Jonny Law: My grandmother told me “I don’t care what they tell you at school, Atilla the Hun was a pacifist who liked smelling daffodils and long walks on the beach.”
I mean for goodness sake, you could even argue that it's somewhat possible with someone like Jesus. Because if Christianity is to be believed, he was sent by the creator of all humanity to save all of us. All cultures see and depict ourselves in him because identifying with him and his life is the goal. I've seen sculptures of Jesus hanging on the cross where he is visibly asian, for example. But if you want to present a documentary about who Rabbi Jesus of Nazareth really was in his own time? He'd better look and speak like an Aramaic Jew, or you're just wrong! 😂
I know. There are numerous sculptures, coins, descriptions, and even have people make what Cleopatra would look like in the modern day. I am confident she would not be rocking a huge afro.
Best part is, the last line in this series comes from the esteemed Professor Shelley who says a dark, blurred figure came to her in a dream and told her to tell this story. So her two sources that says Cleopatra was black were her grandmother and someone in a dream. Truly a great academic at work here!
Ohhhhh yeah. Poor woman seriously said that part out loud. For context, I'm a devout Christian who actually believes inspired dreams and visions are possible. I thought that was a bunch of made-up bulls**t! Like seriously, she MADE THAT ALL UP!
She could have done a 'Braveheart', which is very loose on Scottish history, but still entertaining enough that people won't complain about the inaccuracies. Saying that, Braveheart was also done in good faith, which can't be said about this...
@@RKon1995 You are so right! Braveheart WAS made in good faith, and it was never really made for the truth of the matter. Meanwhile, it is so overwhelmingly clear this was made only with the intention of stealing the story of a world renowned Egyptian cultural figure for the benefit of Afrocentric propaganda. What one might call... cultural appropriation!
All they had to do was not make it in the first place and say they're not interested in pursuing historical entrainment before making their 1100th show that addresses depression and its effects on teenagers.
Remember in 1984 when Winston was trapped in a world where people would rewrite history to their liking? And to go against that was considered harmful to their utopian society?
As an Egyptian and I am so glad the entire internet gave those clowns the reality check they desperately needed. EDIT: Just wanna add something for the clowns who claim us modern Egyptians are occupiers that have nothing to do with ancient Egyptians. Modern Egyptians are only 17% Arab according to their DNA, with the rest of modern Egyptians' genetic makeup being 68% North African, 4% Jewish, 3% East African, 3% from Asia Minor and another 3% South European. Based on DNA sequencing of Ancient Egyptian mummies. Source: National Geographic Genographic Project. Another thing to know is we do have a black minority called the Nubians residing in southern Egypt. Egyptians have a huge variety of skin colors. We're not exclusively white or black.
That last part is so intriguing for me as a German. Here, everyone that comes from a lineage that has been here for more than 200 years is just white. I find the idea super-interesting of a society that has native skin colors from white to black.
Smh. I don’t believe Cleopatra was black. And I’m black American. The Ptolemy dynasty was Greek; the Nubian dynasty was black. Cleopatra (in my opinion) was best portrayed by Elizabeth Tylor. But hey I don’t even care. It’s crazy. This documentary doesn’t represent the entire black population in America. Don’t make that mistake. Only some people adhere to these fantasies.
Always been funny to me that some fools who never learned to use Google think that Islam is an ethnicity, thinking that Arabs make up more than 80% of Egyptians today, unfathomable to them that Egyptians converted to Islam.
Saying she was black because black people were around her, would be like saying the Romanov's were slavic because there were slavs around. Royal families married other head of states, or married their own cousins. The whole monarchy thing operated with similar rules throughout history. The people who ruled over people, weren't always of the people. Literally. For anyone not understanding my Romanov comment. The Russians, Germans, French, English Kings and Queens were the same family.
Great point about the Romanovs 👍 The last emperor of Russia was only ~ 1.5% Russian. His son would've been less than 1%, because his mother was yet another German princess.
True! I'm from Bulgaria and our last Royals were German, last king's wife was from the Italian royal family. They never mixed with ordinary people or other race.This is where the expression "blue blood" comes from, but people with a short history don't know that.
The Ptolemaic dynasty was known for circulating a grand total of six names anyone could name their royal baby and they were very very incestuous. Cleopatra was most DEFINITELY not sub-Saharan African. If they wanted an incredibly fascinating black empires they could have made somsthing about Ancient Kush.
Cleopatra only got her position because Julius Ceasar took Alexandria from her younger brother, who was also her husband, and then put her in place as a vassal. After Ceasar was murdered, Antony came to town and shacked up with her, and she eagerly became his consort to keep in power while he ran the show. The role she played at Actium was to run away with her fleet and the treasury, leaving Antony high and dry to be nearly killed by Agrippa, then she sold Antony out to Octavian, but then realized that he was going to parade her through Rome for his Triumph, and she killed herself. Recap, she was a great opportunist, not a great leader of people.
Sounds pretty much like something one certain amoral, opportunistic, disrespectful Jada Pinkett304 would do, except having the balls to off herself as she should; like four decades ago.
Yeah, Cleopatra was not a warrior, nor was she an intersectional feminist! Nor was she the greatest leader ever, as she was not successful as a leader (perhaps, not her fault - but failing, even understandably, does not success make). And I’ve never heard anything suggesting she was selflessly and tirelessly working for her people, like a good caricature of a Marxist ruler! She was trying to survive and retain as much power as possible - again, understandable and normal for the times, but only a mental giant like Jada and her halfwit cronies could interpret this as they did!
"Greatest leader ever"? She wasn't even the Greatest Egyptian ruler. She wasn't even the Greatest Female Egyptian ruler. It is definitely her roman connection that holds her place in history.
She was doing parties that would cost 30 million dollars today, she was manipulating men to retain power, she fooled Julius Ceaser into killing her 14 year old brother and then killed herself when she realized she couldn't get Octavius to eat out of her hand. She's nothing more than a power hungry man eater that would use the money of the empire to feed her luxurious and bohemian life. She couldn't give 2 shits about her people.
@@digby3618 Her cultural impact is probably more significant than her historical one. Her story, with various embellishments, did make enough of an impression to become the basis of many plays, poems, and even operas over the centuries.
Her only real claim to fame is that she got involved with Caesar. If that did not happen she would just be a footnote in history like so many other rulers of so many other nations. But instead, by happenstance, she became intertwined with one of the most important events in history. And even then its not like she did anything to sway those events other than just be around. Her involvement with Caesar had little impact on where things were going and her involvement with Antony only allowed him to prolong his resistance for a short time. She really didn't do anything of historical significance other than that.
Right? Palpable cognitive dissonance there. It really annoys me when they trot out complete kooks and clowns to validate some absurd fan-fiction as scientifically accurate, because every time they do it just further undermines the credibility of science as an institution. Suggesting that history/archaeology comes down to feelings you have about fiction your grandmother told you is insulting to these fields of science and misleading to any uninformed children that might happen upon this monstrosity.
