The Dissapointing downfall of AFL 23 | And how they can save it
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
- For those of us, who don’t possess the talent or the athleticism to make into a professional sport, Sport video games are as close as we’ll ever get to living out our fantasies of being on the big stage, kicking that goal, scoring that touchdown, hitting that 3 pointer, to win your team the championship game. We know the main ones are Madden, nba 2k, fifa, or EAFC whatever it’s called now. Some of the most popular sports in the world Garner the most demand and the most budget for video games. But what happens when your sport is a bit more Niche? What happens when your sport is played professionally in only one country. AFL fans and in particular, AFL fans who happen to be massive nerds, such as yours truly, have been crying out for an AFL video game from a big company like EA or 2K, it's been a long time dream of ours. And last year, it seemed like this dream was finally going to become a reality. AFL 23, had easily the most hype, the most budget, and the most promise of any AFL video game in history. And yet, as of recording this video on the 9th of January The player numbers on PC are in the single digits. So what the hell happened? Today we’re talking about the Bitterly disappointing downfall of AFL 23.
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Fun fact: contrary to popular belief, AFL 23 is not named because it’s set in the year 2023, but because it was 23% completed upon release.
Wow that’s cool😊
The reference to playing the wrong song at the Gabba for the elimination final in 2022 at 9:25 😂
Petition to make big-ant reduce the price of the game so it's actually worth buying for those who still want the up-to-date AFL experience. The fact it's still $100 to this day is ludicrous
Phenomenal video egg! I just pray that one day we get an AFL game that lives up to the hype that AFL 23 got
I’m in Texas so I was excited for a game to play. When I saw the price and all the glitches and crashes, I passed. Maybe a “realistic “ game isn’t possible so they someone should make an arcade game. Like NBA Jams or NFL Blitz.
Play Evo 2 and AFL 99, they are the best AFL games imo
i have a bad feeling that big ant has ruined the future for afl video games, but who knows, the next game might be a revival of the games
No one is ever going to trust an afl game on release again
Ross is not a good bloke at all, he trash talks peoples mums if they criticise him, he also threatens people. He is very up himself and he works with awful people like Twistie3. I knew the game would be terrible as AFL Live 1 was the worst game ever in AFL history. I will give him credit he has made good cricket games with DBC14 being amazing, Cricket 19 being great and Cricket 22 being average. He should just stick with cricket, give the license back to Wicked Witch even though they were mediocre they had been improving over the years and their CEO doesn't attack and threaten people over criticism and is actually a decent person and listened to me when I had a question even though I was very critical of the Wicked Witch games too. The only thing Big Ant have ever been good at are the graphics and the cut scenes other than that the game still doesn't even fully work properly after all the updates. The Xbox people got robbed, they promised a game mode and never delivered (I was actually heavily against the Ultimate Team but it was still a broken promise to anyone else) There is no way they released the wrong version of the game, that's just an excuse to how horrible it was because if they did release the wrong version they could have easily changed it to the correct version. Good job on not being scared and actually speaking your mind saying exactly what you think about the game. I have been trying to say the exact same things but because I am seen as the villain of the community no one listens. We need bigger AFL Community youtubers to actually speak the truth for once or else nothing good will ever happen. Shame on Twistie3 and Caden MacDonald for selling out, lying to their fans hyping the game up knowing how bad it really was. Wanna know why I don't like those 2 in the first place? that is why.
Excellent video mate!! Tweeted him yesterday regarding Pro Team and he just said that the rosters will be updated. STILL NO PRO TEAM, no tweet about it since June either. It's criminal at this stage
Thanks mate hopefully we get something soon
The photo of the EEL eric hipwood
Stoody raging has made my day LMAO
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed!
I hope to see a wwe-style 'Joe Danger' sign at the gabba mext season
27:12 god that’s a blast from the past 😂 great video egg ❤️
Thanks bro haha
Eggward, you fail to disappoint 😂
It's sad.
BigAnt legitimately revolutionised Cricket games in 2017.
Altering the camera to the behind view (when batting) was unlike any other previous Cricket game and made it a huge step up. There were some bugs, but with some patches and over subsequent versions it became a genuinely good game - not just a game you play because you feel like you have to support it.
Still haven’t brought this game, I probably won’t until the update comes out
Great video mate
Thanks mate
The game is not fun, that's the issue, and its not fun because the controls suck and you can't even get a running game going. I hate fending off with the thumbstick, its not intuitive, there are too many different buttons you need to recognize and press in a microsecond. That's why previous games had several commands on the same button, just different actions depending if you have the ball or not, and they made sense.
