Volkswagen Atlas 2021, TSI 2.0T EA888. Knocking, ticking, tapping, clicking noise on cold start.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 เม.ย. 2022
- On cold start, when engine revs go down, the knocking noise starts to hear. Brand new engine oil: VW original oil 0w30. Car mileage: 4660 mile/7500km.
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I have a 2019 GLI with the same engine. It’s fine this since I bought the car. Still runnin fine 🤷♂️
I have brand new Audi S3 with 1400 km on the odometer right now. The tapping is also here.
The EA888 sub notes if you hear a weird noise its normal 🤷🏻😂
My Tiguan makes the same noise. Listen to that noise from under the car. Most of the noise is heard from under the car, where the transmission is attached to the engine. The torque converter is most likely the source of the noise.
Hi, is your car automatic or manual?
Well, I would say automatic as you say torque converter... my Audi A5 with same engine and noise has manual gearbox so chances that my dual flywheel and your torque converter are making same noise are... however noise is coming from that side of the engine🤷♂️
@@wojciechhanus1017 The dual-mass flywheel can make similar noise as the torque converter. As stated in this video, the same technology is used in the dual mass flywheel and in the torque converter. th-cam.com/video/YRxrajJCLr0/w-d-xo.html
@@atdr2130 Thanks for the link as I found it very interesiting and new to me however still do not explain why some cars expierience these noises as low as 4500-18000 miles or 64000 when I first noitced at mine? Why noise last only for so short period of time and goes away once engine start to warms up but too quick for gearbox/clutch to warm up with the engine? Also around 0°C outside I can hardly here but as it is warmer outside it is more noticeable... I have also noticed that if you unplug piston jet oil cooling valve (the one just underneeth the oil filter) this noise do not occure almost indicating the oil preassure issue... however I have checked oil pressure with gauage and it is as it should and no light on dashboard and/or error codes... Mind blowing and year, many parts and loads of money later I'm still not sure what cause this tapping noise...🤷♂️🤦♂️
@@wojciechhanus1017 The noise in my Tiguan started when it was only about 500 miles, now it has 5000 miles and the noise is noticeable even when the car is fully warmed up. In my case the problem is definitely in the torque converter.
Does the engine rpm change when the piston oil cooling valve is unplugged? I think it should be disabled by default when the engine is cold and activated when the engine warms up.
My 2018 A5 2.0T makes the same noise and I was alarmed when I first heard it. I also have a 2017 Alltrack with the gen 3 1.8 and it’s never made this noise.
Hi, so I took my car to the dealership from witch I bought the car. After inspection they confirmed that the noise is not ok and is coming from the timing chain. They ordered the cam intake and timing chain tensioner. Parts are back ordered so I'm waiting for their call. Hope this info will help you.
To a5 it's normal.
To audi a5 that noise it 's normal when is cold at the first start
@@memphismemphiss4058 It’s not normal at all. Can’t you hear the timing is inconsistent while running? It is skipping the teeth in the timing chain system. It even sounds like the pistons aren’t fairing to well either.
Timing chain tick is common on 2.0 T engines. I have a mk6 gti and will be replacing the chain soon as it’s about to reach 100,000 kms.
I can say that after the engine gets to the normal temperature (100-109C), that noise is still there but not so proeminent, I still hear the noise in the background at the lower volume.
Hi everyone. No updates. I'm still waiting for the call from the dealership.
i searched for this problem for my 2018 golf r...the more the exterior temperature goes down the more longer and louder it does it...when its hot it last 30sec but cold like minus 20c it can take almost 5 min to start to get less loud...i checked my friend 2016 r and another 2021 gti and they all do it...the gti is even louder than mine...so for now its normal to me..even asked a audi technician and all the 4cyl direct injected engine are loud...they replaced a head/cam/lifter rocker on a a3 and its still doing it
i have a same knocking noise on my 2019 wv atlas .....
it only 81k mile and i buy from Sheehy of WV and i brought a VIP PASS do they cover it?
Will a extended warranty cover this? I have a 2019 Tiguan with 90k miles and it recently started making that exact knocking type noise during a spring break trip last week. It runs fine but that noise wasn’t here before or at least it wasn’t that loud where I noticed it at all.
It should, basic warranty on engine in Canada is 5 years or 100.000km
Hi everyone. Bad news, after the repair made by dealership the issue still persists. They replaced a bunch of parts (15 parts) and did some adjustments, and still the ticking noise is there, no changes at all at the cold start. The repair report is in french. P.S. The loaner car that I have used during the repair was a brand new Tiguan, and you know what, brand new car makes the same ticking noise, sometimes randomly not only at the cold start, so my conclusion: this is a common issue for all 2021 and up EA888 2.0T engines.
This noise is not from the engine, listen to it from under the car. This noise comes from the torque converter.
Your noise comes from the VVT system, try to unplug the two connector located on the plastic timing cover. Noise should disapear.
