She's not wrong to have a mild concern when there's no other evidence, but damn lady, sometimes kids just have a favourite outfit and they can afford to wash it for them daily, or they get multiple of the same clothes to make sure their kid is comfortable, or it's the above situation! Same clothes is preferable to no clothes.
If a child came into my class in the same clothes every day for a week (and is otherwise totally fine), I'd take note of that in case something more substantial comes up later. It's not crazy to find that kinda weird or possibly suspicious, but it's also not an immediate indicator of neglect. If the kid is still coming in bathed, their hair brushed, and the clothes aren't stained with bodily waste it's probably fine. Like yes it's entirely possible that a child who wears the same clothes every day is being neglected, but it's not enough for a report.
Child protection services, while very necessary, are not well known for their tact. If there is not a reasonable cause for concern, then the potential trauma the child could suffer shouldn’t be risked.
Geez, this sounds like a soap opera I used to watch. If this is a reenactment, then that "karen" needs to MIND HER OWN BUSINESS. If she wants to report this to the authorities, beware! They can turn it around and look into your home & background. I work in pediatrics. If you are the complainer, they look into you too.
So this is what happened behind the scenes when i told my therapist about my abusive parents? 😂 Lol no wonder they got away with everything, if you just keep looking tidy you can get away with terrible things, because it looks like you have a lovely family, everyone just assumes the child is a liar looking for attention and everything is just fine! 😢
when my mother was abusing me, she either threw a mega fit or manipulated them into thinking nothing was wrong. She gaslit me for so many years and taught me it was a bad thing to speak up when something is wrong. So sad that there are people out there like these. I am sorry you had a raw deal of it abuse too.
@ravynbishop6131 it seems all too common to believe the parent, and then even worse to have them try to gaslight you into not trusting your gut instinct that their behaviour is so negative. I'm so sorry you dealt with this too, and hope you've found healing and peace these days 🩷🙏
@@DivineLightPaladin It is a sad thing indeed that i happens so much. Shouldn't happen at all. Thank you for your wishes. Unfortunately, i am struggling with it daily. Better than i used to be, its a long road to go down.
A therapist not believing you about abuse is not the same as a nursery worker not being worried that a child wears the same clean clothes everyday. Children wearing the same clothes constantly is such a well-known phenomenon, that multiple laundry advertisements feature it. Abusers do indeed try to disguise their actions-they’re disguising them as non-abusive. Therefore, people who are familiar with those tactics can see non-abusive actions as abusive because they see it as a disguise, not as genuine. But loving or neutral actions aren’t always a cover up. The nursery worker is right to not be concerned.
While I, to an extent, understand the mother's concern, I'm siding with the Daycare teacher on this. Let's review the points made by both sides so I can explain my stance. Mother: 1 - The kids has been wearing the same outfit everyday for the past week (observable fact that can lead to mild concern) 2 - The kid is being sent straight to bed in those close after being picked up from the daycare (assumption) 3 - Since the kid is being sent straight to bed, she not getting properly washed (assumption based on the previous assumption) Daycare Worker: 1 - She was in my classroom previously (personal experience leading to the following observable facts) 2 - The child's mother buys an outfit specifically for nursery (was possibly told this by the mother) 3 - The outfit gets washed every day, as seen by the fact that the kids would leave the nursery with the clothes covered in paint and the next morning there would be no paint on the clothes (observable fact supported by evidence) So, while the mother had a right to be mildly concerned seeing a child wearing the same clothes every day, she took that one observation and immediately assumed the worst without any other supporting evidence. And she told those made up assumptions to the worker in the form of, "that kid *is* being neglected," instead of saying, "Hey, I happened to notice that one of the other kids has been wearing the same clothes every day and I just wanted to make sure you were aware in case there could be other signs of possible neglect." Also, when I was a little kid, I wore the same outfit everyday just because I wanted to, not because I had to for any reason.
Unfortunately, that isn't enough to report someone. I work with teachers and they try, but apparently the evidence of poverty isn't enough information according to officials
Because poverty isn't a crime. Rather than reporting, an offer of support in a discreet, non-judgemental way is better. Having a relationship with the families is important, because it'll help guide you on how best to approach the situation. Whether that's changing the child at kindie into spares, or washing the clothes yourself, or any other of the infinite variety of ways you can support a struggling family. We don't just report every little thing. I knew a kid who for various reasons was sometimes a bit smelly, but they had excellent food, their parents loved them and took them to all their various appointments. The slightly dirty clothes was mostly due to autism making bathtime difficult.
When you report child abuse to the authorities, what you're really getting at is asking the question "is this situation worse than putting a child through the trauma of being taken away from the home/family and placed in a government funded group home/foster home/etc." Growing up with loving and attentive parents who don't have sufficient funding for new clothes is not better than being surrounded by stranger adults and children in an underfunded temporary housing situation for abused and neglected youths. If its that important to you, offer to lend a hand to those families in need... not hope their children get taken away and put in an arguably worse situation.
The mum who was going to report was absolutely right and you were wrong. Always better safe than sorry in these cases. It was great of her to even notice this.
While this isn't an official page (she does not have one), credit is given by the channel. (stolen would imply the channel is trying to pass off content as their own, which isn't happening)
She's not wrong to have a mild concern when there's no other evidence, but damn lady, sometimes kids just have a favourite outfit and they can afford to wash it for them daily, or they get multiple of the same clothes to make sure their kid is comfortable, or it's the above situation! Same clothes is preferable to no clothes.
