@@MightyMarceGGman almost every 365x macro is that way, mine included, what I did was keep the slide locked back, load mag, then drop the slide, it's gonna take awhile but it'll loosen up, I know it feels awful, like it's scraping and just tearing shit up, but it's not...it because of how tight the spring in the mag is, it's pretty crazy they didnt figure out a way to fix that befoee ourtinf them on the market
@@natedunkelberger8506 what does that have to do with anything? It's a typical 3.1" barrel...I really hope ur comment was some type of smart ass remark, because if not, u clearly have mental issues
Your mag is not broken in and the spring force is slamming the first round into the breech from underneath. Glock mags do the same thing, you have to stand on them to get the last round in. Shoot the gun in with about 250 rounds and see if it makes any difference - but again it’s likely the mag not the pistol
@@peternorth1721 You’re on crack, every single Glock I’ve ever owned was extremely hard to put the mag in, even after the break in period, my 365 was like this for maybe the first day then fine after that, always load up your new mags and let them sit, these micros are also built to tighter tolerances so shooting them at the range for a bit helps a ton, you should be doing that with your carry gun anyways🤷🏻♂️
It’s the mag. Even with the loader it’s a struggle to get that 17th round in until the spring loosens a bit. Mine was never hard to rack but the mag spring was stiff. Load as many as you can in the mag and let it sit full for a few days and that helps
It's actually a common problem and almost impossible to rack if racking it slowly like that. SIG actually says to not top the magazine off and to only hold 14rds in a 15rd magazine (or 16rds in a 17rd magazine). It's BS. The problem is the bump on the bottom of the mag where is strips the top round from the magazine to chamber it, that bump gets stuck on the front "curve" of the top bullet. Racking it very fast makes it act more like a ramp to push that top bullet down enough to make it possible to rack... but if you do it slow, it's impossible for most people to rack. (Have seen Dozens of people try, including people in the military and people who are professionals with firearms).
@@MightyMarceGG it’s clearly a magazine issue and not a gun issue. Leave rounds in that mag and try another one. And 250 rounds isn’t enough for a new gun. That’s not that many rounds. Hope you figure it out because the xmacro a great gun.
@@Goodluck-hd5gp I have not steered away from it 100%, will definitely give it another chance. I know it’s the mags but I’m the type of guy that expects something to do what it says it can right out of the box. Thanks for your advice!
Take your mag apart and soak your spring in warm water for 15mins and let it air dry or fry it with a microfiber carefully and then lube your spring back up dawg and it’s going to run like a gym. Homie from the marines taught me that 💯💯👍🏽
My brand new 17-round magazine was tight like that, too. It wouldn’t feed the first round in, but every other round would cycle. Likely needs to break in for the 17th round to cycle.
SIG cays to only hold 14rds in 15rd magazines and 16rds in 17rd magazines, because sometimes there just isn't enough room to push that to bullet down to get past the bump on the underside of the slide (that gets stuck on the top bullet as it travels rearward). Racking it really fast usually stops it from completely jamming.... but it really is a design flaw.
You calling me weak bruh? 🤣 you can hear the metal grinding! It really amazes me how some of these comments actually agree that this is how a new gun should operate. Y’all are buggin. Even after running 250 rounds through it, barely made a difference.
Mine came with a little tool to load the mag. Which I love. And if you’re having to reload your mags in a fire fight, you’re in a very weird spot and unlucky 😂
@@andresc5915 lol exactly. the average gunfight isn't going to be a long protracted engagement. Well i guess that depends on the who, what, where, and when of it.
I had the same issue I'm around 500 in now no problem anymore just break in they crammed that mag to fit 17 it doesn't like it at first lol. Love my macro I think it's the best gun that size/price out there right now
@@justashootin5164that when you get the tactical Tarzan +4 extender I carry my macro with the 17+1 then my back up mag is the 17+4 sometime I switch them out depends on what I’m wearing
@@justashootin5164why would you choose an aftermarket mag with extension instead of a factory 17 round mag? Greater capacity is great but from what I’ve seen those S15 mags aren’t the most reliable and adding an extension to is just asking for trouble.
I went through 200 rounds, at the range it would rack easier but after getting home it wouldn't. My guess is the heat helped at the range. Just not one I can risk protecting my life with. Sig just said it's how the gun is meant to perform, joke right?
Break in needed. Had the sam issue with my 320 xten and after a couple of range trips and leaving the mags loaded in between it racks just fine with a fully loaded mag.
