my mother i kid you not on cruises she takes a type of special forces kit bag with everything init for survival! Tapped lol sorry mam, but it is true lol
Just a minor point: The distress call was received by Olympic, Frankfurt, Mount Temple, Carpathia, Masaba, Baltic, Virginian, Burma, but it wasn't received by the Californian. Her wireless operator was asleep at the time.
In the 1953 movie, apart from the frickin’ rockets, the ship’s horn kept blowing and so did the alarm for evacuation of the ship. I believe this would have been an accurate scenario of what was happening on the real Titanic. Would the Californian not have heard these in the distance, after all it was a very calm night?
3:54 The soundtrack composer of that film, "A Night to Remember", was alive for only ten more days after Robert Ballard's expedition found the Titanic's wreck. His name was William Alwyn, and he died on September 11 1985 .
As all accidents it was several reasons it sank, no Binoculars for the lookout, speeding, fire in the boiler room, poor rivets, not enough life boats etc etc
The binoculars … How could a ship the size of the Titanic, the biggest of all ships, not have more than one set of binoculars placed in different strategic places for use on the crow’s nest, the most important lookout spot for seeing what’s ahead, in this case the frickin’ iceberg!
About poor rivets I hear Harland & Wolff didn't really use low-quality materials they wouldn't want to have to go to court if anything serious happened to their ships out there over sub-standard materials. H&W was reportedly very proud of its product.
Considering so many overly rich women refused to believe the Olympic (not really the Titanic)would sink so wouldn't go on the early lifeboats, leaving them only half full, it wasn't at all cowardly for any number of men to fill the empty spaces. In this day and age it would likely be children with one of their parents first, then every man and woman for themselves.....and why not? What was unforgivable was that poor steerage passengers were locked in and left to die in the freezing Atlantic Sea, or drown in it.
will you stop judging MR. ISMAY? NOBODY KNOWS NOTHING UNTIL WE LIVE IN FLESH WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE LIVING. HE TOOK A SEAT IN A BOAT AFTER THERE WERE NO MORE WOMEN OR CHILDREN NEARBY AND AFTER THE SINKING OF TITANIC, ISMAY SPENT THE REST OF HIS LIFE HELPING THE FAMILIES OF THE PEOPLE THEY LOST. IT IS EASY TO JUDGE HIM AS A COWARD, BUT IF YOU WERE ON THE TITANIC, WOULDN'T YOU TRY TO SAVE YOURSELF FROM THE HORROR OF SINKING IN AN ICY WATER AT DEAD OF NIGHT WITH NO MOON?
21:58 It was impossible indeed Cpt Lord was told about all the eight rockets and reportedly said in court that he heard about only one rocket. I think Cpt Lord just didn't feel like giving up on his nice and toasty warm bunk.
19:57 The crew were afraid the lifeboats would buckle and break if they filled them right up. And in turn it was a fault of duty on part of Cpt Smith to allow lifeboats to leave less than full
YES the captain of the titanic is to be blamed if you have to blame captains, but the other ship captain could have helped. this is the first time i'm hearing about the temple mount ship
SS Mount temple was so far away that they would have arrived hours after Titanic would've perished. Other ships like frankfurt, Baltic, Ypiranga and even her own sister ship Olympic were also contacted but sadly they too were too far away
No doubt the Californian could've helped Cpt Lord should've made changes like Rostron did. As Robert Ballard said one time, considering how dangerous travel can be on the North Atlantic, "I would always hope that the other mariner out there would stretch a little to save my life."
9:02 I hear from Wikipedia that as soon as the Californian saw that ship coming up from the east-southeast Cpt Lord asked Evans if he knew of any ships in the area. Evans said "Only the Titanic" So then it's not like the Californian didn't know until dawn that the Titanic was around (as is still often heard); at least Lord and Evans knew exactly what that ship was, all along
0:58 That Californian could've really come to the rescue too. Just like Rostron Capt Lord could've made changes and accommodations for the survivors. It would've earned him and his crew big-time recognition, just like the Carpathia. Also, things would've been faster with two rescue ships at the scene
Some things to consider... it would have been fairly dangerous for another ship to navigate safely in the dead of night in an icefield. Even if they got to the ship before it sank, it would have been very hard to transport that many people from one ship to another, either by lifeboats or picking them out of the cold sea before they perished. I don't think there was enough time, even if the ship was beside it when it hit the berg, to get everyone to safety in time. At least some lives would have been lost, possibly less than the number who did die, but I doubt everyone on board could have been saved. It just would have been too difficult to orchestrate a full evacuation, particularly after it was obvious the ship was sinking and panic set in. The sad truth is, even if a ship could have attempted to help in time, it was really Captain Smith's fault the ship sank and so many lives were lost.
@@graphiquejack Well there seems to be different schools of thought about this whole Californian affair The Carpathia made it through the icefield still at night with a vastly increased number of lookouts and successfully rescued as many as she could. And the Californian was way closer (three times closer if we believe Cpt Lord when he said 19mi; Robert Ballard determined she was only 10 mi away - at the most)
My Late Dad told me there were other ships in the vicinity, but I had heard only of the Californian. It is intersting to know the Mount Temple was nearer but rfused to help Titanic.
@@Janillo2782 Mount Temple was not nearer. The nonsensical that she could be identified because of her four tall masts is not credible. Simply look up photo. of Mount Tempt & Californian. The two ships are very similar, and both have four tall masts. But of course the 'documentary' chose not to mention that, of course.
@@Tozzpot500 According to Robert Ballard the Californian was only 10mi away at the very most A small newspaper in Clinton Massachusetts at the time, the Clinton Daily Item, printed a shocking story claiming that the Californian refused to aid the Titanic. The source was her carpenter, James McGregor, who added that the ship was close enough to see the Titanic's lights and distress rockets. The first serious charges against Cpt Lord and his officers had thus been raised.
Whatever you do, do not watch Mysteries of the Grave: Titanic, that has got to be the worst Titanic ‘documentary’ ever. If you want to watch, don’t take what it presents as fact
8:08 It was an "extraordinary night" not only for Lord but I guess also for Lightoller. I still can't believe the answer Lightoller gave to question 14197 at the British inquiry Can you suggest at all how it can have come about that this iceberg should not have been seen at a greater distance? - It is very difficult indeed to come to any conclusion. Of course, we know now the extraordinary combination of circumstances that existed at that time which you would not meet again once in 100 years; that they should all have existed just on that particular night shows, of course, that everything was against us. That's not a ship's officer, that's a teen. He was the 2nd officer so we're talking someone with vast experience on the North Atlantic. What an example to set to the junior officers. The court wasn't impressed either and the message seemed to be, as Walter Lord put it so well, that the accident was of the one-in-a-million variety. Friend of mine said to me one time that the accident was of the "preventable variety."
