INTJ Careers: What You Need To Know When Changing Careers
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0:00 INTJ Careers: 3 key career considerations
1:16 The career change mistake most people make
2:31 INTJs should AVOID these environments
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5:14 Make sure you do THIS
5:34 My favorite INTJ strength
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INTJs: Did I get this right? What would you add as an important consideration for INTJ careers?
Caroline I wanna ask you what you do apart from TH-cam ? Are you a counsellor or a networker ( I really have not seen your too many videos but your confidence is like a network marketer )
@@anshmalhotra2141 Hey, Ansh - I’m a career and leadership coach. I help people advance or change careers.
@@CarolineAdamsCoaching i need help. I am unable to go up further in my career bcz i have Dyslexia, can you help
I've been considering going forward either as manager or project leader. My last boss was very coaching and she said that she thought I might feel my creativity hampered in a project leader position. With this video I better understand what she was hinting at. I'm a around 51% introvert so I'm a relatively extrovert INTJ. I think coaching actually might be really interesting to me.
I also love getting my hands on a chaotic situation and sort it out with method. ^^
@@theoriginalinukage5049 Keep us updated as you get clarity!
As an INTJ, my first job after college caused me to investigate a key question: "Can a person die of boredom?"
😂 @boz 360! Glad you're still here. What was your first job after college???
I had a job where they had established systems and techniques for performing the engineering work that I did. From what I've seen many folks on their 20's have that type of rote work. Later, I worked for an organization that knew they had to reinvent and automate their processes. I made sure that I was in the middle of that effort. That was a good time!!@@CarolineAdamsCoaching
@@boz3605 nice pivot! Smart. 👏👏
@@boz3605 Curious to know, what was the job title that you are referring to for the engineering?
What is it that you do now (as far as job title) within elevating your position/job function?
I worked in a commercial banking and the nonsensical rules drove me crazy....
Most people drains me. I want people around me that motivates me with their interesting ideas that we could explore together.
That's the key @fredrik!
Preferred job characteristics: 1) autonomy 2) be given a problem and then be allowed to determine how to carry out work 3) able to hire own staff (have recently learned I have an unconscious bias towards hiring other INTJs) 4) an environment where the primary focus is on tasks and not having to deal with any people that are highly irrational and emotional 5) have a small team, or have a few direct reports that manage all of the people problems 6) if required, partner with a complementary colleague to do the typical leadership things while leaving you to focus on designing and implementing strategies (ENTJs are useful in this regard). 7) find the trusted colleague who can provide insider tips on what is going on within the organisation (ENFJs freely provide this service to all) 8) pretty much stick with the other INTJs, ENTJs, INTPs, ENTPs, INFJs and ENFJs and distance oneself from those irrational sensors who are the most likely to take offence at a factual statement you make or report you to HR for bullying because you fail to see any value in endlessly talking about feelings and other trivial matters.
Our best career must be finding a way to create and automate our passive income sources, invest in the stock market and do something useful with our time, like understanding everything.
Agree with all of this, @Mohamed. I would add that, for many people, career is also about purpose, fulfillment, and impact. Money doesn't get me out of bed in the morning; helping people and creating things does.
Trading & investing was the best career choice ever. (As a INTJ)
If one can’t find a “good fitting job”, CREATE an interesting job. There’s lots of stuff that needs doing, look around.
Love this, @James Barrett
@@CarolineAdamsCoaching 👍😎🖖.
@James Barrett Well said.
I need guarantee that it’ll work out first. I’ve already wasted half my life trying that.
While inventive, I’m a terrible entrepreneur.
So happy to see another INTJ female like me. I love being alone (I don’t get lonely) but yet am not antisocial! My favorite time to work when I was working was 3-11:30pm. Absolutely need my mornings to myself. Hubby (who worships the ground I walk on …too much I think) works 2 jobs as well as makes dinner (he loves to cook) so it works out for me lol. We do a lot of FaceTime and I can go with him on the night job anytime if I wanted to (he drives those 53 foot rigs) but not on day job as it is someone else’s truck. Yes I love strategies and getting right to the heart of the matter and solving the problem. I think I would’ve made a good detective 👍🏼
I made a big mistake when I worked my butt off to pursue a career in academia. I was ahead of my time when I was just a school kid and that earned me the nickname Professor and I kinda liked the idea and research is definitely something of interest to INTJs... However, what I failed to realize was that things change quickly the higher up you get. It may sound arrogant, but everything up until getting a Ph.D. position is easy. The rest is where I hit a massive roadblock. To my big dismay, I had to realize that it was not really about having great ideas or being good at research, but all about networking, securing funds, and lying day in and day out. The thing that confused me the most was what was socially acceptable in these circles and what not. Letting people work in an overcrowded lab with non-functional fume hoods (nearly killed two of my colleagues!) and electric wiring that is fixed with ductape, having a fridge blocking emergency exits, pressuring employees into skipping vacations, and working 2x as much as in the contract (and more than legally allowed), producing one publication after the other that can never be reproduced (to say it politely) and lying about progress in order to keep funds flowing and so much more seems to be all fair game, but my suggestion of saving the years budget by buying vouchers shocked them as if I proposed committing a war crime. It was far from the only example. endangering two dozen employees every day is perfectly fine, but discarding a few milliliters of acetone in the sink is not, etc. Also, it was put much more emphasis on making good-looking reports than on actually working in a scientific fashion. I got actually yelled at for pointing out flaws with my own research when I was asking for more time to make sure that I get dependable data.
I then hoped to find better conditions in the industry and to some degree it is, but getting in is much harder, especially as they operate very differently and thus require different experiences Plus, there's a huge emphasis on making a smashing first impression, and on self-marketing... (really not my forte) I've struggled for along time and got trained in these things to better my chances, but putting on an act and talking in a way that is the very opposite of my style makes me feel sick and disgusted.
I entered the wrong field also. The manufacturing sector (maintenance, automation) is filled with bureaucracy and politics instead of “let’s figure out what works the best and work towards it”. Hard work is not rewarded. Now I’m in a situation where I’m scared of wasting my time on another career that will end up the same way.
How’s it going now? I’m in a similar position at the moment.
@@kim_316 I've been unemployed for 2 years now, plus one year before I found my job which lasted less than a year. The C-virus and the world economic situation certainly didn't help. TBH, my physical and mental health are getting worse. I feel like a caged tiger.
I need to be able to do something useful again and have some degree of freedom. I have no idea how people can be professionally unemployed and do absolutely nothing of value...
