'Pakistan is actually 'Plotistan'' - What’s next in the Imran Khan Vs Pakistan Army battle?
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- As the Pakistan Army flexes its muscles and goes after former Prime Minister Imran Khan and his party the PTI, ThePrint’s Deputy Editor Snehesh Alex Philip speaks to senior Pakistani journalist Wajahat S Khan, a Adjunct Professor at New York University’s Centre for Global Affairs and non-resident Senior Fellow at Atlantic Council in his show #DefenceScope to understand more about what is happening in the neighbouring country.
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I always wonder if there is a single institution in Pakistan that actually cares for the well being of Pakistan. The military operates like a feudal enterprise. The politicians are feudal families. The judiciary just keeps switching sides between the two. No one gives a cheet about the common people.
U really summed it nicely
The military that you say operates like a feudal enterprise has always been the best option for Pakistanis in general. You only have to look at the history of how Pakistan was doing economically when it was under Military Rule and compare that to when the politicians were running it. Its unfortunate but Military seems to take less away and make the most out of what it has to offer to the common man than the absolute corrupt politicians. Imran was the only hope as a politicians. Hope and pray that this pandemonium gets sorted in a positive and peaceful way with PTI intact with Imran Khan ...
Sadly it's true 😢
@@HKhan-786 how do you think the military was able to bring economic change? By selling its own citizens to western powers, by getting large debts from IMF. After all this I can understand how you feel because I use to think the same way. But imagine once that you are living in a house your father gave you. You have a chauffer a driver, gate keeper and cook. One day the gate keeper decides I can drive the car so he took his job and started driving. Then he said I can cook as well so he started working as a cook. One day he says I can run this house better than its owner. Now this gate keeper is doing all the things he is not suppose to do except for gate keeping. Army is not made to take financial decision yet they have ingrained this thinking in our minds which is that they are the saviour of this country. There is a nexus of current politicians, army generals the same thing happened in East and west pakistan separation. They want corrupt govt. In power so it can be easily controlled.
that is very sad reality......first time a politician stand for common people n they all ...politicians....army.....beaurucracyy........judiciary.....against him.......the state is powerful n the workers of pti are totally peaceful middle class young people who only know peaceful protest.....people r only asking for election n they r not arranging it n extended baseless excuses in fear that Khan will win n then he will bring them 8n courts of law ....obviously they have committed the crimes ...so in this fear they denied the election rights of people n make it a conflict between people n army......very depressing situation...
Wajahat.. Aaj ki mahaaz...in his baritone voice . One of the finest political analysts in the subcontinent, has a real personality with lot of class, used to enjoy his talk shows,memorable one with Gen Musharraf at his Dubai apartment & Imran Khan and many others, the one on the Border with Pk Army was fabulous.
ThePrint should have a permanent tie up with him for a weekly analysis show on Pakistan, He is the very best.
Glad to know he is safe in NYU and doing his shows from there . Please share his link or will search him out.
Great show Snehesh, you too are amongst ThePrint's finest resources and this was a fantastic episode.
A Shekhar Gupta + Wajahat Khan talk show would be icing on the cake.
One of the finest Political Analysts in the subcontinent? Lolz.. He was a PR journalist of Army establishment. Now become a imran Khan fan and doing his PR.😅
Isn't it the same guy who used to talk smack about India and Hindus when he was closer to the establishment?
Before you say all this you should have seen Wajahat Khan and Musharraf interview where celebrate on Jihad on India
Finest Political Analyst in Subcontinent 🤡
This Retarded habit of Indians of praising every "Do Kodi ka aadmi" is beyond pathetic.
Baritone voice or not, his track record and past statements say what kind of mindset he has.
Why are you all so damb to see the bigger picture?
Excellent insights by Wajahat - i recall him to be very hawkish on all aspects on India earlier - but this seems more objective and balanced - the point on Pak army being actually the Largest Political Party is priceless
When your patloon is under fire all aggressive comes down..
Love the line Pakistan army never won a war but never lost an election
Still LoC there 😂 where we made 1948
@@x1avenger thats because indian side is educated and doesnt believe in attacking
1947-48 war won by Pakistan, 1965 war was a stalemate, 1977-89 Afghanistan war was won, 2001-2021 -> Afghanistan war won.
Who won the war rhat liberated 1/3 of Kashmir. Who smashed India in 1965
@@siddharthbanerjee2816 😂😂😂 subah sham pok pok buonkte ho
Waz is without a doubt the best commentator on Pakistan in the English language.
