The Genius of the INTJ
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Yea, may have talked about chess for too long...I do that sometimes.
Do you play?
Nathan i love this video! ❤
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No problem for us intj’s, we can abstract from it :)
Nathan Glass not at all
You may like to know this. INTJs are more likely to watch but not subscribe due to minimalistic tendency and will only subscribe unless they know theyll watch the channel alot
Statistics: INTJ are at 1,5% of population, INTP around 3%
The Internet: literally only these two types
Yeah I've noticed but it makes sense (intp myself)
infps too!
I think both types love MBTI and psychology stuff. Other people just don't know their types.
although I do believe there are wanna be intjs and intps (also infjs) out there, i feel like the reason that these types are everywhere is that most of them live on on the Internet and the reason you found them alot here is that they are obsessed with finding out more about the themselves and understanding how they work.
M i s t y p e s
I think that it's hilarious, and so unintentionally egotistical, that probably most of the people who watch INTJ videos, are INTJ. We can't get enough of our own minds lol 🖤
That's dominant Ni for you. What else is it interested in??? XDD
Yes, feeding our own ego lol
It’s true. 😬
Why focus on the ego when the id is so much more fun?
These MBTI videos are the only place where we are liked because in society we are considered to be arrogant, aloof, heartless assholes with occasionally a soft lovable center for the very few that we allow to get that close to us. Sincerely INTJ female.
The genius of the intj : forgeting every sensory detail of reality and living a whole life without living it. Kinda crazy.
in other words, living many lives, when others waste their time living one life to its max ... pathetic hehe xd
@@goozmute3095 Good point. As an INTJ, I use the "good traits" as a calming balm for my insecurities. I felt misunderstood and unnormal for too many years. Now I know, that these things are just part of me and that other people are going / went through the same or, at least, very similar things.
And I focus on the "flaws" as a "to improve"-list. Things I need to work on. Like, I force myself out of my comfort zonesin very specific ways. I've had a couple of part-time jobs in the service area. I hated them and they really drained me, but they helped me learn to communicate.
@@saguablub2818 same story, been there, still there!
LOL! Don't worry, I'll be doing an opposite version of this series, so people can enjoy the positive descriptions while they last ~ Nathan
@@goozmute3095 Well then I wish you the strength to endure this major pain in the a.. and that it will help you improve yourself
The problem isn’t in the journey, it’s in finding the right destination.
Interesting. So deciding on which goal to aim for? ~ Nathan
That has definitely been the case.
The problem is in the journey. It is the dilemma to find the right destination.
This is my current problem. I know the results, just don't know which game to play. I've been learning business, but have no idea what sector to get into. It's like, I like a bunch of them, but don't love them enough to get into it. Then there's also "why not follow my passion" but that sector won't get me the results I want. There's a whole sh*t show in my mind, it's been months now, I've been inactive. Inaction is also making me do down-spiral backward, unhealthy things. 🤦♂️ 🤷♂️ idk anymore.
Oh yeah my problem is not the journey. But by repeating the path i get to the understanding.
I mean it is not like people tell me we all learn from our mistakes. Nay. I just repeating the same mistakes to figure out the pattern of the next.
I am an INTJ, and I think you just made a work of art. Clarity, flow and accuracy. That was a real "nathan"..( I am assuming you know the etymology of your name). Continue in excellence,
“Work of art” - I can genuinely think of no higher compliment to receive than that one so thank you. #giftfromgod! ~
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@@lovewho just keep doing what you're doing, Nathan.
INTJ female here. This mentality is how I approach MBTI. No doubt MBTI is super flawed with a 40% successful typing rate. But when you look past the flawed areas of MBTI and look at Jungs cognitive functions to use them in a social engineering way, it become more valuable. Even if it's not very scientific, we're rationale and moral users, we think in masses. When I see something like cognitive functions which has the ability to help non self-aware people develop self-awareness and introspection. Whether the system is 'flawed' or not, the possibilities it has been very beneficial to a lot of people. And that's just the price of rationale, we're not the logic users who are concerned with depth, rationale is about wider scale and that's why some of us will take post-truth stances on topics like MBTI. Personally, the benefits of using MBTI to social engineer far outweighs the negatives, it's extremely useful (crediting C.S Joseph) and has been a game changer for someone like me who has great assess to their ENTP unconscious.
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It’s a very great tool, and it answers many a question of how and why one is the way they are. Cognitive functions paired with an understanding of their Big Five assessment can help one identify the problems and find a solution. That’s my NeTi mindset on the subject.
INTJ here, I've been watching C.S Joseph content for a couple of months, it helped me to understand a little far there the cognitive functions, even tho, I have my doubts, because I see a lot of negative comment about him, It make me use my TI critic lol, so I wanted to ask you, what do you think about him and his content, I really want to learn from a reliable source
Actually, while the accuracy of the MBTI is debated, there's no support at all for the cognitive functions.
Yes INTJs ARE VERY SMART. THE FUNNIEST INTERACTION IS BETWEEN THE ESTJ AND INTJ. THEY WOULD KILL EACHOTHER.
what makes you think that?
They say the infj and intj rank the highest on IQ test out of the16types. As a intj I feel bad for the rest of you because I am dumb as s*** LOL
@@jasongeer9402 Your probably smarter than you think. I think I'm stupid too, but I have emotional and Street smarts. IQ is just a number. And no matter how much you know, you realize you dont really know everything. All my life , I was told that I should be getting straight As, but I didnt care. I just wanted to have friends and do fun things., but I graduated, without opening up a book or studying. That's ok.
One year, I made honer role, but everyone treated me the same. I realized, that I was still the same person, so why should I kill myself and spend am hour studying every day? Weird.
I did ok.
I have seen a argument between a ESTJ and a INTJ. The INTJ won with a quick roast. A ESTJ is a Neanderthal swing his/her club around when arguing. A INTJ is like a Assassin when arguing. Waiting for the right moment to stick the knife and twist.