I don't care what you were taught at school nor what you perceive, see with your own eyes or know.. my grandmother told me that the Queen Elizabeth was my mother and therefore, somehow I am more deserving of the throne than Charlie 😂
This is a twisted documentary of Cleopatra by Black people. I'm Black and I don't believe that Cleopatra was Black, just as I know that those Biracial and Mixed-race actresses (Halle Berry, Stacey Dash, Meghan Markle, Zoey Zaldana, Paula Patton, Lauren London, Thandi Newton, Tessa Thompson, etc.) are not Black. For decades, there have been a lack of true representation of Black women and nearly zero hiring of Black actresses. For example: Viola Davis, Lupita Nyong'o, Alfre Woodard, Keke Palmer, Kimberly Elise, Kiki Lane, Lovie Simone, Keshia Knight Pulliam, Tika Sumpter, Skai Jackson, Regina King, Nia Long, Angela Bassett, Brandy, etc. The majority of Black women are fed up with this consistent promotion of colorism in films, especially in Black movies and films. The main problem is that Black male celebrities are the ones pushing colorism. If you notice, almost all Black male actors are paired with non-Black women in these movies and films. This is the reason you see most Black male celebrities either married to or in relationships with non-Black women, especially the White women. The world already knows that most Black males hate their own Black race of women, and they hate dark skinned, Black women. Black male celebrities (rappers and hip hoppers, athletes, actors, comedians) have been insulting and degrading Black women for decades, calling us profane and derogatory names. Also, many Black men are bleaching their skin to lighten their hue, because they worship Whiteness, which is ironic to say the least, being that most Black males covertly envy and hate White men, yet they love White women. I, personally, do not watch or support any movies/films that have Black male actors in them, except for Denzel. TBT
@@suzannekirkwood6392 This is a twisted documentary of Cleopatra by Black people. I'm Black and I don't believe that Cleopatra was Black, just as I know that those Biracial and Mixed-race actresses (Halle Berry, Stacey Dash, Meghan Markle, Zoey Zaldana, Paula Patton, Lauren London, Thandi Newton, Tessa Thompson, etc.) are not Black. For decades, there have been a lack of true representation of Black women and nearly zero hiring of Black actresses. For example: Viola Davis, Lupita Nyong'o, Alfre Woodard, Keke Palmer, Kimberly Elise, Kiki Lane, Lovie Simone, Keshia Knight Pulliam, Tika Sumpter, Skai Jackson, Regina King, Nia Long, Angela Bassett, Brandy, etc. The majority of Black women are fed up with this consistent promotion of colorism in films, especially in Black movies and films. The main problem is that Black male celebrities are the ones pushing colorism. If you notice, almost all Black male actors are paired with non-Black women in these movies and films. This is the reason you see most Black male celebrities either married to or in relationships with non-Black women, especially the White women. The world already knows that most Black males hate their own Black race of women, and they hate dark skinned, Black women. Black male celebrities (rappers and hip hoppers, athletes, actors, comedians) have been insulting and degrading Black women for decades, calling us profane and derogatory names. Also, many Black men are bleaching their skin to lighten their hue, because they worship Whiteness, which is ironic to say the least, being that most Black males covertly envy and hate White men, yet they love White women. I, personally, do not watch or support any movies/films that have Black male actors in them, except for Denzel. TBT
I've actually had one African American tourist coming out of the Cairo museum pointing at me and say to his group 'look at him. No matter how dark they get, they're still tanned whites'.. I wished I didn't know English that day 😂😂
Of the experts on this series, only one is an actual Egyptologist: Colleen Darnell, PHD(woman with 20’s haircut). I wonder if their lines were scripted or if their “interviews” were sliced together to tell the story Jada and the director wanted to tell. 🤷♀ The creators certainly had their motives for doing what they did.
She had an affair (and lately married) with her university teacher that happens to be the egyptologist responsible to giving her the diploma... Go and check it, this info is solid
@@MR.73 That’s good to know. I didn’t know much about her and her work, but the little I did see before this, I thought that she was very passionate and respectful of her specialty. yeah, I had a feeling some of the information they were sharing was used out of context to push the narrative the show’s creators wanted.
Nah man. All these people, if you look at their backgrounds, have clear, CLEAR agendas to be had. They were scouted with a very specific purpose. And honestly, that scouting was probably a simple Google query of "Egyptology, racism, intersectionality."
I'm glad this show was slapped so hard by everyone. I wish Ancient Apocalypse would have received the same treatment. I also wish Netflix would stop promoting historical revisionism.
As an Egyptian, I am not responsible for the psychological problems that African Americans suffer from. 60% of Egypt's area is on the continent of Asia, the Sinai Peninsula, Port Fouad and Port Said, and the rest of Egypt lies on the Mediterranean coast. We, Albia, Tunisia, Algeria and Morocco, the African countries bordering the Mediterranean basin are not black. And Cleopatra was the queen of Egypt and cherished her, and she was a Greek Macedonian
THAT MAY BE THE CULTURAL BACKGROUND THAT RESIDES THERE TODAY, HOWEVER NO ONE ALIVE TODAY TRULY KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT THE WAY IT WAS BACK THEN. EVERYONE IS SPECULATING, INCLUDING YOU. RELAX
My Egyptian friend… those people get all upset when they find out that there are countries in Africa named Niger and Nigeria, and even when they learn that there is a perfectly normal word to say "black" in Spanish, negro! Don't demand such an intellectual from them as to understand that Africa does not equal black!
Wait, that old woman is a professor? I thought it was a random black woman there for representation of, obviously, the black community in a Greek documentary.
I love it. It opens the way for Ryan Reynolds to depict the mighty warrior and king Shaka Zulu. We’ll finally get to see the real Shaka the way my grandma told me he was. Regardless of what the schools told us. I can’t wait. And Matt Damon as MLK. There’s a biopic I’d love to see.
If they wanted to make a funky, postmodernist tale that abstracted Cleopatra out of any real historical context and have her go on a wacky meta-adventure or whatever, they'd have been fine to cast whomever they wanted. But why did they insist on pretending they were historians and that this was a documentary??
Just discovered you , Johnny , and loved both this review and your Little mermaid review . Being very familiar with both ancient Egypt and modern Egyptian expatriates on Long Island , NY , your review here comes as such a clear , unequivocal breath of fresh air . I look forward to seeing more of your incisive , uncompromising work
Cleopatra's physical skill was noted to be in dance & horsemanship (probably not how this 'documentary' displayed them, though) - she was *not* _ever_ said to wield a sword... seriously?! She almost certainly won Caesar over with a combination of her intellect, the knowledge that her half-brother & his advisors had already raised his ire by their execution of Pompey- & the fact that she was willing to maintain her father's pro-Roman policy, not some sexy dinner (with evermore intense murmurs) that looks like the prelude to a 60's costume porno!
Of all the problems with this pile of shit "documentary", the one thing I wouldn't fault them for is oversexualising Cleopatra. If anything, I would argue that they should have cast someone younger and hotter to play the 20 year old seductress. Sure, there were political considerations at play as well, but the fact that Cleo managed to hook up with not one but two Roman almost-emperors certainly suggests that she knew how to turn heads, and that sex appeal was likely part of her overall appeal to these roman leaders. If it was just a formal alliance, they could have set that up without also taking on Cleopatra as a consort.