I completely believe it was that it was swapped for the Titanic because the Olympic was damaged and there was no claim on insurance for it. Reportedly, a few men worked over the weekend to change the portholes and put on a nameplate over the word "Olympic". Indeed, at that time the name of the ship was always painted directly on to the sides. There might still be a video which was made of the wreck of the so called Titanic with the nameplate broken with one half fallen away and showing some of the name Olympic beneath. Look up the maritime accidents of the Captain. Why would they have put him in charge of the true Titanic? An alcoholic who had already damaged the Olympic and more. It seems it was his fault the Olympic and the ship it crashed into was previously damaged to the point of disrepair to meet sea worthy standards of the time. I read that a lot of the workers on board disembarked before it finally sailed for the US. They realised it was the Olympic. A call went out for replacement workers and the company lied they were striking for greedily wanting more pay. Unfortunately, many of those who took the jobs were foreign and didn't understand English enough when the original workers tried to warn them, and those who did understand English were told it was a lie to stop them taking the jobs. As for the deaths of those who were going to vote against the Federal Reserve, it was probably not intended they would actually die. Remember there was another ship close enough to reach them in time, but its Captain ignored the distress call because they were working for rival companies. The excuse was that the Captain of the nearby ship thought it was a ruse to divert them and ensure the "Titanic" reached the US first. Also there were enough lifeboats for the first class passengers, especially as the steerage passengers had been locked below! Many of the early boats were barely half full. It was pig headedness not to allow men or steerage passengers on the early boats with so much room to spare. Reportedly, a lot of the first class passengers wouldn't believe the "unsinkable" so called Titanic could sink until the situation was obvious, and that was why they wouldn't get in the boats at first. In addition, I read that it wasn't intended it would hit an iceberg. There was something planned to be done quite further along and a unexpected ship was seen simply not moving. Waiting to pick up at least first class passengers? Some accounts of survivors have said about hearing the "Titanic" hitting the iceberg. Others said they didn't hear it and didn't think it actually did hit it. Who knows what really happened? The bulk heads didn't go to the top as they are supposed to, so when not only one or two compartments were flooded with the water spilling over the top of the bulkheads, five of them became flooded. Probably cost cutting to not using so much metal to ensure water wouldn't spill over the top of one bulkhead to another. Not planned nor foreseen, as it was probably the same on a lot of the ships at the time. That the shareholders would die was probably not the intention. The delay would have been enough to ensure they weren't present for the vote. More likely it was a matter of not caring too much of they did die but it wasn't the explicit intention. Of course whether others died didn't matter to those who planned it. When the overly rich and far too powerful do a thing, especially a big thing, it is usually for more than one reason. Remember though that the shareholders who were going to vote against the Rothschild plans, weren't necessarily going to vote against because they had the public interest at heart. They might have had other reasons, such as the Rothschilds gaining far more power than they themselves would have. Perhaps they wanted a better deal for themselves. I doubt we will ever know their reasons but they were unlikely to have been very conscientious about the average Jo and Joanna Blogs. My 1920 father heard it was the Olympic when he was young. Of course his parents, my grandparents, were old enough to remember it when it happened, and word got around those days even without it being in the papers, and people not having TV's, radios or the Internet. From the way my father spoke, it seemed it was quite common knowledge but of course never officially admitted to. Reportedly, a number of very rich and powerful people mysteriously cancelled their tickets shortly prior to the sailing. The word was that they had received a warning to not go on. Didn't we hear a number of ()ewich people were telephoned on the morning and told to not go to work at the Twin Towers? Probably not all ()ewich people, not the poor and 'inconsequential'.
41:40 Lord Mersey was tough during the inquiry proper but his report according to quite a few was very restrained. "It was colorless timid and cautious" they complained and they added "We had expected more backbone in Lord Mersey"
Here's why the Titanic's story will just never die: (1) she was the world's biggest movable man-made object of her day, (2) she excelled in luxury, (3) she was on her maiden voyage (of all voyages), (4) there were many celebrities of the day on board, (5) there was already a lot of talk about all her features before she was ever launched (including the whole "unsinkability" talk), and (6) she was the world's newest ocean liner of her time . It seems the Titanic will always be in our minds despite herself; unlike the ship itself, the story remains unsinkable
Not to mention the slow even flooding rather than most ships that flood quickly and capsize, and sitting on the sea floor upright. It all adds up to the magic and mystery of the titanic
@@Rko11148 yeah 2 hour 40 minutes to sink and still such high loss of life. gives people time to experience it rather than loseing huge chunks of the night because it sank in half an hour. it lets people gradulary go through there emotions and watch other people. it really sank in a very strange way that most ships dont. i saw it mentioned on a documentry once that the trimmers kept moveing the coal around during the sinking to make sure she sank the way she did. How true that is i have no idea but its intresting to think. ive never read it anywhere or heard it since so i doubt its true.
6:07 1st Officer Murdoch, along with Cpt Smith and Thomas Andrews, may in the end have actually chosen to go down with the ship rather than potentially get faced with hefty, unpleasant grilling at court (and probably jail time too, on top of that). It would've been either that or at least they were afraid of becoming outcasts. The reasons are very cogent: Murdoch issued the very orders that failed to save the ship; Cpt Smith and Thomas Andrews knew exactly that the Titanic had far from enough lifeboats.
Word my 1920 born father heard was that alcoholic Smith had gone to bed in a drunken stupor. My father's parents were old enough to remember the information that wouldn't have been put in the newspapers, and would never be officially said or written.
He went against int'l maritime law by failing to aid a ship in distress. As Robert Ballard remarked with a chuckle "Here is a man who got marked - marked for what had happened. I feel sorry for anyone who gets marked - for whatever happens." That's the thing; this is where you do it, this is where you pay for it .
