How a Septic System is Installed | This Old House
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- The biological treatment septic system gets installed at the Westerly house.
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It’s time for the sophisticated septic system to be installed at the Westerly house. The 1500 gallon primary and secondary tanks are buried into the ground. Installer Rick Pezza shows Richard Trethewey the steps, starting with a filtered pump that draws liquid in short cycles from the second tank to a treatment pod. In this pod, the dirty liquid drips down over hanging filter sheets filled with microorganisms that convert the ammonia into nitrogen. Through this biologic process, nitrogen gas gets released into the atmosphere, oxygenated water returns to the main tank, and the remaining treated liquid goes down through the sand filtered field.
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Good gracious that is an extremely complicated system. Can't imagine the install cost or ongoing maintenance!
Exactly what I was thinking.
@A I It is a problem when they're required by law in most municipalities... Better check the local rules and the fine print on your property before thinking you can avoid it...
Installcost total. 23 to 28. And maintinance agreement about 150. 200 a year
We do. Tons of them.
those that live in areas that are densely populated and are vulnerable to wastewater (near streams/lakes) can usually afford this level of treatment. Better way to go is to use composting toilets; use the drainfield just for graywater.
TOH please make longer videos on these subjects. I'm sure you have plenty of footage. 10-15 minutes is perfect. Everybody loves all the guys and gals and we'll watch I promise😊
@@0753m not really, for the most part this is not a DIY program, they just explain concepts and show some work here and there
They more they expained, the less Inunderstood. Lol.
Grammar dude, they need to draw you pictures.
Told my wife, "lets see what This Old House has on this... ive seen a number of ways..."
Then got confused and i think there is a recommended video of a girl that cries crystals in India coming up next.....
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At least I'm not the only one
This is a very complicated system with basically a mini lift station within the system itself! Not sure where this is but because it’s close to a lake it’s a special system to mitigate contaminating the lake. The first part is more of a conventional tank. The pump in the second compartment is more of a mini lift station that lifts filtered water to the treatment pod (to basically be resent through the tank again to help sustain bacteria that are already there (taking the oxygen out of the nitrogen) before the gases are released in the atmosphere.
...I love it when technology is introduced to make things easier but it complicates it. I can only imagine the price tag at the end. Digging a hole, doing your thing and covering it after the paper work is done should be enough ...my opinion
easy week-end project.
Actually little less time then that if your good
@@toddreynolds8875 ya sure
The requirements there are basically forcing an individual homeowner to have something nearly as complex as the municipal treatment plants have. By requiring the ammonia nitrogen to be treated, the 2nd tank makes this much more complex than a traditional or standard gravity septic tank and discharge lines. Now a pump and electricity are involved.
No second tank. , just a standard 2 compartment tank. (Which most all tanks are now. ) all it is standerd concrete septic tank with different risers. They work well. Been in business since the late 1960's. All up and down the Oregon Washington coast. Now very popular elsewhere.
@@toddreynolds8875 I should not have referred to it as a 2nd tank. It is, however, an additional compartment or as the guy in the video referred to it as a "pod" where the media filters are housed. This "pod" is not part of the traditional standard septic systems in my area.
@@mkodjohnson they work. Well tho. They come from Oregon. Orenco company. The pod end has been used on coast out there since the 70's. Our state. Drew a line in the sand in 2005. Anything within a mile of ocean or salt pond areas. Has to be treated to denite it. Then into. Sand filter if crappy water table. Or then from pod gravity to to flow diffusers or stone trench system if deep water table. Expensive. About. 23 to 28. Total. Compared to. Conventional for. 8 to 14. In this area. Im an installer designer in same aea this was filmed
@@toddreynolds8875 👍
an its still doesnt seem like it will last long trash still going to get through to the other side
One thing I've always wondered about with water treatment is how you handle any household cleaning chemicals that get into the water. What happens when people flush a bucket of bleach that they were using to clean the bathroom? Doesn't that kill all the "good" bacteria you need for the organic material removal? For a small, individual treatment system like this I'd think that would be an even bigger problem.
There are certain things you do not put into your septic system. Bleach is one of them. If you don't control what goes in you'll kill the action and regret it.
This could be a series of videos or 1 20-30 minute one with animations and background about why it's important, what it costs, what types of communities do and do not need this system, the maintenance expenses, etc. Some folks have discussed some of these things in the comments but not everyone will read those. I'm in favor of a septic system video series!
There are SO MANY parts to this that will break and need to be replaced. They're going to need to fix this like every year forever.
Welcome to modern construction. Built more complicated, yet built cheaper at the same time.
@@cup_and_cone Hmm, that is a tad worrying as in low installation costs but ongoing maintenance costs might be eyewatering in the long term.
It didn't look particularly "robust" either.
Pretty reliable just a well pump. Have installed many many over the years
They have been in business since the 1960's
@@cup_and_cone Well the other option is to not build a home on an "ecologically sensitive" area. Just saying. There's a reason why living next to the water can cost so much.
Seems more like a mini water treatment plant then a septic tank.