Nice that everybody gives an opinion as to what needs to be done. Problem is, the people who say leave the mag loaded so the spring breaks in have it wrong. The spring will only start to lose some tension when it is continually compressed, then expanded, compressed and expanded, etc.
Also, that will Never fix this problem anyways. The bottom of the slide has a bump, where the bullet gets stripped from the slide to be chambered... and that bump gets stuck on the top bullet. SIG says to only load to 14rds in a 15rd magazine or 16rds in a 17rd magazine, so there's enough room for the top bullet to move down... but it can be done without doing that if you rack the slide Really Fast. In any case though, it's really a design flaw. They just didn't leave enough room to account for that bump needing to push the top round down. I would bet that the bump could be partially removed (or even mostly removed) to fix this and still work 100% reliably. When the slide goes all the way back then then forward again, you can see that the top bullet makes contact much higher on the breech face, so that bump might even be completely unnecessary.
This is the case with older mags but with modern mags it's not a problem, the real problem here is that gun just needs to be broken in. I have a xmacro, xl, and base model and many others they all had this problem brand new, 250-500 rnds will sort this out just fine.
I just left my mags full loaded to keep pressure on the springs for about a week or two and now I load all 17 by hand and have zero issues racking with a full mag. Too bad you pawned it. It’s a great shooter.
I hear that, but there are so many mixed reviews even in these comments that I feel like it’s really hit or miss. My problems were magazine related for sure. For an $800+ gun SIG should have a machine that flexes the spring so we don’t have to waste time, money and get frustrated with their products.
i just got mine 2 days ago and they said the spring is just stiff bc it’s brand new…mine wasn’t that hard to chamber like yours but did give me a lot of resistance. Hopefully it will lighten up after this weekend at the range.
Keep us posted! I gave it time but after a range day it was only about 5% easier. Fill the mag and have one in the chamber. Shoot one round and put another bullet in the mag with one still in chamber. Repeat that for a possible faster break in process.
If you need to reload a 17 round mag in the middle of a situation, you’re probably not worried about one more bullet, besides the fact that you probably don’t have any spare rounds lying around. Also, ‘it needs to be broken in’ is what I see a lot about this gun, which isn’t a bad thing. If you’re not practicing with your EDC routinely then you won’t be proficient with it. So practice more to become better with it, while also breaking in your gear. 2 birds with 1 stone as they say
Yeah load it that way. They are cramming a lot of rounds in a stack in a half. Slide locks back on last round so it wouldn't be a problem anyways. If it is just slam it in.
Appreciate ya bro! I tried cycling the mags and I just feel like the pressure from the bullet on the slide left it too tight to move. Even after a 200rd break in. Pawned it after that.
I noticed the rail that rides along the bullet on my macro is not milled as smooth as the rest of my 365’s, that might have something to do with it, my 365, x and xl the rail is smooth as glass, the macro has milling marks. Maybe it will slick up as I shoot it. I just got the macro.
I use a maglula to work in new mags. Fill it to full capacity and then use the maglula (or any brand speed loader) to compress the spring a few times. If you don’t have any tools. The magazine spring just needs to be compressed and decompressed a few times under either normal use, or by unloading and loading the mag.
@@nobody2021oh yeah what size grip you like ? I found the small size I get more over all wrap around the grip compared to as the large Im 6,5 200lbs if that says anything
When you reload in the middle of a situation like you said. The slide locks back ,unless you do a tactical reload which usually you will have one in the chamber anyways.
You have to understand the engineering behind that gun. That is a very compact gun for a 17 round mag, a lot of guns out there are bigger than that with a 15 round mag. Sig managed to put 17 rounds into a very compact gun. You have to understand that is going to be a super tight fit to squeeze that in, and this is a self defense concealed carry oriented gun. You are not gonna start loading the mag in a self defense scenario, you are gonna stage that gun at home. If the factory says that's how it is intended to be useed, that's how you need to work the gun to have that capacity that everybody wants to have in a compact, slim carry gun.