I figured that out when I was an under-graduate. It made me sick of thinking a career like that. What a waste of time.
Absolutley! I hate blind followers and emotional people as I question everything with no limits! Love autonomy and independence to the core !!
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100% on point. Love that you are also an INTJ!
As an INTJ, I think this video is spot on.
Spot on! I am glad you broke down the tedious stereotypes about INTJ's being antisocial loners. It took me a while to understand this as well, but your perspectives and insight seems to align perfectly with what I have concluded myself. Thank you for this validation and analysis!
@Säkkijärven Polkka Such a great point. So crazy how persistent that stereotype is. If one more person tells me, “You don’t seem like an introvert…”😂🙄
So what happens when as female intj’s we know this about ourselves but people that don’t instantly assume I’m uppity or stuck up when I don’t want to be bothered with social chitchat after discovering that you’re not part of my “tribe”? It’s like at jobs people push themselves off on you some types, crossing boundaries to appear friendly but I just met you a week ago so why do you need to know my life story and vice versa. Friendships are a natural thing not forced. If we jive we do but otherwise I’m good with hi and bye and then keep it moving!!
Your career advice is spot on. I am enjoying these splendid perks at my current position. I fought so hard during the past 6 months to slowly rebuild things and thus gain trust from management. They allow me the autonomy to implement new changes as I see fit. I get to hire only the right people and now I have my dream team working together to realize radical new ideas. INTJ can really bridge the gap between vision and implementation. And there is this weird calm confidence that will push my team forward through any obstacle.
OMG, I LOVE this @ReviewYup! Such a great example of OWNING your gifts AND cultivating the right ENVIRONMENT that lets you run with them. 🌈👏 Kudos to you for building that relationship with management.
Thanks for the video!
this video brought me so much clarity. I recently learned my personality type and your coaching just confirmed so many things about myself. I've felt lost, alienated, and disparity since resigning from a toxic career of 15 years. I thought I didn't have respect for authority and that I was a difficult co-worker but, really looking back, it was a horrible fit, even with the toxicity. what you're doing is amazing and I am now subscribed.
Yay, @corean! Cheers to you for resigning from a toxic career. It's hard, but this tells me on some level you TRUST YOURSELF to know better and the toxicity is THEIR issue, not yours. (This is also why so many INTJs DO have problems with authority. We see how much better, efficient, and fair things could be vs how the "authorities" are operating). Keep being you and lean into your beautiful INTJ self!
This was really best video to define INTJs 💯
Omg THANK YOU @Aryan 🌈
Appreciate your practical insights as a corporate intj and agree 100% on ensuring a shared value, buy in and space for ideas.
very useful, thanks...and somewhat relaxing to see that somebody else is thinking the way you are, thanks again)
@roland vachovsky The way YOU think is a gift. Remember that!
Love this! So on point with many of your observations. I worked as an administrative assistant for many years, and out of all of the tasks that I've had to do, I still remember this one manager asking me to relabel and sort out some cabinets. To this day it's still bothers me because out of all the things that I could have been doing to help the company, the one thing that she focused on needing help with was to reorganize a cabinets?
Keep in mind that these cabinets were not extremely messy where you couldn't find things and we are talking about little nik naks in them like tape, paperclips and staples in them. Did not urgently need any attention to them.
So they had one of THE BEST "thinkers and problem solution architects" in the World at your company and you want me to restructure 3 or so little file cabinets that are half filled with little nik nacks in them? Really? #WASTEOFTIME 😂🤣😂
@Tourino Jacks This stressed me out just reading it. 😂 Says more about that manager than you.
Great work Caroline, I very much resonated with a lot of your statements regarding INTJ's 🙂👌
Glad it resonated, Jacob!
Just wanted to say you have a great smile. Also your Information is perfect for what I am trying to figure out when it come to my personality type. I found that the older I get, the quicker my batteries are drained in my current position because I have to constantly talk to people, engage with them and troubleshoot their issues. I would like to get into a role where I am a little more creative and have opportunities to present ideas that will make things run more efficiently. However, since I am really good at this sort of support role, each job I go to tends to bend their own job description to slot me back into a support role (this time more of a lead). I am still left bored, drained and craving for what seems to be very close but yet so far in this job space.
Thanks!
Thank you, @Master Jones! So glad this resonated. Yes, we are Introverts living in an Extroverted world so it's really important to be intentional about where we invest our energy. This is great awareness about something you're really good at (support) that you don't enjoy. Now that you know, I encourage you to set that boundary for yourself and others. Keep voicing what you DO want! I'll bet you're closer than you may think!
As an INTJ, everything mentioned here are so well thought of and true. On all accounts most sincere and deep thinking! Every words said are so factual and compact. Nice to read all of the other INTJ's comments down below too. It's the first time that I've ever spent time and effort reading all of the comments from everybody, and enjoying it too.
Basically I've always look forward to the unconventional & unbiased reports and news that reveals the inner workings, patterns and actual facts that is happening globally today - whether it be in politics, social events, religion, economy and the history of human behaviours and motives. Nothing in this world happens by chance, there is always a pattern of human nature and inner strategies behind it.
A good career for INTJ is truly what you have mentioned in your video. 100% agreed with all honesty and sincerity!😃😃😃
If only we have more INTJ-types of friends, colleagues, politicians, teachers and communities....wouldn't it be so much more fun and a better world to be in? 😊😊😊
Ooh, thanks for sharing how your INTJness shows up for you. I also love reading the comments. INTJs are so cool.
Caroline, I really enjoyed this video, and can add from my personal experience that who you work with and who you report to or work for, is extremely important. If you are expected to lead and become extroverted on half-baked efforts or to supply upfront high levels of details as a condition to advance on ideas, you will likely fail.
Ahhhh, GREAT point, @Ron Nezer. Yes, part of being able to be our INTJ best is to have people around us that support us at our best!
The problem with conference calls is not so much the energy. I mean, it is draining to think of another conference call. The problem lies with the fact that lots of conference calls are so inefficient, so wasteful, so dumb. So much of them could be handled by email, by quick questions by email, and then clarified through conference calls. So many conference calls are just so vaguely titled, and the topics so poorly explained, and then when you get to the conference call, people want to talk about things that are not important. And then you have to spend time and energy cutting to the chase. Ughhh.
@Jeff omg SO TRUE. Great point. I wouldn’t accept the invite until the objectives and *my role in the decision-making* were 💯 clear.
really insightful, thanks
Thank you for watching, @maciej
Female INTJ here. I’m a speech-language pathologist. I enjoy the process of diagnosis and treatment of communication disorders. Allows me to be an investigator, researcher and problem solver all in one.
