What Happened to Titanic's Survivors After the Sinking?
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- Thursday April 18th, 1912: across the globe telegraphs are rattling non-stop and newspapers run with dramatic headlines. Incredibly it seems that the White Star Line’s newest and finest liner has sunk with an enormous loss of life. As Carpathia approached New York the world held its breath - what had happened that chilling, clear night on the North Atlantic? Who were among the living and the dead? The following days would bring the full gamut of human emotion; extraordinary relief, boundless grief - even unbridled rage. It was the wake of a tragedy - a sad arrival.
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Okay I just fell more in love with Captain Rostron. He not only risked his own ship to rescue Titanic's people, but he really protected them once he did. I mean he did not call Olympic because he did not want to retraumatize the victims with Titanic's sister. Then he policed the journalist on board from using the victims, and threatened the press with bodily harm for getting near them. This man and his ship needs a movie.
Right?!! I already admired Captain Rostron for his heroism, but some of the additional details this video (thanks to the absolutely phenomenal Mike Brady) offered were utterly astonishing. And SO heartwarming, tbh. I’d be the first in line to buy tickets for a film about him.
They could also devote some of the film’s story to the efforts of the rest of the Carpathia crew and passengers. And perhaps with a scene or two depicting Ismay’s work to help the survivors? After all the public humiliation this guy endured-during his lifetime AND for nearly a century afterward-he certainly deserves some level of exoneration by now.
@@Kristyle187 yea that guy made sure the people were kept protected because they went through something insane so immediately getting a journalist to them would just be the wo'rst time for that to happen
@@Kristyle187Yes, he does deserver his own movie but also the stuff that happened to other side of the story of the ships coming to the rescue
Here's a fact about carpathia after the saving of Titanic's passengers It's engines ever since then since they have been running at full power and even been overworked they were permanently damaged throughout the rest of its career until it was sunk.
Captain Smith also smashed up the Olympic in a collision with a battleship. He had the legal power to say NO to Ismays speed request. Amazing how Captain Smith has become a sympathetic figure in thanks to a few movies. He was an idiot in reality.
Y’know what’s amazing? People always talk about how tragic the loss of the Titanic was… but at the same time, it was an incredible show of how human resilience and integrity holds strong in spite of all the terrible things that happened. The passengers of the Carpathia awoke to find their ship preparing to take on hundreds of injured, sick, and heavily traumatized survivors. What did they do? Pitched in to do their best to help. Some people even gave up their cabins for these people they’d never even met.
Margaret Brown immediately put her thoughts towards the survivors that were less fortunate than her - survivors who’d taken everything they had to travel overseas, and now were left with literally nothing. She raised what would be over 300,000 in today’s money to help these people.
Captain Rostron put everything on the like for these people - his ship, his own passengers, even his own life. Yet he went above and beyond for the survivors in their time of need. This man really was an angel in disguise….
For all the talk of tragedy, there’s also the story of triumph in the face of so much sadness.
I so agree. As Mister Rogers would say, "look for the helpers." I think, for some people, that's why we're drawn to stories of tragedy. The awfulness hurts and tears you apart but it's so often accompanied by stories of humans being extremely good to each other in the face of horror.
It’s awfully hard to find good and positivity in such a catastrophe… I am grateful that you have. We all can go on and on interminably about loss, stress, injury, death,etc.
For myself, I find it sometimes overwhelming. I appreciate the emphasis on survival and resilience. Thank you so much.
WG
My grandfather's uncle, mr. Charles Edward Dahl, survived the Titanic and faced this new reality and uncertainty when Carpathia arrived in New York. Everything he owned in this world, except what he was wearing, went to the bottom of the Atlantic with Titanic. Certainly seems like people were of a stronger breed back in those days, but he must have felt some anxiety about what was to happen next. It turned out alright for him, thankfully.
It’s something to know that your family members personal items from over 111 years ago are still somewhat in existence at the bottom of the Atlantic
@@Shoehandler1142Yes, you're right. His things could even potentially still be in his cabin, for all I know.
No one is ever gonna know the whole truth there.why did they change captin? Why didn't they not stop for the night? Why so little on life boats?It truly is a tradegy that should never happened. I have studied Titanic and there seems to be more questions then answers.
@@helensheridan9051 it's the Olympic, Titanic's sister ship, is down there. massive ins scam by J P Morgan and also got rid of important people against the Fed he pushed for Morgan's European masters.
So, that would have made him your Great Great Uncle. Think about it.
In my early days as a news reporter, I interviewed a woman who survived the Titanic disaster. She was a young child of about six, I think,, in 1912 so mid-60s when I met her. She showed me a menu she had, for dinner on that fateful day. She said she intended to auction it to supplement her retirement years.
