My hours are pretty erratic, and bought this furnace over a month ago. Finally fired it for the first time today. I chuckled when I heard the familiar burner sound LOL I applied the rigidizer several weeks ago, so I don't think moisture is a major concern. However, I did the steps they recommended. I've been fascinated by metals for most my life, but you inspired me to go ahead and take the next step ;) I'm gonna be extra cautious, having just seen a video today of a guy setting a hot crucible on tile. The tile exploded shortly after! Needless to say I'll be picking up firebrick for my melt tomorrow! Stay safe, and take care BSD!
Yes mate definitely get fire bricks they will last you forever just don’t throw them at your final creations or they will tend to break down over time🤷🏻♂️. Remember safety first and have fun and any questions mate hit me up on the email below as I answer all emails but I unfortunately don’t see all questions on TH-cam FB or Instagram as I get that many of them they move down the list and go unseen. Bigstackddddd@mail.com
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That’s cool mate When you get around to it and decide to buy one just be sure to email me for A special link that will apply 5% discount off of a furnace for you 👊🏻😁
How awesome was that!! I’m an industrial HVAC tech and I have barrels of copper, 150hp electric motors that are bad, all sorts of fun stuff that would melt in that furnace. #1 copper is going for almost 3$ a pound in Denver. Cheers
Yeah she certainly is a powerful beauty, if you take your copper to the scrapyard a lot of yards won’t pay extra for ingots you’re better off leaving them in the original form, Also if you melt copper into ingots I’ve seen people can ask 300-400% more than what they’re worth on eBay.
Silver Taniwha Well the 10 kg devil forge delivered is around $600 NZD , Crucibles about $25 each molds a few $$each . So all said and done brand-new you’re looking at to start about $700-$750. What are they charging?. Also be sure to check out my lifter a and pouring tongs build to save some money On something you can make at home easily👌🏻
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Thanks mate all is good I got the Ender 3 and I can tell you I absolutely love it great recommendation my friend😀 I don’t know nothing about computers and I worked it out in 10 minutes I just need to learn how to do my own designs and where to go to do it now at any point I use your design (. which I definitely will) there will be a shout out in the video😁👍🏻
bigstackD Casting check Lars out on TH-cam for Fusion 360 tutorials. Jason self-taught himself in the last 2 months, he watches a lot of those videos and then just researching what he had to when he had to do it. Would love to see you cast The Sea of Thieves Doubloon we did. Have a great day. God bless
Yeah sorry about the re-upload it’s confused a lot of people I had to change some stuff in it to make it eligible for the furnace Manufacturers eBay page😁👍🏻
Cheers Dale yeah I released this the other day but I had to re do it as I needed to remove certain links to his website as this video will be added to his eBay page. But hell yeah this is one scary friggen furnace to say the least
I just got myself one of these.. well the 4kg model to be more specific. Where do you get your crucibles from and what brand would you recommend? I like your videos by the way man, very satisfying to watch and well made. Definitely Helped inspire me to get my own furnace
That’s a 6 kg crucible matey . I would only ever do an 8kg crucible for these furnaces as a 10 kilo basically touches the side and you’ll never be able to lift the crucible out🤷🏻♂️. Any questions message me at bigstackddddd@mail.com and I should be able to answer as with the hundreds of comments I get every day a lot will fly past unread unfortunately 😕. Also if you havnt already bought a furnace email me before you do and I’ll give a more detailed opinion of the furnaces and what to use with them 😁
Hey man. When you got your Devil. How long did it take to arrive. Ordered mine 2 days ago. I'm sure it coming to America will take a little extra time.
You really should order some Satanite and put a coating on the kaowool. It does break down and release fibers. I know you usually wear a respirator, but still. I just made a new furnace out of a half barrel lined with kaowool. Used two layers of the Satanite and the difference is remarkable. Anyways, love your channel. Be safe.
Thanks Brett always safety first, I’m trying to source some satanite but it’s hard in Australia there only one person selling it , I will be doing my melts out in the driveway and be standing up wind from now on just in case😁👍🏻
bigstackD Casting- Honestly, it is so hard for me to offer an opinion to you. You are pretty much the boss on melting, as far as I am concerned. I just want you to be ok. I did not think about the fact that it is probably hard to find in Australia (I think that’s where you are). I was burning my old furnace without it until I saw it on another channel. So, when I made my new one I ordered it. You’re an inspiration to all of us weekend warrior melters. Thank you for the content, and you always reply to your fans. Quite admirable.
bigstackD Casting- www.hightemptools.com This is the site I ordered mine from. They do accept international customers. They are located in good ol Alabama, USA. Hopefully this helps some.
Cheers matey for the link . I contacted the manufacturer and he sent me this message below👍🏻😁 When we producing gas forges gas furnaces we use Ceramic insulation we cut it add to products and when it is new and we cutting it then yes is many dusts which is bad for lungs. We use many safety things and very good ventiliation because when insulation is soft and you moving it and cutting then is so many dangerous dusts. But when insulation is inside the furnace or forge and you start it first time and ceramic insulation get hot it HARDEN and then is no any dusts. Ceramic insulation have long time and it hould high temperatures the insulation HARDEN and is safe to use it. However to be sure for full protection we wrote that we recommend to use safety mask. No matter what are you doing or WELDING METALS or MELTING METALS or DOING SOMETHING ELSE need to use safety mask for max protection. And i saw in the comments that peoples writting that when you use is many dangerous dusts and so on and it is not safe to use it is not true.When insulation harden THEN IS NO ANY DUSTS and using long time insulation very very slow surface melting, but not dusts going to the air. However rigidizer is not bad it save insulation and make longer life for insulation and with rigidizer ceramic insulation become hard without heat it, so with rigidizer is better, but it is not important to use.👍🏻
How many melts can you get out of one propane tank? I was able to get 3 at first but last two days I can barely get copper to melt and have gone through so much propane
I wanted to ask about the health risk of glass Fibre material which is used in this kiln. I have the exact same one. I use ventilation in my shop but I don't use any face mask? Should I coat the glass Fibre with something or is it not that dangerous?
Mike, just spend a lot of evenings or whenever, watching all of his, and other similar videos. You'll gain the education you'll need to melt metals. A large dose of common sense will help, too! If you're still worried after watching 30-40 of these types of videos, then perhaps it's best for you to hold off getting started, until you have a better feeling. Finding someone local who's doing this, and who would let you come watch/help, would be a great way to become familiar with the risks & rewards! Good luck, and be safe always!