@@atdr2130 Cars with manual transmision are having the same issue
Had this issue too on cold start got a oil change and it went away.. a mechanic told me that the oil was old in my engine so it's was getting thin and the top of the engine wasn't getting enough oil for a couple of seconds.and Arnold Clark serviced it before I bought it so they say 😂 probably a spit polish
@@dice1902 🤣spit polish.
Hi everyone, I'm taking the car next week to the dealership for repair, and i hope i will have my car back on March 10th. I will let you know guys what the issue was and what was replaced by dealership to fix the issue.
Thanks for the update. Looking forward to if this resolves your issue.
Hi, good luck as since I messaged you last time I had full timming kit replaced on my Audi A5 with exacly same engine including 3 chains, 3 tensioners and 5 guides... unfortunatelly this knocking sound is still there... hope you will have more luck than me... please update as I fight with this sound over a year now and spent nearly £2000... still do not know what is this... Thanks👍
I have also changed camshaft folower on HPFP, PCV valve, piston cooling jet valve, oil preassure valve and number of camshaft adjusters, not to mention number of oil changes ... noise still there... soul and wallet destroying engines😬😬😬
Hi pal, did you had your car fixed? Was this cam chain and tensioner issue?
No, still waiting the call from dealership.
@@k-rayn6328 Thanks for reply, please let me know once solved... as I have exactly the same issue on my 2017 Audi A5 Coupe 2.0 TFSI and 4 garages so far say it is ok... but I know it is not, my car started doing this at 64k miles on the clock and has 70k👍
Hi everyone, so I took my car to the dealership from witch I bought the car. After inspection they confirmed that the noise is not ok and is coming from the timing chain. They ordered the cam intake and timing chain tensioner. Parts are back ordered so I'm waiting for their call. Hope this info will help some of you.
So what does it have? The distribution chain and tensioners?
Cuantos km tiene?
@@memphismemphiss4058 Have no idea, will ask them when they will do the repair
@@ra926 It started around 4000km when the temperature dropped down to +5-0C, now i have 18000km.
@@k-rayn6328 estando nuevo como puede sonar asi??
I have a 2019 Cupra 290 with the same problem, I already changed the whole chain kit! Did you solve it?
What is the problem ? You check it ?
Same problem with arteon 2.0tsi 206kw 121000km 😕
Are the spark plugs really tight?
Spark plugs? What's the connection between spark plugs and noise on cold start?
It’s normal since the engine is a direct fuel injected engine, nothing to worry about at all of my 2.0t vw’s do this
If it’s normal why only some of the cars with this engine do that? I’ve the same issue but other guys around me with the same car perfectly fine.
@@radulfek I dont think its normal either. Im almost certain its to do with the variable valve timing on the intake cam. im certain one of the parts, the magnet that controls the solenoid, the solenoid, or the cam gear itself is faulty. Did you manage to fix yours?
@@enosmn I am tired of trying to find the root cause, It will either blow or not, will buy a different car if so. I am sorry mate for not being helpful.
@@radulfek 👍 no stress. My gut feeling is the intake cam vvt.
@@enosmn That would be a huge surprise to me. I was changing it just recently on another car as it didn't operate as should but its behaviour was different. But wish you luck and let us know for all cases :))
Did you find out what it was?
Hi, so I took my car to the dealership from witch I bought the car. After inspection they confirmed that the noise is not ok and is coming from the timing chain. They ordered the cam intake and timing chain tensioner. Parts are back ordered so I'm waiting for their call. Hope this info will help you.
Any update? I am having the same problem on my 2012 Golf GTI.
No updates. Issue still there.
my 19 GTI is doing the same, started around 30,000km and I'm at 73,000km... dealer could not figure out what was wrong, so I'm driving it
UPDATE: My GTI (Gen3 TSI 2.0) is now at 90,000km and still makes the noise, except it's gotten louder and ticking more than before, but goes away as the engine warms up.
5W-30 oil, OEM oil filter and oil change every 8000-9000km since new
@@Technix77and how many seconds does the sound last? In my case it lasts approximately 30/40 seconds and not always when starting after more than 8 hours stopped, in your case does it also do that?
@@jorgealvarez5434 on cold start, it'll make the noise for a min and then go away. much worse when cold out and honestly it sounds like piston slap. which would explain why replacing the head does nothing for the noise.
@@Technix77 Well in my case, now that it's colder because winter is coming it barely makes any noise at cold start, in fact these last few days it hasn't, in summer when I'm standing in the sun and in the heat for many hours, that's when it lasted the longest. the sound, about 30/40sec and it always did it in the cold start after +8/10h stopped. It's as if the oil being "thicker" doesn't do it 🤷🏻♂️
Tengo el mismo problema (Motor CJXC, 300cv), me suena desde mas de 40.000 km, ahora tengo alrededor de 90.000 km y no ha cambiado. Como mucho tarda mas en desaparecer que al principio.