J J ill hmmmm!!!,,that's new!.album ,P
How interesting. Did she remember much about it?
Was it wrinkled from water 💧 🤔
@@rchristi761No, just vague memories of being in a lifeboat.
@@nancyhanscom1374No, I believe someone gave it to her at some stage to try to distract her.
Feel honored to have cared for a woman in her elder years whom was a child survivor. This was amazing.
I cannot imaginge how shockingit would be to suffer a catastrofic, traumatic event, see so much tragedy, likely suffer illness due to accidents or cold, maybe lose everything you have in the world, and only have a couple of days to process before a reporter has a camera on your face asking you to relive it. Kudos to the people on Carpathia for trying to make it bearable for the survivors
When I volunteered in my town's archives I was tasked with looking at old editions of the local news paper from the early 1910s (I think we were doing a display about the build up to WW1) and when I came across the edition from the week the Titanic sank the headline story was about how people had shouted about it in the street and people were so shocked at the loss of life that the bustling town center became deserted as everyone went home to see their loved ones. My town is in Yorkshire, UK, so two things hit hard: how a town with no connection to the ship had been hit so heavily by the news of tragedy, and how only two years later in 1914 a lot of those shocked people who went home to see their loved ones would be boarding ships to France to never see their loved ones again.
People couldn't believe that Titanic had sank. After all it was a brand new ship and better then the Olympic which didn't sink with its collision with the Hawke
Because people do whatever media wants them to.
@@weekendwarrior3420 Titanic was one of the worst disasters of its day. Not to mention that, at the time it happened, no one really knew what had caused it. As for fighting in WW1, men fight. It's what we do. It's one of the few cultural constants across the world. Whether it's a pub brawl or a world war, if there's a fight to be had, men throw themselves in. If you live in a country worth fighting for, why wouldn't you enlist when that nation is in danger?
My family is in wakefield.... unfortunately, I have lost their addresses and phone numbers etc...
@@weekendwarrior3420 asinine comment
One of the survivors of the Titanic would later be a nurse on board the HMHS Britannic. She survived that incident as well.
correct, violet jessop!
Mike Brady from down under, he is our hero!
I'm from down under, in fact, we are from the same city
@@leighmenzie5904 Which city?
He's also our friend. #FriendMikeBrady
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@@THAT1ZELDAFAN 😂😂😂 you forgot to mention it's also known for that whatsamacallit place near the thingymajig 😁
Nothing like closing a fun weekend with a video from my friend, Mike Brady from Oceanliner Designs.
Did not want to steal your steam m8! 🤣
I expect it to be quite a somber video
He’s my friend dude back off
Ah okay so you had a fun weekend then? good for you
Hundo P!
112 yrs later & this still fascinates me.
I think it still fascinates all of us here
Mike, this shift in perspective and context is brilliant and heartbreaking. I have never been so touched, indeed wrecked, by the Titantic story as I have by these last two videos on Carpathia. I strongly encourage you to take this further and write a book and a movie script.
My great grandmother came to Boston on the Carpathia in 1903.
"I've nothing in the world and I have no place to go since my husband is lost. But I'm not afraid, I've always heard that the Americans are the kindest people in the world."
I'd like to know what happened to that woman. Her words stir a very peculiar feeling in my American heart.
Same here, I nearly cried hearing her quote
I pray we lived up to her hopes!
Mike I still remember when I was roughly 12 years old when I went to our public library and I rented the National Geographic VHS copy of the Titanic documentary. I am 41 now and technology has advanced so much that I can now watch beautiful color 3D recreations of the great ship and it brings a whole new light to the disaster. It's been 35 years now since I first started my obsession with Titanic (due to a school library book with a Ken Marschall painting of Titanic), and your videos have sparked a realization that has made it so much more personal for me. I've never seen such beautiful recreations of Titanic and Carpathia before. James Cameron's movie made it feel so much more real with their building of the movie model, but the depth of the brass and copper, the whistles, the beauty of her majestic funnels, the exuberance of her paint and colors of the teak deck planks, just everything brings a whole new light to the ship since all existing photos are black and white. Thank you for everything that you do my friend. Your efforts are truly appreciated. For you it's a work of love, for us it's a world of wonder and amazement.
Imagine if survivors had the access we have today, seeing the ship in beautiful 3D animation and they'd imagine they would be be looking at portal identical in time.
Brilliantly done, thank you. 100 years to the day of the Titanic sinking I found myself at the graveside of Arthur Rostron. It was a very moving experience, his grave had been refurbished by the Titanic Society and I met some of his surviving family. Cunard sent some of their officers along and later a blue plaque was unveiled outside his old house.