I wore the same outfit every day before we got an official uniform, it just made things easier!
If a child came into my class in the same clothes every day for a week (and is otherwise totally fine), I'd take note of that in case something more substantial comes up later. It's not crazy to find that kinda weird or possibly suspicious, but it's also not an immediate indicator of neglect. If the kid is still coming in bathed, their hair brushed, and the clothes aren't stained with bodily waste it's probably fine. Like yes it's entirely possible that a child who wears the same clothes every day is being neglected, but it's not enough for a report.
Child protection services, while very necessary, are not well known for their tact. If there is not a reasonable cause for concern, then the potential trauma the child could suffer shouldn’t be risked.
Geez, this sounds like a soap opera I used to watch.
If this is a reenactment, then that "karen" needs to MIND HER OWN BUSINESS.
If she wants to report this to the authorities, beware! They can turn it around and look into your home & background.
I work in pediatrics. If you are the complainer, they look into you too.
So this is what happened behind the scenes when i told my therapist about my abusive parents? 😂
Lol no wonder they got away with everything, if you just keep looking tidy you can get away with terrible things, because it looks like you have a lovely family, everyone just assumes the child is a liar looking for attention and everything is just fine! 😢
when my mother was abusing me, she either threw a mega fit or manipulated them into thinking nothing was wrong. She gaslit me for so many years and taught me it was a bad thing to speak up when something is wrong.
So sad that there are people out there like these. I am sorry you had a raw deal of it abuse too.
@ravynbishop6131 it seems all too common to believe the parent, and then even worse to have them try to gaslight you into not trusting your gut instinct that their behaviour is so negative. I'm so sorry you dealt with this too, and hope you've found healing and peace these days 🩷🙏
@@DivineLightPaladin It is a sad thing indeed that i happens so much. Shouldn't happen at all.
Thank you for your wishes. Unfortunately, i am struggling with it daily. Better than i used to be, its a long road to go down.
@@ravynbishop6131i suffered 37 years of narcisstic abuse
A therapist not believing you about abuse is not the same as a nursery worker not being worried that a child wears the same clean clothes everyday. Children wearing the same clothes constantly is such a well-known phenomenon, that multiple laundry advertisements feature it.
Abusers do indeed try to disguise their actions-they’re disguising them as non-abusive. Therefore, people who are familiar with those tactics can see non-abusive actions as abusive because they see it as a disguise, not as genuine. But loving or neutral actions aren’t always a cover up. The nursery worker is right to not be concerned.
It's also possible the child is on the spectrum and prefers very similar clothes because of touch sensitivity.
While I, to an extent, understand the mother's concern, I'm siding with the Daycare teacher on this. Let's review the points made by both sides so I can explain my stance.
Mother:
1 - The kids has been wearing the same outfit everyday for the past week (observable fact that can lead to mild concern)
2 - The kid is being sent straight to bed in those close after being picked up from the daycare (assumption)
3 - Since the kid is being sent straight to bed, she not getting properly washed (assumption based on the previous assumption)
Daycare Worker:
1 - She was in my classroom previously (personal experience leading to the following observable facts)
2 - The child's mother buys an outfit specifically for nursery (was possibly told this by the mother)
3 - The outfit gets washed every day, as seen by the fact that the kids would leave the nursery with the clothes covered in paint and the next morning there would be no paint on the clothes (observable fact supported by evidence)
So, while the mother had a right to be mildly concerned seeing a child wearing the same clothes every day, she took that one observation and immediately assumed the worst without any other supporting evidence. And she told those made up assumptions to the worker in the form of, "that kid *is* being neglected," instead of saying, "Hey, I happened to notice that one of the other kids has been wearing the same clothes every day and I just wanted to make sure you were aware in case there could be other signs of possible neglect."
Also, when I was a little kid, I wore the same outfit everyday just because I wanted to, not because I had to for any reason.
Soo is these encounters you're experienced?
Unfortunately, that isn't enough to report someone. I work with teachers and they try, but apparently the evidence of poverty isn't enough information according to officials
Because poverty isn't a crime. Rather than reporting, an offer of support in a discreet, non-judgemental way is better.
Having a relationship with the families is important, because it'll help guide you on how best to approach the situation. Whether that's changing the child at kindie into spares, or washing the clothes yourself, or any other of the infinite variety of ways you can support a struggling family.
We don't just report every little thing. I knew a kid who for various reasons was sometimes a bit smelly, but they had excellent food, their parents loved them and took them to all their various appointments. The slightly dirty clothes was mostly due to autism making bathtime difficult.
When you report child abuse to the authorities, what you're really getting at is asking the question "is this situation worse than putting a child through the trauma of being taken away from the home/family and placed in a government funded group home/foster home/etc."
Growing up with loving and attentive parents who don't have sufficient funding for new clothes is not better than being surrounded by stranger adults and children in an underfunded temporary housing situation for abused and neglected youths.
If its that important to you, offer to lend a hand to those families in need... not hope their children get taken away and put in an arguably worse situation.
She isn't that wrong tbh xx
The mum who was going to report was absolutely right and you were wrong. Always better safe than sorry in these cases. It was great of her to even notice this.
I just need to know what is happening with the makeup???!
Same 😅
Stolen content
The is her account on TH-cam.. what.?
While this isn't an official page (she does not have one), credit is given by the channel. (stolen would imply the channel is trying to pass off content as their own, which isn't happening)