Yes just like Walter said that would be a great idea to watch a lot of these casting vids . I’m completely self taught through trial and error and watching other channels but when I started there was only three or four of these types of channels around and now there’s 4 billion🤦🏻♂️. When it comes to the wording the mouldmaking a good guy to check out as he had a learning to cast series just recently is Swdweeb, Also check out Paul’s Garage as his earlier casting videos he will give the correct terminology and knows How to explain casting things very well. Also Farmcraft101 certainly knows his casting stuff. Be Sure to let them know I sent you if you do check them out . In my opinion they are the 3 guys that would know a hell of a lot about casting if you wanted to learn👌🏻😁 Swdweeb Paul’s Garage FarmCraft101
@@mikes6490 Don't mention it! We're all here to help each other! I've built 2 beer keg foundries, (b/c since I'm from Texas, I'm always "bigger is better!") Just go slow, and proceed when YOU feel confident! Happy melting!
elitearbor heck yeah it is bro . Yeah not sure on the holes maybe I had something in the mold🤷🏻♂️or it wasn’t hot enough . Expensive door stop but does a bloody good job if that’s all it did👍🏻😁
I am impressed with your furnace, a few questions, how long did it take to drive? Where did u find your crucible? And mostly where did u get your tools from for picking up your crucible?? Oh and I really enjoyed your video it's made me want to buy one of these now.
The tools to lift and pour are very cheap and simple to make at home here’s the link to that . th-cam.com/video/g2ZVw42u9kg/w-d-xo.html . I get all my clay/graphite crucibles from eBay . In the comments on this there is a big few comments on the risks possibly involved with this furnace be sure to read through them all and always use in a nice open area not in a garage or shed. Also your question says how long did it take to drive? Is that an autocorrect mistake?
This was sent from Lithuania to my place in Australia And it was supposed to arrive after 16 days but surprisingly it arrived in only 9 days which is quicker than I expected 👍🏻
Amazon is the best place to get a start on forging supplies. just make sure to check the reviews to see witch ones are worth buying, and what ones will break on ya. :3
They might be different priced so I would check that first But personally I would get it through eBay then if you pay by PayPal you should be covered and be able to know where it’s coming from and when it’ll get there. Be sure to let him know you saw his product on my video , I don’t get anything for it but it’ll show him it was a good idea to send me the furnace. Also only ever use the furnace in the well ventilated area And always stand up wind is this the Remick for the blanket that users can release very small fibers although after the first firing the ceramic blanket hardens and dramatically decreases the amount of fibers that will exit the furnace during operation. Just remember to use all PPE and always safety first my friend. If you want a link to how I made my tongs and lifter I can send you the link. I’ve searched everywhere on TH-cam and this definitely is the cheapest easiest set of tools to make at home with minimum effort. 👍🏻
got a brand new 10kg furnace, and it didnt melt the copper after 1/2 hour.... then i found this video. I think I set mine up wrong. I'll give it another go in a few when it cools down
I bought a forge advertised as 10kg on ebay. The regulator was crap and melt times were up to 3hrs. After fitting it with a proper regulator melt time was 30 mins. But supplied crucible cratered after only 8 melts. The 10kg was not right either as a 10kg won't even fit in the furnace. Apparently, it was a 6kg. What model devil forge do you have and how big of a crucible does it fit?
now I saw another guy just do a review on the forges from this company and in his forge they had cemented over all of the ceramic wool so you don't have to wear a respirator I hope they do that still because I'm their website I didn't see any of it covered with a concrete it's not actual concrete it's something else he called it but it's similar
I never use the valve on the burner as I always turn it off at the tank and that way you can guarantee all fuel has been burnt and there’s no stored energy/propane.
How do you have access to so much scrap regularly? I’ve always been interested in melting ingots as a hobby but don’t know how regularly I’d have enough to justify firing up the forge
100% definitely use refractory coating. When you purchase a devil forge furnaces with the wool they come with enough refractory coating so you can paint it on yourself 👍🏻
Bo i you are right i just me having a Monday confusion . it is 1455c on nickel and the furnace guaranteed to go too 1450. so i just wonder if it can go past and melt it.
It certainly would be a scary temperature to reach I don’t have any nickel but I’ll probably stick to copper as my hottest melting metal. A lot of people have suggested cast iron to melt but there’s really nothing I want to make with iron and I wouldn’t think that would clean up too well , I’ll stick to Coppers aluminium-bronze brass and bronzes😉😁
Cost me about $5 AUS in propane for this video my friend. If you a regular viewer you’ll know that I keep all my ingots for future casting projects but these bigger ones I’ll just keep as they are and stack em up😁👍🏻
Thanks for the quick reply, pretty good return on investment. This is first time I’ve seen any of your videos, I wanted to get one to heat up some steel rods to make some rivets and use them in making old looking steel table.
If you checkout the guys eBay page in the description he has all different shaped furnaces for all kinds of melting or forging stuff . His sword forging furnaces are pretty awesome he also has small ones to heat up little pieces like horseshoes etc👍🏻😁.
I’ve been following you, got the new small Devil Furnace with refractory cement. Need help. Had copper wire in it for 2 hours, crucible red and wire in a wad but never melted. What could I be doing wrong? Had the pressure at about 1 until the tank got low. Plenty of air in. Ugh. 😢
Honestly mate I would recommend getting the 10 kg , for that little bit extra money you have a furnace big enough for what you want to do and the heat efficiency of these things are so good you wouldn’t use any extra gas on the larger model. Also if you bought the small one and in the future decided to do a bigger melt or bigger ingots you would only have to buy the large model anyway but that’s just my personal opinion. With my 10 kg forges the maximum Crucible size I would use is 8 kg as I wouldn’t be able to get my lifter tongs around the Crucible to remove it so I’m thinking 4 kg furnace might only comfortably fit a 3 kg Crucible , again that’s just my opinion. But if you only ever want to do quite small melts like one or 2 kg at a time why not get that one I just think it’s better to have the extra size and not need it then to not have the extra size and want more👍🏻
Also be sure to let devil-Forge guys know you saw it on my channel👍🏻 I don’t get nothing for that but at least it lets that company know I’m a safe bet for possible future advertising😁
@@bigstackD Haha if I could show you my emails with Devil you would be completely blown away at how many times I mention you. Haha. I told them one time you were the only reason I was choosing them. Because I seen your videos then seen you get the Devils.