You really managed to humanize the survivors' journey to New York. Moved me to tears. I think most people's knowledge of the sinking ends with the sinking or the rescue the next day. Well done. 👍
I was especially struck by the kindness and humanity of young Mr Thayer. Thanks for this one, Mike.
Being a survivor of such a tragedy must of felt like the most depressing victory ever.
Especially if your last name was Ismay.
Survivor’s guilt is a cruel thing. You’re stuck ruminating and spending many sleepless nights over whether or not you deserved to survive, or even believing you’re selfish because you ‘stole’ a chance of escaping from someone who died
My grandfather’s friend was a survivor. He jumped and hung onto a piece of wood for nearly 3 hours before being rescued. He wrote my grandfather a letter after returning to the US.
Yes, but not necessarily.
This is the first time I've tried looking at things from Ismays perspective. Imagine going from being at first just another traumatized survivor to then having not just a a few, not just dozens but hundreds and thousands of people ragefully angry at you simply for being alive. The fact that you arent crushed and drowned in a watery grave makes people angry enough to want to put you there themselves. That would be difficult to live with id think.
And a large part of it was because one man had a grudge and complete control over so many newspapers.
Remember, society at the time frowned quite heavily on ALL the male survivors. One of the main victims of that ire was Colonel Gracie. He offered to help the crewmembers of his lifeboat financially (who's pay had stopped when Titanic hit the berg) and was villified for it!
@@PercyPruneMHDOIFandBars No, that wasn't Colonel Gracie, that was Sir Cosmo Duff-Gordon. When one of Titanics crewmen who was in Duff-Gordon's boat mentioned he and the other crewmen in the boat had lost everything Duff-Gordon gave them five pounds each for new clothing and other essentials. Some hostile pressmen made it look like Duff-Gordon had bribed those crewmen not to turn around and pull survivors from the water.
Colonel Gracie rode the ship into the water while helping to (unsuccessfully) launch one of the last collapsable lifeboats. He very luckily ended up on the overturned collapsible taken in charge by Mr. Lightoller. However the Titanic disaster wrecked Gracie's health and he died later that year but not until he finished his book "The Truth About The Titanic," a very well done work and an interesting read.
@@PercyPruneMHDOIFandBars I believe it was Cosmo Duff-Gordon who offered crew members on Lifeboat 1 five British pounds each to replace their kits. The story got twisted around so that it seemed he was bribing the crew into not returning to the wreck site to pick up swimmers. Seeing how Lifeboat 1 had only 12 people on board when it could seat 40, I don't blame people back then for jumping to that conclusion.
Ismay was rumored to have dressed as a woman to get out of there, but the truth is, there as no one else around to go on the lifeboat since many passengers wanted to say on the bigger ship they thought unsinkable at that point, and if he didn’t get on, that just would have been a vacant seat. He literally did nothing wrong, and he didn’t take a seat from anyone. I really wish he hadn’t gotten the hate he did, and honestly, I absolutely can’t fault any man who did. It was survival. Who the hell wouldn’t have wanted to survive? Had I been a woman on the ship with my daughter, I wouldn’t have given a rat’s ass about anyone until my daughter and husband were safe. I wouldn’t have cared about the survival of ANYONE else AT ALL until they were safe. If that would have meant dressing my husband as a woman, fine. The alternative would have been me and my daughter mourning. It’s a nice thought that we would all willingly sacrifice the men in our families, but most of us really wouldn’t, and I’ll admit that I sure wouldn’t, and I’d never get over being angry at my husband if he would prefer us to be in mourning than to do what he had to to be there for us. So how can I fault anyone who tried to survive?
I grew up right by the old Cunard pier in Manhattan! My grandfather always said you could hear crying if you listened hard enough. The hotel across the street where a lot of them were put up is still there as well. Thank you for all your content, it’s definitely a highlight of my week!
When the exhibition came to Boston, my son knew so much about the tragedy, they wanted him to work for the exhibition. He was 15 though.
Back in the 80s I lived in Halifax and saw some of the Titanic atrifacts at the Maritime Museum of the Atlantic. The more sombre experience was walking through the graveyard where many of Titanic's recovered dead were buried, and seeing the markers listing them as unknown. Another great job, Mike - you covered this part of the story withot needless drama and allowed those involved the dignity they derserve.
I spent some time in Halifax in the early '90s, and I remember what I thought of as the Titanic Cemetery very well. It's a beautiful, but haunting place. Researchers are still running DNA testing on bone samples from some of those graves for comparison to relatives of those who were lost, in an attempt to give the nameless dead back their names and some dignity.