@@Pathfinfer11
IM ENFJ, despite w hat some tests say. My friends say ENFJ extremely Assertive type. When your friends describe you as Feisty and Fearless, that's scary. Some of my friends even say my presents is a dominate force. But I still suffer from extreme lack of confidence, really. I'm trying to be less dominate, but I'm nice.
ESTJ CAN GET OUTSMARTED BY INTJ. IVE SEEN THIS........ INTUITIVE TYPES KNOW WHEN TO STRIKE, WITHOUT SHOWING EMOTIONS TOO.
Each type has their strengths and weaknesses, you are better off to work together.
True strength is in numbers.
As an INTJ kid when it came to family I was very sensitive but when it came to other people I could care less whether they died or not. I was also a very imaginative kid, trapped inside my head I didn’t pay attention that much in class because they weren’t talking about interesting and important stuff. I always got what I want but deep inside I was always misunderstood, I couldn’t fit in in school, the neighborhood kids were too dumb to play with and I was always the outcast in school.
I understand you completely as another INTJ. When I went to a Highschool from homeschool, which is EXTEREMELY hard for us INTJs, I was very unpopular because I hadn’t grasped yet how to act around other ppl. But I used my intellect to perceive the social conventions and played the system from there. Doing that, I was able to gain a ton of popularity. Our greatest weakness, social stuff, can become our one of our greatest strengths through the use of our intelligence.
Right there with you. It took me most of my adult life to figure out I wasn't crazy.
You just have to embrace the way you are. A world with only emotionally driven people wouldn't be benefical. Everyone is needed. As an infj myself, I am very interested in people and I really try to understand intjs. An elder intj I knew hurt me once and and I'm still wounded to this day. I've now learned that everyone is different and more about how the mind of an intj works. It helps me to work with myself.
The ‘ neighborhood kids that are too dumb “ is the crisis i’m facing currently. I mean all of them don’t even understand what i’m trying to say. That’s why i’ve gotta speak in their “language” and now i lose touch with mine. I wish there was another intj, intp or entp in my building. 😑😑
I have never felt so understood just by reading a comment before.. tears of joy
INTJs are rare...
But not in TH-cam
Rofl
Thanks for the laugh. 👍👍👍
Couldn’t resist doing that one! ~ Nathan
Literally, there are many of them working *For TH-cam too. 😅
Create an endless source of value and we will be outside your door demanding more.
The internet makes this type sound prestigious.
"The mastermind" "Goal oriented" "Frickin' Elon Musk!!!"
I mean yes... we go a bit overboard with our descriptions ~ Nathan
It's my way of making myself feel better to counterweight me doubting myself to the point I'm paralyzed in thought
i know, right? it almost feels like pressure to be that "amazing, rare and super smart INTJ" that the internet describes thereby making me doubt myself further than i already do.
I don't want all this attention despite fully deserving it.
How abt Bill Gates?
INTJ is the coldest human; (INTP is the warmest 'robot'). Am I wrong?
deep down INTPs have emotions (we all know that) but I wonder if it is same for INTJs
@@aidenorsomething4002 My bf is an INTJ and I can confirm that he has emotions. He just wears a mask in public, acting all tough. Deep down inside he's a softie.
Well I am a IN TJ I think you you're a hundred percent correct ✌
@@tripalon3 Introverted Feeling (Fi) is sympathy, in INTJ Child slot.
Extroverted Feeling (Fe) is empathy, in INTP Infant slot.
Empathy is "warmer" than sympathy. Agreed?
@@Martin_Neal I think it is Introverted Feeling which is empathy. Introverted Feeling looks at a suffering person and imagines what it means to be in his or her place. Extroverted Feeling looks at a suffering person and reflects on what one can do to reduce the suffering without needing to imagine oneself to be in the other person's shoes. Both feeling functions can generate altruistic actions. But they work differently.
Conspiracy theories are really a thing for Introverted Intuitive.
@@wakwak7511 Exactly.
Not for me. No matter how attractive some idea seems i would only give it attention if there were some evidence to back it up.
Wak Wak Yes, it was made from laboratories to plan the upcoming one world government while people are asleep. You are right.
Don’t know if you watch anime but Classic INTJ reminds me of this character named Lelouch from a show called Code Geass.
I've also noticed that its a thing for Se Doms (ESTPs and ESFPs), where they have the tendency to find a more simplistic Ni narrative to connect all the sensory facts they're taking in. So it's a thing I've noticed for both Ni Doms and Se Doms ~ Nathan
My Dad was an INTJ so this is really heart warming to see. 😊
And I like the way you celebrate and even admire each type for their appealing qualities while balancing with honest and constructive criticism. Very balanced.
The more I watch the more I love your videos! You and Frank James are my favorites!
This is great to hear! I try to portray the best of each type without being over the top so hearing that you think this is balanced is awesome! ~ Nathan
Intj's did you sometimes wondering if you really here ? Even though you're really here
Yes.
Maybe is a dream inside a dream
Yes a lot
I am *nearly* convinced that I am, in fact, in a simulation entirely populated by NPCs.
One who understands us must be one of us.
By the way, I enjoyed the chess analogies well.
They were precise.
Thats great to hear. I genuinely always (just after uploading the video) think wait...will any of that make sense to people? ~ Nathan
I was about to ask Nathan about this right before I saw this comment.
anyone can understand how the types work if they understand the theory. the difficulty in understanding individual people, only then can you type them. also there's a lot more to people than type which makes things confusing. theory simple enough, people not.
Well, kiddos, way back in the late paleo era, the value of STs was beyond dispute. Who better to carve up a Mastedon, club the enemy, flint knap,etc. So, in this context, your typical paleo INTJ may have done OK with this skill set, but his/her value in the tribe of 100 would be to innovate.