@angieshel love this! Makes total sense for intjs. Speech-language pathology rocks and is so important.
@angieshel Here is an INTJ-Egyptian male who had remarkable stuttering till the age of 20 and now polyglot of 5 languages !
@@El_Matador724 that’s amazing! I wish I had a knack for learning languages 😂
Very insightful, thank you
Glad it helped, @Ruth!
Thank you for this video... as INTJ I spent the last couple of years into getting my European Citizenship... and I was kinda on standby position and now Im starting to think again into my professional career, paths that I could choose your not.
Watching your video, gave me a lot of freedom on my way of thinking, because I was reading that INJT are introverts and stuff and Im not that introvert and because of that I've always created a missconception of myself. But now, I now that we (INTJ) doens"t necessary need to be the way the books describe us, felt so good.
Im turned 27 this year, and Im thinking on going into IT are, code programming some stuff like that. I always loved to play games, watch streams e etc.
Thank you again!
@Pedro Yes! You know better about yourself than any book. And INTJs especially are great at blazing a unique trail. IT/programming are great options. Keep us updated as you explore. And congrats on your EU citizenship!
"Hell is other people" - Jean-Paul Sartre
Love your video only thing I am not a fan of are the breaks and blue pop ups. But other than that keep it up :) your doing great Caroline.
Investing in stocks or trading stocks is whaI love. Freedom to make your own decisions based on strategy and looking into what you want
Thanks,cat, i really apreciat it,
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BRILLIANT!
I am also a INTJ-T :-) Thanks for the video!
You are so welcome!
I worked in the Oil and Gas Industry for the last 15 years of my professional life as a Project Manager. A great deal of my time was spent working with Engineers of various disciplines. I really miss their outgoing personalities.
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INTJ female here and I am miserable at my job. It’s the correct field but it’s not the correct tasks. Too many people. I’ve had a trend of this and people around me say it’s ME. I suppose I am the common denominator in this equation. It makes me call into question my abilities.
Whoa whoa whoa, @Arthur's Hat. You are NOT your circumstances. Before we make this about your abilities, what exactly are people around you saying, if you don't mind sharing? And, more importantly, what do YOU think the issue is?
@@CarolineAdamsCoaching Every job I’ve ever had, I come home frustrated, angry and wanting to quit. Close people have said maybe I am not “cut out for the workforce” because this seems to be a pattern with me. My people threshold is very thin. That being said, I can usually get along with my coworkers on a surface level and as long as the interaction is brief. I’m always an outsider (cliques are dumb) even though I get along with most everyone. I naturally have issue with authority, combine that with most mgmt being done incorrectly makes me buck rules or withdrawal. Unless I fully respect who’s in charge, which isn’t often. I’m working on finding a career that is more behind the scenes but since I am entry level (degree and certification secured), my field is harder to break into than I had anticipated.
@@CarolineAdamsCoaching I think the root is that I’m uninspired and worn down by EVERYTHING. The entire system. All of it.
Yes to this, @Arthur’s Hat. Do you hear all the energy drains? I know you said it’s the right field, but it really sounds like the wrong environments. I invite you to get clear on the elements that help you thrive (I’m hearing more autonomy, independence, and time to work on your own). Maybe a smaller team or less bureaucracy or even less concensus-driven/social culture? Also, the right fit is often as much or more about the people surrounding us, so I’d also invite you to get clear on the qualities of bosses and coworkers you respect, learn from, and go deep with SO THAT you can engage in a way that feels good. You got this.
@@CarolineAdamsCoaching Thank you so much for this! Yes, my work environment drains me of everything I have. I've never really liked working closely with others and I get along better with men and in an environment that is a little slower pace. I hate mediating. I just want to focus on a single task and be left alone. When I'm off work, I don't socialize at all because at work it's constant stimulation for 10-12 hours. I know it isn't healthy because I'll hole up for days working on tasks and projects. I'm applying for remote positions for what I'm qualified to do. It's just finding entry-level positions has become challenging. It's hard to be patient, I know this is transitory.
Yes we like people until we don’t ❤
Ooh I like this!
ooh, I like how you said this. Usually I say, "I don't like anyone," which INTJs get but makes me sound like a monster to everyone else. 😂
@@CarolineAdamsCoaching FACTUAL THO SAME but sometimes I give them the slightest benefit of the doubt 😃
This is where my dilemma begins. You see, I definitely enjoy (maybe even Love) being a "fellow" decision maker in group settings, however, I also enjoy the execution of the plans as well. I guess more so because I feel like I am an educational guru, want things to be structured for performance gains, trainer type of guy.
Finding my ultimate career title and occupation that covers all of these items is a problem for me to do.
Does this make me a bit TOO well rounded I wonder?
Thoughts anyone?
@Tourino Jacks No such thing as too well-rounded. 👏 Lots of INTJs make great “utility players” You can kind of plug us in anywhere, and we’ll bring structure, systems, and improvements.
Suggest you focus less on a crisp job title (which means little anyway and might put you in a box) and focus on telling your story (e.g., sharing with others exactly what you shared here and seeing where you might fit).
Might be worth exploring where you might fit in training org or even CAO/COO functions. Def invite you to tease out what that “educational guru” piece looks like day to day.
A year late, but I'll post anyway.
First, great video. Really enjoyed the content. I think it's quite accurate - as a whole - about INTJs.
I would add one caveat, and perhaps this is my own INTJ quirk: INTJs need a career where they are not 100% sure that they can do the work. So often, as an INTJ thinking through a hobby, activity, or work task, if I am able to determine or calculate that I can accomplish the task or activity, then it no longer holds any interest or value to me. Consequently, I have no motivation to even begin, or if I have begin, to complete, the task or activity.
We, or at least I, crave the need to NOT know how the end result will turn out into order to keep my interest.
Hey, @Alex! Thanks for the insight. This makes intuitive sense bc we need that intellectual challenge. I hear a real sense of exploration and curiosity in your comment. I will say anecdotally that I know many INTJs who need to know how the end result will turn out (I myself had to LEARN how to enjoy the journey and detach from the outcome). But all this is what makes personality types interesting. We all bring our own flavor based on our interests, experiences, and wiring. We have so much in common and yet there's so much individual variation even within those elements!
@@CarolineAdamsCoaching That's the trick, isn't it - enjoying the journey in lieu of accomplishment of outcome? As you stated in your video, we INTJs need to understand the "why". If we understand the Why, then that allows us to orientate ourselves to the objective.