Your mag is not worn in enough and the last round is super tight. Whenever you jam rounds into a mag that tightly the slide is difficult to rack back over the round because the bullet casing is tightly jammed against the slide with no more room to flex downward. This has nothing to do with the macro, every gun does this when you have the mag loaded that tightly and then choose to insert the mag into a closed slide
@@hayden7929 full size Glocks also are only fitting 17 rounds, the same amount as a macro, into a way bigger gun. The options are simple to fix this: run 16 rounds until the mag is broken in at which time they fit 17 no problem; or can go to the range and actually break the gun in and all is well
I had this issue with mine until I put about 300 rounds through it. Not a problem at all now. The only mag issue I have is that one out of the two that came with it will not seat in the gun with the slide closed if the mag is fully loaded with 17 rounds. I'm hoping that it's just a matter of the spring being broken in because if I send it to Sig, they won't be able to send it back...10 round max capacity law just passed where I live. 😢 Thankfully it loads just fine with 16.
If you’re reloading, you’re pushing daisies, soldier. I’ve had other sig micros like the P365 it’s the same thing. It’s not technically a problem. I don’t see a situation you’d need to reload as the average personal defense gun fight lasts about 3 seconds. Load one in the chamber and you’ll be fine. The power of the kickback on discharge will lock a new round in the chamber with zero setbacks.
FACTS. I just got a macro probably bout a month or so ago and it was tight af too and to b honest I’ve put about 200 rounds through it and it’s still pretty tight. But it runs flawlessly so it’s just a break in process imo.
Sigg makes beautiful guns, and they also are very innovative but the thing about innovation is it doesn’t usually come with reliability and consistency. There is no other major manufacturer that sells guns that have more finicky issues. If you talk to 100 people who buy the same gun from zig you will find the range of experiences some good some bad and then all types of different issues and it’s just really offputting because you want to buy one because they were such a beautiful firearms but there’s just too much bull crap always going on with SIG quality control.
I really wish I hadn’t pawned it, should’ve given it the full break in period before giving a final judgement. I have one on order, and this time I’m going to put 500 rounds before I judge it. I got an XTEN and was able to rack with a full mag out the box with no problems. I know others have had issues with that. So it really is just a hit or miss I guess, and SIG should hold to a higher standard considering their reputation!
I noticed mag issues with mine too. To the extent of a full mag had trouble seating. However, I haven’t put a lot of range time on my mags quite yet so I was waiting to see.
This is very common. When you rack it with a full magazine, don't do it slow... but jerk it Really fast (but don't have to be very hard), since you're supposed to rack them fast anyways. The bump on the bottom of the slide that strips the top round off the magazine to load it gets stuck on the top bullet in the magazine... and with the bullets being so tight in the magazine, it's very hard to push that bullet down enough to get it out of the way, so the slide can move rearward. If you do it really fast though, it can make is slide right past the round.. Some people also polish this area of the slide and even add an extremely thin coat of CV-2 grease. SIG says to load from the magazine, but to then only have 16rds in it (or 14 for a 15rd magazine)... but I don't think that's necessary. You just gotta be sure it won't fail to cycle when you shoot it. Even though it's hard to rack, when you shoot it moves so fast that it don't jam most of the time. Hope this helps. I have seen this and studied it myself and found that racking it FAST really does work.
I truly believe I didn’t give the gun the time it deserves. Because it’s so tight fitting and that seems to be the direction some manufacturers are heading towards to allow more capacity. Maybe after shooting a few hundred rounds more it would’ve helped but after 250 rounds I still had difficulty racking after it cooled down. I really wanted to love my macro!
@@MightyMarceGG Live and learn. Can't blame you. I don't think any gun should have a break in period... and especially not at the cost 100's of rounds. For some reason I thought this was the P320... because that's the model that has this problem normally and that's the model that SIG said to not top the magazines off on, because it causes this problem. This might be the first time I've heard it happening with any of the P365 models. (I wonder if the spring was binding. Have had problems with ETS magazines... but at-least the clear plastic on ETS mags makes it easier to see why it's jamming).
I have four different 365’s, I’ve not had any problems with them, the magazine’s are super stiff and hard to load on all of mine, especially the macro, I have Mag guts in my XL mags, they hold two more rounds and are easier to load than the factory springs. I’ve never had to break in a Glock, been shooting them since the late eighties, never had a problem with one! The Sigs shoot dependably, but are a bitch to load!