I completely forgot that the game was sitting in my steam browser collecting dust until you mentioned it.
Nothing tops the mascot manor on dsi
Man I loved my Rugby League games from big ant but I don’t trust them anymore.
As a rugby union fan, I'm really hoping Big Ant pull through and deliver with Rugby 24 but between this and cricket 24, I'm expecting the worst.
March updates were pretty good but still.needs more game modes
Loving the off season content egg, keep it up!
Cheers bro!
Elite video mate.
Well summed up.
Honestly is hard to decided whats more disappointing, the game itself or Ross's attitude and behaviour towards his loyal customers.
the video game industry sucks man, they overwork everyone involved because they’re too cheap to hire enough staff in the first place and then release unfinished games because they set unrealistic deadlines. Developers are encouraged to do overpromise to drive pre-orders and so every big release is a let-down.
Fifa, 2k, and the other major sports games have had decades of development going into them and they tried to launch this AFL game with all the same features as them straight up. I think they needed to start modestly or wait at least another year before releasing (but there were probably contracts with the AFL and distributors which prevented that).
i like this game more then Jarrod berry’s performance in the grand final.
I don’t like either lmao
Hey I’m on this hawk699 on big footy hahaha lol but good video bro
Stoppage feast game ain't flowing like the evo series was.
Great video, I was gonna make a video on the downfall myself, idk if I will now 😅
Keep it up Egg
Make it anyway mate
@@eggfooty I’ve decided to do it on pro team itself now
Amazing video! I played this game around launch and it really did fell rough. To be fair I only played like 1 game because my brother likes this stuff but yeah.
True
This is one of my favourite eggfooty vids, very excited for the future of this amazing channel!
Glad you enjoy it!
I love Eggfooty man.
Great video, mate. I've since got a refund on playstation 5, I bought it on day 1, being so keen for it. Some patches made it better then some other things would break. Glad I got a full refund now. I think I'd only buy it again if it was $40 Max.
Very Good Video about the entire mess that was AFL 23 and where we are now...
To be honest myself. I don’t have much confidence in any of the updates for AFL 23 that will come this season.
In fact, the less than stellar launches of Cricket 24 and TieBreak along with the delays in Rugby 24 makes me think things are in serious trouble at Big Ant. To have one game come out with major issues is one thing, to have two come out with major issues is concerning, to have three come out with major issues is a trend and a pretty bad one to have.
I’m starting to honestly think that there are some serious issues going on behind the scenes at Big Ant right now and they’re not exactly inspiring my confidence right now. I’d love for them to prove me wrong, but I’ve got a pretty good feeling they will not I’m afraid.
This seems like a company in a spiraling downfall or being crunched by a parent company who just doesn't care... Reminds me a lot of the Motorsport Games mess that has happened over the past few years that has finally led to them losing all of their licenses and rumored at the moment to be close to be declaring bankruptcy...
Shame to see them fall so far down after their promising titles with AFL Live, Don Bradman Cricket and Rugby League Live 3.
That's the most disheartening things about this, they were legitimately good and did listen to feedback from fans when they did those games but now, they've done a complete 180... What the hell even happened here?
If they can turn it around, Awesome! I'll be very happy but hopefully if it doesn't work out with Big Ant, We've got someone else out there to pick up the pieces and hopefully make the AFL game we've been waiting for.
Until then, I guess I just gotta use Footy Fanatic FX to sim my fantasy Aussie Rules league.
Great Video Egg, Just hope we get a good AFL Game soon otherwise the end of AFL Videos Games could come soon
I hope so too
I made a decent contribution in the build up on the AFL23 BigFooty thread - the most amazing thing was we were really the only ones who knew anything about the game at any given time. Pretty much any news about the game that got to the masses trickled out from the posts and comments of those threads. The behaviour of Ross' at times was pathetic given the state of the game and the good-faith already lost pre-release post-delay. He made it seem like we'd asked him to kill a child in wanting answers to basic questions such as what features the game would actually launch with and *when* the game was actually going to release, what time - this was never answered as far as I know, if it was it wasn't more than a couple hours before).
Got all the feedback he needed in those long, long weeks as to how public opinion would go once it actually dropped. To me the writing was on the wall when the only thing anyone wanted was just a simple gameplay preview - one quarter of the game actually being played outside of the press event on a near-release build of the game - was never given and treated as an unreasonable expectation for a game that was already meant to be released.