A quite interesting story I've heard about Ismay is that around the time "A Night to Remember" was published in November 1955 Walter Lord got a letter from England about the "remarkable finish" at the 1913 Derby in Epsom Downs. Craganour, the favourite, crossed the line first and was escorted to the winners' circle. Then, without a protest from anyone, it was disqualified and the race was awarded to second-place Aboyeur. Craganour, Lord's correspondent said, was owned by Bruce Ismay, and I guess the inference is clear: the establishment would never let an Ismay-owned horse win the hallowed Derby. Walter Lord then went to check the story. Everything turned out to be accurate except for one important detail. Joseph Bruce Ismay didn't own Craganour. His younger brother, Charles Bower Ismay, did. Still, Craganour remained disqualified. The reason? Craganour's original jockey had been replaced by an American one, Johnny Reiff. I don't know why that was but the move was immensely unpopular, and the discussions the judges are (apparently) supposed to conduct at the end of the race before announcing the winner presented them with the golden opportunity to discredit Reiff. Walter Lord, though, said he still got letters afterwards still linking Bruce (not Bower) Ismay and Craganour together
When the Titanic sent her distress call the Olympic was about 505 miles away, the Mount Temple was roughly 60 miles away, the Burma, 55 miles, the Virginia, 170mi N, and the Frankfurt was between 120 and 150 nautical miles away. And the Carpathia herself was a whole 58 miles from the scene. This shows that there weren't "always other ships that close by on the busy North Atlantic run" to help if anything happened, as was often stated. Well in the Titanic's case there was the Californian but then Cpt Lord didn't bother coming .
12:04 Rather, the impact brought Cpt Smith back to the bridge; only ~2.5hrs earlier he had a talk about the approaching ice with Lightoller who was then still on duty on the bridge
41:01 When he was called to testify Cpt Lord thought he would just need to explain why his ship was stopped for the night while the Titanic sped through the ice. "It will take me about 15min to do this", he told reporters in Boston. Was he ever wrong
In the film there was a pressure on captain to go faster. İ don t think that captain said to them "it's deadly risky", if it were he never ever leave the ship steering wheel.
47:42 Cpt Smith along with Thomas Andrews and 1st Officer Murdoch, may in the end have actually chosen to go down with the ship rather than potentially get faced with hefty, unpleasant grilling at court (and probably jail time too, on top of that). It would've been either that or at least they were afraid of becoming outcasts. The reasons are very cogent: Cpt Smith and Thomas Andrews knew exactly that the Titanic had far from enough lifeboats; Murdoch issued the very orders that failed to save the ship .
@@jadethornton7975 "Highlighted reply" here too; I know a few others told me that too (and I am certainly not trying to be simplistic) but still it is possible that the three of them entertained those thoughts .
i always thought that the mistery ship was not the Californian i feel so much pain for captain lord i think he die that night too, i know what happend was very sad and no one can say for sure what really happend that night because we was not there but so many things played a part of the titanic sinking to blame one person is so wrong, i believe even if they had more life boats i don;t think they would of had time to lower them away the best thing they could of done was to make sure all the seat in the lifeboats were filled even if it meant putting men in to the boats
Irony: Lightoller, who enforced the, "Women and Children Only", saved himself by getting into a lifeboat. Ismay, sensible enough to get into a boat was savagely condemned.
@@siphoernest2278 Deep down they all knew they were doing something outrageously wrong failing to supply full lifeboat capacity and putting captains on such tight schedules (and who knows what else) .
From everything I had heard, I always thought the Californian was the nearest ship so this explanation is new to me and I don’t know what to believe anymore ??”
If I was in a lifeboat I'd have made sure to steer towards the stationary ship.....if it wouldn't come to us we'd have to go to them. Then at least they could have sent the alarm up and got that ship to go and help the Titanic's passengers.
Lifeboat #8 did but once everyone in it saw those other rockets going up on the south it stopped going towards that will-o'-the-wisp to the north and swung around to head for that "more promising beacon of hope" (Walter Lord).
4:21 She may've been performing well but apparently not quite to Cpt Smith's satisfaction. On her way to Cherbourg and Cobh (Queenstown at the time) Cpt Smith ordered a few lazy S turns to test the ship around (adjust the compasses among other things). You don't do that during a voyage with people on board Capt you do that during sea trials; that's what sea trials are for. That's not the approach of an experienced sea captain that's the approach of a teen. So once again Capt Smith how much did you really know about the vessel under your feet??
@@rogerwallace5473 The last lifeboat, Collapsible D, left the Titanic at 2:05am, 15min before the ship eventually slid beneath the waves so the crew actually managed, if barely, to lower all the lifeboats
One New England paper talked about "manslaughter" at sea "on an unprecedented scale." Ismay sure got pilloried big-time for what happened and, like Cpt Lord, marked for it .
Oh no! not another Know-it-all theory of what happened to the Titanic. Don't waste nearly 50 minutes of your time wondering what happened, I can sum it up in a single sentence of two words as to what happened...It sank.
@@Fee212 I have great respect for those who did all they could that terrible night of the sinking of the Titanic. It annoys me when someone wants to profit from what happened by pretending to know something other than what everybody already knows about the event. There is no fresh or new evidence, it has been gone over and over for over a hundred years and some people want us to believe they know something that has never been mentioned before. Just so they can make money from a TH-cam video. Let these people rest in peace now. We all know what happened.