@@thing_under_the_stairs Yes, I had forgotten about the DNA testing - I think it was a few years ago that I heard about them being able to put a name to a grave. Seems like a small thing after all these years, but it's important.
On December 6th 1917, Halifax suffered an even greater loss of life when a French cargo ship loaded with high explosives exploded in the harbor. At least 1780 people died. Most were buried in Halifax. Many came out to watch the burning ship and were killed by the blast wave and flying debris.
2 years ago, I was in Halifax, and on the cemetery, I remember imagining how it must have been 100+ years ago when they brought the victims.. it's up on the hill, very peaceful cemetery
My airbnb was a 10-minute walk from the cemetery.. It's a really beautiful place.. I was in cold winter, December.. you should visit at spring, summer
It never dawned on me before that the Carpathia could have dropped the survivors at Halifax and carried on with her original route. Goes to show just how thoughtful Captain Rostron was.
After watching your Carpathia rescue episode I thought "WHY DID HE END THE STORY THERE?". I am SO glad you released this follow up. Probably as close to a high budget film on the subject matter anyone will ever see. Thank you for organizing and publishing this.
Genuinely love hearing about the titanic. I went to “The Titanic Experience” with my grandma on April 20th. It was an amazing time. My heart goes out to everyone.
Hi Mike! I am 73 years old and twice now u have had me crying like a 2yr old. Captain Rostrum has to be one of the greatest seafarers ever. His foresight and appreciation of the events, the decision not to stay and pick-up the dead and possibly living survivors must have been excruciating to the extreme. A true Hero of heroes
YES!! I've actually wondered about that after the last video about the Carpathia and rescuing the survivors. Thanks again Mike! You rock 😁🤘
The book ‘A Night To Remember’ captivated me in my early teens. It’s been a lifelong obsession since then. Maybe it was the delight and shock of seeing my family name included in the back of the book, listing both survivors and the lost. From that, my personal connection runs deep and strong. Cameron’s TITANIC transported me back in time and enabled me to feel a little closer to those that perished, and perhaps experience a very small realization of what these gallant people went through….
There is movie, "A Night to Remember", which is truly well made and beautiful. Highly recommend.
I can't believe some people like to blame the marconi wireless operators for the tragedy. Now knowing that even after the disaster Harold Bride kept on working for others despite suffering both mentally and physically just shows how much of a hero he was.
To be fair, back there radio existed mainly for passengers. Even SOS as universal "we are screwed, send help immediately" signal wasn't established yet. No mandatory 24/7 listening to radio traffic on ships either. Only afterwards those things were made mandatory.
It’s true that they didn’t get all the ice warnings to the bridge, but we really can’t blame any one person for the tragedy. A lot of things happened that contributed to the disaster. You’re right, Bride was a hero, as was Phillips 🫡
@@melissasheppard6674 We can blame captain Smith, as his mistakes were multiple, from choosing not to reduce speed after receiving ice warning(it wasn't mandatory rule back there, only optional) to not performing drill with passengers(it was planned day before disaster to have safety drill and practice in use of lifeboats) and not very good management of his own crew, once tragedy did happen. From his words before that fatal voyage, he was confident, that nothing can sink Titanic.
Once you think about the fact that there was a ship much closer to Titanic than Carpathia and that the only reason she didn't render assistance was because her wireless operator was asleep, you can understand those that blame the wireless operators.
After all, put yourself in the shoes of the average person who doesn't know how the wireless works. You do know that wireless enables ships to talk to each other at all hours of the day and night. Without knowing that wireless operators weren't legally required to be listening 24/7, obviously you'd imagine that such a possibly life saving technology must be manned at all times in case a ship gets into trouble and needs help. Then a ship sinks, killing 1,500 people and the closest vessel doesn't respond because their wireless was off. A first thought naturally would be "What? How? Was the wireless operator just being lazy? How could he just go to sleep when someone might call for help?"
@@randomlyentertaining8287 Still, if captain of Titanic did things correctly, there would be no sinking and no necessity to call for help.
And due to how expensive radio equipment was, ships rarely had more than one wireless operator. While Titanic could afford having two wireless operators, making it possible to work in shifts, other ships had just one, and if not for Carpathia's wireless operator having a habit to listen on radio before going to bed, there would be no one left alive to rescue.
Thanks for the info on Molly Brown. She wasn't only "unsinkable", but also a heroine!
Imagine being a dockworker at New York when Carpathia left, only to then see her return with the survivors of Titanic along with the news that the latter ship sank.
...with the myth of the unsinkable ship shattering like glass". Indeed, like the skylight above the Grand Staircase.