If anyone's interested in reading the shitshow for themselves there's the last couple hundred pages of the original thread tell most of the story, as well as the launch thread which is just funny to read in hindsight now:
www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/afl-23-ps-steam-releasing-may-4-xbox-tbc.1289336/
www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/afl-23-launch-thread-xbox-release-date-tbc.1355269/
Was Genuinely insane to read through some of the forums when making this video. A shame that so much good faith was pissed down the drain
Not the content we needed, not the content we deserved, but by golly we are grateful for another egg footy doco. Absolutely impeccable video as always mate. An interesting and humorous take on what is actually a very interesting topic that I don’t think anyone else would cover so it’s refreshing to see. Love your work mate, keep it up.
Thanks bro appreciate it!
Good video lad, fuck BigAnt and Ross for what they’ve done to us and the game.
Haha thanks for including my video, great vid from u.
No problem 👍
Thanks for this, mate. Nice editing too
Glad you enjoyed it
Big Ant Studio has a history of releasing buggy sport games. Sure they have a shoestring budget compared to other studios but it's always been the same issues from them. Their tennis games are slightly better (easier sport to code) however the Cricket games they make are also rubbish. The sad truth is there will never been a multi million dollar budget for a AFL game because it's a one country market and that's Australia - a small gaming market indeed.
I have AFL 23 and still play AFL evo 2 because of how shit AFL 23 is🤣
AFL 23 was one of the most embarrassing failures in video game developing history. It's not just the fact that the game itself was a steaming pile of horse shit, but for Ross to act like a massive douche bag and asshole to anyone that dared question it was the icing on the cake. I bought it on release day and according to my steam profile I haven't played it since may 20, it's not even installed on my PC anymore. Disgraceful
The big problem was the rugby union and cricket games also promised in the same year should of just sticked to one
I got it on xbox in like November, I've been sort of enjoying it, obviously limited and still broken in some areas, looking forward to improvements, on fifa I only really manager mode, so I just want that to work well
Great video Egg. With how little amount of people playing do you really think they will bother trying to fix the game?
Idk mate no idea
Decent video mate... Legitimate critique
This has given me zero confidence in Rugby 24 being any good. The weak excuse of delaying the game because of the disks not being in stores. Sounds similar to the recent Rugby 24 delay because they couldn't get all the player faces/content. It's not a real excuse and we have yet to see Rugby 24 gameplay or screenshots. But Ross can tweet months ago saying he is loving playing Rugby 24 in the office.
I mainly play it for career mode but considering you can't train your players or develop young players, no injuries or suspensions, it's literally just play the game then change the team line up thats it there's no depth to it. Plus no gameplay slider settings, still.
I still play AFL Live 2011... Id rather spend my own time updating the lists (as ive already done for 2024) then play AFL 23 unless it has major improvements
Hey Eggfooty, im new to your channel and love it so far:)
Adam Simpson in Goals is the funniest glitch ive ever seen:)
Welcome mate glad you’re enjoying it!
I still play Afl live 2010 on PC and that game is by far the best game it's so fluid
If only big ant studios could copy that game style of play into afl 23
I still have crashes in AFL 23 now
Guys if I bought the game on PS4 can I refund it or not?
😂😂😂
Best Video Of The The Year (So Far)
This Game Was A Fraud In The End.
my afl 23 updated today and has crashed every game wtf
I remember after school going straight to EB games and getting it, I got the last disc and felt like the luckiest mf itw, got home and played it (or at least tried to) for 30 minutes, crashed about 7-8 times and I gave up and started watched live streams of other people crashing so I knew it wasn’t just a me problem, if only I had waited a day or they had been sold out I would be $100 richer and not have been put into a clinical depression from this god awful game
eggfoopy.
I’m pretty sure the R stick for bouncing the ball is glitched
You know the game is bad when a famous actor from The Hunger Games criticises it.
My goat Charlie
Bit late to the party but I am pretty sure I am the QA guy from Wicked Witch that he was talking about 😂
Nice lol
Hey Egg!!! I think your house in on fire 🔥...
As long as Big Ant make the game, it will suck balls sorry fans.
It's like Big ant tried to embarrass wicked witch but it backfired on them
Is there such a thing as a class action lawsuit for game companies? How much money have they received from people for this dogshit incomplete game? It’s too late to for me to get my money back. I held onto it with hopes and dreams, but it’s not looking so good.
If I wanted to get a footy game, should I get AFL 23 since it’s been patched up a bit, or should I go with EVO 2?
Get evo 2 on eBay, decent enough game for a fraction of the price
Nacon took over was great
i only bought the game because i was expecting a myteam sort of mode in it, it was the most impulse buy i’ve ever made, and i regret it deeply
The way Ross and big ant carried themselves over the past year they can get f@$$%%.
You can't shit on wicket witches efforts then release something worse.