I completely believe it was that it was swapped for the Titanic because the Olympic was damaged and there was no claim on insurance for it. Reportedly, a few men worked over the weekend to change the portholes and put on a nameplate over the word "Olympic". Indeed, at that time the name of the ship was always painted directly on to the sides. There might still be a video which was made of the wreck of the so called Titanic with the nameplate broken with one half fallen away and showing some of the name Olympic beneath. Look up the maritime accidents of the Captain. Why would they have put him in charge of the true Titanic? An alcoholic who had already damaged the Olympic and more. It seems it was his fault the Olympic and the ship it crashed into was previously damaged to the point of disrepair to meet sea worthy standards of the time. I read that a lot of the workers on board disembarked before it finally sailed for the US. They realised it was the Olympic. A call went out for replacement workers and the company lied they were striking for greedily wanting more pay. Unfortunately, many of those who took the jobs were foreign and didn't understand English enough when the original workers tried to warn them, and those who did understand English were told it was a lie to stop them taking the jobs. As for the deaths of those who were going to vote against the Federal Reserve, it was probably not intended they would actually die. Remember there was another ship close enough to reach them in time, but its Captain ignored the distress call because they were working for rival companies. The excuse was that the Captain of the nearby ship thought it was a ruse to divert them and ensure the "Titanic" reached the US first. Also there were enough lifeboats for the first class passengers, especially as the steerage passengers had been locked below! Many of the early boats were barely half full. It was pig headedness not to allow men or steerage passengers on the early boats with so much room to spare. Reportedly, a lot of the first class passengers wouldn't believe the "unsinkable" so called Titanic could sink until the situation was obvious, and that was why they wouldn't get in the boats at first. In addition, I read that it wasn't intended it would hit an iceberg. There was something planned to be done quite further along and a unexpected ship was seen simply not moving. Waiting to pick up at least first class passengers? Some accounts of survivors have said about hearing the "Titanic" hitting the iceberg. Others said they didn't hear it and didn't think it actually did hit it. Who knows what really happened? The bulk heads didn't go to the top as they are supposed to, so when not only one or two compartments were flooded with the water spilling over the top of the bulkheads, five of them became flooded. Probably cost cutting to not using so much metal to ensure water wouldn't spill over the top of one bulkhead to another. Not planned nor foreseen, as it was probably the same on a lot of the ships at the time. That the shareholders would die was probably not the intention. The delay would have been enough to ensure they weren't present for the vote. More likely it was a matter of not caring too much of they did die but it wasn't the explicit intention. Of course whether others died didn't matter to those who planned it. When the overly rich and far too powerful do a thing, especially a big thing, it is usually for more than one reason. Remember though that the shareholders who were going to vote against the Rothschild plans, weren't necessarily going to vote against because they had the public interest at heart. They might have had other reasons, such as the Rothschilds gaining far more power than they themselves would have. Perhaps they wanted a better deal for themselves. I doubt we will ever know their reasons but they were unlikely to have been very conscientious about the average Jo and Joanna Blogs. My 1920 father heard it was the Olympic when he was young. Of course his parents, my grandparents, were old enough to remember it when it happened, and word got around those days even without it being in the papers, and people not having TV's, radios or the Internet. From the way my father spoke, it seemed it was quite common knowledge but of course never officially admitted to. Reportedly, a number of very rich and powerful people mysteriously cancelled their tickets shortly prior to the sailing. The word was that they had received a warning to not go on. Didn't we hear a number of ()ewich people were telephoned on the morning and told to not go to work at the Twin Towers? Probably not all ()ewich people, not the poor and 'inconsequential'.
Oceanliner designs recently covered this theory and went pretty in-depth exposing so many flaws with it. And he's not the only one, this theory has been debunked for years.
The Titanic was switched, absalutly it was but not with Olympic. I know for a fact that Titanic was switched with flying Airship Hindenberg. The Hindenberg had an "A" Deck contained small passenger cabins in the middle flanked by large public rooms: a dining room and a lounge and writing room sound familer titanic was made of metal. Hindenberg had metal on it. see my point... titanic had cotton bed sheets same as hindenberg. and here is the big one. if you look very closly at the name plates, you will notice both names have an "I" in them.
Why so many died on the Titanic..? - Well..- first of all, because of the lack of lifeboats!! (16 + 2 collapsables, instead of the 48.) which were supposed to be onboard!
The minimum required amount of lifeboats at the time was 16. Titanic had 20. Are you maybe unaware of the role lifeboats were meant to serve before the disaster? Seeing as the sinking of Titanic is what led to the modern perception of them.
Easy question 2 answer. Sorry but as a captain/engineer. Terrible navigation. Stupidity. Bow on 2 a berg/rocks is the safest action. Every Captain knows this.... Also rushing, big big mistake
Less then 2 minutes into this and I get a ad for cruise holidays, talk about a twisted joke
I was on a cruise ship and they showed a documentary on the Titanic
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my mother i kid you not on cruises she takes a type of special forces kit bag with everything init for survival! Tapped lol sorry mam, but it is true lol
Just a minor point: The distress call was received by Olympic, Frankfurt, Mount Temple, Carpathia, Masaba, Baltic, Virginian, Burma, but it wasn't received by the Californian. Her wireless operator was asleep at the time.
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Didn't need to be awake he could've probably heard them shouting!!
In the 1953 movie, apart from the frickin’ rockets, the ship’s horn kept blowing and so did the alarm for evacuation of the ship. I believe this would have been an accurate scenario of what was happening on the real Titanic. Would the Californian not have heard these in the distance, after all it was a very calm night?
3:54 The soundtrack composer of that film, "A Night to Remember", was alive for only ten more days after Robert Ballard's expedition found the Titanic's wreck. His name was William Alwyn, and he died on September 11 1985 .
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As all accidents it was several reasons it sank, no Binoculars for the lookout, speeding, fire in the boiler room, poor rivets, not enough life boats etc etc
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The binoculars … How could a ship the size of the Titanic, the biggest of all ships, not have more than one set of binoculars placed in different strategic places for use on the crow’s nest, the most important lookout spot for seeing what’s ahead, in this case the frickin’ iceberg!
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About poor rivets I hear Harland & Wolff didn't really use low-quality materials they wouldn't want to have to go to court if anything serious happened to their ships out there over sub-standard materials. H&W was reportedly very proud of its product.
0:30 One New England newspaper said "Ismay survived to tell the courts how 1,500 people under his care and on his ship perished while he escaped"
Considering so many overly rich women refused to believe the Olympic (not really the Titanic)would sink so wouldn't go on the early lifeboats, leaving them only half full, it wasn't at all cowardly for any number of men to fill the empty spaces.
In this day and age it would likely be children with one of their parents first, then every man and woman for themselves.....and why not?
What was unforgivable was that poor steerage passengers were locked in and left to die in the freezing Atlantic Sea, or drown in it.
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will you stop judging MR. ISMAY? NOBODY KNOWS NOTHING UNTIL WE LIVE IN FLESH WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE LIVING. HE TOOK A SEAT IN A BOAT AFTER THERE WERE NO MORE WOMEN OR CHILDREN NEARBY AND AFTER THE SINKING OF TITANIC, ISMAY SPENT THE REST OF HIS LIFE HELPING THE FAMILIES OF THE PEOPLE THEY LOST. IT IS EASY TO JUDGE HIM AS A COWARD, BUT IF YOU WERE ON THE TITANIC, WOULDN'T YOU TRY TO SAVE YOURSELF FROM THE HORROR OF SINKING IN AN ICY WATER AT DEAD OF NIGHT WITH NO MOON?
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21:58 It was impossible indeed Cpt Lord was told about all the eight rockets and reportedly said in court that he heard about only one rocket. I think Cpt Lord just didn't feel like giving up on his nice and toasty warm bunk.
