IWD Reacts to "Make/Break Episode 1 | EDG | 2021 LPL Documentary"
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- It's so nice to see what happens behind the curtains... Today we get to experience the struggles that EDG had to endure in order to reach that sweet number one spot. Make some popcorn and let's go!
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The coach of edg is really impressive. Definitely a huge factor in their worlds win
Difference with NA is that this coach talks for the sake of the team, while Reginald trashtalks the players to make himself look like he knows better.
@@buddhaoffreedom it's all about whether it is constructive and how far you should go with those moves, there's nuance going on with them, for regi is just dick swinging and lashing out temper.
it's pretty clear that edg coach cares for the players, while regi is simply toxic in a way so that he can stand on your shoulders when you're down
ngl edg coach reminds me of a tough but caring father figure
@@pikachuisawesomeduh that’s the role for a lot of eastern coaches, they start bringing up these players while they’re teenagers and still lack real world maturity. So they need a strong male figure to help them grow not only in the game but into responsible young men
I think this is how coaches should be normally. These guys are already high lvl players and mostly know the game already and just need a sort of mental support to push through
Also the verbal beatdown diff is that instead of targetting the top laner for misplaying he did it for the attitude the player had when walking away from a scrim. He also did not yell at him in the heat of the moment. He went to make sure he was fine and reminded him of the promise they made to each other. Once he was certain he was cooled down brought him back to the team and punished him publicly to show the other members he was not going to play favorites.
man that edg coach had me fired up to play and improve lmfao
Same
No cap
10/10 work on whoever was in charge of generating the subtitles, I'm sure there are some quotes and lines in here that don't translate perfectly into english, but there wasn't a single line of subtitles that was unable to be read from a western perspective.
Feel like its clement's work
Actually the translation was done very well
Agree. I watched this twice with and without English subs and found the translator rly did a good job.
Quite an interesting watch. I personally think some clips in it would be better with a bit more context, like what happened and how the team performed. Dom bringing out relevant Vod footage definitely helped me understand a lot more.
tbh the documentary is meant more for the die hard fans and ppl heavily invested in league. they dont necessarily need that context. i agree, the more casual/average viewer won't understand some clips.
Ikr?
That was so well made. So excited for the next episode “You can’t let yourself be consumed by the question, it can easily destabilize your mentality”
Well, the FPX episode is actually a perfect proof of that.
What I like about lpl compared to lck is that lpl emphasizes brotherhood between players, calling each other 兄弟, their position is equal. lck is more like listen everything the elders said.
There's a clear example like RNG, we usually name it "Royal need Gay" Xdddd
@@xuke4653 WTF MAN! LMAO
yes
@@xuke4653 🤣 lmao I saw fans joking about Viko (Viper & Meiko) already but this name sounds even more 😂😂😂
@@mangatalk9263 true
35:20 best coach ever
Respect
Imagine if more teams in NA and EU were this open. It makes me more interested to watch LPL now becuase this video made players look human
Honestly, the coach hard carried them, I don't think EDG would've even gotten to Worlds without him. He did everything he needed for the team to push them to the next level.
Watching this coach remembered me about a coach that we had in our basketball team: our team was the laugh of the city, like really a clown team. Winning against us for 20 pts or less was a bad thing for the rest of the league.
Then it came this guy, a coach that was 100% straight forward and brutally honest. He always made the wake up calls that we needed, he took the best of us and exploit it like nobody. People were concerned about his attitude against us, because everyone heard him screaming and ranting every game. But those wake up calls made us win everything from regular season to playoffs.
Sometimes it really goes down to have a coach like that, and some people will never understand it. Specially NA.
"I blasted him in front of the team for 20 minutes straight" this dude literally did that just to prove he doesn't have favoritism towards Flandre too, like holy shit. I hope LS is taking notes, because I'm actually expecting some favoritism towards Fudge, and this is an easy way to shut me up
It's for the team players... not the fans lmao
Now Imagine if you Nemesis was mid. Good that they run out of Import slots.
LS watched this on his stream and didn't seem to have much praise for EDG's coach whatsoever, basically had the opposite opinion of Dom.
@@howardwilfred2294 What do you mean by opposite?? Did he not have much to say about the coach, ir did he explicitly say he doesn't like his style of coaching and/or his manner in interacting with players?? If he doesn't have a strong opinion either way then that says something very different than pushing against it
@@shadowslightly6759 I suggest you to go watch the vod. It is from 8-9 days ago now to get context for yourself. However, to answer your question Dom is obviously positive about EDG's coach, very much so. Especially his approach to motivating his players. LS reaction was opposite as in it was largely muted towards to head coach, his initial reaction to the speech EDG head coach gives when EDG are down 0-2 to WE is "What is wrong with this guy?". In terms of their head coach it seemed like he was near enough indifferent, nothing extremely negative to say but no reaction or comments of agreement in the manner Dom reacted. Like I said "didn't seem to have much praise" I didn't say that he was pushing against it like you are suggesting, that's just putting words in my mouth. Maybe you could chalk up LS reaction to the fact he finds the manner of coaching standard, so he has no comments towards it.