This furnace was given to me by the people over devil forge.com they sell them on eBay with different sizes different prices, The links in the description to the eBay page. They can get rather pricey although you can make your own quite cheaply if you search TH-cam for cheap mini melting foundries or cheap furnace builds people use pretty inexpensive stuff although they will break down over time. But then you’ll still need to buy a burner if you can’t make your own and again the guy Who makes these furnaces sells the burners and they are absolutely brilliant and again he has varying prices but they start at around $100 US. That’s if you want to go gas. A lot of people use charcoal in their mini furnaces but that’s extremely hard to get up to temperature to melt copper although melting aluminium in the cheap furnaces if you follow instructions correctly is relatively easy . Also there electric furnaces but they’re very expensive as well👍🏻. Hopefully this message makes a bit of sense remember always safety first and do your research I am self taught so half the things I do is probably wrong so definitely research other channels as well
Actually I haven’t coated it yet the Manufacturer has just sent me some Rigidizer So when I get a chance I will be coating it . All his furnaces will now come with rigidizer and a paintbrush from now on
This is the FB2Mb model and the link to the eBay page for this item is below. This thing is scary powerful I have yet to melt brass in it as I’m worried it will heat up way too fast above the zincs boiling point so if you bought this model I would recommend getting a small burner as well to use when melting aluminium and brass . I have done this myself. Melting copper and aluminium bronze is super super fast and easy with this and I absolutely love it. It says can hold 10 kg Crucible but the max I would use would be an 8 kg otherwise I can’t get my lifter tools around the crucible to remove it from the furnace. A few people have had concerns about this furnaces ceramic blanket it has as insulation and I personally would be a touch concerned myself with the small fibres it will release from the furnace but if you use proper PPE and stay upwind it should be fine . Here is a message I received from the supplier about safety and the furnace and below that is the link for the furnace. Also if you are to choose to buy this be sure to let them know you saw it on my channel. I do not get any type of reward or money for this it’s just to let him know advertising on TH-cam is a good idea. There is a little bit in this message from the Manufacturer that might not be relevant just disregard that as I copied and pasted it , this message it’s quite long so bare with it😁. THE OWNER OF DEVIL - FORGE Ceramic fiber blanket insulation when get hot it harden the surface become hard, then it become more safer to use then if happen that some fibres will go to the air ventiliation catch it and remove from working area or quality safety protection mask will not let to brief that small particles it’s the Fact (ventiliation in working area must be for 2 reasons to catch harmful fibres if they will go to the air and to change the air in working space because powerfull burner can burn air very fast. Also use safety glasses to protect your ayes don’t look at burner flames. Mate bigstackD Casting have you remember when you touched insulation before you fired furnace first time? It was very soft now you have used the furnace at high temperature try to touch again the insulation and you will see the difference now it is hard. When insulation become hard then harmful fibres not going to the air however few percents may get to the air and then the guard is quality safety protection mask and good ventiliation. I saw somebody wrote that you should coat kaowool it’s not kaowool it’s ceramic fiber blanket insulation it’s different materials. I saw the comment with recommendation to coat insulation with sodium silicate. We not recommend do that because sodium silicate melting point is Melting point: 1,088 °C so what it mean? It mean that furnace can reach much more temperature inside and this your refractory sodium silicate will burn out and you will think that you are safe, but in real the refractory just burn out and will be the same that you will use the insulation without any refractory. Yes I agree with the Fact that better is to coat the insulation with refractory then insulation life will be longer and then the surface become much harder and will stop fibres going to the air more than just heat the insulation until it harden and surface become hard. But to coat insulation I not mean that use random no name material refractory which can not provide good protection and to make the coating process correct like is written in the instructions and to make this work quality then yes results will be good. We have the plans for the future to add an option to pay extra and order product with special refractory. We have some types of refractory and we need to make the tests and when tests results will be good then we will add the option to order with special refractory. Was some nice comments that we are layer and we just want earn more money. Is many peoples who reading these comments and let they decide with their brains who is true who not. However I was so impressed with bigstackD Casting metal melting experience/projects/movies I very like one comment “bigstackD Casting us backyard metal melting maniacs” He is not only metal melting maniacs he is real professional. What he is doing it is an ART!👍🏻😁 If You will need something from us just let us know mate! THE OWNER OF DEVIL - FORGE FB2Mb -10KG PROPANE MELTING FURNACE FORGE METAL BRONZE GOLD COPPER SILVER BRASS rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F253796844325
This one’s a pretty big scary one but as long as you’ve done all your research it might be ok but still it’s probably a bit too powerful for beginners I would think . I used a smaller burner for years before getting this and it’s scary powerful and that’s after being used to the old furnace so to go from nothing straight to this could be quite daunting or intimidating on someone beginning ? . The guy has smaller models at a cheaper price if that’s your thing to start . When I started I got an electric furnace to just do one and 2 kg of copper at a time and get my head around it all, I then upgraded to a gas one when I wanted to do bigger melts
I made my own foundry and used charcoal. I was thinking on upgrading to gas because its really hard to keep a solid temp on the crucible on the one i made. Do the instructions that come with this one teach you how to properly set the propane? Or is that going to be the trial and error/ research part
Steve Cannon- You are asking a question on a video that’s two years old I’m shocked that I even saw this. And I’m not even sure what video this is on I just get notified every now and then from old videos and the comments I get. I’m not sure if it was you that was asking for info or someone else but hit me up on my email where I can give a detailed description on a better answer with any questions you have👌🏻 bigstackddddd@mail.com
Im using a #8 (8kilo crucible ) in this video even though it says 10kg furnace i would only personally use a 8 kilo max as otherwise it would be very tight to try lift the crucible out with these homemade lifter and tongs the link to these tongs are below and i made them myself cheaply and easily , the real only difference i did to the lifters was add a little tab on the bottom to help secure the crucible when lifting it from the furnace.
@@bigstackD Thanks a lot .... i can totally do that ...im a licensed plumber and take tons an tons of copper out of peoples homes .....im gonna build my own fort Knox ...lol...im in the united states Michigan and they are soon getting rid of the penny so i think copper is gonna go thu the roof ...right now copper is current at $2.81 lb so will see ....anyway your the man for sure....... thanks
@@bigstackD I guess where I am confused is Devils forge website has the fb2m model which states it has no refractory, and the fb2mb has 1 inch of refractory. I am unsure of which one to go with.