19:57 The crew were afraid the lifeboats would buckle and break if they filled them right up. And in turn it was a fault of duty on part of Cpt Smith to allow lifeboats to leave less than full
YES the captain of the titanic is to be blamed if you have to blame captains, but the other ship captain could have helped.
this is the first time i'm hearing about the temple mount ship
SS Mount temple was so far away that they would have arrived hours after Titanic would've perished. Other ships like frankfurt, Baltic, Ypiranga and even her own sister ship Olympic were also contacted but sadly they too were too far away
No doubt the Californian could've helped Cpt Lord should've made changes like Rostron did. As Robert Ballard said one time, considering how dangerous travel can be on the North Atlantic, "I would always hope that the other mariner out there would stretch a little to save my life."
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Lord may have been correct in his navigation but full vindication? No, he still did nothing when he was told about rockets being fired
9:02 I hear from Wikipedia that as soon as the Californian saw that ship coming up from the east-southeast Cpt Lord asked Evans if he knew of any ships in the area. Evans said "Only the Titanic" So then it's not like the Californian didn't know until dawn that the Titanic was around (as is still often heard); at least Lord and Evans knew exactly what that ship was, all along
2:29 The world and that "time of wealth confidence and new beginnings" were to be stirred to their foundations
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0:58 That Californian could've really come to the rescue too. Just like Rostron Capt Lord could've made changes and accommodations for the survivors. It would've earned him and his crew big-time recognition, just like the Carpathia. Also, things would've been faster with two rescue ships at the scene
Some things to consider... it would have been fairly dangerous for another ship to navigate safely in the dead of night in an icefield. Even if they got to the ship before it sank, it would have been very hard to transport that many people from one ship to another, either by lifeboats or picking them out of the cold sea before they perished. I don't think there was enough time, even if the ship was beside it when it hit the berg, to get everyone to safety in time. At least some lives would have been lost, possibly less than the number who did die, but I doubt everyone on board could have been saved. It just would have been too difficult to orchestrate a full evacuation, particularly after it was obvious the ship was sinking and panic set in. The sad truth is, even if a ship could have attempted to help in time, it was really Captain Smith's fault the ship sank and so many lives were lost.
@@graphiquejack Well there seems to be different schools of thought about this whole Californian affair The Carpathia made it through the icefield still at night with a vastly increased number of lookouts and successfully rescued as many as she could. And the Californian was way closer (three times closer if we believe Cpt Lord when he said 19mi; Robert Ballard determined she was only 10 mi away - at the most)
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My Late Dad told me there were other ships in the vicinity, but I had heard only of the Californian. It is intersting to know the Mount Temple was nearer but rfused to help Titanic.
Maybe The Mount Temple didn't refused but didn't came to Titanic's aid, due to the icefields ahead.
Californian was about 15 miles away from Titanic, Mount Temple was more than 60 away and actively tried to reach her last position.
@@Janillo2782 Mount Temple was not nearer. The nonsensical that she could be identified because of her four tall masts is not credible. Simply look up photo. of Mount Tempt & Californian. The two ships are very similar, and both have four tall masts.
But of course the 'documentary' chose not to mention that, of course.
@@Tozzpot500 According to Robert Ballard the Californian was only 10mi away at the very most A small newspaper in Clinton Massachusetts at the time, the Clinton Daily Item, printed a shocking story claiming that the Californian refused to aid the Titanic. The source was her carpenter, James McGregor, who added that the ship was close enough to see the Titanic's lights and distress rockets. The first serious charges against Cpt Lord and his officers had thus been raised.
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I like the old movie footage at 27:07 when people who have managed to get into a lifeboat decide to jump into the sea anyway.
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And to think that it took less than 10s for that iceberg to doom the ship....
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Whatever you do, do not watch Mysteries of the Grave: Titanic, that has got to be the worst Titanic ‘documentary’ ever. If you want to watch, don’t take what it presents as fact
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8:08 It was an "extraordinary night" not only for Lord but I guess also for Lightoller. I still can't believe the answer Lightoller gave to question 14197 at the British inquiry
Can you suggest at all how it can have come about that this iceberg should not have been seen at a greater distance?
- It is very difficult indeed to come to any conclusion. Of course, we know now the extraordinary combination of circumstances that existed at that time which you would not meet again once in 100 years; that they should all have existed just on that particular night shows, of course, that everything was against us.
That's not a ship's officer, that's a teen. He was the 2nd officer so we're talking someone with vast experience on the North Atlantic. What an example to set to the junior officers. The court wasn't impressed either and the message seemed to be, as Walter Lord put it so well, that the accident was of the one-in-a-million variety. Friend of mine said to me one time that the accident was of the "preventable variety."
I completely believe it was that it was swapped for the Titanic because the Olympic was damaged and there was no claim on insurance for it. Reportedly, a few men worked over the weekend to change the portholes and put on a nameplate over the word "Olympic". Indeed, at that time the name of the ship was always painted directly on to the sides. There might still be a video which was made of the wreck of the so called Titanic with the nameplate broken with one half fallen away and showing some of the name Olympic beneath.
Look up the maritime accidents of the Captain. Why would they have put him in charge of the true Titanic? An alcoholic who had already damaged the Olympic and more. It seems it was his fault the Olympic and the ship it crashed into was previously damaged to the point of disrepair to meet sea worthy standards of the time.
I read that a lot of the workers on board disembarked before it finally sailed for the US. They realised it was the Olympic. A call went out for replacement workers and the company lied they were striking for greedily wanting more pay. Unfortunately, many of those who took the jobs were foreign and didn't understand English enough when the original workers tried to warn them, and those who did understand English were told it was a lie to stop them taking the jobs.
As for the deaths of those who were going to vote against the Federal Reserve, it was probably not intended they would actually die. Remember there was another ship close enough to reach them in time, but its Captain ignored the distress call because they were working for rival companies. The excuse was that the Captain of the nearby ship thought it was a ruse to divert them and ensure the "Titanic" reached the US first.
Also there were enough lifeboats for the first class passengers, especially as the steerage passengers had been locked below!
Many of the early boats were barely half full. It was pig headedness not to allow men or steerage passengers on the early boats with so much room to spare.
Reportedly, a lot of the first class passengers wouldn't believe the "unsinkable" so called Titanic could sink until the situation was obvious, and that was why they wouldn't get in the boats at first.
In addition, I read that it wasn't intended it would hit an iceberg. There was something planned to be done quite further along and a unexpected ship was seen simply not moving. Waiting to pick up at least first class passengers?
Some accounts of survivors have said about hearing the "Titanic" hitting the iceberg. Others said they didn't hear it and didn't think it actually did hit it. Who knows what really happened?
The bulk heads didn't go to the top as they are supposed to, so when not only one or two compartments were flooded with the water spilling over the top of the bulkheads, five of them became flooded. Probably cost cutting to not using so much metal to ensure water wouldn't spill over the top of one bulkhead to another. Not planned nor foreseen, as it was probably the same on a lot of the ships at the time.