@@tacratt6091 I'm not certain, but I would bet that magguts would fix the problem also. I know they're not cheap, but to have extra capacity and to fix the problem might be a worth while investment. I've seen many people have the problem with P320's especially, with both OEM and ProMag magazines. I think Glock was careful to leave extra room for the bullets to be able to be pushed down when the slide recoils and he also designed that ramp to be more gradual, so it don't want to hang up on the top bullet so bad. If you fill a Glock magazine to capacity, you can push on the front of the top bullet and it'll push down fairly easily. Not all magazines do that though and some are especially difficult (like P320 magazines). Whenever I get a new magazine, the first thing I do is disassemble them, clean and lubricate them and then check for any rough surfaces or burs, then polish or hone any surfaces that need it. I also straighten the springs out, because I get sick of them partially unwinding, which causes them to want to jam. Has made a huge difference in reliability. Always hated to have to go to the range and have a ton of problems from bad magazines, which made me have to re-test each magazine again... so I just started doing maintenance Before I ever use them. It's really helped a lot.
We've experienced mag issues with the P320 too. Had to fight with Sig for five years to finally get them replaced. Sig likes to put stuff to market and let the public test it.
It's the mag bro. All my new Sig mag did this and I had to load it all the way and leave it alone for a few weeks. The first time I took them to the range my thumbs were sore from trying to load the rounds in lol
Seriously, in situations I am not counting rounds. I am getting rounds down range. 2 put some real rounds through it and then clean and lubricate the mags. Then lets talk about it. Yes, i do run one.
Thanks! I did run 250 rounds through it, got home cleaned it and same problem. Sold it, 3 months later got another one and have none of these issues right out the box, never fired. Awesome gun, I posted a video on it along with the Xten others were having problems with.
That's actually the correct way to load most semi auto handguns...think about it, the slides lock back to let know the mags spent but more importantly for faster, most effective reloading
I get that, that’s while shooting. But I’ve never had a pistol fail to rack a round until this. And I have around 16 pistols. My point is, if the gun says 17+1, it shouldn’t be a struggle no matter what way you chamber it. I won’t be one of the ones to accept the fact that I have to flex a spring in a mag enough times for it to actually do what it says it can. I appreciate your feedback! 💯
@@MightyMarceGG I mean just because a mechanism can perform a certain way doesn't mean it should...a commonly known misconception is that you should chamber a round by dropping it in the barrel, but that is not how the mechanism was designed to function and can have catastrophic results, even though it frequently works. It would be good to retrain yourself to take the extra second of locking back the slide when chambering, just because it's correct, if nothing else. Just my two cents, thanx for the discussion.
Thank you! It might be a personal annoyance simply because I usually don’t walk around with one in the chamber unless there’s a safety, because I appendix carry with no holster. So this gun would be a deal breaker for me. Ain’t trying to shoot off my own ***k! And you are totally right about many people improperly chambering a round by dropping it in. But even the pro’s load a mag without the slide being locked back. Why couldn’t they have just said 16+1… 🤷🏻♂️ then we’d be happy to know it could eventually hold 1 more.
@@MightyMarceGG Gotcha can I ask why you carry without a holster and subsequently w/o one in the tube? I'm assuming for concealment but seems very counterproductive
A lot of people carry no holster. Some days I do some days I don’t, but I do practice racking as I “unholster” often. Just the thought of one in the chamber and misfiring scares the shit out of me lol.
Somebody else said it in the comment as well I was told to load the mag completely and let it sit a couple days to weaken that spring and it helped mine
If it works just fine with 16 rounds then just run that untill it’s broken in, my xl mags are impossible to get the last round in so I just run -1 untill they break in. No biggy since they have great capacity anyway
I’ve had mines for about a little over 2 years now despite clean or neglect shot thousands of rounds never gave this problem or jammed on me although when I oil my handguns I always oil up rails and specific gun parts to prevent rust or malfunctions been one of best carry and works the best amongst the standard street pistol choice, love sig
Watched a video yesterday where one guy’s macro was a rust bucket. I clean and oil my guns religiously and always right out the box. So I know that wasn’t the case here. Glad you’ve enjoyed yours! I hope to say the same for my next macro that’s on order.
It’s been awhile since my last comment but now mine is doing better after cycling through my mags now they’re doing just fine. I still have to apply pressure to fit the mag in but it doesn’t give me that harsh resistance anymore like yours did.
Use the provided mag loader from sig…slam a few rounds down in the mag break the follower and spring in and you won’t have the issue. Also if the manufacturer recommends loading the gun a certain way then that’s the way.