@@AliRadicali I would totally agree with you about the age, Cleopatra *was* only 19/ 20 when she & Caesar met (their actress couldn't pass for any younger than 25), but sex-appeal doesn't _always_ translate into the hottest woman in the room... Though I disliked immensely how she was virtually turned into a drug addict in ROME- they hit *_gold_* in the casting of Lindsay Marshall as Cleopatra- seeing a shot of her in profile, & then comparing it to the bust Cleopatra's daughter had commissioned of her mother sold it for me. I'm just sad they went with cliche & cheap-looking costumes, more akin to cosplay than the Hellenistic style more likely to be worn- & no real effort made in the hair, to do the traditional 'melon style' of the Ptolemaic royal women...
@@OcarinaSapphr- Sure, my point is not so much that I want them to find the hottest girl on onlyfans and offer her the part, that would probably look out of place and ahistorical as well. My point was that I get the feeling that the creative vandals in charge went out of their way not depict her as a seductress because they feel real insecure and defensive about the fact that many of the world's most powerful women throughout history got there by marrying/seducing an even more powerful man. And similarly for the silly afro hairdos we see in the promotional shots: They are desperate to sell her as an African queen so of course that means giant "natural hair". It would have been so easy to find a workable compromise there, because carefully managed and stylised curls were the trendy haircut in Rome throughout this period. Just make it look like an obvious perm hairdo and you could have your curly hair and call it historical.
Cleopatra was basically one of the biggest h-es in human history, She f'd 100 dudes in a single night... which is funny cause theirs girls in modern day who deada-- reach those same numbers
I don’t believe that she was ever the typical warrior of the time. If anything she might have been given basic concepts but that is incredibly unlikely.
My grandmother told me, “ I don’t care what they tell you in school, Cardi B was/is really Queen Elizabeth.” So strong, so powerful, let’s make a documentary.
My my Mom laughed at this documentary and said that Hollywood has been doing stuff like this since she was a kid. Apparently the King of the cowboys John Wayne played Genghis Khan. Google a image of that if you want to laugh.
He should never have taken or been given that part. But the main difference between this and that is that his movie always claimed to be fiction, this was claiming to be fact.
@@kakashidragon87 especially since it probably killed him, seeing as it was filmed in the Nevada not far downwind from an active US Army nuclear testing range. Many people who worked on the film later died of cancer..... but even back then people criticized the absurdity of such things.
The name of the movie is "The Conqueror" and it was a financial failure. John Wayne later regretted playing the part saying that it made him look like a dumbass. I wonder how many of these actors today who take on roles they shouldn't will say the same thing in the future.
I imagine Martin Luther King looked just like me, a Slav girl of average height and hourglass figure. Hire me, Netflix! P.S. Sending more love from Poland!
That empowering introduction 🤣🤣🤣"The polar bears were playing next to the majestic icy towers of the Arctic and...look at how iconic that bald woman is brushing her hair" - disney documentary writing room🤣
I will also add this; I would only assume they're pinning their hopes on the fact that there's something of a gap in the record on her father's mother, & questions about her mother. Her father was illegitimate, born to an unnamed concubine - he (& his brother) was sent away to the Pontic Court in his youth. His only legitimate sibling, Berenice III succeeded their father - after her death, royal advisors had the siblings brought back to Alexandria, to forestall anarchy & foreign takeover. He succeeded as Ptolemy XII Auletes, & a wife was found for him in the form of his sister, or half-sister (by a different mother) & she was elevated as Cleopatra V - his younger brother was sent to rule Cyprus, the last Ptolemaic territory. The Alexandrian Court was almost certainly a strongly Greco-Macedonian one. It was founded from the ground up as a Macedonian-Greek city (it did have a 'native' quarter, known as Rhakotis, after the original village there- & it developed a Jewish Quarter, too- but the vast majority of the people originally there would have been Macedonian & Greek settlers & veterans - the Royal (Macedonian-Greek) Quarter covered more than a third of the city, & the Royal Family had their own private harbour, for crying out loud). The ignorance of these people- to not take 5 minutes, to even look at a Wikipedia article on Ancient Greece, & see a giant-arse map showing all the places the Greeks settled; **there's a reason** the ancient world after Alexander, & before Rome's ascendancy, was known as the Hellenistic world: it was a world primarily developed by Greek influences. Long before Alexander, Greeks settled all around the Mediterranean basin (as far north as Marseilles was originally a Greek settlement known as Masillia) - Greek mercenaries found work all over the ancient world, including Egypt- & again, this was **pre-dating** Alexander's Conquest; as early as the New Kingdom era, & definitely in the Late Period- under Pharaoh Amasis, & they were rewarded with their own enclaves to settle in. Naucratis was the oldest of them, but not the only one. Just because her paternal grandmother & possibly her entire maternal line was likely not Royal Ptolemaic _does _*_not_* mean there's not still a high probability that she was predominantly Macedonian Greek in heritage. I read somewhere that there was a theory her mother was from the Egyptian priestly class (which survived the extinguishing of the Pharaohs)- even if that _were_ true (& it might go a way to justifying certain things known of her- like her learning the Egyptian language, & her affinity to Egyptian religion) - that *still* doesn't make her black- because Egyptians _weren't_ black. They themselves indicated differences in the ethnicities they observed around them- including between them, & Nubians/Kushites/ Ethiopians. The Egyptians depicted themselves with copper-coloured skin (women were often [but not always] painted with a yellower tone, as an artistic convention for the representation that most of their lives were within the home, thus they were less exposed to the sun- it didn't mean Egyptian women were a completely different skin tone to Egyptian men. At this rate, if they want to create further 'representation' in their next garbage appropriation, why not cast Native Americans as Ancient Egyptians- it won't be any more accurate, but at least it'd look good...
1:10 Shelley P. Haley (the old lady in the trailer about what her grandmother told her¿) is the Edward North Chair of Classics and Professor of Africana Studies at Hamilton College, New York, and (in 2021) President of the Society for Classical Studies. She is an "expert" in applying Black feminist and critical race approaches to the study and teaching of Classics. 2:30 Like that one piece of Lego I step on when my kids complete an incomplete set 😅
I had a hardass history teacher in high school who was completely anal about historical accuracy. He once spent ten solid minutes roasting "300". I would pay money to go back and listen to his opinions about the black Cleopatra fanfiction.
TH-camr Metatron covered this and included an overview of an actual black warrior Queen (of Kush). A great display of historical research by a lone individual which gave more verifiable data than the whole Netflix production. His channel - all 800+ videos - has now been de-monetized.
😂😂 I haven't laughed this hard at my first introduction to a creator since Dylan is in trouble! I can't wait to see the rest of your videos lol This whole situation is horrible, makes us look worse to the world and you can't change history without facts! Feelings are not facts 😅
My grandma said, "I don't care what they tell you on youtube, Jonny Law is Japanese"..... she pointed out that "Jonny Law has all kinds of Japanese goodies on his wall"..... She added, "He speaks Japanese too.... you will see the writing on his sweater..."..... LOL.....LOL.....LOL...LOL...
