I've raced both a steel keirin bike and a modern bike on an indoor velodrome, and it's true what you say, the njs ones aren't twitchy as such, but the little bit of spring in the frame under full power causes the bottom bracket to oscillate side to side just a bit whereas it won't do this on a modern bike. This can be disconcerting and if you aren't ready for it can make it hard to hold a line in a sprint. The higher the cadence the more pronounced it is. That being said, the steel bike is still my go to for everything cos it's awesome
Thank you for your comment :) I wanted to ask, do the majority of Keirin bikes have this type of handling, feeling? What am I to expect from this type of frame? From what I have read it seems that the handling and feeling of it is unlike any other type of bike and I am really curious to experiencing this. So I am trying to understand in theory its many idiosyncrasies. Unfortunately where I live (Dominican Republic) there are no frames of this type so I will need to order the frame, no possibility of riding it in person first. I am doing research as I would like to try a Keirin frame, even if I have to restore, but having trouble finding affordable ones. Any help would be most appreciated
Nice video and gorgeous bike! I had an NJS frame from a different builder that was my daily driver on the road for a few years. Twitchy, yes, but once I got used to it every other bike felt sluggish. They’re just so fun to ride, really got to get another.
Dura cranks are common in the keirin world, but I like Sugino 75. The Clarialance on the tires is tight and cool. The sticker on the vehicle registration is also great. I ride a SAMSON, a 1994 Meccanico Giro, and a 1974 Everest that no longer exists.
Very cool, every time I see a cool JAPANESE Bike it always reminds me of a fuji bike poster that was with a good looking blond cyclist standing with the bicycle, anyone knows of this poster, been looking for this poster for nearly 20 years. I had a custom built track frame built by a U.S. builder and it was twitchy as well after a few years of riding on the road well before the fixie era I had it converted to a road bike by the original builder, he added all the needed braze-on and modified the hanger so it could accept a rear mech end result a total beast and it was a blast to ride, on curvy down hill runs it absolutely carved up the road way and yes there was major toe wheel over lap but I never had any problems at all. When other cyclist would look at it they thought I was some kind of a nut case riding this thing on the road.
That Panasonic frame is made with Kaisei tubing which is the good stuff. We need more NJS goodness on youtube, is it possible we could get a proper bike check on it? Also, that Affinity bike Jazz was riding is lovely one of my best friends has the same color.
@@AndreasIhm forget about the demand. Most people don’t know what they want until they get it, often times needed to be spoon fed something to realize how nice it is and how much they enjoy it. Do the bike check! We need more track bike and NJS content on this site
Thank you for answering ,,,I just finished a Nagasawa ,,I’m new to track cycling .. I see I got to learn a lot from your video.,,, I’m going with a 53-18… I hope it’s not “soft”.. let me know what would be considered racing gears
Hi im gerson dalid from the philippines, im eatching your vlog always its nice and exciting. I have a panasonic bike japan made but i had a hard time of seeking my 27 abd 1 and 1/4 tire, can i asko you 1 pair of my need tire for free even second hand its ok. Thanks
@@aquilonianace4791 true. I didnt get the chance to practice with someone elses collection bike. And it wont happen. It was a one time thing and I feel lucky that nothing happened to the bike. Also, there are no warm up periods before competition on the track, and I live 8 hours away from that facility. It was a unique opportunity and I had to live with the results. Thanks for warching!
They basically rode these bikes globally - for decades - until alloy came along, then carbon. Not sure why it seems so foreign to you, purpose built track bike on a track?
That's the NISSAN SKYLINE of the Cycling World.
nah, I think the skyline is Nagasawa or Samson
@@KuontttSamson illusion forsure. Road my buddies because we're about the same size. God it was so nice.
You can actually see the R badge!
It looks so simple, yet so elegant. The spokes when they are spinning looked georgeous
I have a Panasonic Keirin just like this one. I find the bike to be very precise, responsive, and it obeys my every command, not twitchy at all.
yeah i think that guy is just a kook and isnt used to riding a good bike
I've raced both a steel keirin bike and a modern bike on an indoor velodrome, and it's true what you say, the njs ones aren't twitchy as such, but the little bit of spring in the frame under full power causes the bottom bracket to oscillate side to side just a bit whereas it won't do this on a modern bike. This can be disconcerting and if you aren't ready for it can make it hard to hold a line in a sprint. The higher the cadence the more pronounced it is.
That being said, the steel bike is still my go to for everything cos it's awesome
Thank you for your comment :) I wanted to ask, do the majority of Keirin bikes have this type of handling, feeling? What am I to expect from this type of frame? From what I have read it seems that the handling and feeling of it is unlike any other type of bike and I am really curious to experiencing this. So I am trying to understand in theory its many idiosyncrasies. Unfortunately where I live (Dominican Republic) there are no frames of this type so I will need to order the frame, no possibility of riding it in person first. I am doing research as I would like to try a Keirin frame, even if I have to restore, but having trouble finding affordable ones. Any help would be most appreciated
Amazing for you to honor Toshifumi Kodama's name by racing this beauty in a Keirin race! Beautiful shots of the bike too!
Nice video and gorgeous bike! I had an NJS frame from a different builder that was my daily driver on the road for a few years. Twitchy, yes, but once I got used to it every other bike felt sluggish. They’re just so fun to ride, really got to get another.