Ergo, if the Why of a trip is to "enjoy the journey", then implicitly an INTJ's focus will be to take one's time driving, stopping to see the sights along the way, etc.
However, if the Why of a trip is to "see this exhibit in that museum", then we INTJs become super-focused on speeding along the trip to get to the museum and see the exhibit. No sight-seeing ... just streamlining to the objective.
That carries over to analysis of a task, activity, or assignment. If the Why is to produce an end result, and my flavor of INTJ can calculate out exactly how it will turn out, then in a vacuum the task, activity, or assignment holds no intrinsic value. And I'm done with it ... because in my head I already did the work. But if the end result is murky and unclear, then it becomes interesting to work on.
Incidentally, academically I'm a mathematician. The thing with Mathematics is that the solution is irrelevant. The process to the end result is what's important. Professionally, I'm a business analyst. I tell people I like it because the work is varied ... when really, I enjoy the fact that I get paid to think about things. Even if they aren't always that interested. ;)
In any event, thank you for the reply. And my apologies for the long response. You've gotten a sub from me. Cheers.
@@liebneraj OMG OF COURSE YOU'RE A MATHEMATICIAN!!! Love this!!!
Also, you've tapped into my frustration with proofs in geometry--getting dinged for "not taking the right steps" when I got to the answer in the way that worked for me, haha.
I love your insight, too, about how we define the Why being so important to enjoying the journey (or not).
As someone who has power-walked through the world's most beautiful cities, this resonates!
I am INTJ female. It's the only tool that helps me understand why I'm so much different from others and why am I feeling so suffocated to interact with people and work with them in my current career path. If only I'd known this many years ago, I would have chosen something else that fits my personality type.
I really did not get the INTJ stare thing, until I paid attention to you.
It resonates a lot with me as an intj who works as ice cream maker and aspire to be a wholesaler in the industry. Most of the time I can't stand with companies' policy where there's so many nonsense and hierarchy, and there's no creative people nor ideas. It resonates with me especially on the strategy part that we have big picture in the future and always review the strategy that we make to see how is the progress ongoing.
I hate standard rote works that you do 1 time is equal to 100 times. Ice cream making is actually maths and science and I like it to be calculated so precise; entrepreneurship is my thing because autonomy and independence is just so important to me to the point I want to rule myself instead of being ruled by others. But as you said we need only the right people to get along with which makes it sometimes a bit struggling in socialising with potential customers because it gets a bit drainy to start a conversation with people you don't click.
This is so cool, @chunsze ! I never thought of ice cream making as maths and science (how do you calculate “deliciousness”?) but it makes total sense. So good to see when INTJs have found the outlets that align.
I hear you on talking to people that you don’t click with. I actually write a lot about how to engage with people in a way that feels good on my blog. I had to figure it out out of necessity when I started my own biz.
What’s your favorite ice cream flavor you’re working on?
I'm an INTJ was thinking what would be suitable for the job as an intj. I am more interested in working alone and am thinking what the best jobs are for INTJs either alone or with a group
My bf is an INTJ. He needs to change his work place job description. It is sapping his energy and the capabilities are being suppressed.
@Jenna Hudson ugh, this sounds frustrating and exhausting. I fully support this change.
Out of curiosity what type of job does he have
I have been a pest control technician for over 25 years. Is it the best fit? Maybe not, but it works for me. For various reasons I had problems in High School, didn't get guidance, and I'm not college educated. But I have no desire for more institutional education. For me any job where I interact with people (ironically) but also work independently. Also something interesting that is maybe is offbeat. I feel I would have been a good psychologist, but I feel like a lot of that is BS. I also like to work with my hands and see the everyday world. A doctor? Maybe, but once again I'm not sure I am suited to the educational process that is needed to become a doctor. But I feel I could have been a doctor, lol. A consultant? I don't feel the business world is for me. So I think the INTJ can do a lot of things, and do them well. INTJs can do the job, and make the job work for them.
Well said, @chrisradano. 👏👏👏
Well stated and insightful! You write so much better than many over-educated people I've worked with over 40 years. 🎉
Great video. The music is approximately 8x as loud as the rest of the video which was startling. Great video though
Glad you enjoyed the content, if not my newbie video editing flourishes. I see my videos as examples of owning the imperfections! 😉
I typically refuse, or at least have difficulty following orders, unless I know WHY I should do something. Once I know why, if the why makes sense to me, I am onboard with the plan.
Hey, Alex - Yeah, that makes a ton of sense. I think the why "making sense" is really important to INTJs. Rules that don't make sense make my brain short circuit. 🤯
Clinical diagnoses ADHD and self diagnoses this personality type. Tbh it developed into this as I've gotten older. My career boost was finally starting my business. I'm 1yr8mos in and it's stressful at times but so was working for someone. At least now I have more say in my life as a whole. Don't think I'd ever be satisfied working for someone else again. Grateful for the opportunities but def like my own.
Love this career boost, @J. Congratulations on almost 2 years! That's a HUGE accomplishment. 👏 I believe INTJs are quite suited to entrepreneurship as we can finally do things our own dang way, haha. But seriously, we can build things, be strategic, build in plenty of time for thinking and creativity.
@@CarolineAdamsCoaching thank you. I agree that it definitely suites this personality type.
INTJ gotta be the coolest personality type.
Right??? Although *of course* INTJs would say that! 😂
The project management comment was interesting. I wish you would have elaborated whether this is or is not a good idea for INTJs
Hey @america rocks. INTJs make great PMs for all the reasons discussed. Personality traits are just one variable though. Whether project management is a good fit depends on YOUR individual interests and strengths.
I did talk about the importance of 1) being bought into the strategy of whatever project so there's a connection to the big picture purpose and impact, and 2) being at the front end of the project, where you could shape the strategy and connect it to the plan (as opposed to being just the executor of someone else's strategy, esp one you're not bought in to).
Hope this helps. Let me know if more questions.
@@CarolineAdamsCoaching Thank you so much for responding!
@@CarolineAdamsCoaching And great points indeed. Yet, This is where my dilemma begins. You see I definitely enjoy being a decision maker in group settings as you do as well, but I also enjoy the execution of the plans also. I guess more so because I feel like I am an educational guru, want things to be structured for performance gains, trainer type of guy.
Finding the ultimate career title and occupation that covers all of these items is a problem for me to do.
Does this make me a bit too well rounded I wonder?
Thoughts anyone?