Cmon we can’t accept that ridiculousness! Not intended to rack a slide with a fully loaded mag? I’m definitely not going to let them make a fool out of me, it’s just not the way. What if ones in the chamber and you quick load a mag and fire and the slide gets stuck with fte and now your fully loaded mag isn’t letting you rack the slide. 🤷🏻♂️
@@MightyMarceGG once the mag and follower are broken in then do it how ever you want it works just fine… (either way) just know that it’s not defective when the manufacturer states clearly how to operate their gun. The video is saying how the gun is broken/ defective and it’s clearly not.
@@TheNickademas1 I was arguing the fact that no gun no matter the make should require that much force. I do realize that I just didn’t give it enough break in time. Nothing wrong with the gun just an annoyance. I appreciate you!
Had the same problem with my XL till I put about 200 rounds through it, but I still load the mags with a speed loader because they are still very stiff.
You Should have your slide open when loading a 17rd mag... And just drop the slide no issue, especially since you should be carrying with a round in the chamber.
Mine were the same with both the X and the Macro mags. Load and unload that 17th rd about 200 times then store it loaded for a month. Mine run like well used Glock mags now and I can cycle the slide without issue. Just storing them loaded helps but it’s the cycles of a spring that make more of a difference. The loading and unloading of that last round will absolutely fix up your issue.
You just need to break the mag springs in a bit. Just carry and shoot with 16 for a while until it gets better. You can try loading and unloading the mags a bunch, that’s what wears the springs in the most
It’s just a new sig mag. The spring is extra string for long term reliability but makes the first couple days ass, I’d just leave it with 18 stuffed in there overnight , and it should go down over a few days
18??? Bro I couldn’t fit 18 in there! Could barely get 17! I replaced that macro with a new one and have none of those problems. It’s a QC issue if you ask me.
It’s because it’s a new gun and the mag springs aren’t broken in neither is the slide. They say you need to put 1000 rounds into the gun in order for it to be broken in.
I was at a gun shop today, same thing happened when the dealer tried to rack the slide open with the magazine inserted! Yes, the magazine was empty, but he couldn't rack it back with the magazine in! He had to remove the magazine so he could rack the slide back! He had other 365 models, and all did the same thing with the 17-round mag. The 12 round mags we were able to rack the slide without any issues. The owner said he has had 4 other customers experience the same issue! thank you for posting this.
I think a lot of people has had that same issue, myself included. After forcing it a few times, you can actually still rack it given it is hard to do at first but doable. After cycling the magazine at home manually, the first few rounds of the magazine wth the issue with a totally full magazine it worked itself in, after a couple dozen times. Also only one of my clips had that issue, the other one was easy to rack the 17th round into the chamber. Would like to know if yours and others worked itself in or what did you guys end up doing to fix the issue.
Thanks for this input! So after manually loading and unloading both mags multiple times, then going to the range and blasting through 250 rounds just to see if it would make a difference. Interesting thing was at the range I could rack the slide with 17 in the mag after shooting, it was just as difficult to load as the first time though. I got home and loaded up a full mag thinking my macro was finally good and the same shit happened again. I was furious so I sold it and got a 19x lol. But I recently gave it another shot and the new one I can rack right out the box after loading 17. I have a video on it on my channel. Thanks again!
Your spring is just really tight. With the magazine removed, lock your slide back for 24-48 hours. Will loosen your spring up enough where you pull the slide back like you're supposed to.
I work with sig pistols a lot and it’s definitely the mag. I’ve found that after shooting with the same mags daily they’ll soften up after about a month or so. Just got the x macro grip for my XL and ill be breaking in the mags for a while so it’ll soften up.Give it a try
I was waiting for you to put the mag back in. If the issue persisted on a partial mag it’s the gun. But I don’t think it would continue. I’ve yet to even get all 17 in my macro mag lol.
S&W shield plus is the same. Slide doesn't seem as difficult to pull on a full mag but is still a chore and the last round in mags is hard as fuck. The problem with the mags is the springs stacks up on the guide legs of the backside of the follower. They're suppose to slide in a cutout between the front and back guide legs but get caught on the flat surface of the legs. You can file the flat spots into an angle and the spring will slide off and stack like it's supposed to. Might be the same thing happening with your Sig. There's a couple videos here on the Tube of people modding their Shield Plus mags if interested. Supposedly, you can clip the spring but haven't tried that.