TheHockeygod1225 10KG REFRACTORY VS 10KG CERAMIC WOOL The differences are matey the more expensive one is refractory concrete and the cheaper one is ceramic wool. Attached is a link to my video where I did a time trial and gas usage on all 4 different furnaces and I found the more expensive refractory furnace to be the slowest and less efficient as the refractory needs to be superheated before the chamber will come up to melting temperatures. The wool furnace has a little bit more chamber room then the refractory furnace. The wool furnace is over 20 kg lighter A lot cheaper and more efficient when melting by easily 25 to 30% and is very portable where as the ceramic furnace is over 30kg. They both have the same burner same fittings and have the exact same outer casing the only difference is the internal one is refractory concrete on the lid and walls whereas the other one is ceramic wool. When you get both furnaces the refectory one needs to be dried completely by running the burner on and off quite a few times on extremely low heat until all moisture has been eliminated and the ceramic wool furnace needs to be painted in some refractory coating and left to dry on its own which can take one or two days depending on your weather. The refractory furnace is built to last longer but I’ve been using the ceramic wool furnace flat out I have for over a year and all I really needed to do was apply some extra refractory to the walls and lid and it’s still working awesomely and further down the track I will just reline it with ceramic wool and then re-apply more coating and it would be basically brand-new again. I personally prefer the ceramic wool furnace as it’s just easier to unpack and move around and When you’re finished using the burner you can basically pick up the ceramic wool furnace and move it a few minutes after you’ve run it wearing gloves of course but the refractory furnace takes hours to cool down. If you go ahead with the ceramic wool furnace it will come with its own refractory coating and I would suggest only using 80% of it is that would be plenty to cover what you need and save the rest for touchups six or 12 months down the track.👌🏻 GAS USAGE AND SPEED COMPARISONS th-cam.com/video/jwNY9PswHDY/w-d-xo.html What you need to start melting including LIFTER AND TONG BUILD th-cam.com/video/nyp0GiE5FTQ/w-d-xo.html Any other questions let me know through Email only as I will definitely see the email but I will not see the comment as I get hundreds of comments a day it’s extremely difficult to have a conversation in the comment section any other questions on email let me know and I’ll answer soon as I get a chance👊🏻😁. Email in description of all my videos
I have both 10kg models and have done easily 30+ firings , the furnace itself I would think will last for ever being made of steel but more guess would be after A very long time possibly may need to replace the ceramic wool but like I said I’ve done easily 30 firings and the ceramic wool is still in awesome condition plus all new furnaces now come with rigidizer 👍🏻
@@bigstackD Well i was contemplating buying one so I asked the guy that sold them the main difference between this one and the $625 one that he sold and he said the more expensive one would last a lot longer. SO, it got me thinking that maybe the lifespan of the cheaper one would not be that long. It is all relative I know. I should just go ahead and buy one and melt this copper and brass and be done with it so I can get it off my mind. lol Thank you for responding
No worries matey . I personally prefer the cheaper 10kg model as it’s around 12kg and easy to move where as the refractory one is around 33kgs . I have used both a heap each and I recon the heat efficiency on both is soo good I can’t see a difference in the speed they heat the metal . The only thing I’ve really noticed is the refractory one holds heat a lot longer once off obviously 👍🏻. They are both an awesome product and I get nothing from Devil Forge to say that it’s just my personal opinion matey😁
This video Is gonna be linked to the furnace builders eBay page and I had to remove all links and wording of his website as eBay policies don’t allow it, I’m sure its confused quite a few people but on Friday it’ll be a new video and back to normal😁👍🏻
Hey buddy how are you mate, I go to a website called Fiverr they charge you from about $5-6US and they make an intro that you want and email it to you it’s pretty cool there’s so much on offer👍🏻
bigstackD Casting thx also I’m good I hit some bumps in the road to success but I’m back shooting straight again have a good whatever time it is over there sorry if I’m ignorant about time zones 👍
bigstackD Casting thx also I’m good I hit some bumps in the road to success but I’m back shooting straight again have a good whatever time it is over there sorry if I’m ignorant about time zones 👍
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After years of watching I’ve finally got my first 10kg furnace thank you for the inspiration mate🇦🇺
When he poured that ingot perfectly😌
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My hours are pretty erratic, and bought this furnace over a month ago.
Finally fired it for the first time today. I chuckled when I heard the familiar burner sound LOL
I applied the rigidizer several weeks ago, so I don't think moisture is a major concern. However, I did the steps they recommended.
I've been fascinated by metals for most my life, but you inspired me to go ahead and take the next step ;)
I'm gonna be extra cautious, having just seen a video today of a guy setting a hot crucible on tile. The tile exploded shortly after! Needless to say I'll be picking up firebrick for my melt tomorrow!
Stay safe, and take care BSD!
Yes mate definitely get fire bricks they will last you forever just don’t throw them at your final creations or they will tend to break down over time🤷🏻♂️.
Remember safety first and have fun and any questions mate hit me up on the email below as I answer all emails but I unfortunately don’t see all questions on TH-cam FB or Instagram as I get that many of them they move down the list and go unseen.
Bigstackddddd@mail.com
appreciate the reply.
Thank you! 😁
@@bigstackD what is the cost of this unit? Shipped to USA.
@@leeholztrager6463 Check out this link Matey it will give an additional 5% off the furnace price you can doublecheck it before you purchase, the 5% off will be automatically applied when you put a furnace into the trolley or you can simply hit the link and it’ll give you the prices of all the different types of furnaces and it is free shipping worldwide👊🏻😁
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The difference in melting time is incredible! 👍
Hell yeah it’s awesome the heat efficiency of these furnaces are unbelievable 😁👍🏻
Just got my first devil forge....love it thanks for the awesome vids...you're an inspiration..
Getting ready to buy my devil forge. After watching alot of your videos. I've learned many safety issues and what to do properly. Thank you.
That’s cool mate When you get around to it and decide to buy one just be sure to email me for A special link that will apply 5% discount off of a furnace for you 👊🏻😁
I know I have alredy seen it in action, but it's nice to see it fresh out tha box!! 👌🍻
A one stop rig. Well done. It looks totally rebuildable too.
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Just bought one. I thought it'd be 1k+ as it was when this video came out. I just picked it up for $560 with no shipping cost! Winning!
Good work my friend absolute bargain👍🏻. Just remember safety first😉
Got mine for £217, cannot wait to start :)
Love the channel. Enjoy the shenanigans. The dog's adorable. And yes, I'll be getting a DF so I can cast the parts for a Gingery lathe.
Thanks for all the info.just ordered the devil forge tonight.looking forward to seeing it in action.
Just got one myself thanks to you - thank you for the instructional on it
I'm excited for the journey
How awesome was that!! I’m an industrial HVAC tech and I have barrels of copper, 150hp electric motors that are bad, all sorts of fun stuff that would melt in that furnace. #1 copper is going for almost 3$ a pound in Denver. Cheers
Yeah she certainly is a powerful beauty, if you take your copper to the scrapyard a lot of yards won’t pay extra for ingots you’re better off leaving them in the original form, Also if you melt copper into ingots I’ve seen people can ask 300-400% more than what they’re worth on eBay.
A re-run? No problems here, I would have watched the video again anyway at some point. Looking forward to your next upload with that furnace. Thanks!
Next upload in 8 hours my friend 😁👍🏻
Where did you get that thermometer that can read such high temps?
Bretton - it’s a no name brand, just jump on eBay type in infrared 1050 and it should pop up just make sure you get the one that’s rated at 1050°C
I really like this type of fournace, She work very well!!!
You gave that ingot quite the lip! That's some next-level melt magics, lolz.
Seriously man, I love watching your videos.
All I seriously love your comment
🤘🏻😁🤘🏻
Matey, Love you Very Much, May God bless you with more❣️
Found one for sale here in NZ.
Fired and prepared but never used....
I THINK IM GONNA HAVE TO JUMP ON IT
👍👍👍👍
What’s that a complete furnace? Just make sure you get a good price if you do👌🏻😁
@@bigstackD yup complete set up crucibles included only gotta sort the lifters and pouring handles plus GAS BOTTLES
@@bigstackD any hints on what a good price would be?
Silver Taniwha Well the 10 kg devil forge delivered is around $600 NZD , Crucibles about $25 each molds a few $$each . So all said and done brand-new you’re looking at to start about $700-$750. What are they charging?. Also be sure to check out my lifter a and pouring tongs build to save some money On something you can make at home easily👌🏻
Just unboxed ours today.