INTJ here. I've been in the white-collar workforce for over 40 years. PM work overall is a great fit. Every industry or sector everywhere needs PMs! And it's a healthy professional community. Check it out!
PMP/Project Manager here. This really depends on the structure and culture of your organization or client. I think we make stellar PMs. As an INTJ, my executive functioning is off the charts. I do organizational development and integrated marketing project work. The most common PM jobs out there that pay really well are in medical/pharma/biotech, IT, construction, and engineering project management. If you already have a specialty and want to try PM work, check the environment carefully and ask the hard questions up front to set yourself up for success and avoid absolute misery.
In private companies I've worked with very sharp professionals and the work could be enjoyable and even exciting at times. A day in the life actually GAVE me energy! My last job at a public university was working for a clueless bureaucrat who stepped in the middle of everything all of the time and we couldn't get moving due to her overall incompetence and refusal to let me/us do the job (she had absolutely no credentials and was put in charge/OJT because she works for the state in CA where everyone is overworked). Within this bastion of inefficiency, the work was pointless and shameful in its wastefulness and the resulting environment was draining af. I took this last job because I was pressed to produce income but my initial analysis was spot on. Our instincts are really impressive but I had to ignore (and fight) them over the past year.
I am an Intj and yes I work for a startup lol
Just came here because I keep on jumping careers . Finished accounting degree, didn't get an accounting job, got a clerical job, and a customer service job, and became a social media manager. Now I don't know what will I do with my career. I'm really not sure if I can work as a social media mgr for a long time. 😭
Hey @capricorncat. You will figure it out! Any themes or patterns of elements you enjoyed across those careers? Anything you’d love to do but haven’t tried?
@@CarolineAdamsCoaching my interests are actually design and arts appreciation. I was thinking of getting a skill in tailoring or sewing or photography. The reason why I got to get a job as a WFH social media manager is to escape from corporate world. I used to study IT during my teens, but quit after 2 years. After that, I got jobs at retail stores, then went back to college as an accounting major. After that accounting degree. I didn't get an accounting job. So decided to work in corporate world doing clerical and customer service jobs because I was running out of time and I need salary.
@@marsblack17 So cool! We share a love for design and arts appreciation. It’s a personal goal of mine to help more people pursue creative careers. That’s a solid step to escape the corporate world and be able to work from home: you’re moving in the right direction. What’s stopping you from pursuing design/arts as a next step?
I like the idea of teaching. But I think I end up being meaner than I intend to be. It's because I'm way too nervous around people
@css there are sooo many ways to teach these days. Try it! So many things like this get easier with practice...and an understanding of how to find a way to work through the things that make you nervous.
I feel the same^^
@@lukacsorsolya4255 Awareness is the first step.
I literally just quit after 20 years as an English teacher because I’m just not warm and fluffy and that’s not the norm in school buildings so I was always perceived to be mean when I wasn’t trying to be and cold when I wasn’t. It just became too much after a while because the professions is definitely dominated by extroverts!😂lol
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Could you give examples of ways to teach outside of traditional classrooms that are also well-paid? I know “well-paid” is subjective lol, but any suggests on non-traditional teaching?
As an intj I've made a good living being a fabricator, with my level of understanding I can create almost anything. However I've decided to make a career change to criminal mastermind, it seems to be the only thing that I find challenging anymore.
@jeremy Fabricator as in metal fabricator, or something else? There are plenty of challenges left in the world that need your skills.
I appreciate the reply, to answer your question yes all levels of metal fabrication among other things. Im what most would consider a jack of all trades. What kind of challenges do you have in mind? I enjoy a good challenge. If you have any other questions I'd be more than happy to give you some insight.
@@jeremyvanallen1530 So cool! It's less about the challenges I have in mind but the challenges that are intriguing to you and what aspects about fabrication are no longer challenging/interesting to you. I'm sure there are challenges to be solved in the fabrication space, and if you want a bigger change, there are ways to apply what makes you so good at the fabrication that you can apply to other fields/projects.
Build a cold fusion reactor prototype at home. That should keep you busy 😀
Hi Caroline just come across this , what would be the best move for an INTJ who is in a very structured organization where you are often mis understood because your ancINTJ
Hi, @gabrieldolores. I’m not clear on the specific situation, but my instinct is communication, communication, communication. Whether it’s asking more questions, sharing your unique perspective, or asking for what you want and why, letting people into your thought process (and getting genuinely curious about others’) is a connection game-changer.
Took me years to decide that working for other people just doesn't work for me at all. I'm now a work-at-home graphic designer, baker, and seamstress. I also work p/t at a small grocery to stay socialized. You basically have to force me to leave my apartment now! I don't have any ambitions beyond being able to pay my rent, etc.; becoming too successful would mean I'd have to get employees, and I would hate that.
@Margaret This sounds like a wonderful combination! Have you considered contractors? I've found it's a great way to outsource work I don't want to do without having the management and admin work.
To Caroline Adams: What is your Enneagram type and Instinct SP SX SO? Iam curious what type of INTJs could be coaches?
Supposedly I’m a 3, but I took it years ago and it honestly never resonated with me. INTJs can be anything, including coaches. But I think the most important thing is what you LIKE about whatever you’re doing. I personally love helping people dream big and then take action on that dream, helping people transform how they see themselves and realize how much power they have, and especially building authentic relationships as introverts.
Hi Caroline, I am a medicine student and I started regretting my choice. Do you think there are some medical field for INTJ? I love medicine but I feel it's not completely for me. I was thinking on being a legal doctor or a cardiologyst
Hey, Maria! There are so many ways to apply your strengths and interests, whether they’re in medicine or something adjacent. I encourage you to get clear on what you love about the paths you’re considering and what still doesn’t feel like it’s a good fit. Then swap what you don’t like with what you want instead. As a starting point, what’s making you feel like medicine isn’t completely for you?
I’m a INTJ pediatric dentist. Love what I do. You will do well in whatever profession you choose. You will design systems that will allow you to be affective and efficient. Being introverted, I strategically hire extroverts. I’m not so sure that I have big ideas or like to collaborate with others. I will however take a system apart, reassemble for smoother more efficient production. Not a micro manager, you’ll give people the training and skill they need to perform and bloom. You run into the closet between pts for downtime.
I am sure what to do with my life. I got a bachelor’s in psychology, but I can’t get any job with that degree. I still love psychology, but I hate working one-one with people. My personality fits with INTJ and INFP. Help?
@kity Noir You can get a ton of opportunities with a psych degree bc what is ANY job if not trying to understand why people behave the way they do, what motivates them, and how to influence them?