This and your previous video (re: Carpathia's sprint to Titanic) have been really interesting and unexpectedly moving. I guess It's only natural to focus mainly on the hard technical aspects of the collision and sinking, but getting the larger human interest side of the story adds a lot of insight and appreciation for the remarkable efforts of Carpathia's crew and passengers, Titanic's (able) survivors, and so many others that helped as many as possible. I think it's a bit of a miracle that Carpathia didn't suffer her own collision with the ice, to be honest, and I also didn't realize what a large percentage of Titanic's crew were lost. So thanks for expanding our understanding and our empathy by allowing us a glimpse into some of the experiences and fates of the many people swept up in this event, Mike. Much appreciated and extremely well done as always sir!
It also gives more of a feeling that these events actually happend and isn't a story, idk just me?
mike really is a excellent storyteller and the new animations really add a new level of quality to his already well produced content. I never thought I'd become interested in a ship that sank over a hundred years ago, I remember watching the Titanic when it came out and the theater was so full we were forced to sit all the way up front and let me tell you, our necks were killing us after 3 hours of looking up lol. and for another decade plus some years I never gave it much thought until I came across this channel and now I look forward to watching his stuff while eating a good meal which Imma do tonight. Sunday crab fest baby and ocean liner design video FTW lol
@@SimonDman yeah, I definitely think it does make it feel more "real".
@@skeetrix5577 great way to spend an evening! I had seen the 1950s movie "a night to remember" awhile back and it was pretty good, all things considered. But Mike's detail and these incredible animations bring it into sharp focus for me. It comes closest to making it real in my opinion.
It's absurd some of the titanic survivors were given ice cream immediately after getting rescued.
It's tragic of how many kids adults and innocent souls cried that night and how many people griefed after that tragic event that took place over 110 years ago
Carpathia’s captain truly is an unsung hero for all he did, and the passengers on the ship should get a crazy amount of credit too for their part in helping the survivors. I really wish there was a movie about this, and that Authur Rostron’s name was as well known as EJ Smith’s.
16:51 This line really stuck with me. In such a tragic situation, hearing someone find hope in kindness is beautiful. It's a shame that many can't say the same about America nowadays.
Hello. I enjoy watching travel vlogs of foreigners traveling across the USA. One thing they all say is how friendly Americans. All is not lost. 💖
We are still here.
The captain and crew's consideration for the passengers, including shielding them from nosy journalists, will always be something I admire.
Really went above and beyond.
You made my day Mr. Brady, hearing how Margaret Brown put something together for the second and third class passengers put a smile on my face, thanx!
Once again, you've knocked it out of the ball park. Excellent job. Thanks for a story that needed to be told.
Thank you for the kind words!
The story of What happened on the Carpathia taking Titanic Survivors to New York , is often overlooked . I loved this Mike . Very well done .
My great grandfather’s third cousin died on the Titanic. His name was Manuel Uruchurtu Ramirez from Mexico. 🇲🇽
The stories about the Carpathia's rescue of Titanic survivors that you have uploaded are extremely well done. They are so interesting and filled with facts and your calm voice is very pleasant to listen to. No effects, no drama - only you telling the story. That is all we need. You are a true star in your own right - white, red, blue or whatever the colour is doesn't matter.
That was handled better than any of the major news companies of the time and today could ever record.
You did it with the up most grace and treated each victim as though you knew them personally.
Ty very much for recording this, to honour the dead , the living and the lost.
It's utterly fascinating and very moving.
Mr Brady is brilliant.
I couldn't have said it better than you did. He made the whole tragedy come alive in a way that James Cameron didn't for me at least. 22:03
Beautiful video. Extremely well done. You did the facts and the survivors stories credit and with dignity.
Another phenomenal piece. It seems remarkable that (to my knowledge) there's never been a movie or show dedicated to the aftermath and fallout of the Titanic disaster. It's a story that's begging to be told.
So Ismay was basically arrested on arrival in NYC just because he survived.
But people expected him to be dead in a watery grave. Yeah I get he was the chairman but he had just experienced what the other survivors had. He did what he could and then decided to get in a boat.
Who wouldn’t get into a lifeboat if given the chance. Answer me honestly: it is in our basic human instinct to survive no matter what.
I can understand with his position that did bring a certain amount of scrutiny but what more could he possibly have done? He couldn’t save everyone. He tried his best to and he was seen by survivors to be a broken man afterwards. Just like the others he was completely destroyed by the tragedy mentality and physically.
In the end it all boils down to the fact that they needed a villain for their story and he was in their eyes the perfect candidate to fit that role.
It’s wrong and a complete farce. Maybe his actions were questionable for that night. Maybe they wasn’t. Either way I do not believe he deserved the treatment he received.