NICE, NOW ALL YOU NEED IS THAT ENDER 3 & YOU WILL BE READY TO START TAKIN IT TO NEXT LEVEL. REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING ALL THE COOL STUFF TO COME. THANKS FOR SHARING & HAVE A GREAT DAY. GOD BLESS
Thanks mate all is good I got the Ender 3 and I can tell you I absolutely love it great recommendation my friend😀 I don’t know nothing about computers and I worked it out in 10 minutes I just need to learn how to do my own designs and where to go to do it now at any point I use your design (. which I definitely will) there will be a shout out in the video😁👍🏻
bigstackD Casting check Lars out on TH-cam for Fusion 360 tutorials. Jason self-taught himself in the last 2 months, he watches a lot of those videos and then just researching what he had to when he had to do it. Would love to see you cast The Sea of Thieves Doubloon we did. Have a great day. God bless
That copper pour seems like fanta 😂😂 most satisfying pour 😍
Yeah she’s a smooth pour for sure .
🤘🏻😀🤘🏻
8:00 Copper ingot wallpaper is epic
I just bought that same furnace! Cant wait to get my hands on that!✌😎🍻
Everything about this video is perfect.😎
😮 ....just 😮
Yeah sorry about the re-upload it’s confused a lot of people I had to change some stuff in it to make it eligible for the furnace Manufacturers eBay page😁👍🏻
bloody amazing forge mate, very impressive - hopefully get some good use out of it - keep up the quality content
Cheers Dale yeah I released this the other day but I had to re do it as I needed to remove certain links to his website as this video will be added to his eBay page. But hell yeah this is one scary friggen furnace to say the least
That was the sexiest pour of Copper EVER!!!
I just got myself one of these.. well the 4kg model to be more specific. Where do you get your crucibles from and what brand would you recommend? I like your videos by the way man, very satisfying to watch and well made. Definitely Helped inspire me to get my own furnace
Nice new toy.
Love the vids. Say , whatt size crucible are u using with the 10kg furnace?
I love your videos
Just got mine furnace.
Hey bud got the new devel furnace. Thanks heaps. Just seen you haven't used the mix to paint the wall's does it matter that much?
What size crucible did you use for this video? Also thanks for always answering my questions. You and Ben have been so much help.
That’s a 6 kg crucible matey . I would only ever do an 8kg crucible for these furnaces as a 10 kilo basically touches the side and you’ll never be able to lift the crucible out🤷🏻♂️. Any questions message me at bigstackddddd@mail.com and I should be able to answer as with the hundreds of comments I get every day a lot will fly past unread unfortunately 😕. Also if you havnt already bought a furnace email me before you do and I’ll give a more detailed opinion of the furnaces and what to use with them 😁
@@bigstackD Just sent you an email.
Devil forge is so awesome: i like it
The Best Melt in Town... I Can't wait until I too am Melting Metal. Bonus Video
Hey man. When you got your Devil. How long did it take to arrive. Ordered mine 2 days ago. I'm sure it coming to America will take a little extra time.
You really should order some Satanite and put a coating on the kaowool. It does break down and release fibers. I know you usually wear a respirator, but still. I just made a new furnace out of a half barrel lined with kaowool. Used two layers of the Satanite and the difference is remarkable. Anyways, love your channel. Be safe.
Thanks Brett always safety first, I’m trying to source some satanite but it’s hard in Australia there only one person selling it , I will be doing my melts out in the driveway and be standing up wind from now on just in case😁👍🏻
bigstackD Casting- Honestly, it is so hard for me to offer an opinion to you. You are pretty much the boss on melting, as far as I am concerned. I just want you to be ok. I did not think about the fact that it is probably hard to find in Australia (I think that’s where you are). I was burning my old furnace without it until I saw it on another channel. So, when I made my new one I ordered it.
You’re an inspiration to all of us weekend warrior melters. Thank you for the content, and you always reply to your fans. Quite admirable.
bigstackD Casting- www.hightemptools.com
This is the site I ordered mine from. They do accept international customers. They are located in good ol Alabama, USA. Hopefully this helps some.
Cheers matey for the link . I contacted the manufacturer and he sent me this message below👍🏻😁
When we producing gas forges gas furnaces we use Ceramic insulation we cut it add to products and when it is new and we cutting it then yes is many dusts which is bad for lungs. We use many safety things and very good ventiliation because when insulation is soft and you moving it and cutting then is so many dangerous dusts.
But when insulation is inside the furnace or forge and you start it first time and ceramic insulation get hot it HARDEN and then is no any dusts. Ceramic insulation have long time and it hould high temperatures the insulation HARDEN and is safe to use it. However to be sure for full protection we wrote that we recommend to use safety mask.
No matter what are you doing or WELDING METALS or MELTING METALS or DOING SOMETHING ELSE need to use safety mask for max protection.
And i saw in the comments that peoples writting that when you use is many dangerous dusts and so on and it is not safe to use it is not true.When insulation harden THEN IS NO ANY DUSTS and using long time insulation very very slow surface melting, but not dusts going to the air.
However rigidizer is not bad it save insulation and make longer life for insulation and with rigidizer ceramic insulation become hard without heat it, so with rigidizer is better, but it is not important to use.👍🏻
well thanks so much my friend its comments like this that i love to read.😀👍
Bought one. Thanks for the link. The one I have is to small. Do you sell crucibles and molds too?
Thanks Matey. From Ohio USA!😁
That was ballsy...
😉👍🏻
Amazing
How many melts can you get out of one propane tank? I was able to get 3 at first but last two days I can barely get copper to melt and have gone through so much propane
Will commenting on all 250+ vids get me a solid chance in the giveaway? I love your videos 😁😎. Ingot is my favorite pupper on the tubes!
I wanted to ask about the health risk of glass Fibre material which is used in this kiln. I have the exact same one. I use ventilation in my shop but I don't use any face mask? Should I coat the glass Fibre with something or is it not that dangerous?
love the work you do, where can i learn to do this, im kind of scared working with gas bottles and such high heat?
Mike, just spend a lot of evenings or whenever, watching all of his, and other similar videos. You'll gain the education you'll need to melt metals. A large dose of common sense will help, too! If you're still worried after watching 30-40 of these types of videos, then perhaps it's best for you to hold off getting started, until you have a better feeling. Finding someone local who's doing this, and who would let you come watch/help, would be a great way to become familiar with the risks & rewards!
Good luck, and be safe always!
@@walter2990 Thanks my man.
Yes just like Walter said that would be a great idea to watch a lot of these casting vids . I’m completely self taught through trial and error and watching other channels but when I started there was only three or four of these types of channels around and now there’s 4 billion🤦🏻♂️. When it comes to the wording the mouldmaking a good guy to check out as he had a learning to cast series just recently is Swdweeb, Also check out Paul’s Garage as his earlier casting videos he will give the correct terminology and knows How to explain casting things very well. Also Farmcraft101 certainly knows his casting stuff. Be Sure to let them know I sent you if you do check them out . In my opinion they are the 3 guys that would know a hell of a lot about casting if you wanted to learn👌🏻😁
Swdweeb
Paul’s Garage
FarmCraft101
@@mikes6490 Don't mention it! We're all here to help each other! I've built 2 beer keg foundries, (b/c since I'm from Texas, I'm always "bigger is better!")
Just go slow, and proceed when YOU feel confident!
Happy melting!
@@mikes6490 What is your general location? I'm near Tampa, FL, & if you're nearby, I'd love to have you come and experience a melt or two!