Thanks for watching! I hope you find one some day soon :)
Such a gem! I really appreciate and admire Jazz's respect for that bike.
That bike is so slick!
Dura cranks are common in the keirin world, but I like Sugino 75. The Clarialance on the tires is tight and cool. The sticker on the vehicle registration is also great. I ride a SAMSON, a 1994 Meccanico Giro, and a 1974 Everest that no longer exists.
that bike is so awesome
i give you credit for riding it as the stering for sure is very sensitive
Thanks! It was quite an adventure !
Nice! Bent my 1983 Panasonic model track bike, now sadly a wall hanger!
Oh! That’s too bad. I am sure it looks good though. Thanks for watching!
epic bike! thanks for sharing
Wow! Effectivement tout un honneur! Très impressionnant comme vélo 👏
Very cool, every time I see a cool JAPANESE Bike it always reminds me of a fuji bike poster that was with a good looking blond cyclist standing with the bicycle, anyone knows of this poster, been looking for this poster for nearly 20 years.
I had a custom built track frame built by a U.S. builder and it was twitchy as well after a few years of riding on the road well before the fixie era I had it converted to a road bike by the original builder, he added all the needed braze-on and modified the hanger so it could accept a rear mech end result a total beast and it was a blast to ride, on curvy down hill runs it absolutely carved up the road way and yes there was major toe wheel over lap but I never had any problems at all. When other cyclist would look at it they thought I was some kind of a nut case riding this thing on the road.
Warming up on rollers to race Keirin on a JDS bike. Just doesn't get much better than that..... Sparks in Daytona
Wow. Gorgeous.
its a beautiful track bike
That clearance at 6:52 🤌🤌🤌 are those 23c tubulars?
Those are 25c. I think true njs tubulars are 19-20c
@@AndreasIhm it's strictly 22mm.
@@sengtry3244 thanks for sharing that info! And thanks for watching :)
@@AndreasIhm No worries mate! I am a huge njs bikes lover, having several myself. You looked good on the bike by the way. Ride hard and stay safe!
So cool. Thank you. 😀
Classy! Surprisingly chain tug 6:43 isn't what we usually see on bikes of this breed. Anyone?
It was built like that by our master keirin rider. So there was no way I’d remove it. Thanks for watching :)
i have a pair of these tensioners they are NJS stamped
Très cool les gars!!
Allo!!!
Post the full race
Where can i buy a keirin bike never user ?
That Panasonic frame is made with Kaisei tubing which is the good stuff. We need more NJS goodness on youtube, is it possible we could get a proper bike check on it? Also, that Affinity bike Jazz was riding is lovely one of my best friends has the same color.
If there is demand for a bike check…
@@AndreasIhm merci pour votre réponse frèro
@@AndreasIhm forget about the demand. Most people don’t know what they want until they get it, often times needed to be spoon fed something to realize how nice it is and how much they enjoy it. Do the bike check! We need more track bike and NJS content on this site
Just wow🔥🔥
Whoa! 😲
What Nitto dropbar do you use?
@@cerryoi7774 hi, it was not my bike so I dont really know.
@@AndreasIhmowh can you tell me the color of the frame ?
@ I am not sure. I say silver, perhaps there is a specific paint code
@@AndreasIhm ?
it must be damn stressful to ride on that bike given the fact of its history and that you're not the owner!
Absolutely! It was fun to ride, but I did not dare to take any risk. Thanks for watching
What’s the gearing….. plz… beautiful bike
I believe the gearing was 51/14. It was to small to be competitive. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for answering ,,,I just finished a Nagasawa ,,I’m new to track cycling .. I see I got to learn a lot from your video.,,, I’m going with a 53-18… I hope it’s not “soft”.. let me know what would be considered racing gears
@@tongalizia3175 it will be a good easy gear to start riding in the streets. For velodrome usage, you might want to go for a 15
it's my dream 😍
Anyone has some ideas on the frame size, please?
It would be considered as a 55cm.
NJS frame size is a well regulated thing.
@@AndreasIhm was the bike flexing!?
@@lucfournier8222 no. It’s a stiff enough frame for us mere mortals.
Stem is to blame for the handling
ratio?
Cant remember, probably 51-14 or 51-15x thanks for watching :)
Gros bike!!
Keirin bike looks strange with clipless pedals
Hi im gerson dalid from the philippines, im eatching your vlog always its nice and exciting.
I have a panasonic bike japan made but i had a hard time of seeking my 27 abd 1 and 1/4 tire, can i asko you 1 pair of my need tire for free even second hand its ok. Thanks
les gros b-rolls à fin!!
Yes!!! Thanks for your help !
Did that guy have hairy legs ?
Try practicing first
What do you mean? :) I think I have enough keirin practice in my life. 😋 trust me
@@AndreasIhm
"I can't handle the bike at high speed"
Just going by your words
@@aquilonianace4791 true. I didnt get the chance to practice with someone elses collection bike. And it wont happen. It was a one time thing and I feel lucky that nothing happened to the bike.
Also, there are no warm up periods before competition on the track, and I live 8 hours away from that facility.
It was a unique opportunity and I had to live with the results.
Thanks for warching!
They basically rode these bikes globally - for decades - until alloy came along, then carbon. Not sure why it seems so foreign to you, purpose built track bike on a track?
Clip less is not authentic.
Sorry, I could not get shoes.