Your purchase of that pistol should have come with 2 mags and a manual mag loader that helps it push the spring down. Helps so much with fresh mags since they are a pain in the ass to reload. I literally cut my finger once trying to push down the 17th bullet into the mag by hand😂
Just leave that mag full use 16 in the other for now. It's definitely the mag. Gotta keep pressure on that spring. I did that for like 3 months and emptied the mag and reloaded it and it was fine
The mag is meant to be loaded on an open slide. If someone needs to do a tactical reload, better off having the mag downloaded by one to take some spring pressure off the slide but also make the mag seat a little easier.
My P229 15 round mags are just like this. In fact, I found that if I completely load in 15 rounds and put the mag in the gun with the slide closed it requires a lot of force to get the mag to seat properly and engage the magazine release to retain the magazine. Then, even a little pressure on the magazine release can cause it to disengage and the mag can fall out. The solution I settled on is to o lay carry 14 rounds in the mag. Maybe not ideal but I’ll sacrifice 1 round of capacity to assure that the magazine remains seated in the gun in the event I need it in an emergency.
Its normal break in the gun and the mag break in takes about 500 rounds on guns, i work on a gun shop and i tell people to break in, plus i own a macro and after the 100 rounds its loose, and keep all my mags full so spring gets better
yea mine was a little stiff when i first shot it and only put 50 rounds through it. I just hit the range yesterday and put 200 rounds through it and it is functioning alot better. but that 17th rounds is hard to load and i don't think time will help but iff your in a pinch you should have 2-3 mag fully loaded already. you're not really reloading in a gun fight. Plus no civilian is getting into shootouts, were you need more than 50 rounds.
I would have got this Sig but I like my XL because longer barrel and Magguts makes a 17 round spring that's smooth as butter. Hasn't failed me yet. Knock on wood.
Magazine has just got to break in. I usually put 2 less In my mags to let them adjust. 17 rounds you can just leave 15 in there for about 2 weeks. Same with AR magazines just store with 28 instead of a full 30. Hope this helps!
Break it in bud, I've had the same issues with my Glock 26 and my Springfield EMP. As far as racking it, I don't understand how you can do it from front of slide but not from rear.
After using it for a few months now it should be run with a +1(like all carry guns). With an open slide you can load it just fine so after the first mag you'll be fine.
If you still think this is a mag issue, check the link: th-cam.com/video/uTpoPpJTQYg/w-d-xo.html
Anyone who says Bruh, I immodestly discount as ignorant. Just shoot the damn thing and wear it in a little. It’s not going to be loose as your Tarus.
@@PD-we8vf you consider someone ignorant because they said bruh? I did shoot the damn thing ain’t a damn thing change and never had a Taurus 😂
@@MightyMarceGGman almost every 365x macro is that way, mine included, what I did was keep the slide locked back, load mag, then drop the slide, it's gonna take awhile but it'll loosen up, I know it feels awful, like it's scraping and just tearing shit up, but it's not...it because of how tight the spring in the mag is, it's pretty crazy they didnt figure out a way to fix that befoee ourtinf them on the market
The barrels to short
@@natedunkelberger8506 what does that have to do with anything? It's a typical 3.1" barrel...I really hope ur comment was some type of smart ass remark, because if not, u clearly have mental issues
How to show the internet you don’t take your guns to the range
Exactly
Your mag is not broken in and the spring force is slamming the first round into the breech from underneath. Glock mags do the same thing, you have to stand on them to get the last round in. Shoot the gun in with about 250 rounds and see if it makes any difference - but again it’s likely the mag not the pistol
Glock mags dont do this. this is not a problem on virtually any normal sized double stack. This IS however an issue with MOST micro compact pistols
Glock mags don’t not do this.
@@peternorth1721 You’re on crack, every single Glock I’ve ever owned was extremely hard to put the mag in, even after the break in period, my 365 was like this for maybe the first day then fine after that, always load up your new mags and let them sit, these micros are also built to tighter tolerances so shooting them at the range for a bit helps a ton, you should be doing that with your carry gun anyways🤷🏻♂️
It’s the mag. Even with the loader it’s a struggle to get that 17th round in until the spring loosens a bit.
Mine was never hard to rack but the mag spring was stiff.
Load as many as you can in the mag and let it sit full for a few days and that helps
Dont bring Glock into this. 😂😂😂 this a Sig and Sig alone issue
If your loadin a mag in a "situation" you're already dead
😂 exactly
Or you just carry one in the chamber. Though I know not everyone is comfortable with doing that.