That's exactly what it is. And for good reason. Though expensive
This is why I’m happy I live near Lake Michigan
Wow could have not been more complex of a system. Hope my old gravity feed never goes out. 50 yes and going strong.
Depends on how many beans and how much fiber you eat ;)
I'm curious is to how much difference it is fix the septic system like this than the regular way of doing it
The filtration systems similar to a fish tank. Dumping ammonia and nitrites from a septic system directly into a waterway, or into the groundwater that directly feeds a water wave kills fish and promotes algae blooms.
Biological filtration and gas exchange reduce ammonia levels to practically zero. Nitrates and nitrite are far less toxic. Aerobic bacteria are also generally more successful than anaerobic bacteria and breaking down solid wastes to safer compounds.
15k vs 30-50k
They run between 23 to 29. Grand complete installed , wired , and clean up work. We do alot of them in this. Area
This would be a great pond filter
That's exactly what I was thinking or for a huge aquarium.
Thats a high maintenance high cost system which makes the owners think twice before taking a dump.
that gas station bathroom is starting to look better
And an "estimated" cost to the customer .... $75,000.00 (Bend over)
Rick S. Where’s the ky?
About 25,ooo. But still crazy
The title is misleading. The video is about how the septic system works and not about the installation.
lol
at the pace Richard and that septic guy were talking gave me the impression they were late for something lol.
Hope they put in a backup generator for when the power goes out.
No power = limited to no septic use anyways so its fine. If they have well water then this is a non issue. The cycle only continues when waste/water is being introduced to the tanks. Even if you just finished a shower and lost power there is enough room to hold everything until power is restored before it backs up.
it would have been nice to see the final appearance of the whole system
That is the most complex septic system I've ever seen
Nah. Very simple very reliable. Do tons of them there by far the best denite system on the market plus they been making it for 50 yrs.
@@toddreynolds8875 how much do you charge to install a system like this one?
This system costs so much I'd rather poop in a porta-potty
Most municipalities require by law either a sewer system hook up or a septic system be installed on the property if anyone is going to be living on it and this is usually so strict you can't build anything on the property until that is done first... So, even if you use something else like composting doesn't mean you can avoid this in most places around the country... Some states, like TN, don't even let you dump gray water on the ground...
There's a lot of one size fits all in the regulations most local municipalities follow and enforce... There are some places that don't have to deal with it, at least as much, but that's rare and depends on your specific location...
@@ZeoCyberG I thought the USA was supposed to be "The land of the free"? guess not.
@@davenz000 Something to keep in mind is nothing is ever absolute. Freedoms have limits when they start infringing on the freedom of others and responsibility to prevent abuse of those freedoms... Unless you don't care about the environment, health, and people's lives then things like making sure waste is properly handled is usually a high priority... While the need for this system is just because it's near a body of water, regular gravity based system wouldn't work there but that's the trade off if you want a property that near the body of water... The main problem with the system is the tendency to put in one size fits all rules instead of a case by case adjustment and we live in a society that has become deadly afraid of liability, so you need to find an engineer to sign off on anything non-standard as no one in charge is going to take the responsibility if something goes wrong...
@@davenz000 Unlike an animal, a human if left to their own devices, will ruin their own environment. The rules are made by the few that care to protect us from the many that don't. The people behind our property wanted to build a stable and keep 6 horses. We all have drilled wells so us and our neighbors wanted an environmental assessment to determine the extent and means of waste management. The assessment was done, an order of waste management was set forth and we allowed the project to proceed without protest. Only a year later, they had contaminated their own domestic water source and were forced to install expensive filtration systems so they could continue to use their own well.
ZeoCyberG I still pour my used engine oil in the grass if it came from the ground it can go back in the ground
This guy doesn't let people talk
Yeh he's annoying for that
It would have been nice of them to tell us what type of septic system this is?
Get Randy Quad to come and try it out with his RV.
Shitters full
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3:33 why did you interrupt him? That's rude. I was enjoying his explanation.
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what happens when you get 5 inches of rain over your sand filter?
Outhouse it is.
Holy hell, I cant even imagine what that would cost, and as well, the upkeep for that over regular acreage septic systems. When this system dies, whats the replacement cost, 50k?
Probably $100,000+ for the whole system.
WOW A homeowners nightmare
That tank better last a lifetime. Probably cost something ridiculous
Just a standard 1500 gallon 2 compartment concrete tank.
Interesting. I've installed a million systems in Georgia. Haven't seen one like this. I do like it. What state is this in? What is it called?
So we've now reached the butt end of a home, I suppose.
insane
And somehow drain field systems worked good for 30 years but now we need to do this. 3M can dump crap where ever they want but I need $30000 to poop.
The problem is population density. I live near some large springs that have deteriorated because of nitrates. The nitrate levels get so high the polluted the ground water. If less people lived in an area we could all use the old drainfield system. Counties allow folks to live on lots that are measured in square feet, verses by the acre, but still have septic systems instead of installing central sewer. We could all be free to have simple stuff if we agreed to not live on point 1 or point 2 acre lots in subdivisions.