Even if an update around march fixes quite a bit they need to do a lot more to redeem themselves
Biggest scam of a game I've ever purchased for near 100 Bucks
this game has never been on sale wtffffff. no passion non at all
Bought AFL23 like a week after launch and it wouldnt even start up, got it refunded immediately to buy Street Fighter 6. Clearly I dodged a bloody bullet 😂
Your view count is as broken as this game, Egg. Saw on Twitter the other day that u only get 300 views! 😉😂
Keep up the great work mate ✌️
Thanks, will do!
As always egg you’ve done good for the community!!! Wonderful video I believe in Joe danger 😘😘
Thank you!
No player career mode, no mini games,little content, 0 news on Pro Team, it’s just rubbish
I think the most frustrating part wasn't Ross's refusal to answer fairly innocuous questions like "what modes will be in the game?" (and all these months later with modes like Pro Team still not in the game, despite making up the bulk of the launch trailer, we still don't have an answer for a game that came out 8 months ago), it wasn't acting like a completely unprofessional prat when it came to Wicked Witch or being questioned in general, but it was the rabid cult that defended everything Ross did or didn't do despite the evidence of an absolute disaster staring them in the face. Was some of the most bizarre shit I've ever seen.
Pretty sure he was banned by the BigFooty mods and Big Ant set up their own forums where questions about the game continue to be ignored.
Their excuse for how the game released was really baffling. This whole idea of a "wrong build" getting released is comical. And the craziest part is, they weren't the only ones pushing that narrative as certain content creators were saying similar things, that this wasn't the build they played when the game was shown off behind closed doors. Clearly that was a lie and this mythical build doesn't exist but the fact that they thought this was an excuse they could get away with is really something. Ross honestly comes off as a weird dude and this is just one thing in a list of things that he's said or done that just makes him appear off.
I feel really bad for the actual development team though. I mean look at their release schedule. They had to put out AFL 23, Cricket 24, and they've just had to push out a new Tennis game plus a Rugby game that's coming sometime this year. That's an absolute fucking death march, I can't imagine the crunch they're under.
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Was on the Steam page at launch. That 100 dollar price tag made me recoil but i figured i'd give it a chance. If I remember right in addition to the dogshit gaemplay there were no stats in game, like you couldnt check the quarter by quarter score breakdowns or basic shit like disposals and goals. Played less than 2 hours so I could get a refund.
Thought maybe if the price drops or it improves through patches i'd grab it again but its still 100 fucking bucks.
For once, Stoody got it right, they are a disgrace
I‘ve never watched Aussie Football ans don‘t know any of the rules, but still really enjoyed this review
Thanks bro!
Thank the Lord that Big Ant went overbudget (supposedly) on AFL Live 1. It's the best AFL game of all time imo. AFL Live 2 as its sequel was nice but had worse team editor mechanics imo
Bring back afl 23 content the game is good now
Loving the shelf ❤️
Keep up the good work egg 🫡
Thank you! Will do!
This is actually a banger
Thanks bro
Nuh. There ALL SHIT! NES version from 1991 is still the best (not kidding)
I need that shirt Egg
Don't just heart me where'd you get the shirt bro!
great video mate! keep it up
Thanks a ton!
Such a huge disappointment of a game. Everyone including me thought it would be the greatest afl game ever and it turned into a disaster.
4:55 Big chungus lol
Tbh you shouldn't trust anything from Big Ant Studios
AFL 2004 live is the BEST
None of thier recent titles are worth there day one asking price....3-6 months worth of patches and fixes, trying to use the public as their beta testers to effect, and its still not worth its asking price...
The new updates a let down too
I’ve seen some clips of the new Torp mechanics haha hopefully they get their act together by the time pro team comes along
I made some shit purchases last year, but this puts all that other dumb shit to shame.
Still cannot believe I paid $100 bucks for this garbage.
Good vid egg and thanks for gifting me a membership on Cardys Christmas Eve stream :)
All good bro glad you enjoyed!
@@eggfooty I brought evo 2 last week on eBay cause I could on my Nintendo switch lol and I live in QLD too.
The fallout 76 of sport
I remember trying to defend AFL 23 by saying they uploaded the wrong version of the game and by leaving them with a positive review after opening day. That did not turn out so well 💀
I remember that haha
I play evo 2 on a switch and its better than 23 tbh
Agreed
Agreed
Deleted the junk game and reinstalled evo 2. Never been so disgusted in a game more than I was with afl23
Hardly ever had anyone ever agree with stoody.
Also wasn't there supposed to be a rookie mode where you played as your own player you made yourself
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