BUT i gotta give them a tiny spec of good job those swords were actually period correct greek or spanish. but then on the other hand that is not how you fight with any type of bladed weapon... so still idiots
Honestly, I get the feeling that "an hour of Jada Pinkett Smith SFing the remains of Cleopatra while whistling the latest Ed Sheeran tune" probably would have garnered a higher Rotten-Tomato score than this show.
I believe the old black mama saying Cleopatra was black, because for sure her grandma was a lady in waiting at Cleopatra's court in Alexandria back in the days!
I am Greek msyelf. Cleopatra was Greek because her Dynasty was from Greece. Also all of them had relationships with their family so all of them were white. Simple.
People have always said she was the most beautiful person alive at the time, too. Was there an actual reason why the casting agent picked out a bunch of plain Janes for the show? I've seen more attractive people walking the streets downtown.
Cleopatra and her family can't be black figures because they were Greeks. The Ptolemies, originated in the Greek Kingdom of Macedonia (Alexander the Great). She was just the last member of a Greek Dynasty that ruled Egypt, as other Greek Dynasties ruled Asian Kingdoms for a period (Bactria, Seleucid Empire etc) {Greek/Hellenistic period of Central Asia and North Africa}
*Cleopatra* was born in Early 69 or 70 BC. Just before Jesus (I guess). *Plutarch* was born right after in 46 AD. It's less than 120 years between them. Its not a huge difference. It's like 3-5 generations. * *Over 2,000 years later* we know pretty much exactly when/where they were born & grew up. We know what they did. We know who they were dating & their children. .... So, if we know 2100 years later, i think Plutarch had better information. His Greek great(great)-grandmom has probably seen her around. * They had coins & sculptures & paintings .... Unfortunately, a lot of stuff was destroyed 😢
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Jonny Law: My grandmother told me “I don’t care what they tell you at school, Atilla the Hun was a pacifist who liked smelling daffodils and long walks on the beach.”
I don't care what they tell you at school, Mao (Meow) was a furry
I bet there's someone whose grandma told them this Hitlar dude wasn't so bad, are we supposed to take THAT as historical fact too?
@@MariaIsabellaZNN didn't Mel Gibson state that his father didn't believe the Holocaust happened and neither did he?
I don't care what they tell you in school,Abraham Lincoln was a black communist
@Grianmarbh sheesh idk bud
“The appeal of cleopatras is that u can imagine her anyway I want” bro mixed up an Egyptian queen with masterchief
I mean for goodness sake, you could even argue that it's somewhat possible with someone like Jesus. Because if Christianity is to be believed, he was sent by the creator of all humanity to save all of us. All cultures see and depict ourselves in him because identifying with him and his life is the goal. I've seen sculptures of Jesus hanging on the cross where he is visibly asian, for example.
But if you want to present a documentary about who Rabbi Jesus of Nazareth really was in his own time? He'd better look and speak like an Aramaic Jew, or you're just wrong! 😂
" *U* can imagine anyway *I* want"
I see what you did there 😆
I misread it as "Masterchef" 😂
Lmao
I know. There are numerous sculptures, coins, descriptions, and even have people make what Cleopatra would look like in the modern day. I am confident she would not be rocking a huge afro.
Me: "After 'Velma' I don't think any other show will get such low ratings."
Netflix's Cleopatra: "Hold my beer."
Exactly my thoughts, have a like :)
It can always get worse and the hole can always go deeper
Hold my Bud Lite
Just how, it's like they are competing for lowest ratings
* hold my Miller lite
You know you fucked up when Asterix and Obelix had a more accurate depiction of Cleo’s Egypt than your documentary
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Or Xena the Warrior Princess.
Excellent comic friend 😅
Ah yes I remember that she had a very beautiful Nose.
Asterix has done more for history than Jada ever will lool
Best part is, the last line in this series comes from the esteemed Professor Shelley who says a dark, blurred figure came to her in a dream and told her to tell this story. So her two sources that says Cleopatra was black were her grandmother and someone in a dream. Truly a great academic at work here!
Ohhhhh yeah. Poor woman seriously said that part out loud. For context, I'm a devout Christian who actually believes inspired dreams and visions are possible.
I thought that was a bunch of made-up bulls**t! Like seriously, she MADE THAT ALL UP!
That fortnight song is hilarious.
Professor Shelley should not be allowed anywhere near a classroom!
@@bsquared5378 Should have her teaching licence revoked too.
She mistakes her paralysis demons as God. Jesus help her.
All she had to do was not call it a documentary. Just say it was a fake story so it can just be a boring show and not blatant lying
It'll probably still get the same low scores and they'll call people bigots and racist for review bombing it... LOL
She could have done a 'Braveheart', which is very loose on Scottish history, but still entertaining enough that people won't complain about the inaccuracies.
Saying that, Braveheart was also done in good faith, which can't be said about this...
But if she did that how can they claim money and pity points from Egypt?
@@RKon1995
You are so right! Braveheart WAS made in good faith, and it was never really made for the truth of the matter.
Meanwhile, it is so overwhelmingly clear this was made only with the intention of stealing the story of a world renowned Egyptian cultural figure for the benefit of Afrocentric propaganda. What one might call... cultural appropriation!
All they had to do was not make it in the first place and say they're not interested in pursuing historical entrainment before making their 1100th show that addresses depression and its effects on teenagers.
Remember in 1984 when Winston was trapped in a world where people would rewrite history to their liking? And to go against that was considered harmful to their utopian society?
*Dystopian
Oh yes, I think of this often!
My favourite part is where Cleopatra frees the slaves of Cairo and they chant ''Mhysa Mhysa " and raise her up onto their shoulders
Netflix: Cleopatra was black
Ptolemaic dynasty family tree: Am I joke to you?
Can we REALLY call it a tree, all things considered? 😂
In all seriousness, it's baffling that this got made like this
@@ruthiehenshallfan99 it is a DAG (directed acyclic graph)
egypt as a whole you mean lol
@@ruthiehenshallfan99 the family Lovecraftian mass
its more like a family stick, not a tree lol
When Asterix and Obelix in Egypt is more accurate than a documentary.
"It's Will Smith's husband"... can't stop laughing at that one...
As an Egyptian and I am so glad the entire internet gave those clowns the reality check they desperately needed.
EDIT: Just wanna add something for the clowns who claim us modern Egyptians are occupiers that have nothing to do with ancient Egyptians.
Modern Egyptians are only 17% Arab according to their DNA, with the rest of modern Egyptians' genetic makeup being 68% North African, 4% Jewish, 3% East African, 3% from Asia Minor and another 3% South European. Based on DNA sequencing of Ancient Egyptian mummies.
Source: National Geographic Genographic Project.
Another thing to know is we do have a black minority called the Nubians residing in southern Egypt. Egyptians have a huge variety of skin colors. We're not exclusively white or black.