Nice
What did you set propane pressure too and how much did you open the air? I can't get mine to melt copper like this
I still wonder what caused those holes... and that's still one hell of a doorstop!
elitearbor heck yeah it is bro . Yeah not sure on the holes maybe I had something in the mold🤷🏻♂️or it wasn’t hot enough . Expensive door stop but does a bloody good job if that’s all it did👍🏻😁
I am impressed with your furnace, a few questions, how long did it take to drive? Where did u find your crucible? And mostly where did u get your tools from for picking up your crucible?? Oh and I really enjoyed your video it's made me want to buy one of these now.
The tools to lift and pour are very cheap and simple to make at home here’s the link to that .
th-cam.com/video/g2ZVw42u9kg/w-d-xo.html
. I get all my clay/graphite crucibles from eBay .
In the comments on this there is a big few comments on the risks possibly involved with this furnace be sure to read through them all and always use in a nice open area not in a garage or shed. Also your question says how long did it take to drive? Is that an autocorrect mistake?
bigstackD Casting yes it's my phone it's ment to be how long did it take to arrive.
This was sent from Lithuania to my place in Australia And it was supposed to arrive after 16 days but surprisingly it arrived in only 9 days which is quicker than I expected 👍🏻
Amazon is the best place to get a start on forging supplies. just make sure to check the reviews to see witch ones are worth buying, and what ones will break on ya. :3
You've got me sold on this brother.would you recommend getting it from dealer in US or on Ebay?
They might be different priced so I would check that first But personally I would get it through eBay then if you pay by PayPal you should be covered and be able to know where it’s coming from and when it’ll get there. Be sure to let him know you saw his product on my video , I don’t get anything for it but it’ll show him it was a good idea to send me the furnace. Also only ever use the furnace in the well ventilated area And always stand up wind is this the Remick for the blanket that users can release very small fibers although after the first firing the ceramic blanket hardens and dramatically decreases the amount of fibers that will exit the furnace during operation. Just remember to use all PPE and always safety first my friend. If you want a link to how I made my tongs and lifter I can send you the link. I’ve searched everywhere on TH-cam and this definitely is the cheapest easiest set of tools to make at home with minimum effort. 👍🏻
@@bigstackD
Yeah brother would very much appreciate that link.the videos are excellent. Your mad just like me 🤣.look forward to more. Cheers mate 👍
No wukkas!
th-cam.com/video/g2ZVw42u9kg/w-d-xo.html
got a brand new 10kg furnace, and it didnt melt the copper after 1/2 hour.... then i found this video. I think I set mine up wrong. I'll give it another go in a few when it cools down
I bought a forge advertised as 10kg on ebay. The regulator was crap and melt times were up to 3hrs. After fitting it with a proper regulator melt time was 30 mins. But supplied crucible cratered after only 8 melts. The 10kg was not right either as a 10kg won't even fit in the furnace. Apparently, it was a 6kg. What model devil forge do you have and how big of a crucible does it fit?
Have heard some people say you have to treat the wool and such before use or it damages it? Some sort of coating?
Was going to ask the same question
Once again Very Nice. #BigstackD
I made my own burner coast me 10$ u burner clean powerful no Repair i like it Made in Lithuania👍👍
He’ll yeah buddy😁👍🏻
If you make another I would be interested in buying one
now I saw another guy just do a review on the forges from this company and in his forge they had cemented over all of the ceramic wool so you don't have to wear a respirator I hope they do that still because I'm their website I didn't see any of it covered with a concrete it's not actual concrete it's something else he called it but it's similar
hope to see iron ingot next time
I don’t actually own any iron but maybe in a later video I’ll make a nice iron ingot for the collection👍🏻😁
When turning the furnace off does it matter if you close the valve at the burner before shutting off the tank?
I never use the valve on the burner as I always turn it off at the tank and that way you can guarantee all fuel has been burnt and there’s no stored energy/propane.
How do you have access to so much scrap regularly? I’ve always been interested in melting ingots as a hobby but don’t know how regularly I’d have enough to justify firing up the forge
Hey bigstackd did you use a coating for the ceramic wool ?? or it’s not needed for this model furnace 🙏
100% definitely use refractory coating.
When you purchase a devil forge furnaces with the wool they come with enough refractory coating so you can paint it on yourself 👍🏻
@@bigstackD Thankyou bro
Did you do a video on the refractory coating and pre heat stage ?
Hi man didn't the forge come with a bag of heat refractory cement for the heat insulation
Woher heißt du die Tiegelzagen, finde nicht wo man solche kaufen kann / Where do get this
crucible tongs, i dont know where to buy.
You should casted a Yin and yang
Yeah maybe in a future video I could do a mixed metal 1 👍🏻.
BigStackD, why does it matter what region you are in??
What type of crucible is best?
I wonder if it can take pure nickel, the website say 1550 C as max, nickel is 1555 C. I have large stacks of pure nickel i want to transform.
I thought nickel was around the 1450 mark🤔🤷🏻♂️. I could be wrong 👍🏻
Bo i you are right i just me having a Monday confusion . it is 1455c on nickel and the furnace guaranteed to go too 1450. so i just wonder if it can go past and melt it.
It certainly would be a scary temperature to reach I don’t have any nickel but I’ll probably stick to copper as my hottest melting metal. A lot of people have suggested cast iron to melt but there’s really nothing I want to make with iron and I wouldn’t think that would clean up too well , I’ll stick to Coppers aluminium-bronze brass and bronzes😉😁
Iiiii love you Channel
Iiiii love your Comment
$18.78 dollars for the copper you melted how much did it cost in propane to melt? Thanks for the video.
Cost me about $5 AUS in propane for this video my friend. If you a regular viewer you’ll know that I keep all my ingots for future casting projects but these bigger ones I’ll just keep as they are and stack em up😁👍🏻
Thanks for the quick reply, pretty good return on investment. This is first time I’ve seen any of your videos, I wanted to get one to heat up some steel rods to make some rivets and use them in making old looking steel table.
If you checkout the guys eBay page in the description he has all different shaped furnaces for all kinds of melting or forging stuff . His sword forging furnaces are pretty awesome he also has small ones to heat up little pieces like horseshoes etc👍🏻😁.
And have a little sqiz at my newer vids if ya like this kind of stuff but if not that’s cool have a great week my friend 👍🏻
I’ve been following you, got the new small Devil Furnace with refractory cement. Need help. Had copper wire in it for 2 hours, crucible red and wire in a wad but never melted. What could I be doing wrong? Had the pressure at about 1 until the tank got low. Plenty of air in. Ugh. 😢
Do you think the 4kg light duty ceramic wool furnace would be too small
Honestly mate I would recommend getting the 10 kg , for that little bit extra money you have a furnace big enough for what you want to do and the heat efficiency of these things are so good you wouldn’t use any extra gas on the larger model. Also if you bought the small one and in the future decided to do a bigger melt or bigger ingots you would only have to buy the large model anyway but that’s just my personal opinion. With my 10 kg forges the maximum Crucible size I would use is 8 kg as I wouldn’t be able to get my lifter tongs around the Crucible to remove it so I’m thinking 4 kg furnace might only comfortably fit a 3 kg Crucible , again that’s just my opinion. But if you only ever want to do quite small melts like one or 2 kg at a time why not get that one I just think it’s better to have the extra size and not need it then to not have the extra size and want more👍🏻
Also be sure to let devil-Forge guys know you saw it on my channel👍🏻 I don’t get nothing for that but at least it lets that company know I’m a safe bet for possible future advertising😁
Sweet thanks for the advice and I’ll make sure I let devil-forge know👍
@@bigstackD Haha if I could show you my emails with Devil you would be completely blown away at how many times I mention you. Haha. I told them one time you were the only reason I was choosing them. Because I seen your videos then seen you get the Devils.