With their drafting coach though, he roasted him on multiple occasions in a negative manner.
the thing I really like about Dom is he literally knows everything about other regions, and he won't speak unless he knows what he's talking about. (unlike LS)
Keep up the good work man!
You know you can praise people without putting other people down.
Also Dom does not know everything about every region, as far as I am aware he only follows LEC/LCS/LPL and some LCK.
LS doesn't usually speak on something he doesn't know much about though, my problem with him is that he watches the LCS over LPL for clout and he doesn't have the balls to admit out loud that he just hates LPL 's fucking guts for petty reasons, feels incredibly fake to me.
LS doesnt talk about anything lpl related because he knows he dont watch it. i hate his guts but he doesnt make claims about the lpl, just watch any worlds predictions videos. what i do have a problem is with him using not watching the lpl as a basis for underrating the lpl. its the double standard that gets me. edg had an amazing summer and slumped at worlds, therefore dwg is the clear favourite. but in msi dwg is the team that had a good season and slumped at the tournament, but we are supposed to look to dwg as the favourites because of no clear apparent reason.
@@wenbolu6157 Watch him and Nemesis's commentary on 2019 FPX vs G2 finals, these two will trigger you I promise
what a great video, I can't wait for EP 2 with Dom
I already watched the video on the LPL english channel. I knew I had to watch it again with Dom. His comments made some connection I was not aware of when I first watched this.
the next episode is about FPX
well, I have already seen that, trust me, you may see there's a clear difference between EDG to FPX
@@xuke4653 yeah, I want to watch ep 2 but I know it will be so depressing when we reflect on FPX’s year which was just a year of so many what if’s and high expectations but all ending in disappointments in the end.
@@TheArmouredOne TRUE. That video is so depressing 🤪 that I watched half of it and went back to watch EDG’s again🌝😂 (that way of talking of the fpx’s manager rly drive me mad. I feel my pressure as a student even increases after watching it🤪😂)
The Coach sounds like a commander preparing his troops for the battlefield. Eastern culture is savage I like it. Better than the Snowflakes in the West.
Bro imagine if League players were coached by Football/American Football coaches. They’d file a crimes against humanity complaint. You can tell this team actually cares about not only winning but actually getting in the mentality that you need to win.
they ll get motherfuked every fukig min in their training. and eventually kill dem selves due to criticism.
This is the only way for Esports to evolve into sports, not just a meme. You need mature figure to put these kids in line.
Some American football coaches are just assholes though lol. The coach you see here is at least constructive.
EDG is a very good example of a weak mental team that managed to loose alot but learn and improve afther every loss intil they became a strong mental team. A bit of the same hapened to GenG in the end.
Dom really likes it when the coach flames the players. Maybe he should nameswap to IWantToGetDominated.
He's past his player phase. This guys' gonna be a coach some day lol
I think if NA wants to win the worlds, all the team memebers have to smash their egos and even break some laborlaws. Ive seen some vids about NA team trainning, its like you get paid so much for doing E-party with all the best resourses and hardwares.
BTW deep-fried spicy Bullfrog is delicious
speaking from experience, the biggest difference between asian and eu/na mentalities is that people or children in asia are generally accustomed to harsher verbal criticism since they receive it since grade 1. Not saying that this is always good or beneficial but it definitely makes people more mentally resilient and accepting of other opinions. What the coach did/said is fairly regular in china given the context, since the situation is analogous to you failing an exam/course in a school setting
Although your idea is correct for most general public, most coaching staffs in NA/EU sport culture are quite hardcore. Esport coaching staff are soft some how, but if you look at NFL NBA or college sport none of those coaching staffs are soft.
You mean abuse. No, it does not, take Japan for instance, one of the most xenophobic countries in the world.
@@haoye2413 True EU basketball is savage.
1:40 Dom I’m dying 😂😂
I do like kenzhu. He's very inspirational. He knows exactly how to comfort and support the team and each member under different situations. However he will be leaving EDG for RNG starting next split. 😿
Honestly I feel like the verbal beatdown part is pretty normal, obviously it isn't like the coach is insulting him or whatnot but it is just the coach making sure Flandre understand his position as a player of the organization and as a teammate. Maybe it is just cultural difference, but I don't see how Western coaches should get fired for giving players "verbal beatdowns" if the player is acting the way that Flandre was acting.
"If they can play like brothers their play will be different" like Dom said, pretty much chinese Yamatocannon right there
how did he not crack up at the cost efficent adc sign.