Pakistanis got a brave, truthful and charismatic leader after so long. Ofcourse they would be willing to go to any lengths to secure him. More power to these young and ambitious lads who are fighting for their right to vote independently.
Lol dumb people
Print always good, real journalism. No masala no dramatic sound.
Superb Snehesh. Excellent insights by the Professor.
As a Pakistani, I would always be grateful to Khan for removing the veil off from the Army's face and showing their real face to the young generation of Pakistan.
Unfortunately, the people of Pakistan are still not brave enough to stand up to the Army's general's.
The army was able to turn around public opinion in a major way with the help of mainstream media , they even have their goons in the maulanas Madrassa army....this was pakistans 3 day arab spring...it's over you will be a military state for a long time .. because when people keep saying "we have jasbah and hum aattamee thaakkath hey" in every second sentence; then the psyche is super insecure...
it should be constitutionally not like this, now face the music
Thank God I thot pak ll come to the right track but since nothn has changed les go pak ll remain the same no development nothn...
You have strength as Muslims against Kafirs not against your Army 🤣
Wajahat has completely missed the point in saying that today's situation is unlike 1971! He is comparing the structural/physical aspects of the 1971 crisis. He is completely ignoring the PRINCIPLES upon which the conflict of 1971 was triggered. Now notice the similarities: 1) A popular party ANP (today's PTI) had won an election constitutionally (Imran is today calling for elections) and finally, Mujeeb (like Imran) was calling out the establishment for its involvement in politics. Because PPP and other parties (like today's PDM) did not want to see Mujib as PM (just like they don't want to see Imran today as PM), they ensured that all court, legal, and constitutional orders were violated. The Supreme Court has ordered elections to be held on 14th May but just like 1971, all of these orders are NOT BEING IMPLEMENTED. Today we are beginning to understand that PAKISTANI POLITICIANS AND ESTABLISHMENT ARE SARKASH PEOPLE. They have conveniently ignored court orders! BUT UNLIKE 1971 THE ARMY MUST LEARN A LESSON: REMAIN WITHIN YOUR CONSTITUTIONAL LIMITS
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I thought elections were supposed to be in Oct this year.
@@johndoe-vc1we Many media organizations are confused that perhaps elections are due in October and Imrna is demanding "early elections. Actually as per the constitution, the elections need to be held in no less than 90 days after the current government's term. That 90 day deadline ended on 14th Ma. Hence, IK's demand for elections. The government's OCtober date is a delayed election date, hence the confrontation between PTI and the government. PTI's fear is that because eteh current administration came at the behest of the establishment there is a high chance that the government will not conduct elections if one accepts a delayed election date and the election date will keep postponing if once doesn't;t stick tot he constitutional deadline. The Supreme Court has also ordered the elections to be held on 14th May. But the irony is that the govt and the Election Commission both have refused to comply. After the Supreme Court's judgment the tension intensified further. In Pakistan, politicians and establishment (in particular) are SARKAsH hence the country has had several political crisis in its history.
Could not have asked for a better journalist from Pak to Join the people at Print. I listen to his podcast / vlog as often as I can. Brilliant guy.
@waj - where is your Michigan memorabilia man. I missed seeing it in the background. #goblue
But he's a mochi as well.
I saw him cleaning boots with Sheeda talli at gate number 4 of GHQ RAWALPINDI.
In Pakistan: uttering any derogatory, insulting words against criminal gang in Pakistan Army is a crime punishable by death, mysterious disappearances without any trace. What a nice country to live in? Speaking as a US Citizen.
Great conversation Snehesh and Wajahat ... Good to get a very grounded perspective rather than the usual narrative
Damn, cool to see Waj!
Pak Army + Affiliates killed 2 PMs of Pak, ZA Bhutto and his daughter. Imran could be 3rd. But that will also see the demise of PA and Pak as a State.
not 2
3 Khan liyaqat ali khan ZAB and Benazeer bhotto
A very thought provoking assessment by WAK. One must take it seriously. Any elimination of IK will descend the country into any abyss from which it will be very difficult to come out
Thanks WSK. Always honest and saying it the way it is.
This program going to be interesting...Bcz I like to listen shenesh ...wajahat also bcz both are good in their field
Wajahat is informative and entertaining as always.
Great discussion! On a lighter note, I was initially really confused to see Binging with Babish on The Print
Quite interesting to see Wajahat who was anti-India vociferously all the time a few years back when he was in the pocket of the Pakistan army, now presenting a more balanced view about the overall situation. Despite this "unnatural transformation", I like his clarity and forthrightness in his interviews.
The chap was distinctly hawkish not so long ago
Don’t you worry. I’m still quite hawkish about India, especially when it comes to security affairs, minority rights and Kashmir. Just that this show wasn’t about India.
