Thank you SO MUCH for this video. I have been wanting to learn about all this and start pouring and casting. I had no idea of the differences of furnaces or the prices. You covered it all I think for what I needed to know. Thank you!
I started looking for a melt furnace. Almost pulled the trigger on a top loading model until I found your video. Since I want to do casting, silver clay and other things. I'm going with a front loading version. This way I can do lost wax burnout if I ever get to the lost wax phase. Also thought about putting my mold into the furnace to heat it up before pouring. Do not mind spending a bit more money as the front loader gives me options as you stated. I have subscribed as it is the least I can do for such valuable le advice.
awesome my friend! So glad the video was able to help ya out, I think you made the right decision for sure with the front loader! congrats and best of luck to you!
Propane is actually a great, inexpensive method. A turbotorch with a couple different tips will do the job of melt dish melts. A standard bottle top will kill as soon as you turn it upside down. For molds I use a standard lp with a hose, the rest I use the turbotorch. I have map in case I need a quick burn or a heat boost, but map only gets 100 degrees above LP. Acetylene is too expensive for what I do.
Excellent tutorial. Very complete and well-spoken video. I am leaning towards Devil Forge for the reasons you suggested, and for the versatility of propane tanks for other uses. (grid down cooking, grilling, workshop). Thank you for posting this, and I will check your channel for any updates. Subbed.
@@majorhavoc9693 I’ve been using it for a couple of years now with no problems. I can’t say where they are made but I have no complaints about the quality.
nice video, some good info. I've had a couple of cheap Chinese propane ones and they work fine but the higher temps wear them out quicker than aluminum melts.
I went with the programmable table top furnace mainly to because i plan on making jewelry via lost wax and investment is pretty particular as far as its firing schedule
Can’t stand (from personal experience) for the first 3 but the 2nd one is sorta what I use, mine loads from the top. The last ones are a definite No No when you live in an HOA …. They tend to get mad if you wash your car with a radio on so the noise from a Devil’s Forge won’t be in my future anytime soon. Great Video Lakehousebeach
Nice video mate. Gives me something to think about. What would you recommend for doing gold? I’m a prospector and a lot of the gold has other impurities (host rock, black sands and quartz ). Cheers.
Thanks brother i really did work hard on this one and even after it was all done and uploaded to the tube i kept thinking of ways i could have made it better. Informational videos are difficult in that sense as its almost impossible to try and think of every single item and scenario that someone could be in. I tried my best LOL!
Ya my friend, it definitely has its pros and cons but I hope if you decide to pour one day this video helped you out a bit. Thanks for watching brother
what electric furnaces would you recommend that can go above the melting temperature of iron? i have an interest in trying out different alloys and most of the materials i've been looking at require the 1500c+ temperatures to melt, and i personally despise Gas canisters because i constantly feel like i am near an explosive device waiting to go off. what options do i have?
Great video, I have all ways used electric furnaces so I can work out costs. I would like to use propane but gas bottles are so expensive and how long do they last.
yeah i agree the electric furnace is definitely the budget friendly option. Not too sure how long the bottles last as i am an electric guy myself but i think it just really comes down to preference and budget for instance yes the electric option might be cheaper on the surface but if you are consistently doing a bunch of scrap in an electric you may wear it out faster leading to needing to replace it therefor more costs!
Acetylene for a beginner? from the little i know about Acetylene, it very dangerous and requires skill. not to mention the cost/space needed for 2 tanks.
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I just recovered then refined my first 5.5 gram button (from E-waste). Took me 9 months to get the process right....this after a year of learning (reading, watching vids, note taking etc) and a lot of failure. The last part of this process is refinement. I dont see me ever having more than a 10-15 gram yield. I also dont think I am good at the torch + melt dish style and want to be able to use a furnace. As I dont ever expect huge yields it seem you are recommending an electrical one. Is this correct? Also, a front loader seems so easy. If you were me, would you look for an electric front loader? Time is the most precious gift one can give another. So I do not expect you to answer this...rightfully so. If you do, thank you in advance. Journey well.
hey! Thanks so much for taking the time to watch the video and ill give you my honest answer and opinion for your particular situation. In my opinion since you know you will have smaller yields and wont really be pouring or melting anything in large quantities I would honestly recommend that you try and get comfortable with a torch and dish setup, i say this because when i am melting very small quantities (less than an oz) it is the best option, the pour will be easier and you wont leave any behind. that being said i totally get what you are saying so if i had to choose another option i would probably go with the front loader or a small electric furnace (1kg) the front loader might be a good option as you could bake the gold right into the mold without even having to pour it. Sorry for the long response but to sum it up i would recommend the dish and torch but my 2nd pic would be either the small electric or the front loader depending on your budget. Hope this helps!