There's an interesting book by Wyn Craig Wade, The Titanic: End of a Dream, that describes Ismay's actions on that fateful night in detail using the testimony from the US Senate hearing.
Unlike Captain Smith, Ismay seemed to grasp the urgency of the disaster and what was seen as meddling by some of the officers - particularly in his urging that the lifeboats be lowered more quickly - might now be understood as a genuine concern and dismay at the indecisiveness of the crew and command staff.
@@Callen68 I have a different book which details the beginning of the investigation into the disaster and they really layed into him. I’ve read his testimony which I why I don’t believe he deserved what he got as he acted fast and was in my opinion he was a hero. But that’s only my opinion and the official inquiry thought differently about his actions that night. Which I strongly disagree with.
@@nager1997 I quite agree that Ismay was unduly chastised by the official investigations, particularly the British inquiry. Unfortunately -- but all too common -- those who sat in judgment of his actions needed a scapegoat to deflect the public outrage from their own culpability regarding the various safety regulations that Titanic so clearly proved were outdated and inadequate.
As you point out, he behaved with much more urgency than many of the crew, and just as the government officials in charge of the inquiry needed to shift blame so too did the surviving officers. I would hesitate to suggest that any of them intentionally lied, but one must admit that human nature tends to lead one to enhance their own role in an event while simultaneously looking to minimize responsibility for things that were done incorrectly.
@@Callen68 his life was practically over then. It ruined his entire remaining life and his career. All because he survived and movies don’t help because they only paint him as a mustach twirling egotistical villain.
But that’s not who he really was because he you read about him from before the disaster he was a very much respected person and a nice man. But all that went out the window when he dared to step into a lifeboat and that decision changed his life forever and he didn’t even know it yet.
What people defending him fail to grasp are the different values and mores of the time...especially in the English class system. What Ismay did was considered deeply cowardly and unmanly in 1912. Chivalry was a cherished value at the time.
The Jack Thayer quote at the end of the video is such a visceral quote and will forever remind me of the A&E Titanic documentary Death of a Dream. I saved up and bought that documentary on VHS when I was a kid and must have watched it a thousand times lol. For the time it was hands down the best Titanic documentary you could find!!
I remember A&E's "Death Of A Dream" myself, a superb documentary! I recorded it and watched it many, many times afterward.
The Jack Theyer quote really seems applicable today. After this event the world changed. What about Covid? Violence and technology and progress all seem to be speeding up, the world was forever changed, March 13, 2020.
@@jacksonfox2434 To my mind the 21st Century began September 11th, 2001.
In a sense we can say Jack Thayer was right, the tumultuous 20th Century began April 15th, 1912.
Centurys don't necessarily start on calendar dates, sometimes there's a bit of inertia before one age becomes another.
Agreed 100%. Loved that documentary. Used that quote in a JR. High project on Titanic.
Speaking of "Death Of A Dream" have any of you gents read Wyn Craig Wade's "Titanic: End Of A Dream?"
(Craig was featured on that "Death Of A Dream" documentary.)
It's a VERY interesting history of the Titanic disaster. Actually it's not so much a history of the disaster as it is of Senator William Alden Smith's investigation. A very interesting treatment as well, after hearing of the disaster at the same time Senator Smith does we don't find out what happened until Senator Smith does during the investigation. A very clever approach and a good read!
Thank you for doing this well researched summary about the immediate aftermath of the sinking. Titanic will never, hopefully, be forgotten. Because the disaster that came upon her improved safety standards at sea. It was a hard lesson.
It should be noted that "happy like the night I was born" is a reference to having screamed and cried the entire time.
I will always have the upmost respect and admiration for Captain E.J. Smith, 2nd Officer Lightoller, Jack Phillips, Harold Bride, 1st Officer William McMaster Murdoch, Thomas Andrews, Chief Officer Joseph Bell, along with all of the many stokers, electricians, officers, and so many crew members who stood their posts and kept Titanic's lights and steam up until the last possible moment. Not to mention the bravery of those such as J.J. Astor, Benjamin Guggenheim, Ida and Isador Strauss (who went down together), and the tragedies that were endured in the entirety of 3rd class. Today the story of 3rd class gates being locked and guarded is absolutely blasphemous, and while there are conflicting stories that say that never happened, I find it rather easy to believe for the time as 3rd class passengers were referred to as "steerage" (or cattle), but they were the passengers who paid for those great ships back then as they were packed in by the HUNDREDS.
You must know that with just a touch more on the production, this is worthy of an official, cinematic, historical art piece. Your collaboration is extraordinary. I am speechless. 👏
So glad you are enjoying it!