So, our paleo INTJ observes the skill of a handul of hunters in taking down a few large herbivores, but thinks, "Hmm, we really need more animal protein to see ourselves through the winter" So, paleo INTJ comes up with the bright idea that, by coordinating the efforts of the entire tribe, large numbers of herbivores can be coerced into jumping off a cliff, thus increasing exponentially the tribes' calories.
Dude, I could read this stuff all day. ~ Nathan
@@lovewho Thanks. That was the truncated version of Paleo INTJ. I didnt want to write a PHD disertation in the comment section. 😀
"large numbers of herbivores can be coerced into jumping off a cliff, thus increasing exponentially the tribes' calories."
And then burying the excess meat in the snow so it'd stay cold enough to last several weeks without rotting. The first refrigerator.
The INTJ in the tribe was/is always planning the next hunt and meal.
What you're saying can also backfire lots of times, when we end up taking a tiny bit of insignificant data, and blow it out of proportion and make it a monster in our heads...
Aka making assumptions where the data doesn't support said assumptions, just because this is how our brain works, trying to come up with rules on how things (or people) work... And being slammed in the face by reality because we were blind to it
Edit:
Can you please talk about intj weaknesses, and ways of overcoming them best?
Weaknesses such as being rigid, always needing a plan, the utmost resistance towards taking action and figuring things out as they come... This resistance feels so strong as when trying to put the same polar of magnets together..
Agreed, that'd be great to hear about
how to win as an intj, same channel
you should read "laws of human nature" by robert greene
I think that's the case for an immature INTJ, or one with weak Te relative to Ni, because Te should always double check Ni insights. (Often forming a huge tree of possible ways events may unfold.)
This Ni-Te feedback loop would be something good to mention, Nathan.
I prefer to keep such assumptions on the back-burner so to speak when "more info needed" is a thing. Also, have you watched his other videos?
I appreciate you, Nathan. As a woman INTJ, I think I may have experienced more challenges because an INTJ woman isn’t a typical woman. So, men are attracted to the physical but really don’t know what to do with me when socializing with me. And though I am and can quite be “girly” like clothes, hair, make up, skin…I’m not a girls’ girl. Women gossiping or having over excited conversations talking over each other annoys me. I tend to leave it before it shows on my face. So, most women don’t know what to do with me either. 😂
As in INTJ female, I am the same way. It made high school very challenging because I couldn't relate to what most other girls were interested in. Still now that I'm older, I appreciate my uniqueness. Plus, I am married to an INTP so we appreciate one another's uniqueness :)
Your description is perfect. That's my life as well. I mostly spend my time with my intelligent male friends. Conversation is much more interesting.
Yes that's perfectly true. I never could get along with women, only a rare few. Talking to men are much easier. I get nervous and uncomfortable talking with most women. Somehow they also find me boring as I don't react or respond like how they expect a woman to. I appreciate myself more as i grow up, realizing my insecurity was just my unique trait. I appreciate my small circle of friends who truly matters, and happy to have my ENFP husband, who's also my best friend. 😊
Same here. I don't like being with most women because I never understood how they can talk about different topics simultaneously and jump from one topic to another. It drives me crazy. I can't do it.
As a female INTJ, most women bore me to tears. And I cannot hide it. Nor do I wish to.
These are exceptional observations. I think the greatest tragedy of the INTJ is that the rest of mankind just isn't interested, by and large, in the things that tend to excite INTJs.
Imagine 3x INTJ's and 2x INFJ's in a household, growing up. Super interesting conversations all the time. :)
Love the N. Tesla image by the way!
WOW! Thats a lot of intuition! Thank you ~ Nathan
Wow I live in small-town Missouri and have only met maybe six intjs and about nine INFJs my whole life
If you really look at his eyebrows, he's obviously an INTP
Amna Al Hawaj lol yes
I'm an INTP and I'm pretty sure he isn't. He seems way too stylish and non-geeky, I would guess ENTJ.
@@savvageorge He is not stylish, he only wears black that's why it looks consistent, sometimes he wears a pyjama top and pretends like no one notices. He's a biologist that teaches piano and likes mbti.
@@savvageorge I've seen him around other people, he's shy and quiet and only speaks after he feels comfortable. He's definitely introverted.
@@priontex4439 Dude I've heard him say he wishes he was ISTP.
Thank you for this. As an INFP married to a brilliant INTJ I am so grateful for her tactical skills, which provide instant clarity and wisdom, while at the same time resisting the urge to react to the method of delivery.
Is it just me or all intjs always have a literal sense of pride and heavy confidence?
- intj
This is insane. 30 years of life and I just heard exactly how I think explained back to me. Glad to know there are others out there.
I absolutely LOVE your sense of humor. As an American,I can attest that it's so refreshing.
This is great to hear! ~ Nathan
@@lovewho What origin is your accent?
Like my details are available to TH-cam anyway...pfff!
INJs in primitive society: shaman, witch doctor, astronomer, druid.....etc.
Your description of maneuvering one's self and surroundings to place one's attributes in a position of strength is what I've spent the last couple years working very hard on...after being stuck in a very inopportune situation for far too long in which I could not be myself.
Pattern seeking gets horribly misused when Ni and Fi party without Te or Se XD ...ugh..... imagining patterns because it's what I wanted, I'm ashamed T_T
I’m glad the ubiquity of such types on TH-cam are being addressed (despite the now questionable statistics of INTJs INFJs INFPs and INTPs). I think it goes beyond that though, I think the ubiquity isn’t necessarily in these 4 types, but rather being an intuitive in general. It’s rare you’ll find any sensor on TH-cam or social media, everybody is an intuitive apparently. I think that might be because there’s a fundamental lack of understanding for the true distinction between the two, plus the inferiority perspective on Sensory types. People definitely see Sensory types as inferior, and instead try to convince themselves that they’re Intuitive instead, and what that leaves us with is the “INFJ here!” On every other comment in every mbti related video. Perhaps it’s the poorly created 16 personalities test that’s on the front lines of mbti introduction that literally asks questions about daydreaming, considering it an Intuitive thing. There’s a lack of understanding and appreciation for functional hierarchies within each type, and all NT or NF types on TH-cam try to convince themselves of their functions so that they can fit in the intuitive category. People also definitely tend to get lost in their own type and lose sight of the fact that we all carry so many different complex functions, yet we try to limit ourselves to the 4 main ones. That’s what I think. What’re your thoughts?