That the shareholders would die was probably not the intention. The delay would have been enough to ensure they weren't present for the vote. More likely it was a matter of not caring too much of they did die but it wasn't the explicit intention. Of course whether others died didn't matter to those who planned it.
When the overly rich and far too powerful do a thing, especially a big thing, it is usually for more than one reason.
Remember though that the shareholders who were going to vote against the Rothschild plans, weren't necessarily going to vote against because they had the public interest at heart. They might have had other reasons, such as the Rothschilds gaining far more power than they themselves would have. Perhaps they wanted a better deal for themselves. I doubt we will ever know their reasons but they were unlikely to have been very conscientious about the average Jo and Joanna Blogs.
My 1920 father heard it was the Olympic when he was young. Of course his parents, my grandparents, were old enough to remember it when it happened, and word got around those days even without it being in the papers, and people not having TV's, radios or the Internet. From the way my father spoke, it seemed it was quite common knowledge but of course never officially admitted to.
Reportedly, a number of very rich and powerful people mysteriously cancelled their tickets shortly prior to the sailing. The word was that they had received a warning to not go on.
Didn't we hear a number of ()ewich people were telephoned on the morning and told to not go to work at the Twin Towers? Probably not all ()ewich people, not the poor and 'inconsequential'.
Btw, it was Captain John Smith.
@@angr3819Ffs,it’s been disproven time and time again,Titanic had hull number 401 stamped all over her,this was seen when she was found,dear me….
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Pk les documentaire intéressant ne sont pas traduit en Français et sont tjrs en VO?
41:40 Lord Mersey was tough during the inquiry proper but his report according to quite a few was very restrained. "It was colorless timid and cautious" they complained and they added "We had expected more backbone in Lord Mersey"
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Here's why the Titanic's story will just never die: (1) she was the world's biggest movable man-made object of her day, (2) she excelled in luxury, (3) she was on her maiden voyage (of all voyages), (4) there were many celebrities of the day on board, (5) there was already a lot of talk about all her features before she was ever launched (including the whole "unsinkability" talk), and (6) she was the world's newest ocean liner of her time . It seems the Titanic will always be in our minds despite herself; unlike the ship itself, the story remains unsinkable
Not to mention the slow even flooding rather than most ships that flood quickly and capsize, and sitting on the sea floor upright. It all adds up to the magic and mystery of the titanic
@@Rko11148 yeah 2 hour 40 minutes to sink and still such high loss of life. gives people time to experience it rather than loseing huge chunks of the night because it sank in half an hour. it lets people gradulary go through there emotions and watch other people. it really sank in a very strange way that most ships dont. i saw it mentioned on a documentry once that the trimmers kept moveing the coal around during the sinking to make sure she sank the way she did. How true that is i have no idea but its intresting to think. ive never read it anywhere or heard it since so i doubt its true.
2:48 And that's exactly why the Titanic never got as much publicity as the Olympic; by the time she sailed it was all old news
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31:00 And with that only 28 people were saved one hour after she hit
6:07 1st Officer Murdoch, along with Cpt Smith and Thomas Andrews, may in the end have actually chosen to go down with the ship rather than potentially get faced with hefty, unpleasant grilling at court (and probably jail time too, on top of that). It would've been either that or at least they were afraid of becoming outcasts. The reasons are very cogent: Murdoch issued the very orders that failed to save the ship; Cpt Smith and Thomas Andrews knew exactly that the Titanic had far from enough lifeboats.
Word my 1920 born father heard was that alcoholic Smith had gone to bed in a drunken stupor.
My father's parents were old enough to remember the information that wouldn't have been put in the newspapers, and would never be officially said or written.
@@angr3819 Captain Smith was teetotal.
@@Dizzy19. That's what I hear eh
They didn’t manage to launch all the boats they had in the time available.
@@rogerwallace5473 They did actually though barely; Collapsible D was the last one at 2:05am (The Titanic went down 15 minutes later, at 2:20)
To bad Cpt. Lord never got to vindicated during his life.
Well he was told about the rockets and he was much closer than the Carpathia yet he didn't do anything
He went against int'l maritime law by failing to aid a ship in distress. As Robert Ballard remarked with a chuckle "Here is a man who got marked - marked for what had happened. I feel sorry for anyone who gets marked - for whatever happens." That's the thing; this is where you do it, this is where you pay for it .
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A quite interesting story I've heard about Ismay is that around the time "A Night to Remember" was published in November 1955 Walter Lord got a letter from England about the "remarkable finish" at the 1913 Derby in Epsom Downs. Craganour, the favourite, crossed the line first and was escorted to the winners' circle. Then, without a protest from anyone, it was disqualified and the race was awarded to second-place Aboyeur. Craganour, Lord's correspondent said, was owned by Bruce Ismay, and I guess the inference is clear: the establishment would never let an Ismay-owned horse win the hallowed Derby. Walter Lord then went to check the story. Everything turned out to be accurate except for one important detail. Joseph Bruce Ismay didn't own Craganour. His younger brother, Charles Bower Ismay, did. Still, Craganour remained disqualified. The reason? Craganour's original jockey had been replaced by an American one, Johnny Reiff. I don't know why that was but the move was immensely unpopular, and the discussions the judges are (apparently) supposed to conduct at the end of the race before announcing the winner presented them with the golden opportunity to discredit Reiff. Walter Lord, though, said he still got letters afterwards still linking Bruce (not Bower) Ismay and Craganour together
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32:07 There you are Ismay, there's your dream gone. This is where you do it, this is where you pay for it .
When the Titanic sent her distress call the Olympic was about 505 miles away, the Mount Temple was roughly 60 miles away, the Burma, 55 miles, the Virginia, 170mi N, and the Frankfurt was between 120 and 150 nautical miles away. And the Carpathia herself was a whole 58 miles from the scene. This shows that there weren't "always other ships that close by on the busy North Atlantic run" to help if anything happened, as was often stated. Well in the Titanic's case there was the Californian but then Cpt Lord didn't bother coming .
But there was a ship close by, SS Californian.
@@dovetonsturdee7033 I know I mentioned that above
33:31 And once he heard the news Cpt Haddock of the Olympic ordered all music stopped on his ship out of respect for the victims
12:04 Rather, the impact brought Cpt Smith back to the bridge; only ~2.5hrs earlier he had a talk about the approaching ice with Lightoller who was then still on duty on the bridge
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41:01 When he was called to testify Cpt Lord thought he would just need to explain why his ship was stopped for the night while the Titanic sped through the ice. "It will take me about 15min to do this", he told reporters in Boston. Was he ever wrong
He was also asked why he ignored the concerns of his officers, who had reported a large liner firing flares, to him. Were his answers credible?