That last part is so intriguing for me as a German. Here, everyone that comes from a lineage that has been here for more than 200 years is just white. I find the idea super-interesting of a society that has native skin colors from white to black.
Smh. I don’t believe Cleopatra was black. And I’m black American. The Ptolemy dynasty was Greek; the Nubian dynasty was black. Cleopatra (in my opinion) was best portrayed by Elizabeth Tylor. But hey I don’t even care. It’s crazy. This documentary doesn’t represent the entire black population in America. Don’t make that mistake. Only some people adhere to these fantasies.
Always been funny to me that some fools who never learned to use Google think that Islam is an ethnicity, thinking that Arabs make up more than 80% of Egyptians today, unfathomable to them that Egyptians converted to Islam.
Egypt has been occupied by damn near everybody at some point, it's probably one of the most diverse places in History.
@Alice S Was Ancient Greece inhabited by all white people?
Saying she was black because black people were around her, would be like saying the Romanov's were slavic because there were slavs around. Royal families married other head of states, or married their own cousins. The whole monarchy thing operated with similar rules throughout history. The people who ruled over people, weren't always of the people. Literally. For anyone not understanding my Romanov comment. The Russians, Germans, French, English Kings and Queens were the same family.
Inbred
Great point about the Romanovs 👍 The last emperor of Russia was only ~ 1.5% Russian. His son would've been less than 1%, because his mother was yet another German princess.
Poland is the same. The First FEMALE King of Poland is actually HUNGARIAN. No wonder they're BFFs all the damn time
Lmao, the Romanovs did present themselves as slavs tho)))
True! I'm from Bulgaria and our last Royals were German, last king's wife was from the Italian royal family. They never mixed with ordinary people or other race.This is where the expression "blue blood" comes from, but people with a short history don't know that.
Worst part is that they skipped the parts where she killed her family
Not in line with the messagge of a powerful and empowered black queen
Did they tell the part where Caesar married her off to her 10 year old brother?
worse they try to justify her killing of family and other immoral/unethical choices as "she had no choice" and "the men were out to get her"
@@stsk1061 Interesting Fact: She would have that younger brother assassinated sometime afterwards.
@@declanjones8888She sounds like a lovely lady 😬
The Ptolemaic dynasty was known for circulating a grand total of six names anyone could name their royal baby and they were very very incestuous. Cleopatra was most DEFINITELY not sub-Saharan African.
If they wanted an incredibly fascinating black empires they could have made somsthing about Ancient Kush.
or any tribal folklore stories must have been a lot of those
and most of the cast are nibbaz
I would have loved a documentary on the medjay if they wanted to portray there message
or do one about ghana, mali, or songhai? you know the important gold trading west african nations???
MANSA MUSA!
Cleopatra only got her position because Julius Ceasar took Alexandria from her younger brother, who was also her husband, and then put her in place as a vassal. After Ceasar was murdered, Antony came to town and shacked up with her, and she eagerly became his consort to keep in power while he ran the show. The role she played at Actium was to run away with her fleet and the treasury, leaving Antony high and dry to be nearly killed by Agrippa, then she sold Antony out to Octavian, but then realized that he was going to parade her through Rome for his Triumph, and she killed herself. Recap, she was a great opportunist, not a great leader of people.
Not so different from leaders today - thecstaying in power bit
Sounds pretty much like something one certain amoral, opportunistic, disrespectful Jada Pinkett304 would do, except having the balls to off herself as she should; like four decades ago.
My grandmother told me "Whatever Jada Pinkett Smith is telling you, believe the opposite."
Yeah, Cleopatra was not a warrior, nor was she an intersectional feminist! Nor was she the greatest leader ever, as she was not successful as a leader (perhaps, not her fault - but failing, even understandably, does not success make). And I’ve never heard anything suggesting she was selflessly and tirelessly working for her people, like a good caricature of a Marxist ruler! She was trying to survive and retain as much power as possible - again, understandable and normal for the times, but only a mental giant like Jada and her halfwit cronies could interpret this as they did!
You don't understand: She was a black woman. Therefore she must have been perfect in every way. How do you not get this yet?
"Greatest leader ever"?
She wasn't even the Greatest Egyptian ruler.
She wasn't even the Greatest Female Egyptian ruler.
It is definitely her roman connection that holds her place in history.
She was doing parties that would cost 30 million dollars today, she was manipulating men to retain power, she fooled Julius Ceaser into killing her 14 year old brother and then killed herself when she realized she couldn't get Octavius to eat out of her hand.
She's nothing more than a power hungry man eater that would use the money of the empire to feed her luxurious and bohemian life.
She couldn't give 2 shits about her people.
@@digby3618 Her cultural impact is probably more significant than her historical one. Her story, with various embellishments, did make enough of an impression to become the basis of many plays, poems, and even operas over the centuries.
Her only real claim to fame is that she got involved with Caesar. If that did not happen she would just be a footnote in history like so many other rulers of so many other nations. But instead, by happenstance, she became intertwined with one of the most important events in history. And even then its not like she did anything to sway those events other than just be around. Her involvement with Caesar had little impact on where things were going and her involvement with Antony only allowed him to prolong his resistance for a short time. She really didn't do anything of historical significance other than that.
Loved the bit where a guy who was 150 years after cleopatra knew less than a grandma over a thousand years later😂
Right? Palpable cognitive dissonance there.
It really annoys me when they trot out complete kooks and clowns to validate some absurd fan-fiction as scientifically accurate, because every time they do it just further undermines the credibility of science as an institution. Suggesting that history/archaeology comes down to feelings you have about fiction your grandmother told you is insulting to these fields of science and misleading to any uninformed children that might happen upon this monstrosity.
My granny always told me: "I don't care what they told you in school, Luke and Leia totally did it."
Little gremlins: "But Granny, didn't Leia say she somehow knew it all along?"
Granny: "Twincest is wincest, sweetie."
They did in my head canon.
Me: OK grandma, I don't need to hear the fanfiction you wrote in 1981
Grandma: It was 1985
Me: ....
I don't care what you were taught at school nor what you perceive, see with your own eyes or know.. my grandmother told me that the Queen Elizabeth was my mother and therefore, somehow I am more deserving of the throne than Charlie 😂
Lucky!