As a first step, I invite you to challenge the belief that you CAN'T get a job with that degree. I had a career in Financial Services with a psych and french degree of all things. But I used my learnings into a career built around organizational change and now as a coach helping people make big career and life changes.
As a second step, I'd invite you to get more granular about what you DO like, especially if you love psychology.
For example, if you don't like working one on one, does that mean that you love large groups? medium groups? small groups?
Do you prefer teaching them psych concepts or is there a particular area of psych focus (addiction, happiness, org psych, etc?)
What's the main impact you want to have? For example, help people be happier, help companies be more effective at making change?
I'd start with these big questions, then refine.
Does this help?
@@CarolineAdamsCoaching Thank you very much!
I am a MBA graduate and got campus placement,but not joined, At that time I wanted to do phd , but I am not very sure about teaching job.Will it suit an intj or not.
Please guide me!
Hey, @Your Garden! There's lots of things you CAN do. I'd ask yourself a more basic question: do you WANT to this?
What excites you about the phd program? Teaching? Are the elements interesting enough to try it? Sometimes it's helpful to envision yourself walking through the day--what lights you up? What do you what to run from?
Let us know what you decide!
Thanks for this video, I studing to became a nutrictionist. It fit for INTJ?
Hey, @Alice. It's less about what you do for a living and more HOW you do it. So, if you're interested in the work itself, being a nutritionist can be a great fit. I could see deep knowledge of nutrition and even contrarian viewpoints on trends/fads could be really fun. I'd be choosy about the ENVIRONMENT you practice in and the way you interact with folks so you can protect your energy and recharge.
@@CarolineAdamsCoaching Thank you so much ☺️
INTJ Career Types & Opportunities includes (based from popular list of personalities) :
1. Isaac Newton & Nikola Tesla - Scientists, Philosophers, Thinkers & Inventors
2. Jane Austin, Angela Lansbury & Karl Marx - Writer, Authors
3. Donald Rumsfeld & Colin Powell - Secretary of State & Defense, Politicians
4. Ludwig Von Beethoven - Classical Music Composer
5. Elon Musk - Business Entrepreneur, CEO, Business Executive
6. Thomas Jefferson & Dwight Eisenhower - US President
7. Bill Gates - Microsoft Inventor & Founder
Conclusion : They exists from all types of careers and forms, working as individuals or in groups, corporations to governmental politics, original thinkers or business development, Software IT and even potentially good in the areas of finance too! There is no career limitations for INTJ personalities!
Oh yes.... they will be good Coaches as well 💃🕺
Thank you for sharing this! Yes!
Thought teaching would work but after 22 years in hs English I had to bow out. Wayyy to human service related, I now see. Now I just started a new job a week ago as a career advisor and had to shadow someone as part of the job(in a retail store) and felt my heart drop yet again when I realized I’d have to really “interact” and be “ friendly” with strangers or if not I’d be viewed as “ cold and aloof”…I’ m just not a social one, if I know you perhaps, but it’s not a natural instinct to strike up conversations and do idle chit chat….why does that make me a “monster”?
It doesn't make you a monster at all! These interactions take a TON of energy, especially if you have to be "on" like teaching or customer service. I'd invite you to look at where your energy is going that feels draining and how you can either recharge OR do those activities less/differently. Protect your energy!
@@CarolineAdamsCoaching ☺️thanks so much for the kind words. Would you say that intjs as a group seem to struggle or have challenges with overall job satisfaction in general? I’m in my 40s and mom has told me in the past that I’ve complained at every job I’ve ever had! Lol. I don’t purposely go into a new job looking to kick the “hornets nest” so to speak but often I’ve found myself applying for jobs to get a job to pay bills, even when I invest money in furthering my education I end up bored or unfulfilled in an area. I’ve never actually seen a post for a job I know I’d love and then applied and then actually got it. I definitely like the idea of creating my work but even now with over 30 years in the work force I’m still asking “ What’s my calling/purpose?” And I don’t want to invest any more money in something I think I might like or be good at if it’s going to later on be a “fail” due to boredom or wrong environment 😩🤔😩 I’m beginning to ask “What is going on with me?”
@@t.terrell7037 There's nothing going on with you other than the beautiful realization that you want/need more from work than to just pay the bills.
90% of the workforce is disengaged, so I don't think it's a problem specifically for INTJs but I do think we're wired to see all that's possible and be much more bothered/in our heads when reality doesn't align with how it *should* work. 😂
I think you nailed it -- you need something intellectually challenging that has the right environment (sounds like with a lot less people engagement and more with the people who get you when it's required).
I'd invite you to take stock of those 30 years of work (and maybe into childhood) -- really mine it for what you loved and were good at, the qualities of your co-workers, how you spent your time. Add onto it anything you haven't had but want now. Then talk to everyone about what you're going after.
I'll bet you know more than you think. Don't settle.
@@CarolineAdamsCoaching thank you so much! Is your coaching in any way related to job and career exploration? If so would I go to your page to find more info? I feel like I’ve been asked the questions you mentioned a few times in life and I need to perhaps refine some of what I’d list but also would want to have the time to research the other things related to those topics as they relate to a job or work in that particular area. I’ve always loved the arts (music, art, film) and I love animals, which is funny because most type us as more scientific. But maybe what I’d love is a combo of both. Also I’d need to consider time investments because at this stage of life I don’t see me getting anymore degrees so learning and mastering a skill would need to be a bit unconventional.
@@t.terrell7037 Unconventional is what INTJs do best, haha! Yes, combine combine combine! And if the INTJ stereotypes don't fit, discard! I'm not scientific or engineer-y AT ALL.
Also, it's very likely you don't need a degree with all your real-world experience (some exceptions may apply).
Yes, I'm a career coach! You can find out more about my coaching program and philosophy at carolineadamscoaching.com
So would the military be a bad choice for us?
What appeals to you about the military?
Bravo! I left my last job because, well, it wasn't "my" job to begin with. It lead me to stop and analyze why I liked where I had worked previously (for 12 years) vs where I ended up. Many of the points made in the video were "on point." Many of the things I accomplished and found rewarding on my last job came in absence of being aware of my personality trait. In fact, much of what I did felt intuitive and like a series of no-brainers; I couldn't possibly fathom why other people couldn't see what I saw, make the connections between disparate things that I did, etc. That often made me feel alienated and as if I didn't have as much in common with other people. Now, I just embrace it. I just wish I could embrace the job search itself, but that's an entirely separate topic that's best served with a helping of I'd-rather-chew-my-right-arm-off flambéed with sarsaparilla and grits.