@@WajahatSKhan Indeed...you're the personification of lifafa journalism!
@@WajahatSKhan This closet Jihadi still has the gall to talk about minority rights after everything that has happened in Terroristan.
@@WajahatSKhan Fair point. Overall, it was an engaging conversation.
Hosts at theprint are so polite and wise to guide the conversation but never be intrrruptive and let the guests do the talking
Excellent presentation Wajahat :)
Shows subcontinent has world class Journalists ,making the sense of things happening in subcontinent
Wajahat is the most amazing journalist from Pakistan never anti India always pragmatic and grounded ...
Excellent analysis and meetup. Two good journalists and insightful discussion. What is sad is the current Pakistan situation. The political situation looks like Iranian situation in 1979 and how Shah of Iran n Sevak tried to suppress and resist popular peoples uprising. We all know how that panned out 😢
I don't think that is the correct comparison. Iran was about the overthrow of an existing govt. We are dealing with an opposition party here. That were out with a no confidence motion.
inshallah All is well but i think if indians really want to resolve everything with pakistan and doing business with very close neighbor like they fight since last 75 yrs do u agree with me its time to make good connection with the people of Pakistan and offcorse india is big and powerful country and also Pakistan in way of war also bull but indian analyst make some plan to helpout Pakistanis ppl without splitting pak like 1971 can we make a bright future open borders like European countries and make peace cz if this done india will rule the world and also pakistan progress
@@aliemraan8797 it is not India that has to resolve anything but Pakistan that has to resolve its differences with India. Give us a shout when you make your mind up. Until such time no talks as there is nothing to discuss.
Pakistan should first clear border issues with Afghanistan viz Durand line. Make peace with Taliban , then please have open borders with the Iran..
Then India will automatically become the friend of Pakistan
Excellent analysis by Wajahat!
The boys were always in town, they never left, they played khan like they've done with all political parties. However khan has shown some bone and steel fact is if elections happen today he will come back with a majority
I used to think that Wajahat was a Pakistani lover but he is a mere Army spokesmen. Lots all respect .
Absolutely correct Analysis Sir.
Well spoken journalist.
25:31 " house always wins." SG has said long ago.
In a casino. Pakistan= Casino and The House = Pakistan Army
@@rakadus yeah, that's correct.
@@rakadus #HowTheKorma ...even the naPakArmy can't Protect GHQ, PM House & CoteCommander - JinaHouse aren't Safe and the Captain ExNaPakPM is Surrounded by BulletProof for Protection... with Dharna at SC lsIamaBad & Lahor with Ajadi slogans..... this is why can't be as Safe in BhikariMuIk...??
Brilliant episode
Wajahat is well balanced and excellent analysis overall, love his style & confidence.
Love listening to Wajahat SKhan. Always talks sense..
Brilliant analysis by WSK. He's succinct, erudite and always, such a pleasure to listen to.
In his speech he did show videos of people identifying non pti workers breaking things around. I guess you missed out that part of his speech.
So law which pakistani army is using to try public in military courts is expired in 2019 now if they try to those laws will pakistani courts declare this move as unlawful???
and will they renew that law???
There WERE intelligence agents who raided the Corps commander house, quaint how there was no mention of how security seemed to have vanished that day
No mention of the torture and laathi charge on the people, the 70 people who have given their lives already
The PTI members that left, no mention of how much pressure they were under by the establishment
Just a few weeks ago Wajahat was all praise for IK and now distancing himself
Wajahat knows all this he is just deceitful, if he doesnt he is delusional
Interesting to see the Indian defence correspondent discussing with Pakistani defence correspondent on the fall of Pakistani military.
They talked about rise of Pakistani Military.
@@vinsin328 haha..true
the sound quality of Mr. Snehesh was unbearable. I hope you use a separate mic the next time.
Excellent articulation Wajahat 😮
The bigger they are,
The harder they fall.
"Fit hits the shan" 😂
Malik Riyaz is actual culprit n villain in Pakistan but no-one is even talking about him , not Government , not army n not even Imran Khan , Money Power , Epic .. Make him PM ! ☝️🤩👍
Indian media thought that there will be mutiny within the Army...no sir..This Army will stabilise Pakistan and then come for Indian Occupied Kashmir
Pakistani army can only occupy Pakistan so no worries Kashmir will be under India
Very well put...Khan is history...
You wish..