"This one has the same silhouette as my penis." caught me off guard 😂😂😂
Gotta say 100% increase in the audience score is impressive, congratulation to everyone involved in the show you really deserved it
I heard it scored lower than Milf Manor 😅
@@suzannekirkwood6392 damn when you're lower than dumpster fire that's saying something 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@suzannekirkwood6392 its ratings make that crap look like it was solid gold, MM's ratings were 22x higher lol
This is a twisted documentary of Cleopatra by Black people. I'm Black and I don't believe that Cleopatra was Black, just as I know that those Biracial and Mixed-race actresses (Halle Berry, Stacey Dash, Meghan Markle, Zoey Zaldana, Paula Patton, Lauren London, Thandi Newton, Tessa Thompson, etc.) are not Black. For decades, there have been a lack of true representation of Black women and nearly zero hiring of Black actresses. For example: Viola Davis, Lupita Nyong'o, Alfre Woodard, Keke Palmer, Kimberly Elise, Kiki Lane, Lovie Simone, Keshia Knight Pulliam, Tika Sumpter, Skai Jackson, Regina King, Nia Long, Angela Bassett, Brandy, etc. The majority of Black women are fed up with this consistent promotion of colorism in films, especially in Black movies and films. The main problem is that Black male celebrities are the ones pushing colorism. If you notice, almost all Black male actors are paired with non-Black women in these movies and films. This is the reason you see most Black male celebrities either married to or in relationships with non-Black women, especially the White women. The world already knows that most Black males hate their own Black race of women, and they hate dark skinned, Black women. Black male celebrities (rappers and hip hoppers, athletes, actors, comedians) have been insulting and degrading Black women for decades, calling us profane and derogatory names. Also, many Black men are bleaching their skin to lighten their hue, because they worship Whiteness, which is ironic to say the least, being that most Black males covertly envy and hate White men, yet they love White women. I, personally, do not watch or support any movies/films that have Black male actors in them, except for Denzel. TBT
@@suzannekirkwood6392 This is a twisted documentary of Cleopatra by Black people. I'm Black and I don't believe that Cleopatra was Black, just as I know that those Biracial and Mixed-race actresses (Halle Berry, Stacey Dash, Meghan Markle, Zoey Zaldana, Paula Patton, Lauren London, Thandi Newton, Tessa Thompson, etc.) are not Black. For decades, there have been a lack of true representation of Black women and nearly zero hiring of Black actresses. For example: Viola Davis, Lupita Nyong'o, Alfre Woodard, Keke Palmer, Kimberly Elise, Kiki Lane, Lovie Simone, Keshia Knight Pulliam, Tika Sumpter, Skai Jackson, Regina King, Nia Long, Angela Bassett, Brandy, etc. The majority of Black women are fed up with this consistent promotion of colorism in films, especially in Black movies and films. The main problem is that Black male celebrities are the ones pushing colorism. If you notice, almost all Black male actors are paired with non-Black women in these movies and films. This is the reason you see most Black male celebrities either married to or in relationships with non-Black women, especially the White women. The world already knows that most Black males hate their own Black race of women, and they hate dark skinned, Black women. Black male celebrities (rappers and hip hoppers, athletes, actors, comedians) have been insulting and degrading Black women for decades, calling us profane and derogatory names. Also, many Black men are bleaching their skin to lighten their hue, because they worship Whiteness, which is ironic to say the least, being that most Black males covertly envy and hate White men, yet they love White women. I, personally, do not watch or support any movies/films that have Black male actors in them, except for Denzel. TBT
I've actually had one African American tourist coming out of the Cairo museum pointing at me and say to his group 'look at him. No matter how dark they get, they're still tanned whites'.. I wished I didn't know English that day 😂😂
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Well he's right but that doesn't change the fact that Ancient Egyptians were tanned Whites.
@@gideonros2705 well the way he was laughing and smirking made it sound like we're not native to the land
Velma ~ ‘I’m the Most Hated Series on television!”
Cleopatra ~ ‘… Hold my Bud Light…”
Of the experts on this series, only one is an actual Egyptologist: Colleen Darnell, PHD(woman with 20’s haircut). I wonder if their lines were scripted or if their “interviews” were sliced together to tell the story Jada and the director wanted to tell. 🤷♀ The creators certainly had their motives for doing what they did.
Probably just the typical champagne socialists
She had an affair (and lately married) with her university teacher that happens to be the egyptologist responsible to giving her the diploma... Go and check it, this info is solid
She messaged Zahi Hawass and apologized to him .saying she was asked to talk about Cleopatra .and didn't know about "the black Cleopatra"
@@MR.73 That’s good to know. I didn’t know much about her and her work, but the little I did see before this, I thought that she was very passionate and respectful of her specialty. yeah, I had a feeling some of the information they were sharing was used out of context to push the narrative the show’s creators wanted.
Nah man. All these people, if you look at their backgrounds, have clear, CLEAR agendas to be had. They were scouted with a very specific purpose.
And honestly, that scouting was probably a simple Google query of "Egyptology, racism, intersectionality."
I'm kind of surprised Jada didn't also make Cleopatra bald, with a famous consort who punched another Pharoah when he publicly dissed her.
I can't wait to tell my grandchildren "I don't care what Netflix and Captain Alopecia tell you, Cleopatra WASN'T Black"
I can't get past alopecia.....am dying
I cant believe anything could beat out Rings of Power for lowest audience rates
Velma as well.
There is always a new low
@@jurgenparkour9337 somebody call james cameron, he needs to raise the bar
It's like "man if we can't create anything great, why not make the worst? Oh well" 😂
I'm glad this show was slapped so hard by everyone. I wish Ancient Apocalypse would have received the same treatment.
I also wish Netflix would stop promoting historical revisionism.
You know its bad when Velma has a higher score.
Man, I hope it ends with her saying she's Cleopatra Skywalker because that's how it feels like it will end.
As an Egyptian, I am not responsible for the psychological problems that African Americans suffer from. 60% of Egypt's area is on the continent of Asia, the Sinai Peninsula, Port Fouad and Port Said, and the rest of Egypt lies on the Mediterranean coast. We, Albia, Tunisia, Algeria and Morocco, the African countries bordering the Mediterranean basin are not black. And Cleopatra was the queen of Egypt and cherished her, and she was a Greek Macedonian
THAT MAY BE THE CULTURAL BACKGROUND THAT RESIDES THERE TODAY, HOWEVER NO ONE ALIVE TODAY TRULY KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT THE WAY IT WAS BACK THEN. EVERYONE IS SPECULATING, INCLUDING YOU. RELAX
My Egyptian friend… those people get all upset when they find out that there are countries in Africa named Niger and Nigeria, and even when they learn that there is a perfectly normal word to say "black" in Spanish, negro! Don't demand such an intellectual from them as to understand that Africa does not equal black!
Wait, that old woman is a professor? I thought it was a random black woman there for representation of, obviously, the black community in a Greek documentary.
Well I know where Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith are not going for a vacation this year
Jada is probably going with her sons best mate 😂
Good to see you back just in time to review the car crash that is Cleopatra so I don't have to! Welcome back Jonny!
I love it. It opens the way for Ryan Reynolds to depict the mighty warrior and king Shaka Zulu. We’ll finally get to see the real Shaka the way my grandma told me he was. Regardless of what the schools told us. I can’t wait.
And Matt Damon as MLK. There’s a biopic I’d love to see.
matt damon lmao
Do they really believe that imagining cleopatra to look like you is the same as predicting her appearance?
If they wanted to make a funky, postmodernist tale that abstracted Cleopatra out of any real historical context and have her go on a wacky meta-adventure or whatever, they'd have been fine to cast whomever they wanted. But why did they insist on pretending they were historians and that this was a documentary??
Haha I don't blame you for not watching anymore than you did! It really looks more like "Cringe! - A mockumentary"
I played Battlefield 2042 instead because it's as close to Cleo's history as this show is.