@@LHBpoursThank you for this thoughtful answer. I am still using the Map gas + propane torch and have built sort of an oven to push the heat back down onto the gold. It seems to me I continue to push the gold up the sides of the melt dish. Maybe I am getting too close or IDK something... So, what you said about staying with this process and the reason, yes, that makes sense. It was an original concern of mine. I thought I could mitigate this by collecting a large amount before I melt using the furnace. Is there a particular melt dish you would recommend? That all being said, I really appreciate your time. That was pretty cool.
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One big advantage of electric furnaces is temperature control. This is important if you are working with alloys, especially brass.
Its also good for sintering some 3d printed aluminum filaments
Thank yoy for that, have about 20 lbs I wanted to try making into a hammer
Thank you SO MUCH for this video.
I have been wanting to learn about all this and start pouring and casting.
I had no idea of the differences of furnaces or the prices.
You covered it all I think for what I needed to know.
Thank you!
Glad i could help my friend! Thanks for checking it out & if you have any more questions about getting setup just reach out im glad to help!
I started looking for a melt furnace. Almost pulled the trigger on a top loading model until I found your video. Since I want to do casting, silver clay and other things. I'm going with a front loading version. This way I can do lost wax burnout if I ever get to the lost wax phase. Also thought about putting my mold into the furnace to heat it up before pouring. Do not mind spending a bit more money as the front loader gives me options as you stated. I have subscribed as it is the least I can do for such valuable le advice.
awesome my friend! So glad the video was able to help ya out, I think you made the right decision for sure with the front loader! congrats and best of luck to you!
Propane is actually a great, inexpensive method. A turbotorch with a couple different tips will do the job of melt dish melts. A standard bottle top will kill as soon as you turn it upside down. For molds I use a standard lp with a hose, the rest I use the turbotorch. I have map in case I need a quick burn or a heat boost, but map only gets 100 degrees above LP. Acetylene is too expensive for what I do.
Excellent tutorial.
Very complete and well-spoken video.
I am leaning towards Devil Forge for the reasons you suggested, and for the versatility of propane tanks for other uses. (grid down cooking, grilling, workshop).
Thank you for posting this, and I will check your channel for any updates. Subbed.
Thank you, great info!
I bought the Devil Forge 4 kg kiln. Love it. I do want the 10kg but 4kg is an excellent entry level.
From what I can tell, Devil Forge is just rebranding junk furnaces from china. I might be wrong though.
@@majorhavoc9693 I’ve been using it for a couple of years now with no problems. I can’t say where they are made but I have no complaints about the quality.
nice video, some good info. I've had a couple of cheap Chinese propane ones and they work fine but the higher temps wear them out quicker than aluminum melts.
Very informative, thank you so much. Well made, easy to follow, and I laughed at your jokes. New subscriber!
I went with the programmable table top furnace mainly to because i plan on making jewelry via lost wax and investment is pretty particular as far as its firing schedule
Can’t stand (from personal experience) for the first 3 but the 2nd one is sorta what I use, mine loads from the top. The last ones are a definite No No when you live in an HOA …. They tend to get mad if you wash your car with a radio on so the noise from a Devil’s Forge won’t be in my future anytime soon. Great Video Lakehousebeach
Nice video mate. Gives me something to think about. What would you recommend for doing gold? I’m a prospector and a lot of the gold has other impurities (host rock, black sands and quartz ).
Cheers.
Amazing video. Very in depth and easy to understand. Well done my man!
Great analogy, good job!
Thanks brother i really did work hard on this one and even after it was all done and uploaded to the tube i kept thinking of ways i could have made it better. Informational videos are difficult in that sense as its almost impossible to try and think of every single item and scenario that someone could be in. I tried my best LOL!
well ya did pretty good covering the main bases!!@@LHBpours
Just a bit too late for me, as I just got the one I ordered, but I went with a 6 kg propane furnace.
thats a solid choice honestly! congrats!
i live far from city so i dont have gas, i would like to know if there is a small (even if less then a 1kg) electical but high temp furnace
An old propane grill serves very well to preheat molds.
for sure!
Does wattage matter on the hobby size. For silver. Vevor makes 1400 and 1700 for same price basically
Thank you! Very informative video.