No I don’t. I never implied that.
I have only once seen any kind of superiority complex against sensors, but I'm also only on the periphery of this community. I'm personally of the opinion that making blanket claims that intuitives (or sensors) are superior to sensors (or intuitives) says much more about the person who says it than what the statement itself says. I'm an ISTP and I've seen both brilliant people and idiots of all types. The only thing that type actually says is where and how the individual's mental energy tends to be focused. To believe that a type or group of types is superior is ignorance at best and self-deluded arrogance at worst.
Sensory types are out in the world sensing and experiencing life. They can't be bothered to spend all day in their own imagination, i.e. on the internet. Intuitive types might be perceived as mysterious or uniquely creative, which may heighten the appeal of wanting to claim membership, but I just see intuitive types as people either too scared or too stubborn to step outside their inner world. Doesn't surprise me at all that N types would largely comprise the internet, where they never have to take real-life risks.
Because being intuitive is being genius. It's very rare. All people are geniuses. Being sensor is boring and... Who would not believe that he is super intelligent and unique person? Only a little percent of people know functions, and know how they work. They basing on the letters. Tests are good ,but you have to know functions to get the true score. People basing on stereotypes and characters that belongs to type. They 'd rather relate to Sherlock Holmes, Moriarty, than Frodo, or dankey. The most people that got intuitive type aren't truly intuitive. But who don't want to be genius? The next paradox is that all thinks they are thinking. Who 'd like to be a crying baby? It's a stereotype of feeling type. The most of all these comments where people claim to be Intuitive (Intjs are the most common), are made of tests which select your type by letters, people who don't know the functions, the fear of not being of genius ,as smart as Sherlock Holmes , their type isn't interesting in pop culture. Nobody would say that he has this same type as dankey from Shrek. I'm Intj, but I had to learn functions and make second test to know for sure. Sorry for my English.
It's a bit of column A a bit of column B... For the most part, sensors are more likely to be living in the moment. However, there are some prejudices via stereotypes that people want to be a certain type. However, no type is better than another. Your cognitive stack doesn't make you better, it's how you chose to use your functions that do that. Humans are more complex than stereotypes.
I remember watching a video with a couple ladies had a guest who was convinced he was an intp, but the way he talked was more Se/Ni rather than Ne/Si and they kept pointing this out, but he was so convinced. Then it turns out he has prejudice that the ladies had to cut him off as he was about to say some offensive stuff. Eh, ISTPs are Ti-doms, so wtf dude... It's just all around stupid the ideas people get in their heads to want to be a type. Learn the functions, because that's all that matters in determining a type.
You can find some new philosophy about life while you play Sudoku. I often play multiple rounds in the hardest setting of sudoku apps while thinking about any current problems.
I can't tell whether this comment is serious or a joke but I'm naturally inclined to assume it's serious because...well I do that too ~ Nathan
@@lovewho 200% serious, I assure you. Puzzle games with a nice playlist going off in the background is the best combination for brainstorming. For me, playing sudoku gives me more understanding about making choices in life.
@@mizuhashitsunoka how-
@@lovewho I do it too! I also love to play on the hardest setting and let my mind relax and take in the whole board and at a certain point of flow I'll be able to understand whole rows or squares at a glance without any surface awareness of evaluating anything - like how anyone can look at 5 things and know there are 5 without counting them, it's just apparent. Introverted intuition is weird that way. Sometimes it's harder to know (or at least explain) how I figured something out than it was to get the answer.
Never started Chess as no one in my family would stop reading People magazine long enough to engage in anything cerebral, but I assume I would love it. I wonder, does innate intelligence or grueling practice result in better mastery of the game? Is there a specific type who excel at it? I think INTJs would do well but I don't know much about the other types aside from how they intersect with mine because understanding my type was so necessary to my mental health that I gorged myself on INTJ knowledge and am now too busy digesting it to have taken the time to dive deep into the other types yet. Your vids are really helping us understand ourselves better; thank you.
This is one of the best explanations of Ni I've heard!
Thank you! It’s such a mysterious function in some ways but I think I’m starting to understand it more. Always nice to see you floating around in the comments!! ~ Nathan
As an INTJ, I don't think I'm smart, but also I don't think I'm dumb. My old friends call me smart but my new friends doesn't, I tend to act dumb in front of them to just confirm a case I'm searching, for example is like you're not sure of your math answer so you act dumb asf to ask them abt their answers and when they explain their answers u pointed out their mistakes(in ur mind) and I can surely analyze my answers correctly after that.
For me, I'm too lazy to argue and explain stuff so I just agree on whatever they say, but one time I was in an argument with someone, I shutted her down with 3 sentences and I hated myself for barking back because that was just so childish and I was on my highschool years. Everyone also says that I look intimidating but actually has a cute personality.
I am a daydreamer, wanting to go escape in this world. Wanting for an adventure and stuff.
Can relate.
At least there’s one other person here who doesn’t think they’re better than everyone else.
INTJs are awesome, they just get a bad rep because of a vocal minority on the internet lol
Very interesting point about what role an imaginative mind would have in a prehistoric society.
It makes sense that these types wouldn't be identified commonly in a prehistoric society but would on the internet; the web is literally a portal to any community you want. It's never been easier to find a whole bunch of INTJs in their own virtual communities. And I bet INTJs are so often found looking at MBTI stuff because it's in our nature to want to know more about ourselves and the concept of personalities as an abstract logic to apply to others
also to understand why ppl run away from us. I've been told I'm scary, and I'm like "sweet, but why?"