You are so brave to sit through that garbage. I could not even try.
Just discovered you , Johnny , and loved both this review and your Little mermaid review . Being very familiar with both ancient Egypt and modern Egyptian expatriates on Long Island , NY , your review here comes as such a clear , unequivocal breath of fresh air . I look forward to seeing more of your incisive , uncompromising work
Cleopatra's physical skill was noted to be in dance & horsemanship (probably not how this 'documentary' displayed them, though) - she was *not* _ever_ said to wield a sword... seriously?!
She almost certainly won Caesar over with a combination of her intellect, the knowledge that her half-brother & his advisors had already raised his ire by their execution of Pompey- & the fact that she was willing to maintain her father's pro-Roman policy, not some sexy dinner (with evermore intense murmurs) that looks like the prelude to a 60's costume porno!
Of all the problems with this pile of shit "documentary", the one thing I wouldn't fault them for is oversexualising Cleopatra. If anything, I would argue that they should have cast someone younger and hotter to play the 20 year old seductress. Sure, there were political considerations at play as well, but the fact that Cleo managed to hook up with not one but two Roman almost-emperors certainly suggests that she knew how to turn heads, and that sex appeal was likely part of her overall appeal to these roman leaders. If it was just a formal alliance, they could have set that up without also taking on Cleopatra as a consort.
@@AliRadicali
I would totally agree with you about the age, Cleopatra *was* only 19/ 20 when she & Caesar met (their actress couldn't pass for any younger than 25), but sex-appeal doesn't _always_ translate into the hottest woman in the room...
Though I disliked immensely how she was virtually turned into a drug addict in ROME- they hit *_gold_* in the casting of Lindsay Marshall as Cleopatra- seeing a shot of her in profile, & then comparing it to the bust Cleopatra's daughter had commissioned of her mother sold it for me.
I'm just sad they went with cliche & cheap-looking costumes, more akin to cosplay than the Hellenistic style more likely to be worn- & no real effort made in the hair, to do the traditional 'melon style' of the Ptolemaic royal women...
@@OcarinaSapphr- Sure, my point is not so much that I want them to find the hottest girl on onlyfans and offer her the part, that would probably look out of place and ahistorical as well. My point was that I get the feeling that the creative vandals in charge went out of their way not depict her as a seductress because they feel real insecure and defensive about the fact that many of the world's most powerful women throughout history got there by marrying/seducing an even more powerful man.
And similarly for the silly afro hairdos we see in the promotional shots: They are desperate to sell her as an African queen so of course that means giant "natural hair". It would have been so easy to find a workable compromise there, because carefully managed and stylised curls were the trendy haircut in Rome throughout this period. Just make it look like an obvious perm hairdo and you could have your curly hair and call it historical.
Cleopatra was basically one of the biggest h-es in human history, She f'd 100 dudes in a single night... which is funny cause theirs girls in modern day who deada-- reach those same numbers
I don’t believe that she was ever the typical warrior of the time. If anything she might have been given basic concepts but that is incredibly unlikely.
My grandmother told me, “ I don’t care what they tell you in school, Cardi B was/is really Queen Elizabeth.” So strong, so powerful, let’s make a documentary.
Dude. I just found your channel when I was trying to find info about The Witcher. You are hilarious and I am all here for it. Lol
"In my world everyone is a pony and the eat rainbows and poop butterflys"- Katie (from horton hears a who.)
The fact that you used a parody of "Pearl's Rap Career" has my sides hurting XD.
My my Mom laughed at this documentary and said that Hollywood has been doing stuff like this since she was a kid. Apparently the King of the cowboys John Wayne played Genghis Khan. Google a image of that if you want to laugh.
He should never have taken or been given that part. But the main difference between this and that is that his movie always claimed to be fiction, this was claiming to be fact.
@@kakashidragon87 especially since it probably killed him, seeing as it was filmed in the Nevada not far downwind from an active US Army nuclear testing range. Many people who worked on the film later died of cancer.....
but even back then people criticized the absurdity of such things.
The name of the movie is "The Conqueror" and it was a financial failure. John Wayne later regretted playing the part saying that it made him look like a dumbass. I wonder how many of these actors today who take on roles they shouldn't will say the same thing in the future.
I think the Netflix crew wanted to have this ride off the success of the Warrior Queen... It backfired horribly haha
I imagine Martin Luther King looked just like me, a Slav girl of average height and hourglass figure. Hire me, Netflix!
P.S. Sending more love from Poland!
That empowering introduction 🤣🤣🤣"The polar bears were playing next to the majestic icy towers of the Arctic and...look at how iconic that bald woman is brushing her hair" - disney documentary writing room🤣
Did you see the poster someone sent around - it’s a picture of black bears, with the caption: Polar Bears, a Netflix Documentary.
@@alexfriedman918 Yes I did, and loved every moment of it🤣
10:06 because Egypt’s never had a civil war, we’re gonna conveniently forget that CLEOPATRA fought one with her Brother/Husband
I will also add this; I would only assume they're pinning their hopes on the fact that there's something of a gap in the record on her father's mother, & questions about her mother.
Her father was illegitimate, born to an unnamed concubine - he (& his brother) was sent away to the Pontic Court in his youth. His only legitimate sibling, Berenice III succeeded their father - after her death, royal advisors had the siblings brought back to Alexandria, to forestall anarchy & foreign takeover.
He succeeded as Ptolemy XII Auletes, & a wife was found for him in the form of his sister, or half-sister (by a different mother) & she was elevated as Cleopatra V - his younger brother was sent to rule Cyprus, the last Ptolemaic territory.
The Alexandrian Court was almost certainly a strongly Greco-Macedonian one. It was founded from the ground up as a Macedonian-Greek city (it did have a 'native' quarter, known as Rhakotis, after the original village there- & it developed a Jewish Quarter, too- but the vast majority of the people originally there would have been Macedonian & Greek settlers & veterans - the Royal (Macedonian-Greek) Quarter covered more than a third of the city, & the Royal Family had their own private harbour, for crying out loud).
The ignorance of these people- to not take 5 minutes, to even look at a Wikipedia article on Ancient Greece, & see a giant-arse map showing all the places the Greeks settled; **there's a reason** the ancient world after Alexander, & before Rome's ascendancy, was known as the Hellenistic world: it was a world primarily developed by Greek influences.
Long before Alexander, Greeks settled all around the Mediterranean basin (as far north as Marseilles was originally a Greek settlement known as Masillia) - Greek mercenaries found work all over the ancient world, including Egypt- & again, this was **pre-dating** Alexander's Conquest; as early as the New Kingdom era, & definitely in the Late Period- under Pharaoh Amasis, & they were rewarded with their own enclaves to settle in. Naucratis was the oldest of them, but not the only one.
Just because her paternal grandmother & possibly her entire maternal line was likely not Royal Ptolemaic _does _*_not_* mean there's not still a high probability that she was predominantly Macedonian Greek in heritage.