@@dovetonsturdee7033 Of course not :D
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2 hours 40 to sink. Gangway door starboard side left open and port holes open from onlookers port side plus travel ten mins after hitting.
The Olymp.., sorry, the Titanic shall never be forgotten. As well as Captain Stanley "Patsy" Lord.
Captain Smith who had caused various crashes at sea, including the Olympic, which led to it being swapped for the insurance job.
I bet both of you believe that the earth is flat
Cpt Lord was the cautious captain of a ship with an uninspired watch
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In the film there was a pressure on captain to go faster. İ don t think that captain said to them "it's deadly risky", if it were he never ever leave the ship steering wheel.
There is no evidence, in reality, that the Captain was subjected to any such pressure. Indeed, five of Titanic's boilers were never connected.
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21:39 That may be what he said but he himself mistook it for a different ship .
Lack of lifeboats+really really cold water= popsicles
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Jack Phillips celebrated his birthday April 11th on the Titanic
Is that the animations from titanic honor and glory?
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Conspiracy theories everywhere.
47:42 Cpt Smith along with Thomas Andrews and 1st Officer Murdoch, may in the end have actually chosen to go down with the ship rather than potentially get faced with hefty, unpleasant grilling at court (and probably jail time too, on top of that). It would've been either that or at least they were afraid of becoming outcasts. The reasons are very cogent: Cpt Smith and Thomas Andrews knew exactly that the Titanic had far from enough lifeboats; Murdoch issued the very orders that failed to save the ship .
It's a little more complicated than that I'm afraid.
@@jadethornton7975 "Highlighted reply" here too; I know a few others told me that too (and I am certainly not trying to be simplistic) but still it is possible that the three of them entertained those thoughts .
@@fmyoung Again! Which of them had done anything wrong? Or, indeed, anything for which they might even be reprimanded?
@@dovetonsturdee7033 "Highlighted reply" here too Yup. "Again!"
@@fmyoung Don't you know the purpose of inverted commas? I sympathise with your lack of basic education.
The ship was doomed from the beginning
Video in total : *water*
i always thought that the mistery ship was not the Californian i feel so much pain for captain lord i think he die that night too, i know what happend was very sad and no one can say for sure what really happend that night because we was not there but so many things played a part of the titanic sinking to blame one person is so wrong, i believe even if they had more life boats i don;t think they would of had time to lower them away the best thing they could of done was to make sure all the seat in the lifeboats were filled even if it meant putting men in to the boats
It was Captain John Smith.
@@angr3819 what was, i hope you are not blaming him
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33:12 Isn't it actually a fault of duty of a captain to allow lifeboats to leave a sinking ship less than full?
Irony: Lightoller, who enforced the, "Women and Children Only", saved himself by getting into a lifeboat.
Ismay, sensible enough to get into a boat was savagely condemned.
4:02 Isn't that actually the Lusitania
yeah who ever gathered the stock footage did a really poor job.
most shots are from RMS Olympic in the 1920s lol
@@richardhellawell4596 Because the Titanic didn't at all last long enough
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If ismay thought that lifeboats weren’t important then why hop into one when his ship was going down
😂 hes the 1st to blame on my opinion
@@siphoernest2278 Deep down they all knew they were doing something outrageously wrong failing to supply full lifeboat capacity and putting captains on such tight schedules (and who knows what else) .
@@fmyoungJesus was not killed nor Jesus was crucified
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From everything I had heard, I always thought the Californian was the nearest ship so this explanation is new to me and I don’t know what to believe anymore ??”
The Californian was the nearest ship. Her officers reported Titanic's rockets, and her lights to their captain.
12:04 "What was thaaaat"? What do you think? What else was out there
Can save you the trouble of watching...not enough life boats...there you go...
1912 must of been year 1 on the sharks calendar
It was freezing.
If your claiming that what you’ve built is unsinkable then who would come and rescue you? The boy who cried wolf?
No-one made such a claim. Except in a movie.
Ship sank in open cold water not enough lifeboats, case closed
And to think it could've been far worse if the Titanic had been fully booked ...
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to much water
12:01 And yet that berg wasn't very big; it was only about as high as the boat deck
You ever hear the saying...the tip of the iceberg.
@@richardcray2919 Regardless of how much of an iceberg is underneath the one that doomed the Titanic wasn't really that big
@@fmyoung Ninety percent of an iceberg is below the waterline.
@@richardcray2919 Yes I knew it was a lot
They could not swim for that long...
Not in that 0°C water no
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some bad combovers and hairpieces also a tradgedy
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I think captain not take right decision at right 😢.
He didn't he should've taken that elementary precaution which is to slow down
If I was in a lifeboat I'd have made sure to steer towards the stationary ship.....if it wouldn't come to us we'd have to go to them. Then at least they could have sent the alarm up and got that ship to go and help the Titanic's passengers.
Very possibly they couldn't see the other ship. It was reportedly near but not within sight.
Lifeboat #8 did but once everyone in it saw those other rockets going up on the south it stopped going towards that will-o'-the-wisp to the north and swung around to head for that "more promising beacon of hope" (Walter Lord).
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4:21 She may've been performing well but apparently not quite to Cpt Smith's satisfaction. On her way to Cherbourg and Cobh (Queenstown at the time) Cpt Smith ordered a few lazy S turns to test the ship around (adjust the compasses among other things). You don't do that during a voyage with people on board Capt you do that during sea trials; that's what sea trials are for. That's not the approach of an experienced sea captain that's the approach of a teen. So once again Capt Smith how much did you really know about the vessel under your feet??
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Трагична.съдба.
Oh - Bulgarian :-D.
Or, is this Bulgarian?
7:42 Damage like that happened all the time during the steamship era and it all culminated with the Titanic .
You mean the OLYMPIC.
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The Olympic was 500 miles away from the sinking Titanic...
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We get told many things/ blame re the Loss of Life, BUT it was all the fault of Titanic speeding thro Ice. FACT.
Not enough life boat's.
Would it have made a difference? They didn’t manage to launch all the ones they had in the time available.
@@rogerwallace5473 The last lifeboat, Collapsible D, left the Titanic at 2:05am, 15min before the ship eventually slid beneath the waves so the crew actually managed, if barely, to lower all the lifeboats
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Background music should stay in the background. Music often drowned out the dialogue.