We're not all that great. It actually kinda suks being an INTJ. Having to put up with stupid people is, for the most part, the most difficult part about being an INTJ... which stupid people are ubiquitous.
"To manifest the abstract in reality." I've been wanting to develop some product ideas for the last 20 years. I'm caught in analysis paralysis constantly afraid that I don't have enough information to start, and also afraid of getting the idea stolen.
Start a little until all parts are ready. Working into perfection takes time and reality isn't always as same as we predicted. Good luck
I've thought about this very thing a lot! What on earth were the Paleolithic versions of NT types doing? Haha. I've tried to imagine life before reading was invented, idk how I would have been happy! Also thinking, I would love to see videos on the dysfunctional versions of each type- not just the weaknesses each type shares, but more like what can go terribly wrong specific to each type if they are really un-rounded in their functions. Like, which types are most prone becoming a cynical misanthrope, or a clinger, or get too down on themselves, etc. I think some types get a bad rep with certain things, it would be nice to see this explained as only being the dysfunctional version, not all within the type.
Yes! It really was a difficult thing to picture in my mind. ~ Nathan
The difference between humans and animals is that we can think about something other than the present moment. This is both a blessing and a curse.
INTJs do a good job of using this ability by actually manifesting their ideas. As someone who is mostly a dreamer I admire that!
Very well said! I agree ~ Nathan
This idea that other animals can't think about the future (or the past) annoys me. I get that behaviorists made this assertion because we can't directly communicate with animals about their thought processes, but it makes absolutely no sense for scientists to assume this about other species simply because we can't read their minds. Plenty of ethological studies and even casual observation supports the possibility of projections into the past/future through memory, learning, anticipation, planning, etc. that is too complex to be explained by 'instinct' alone (at least not any more than our own behavior). It is immediately suspect that our processes could be so divorced from other animals, as if we are not also a product of nature. /soapbox
@@Sharkuterie327 If I may ask, do you have any studies to share about the topic? Only if it isn't too big of a bother.
The topic highly interests me as I am heavily involved with dog training. Here there are many boundaries established by the belief that dogs do have a vastly different way of making memories, in the form of direct associations. Recent studies however have shown that they possess an episodic memory.
To think that they may even have some capacity to think about the past/future would be groundbreaking for me.
I'm INTJ and fact, Love Who is flooded by our type xD. I can tell that most of us here value the accuracy and the zoomed in perspective that Nate provides as it allows us to get 4KHD of our 720p Te conceptions. Ti can save an INTJ the trouble of climbing down the Se ladder through the simplified version of its 'chaos' that a Ti/Ne or Ti/Se had already taken care of. As always, a happy 'customer' of your 'product' Nate. ttu.
Love this comment! Thank you very much ~ Nathan
Johnnie Dilang Cruz 👏👏👏 Well said! This is so true!
Iwas so so lucky to find another INTJ as a mate I ws 32 he was 37...we had 41 wonderful yeard. Now a year after his death I have a relationship with an INTP he is very similar but tyere ARE differences. Since these two types are rare what are the odds I eouñd have two such consecutives life partners...pretty slim...Yes making things fit together via insight is our strong suit. I achieved so m6ch in life professionally and personally at 20. I would never have believed such a life would be possible for me. Wish I had known so I could have kicked back just a bit, relaxed more and enjoyed the ride even more.
INTJs approach life using opportunity cost as the main criteria to make decisions
Good video. I also find the INTJ seemingly averse to groups (virtual or otherwise) because what they see is not what others readily behold. The greats among them, of course, navigate well.
I like that description a lot ~ Nathan
Are these your personal opinions and observations or do you combine a lot of research into these videos? I find them quite interesting and may even subscribe. I see chess is commonly associated with INTJ's but would be curious to what % of INTJ play chess as it has no agenda or positive outcome, i see no reason for me to play it as an INTJ.
I used to have no working memory due to sugar abuse as a child, which prevented me from playing chess well, but since I fixed this in the recent years and gave chess a try, I actually enjoy it. But there is a few problems:
- I enjoy mind games, simply because that's Ni territory, but I hate all the ritual in the game, e.g. "book moves", "openings" and all this fixed strategy which is just plainly boring, especially if you're playing online with a 3-day window for moves. It would've been fun to have discovered those things, but learning them from a book is just meh - and you have to if you want to have a chance against those who did.
- Unsure if that's an INTJ trait, but I am personally very competitive and I'm sure this is a crucial aspect why I enjoy it.
- For the same reason, I hate playing against the computer, because it doesn't feel like there is anyone competing with me.
- I like chess puzzles though, however I am not sure if that isn't just because their design makes them addictive.
- Some people say chess is a good way to learn strategic thinking and I say this is bullshit if you're an INTJ, so just forget it.
- After a dozen of games I managed to beat (and become unbeatable against) my friends who were playing it for several years, which was fun, and am now trying to beat an ENTJ friend, whose dominant Te is a real pain in the ass.
Overall: If you're competitive and you like mind games, or have intellectual friends whose ass you'd enjoy kicking, you will likely enjoy the game, despite being sometimes frustrated with all the rituals.
I have zero urge to learn chess, I am however super into Brasilian Jiu Jitsu...which is arguably human chess. I assume it's the opportunity to lurk about in someone's brainmallows, be intrusive and transgress boundaries without reeally having to 'feel' much?
So I don't think there is any correlation or connection between INTJs and chess. It just seems like a useful way to illustrate how they approach life. These are my theoretical ramblings on TH-cam and I'm always very wary about them not being accurate in any way. I have/do look into all the different typing systems and try to synthesise the parts I think are the most useful ~ Nathan
For me ‘playing chess’ is just a metaphor for what’s going on inside my head. Seeing a hundred million possibilities, calculating every different outcome and never-ending madness.