I don't think Richard was paying attention to anything the contractor was saying. Especially at three end when Richard cut him off and asked him if he was ready to get going. Hello? He would have been done if he didn't have to talk with you! I always got the feeling that Richard likes the TV camera just a little more than the other cast members.
Talk about reinventing the wheel. I bet this system won’t be maintenance free for long.
I feel like I could have a family of 12 eat taco bell for every meal 4 times a day and this septic system would handle it no problem
4 minute video feels like a documentary
I decided to rent an apartment after watching this video
Zero maintenance too!
This looks very expensive
Septic system should depend on electricity. Just dumb.
It does what do you think the pump runs off of
You got no choice. If you have crappy water tables.and need to elevate system water don't run up hill to well.
@@stankyhobo2000 Meant shouldN'T. My bad.
Oh it changes nitrogen into oxygen... what??
In my area, this system is running $70k to $100k. And with all the pumps, filters, etc., prone to failures. Plus they must be monitored by a third party for perpetuity. Avoid this type of system if at all possible.
in California tanks with treatment chambers will be mandatory soon... all waste must be treated before it exits to the environment... the future is here
What could possibly go wrong? ;)
does anyone know a cheap way to fix or replace clogged septic bleeder lines that have alot of roots that have grown and clogged, one of the lines is leaking bad and keeps leaking and leaking, cant figure out why, plumbers saying i need a whole new drain field.
If your fill lines are compromised you need new lines
@@stankyhobo2000 the plumbers said they may just be clogged and can clean them out some how. We're trying to sell this house asap for cash as is where is no inspections of financing. Like 1/3rd of what its worth just to get it gone. Ill disclose all I know about the issues. But I need a cheap way to stop the leak. Also there saying I got water running or some water source filling up my septic tank possibly but we don't see anything running and have alot of the plumbing cut off we don't use.
Where are you located
@@toddmendoza1296 middle Georgia
Save for a new DF . Get the area cleared of trees if possible where the DF exists . Nothing will work except R&R . Sorry . Best of luck
The bacteria are doing nuclear fission splitting atoms!
Think I'd rather have an outhouse and the have the shower, sink, etc water go out on the ground than deal with this maintenance nightmare !
Maintenance is nothing , they. Work. Very well. Made for high water table areas. Have installed a ton on them. Plus they been in business since like around the late 60's. Or 70's in Oregon and Washington. There based in Oregon
Rid-X ....
Sounds like it won’t work without electricity
Plant a pond with poop eating plants. Way cheaper and no fail no electricity needed.
i love having a cesspool in my backyard. you get all of the benefits of being at a sewer treatment plant without ever leaving your house
@@TBoy205 and with plants!
Where's all the mini septic pump systems for the birds, deer, coyote, frogs, fish and moose? They must laugh.
Overkill
Compost toilet everytime
This is probably a little over $5 grand and in reality that isn’t a big deal if you want plumbing that works.
23 to 29 grand installed plus designer fees. 2 or 3 grand more
Does this guy understand chemistry? There is no oxygen in ammonia. Ammonia is NH3.
@3:05 they eat oxygen out of the nitrogen lol
@@mrbadguy4929 Maybe he is talking about Nitrate or Nitrite? Still this guy need a crash course in basic chemistry.
What a maintenance nightmare .
Nope super easy super reliable. And high quality. Gould well pumps. Stuffs so clean. They use. Artesian well pumps. Instead of effluent pumps
same video 13-jun-19
Good grief.
Title V are a racket
Could have done away with the advantex system and just used the sand filter. Advantex systems are a maintenance nightmare.
That's too much stuff to go wrong
Selling stuff just for profits
That the customer really don't need.
Waste
Let the man talk lol
Wow,... looks very expensive. Trucker bombs are cheap
The show is called this old house, not this brand new over engineered expensive as hell house.
Lol
what a nightmare
I’m just gonna go poop in the woods
it's looking like the best option
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This was a bad video. I usually love all “this old house stuff” but not this oneS
Good grief. No thanks. I’ll buy the other house away from the creek.
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another example of the government in action.
love this building channel like if you agree
Waiting for the armchair septic experts to state how this was done wrong because they don’t understand code varies in different areas and what budgets are.
S N I think you better have a big budget for this one. This thing makes going behind the bushes a reasonable option. 😁
I'm a septic expert that lives at my mother's basement. This was done wrong.
And complaints about “environmentalists” because apparently not wanting sewage contamination into aquifers or sensitive wildlife that is reflected in property values is now a political thing.
@@shinybaldy what are you talking about? Lol. Here in California there are a lot of septic tanks. My parents farm house has a septic tank. Many unincorporated town here still are on septic.
palillo2006 I’m perfectly fine with septic systems - my comment was aimed at ppl whining about having to treat sewage. I think you missed the other video - where the comments quickly became inundated with ppl ranting about having to put a system in place.
Tooooo much.
This is what you get when you do urban sprawl.
Maybe don't live in the middle of nowhere.
Just because you can buy land and a house far away doesn't mean you should.
The underground services aren't built out that far.
Slow down!
Wack
This made no sense. Looks like the nasty stuff went straight into the neighboring creek.
Ewe
Recommend not installing