I read somewhere that there was a theory her mother was from the Egyptian priestly class (which survived the extinguishing of the Pharaohs)- even if that _were_ true (& it might go a way to justifying certain things known of her- like her learning the Egyptian language, & her affinity to Egyptian religion) - that *still* doesn't make her black- because Egyptians _weren't_ black.
They themselves indicated differences in the ethnicities they observed around them- including between them, & Nubians/Kushites/ Ethiopians.
The Egyptians depicted themselves with copper-coloured skin (women were often [but not always] painted with a yellower tone, as an artistic convention for the representation that most of their lives were within the home, thus they were less exposed to the sun- it didn't mean Egyptian women were a completely different skin tone to Egyptian men.
At this rate, if they want to create further 'representation' in their next garbage appropriation, why not cast Native Americans as Ancient Egyptians- it won't be any more accurate, but at least it'd look good...
1:10 Shelley P. Haley (the old lady in the trailer about what her grandmother told her¿) is the Edward North Chair of Classics and Professor of Africana Studies at Hamilton College, New York, and (in 2021) President of the Society for Classical Studies. She is an "expert" in applying Black feminist and critical race approaches to the study and teaching of Classics.
2:30 Like that one piece of Lego I step on when my kids complete an incomplete set 😅
So that old African hag is full of crap! thanks for that!
So she's not an actually an expert on Egypt. Why is she even in the documentary?
I had a hardass history teacher in high school who was completely anal about historical accuracy. He once spent ten solid minutes roasting "300". I would pay money to go back and listen to his opinions about the black Cleopatra fanfiction.
Granny would have failed her history class. This is not a documentary.. the writers have lost their minds.
Where can I find the rest of the clip of the guy saying “people are without hair.”??? I must see the full clip!!
Well to be fair Ancient Aliens is on the History Channel.
wait is ancient aliens a documentary?
Ancient Astronaut Theorists say, "yes!"
TH-camr Metatron covered this and included an overview of an actual black warrior Queen (of Kush). A great display of historical research by a lone individual which gave more verifiable data than the whole Netflix production. His channel - all 800+ videos - has now been de-monetized.
If I was drinking water when you said Will Smith's husband I would have spit it all over! 😂😂😂
She was related to one of Alexander the Great's generals she was part southern European for sure. And i thought Egyptian people where Brown not Black🤷
the sad thing is that looney little lady gets to teach in a university
😂😂 I haven't laughed this hard at my first introduction to a creator since Dylan is in trouble! I can't wait to see the rest of your videos lol
This whole situation is horrible, makes us look worse to the world and you can't change history without facts! Feelings are not facts 😅
7:47 the guy imagines Cleopatra to be him 😂
It's Netflix...and nothing more needs to be said
Jezz, I listened to this like a podcast and hadn't realized their was an Ad for Charmin toilet paper.
I thought it was a part of his skit...
My grandma said, "I don't care what they tell you on youtube, Jonny Law is Japanese"..... she pointed out that "Jonny Law has all kinds of Japanese goodies on his wall"..... She added, "He speaks Japanese too.... you will see the writing on his sweater..."..... LOL.....LOL.....LOL...LOL...
And why was she fighting a 7-8th century Moorish Muslim in that little arena? xD
BUT i gotta give them a tiny spec of good job those swords were actually period correct greek or spanish. but then on the other hand that is not how you fight with any type of bladed weapon... so still idiots
It was in one of the stories grandma told.
The algorithm gods led me here and I must say this is the most entertaining of the Cleopatra videos I have watched. Good on ya m8. Subbed.
Honestly, I get the feeling that "an hour of Jada Pinkett Smith SFing the remains of Cleopatra while whistling the latest Ed Sheeran tune" probably would have garnered a higher Rotten-Tomato score than this show.
9:05 you know the score would higher if they chose that song
My father's brother's nephew's cousin's former room mate told me that Shaka Zulu was a white Irishman.
Best thing about Cleopatra: Johnny uploads 😍
@jonnylaw Have you thought about stand-up comedy? Every episode you Crack me up. Keep up the great work.
I do not remember I ever seen on IMDB both 1.0 score by reviewers and audience same....
That's not The Queen of Egipt, but The Queen of Bel Air 😕
I believe the old black mama saying Cleopatra was black, because for sure her grandma was a lady in waiting at Cleopatra's court in Alexandria back in the days!
7:40.....wtf? She is a historical person. Wtf is this?
Ayeee its Johnny
Missed you my man. Wish you did more skits. Loved your previous ones
My granny told me, no matter what they say, Martin Luther King was a Chinese Trans woman. 🙄
This is an accurate documentary of Cleopatra just like Planet of the Apes is an accurate portrayal of current life today.
The funniest thing is that they still made her pretty despite the fact that she wasn't
She's like Kamala Harris, people don't keep her around for her looks or startling intellect
"Velma" got a better Rotten Tomato score🤣🤣🤣
1.1 on imdb have never seen anything that low.
How could anything be worse than Velma?
I am Greek msyelf. Cleopatra was Greek because her Dynasty was from Greece. Also all of them had relationships with their family so all of them were white. Simple.
My grandmother told me “I don’t care what they tell you at school, Neil Armstrong, the first person to walk on the moon was a woman.”
"It's not quite fan-fiction"
I have a bad feeling that the word you're looking for may be propaganda
I have also been battling my Zelda addiction, my brother. May the sages be with you.
Btw she wouldn't ride a horse either! Chariot would be used. That's In addition to your point about her direct fighting.
I never knew she was Macedonian until the Netflix garbage, I thought she was Egyptian, now I know and firmly believe, nothing will change my mind.
I can accept a Black Cleopatra as long as they'll accept a Chinese Malcolm X.
Can't wait for the documentation about H1tler, where he's a black man that draws beautiful pictures of the sunset.
People have always said she was the most beautiful person alive at the time, too. Was there an actual reason why the casting agent picked out a bunch of plain Janes for the show? I've seen more attractive people walking the streets downtown.
Cleopatra and her family can't be black figures because they were Greeks. The Ptolemies, originated in the Greek Kingdom of Macedonia (Alexander the Great). She was just the last member of a Greek Dynasty that ruled Egypt, as other Greek Dynasties ruled Asian Kingdoms for a period (Bactria, Seleucid Empire etc)
{Greek/Hellenistic period of Central Asia and North Africa}
that joke at 6:40 made me screw up my model painting you bastard. I need to stop trying to warhammer while I watch these
8:58-9:05 Probably the best 8 seconds on youtube.
I wonder if they talk about how she revolted against her brother for the thrown
*Cleopatra* was born in Early 69 or 70 BC.
Just before Jesus (I guess).
*Plutarch* was born right after in 46 AD.
It's less than 120 years between them.
Its not a huge difference.
It's like 3-5 generations.
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*Over 2,000 years later* we know pretty much exactly when/where they were born & grew up.
We know what they did.
We know who they were dating & their children.
....
So, if we know 2100 years later, i think Plutarch had better information.
His Greek great(great)-grandmom has probably seen her around.
* They had coins & sculptures & paintings ....
Unfortunately, a lot of stuff was destroyed 😢