I literally just finished watching Carpathia's Wild Dash! So great timing with this one:)
Glad to see the continued story of this tragic event. Despite the how long ago it has happened, my heart still goes out to the survivors.
Wow, incredible. Thank you for sharing. Ismay was horribly affected just like the rest of the survivors, yet was treated terribly. Someome was needed to blame and he was it, ruthless.
Just when you think you can't love the captain and crew of the Carpathia anymore; you're pleasantly surprised every single time.
Somehow this makes the whole disaster feel far more real, hearing the aftermath, and hearing it from an almost passenger-like perspective, or at least a bird's eye view of actual events. It makes it far easier to see the survivors as actual humans somehow. It's great, and I appreciate all the effort that's been put into these videos. Although I will say that it's very heart wrenching to imagine the Titanic disaster this way.
Thank you Mike Brady for this moving video. I cry for the people who went through this horrific experience and am so grateful for your work on these amazing videos.
Finally a Titanic video that I haven't seen or has been just a rehashing of an older one. Great job Mike, our friend at Oceanliner Designs.
11:07 I remember that this mixup caused a lot of grief among the surviving crew's families due to the reshuffle/demotions among the senior officers before the sailing. Sylvia Lightoller in particular received two types of messages about the fate of her husband; some reassuring her that the second officer (his position, replaced David Blair) had survived, and others offering their condolences as the first officer (his original position, replaced by Murdoch) was dead.
It wasn't until several days later, when Lightoller sent a personal telegram to his wife, that she knew he was alive and well. The same couldn't be said for Ada Murdoch or Henry Wilde's children, sadly.
Thank you for the details about the Carpathia, I had not heard these details before.
At this time the wireless radio was only a few years old.
These operators did a fantastic job with very primitive equipment.
Great work Mike Brady. A shame Carpathia's efforts are not that well known.
31:13 that quote really resonated with me. The Titanic disaster was a world changing event and nothing was the same afterwards. I was alive to witness the 9/11 attacks. The world I was growing up in suddenly disappeared and everything was different after that. Titanic was this man's 9/11
If you ever watch "Ghosts of the Abyss" it is about a dive trip to Titanic's wreck that James Cameron did with Bill Paxton coincidentally during 9/11. They make parallels between the two disasters in the documentary.
25:35 I love the fact that Marconi thanked Bride personally onboard the Carpathia. Very moving.
I always think About the movie Titanic. And it feels bad but also romantic. With leo and kat. But you sometimes forget About the real people on the Titanic and there trauma. I will never forget it because of This video. Thank you
Gosh. Listening to this made me cry. Amazing that something that happened over 100 years ago can make me get emotional.
It taps into feelings not our sense of time.
Yay, it’s our friend Mike Brady from Oceanliner Designs!
Mike Brady produces more content than I even have time to watch
He must have a great team behind him.
@@WhatALoadOfTosca Being able to use THG animations and have their guy make him new stuff must also really help
@@YourSweatyUncle Yeah if only they’d focus on finishing the project instead of all their side projects
Mike Brady, I have been a fan since first discovering your channel years ago. You only get better. I’ve also watched literally everything about the Titanic since the story first captivated me 50 years ago. This three-part video series is your masterpiece. You could never do another thing, and the world would owe you a tremendous debt for your contribution to maritime history. This third episode told me a story I’d never heard before, wrenching tears from my eyes and giving me even new appreciation for those brave souls who endured the tragedy and those who rescued them. Bravo Mike Brady. Bravo!
Fantastic video. Incredibly comprehensive and emotional without being sensationalised. I am so struck by how both humane the response was. So much compassion was given to the survivors on the night and days after by their rescuers and the attention to their welfare following their return to land. I thought trauma recognition really came about following WWI but clearly I had a very limited perspective on the level of awareness and care for these issues that were already present. Like the quote from the video “mentally sick”. Really great video, can’t wait to check out more from this channel!
Wow!! When this video dropped I realised I actually knew very little about what happened once the Carpathia arrived at port. This was another absolutely fascinating video. I often listen to these as I go off to sleep, your voice is so soothing. The downside is I end up watching/listening to only half your videos as I fall asleep for the last half, OR the video is super interesting and I stay awake to listen! Still worth it.
I own an issue of The New York Times from April 16th, 1912, the one you showed right at the end. It's so weird to hold something that told so many of a historical event that we all just know. I'm fortunate enough to have the entire paper from that day although I'm too nervous to take it out of its plastic envelope to look at the the rest of it considering it just turned 112 years old last week!! I very much enjoy your videos and as a very small, as of now I'm over 1000 subscribers!, TH-camr I'm so impressed with the amount of work you put into these videos!!