Crazy thoughts : I really don't think consciousness or imagination or simulation is a human exclusivity. A large part of the world is ruled by causality so for any cognitiv system, developing a sens of anticipation is highly adaptativ. This ability to anticipate is almost universal for everything that lives and moves itself. Imagination in its most complex form is '' just '' this universal sens of anticipation but with a human brain, more neurones, more connectivity with other brain areas and cool stuffs. Maybe what is unique to humans is that they do it the most and the better. A lot of biology and psychology is about spectrums, in a way nothing is really unique but in a way everything is. Like personnality.
Ok well this is a brilliant comment. ~ Nathan
I love this comment! I agree especially about it all being a spectrum. Evolution is a gradual process, it's not just all "dumb" animals with no consciousness lumped together here on the left and brilliant humanity over on the right with a huge chasm between. There's a spectrum of consciousness and imagination across the whole animal kingdom that culminates with us. I don't think the majority of people agree with us on this though, even amongst scientists 😐
Thanks for your fascinating and uncomfortably precise videos. As a scientist and seemingly INTJ, reaching my 50, I am awkwardly surprised that I fit a specific personality type. I work in biological sciences, and despite not being trained in psychology, I always overanalyze everybody's personality. On one hand, I feel sad I didn't know about this personality trait segregation early on in my life. On the other hand, since I've never met someone with my personality type, I feel sad I'm part of a group of people sharing the same personality traits... there goes my uniqueness!
Nonetheless, I would rather know the truth about human nature than live in ignorance. Regarding the evolutionary advantage of this personality type, one can hypothesize that it benefits a population; therefore, it is still present. They are not the main drivers of human groups, most likely because they don't do the daily hard work required to maintain a society... however, they are still necessary. I don't know if I would agree with the chess analogy, but I think it was a helpful exercise. Please forgive my grammar; I'm not a native speaker.
For the chess analogy i really do think that the queen being sacrificed is a perfect example on the fact that power is a non-existent force or more particularly, an illusion.
Often we define power as what it could be but it is only because of that vision that we give the person or in this case the chess piece, the power it truly doesn't have. Yes the queen has a lot of utility and can be considered dangerous but all of that means nothing if it lost early on in the game. Knowing that the utility the queen could have gets cut drastically short when the player realizes what moves are too dangerous and what moves aren't and if you learn to capitalize on that every match ask yourself again, is the queen really that powerful? It has potential because of its utility but now that you have created doubt in certain aspects of the queens potential you therefore break the queens illusion of power. I like this analogy because i think it applies to so much more than chess.
INTJs do take action indeed. The ones in my life are so efficient and so true to their plans, it always amazes my procrastinating ass 😅 Although when adaptability and a quick solution is needed, they tend to look at me with puppy dog eyes
To all my all INTJ Sisters and Brothers, I stand with you. Our lives can be hard because of our innate characteristics. However, we are rare, we make huge positive changes in the lives of others and the organisations we are part of, and we leave so many in awe everywhere we go though not all will admit it.
I'm so intrigued with learning about myself in depth as i was thinking im just a sigma male now i know my functions relate to a INTJ thank you very much iam 34 & successful in every subject i come across I dont really LIKE money but i LOVE creating it
The genius of INTJ is in their exemplary use of rational thinking. Optimal/ rational decision making is impossible without a clear utility function (essentially a clear set of preferences hierarchy), and INTJs excel at best/most rational decisions as they truly care about their values and their relative importance. That enables them to take the most optimal course of action towards a vision that will maximize the manifestation of their values. I am taking my hat down for that.
Extremely well said as always ~ Nathan
Margo S = opportunity cost as the main criteria to make decisions
Next genius of Infjs, intps, infps.
Indeed! I have some nice (hopefully) ideas for most of the types on this one especially ENTP, ISTP, ESFP and ESTP. ~ Nathan
I love watching your videos it really helped me to know/understand a lot about myself.🤔 But I was wondering what is your mbti personality type ?
It's funny, you're right on the precipice of understanding the INTJ, so let me give you the missing piece. We are not gatherers and not agrarians, we are the hunters of the tribe. Our purpose is to feed EVERYONE in the tribe. When you see us obsess on a subject, that is an expression of stalking our prey. And while you say we don't seek new experiences, that's not true at all. One of the most satisfying things an INTJ can do, though few are aware of this, is stalking our territory. Just going for a walk alone and sniffing out the world to see what has changed is very satisfying for us.
We function outside the hierarchies of dominance because we have to, and we are untrusting of credentials because unless one can demonstrate their abilities to us immediately, and those abilities are of practical use to us, they are a danger to us when hunting. Those little noises that make the hairs on the backs of necks stand up are our instincts telling us something, either predator or prey is nearby and we either need to pounce, fight or run like hell.
Those constructs we build are what we used to use to hunt things like mastodons with nothing but sticks, stones, fire, terrain, and ourselves. We had to figure out contingencies before trying to bring such creatures to ground, and those of us that did not, did not survive, so you have to figure the traits we have are the ones that worked and allowed us and the rest of the tribe to survive. Traits that were not beneficial to us in our roles died out. I hope this helps.
Well this is awesome! Really appreciate you leaving this comment and dropping some evolutionary knowledge bombs ~ Nathan
@@lovewho Nathan, thank you for trying to help others understand us, and build acceptance or at least tolerance for us in this world dominated by feelers and extroverts. I deeply appreciate your efforts into figuring out what makes us strange creatures tick. We are oddities, with strengths and shortcomings, like anyone, but ours tend to be more extreme. In case anyone thinks it's fun or cool to be an INTJ, please let me assure you, it is neither. We did not ask to be this way, we did not choose it, we are simply (lol, yeah right) trying to do the best with what we have, because it's all we have.
I've observed chess for a while and combined with a little bit of real-life chess playing I've learned quite a lot. I know I do not make sense, but chess can be comparable to life in so many different ways.
For instance, I compared chess pieces to real-life people. but by all means, I would never do what you think I would do with them (P.S Controlling) It simply amazes me how others can be more valuable to one person than someone else in achieving an aim in real life.