This coach makes me want to go pro
Hey dom can you react to the time you got reverse swept by lmq or 2015 gauntlet vs c9 and explain what went wrong? Would love to hear it from someone who was actually played these games! Video#7
NA >>> Known for planting trees at worlds
NA aka kNown for Agriculture
@@MKWiiLuke4TW when i read this first i was like wtf is Clown Agriculture?
" rather see you lose standing up straight than watch you win on your knees " Epic
they decided to stay in suzhou for a night, the place at 19:34 is literally just a booth in an internet cafe
That coach was the real carry.
This video basically proves that western players are soft man child whiners…
Alphari comes to mind
It probably is true. But I doubt all eastern teams function this well also. Hats off to the EDG staff for facilitating a good environment while still being able to dish out criticism and be honest. And hats off to the players for being able to communicate and put their egos aside. This is how a championship team should function imo
19:25 look at this PC Cafe setup if this was the PC cafe in your local place i swear i'd been playing there everytime i get the chance to play
all the Korean's have the same dejected thousand-yard-stare going on when they are tilted in the scrim room lol. you can go back to Team Liquid's vlog's when they got Piglet, he makes the same tilted face as all the other Korean pros lol
Scout finally gets his praise that isnt from frosk.
“He’s just so real!”
Yup. Asian parents and an Asian violin teacher. Both Chinese. They’re very practical, and they don’t bullshit. They tell you straight up.
“What are you doing?”
“Don’t even think about _ if you can’t do this”
Exactly, as a Chinese myself, I dont think EDG’s coach was “flaming” them. Honestly that scolding was much needed and I literally went “Why yall surprised, this is normal.”
@@badtimes4710 Why is abuse normalised?
@@Azgorth02 Because you can't improve without someone reprimanding you when you did smth wrong. Sure it sucks that my parents were harsh when i was younger but i wouldn't be the person i am if won't for them. Maybe it's just the difference between east and west.
@@Azgorth02 It was clearly not abuse. It was not like the coach was trying to put them down or venting his anger or something. He "flamed" them to ignite their anger so that they could have a stronger will to improve. The same logic applies to Asian parents, too.
@@Azgorth02 Hello, asian kid back again. It's not really abuse. There are some really nasty tiger parents out there, and they're a lot worse. At least for me, and like the coaches I can see in the video, Asian parents will probably reprimand you often, but it's always for a good reason and they always give you really great tips to improve. I can see how this can be misinterpreted as abuse, but it's not just aimless yelling/physical violence.
Verbal beatdown, welcome to corporate Asia
Welcome to winners mentality!
we need coach like this in NA lol
It wouldn't have worked. Too many snowflakes
no one is gonna see this anyway but if i were gay it would be with dom
This is what ls doesn’t understand players are not cards, ur best 10/10 card will always win against a 9/9 card but a human can be considered the best but can trip up its all about the mentality the fight the grit, and performing on that moment
Now we know why TSM is importing a LPL mid laner, so Regi can go to war with him
Really enjoy your reactions to LPL content!!! Glad to know we'll be seeing more with the next episodes
Jiejie’s performance in world finals was insane.
It's crazy how these players just assimilate into the teams and start to learn the langauge
Yeahh, I was shocked after watching some videos of Viper speaking Chinese with almost no accent 😂
Need more of this expeditiously
Seems like they meant the make or break more literally than I thought
i live in China and i was also like ...wtf do you mean you eat bullfrog, but it's prepared in a buncha different ways in Chinese cuisine - like skewered and grilled or in soups, and it fucking rules. They just serve you the meat from the bullfrog, it's not like you're eating a whole bullfrog on a stick lol
EDG ft. Iwilldominate
More of this type of content please!!!!
dom keep posting these please as they come out
Such good content, as dom told! Holy shit!
*you're on fire!!*
I love ESports documentaries Strongge
Coach of edg inspired me to stop being a shitter in LoL solo q and quit the game.
based
If NA were more like LPL not only would our content be better, we'd have better games and spicier drama. Oh to dream a dream
That coach would make any NA team cry
that is some great coaching ffs. Sometimes players, in any sports or team environment, need that kind of brutality, but it's more than ok if that brutality comes from pure will of winning and from honest affection towards players. My coach was like this, when we were sucking hard he would not tell us "oh my boy, dw you'll come back stronger". It was an all out wake up call, because who cares if you wake up after you lost, it's just that moment that matters. I dont get why na doesn't get this, wen in any other american sport it is normal. Of course there is a limit to what a oach can say or do...regi.... but strict but affectionate coaches will always be the best to coach young men.
No, they don't. You are wrong.
