r100 shared the same dynamic range as the r10 and r50 like canon says (they say its the same sensor with different processors), because I'm deciding which one to purchase (I have some canon EF lenses so I'm stuck in that ecosystem). Your video was super informative and helpful, I was just thrown off by the dynamic range comment. I can see you never specifically compared it to the other canon cameras, just stated that it isn't as good as other APS-C options, which is 100% true, so I was wrong and take back the statement in my original comment about stating facts - you never framed the comparison as such. You are right, they are just cameras, and again this video is amazing, great work and super informative.
Sorry about the misunderstanding - I am just struggling to find some real data comparing the r100 to the R10 / R50. I thought you might have seen some tests or info I have not seen and was genuinely interested about it since it would go against what canon has stated. I wish you the best as well, thanks for taking the time to respond and again sorry I was overly critical.
@@samwise_productions I have to say that it's so good to meet someone who actually can have a decent conversation. You would not believe what kind of responses I mostly get from fanboys. Anyway, sorry I could not share any more insights. My advice is that you should not get stuck with the dynamic range if you really like the rest of the camera. After all most cameras today have better dynamic range than the cameras 10-15 years ago. Still we used those cameras back then for commercial work for clients.
Who will buy this over a smart phone?