@@maliks472 #HowTheKorma ... even the naPakArmy can't Protect GHQ, PM House & CoteCommander - JinaHouse aren't Safe and the Captain ExNaPakPM is Surrounded by BulletProof for Protection... with Dharna at SC lsIamaBad & Lahor with Ajadi slogans..... this is why can't be as Safe in BhikariMuIk...??
No he will prevail aik call ki dare hai do maheene ki BAAT hai default ab paka hai
He is a wounded cornered tiger right now
Wajahat is always my favourite political analyst although I do have some different opinion on some topics but all over he is genious❤❤❤
He has got a beautiful voice.
Interesting how things change...he is the sort of guy who did the Pakistan Army's bidding, like reporting/ documentaries giving a positive spin. Such "journalists" were used to prop up Imran Khan. Now that his "side" has fallen out of favour he suddenly remembers all ills of Pakistan Army. A lot of hypocrisie going around....
My question is why there was no security at the gates of GHQ when GHQ is the real capital of Pakistan and a holy cow??? Looking at these videos it looks like they allowed the protesters to just come inside and do their things???
IKN is a injured lion and he is surrounded by hundreds of HYENAS go figure out what is next
That Pakistani expert is a mochi.
I saw him cleaning boots at gate number 4 of GHQ Rawalpindi
Great guest
You guys should do a weekly series focused on Pakistan India China issues I would watch it.
Seems like Wajahat has bended the knee to Munir. He will lose his credibility now
😂😂😂😂 I know this is serious stuff but it was hilarious
People always forget that Imran khan had his common people's support in place, only thereafter, establishment supported him. Establishment never rides old/weak horse.
They're certainly riding a corrupt and weak horse/donkey in the form of current Crime Minister Shehbaz Sharif
Old week horse? He is more famouse and popular.
Wajahat on "The Print". How the turntables. LOL
Love this Pak journalist
If only Imran Khan could wait upto October elections instead of madness of agitation
How that is going to help him? He will not be even allowed to contest.
Let's have healthy debate between Lala (Wajat) and Tharoor, I doubt kisiko kuch samaj ayega😂😂😂
For all his expertise, Wajahat has built a career out of ISPR propaganda machinery. Its only now that he is blindly supporting IK ,has open discord with present military establishment ,& is now "settled" in the US, he is talking sense & rather truthful analysis.
Spot on...wonder if he is still an active asset
@jashan. The only ones blind here are you two freaks. The official surveys shows IK's popularity at 70%, unofficially more than that. When Modi messed it up in covid, IK ran the country smoothly with his smart lockdowns strategy. The GDP was growing more than 6% before he was ousted. So, get a grip!
Secondly, he is not 'permanently settled' in the US. He moves frequently to and from Pakistan, the UK and the US. He had been in Pakistan recently a month or so back. Ignorant Indian assumptions at it best.
@@aqkhan6779 is he a us citizen?
Excellent vlog
A little more than a fortnight ago, Mr. Wajahat in his own Vlog had published a Report Card of present Pak Army Chief Mr. Asim Munir, in which he described Mr. Asim Munir a non-performing miltary chief who is facing dissent against him among his subordinate generals. He rebuked the army chief as a failure. Now in conversation with "The Print" he has totally changed his opinion about Asim Munir. His assertions may not be reliable.
Yes because that was then at that time, he had underestimated the cheif, what do you think?
Pakistan Zindabad.
Surprisingly all ppl attacking looks mature at the age of one trained personnels
In Pakistan: 24/7/365 Reign Of Terror, abductions, disappearances of anyone suspected of speaking bad against criminal gang of Pakistan Army, rampant corruption, black market, smuggling by criminal gang of Pakistan Army. Criminal Gang in Pakistan Army is not effected by bad economy because it has it's own money making system of black market, smuggling, corruption, separate economy from Pakistan's economy because Pakistan Army doesn't share it's economy with economy of Pakistanis. 99% Pakistanis live in another Pakistan and Pakistan Army live in another Pakistan. Pakistan Army owns Pakistan as a colony and 24 millions Pakistanis are slaves of Colonial Pakistan Army living in and ruling Pakistan from London's British Empire and USA.
Is it me or others that Snehesh and Wajahat looks like brothers from another mother?😀
Imran Khan and all other politicians and military leaders are big time hypocrites. If he really believed that Bengalis were mistreated why he didn't render an official apology when he was in power, something Bangladesh government was demanding for such a long time. He is currently down and he is just using the atrocities done by Pakistan army against Bengalis, in order to show that he is also a popular leader like Mujib-ur-rehman and to threaten Pakistani establishment with yet another division.
Pakistan army need to be held responsible for war crimes in Bangladesh and in Balochistann
Now the tanks are rusted, devlared by Chief Bajwa.