Where did you get your furnace or did you make it? I really want to get started but the furnaces are expensive. Any suggestions?
This furnace was given to me by the people over devil forge.com they sell them on eBay with different sizes different prices, The links in the description to the eBay page. They can get rather pricey although you can make your own quite cheaply if you search TH-cam for cheap mini melting foundries or cheap furnace builds people use pretty inexpensive stuff although they will break down over time. But then you’ll still need to buy a burner if you can’t make your own and again the guy Who makes these furnaces sells the burners and they are absolutely brilliant and again he has varying prices but they start at around $100 US. That’s if you want to go gas. A lot of people use charcoal in their mini furnaces but that’s extremely hard to get up to temperature to melt copper although melting aluminium in the cheap furnaces if you follow instructions correctly is relatively easy . Also there electric furnaces but they’re very expensive as well👍🏻. Hopefully this message makes a bit of sense remember always safety first and do your research I am self taught so half the things I do is probably wrong so definitely research other channels as well
Curious how long it lasts
Was this sponsored?
Also did you not coat the wool or did you do it later?
Actually I haven’t coated it yet the Manufacturer has just sent me some Rigidizer So when I get a chance I will be coating it . All his furnaces will now come with rigidizer and a paintbrush from now on
In a way it was sponsored I just made this video for him for his eBay channel and exchange he let me keep the furnace
Is this the fb1sb model? Considering purchasing, what are your thoughts?
Also, is are regulator units in psi?
This is the FB2Mb model and the link to the eBay page for this item is below.
This thing is scary powerful I have yet to melt brass in it as I’m worried it will heat up way too fast above the zincs boiling point so if you bought this model I would recommend getting a small burner as well to use when melting aluminium and brass . I have done this myself. Melting copper and aluminium bronze is super super fast and easy with this and I absolutely love it. It says can hold 10 kg Crucible but the max I would use would be an 8 kg otherwise I can’t get my lifter tools around the crucible to remove it from the furnace. A few people have had concerns about this furnaces ceramic blanket it has as insulation and I personally would be a touch concerned myself with the small fibres it will release from the furnace but if you use proper PPE and stay upwind it should be fine . Here is a message I received from the supplier about safety and the furnace and below that is the link for the furnace. Also if you are to choose to buy this be sure to let them know you saw it on my channel. I do not get any type of reward or money for this it’s just to let him know advertising on TH-cam is a good idea. There is a little bit in this message from the Manufacturer that might not be relevant just disregard that as I copied and pasted it , this message it’s quite long so bare with it😁.
THE OWNER OF DEVIL - FORGE
Ceramic fiber blanket insulation when get hot it harden the surface become hard, then it become more safer to use then if happen that some fibres will go to the air ventiliation catch it and remove from working area or quality safety protection mask will not let to brief that small particles it’s the Fact (ventiliation in working area must be for 2 reasons to catch harmful fibres if they will go to the air and to change the air in working space because powerfull burner can burn air very fast. Also use safety glasses to protect your ayes don’t look at burner flames.
Mate bigstackD Casting have you remember when you touched insulation before you fired furnace first time?
It was very soft now you have used the furnace at high temperature try to touch again the insulation and you will see the difference now it is hard.
When insulation become hard then harmful fibres not going to the air however few percents may get to the air and then the guard is quality safety protection mask and good ventiliation.
I saw somebody wrote that you should coat kaowool it’s not kaowool it’s ceramic fiber blanket insulation it’s different materials.
I saw the comment with recommendation to coat insulation with sodium silicate. We not recommend do that because sodium silicate melting point is Melting point: 1,088 °C so what it mean? It mean that furnace can reach much more temperature inside and this your refractory sodium silicate will burn out and you will think that you are safe, but in real the refractory just burn out and will be the same that you will use the insulation without any refractory.
Yes I agree with the Fact that better is to coat the insulation with refractory then insulation life will be longer and then the surface become much harder and will stop fibres going to the air more than just heat the insulation until it harden and surface become hard.
But to coat insulation I not mean that use random no name material refractory which can not provide good protection and to make the coating process correct like is written in the instructions and to make this work quality then yes results will be good.
We have the plans for the future to add an option to pay extra and order product with special refractory.
We have some types of refractory and we need to make the tests and when tests results will be good then we will add the option to order with special refractory.
Was some nice comments that we are layer and we just want earn more money.
Is many peoples who reading these comments and let they decide with their brains who is true who not.
However I was so impressed with bigstackD Casting metal melting experience/projects/movies
I very like one comment “bigstackD Casting us backyard metal melting maniacs” He is not only metal melting maniacs he is real professional. What he is doing it is an ART!👍🏻😁
If You will need something from us just let us know mate!
THE OWNER OF DEVIL - FORGE
FB2Mb -10KG PROPANE MELTING FURNACE FORGE METAL BRONZE GOLD COPPER SILVER BRASS rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F253796844325
The regulator is in MPa but it’s an easy conversion to psi.
The regulator with Mpa measurement. 0.1Mpa - 1Bar - 14.5PSI
Our manometer with Mpa measurement. 0.1Mpa - 1Bar - 14.5PSI
Measures in Mpa
what is the cost of making this? how much propane to pour this bar?\
What size forge would you say is good for a beginner. The 10kg in the vid or 4kg?
Defenitly the 4kg one 10kg is allot of metal to begin with
@@FireworksFreak8008 thanks
This enough a bronze sword?
Wie macht mann den Gas Tank/Propane an also muss man dort was beachten habe mal etwas mit psi gelesen.
Olá Boa noite, gostaria de saber onde você comprou esse equipamento está forja maravilhosa OBRIGADO
Toda a informação está na descrição meu amigo. O cara tem uma loja no eBay.😀👍
How do you read and understand the gas guages???
How much is this whole set up?
What size was the crucible
why no rigidizer on the wool?
Thinking of starting out .... would this be ideal for a beginner?