But this concept can be translated to thousands more depending on your perspective and worldview.
I think you'd be smugly pleased to know that not only have I "abstracted" ideas from chess to apply to the external world, but I do it all the time even with games like Tetris. It kind of never stops. I often have to rewind videos five times because an idea or principle pops up, I dissociate, and have no idea what people are saying until after the idea is allowed to play out.
I'm going to stop you halfway through this video and say spot on brother you nailed it I think you are an INTP and my best friend is as well can you somehow do something like Frank James I've know you've done this before 16 different personalities but combined all of the types like all in fps in one video and all INFJs one video and all enf Jay's in one video and I N G J's in the same thing talk-to-text hates me but if you're mopping what
As an INTJ I love the fact that he used Chess analogies to describe us.
Can you use subliminals to develop Cognitive functions and personality types ???
Hi . The first couple (of about five) of MBTI online tests I completed, returned a result of INTJ (strong I, moderate N, more-than-50% T and J). Naively, I thought I was INTJ. Peace.
I play chess, so I could hardcore visualize what u were saying & understanding u.
It's very interesting being an INTJ is a mostly sensing environment. I am married to an ESTJ and work with sensors. I'm a thoughtful person but I have learned to be careful of who I talk to. Many years ago, a relative told me I was a know it all. I gathered that was bad thing. So I keep to myself mostly. I was shocked to learn that most people don't want to learn anything. It seems like their narrow little worldview is good enough for them. I am a very spiritual (not religious) person and I see everything through that lens. Everything that happens, everything I do or others do means something to me. I have a huge belief system and every iota of information is entered into it, every day. INTJs build systems and I have a vast system of knowledge and belief. It keeps me sane... really. You expressed the worldview of an INTJ very, very well. Thank you.
Facts people don’t even realize how times I took Myers test looking for a different personality type to finally realize I can’t change who I am or that stay up for days lost in translation
I literally just told someone, this morning, that I get no greater joy than a “plan playing out EXACTLY as intended.” 😊
Anyone knows of ancient aliens and Philadelphia experiment
I don't but now I'm intrigued... ~ Nathan
INTJ women can be powerful Siren Seductress
The wisdom of crows
/-the insight of ravens
/-the patience of vultures
Language of man
writ in passing paws
Its look cool have a mind like this but its really f hard you never get any friends cuz they dont understand u like when u talk none have a clue what u ar saying and after a while u dont want to talk anymore and being more asocial
😢
Btw i did the test im not base on this video and think im intj
I just found your channel and subscribed. I am impressed by your delivery and clarity. You clearly know the 16 personalities, well. I appreciate the videos of all types; it's all very precise. Excellent job. - INTJ
So true holyshit
You are touching more on Joseph Campbell's work. TH-cam interviews with Bill Moyer's PBS library. Joe wrote the intro to the "Portable Jung"... You might own a copy..;)
Oh interesting, I'll check that stuff out! ~ Nathan
As an intp i really envy intjs for their ability to actually do what they imagine
INTJ head smart mastermind
INFJ head and heart smart
Going with what you talked about, something I've always admired with intj's as an infp is their ability to objectively view what they value so that they don't get bogged down in it. I am constantly making subconscious decisions through my Fi no matter how ultimately trivial and it has kept me at times from "advancing" as it were. For example, I love chess too (I'm terrible at it), and... this is so stupid... but I actually feel bad when I sacrifice a piece, so I avoid it lol, but I don't even realize I'm doing it sometimes! I've actually had the same thoughts you have about strengths and weaknesses of chess pieces, but I've always viewed it from an individualistic standpoint, where it shows how genius can be contextual. I'm reminded of that quote by Albert Einstein about judging a fish on how well he climbs a tree and there goes my Ne... anyway lol fun to compare notes with yours. And I fully support your long chess rambles
Fi in INTJ`s is mostly ideology,well at least for me.
The INTJ of the tribe would be the one who would notice for example that the river they are supplied with water is starting to get drained, therefore move to a new place
INTJs have inferior Se. This is untrue.
I know an INTJ who studied air pollution indices across an extended metropolitan region before picking a neighbourhood in which to buy a house. She has no problems with asthma or anything like that.
I'm an INTJ. I'm working on a theory related to this regarding the evolutionary benefit of the different types. SJs account for half of the human population and thank God they do--someone has to keep the world running in a way that will probably work well, if for no other reason than its worked well to do it this way so far. INTJs and INFJs are two of the rarest and the two most willing to completely change everything, willing to deal with the chaos and unintended consequences and are well practiced at figureing out how to anticipate them, in the hopes of getting something better. Like you said--this is just a problem solving strategy and these two types apply this strategy to both everyday and larger problems. The interesting thing is that they employ polar opposite strategies in order to get to that chaotic anarchy, but both are willing to go there and both are among the rarest types. I think us INTJs and INFJs are kept around by nature for those rare instances where things just need to be radically changed--for when the status quo stops working and the way of doing things need to adapt and change, and change quickly.
Imagine being an entrepreneur and your target audience, is INTJ's lmfao.
Huh?
@Cryptik he basically means the entrepreneurs whom scam people and do that shit-talk but INTJS are very analytical and they well know and be aware of the flaws in the system or the idea and start questioning it. Hope it's clear, by in INTJ
@@aw-gprecisely.
Such an accurate video thanks
Wow, you just described me. Always looking for the most universal and fundamental categories of things. I'm a counselor, so understanding how the spirit, mind, will, emotions and body are related, and what is most fundamental in their expressions is one of my passions. What you described is what I do in regard to this topic. Great work!!!. And you are clearly very insightful, piercingly so. Well done.
Hi, INTJ here. Just found your channel from an INTP friend. Thanks for not making us out to be a bunch of gloomy assholes. I guess I'll subscribe. 🙃
I feel like people who score heavily on I and N end up falling into either intj or intp or infj.. I am an INxx but im pretty balanced between F,T,J,P..