Great awareness, @Wassup! Yes, this is the nature of our strengths--they're so obvious and intuitive that we don't realize our gifts. Glad you're embracing them.
And I hear you re the job search. That's kind of what I do so feel free to reach out with questions.
I'm a huge fan of skipping the traditional process and getting opportunities through networking. Here's a bunch o' resources if you're interested: carolineadamscoaching.com/blog/category/Networking
The good news is that you can use those SAME gifts to find a way in!
Same here. I am quiting my job which I have been working for 12years. It held me back, I am not happy. at all.
8:25 That really kinda resonates with me as well, about wanting to be part of a team. Like I see a lot being said about introverts (or INTJs) not liking group assignments in school, for example. But I actually like group assignments/projects, as it can be a chance to come together and associate/talk with others around certain ideas, which I don't often get to do. Though I find it terrible if the group is full of lazy or uninterested people
Yes, @Yewo! Love this example.Talk with us about ideas, just don’t hold us back! Thanks for sharing
You are not an INTJ.
I am a nurse. I find it hilarious that INTG people like only a “particular” type of person. This is so true. I hated the ER, I like the knowledge. I did not care for med-surg. I’ve done rehab nursing…. Meh. But I do case management and I like it a lot. Are there things that are irritating of course. People sometimes annoy the crap out of me, but I make my schedule. I problem solve on behalf of patients, I get to do one on one disease coaching…. And I thought of a good business idea. Lol. I like alone time… no…. I NEED it. I am not threatened by being alone. I like it. My brain…. Never ever ever ever stops. I have ideas in my dreams. I can tell my brain to be quiet, but it does no good. Another way I relax is painting or creating. Sometimes I get this deep seeded need to create something….anything. Kinda strange.
@Ashley You do such important work! THANK YOU! Love that you have found outlets and an environment that suits your beautiful INTJ-ness. I HEAR YOU so hard on the deep-seated need to create. Love that about us!
Hi caroline, 2024 ??
Are you going strong ?
Love from portugal 🇵🇹🤔👍🙏
Hey! I think this is the kindest, most gentle call out I’ve ever received. 😂 If you’re commenting on the fact that I haven’t posted a video in awhile, I’m sorry! I’ve gotten busy with coaching and moving and traveling. I hope to get back to it soon. Any topics you want me to cover? Love back to you from the US.
@@CarolineAdamsCoachingthanks, i m struggling to find my passion in work.
Just found out i AM an intj, been fired/left many Times from jobs. I don t seem to fit anywhere. Some friends and family just don t get it.
They say " just choose some thing .." but after some time i disengage from work. It doesn t ring a Bell anymore.
I read The book " so good they can t ignore you " from cal Newport , that debunks passion. He says just learn The skills that ultimately you become passionate about it.
I m in The Middle.
Ps : English is not my native language, please ignore any mistake.
Sugestion ??
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@@johnpinheiro6211 Welcome to INTJ world! "Just choose some thing" isn't really an option for INTJs; it's just not how we're wired. Re the passion question, I invite you to define what it actually looks like FOR YOU and how important it is. Here's a video: th-cam.com/video/s5G8ef-Y8_Y/w-d-xo.html
Here's another exercise to start getting clearer on what lights you up: th-cam.com/video/q7mROx6LKL8/w-d-xo.html
Let me know your thoughts!
I am an INTJ and agree with most of this information, but do not prefer groups. People absolutely exhaust me, especially the loud, aggressive, look at me, spotlight hogs who are very insecure. I literally cannot regain my energy even after a weekend alone after being around those at work like this, many have addictions and are just a mess. I work for the state government, and it is extremely hierarchical, and you see so much unethical, immoral nonsense, gossip, unfairness, politics, just ignorant stuff that you cannot believe is happening and so cannot wait to retire. I do hope to own a small business of my own one day but am afraid I will be worn out by the time it happens after 35 plus years of being held back by those who get into positions, they are undeserving of only because of those they know. I have worked in finance and investment banking which I liked but had a few around me like those I just spoke of who pushed themselves forward and me out.
I have also worked in county, state and federal government for the financial security and benefits. Again, not bad jobs, just the people that I want to escape from around me. I cannot stand misuse of power and control freaks or those who continually break, rules, laws or act like grade school children and get away with it, so boring and annoying and I cannot get work done, in an open office environment with people like this either. It is funny that you mentioned being tagged as a socially awkward as this is the label these types I have noted here give us all. It is a way to try to make themselves look good at our expense, because they are the opposite. I enjoy working with groups of intelligent people who are like myself, quiet, stay in their own space, are respectful of others and do not gossip or create drama daily all day long and who do not have the issues several I have worked around have, ironically it always seems to be those with addiction issues that are the worst to have to deal with.
Should I avoid going into healthcare? I worry that I'll care too much about process, and not enough about patients. Interested in your view.
@Mary Fitzgerald This is a big question.
Here's where my brain goes first: esp when a certain profession attracts people of certain personality types or focus (caretakers, for example), a different personality type can be a GAME CHANGER.
Let's say there's a bunch of ESFJs or INFJs who are very focused on patients.
Being an INTJ who takes a step back, looks at the systems as a whole, then HELPS improve the processes to INCREASE the likelihood of better outcomes for everyone is HUGE.
I think of Atul Gawande, who introduced the Surgical Safety CHECKLIST to simplify something big and complex--surgeries--and drastically improved safety and outcomes--GENIUS. (No idea what his personality type is; I've just always found his story fascinating).
But there's perhaps a set of more important questions--Why are YOU going into healthcare? What interests you about it? Does a career in healthcare feel aligned and enjoyable to YOU?
I'm an intj in healthcare although in admin role. I ended up here by accident.... a long story. Healthcare is a mess. It's one big steaming pile of you know what. Too many feelers trying to please everyone, with no direction or goal for the department. My boss is an INFJ and she is the first INFJ I hated. Just disorganized, hates any change. Will block it at all coats necessary. All she cares about is petting people emotionally so they love her. But if you are looking for a place to clean up it's a big job. I'm been secretly working on cleaning processes and systems with an ENTP. We both care to make people's lives easier so they are less stressed about their work however, the INFJ is threatening saying I'm not performing in my duties. Shes too chickenshit to say so directly so she made an ESTJ deliver the news. I literarily broke down in tears. I've been killing myself for this place and all I get is tears. I've been thinking of going into project management but I'm scarred now. 😫 I've been talking to an ESFP friend who said it would be different because id be hired for project management role... a change would be wanted. So I warrant you this: don't change anything if it isn't wanted. Even if they keep wishing for something but doing nothing about it. It only brings pain in healthcare. Feeler types in managerial roles can be really manipulative. I quit the project but the ENTP is sad without me so still reports progress to me. I think secretly hopes I'll come back lol. But I'm so betrayed and prideful, I can't.