This one’s a pretty big scary one but as long as you’ve done all your research it might be ok but still it’s probably a bit too powerful for beginners I would think . I used a smaller burner for years before getting this and it’s scary powerful and that’s after being used to the old furnace so to go from nothing straight to this could be quite daunting or intimidating on someone beginning ? . The guy has smaller models at a cheaper price if that’s your thing to start . When I started I got an electric furnace to just do one and 2 kg of copper at a time and get my head around it all, I then upgraded to a gas one when I wanted to do bigger melts
I made my own foundry and used charcoal. I was thinking on upgrading to gas because its really hard to keep a solid temp on the crucible on the one i made. Do the instructions that come with this one teach you how to properly set the propane? Or is that going to be the trial and error/ research part
@@bigstackD are you saying this is not a good model to start with, if so what should we get
Steve Cannon- You are asking a question on a video that’s two years old I’m shocked that I even saw this. And I’m not even sure what video this is on I just get notified every now and then from old videos and the comments I get. I’m not sure if it was you that was asking for info or someone else but hit me up on my email where I can give a detailed description on a better answer with any questions you have👌🏻 bigstackddddd@mail.com
I have a dejavu I guess 😂😂
How much gas does it use?
When I use mine, it shoots fire out of the hole in the top. It still works and melts copper, so dont really care.
Yeah fire comes out when I use my big burner and crank it up , it’s just hard to see sometimes as I melt in direct sunlight 👍🏻
@@bigstackD Oh! I have a big burner too. Thanks. I didnt know if it was normal.
so im new to this and i have a question what size is the melting cup and where did u buy the 2 differnt clamps to grab and pour the hot cup ....
Im using a #8 (8kilo crucible ) in this video even though it says 10kg furnace i would only personally use a 8 kilo max as otherwise it would be very tight to try lift the crucible out with these homemade lifter and tongs the link to these tongs are below and i made them myself cheaply and easily , the real only difference i did to the lifters was add a little tab on the bottom to help secure the crucible when lifting it from the furnace.
@@bigstackD Dude you r the man thanks for the info but i dont c the link for the crucible lifters
th-cam.com/video/g2ZVw42u9kg/w-d-xo.html
@@bigstackD Thanks a lot .... i can totally do that ...im a licensed plumber and take tons an tons of copper out of peoples homes .....im gonna build my own fort Knox ...lol...im in the united states Michigan and they are soon getting rid of the penny so i think copper is gonna go thu the roof ...right now copper is current at $2.81 lb so will see ....anyway your the man for sure....... thanks
Why is this called 'light duty' furnace? thx!
Is this badboy able to handle charcoal?
Nah mate I wouldn’t think charcoal would work with this one as it’s designed specifically for gas 👍🏻
bigstackD Casting thats sad, charcoal was dirt cheap here. You could get 1kg charcoal for around 40 cent (us)
Can the wool in this be coated with refractory?
Yes. If you purchase one of these there will be a bag of refractory cement included that you need to paint on before using the furnace👌🏻😁
@@bigstackD I guess where I am confused is Devils forge website has the fb2m model which states it has no refractory, and the fb2mb has 1 inch of refractory. I am unsure of which one to go with.
TheHockeygod1225
10KG REFRACTORY VS 10KG CERAMIC WOOL
The differences are matey the more expensive one is refractory concrete and the cheaper one is ceramic wool. Attached is a link to my video where I did a time trial and gas usage on all 4 different furnaces and I found the more expensive refractory furnace to be the slowest and less efficient as the refractory needs to be superheated before the chamber will come up to melting temperatures. The wool furnace has a little bit more chamber room then the refractory furnace. The wool furnace is over 20 kg lighter A lot cheaper and more efficient when melting by easily 25 to 30% and is very portable where as the ceramic furnace is over 30kg.
They both have the same burner same fittings and have the exact same outer casing the only difference is the internal one is refractory concrete on the lid and walls whereas the other one is ceramic wool. When you get both furnaces the refectory one needs to be dried completely by running the burner on and off quite a few times on extremely low heat until all moisture has been eliminated and the ceramic wool furnace needs to be painted in some refractory coating and left to dry on its own which can take one or two days depending on your weather. The refractory furnace is built to last longer but I’ve been using the ceramic wool furnace flat out I have for over a year and all I really needed to do was apply some extra refractory to the walls and lid and it’s still working awesomely and further down the track I will just reline it with ceramic wool and then re-apply more coating and it would be basically brand-new again. I personally prefer the ceramic wool furnace as it’s just easier to unpack and move around and When you’re finished using the burner you can basically pick up the ceramic wool furnace and move it a few minutes after you’ve run it wearing gloves of course but the refractory furnace takes hours to cool down. If you go ahead with the ceramic wool furnace it will come with its own refractory coating and I would suggest only using 80% of it is that would be plenty to cover what you need and save the rest for touchups six or 12 months down the track.👌🏻
GAS USAGE AND SPEED COMPARISONS
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What you need to start melting including LIFTER AND TONG BUILD
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Thank you very much for a thorough explanation. This was extremely helpful.
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How many firings do you expect to get out of this model?
I have both 10kg models and have done easily 30+ firings , the furnace itself I would think will last for ever being made of steel but more guess would be after A very long time possibly may need to replace the ceramic wool but like I said I’ve done easily 30 firings and the ceramic wool is still in awesome condition plus all new furnaces now come with rigidizer 👍🏻
From what I’ve seen in the way of wear n tear I would guess hundreds
@@bigstackD Well i was contemplating buying one so I asked the guy that sold them the main difference between this one and the $625 one that he sold and he said the more expensive one would last a lot longer. SO, it got me thinking that maybe the lifespan of the cheaper one would not be that long. It is all relative I know. I should just go ahead and buy one and melt this copper and brass and be done with it so I can get it off my mind. lol Thank you for responding
@@bigstackD which one has the wool, the cheaper one? Why do you need both?
No worries matey . I personally prefer the cheaper 10kg model as it’s around 12kg and easy to move where as the refractory one is around 33kgs . I have used both a heap each and I recon the heat efficiency on both is soo good I can’t see a difference in the speed they heat the metal . The only thing I’ve really noticed is the refractory one holds heat a lot longer once off obviously 👍🏻. They are both an awesome product and I get nothing from Devil Forge to say that it’s just my personal opinion matey😁
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I know 😲😳
Why'd you have to re upload?
This video Is gonna be linked to the furnace builders eBay page and I had to remove all links and wording of his website as eBay policies don’t allow it, I’m sure its confused quite a few people but on Friday it’ll be a new video and back to normal😁👍🏻
Fair enough. Still got a like from me.
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Brenden Wymer same thing I was thinking
Yeah sorry mate this Friday back to normal 🤘🏻
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How did you make your intro
Hey buddy how are you mate, I go to a website called Fiverr they charge you from about $5-6US and they make an intro that you want and email it to you it’s pretty cool there’s so much on offer👍🏻
bigstackD Casting thx also I’m good I hit some bumps in the road to success but I’m back shooting straight again have a good whatever time it is over there sorry if I’m ignorant about time zones 👍
bigstackD Casting thx also I’m good I hit some bumps in the road to success but I’m back shooting straight again have a good whatever time it is over there sorry if I’m ignorant about time zones 👍
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Hey bud the first link doesn't work for me.
Ok hang on a sec I’ll try find it
Try this one matey👍🏻
FB2Mb -10KG PROPANE MELTING
FURNACE FORGE METAL BRONZE GOLD COPPER SILVER BRASS rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F253796844325