Bro bajwa never said the journalist made that story up plz do some research
Super program
Reverting back to 1971 ,this time into 5 tiny Nations..... Asim to be Yeheyaa khan, shahbaz sheriff to be the Bhatho...... & so on. Destruction & Devastation & .........i am so apprehensive..... Pensive... Only a miracle & divine intervention can save them from a catastrophe......
India should take a note that she has a madman as army cheif next door with his finger on Nuke button
No worries our Generals are going to sell the Nuke at the first best offer as all the families of Generals, Judges and Berucrates are settled in States, Austrailia and Europe and they will shift all these funds to their account leaving behind poor wretched Pakistanis who will die of hunger and misery
He is wrong the military had support of west Pakistan in 1971 now the military dosent have support of the remaining modern day Pakistan too ... There are fractures within the army otherwise how can someone enter the cantonment snd burn things ??!! So wajahat isnt logical at all ....he never was
The military doesn't require any support. You are illogical.
Good point that Wajahat missed
@@stahmad1983 you should listen to his former videos he is a puppet of army that's why he and lot like him has been surviving... Don't forget they residents and products of a "garrison state"..
His shows are not in English unfortunately.
Imran Khan's loss is Army's gain meaning thereby that Pakistan is destined to be ruled by the Army for another 75 years provided she survies until then.
Wajahat showing his true colors, told everyone this guy is an establishment lackey has no credibility dont be fooled by his recent sympathies for IK.
Never seen an army fighting it's own public.
All dictator armies fight their own public, isn't it?
every country has an army, but in Pakistans case, the army has a country
Cox unfortunately we have India who's always ready to colonize Pakistan just like Kashmir so mind your business...we love our Army.
@@honeynoor5351 nobody is falling for that anymore. your obviously a ghq slave. how much are you getting paid to spew their propaganda???
I didn't knew Gippy Grewal became a journalist
Plotistan. I believe corner plotistan is a better way to identify the mulk.
Am really disappointed to hear pedestrian analysis of the ground realities in Pakistan by WH. By demonstrating such a miopic mindset , I pitty the university students of WH. The Print could perhaps have spoken to a Pakistani journalist with an open mind and unbiased mindset. WH must realize that speaking in a particular style and jugglery of words does not make a person sound like an intellectual.
I agree this time its different from '71. This time the people of Pakistan are aware and they are standing strong with Imran Khan.
Totally a wrong country.this guy is trying to glorify army.pak is a failed state.responsibility goes to munir and his ancestors.
Bruh
Lol....firing in sir
THIS IS OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM OF OUR UNITED PUNJAB, NO MORE BLOOD SHED ON OUR LANDS OF PUNJAB(THIS IS OUR NATIONAL ANTEM OF UNITED PUNJAB(Jana Gana Mana - India National Anthem English lyrics
I may be wrong but your guest was sounding like spokesperson of pakistan army, I can hatred towards imran Khan but, he comparing pakistani army chief as king aurther and using army act as master move(it's obvious).
Yeah, you're definitely wrong.
Bro if you check his videos he's very much against the army dumbass
No, he is pro-Imran, Imrandu to be exact. He is deeply criticizing the army and being sarcastic.
@@Tpie #HowTheKorma ...even the naPakArmy can't Protect GHQ, PM House & CoteCommander - JinaHouse aren't Safe ...!!
The Captain ExNaPakPM is Surrounded by BulletProof for Protection... !!!
With Dharna at SC lsIamaBad & Lahor with Ajadi slogans..... this is why can't be as Safe in BhikariMuIk...??
He is on ISI payroll
Its always interesting to watch WSK. Of course he's literally been the face of Pak Army in the past, whats really interesting is the contrast of this video with Waj's interview with Adil Raja which was much more accomodating of Niazi and way harsher on Pak Army
Try going to Pakistan and talk
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
How many times did he advertise his blogs 😂😂😂😂
Even the Pakistan journalists are champions in begging
Make “Maula Jatt” the PM of Paxtan
we stand with khan always
So Doval's hope to bring a revolt in Pakistan has backfired
Pakistan army has lost a lot of ground already. One thing that may be permanent is that of a coup.. There may never be a military coup again in Pakistan. Army may have to settle for working from behind. Also now it will be difficult to get extensions.. This is the minimum that has happened.
Guest is well informed n good speaker
Gen Ehsan was DG ISI and then COAS!!
WSK,you disappointed Print..they were expecting something else
imran khan had a chance to reform pakistan towards a normal country... power got to him !!
Pakistan fighting for its freedom