They say that Issac Asimov - scientist academic and SF author - was a INTJ. He was a childhood hero of mine (INFP)
he's my fave too
i think being an intj (that ni) is also the reason why i despise surprises. just please tell me what we are about to do, so that i can help with the planning and know what to expect.
I always hated it, when people did that.
you understand us so well! thank you for this video, as it lifted me from a depressive state. Also, that sweater looks hella comfy hehe
Brilliant summary! I'm glad you cleared up the nonsense perpetuated by misinformed TH-camrs who say we have a grand plan or even that we're evil and want to take over the world. I'm an INTJ and that certainly isn't me. Would my being very turbulent explain why in my home life I often don't plan for the future at all? At work I'm good at working on big problems and bringing them to fruition, but my anxiety stops me from planning ahead and being as creative as I could be.
Is it odd that I enjoyed your ranting about chess even though I already knew about those things?
İf you planning to make an entp video please give me a heart
I am certainly planning to make an ENTP video in this series, in fact it's the one I'm most looking forward too since I have historical examples of people (geniuses) that I'm confident are ENTPs and will be used in the video ~ Nathan
As an intj and enjoyed this.
It was incredibly insightful.
I think that's sometimes we come off cold because often, if something is irrelevant to our goal, then we literally do not care. And we aren't even sorry. We dont care that much. LOL
For example, if people just went to complain and not solve their problem, then I dont have time for that anymore.
Hmmm... There's no proof that animals are without imagination. I've seen quite the opposite, actually. (Of course I haven't finished watching the whole video, but I imagine that this idea isn't rehashed. 🙃) Just a thought
being an intj is great
Overall, the video is excellent in indescribing the workings of an INTJ brain. Many comments refer to sterotypes. They pick one thing without understanding that is not the way it really is. It's just their perspective. INTJs like all types are complex and over time can develop and grow in their weaker areas. I know depending on circumstance and area, I fall more into one type than another such as INFJ, INTP, INFP, INTJ. Humans are not robots. Simple statement. Black and white. Robot, yes or no. If humans are robots all humans are robots. Many comments use this flawed black and white paradigm.
Your second last sentence is logically flawed. There's a hidden premise. Here, I'll break it down.
"Some humans [INTJs] are all humans"
"Some humans [INTJs] are robots"
therefore, "All humans are robots"
The first one cannot be true, because the distinction between 'some' and 'all' is very necessary for proper syllogism structure.Also, taking a small sample size (statistically around 2% of the population) and applying it to the rest of the world is incorrect and a little weird. It's also simple not true. 2% is not 100%.
@@amyness3452 Yea. I was back here a just read it and said the same thing you have correctly stated. Yes, humans are falliable.
Snickers bars are objectively smaller and thinner than they were a decade ago... Yeah, "conspiracies aren't real".- intj
intj type is cool and all that , but have u ever seen us truly act with malicious intent? it´s really shoking and embarassing
We repress emotion so much that by the time we're actually pushed to that point it's typically for good reason. And we're still human; even if other types want to hold us to a higher standard.
As ~30% of MBTI types -- xNFx; xNTx, 15%/each -- are abstracting types; referring to INTJ as "The Abstractionist" is too nonspecific! 1:30 Another referent some use is "The Strategist".
Chess is a game of strategy, which is used in this video as a metaphor for how INTJ operates. This means INTJ is very good at strategy!
Feeling understood is the weirdest feeling.
If you said so in this video (which I haven't gotten to watch yet) or any other, please forgive my lack of paying enough attention in the right area. I am wondering what is your personality type, please? Because, I just found out the other two people that I understand the best - so far- who do these sort of videos are the same type as each other.
I'm a man of mystery... ~ Nathan
@@lovewho And, I am a researcher that works for a series of newspapers. Pleased to meet you.
My brother the INTJ and I the INFJ, both relish their 'aha' moments and prophetic impressions, courtesy of introverted intuition.
Brother with his expansive business acumen and ambitions connected to his logical assessment (extroverted thinking) of worldly opportunities (a vintner who owns a vineyard) whereas I the quiet grandmaster of strategy and diabolical machinations (introverted thinking).
Him, all-obsessed with what he can do for himself (introverted feeling), whereas I, self-less, put everybody else's needs ahead of my own (extroverted feeling), which is last.
Both of us can get stir-crazy as we lie trapped in our overactive minds and prescient imaginations; both realize that only escaping via (inferior) extroverted sensing -- doing things hands-on, is what saves sanity.
Lol love the humour at the beginning
I feel so validated I started crying. Thank you
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I'm an INTJ and this video was like laying out my mind to the world. Pretty scary but super accurate. Thank you. Perhaps I can use this video to help my family and friends understand me :)
the chess part was actually very relatable,.... cuz i have many times spent hours talking to an invisible someone (i do that sometimes) explaining life as a game of chess, its just such a good and accurate metaphor.
The chess thing is too philosophical and not really the typical way we think. It’s more about understanding why math, physics, and the laws of nature work, and then applying that somewhere else. The same is true of people. We notice things about certain types of people, ask if there is an inherent reason for it, and then make decisions based on that. Like why most Olympic runners are black, and most Olympic swimmers are white. We realize that certain genetic traits are more common to certain races, and that certain traits give advantage at certain physical activities, and when competing at the highest level you need every advantage you can in addition to hard work. In science we don’t just learn what works, but why it works. With that we can then apply that knowledge to other areas. There are certain things in the world that are absolute, and when you understand them you can apply them to anything else. It’s about learning the basic laws of physics, mathematics, economics, or anything else, and then extrapolating from there. The world operates of fixed rules, some more concrete than others, and understanding that helps you understand the world. There are likely a lot of INTJs that watch these videos because personally types is a valuable tool for understanding how people work. It’s a tool that really helps us understand how to better incorporate other people into our plans.