Such a moving retelling, Mike, just wonderful. I was so touched by Bride’s humility and dedication to his work, even upon meeting Marconi himself.
My Grandmother was born in 1900 in Co Wicklow. Her family some of those who boarded Titanic. They were never heard from again. So very sad.
Once again very well done! I have been really enjoying these anniversary documentaries!! Hearing that the crew tried so hard to keep reporters from harassing the survivors is so touching. Another reason the story of Carpathia’s rescue needs to be remembered.
...Mike, you seem intent on gaining both confidence and technical expertise with each presentation, and your artistry only grows stronger. Well done again!
one of the best titanic videos so far IMO, there's lots of light on the incident itself but I never realized until now that I never really hear about what came next
I really love your attention to the news of the time; how it was sensationalized and was frequently at the whim of whoever controlled the newspaper.
It's important context that often gets overlooked, so I appreciate it deeply here.
I could listen to My friend Mike Brady all day long.
I love hearing these other ancillary ture stories of people stepping up in the face of tragedy. Truly amazing stuff
Wow Mike! I have seen a lot of documentaries on the sinking of Titanic but your production was the most powerful and emotive I have ever seen. I can't thank you enough for sharing it with us. Please keep producing and be assured I will keep watching.
Now you understand why the “Captain should go down with the Ship “ as he will never be able to explain why he lived and someone else died!!!!!!!
Loving the Titanic April content
Mike Brady, you and your team did a masterful job on this video. Thank you.
Captain Raustraums consideration of and compassion for the survivors and thier anxiously waiting families is an example of humanity at its finest.
Our Friend Mike Brady does it again!! We love your work and service bringing Titanic to life. Very impressive as always! Thank you and your research and hard work.
the fact that Ismay, having been portrayed as a villain in all media of Titanic, was a victim character assassination, and in fact served as a help as Titanic was sinking. It's time that he is rightly portrayed as the man he was, and not told of.
An exceptional narrative, moving and well researched. It's about time this part of the Titanic story was put on film by Hollywood. This is the real human tragedy of that night everyone remembers and not the sensationalism of the previous blockbuster.
A man working with his wireless system in Wales picked up the Titanic's distress signal and ran to a local police station to inform them. Still, they didn't believe him because, of course, the ship was unsinkable.
This is probably your best video. It would have been a surreal snapshot in the aftermath and this encapsulates all of that beautifully. Like modern tragedies, the confusion and misinformation, clouds the experience of those who actually had to live through it.
Goodness me our friend Mike Brady's storytelling is on another level. This should be turned into an audiobook.
A very poignant, thoroughly researched, and exceptionally well-presented documentary on the rescue of Titanic's survivors with so much previously unreported information. Thank you.
News that our fingertips is so true. My sister and I were in the Texas Panhandle fires this last February, and we were just constantly rotating through the Facebook news/ city pages. Finding out what was blocked off where the fire was and where our evacuation zone was going to be, and where we were to evacuate to. We did that for hours, and then I took a sleep, and she took the first half of the night woke me up and I continued the watch.
For those wanting to see it in Liverpool, the head office building is still there, with the famous balcony where the names were thrown from.
If memory serves me right, it's a restaurant and hotel now.
So tragic what happened! Even over century later. Thanks Mike
I think that beyond the sinking itself, not having too many pictures of the real Titanic before the sink it's so tragic.
Your timing on this video is perfect. I was just wondering the other day about what happened to the survivors after they arrived in NYC. The story of Titanic always seems to end with her sinking and there's so much more to follow up on with the survivors and families as well as those who lost their loved ones and how life changed for them. I saw A Night to Remember for the first time and loved how much story time they gave the crew with all of their efforts to get everyone off the ship and keep her afloat for as long as possible. Thank you for all your hard work Mike. I'm a new sub and thoroughly enjoy your content.🌺
Have never really heard many details from after what happened, other than that Carpathia rescued survivors. Thank you for telling of the heroic efforts of all who helped both on Carpathia and after docking.
But some things never change - the media is a hungry beast and will go for the jugular, same was true even 100 years ago. Ismay never had a chance to recover.
My friend mike Brady from ocean liner designs! I have a video request. I think it would be awesome to get your insight on the sinking of the bc ferries vessel queen of the north. Could make for a really interesting video as there’s a lot of heresay around what really happened.
Hey! It's our friend Mike Brady, from Oceanliner Designs
I have been fascinated by titanic since I was about 4. 35 years later and I consume any documentary/information I can on her. Your videos are incredible! So well put together and informative. Thank you! I have a love for all ships now that I never realised before stumbling across your channel 6 months or so ago.
Thanks again!
I just love these videos. I never get tired of them