Its because the owner hires proper managers to set up the team structure and the owner will trust in the managers, managers in turn trust in the coaches they hire
@@jxswu3224 No.
bullfrog tastes like tender chicken
Manlier is compared to a boy- its like be more mature and not kid around.
at 3320, flandre 1 rotates the drake with the ezreal not giving jiejie an opportunity to smite
Dom seeing this just makes me want to ask, please rewatch breaking point on stream would love to see your reactions to it after all these years. This gives me vibes of it, and i honestly wish NA teams showed anywhere close to this even. Makes me miss the old days, was so much easier to connect with players when seen there struggles.
Holy fucking shit Viper is so good! That game 4 vs FPX *chef kiss*
"Our culture is fck up"
Well at this point there nothing left about your culture
the masters subverted and supplaneted it all...
Great Content! Please do more of this
Good content Bro !!!
28:30 his coaching philosophy, saying he fears 0 arguments more than constant bickering, is just what LS says a team environment should be like. I hope he can develop that sort of space in C9 this 2022!
With moderation. What if the team's got a personality imbalance like having five introverts? Their brains straight up aren't genetically wired for arguing, and it's just unrealistic to force them.
@@Finnv893 having discussions isn't always about "arguing", and being an introvert doesn't mean you don't want to voice your opinion, it just makes it harder to find the right ways to do so. Finding the tools for the whole team to express themselves and disagree with each other on some things (while, obviously, agreeing on others) is one of the basic challenges, imo, to actually be a good coach.
Please link the Video youre reacting to in the description.
SICK reacts, sick content, keep it up man.
when is episode 2
bullfrog is more delicious than fish, but I only had it once in a restaurant
42:35 you know zz1tai talked about their final days on season 5 group stage
He was so pissed off when AHQ got out of groups when they took a break while IG were eliminated after practicing non-stop and lost cuz of mentality
Also, mad respect on EDG, well-deserved worlds champion
In China they call the bull frog “tian ji” which translates to either land Chicken so I thought I was eating Chicken the first time.
"Be a man, what do you even mean?" Imao
A reaction to true sight would be epic
Hahah it's so fucking true. The eastern mentality is "You either win or you're shit" while in the west people are like "I play to have fun hurr durr"
EDGs Coach flaming Flandre in front of everyone to prove a point is Exactly what Bill Belichick did to Tom Brady.
China might be the best region when IT comes to talk about in game mentality, but I Wonder if EU, Korea is second or Third on that particular front, at least we all know who last place is, NA.
Sometimes rather than getting calmer by mental processes and telling yourself to calm down is not enough! It is also normal to not be complitely calm after these competitive games! Some players perform better calmer and others like doinb seem to perform better while being more agitated. I would suggest the players to move more, agitate their body more, do more movement in between games, they sit down with their mental storm and pressure in their chest, like its going to go away if you say to yourself any stupid coment like its okay I will perform better if I get calmer. Bro you have to get it out PHISICALLY and MOVE, SHAKE IT OUT, SHOUT IT OUT, like the coach or whatever said, be more manily about it in a way, dont expect to be perfectly calm and when you realize you are not just sit there and tell yourself you need to cheer up or calm down, movement, energy is needed. They hold it all in just thinking it shouldnt be there in the first place, even when they won they try to remain calm when they clearly cant be, let it explode brother!
fried bullfrog just taste like softened fried chicken
Love this content 😍
5:54 does anyone know why his fingers are so fucked up ?
Coach of edg inspired me to stop being a shitter in LoL solo q and quit the game.
This guy still remembers Misaya👁👄👁
Impressive
Help the video is broken
bro is the fucking narrator jon cena??????????????????
the react video has more views than the video D:
This is league version of Dota "True Sight" Its so good. :O
libera a legendaaaaaaa poww grr
It would be nice if you add the chat on the side
man nelson caught a stray and for what
fpx episode is released!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
want giant pizza. Bed to burn
Wat happened to crackdown?
This is hilarious 10/10
Everybody else: *talking about the coach's skills*
Me: BULLFROG?!?
Fog lags, taste like juicier chicken if cook and season right. Taste like chewy nasty catfish if made wrong.
yo bullfrogs are good if they been cooked right
@@giroocoj9257 had good ones and nasty ones
@@Lancemoolied I had kung pao bullfrog b4 it was insanely good
holy shit viper ate an actual frog. He is basically french
kcorp viper?
They gave Viper a bullfrog because his name is Viper (the animal). Vipers, literally eat frogs.
Nah, that dish is made by sliced frog meat so if you have never ate it before you would probably think its chicken. And it's normally multiple frogs per serve.
Countries that don't have frogs in their cuisines just don't have frogs in general.
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Lol why you gotta do Fly dirty like that at least theyre the only team Na that will have an impact on the world =P
1st
bullfrog tastes chicken, must try