Dr. House was a brilliant INTJ physician. If you are highly disagreeable, use a cane and are addicted to pain killers, it just might work for you.
i say im a lone wolf but i do want a small pack of wolves lol
😂😂😂 Love it, @Scrim Gaming! I want a small pack of wolves, too.
4:50
I can't smile this much. How do you do that lol?
@Jeff I think I read somewhere that it takes fewer muscles to smile then frown, so I think I might just be…really lazy?! 😂
@@CarolineAdamsCoaching Maybe, or maybe for me it is the fact my wife of 20 years died last year. She was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer, told she would live for decades, died 5 months later, and left me raising our 5 year old son alone. So these days the smiles are harder. But I'm glad you have so many for all of us!
@@JeffreyWillis800 💛 Oh that is so rough. I'm so sorry for your loss. So hard to grieve and be there for your son. May your wife's memory and your son bring you some smiles in time.
Love the smiling💜🌟👍
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Is the career of a lawyer suitable for people with an intj personality?
Hey, @user. It could be if that interests you! There are a lot of different ways to practice law in a lot of different environments. I’d encourage you to get clear on what you like about the law - e.g. if it’s about justice, going deep on a subject matter, and finding creative solutions you could work in law or many other professions as well. I’d also really think about your environment - working in big law would be different from a small niche practice or even the legal team within a company. So think about how you want to work and who you want to work with just as much as what you want to work on day to day. Does this help?
@@CarolineAdamsCoaching
Thank you for your explanation.
I studied urban engineering at the university. The courses of this field included urban law, urban economy, urban environment, urban sociology, urban transportation, etc.
I didn't like the multitude of different subjects while I didn't study any of them in depth.
Therefore, I would like to study a new field to learn science in depth.
And for a while, I worked in a company where the work was simple and without challenges for me, and some of the company's employees were not intelligent and did not follow the company's rules, and these issues made me unhappy with that job.
@@user-wp7gu4kg5r All these elements are clues to screen for in the next job. This is great.
@@CarolineAdamsCoaching Definitely a "yes" for this one. Law attracts a *lot* of female INTJs (over a quarter of the women in my law school class). You get to use your analytic and problem-solving skills. You need to think way long term, as the outcome of a court case can affect people for years to come. I like to compare making a major legal change to being able to change the value of a constant - or being able to practice magic. You get to do so much of the stuff most people find frustrating, annoying or impossible (but we find fun), and people *pay* you to do it.
I'm an NTJ and can't stand the F personalities/feelers
I hope you'll give INFJs another chance. They're awesome and so needed. We can learn a lot from them. 🌈
INTJs like people?? Hmmm, interesting...😀
In small doses. At a distance. 😉
@@CarolineAdamsCoaching I think it is because we can get too much information from other people, and you can't "un-know" things. If we INTJs let down our defenses (which we can do - it is work, but we can do it), we become laser-focused and get so much information (which we immediately begin to process) that we sometimes find out more about them than either of us is comfortable with.
@@originalismisacrock166 interesting! I hear this. I actually love going deep with people. I love knowing their hopes and dreams and what hey care about. There’s something in that quantity of info, though. You’re so right, all of it needs to be processed! 😂
At my first adult job, they’d tease me because I’d come back the next day with thoughts on the conversation the day before. My boss called it “post-processing.” I tell people: just because the conversation stops, doesn’t mean it stops in my head.
@@originalismisacrock166 if you don’t mind sharing, I’d love to hear an example of a situation where you got too much info or felt uncomfortable.
I’ve DEF had people feel uncomfortable with the amount THEY shared with me, but asking deep questions is so natural for me I don’t even realize I’m doing it. (Being a coach certainly adds to this!)
@@CarolineAdamsCoaching O.K. An example. Ouch.
I have additional graduate education besides law. I got two years into a clinical psychology graduate program before I had to leave.
I turned out to be very good at projective testing (so much so that interns would bring their stuff to me before going to supervision). When you learn projective testing, you need to have volunteer subjects. One of the ones I had lined up had to leave town for an emergency, and a friend got her cousin to fill in. Second card into the Rorschach and I knew I had someone suicidal, although she made no reference to death. Stopped the testing right then, and broached the question, only to learn that she had attempted suicide within the week. (Her cousin did not know. I had to stop then because, if I was right, some of the later cards could have caused actual harm.) I got her connected with her EAP immediately.
I had heard of this happening with other experienced clinicians, but never expected to have it happen while in training. My professor was baffled too, because she could not figure out how I was doing what I was doing as an INTJ.
That one was the most profound, but I have had people make statements that caused me to know about things, like their past abuse, and marital infidelities.
In 1988, one of my professors made a statement in class that two other INTJs also picked up on. He only said a couple of words, but we all knew that his wife was the one who insisted he be on sabbatical that year, and why. After class, one of them asked "did you hear that?" and the other two of us said "yeah." Typical INTJ discussion.
I can still get into that open, receptive state, but it takes work, and is exhausting. Once I do it, *everything* gets in. It feels like being truly naked - like "no clothes and no skin" naked. Did it once and only once in Court, to interview-style question a teen with developmental delays and autism (with the Judge's permission). Once done, all the other attorneys stared wide-eyed at me. Took me ten minutes to get back in "lawyer mode." Fortunately, the Judge declared a ten-minute recess. During that time, some of the other lawyers (and two social workers) asked me "*what* did you just do?" Apparently, it can sometimes be perceived from the outside.
I think it is a combination of silencing my defense mechanisms, forcing my deep focus to be on another person, and in the moment. Another part of my mind is generating hypotheses, and when there is a match: Bingo!
INTJ: “And I realized the government is too incompetent to uncover my tax fraud”
That’s so strange! I didn’t know I ghost wrote the script for this video
i’m an INTJ too, was teaching elementary art and special education which i liked a lot because i gather their artworks and analyse them to see if there’s anything related to their development and educational needs. but then i left my country and currently working in office setting, it horribly sucks when u see the chaotic policy and how people cannot manage their emotions in the workplace😅
Oh wow that sounds like a big change. Any plans to get back to art and special ed?