Pouring silver seems like so much fun. Maintenance of the equipment doesn't. Perhaps I take it up as a hobby when I retire.
Ya my friend, it definitely has its pros and cons but I hope if you decide to pour one day this video helped you out a bit. Thanks for watching brother
@@LHBpours definitely! Very informative.
Good video, though I recommend not getting acetylene at first. A propane oxy setup is fine for this purpose and is much safer.
Great video ❤
what electric furnaces would you recommend that can go above the melting temperature of iron? i have an interest in trying out different alloys and most of the materials i've been looking at require the 1500c+ temperatures to melt, and i personally despise Gas canisters because i constantly feel like i am near an explosive device waiting to go off. what options do i have?
Great video, I have all ways used electric furnaces so I can work out costs. I would like to use propane but gas bottles are so expensive and how long do they last.
yeah i agree the electric furnace is definitely the budget friendly option. Not too sure how long the bottles last as i am an electric guy myself but i think it just really comes down to preference and budget for instance yes the electric option might be cheaper on the surface but if you are consistently doing a bunch of scrap in an electric you may wear it out faster leading to needing to replace it therefor more costs!
Great information! 👍
Can you provide a link on eBay for the sensor probe.
Awesome job BRO !!! 🦞👊🏻👊🏻🦞
Are any of these made in the USA ???????????????
Last one in the video
Front loading you can Cupel metals
Great talk Great video
thanks my friend, i appreciate it!!
Acetylene for a beginner? from the little i know about Acetylene, it very dangerous and requires skill. not to mention the cost/space needed for 2 tanks.
Question ? Can you open the front furnace at high temperature ?
I have but of course use caution. minimum for me are safety glasses and leather gloves
you say devil forge, Have you tried Castmaster? or know about them? Have you had any experience with induction melters? thanks.
You didnt actually think he was going to respond did you?
@@majorhavoc9693 Here's a tip - When you see the uploader's profile picture in the "__ replies" tab underneath a comment, it means the uploader has replied to the comment above. Using just a little deductive reasoning, you might have the good fortune of understanding that the uploader occasionally replies to comments, and therefore it isn't unreasonable to expect him (or even an entirely separate user who has respectable knowledge on the subject) to reply.
I just recovered then refined my first 5.5 gram button (from E-waste). Took me 9 months to get the process right....this after a year of learning (reading, watching vids, note taking etc) and a lot of failure. The last part of this process is refinement. I dont see me ever having more than a 10-15 gram yield. I also dont think I am good at the torch + melt dish style and want to be able to use a furnace. As I dont ever expect huge yields it seem you are recommending an electrical one. Is this correct? Also, a front loader seems so easy. If you were me, would you look for an electric front loader?
Time is the most precious gift one can give another. So I do not expect you to answer this...rightfully so. If you do, thank you in advance.
Journey well.
hey! Thanks so much for taking the time to watch the video and ill give you my honest answer and opinion for your particular situation. In my opinion since you know you will have smaller yields and wont really be pouring or melting anything in large quantities I would honestly recommend that you try and get comfortable with a torch and dish setup, i say this because when i am melting very small quantities (less than an oz) it is the best option, the pour will be easier and you wont leave any behind. that being said i totally get what you are saying so if i had to choose another option i would probably go with the front loader or a small electric furnace (1kg) the front loader might be a good option as you could bake the gold right into the mold without even having to pour it. Sorry for the long response but to sum it up i would recommend the dish and torch but my 2nd pic would be either the small electric or the front loader depending on your budget. Hope this helps!
@@LHBpoursThank you for this thoughtful answer. I am still using the Map gas + propane torch and have built sort of an oven to push the heat back down onto the gold. It seems to me I continue to push the gold up the sides of the melt dish. Maybe I am getting too close or IDK something...
So, what you said about staying with this process and the reason, yes, that makes sense. It was an original concern of mine. I thought I could mitigate this by collecting a large amount before I melt using the furnace. Is there a particular melt dish you would recommend?
That all being said, I really appreciate your time. That was pretty cool.
I was just watching a silver dragons video and I think coinman5000 mentioned your birthday in it haha
Thanks, you saved me $300
😊
Build your own furnace, pretty easy….😎
yes i built mine but i dont think you can build one less than you can buy one
You left out induction 😢 (but otherwise thanks!!!)
Happy birthday
thanks CM!
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That was very nice of Yankee, thank you John!