One New England paper talked about "manslaughter" at sea "on an unprecedented scale." Ismay sure got pilloried big-time for what happened and, like Cpt Lord, marked for it .
Oh no! not another Know-it-all theory of what happened to the Titanic. Don't waste nearly 50 minutes of your time wondering what happened, I can sum it up in a single sentence of two words as to what happened...It sank.
Like most things that go wrong. Swiss cheese theory, all the holes lined up.
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You are very disrespectful of the brave Captain and his crew. They were part of the 1,500 souls who were lost that night.
1,500 dead at one time! 😢
@@Fee212 I have great respect for those who did all they could that terrible night of the sinking of the Titanic. It annoys me when someone wants to profit from what happened by pretending to know something other than what everybody already knows about the event. There is no fresh or new evidence, it has been gone over and over for over a hundred years and some people want us to believe they know something that has never been mentioned before. Just so they can make money from a TH-cam video. Let these people rest in peace now. We all know what happened.
I literally just found out that I had an ancester on the titanic, a fireman/stoker named Thomas Russell Kerr he died.
How literally…
You should really tell the Titanic Historical Society about that .
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Tóó many lies.
who ever gathered the stock footage did a really poor job.
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Senan,where did you pick up the habit of forgetting your R’s,barely an Irishman does that,so hard to listen to,dear me…
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Perhaps from the same place he learned to invent falsehoods?
I completely believe it was that it was swapped for the Titanic because the Olympic was damaged and there was no claim on insurance for it. Reportedly, a few men worked over the weekend to change the portholes and put on a nameplate over the word "Olympic". Indeed, at that time the name of the ship was always painted directly on to the sides. There might still be a video which was made of the wreck of the so called Titanic with the nameplate broken with one half fallen away and showing some of the name Olympic beneath.
Look up the maritime accidents of the Captain. Why would they have put him in charge of the true Titanic? An alcoholic who had already damaged the Olympic and more. It seems it was his fault the Olympic and the ship it crashed into was previously damaged to the point of disrepair to meet sea worthy standards of the time.
I read that a lot of the workers on board disembarked before it finally sailed for the US. They realised it was the Olympic. A call went out for replacement workers and the company lied they were striking for greedily wanting more pay. Unfortunately, many of those who took the jobs were foreign and didn't understand English enough when the original workers tried to warn them, and those who did understand English were told it was a lie to stop them taking the jobs.
As for the deaths of those who were going to vote against the Federal Reserve, it was probably not intended they would actually die. Remember there was another ship close enough to reach them in time, but its Captain ignored the distress call because they were working for rival companies. The excuse was that the Captain of the nearby ship thought it was a ruse to divert them and ensure the "Titanic" reached the US first.
Also there were enough lifeboats for the first class passengers, especially as the steerage passengers had been locked below!
Many of the early boats were barely half full. It was pig headedness not to allow men or steerage passengers on the early boats with so much room to spare.
Reportedly, a lot of the first class passengers wouldn't believe the "unsinkable" so called Titanic could sink until the situation was obvious, and that was why they wouldn't get in the boats at first.
In addition, I read that it wasn't intended it would hit an iceberg. There was something planned to be done quite further along and a unexpected ship was seen simply not moving. Waiting to pick up at least first class passengers?
Some accounts of survivors have said about hearing the "Titanic" hitting the iceberg. Others said they didn't hear it and didn't think it actually did hit it. Who knows what really happened?
The bulk heads didn't go to the top as they are supposed to, so when not only one or two compartments were flooded with the water spilling over the top of the bulkheads, five of them became flooded. Probably cost cutting to not using so much metal to ensure water wouldn't spill over the top of one bulkhead to another. Not planned nor foreseen, as it was probably the same on a lot of the ships at the time.
That the shareholders would die was probably not the intention. The delay would have been enough to ensure they weren't present for the vote. More likely it was a matter of not caring too much of they did die but it wasn't the explicit intention. Of course whether others died didn't matter to those who planned it.
When the overly rich and far too powerful do a thing, especially a big thing, it is usually for more than one reason.
Remember though that the shareholders who were going to vote against the Rothschild plans, weren't necessarily going to vote against because they had the public interest at heart. They might have had other reasons, such as the Rothschilds gaining far more power than they themselves would have. Perhaps they wanted a better deal for themselves. I doubt we will ever know their reasons but they were unlikely to have been very conscientious about the average Jo and Joanna Blogs.
My 1920 father heard it was the Olympic when he was young. Of course his parents, my grandparents, were old enough to remember it when it happened, and word got around those days even without it being in the papers, and people not having TV's, radios or the Internet. From the way my father spoke, it seemed it was quite common knowledge but of course never officially admitted to.
Reportedly, a number of very rich and powerful people mysteriously cancelled their tickets shortly prior to the sailing. The word was that they had received a warning to not go on.
Didn't we hear a number of ()ewich people were telephoned on the morning and told to not go to work at the Twin Towers? Probably not all ()ewich people, not the poor and 'inconsequential'.
None of what you said is remotely true, the switch never happened it was more than debunked for more than 2 decades
Oceanliner designs recently covered this theory and went pretty in-depth exposing so many flaws with it. And he's not the only one, this theory has been debunked for years.
False .
All wrong there isn't a name plate it's actually engraved in to the steel
The Titanic was switched, absalutly it was but not with Olympic. I know for a fact that Titanic was switched with flying Airship Hindenberg. The Hindenberg had an "A" Deck contained small passenger cabins in the middle flanked by large public rooms: a dining room and a lounge and writing room
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titanic was made of metal. Hindenberg had metal on it.
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titanic had cotton bed sheets same as hindenberg. and here is the big one. if you look very closly at the name plates, you will notice both names have an "I" in them.
No binoculars, too fast, bad manoeuvre and lack of lifeboats, these people were doomed.
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Why so many died on the Titanic..?
- Well..- first of all, because of the lack of lifeboats!! (16 + 2 collapsables, instead of the 48.) which were supposed to be onboard!
The minimum required amount of lifeboats at the time was 16. Titanic had 20. Are you maybe unaware of the role lifeboats were meant to serve before the disaster? Seeing as the sinking of Titanic is what led to the modern perception of them.
Easy question 2 answer. Sorry but as a captain/engineer.
Terrible navigation. Stupidity. Bow on 2 a berg/rocks is the safest action. Every Captain knows this.... Also rushing, big big mistake
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@@SofiaHack ? Is Allah an ice berg?