Suele sonar en frio, despues de que bajen las revoluciones del arrancado en frio. Si acelero en punto muerto se escuchan tambien alrededor de las 1.800-2.000 revoluciones.
A parte del ruido, el motor funciona sin problemas.
Uso aceite 5w30 Ravenol RUP y lo cambio cada 10.000 km, las pruebas del aceite usado son impecables sin notables abrasiones de los componentes (hierro, aluminio, cobre, plomo etc).
A mi solo me gustaria saber de donde sale ese sonido, me dejaria mas tranquilo que el tipico „es normal en estos motores“…🤷🏻♂️
Any updates?
Hi, so I took my car to the dealership from witch I bought the car. After inspection they confirmed that the noise is not ok and is coming from the timing chain. They ordered the cam intake and timing chain tensioner. Parts are back ordered so I'm waiting for their call. Hope this info will help you.
Does anyone know what is causing this knocking noise in the engine?
Those are the lifters, nothing to worry about
Is there any update on this ??
Nothing new, after repair the noise is still there when outside is cold, or first start in the morning when is below 10C.
solved the problem?
No, still waiting the call from the dealership.
th-cam.com/video/QiAo7OfeAsQ/w-d-xo.html here is the same sound, apparently the reason is the N80 purge valve
Nope, the same noise after i changed n80 purge valve
is there a result ?
No, still waiting for the call from dealership for repair.
Hi. Any Update? Having same noise in a higher frequency at my GTI
Bad news, after the repair made by dealership the issue still persists. They replaced a bunch of parts (15 parts) and did some adjustments, and still the ticking noise is there, no changes at all at the cold start. The repair report is in french. P.S. The loaner car that I have used during the repair was a brand new Tiguan, and you know what, brand new car makes the same ticking noise, sometimes randomly not only at the cold start, so my conclusion: this is a common issue for all 2021 and up EA888 2.0T engines.
Hatte einen 2018 gebauten, ohne Geräusche, mein nächster Baujahr 2020 hat auch nicht diese Geräusche, DSG oder Handschaltung?
Ended up in a new engine on warranty for me. (engine Code: DLBA) . 3 pistons were loose. Engine damaged.
Hey! Any news?
No news. Still waiting. I have a planned oil change/maintenance in 56 days at the dealership.
@@k-rayn6328 Interesting, same problem with my a4 B9, started to make exactly same noise just during cold starts at about 80k km. No idea how is in the US, but in europe they have no idea why the noise is happening so they dont give a s**t.
Would reccomend anyone with same noise to unplug the n522 valve (near oil filter). It was causing the same noise for me
Didn't I make contact? Or what was the problem?
@@oliverdavidbalderas7698 to be honest idk, it just stops when i disconnect the sensor and starts ticking again when i connect it. I replaced the sensor but the noise is still there.
@@ChromixEdit How long have you been with the noise in your car and what model is it?
@@oliverdavidbalderas7698 s3 8v 2014 cjxc. I basically bought the car like that and drove for almost a year with this sound
@@ChromixEdit Will we have a piston problem? 😢
does the noise go away when the engine is warm?
I have changed the oil couple of weeks ago and with the warm weather the sound is not so prominent, but it's still there
I have exactly same noise in 1.6 tsi
It goes away when engine is warming up
@@dariuszgontarek4827 Cześć Dariusz , mam ten sam problem w Audi A5 2.0TFSI 2017... wiesz może co u Ciebie jest przyczyną? Dzięki
@@wojciechhanus1017 Nie wiem.Nie chce pchać się w koszta.Ciężko dojść bez rozbierania . Mieszkam w UK i tu naprawy są strasznie drogie a auto z 2007 roku. Jeżdżę nim dopóki się coś nie rozleci.
@@dariuszgontarek4827 też mieszkam w UK i wiem oczym mówisz jeżeli chodzi o koszty napraw ale strasznie mnie ten dźwięk irytuje a 4 warsztaty po wiedziały, że to jest normalne... mam to auto od 1,5 i kiedyś tak nie robił więc jak to może być normalne? Myślę, że to napinacz łańcucha rozrządu... Pozdrawiam.
Timing chain
Nope these newer tsi engines don’t have that issue
what was the problem ? my car kind of sounds like that? but more consistent
@@k-rayn6328 my dad is having the same issue. 2021 jetta sel. When I slightly accelerate at 20 mph and then let go it gets faster and louder. The dealership said it’s some kind of valve and that it’s normal but I don’t believe that one bit. I don’t see why vw would make a luxury car that comes with a constant knocking noise..
Hi, so I took my car to the dealership from witch I bought the car. After inspection they confirmed that the noise is not ok and is coming from the timing chain. They ordered the cam intake and timing chain tensioner. Parts are back ordered so I'm waiting for their call. Hope this info will help you.
At 17 seconds the tapping sound is what I hear from my car when I cold start it when the weather is cold what could that be?
Right after it idles a little then goes away.
Is your noise present right when the engine starts, or when the idle starts to drop? What car?
Sounds like injectors to me
not good