Yeah that was probably the stupidest take he had lmfao
Or you've dealt with the situation and are doing a tactical reload in case shit gets worse
@@JustinLaFleur1990 that’s why you carry two mags, not a box of ammo with a single mag tf 😂
Neh ain’t no problem bro just gotta put that work in and actually break in that sig and not let it be a safe princess 😂
Right! If you own a macro you know exactly what this dudes problem is! He hasn’t shot that thing at all
It's actually a common problem and almost impossible to rack if racking it slowly like that. SIG actually says to not top the magazine off and to only hold 14rds in a 15rd magazine (or 16rds in a 17rd magazine). It's BS. The problem is the bump on the bottom of the mag where is strips the top round from the magazine to chamber it, that bump gets stuck on the front "curve" of the top bullet. Racking it very fast makes it act more like a ramp to push that top bullet down enough to make it possible to rack... but if you do it slow, it's impossible for most people to rack. (Have seen Dozens of people try, including people in the military and people who are professionals with firearms).
@@Goodluck-hd5gp well I shot 250 rounds through it, got home loaded a full mag and same shit. Not sure what my problem is lol.
@@MightyMarceGG it’s clearly a magazine issue and not a gun issue. Leave rounds in that mag and try another one. And 250 rounds isn’t enough for a new gun. That’s not that many rounds. Hope you figure it out because the xmacro a great gun.
@@Goodluck-hd5gp I have not steered away from it 100%, will definitely give it another chance. I know it’s the mags but I’m the type of guy that expects something to do what it says it can right out of the box. Thanks for your advice!
Take your mag apart and soak your spring in warm water for 15mins and let it air dry or fry it with a microfiber carefully and then lube your spring back up dawg and it’s going to run like a gym. Homie from the marines taught me that 💯💯👍🏽
Bruh 🤦🏽♂️ obviously knew what I meant.
Fact.
What is the microfiber supposed to be?
@@justinshade2359stay in school kid
@@xman7688🤣
My brand new 17-round magazine was tight like that, too. It wouldn’t feed the first round in, but every other round would cycle. Likely needs to break in for the 17th round to cycle.
Man, you gotta run that thing and break it in, Mine was like that for a day or so, til I ran a few mags thru it
SIG cays to only hold 14rds in 15rd magazines and 16rds in 17rd magazines, because sometimes there just isn't enough room to push that to bullet down to get past the bump on the underside of the slide (that gets stuck on the top bullet as it travels rearward). Racking it really fast usually stops it from completely jamming.... but it really is a design flaw.
You got soft hands brother
You calling me weak bruh? 🤣 you can hear the metal grinding! It really amazes me how some of these comments actually agree that this is how a new gun should operate. Y’all are buggin. Even after running 250 rounds through it, barely made a difference.
@@MightyMarceGGjust load it with 17 rounds and keep it full for a couple of days. The spring is tight which is a good thing
Mine came with a little tool to load the mag. Which I love. And if you’re having to reload your mags in a fire fight, you’re in a very weird spot and unlucky 😂
I was about to say the same about the reloading…
@@andresc5915 lol exactly. the average gunfight isn't going to be a long protracted engagement. Well i guess that depends on the who, what, where, and when of it.
Well said. Never know when you need to defend against a herd of sloths, though 🙈
Don’t put 17rnds in the mag from the jump…. Solved.
It has to break in, slide release is probably hard af to push in too. They just need to be used and will work
Literally all it is
I had the same issue I'm around 500 in now no problem anymore just break in they crammed that mag to fit 17 it doesn't like it at first lol. Love my macro I think it's the best gun that size/price out there right now
I agree, can’t beat 17+1, slim, cheap, mos
Yes you can Glock 43x s15+5 for a total of 21 rounds 😮
@@justashootin5164that when you get the tactical Tarzan +4 extender I carry my macro with the 17+1 then my back up mag is the 17+4 sometime I switch them out depends on what I’m wearing
@@justashootin5164why would you choose an aftermarket mag with extension instead of a factory 17 round mag? Greater capacity is great but from what I’ve seen those S15 mags aren’t the most reliable and adding an extension to is just asking for trouble.
Observed that same issue when I loaded my first couple of mags, but worked its way to racking easier as I broke in the mags and pistol.
I went through 200 rounds, at the range it would rack easier but after getting home it wouldn't. My guess is the heat helped at the range. Just not one I can risk protecting my life with. Sig just said it's how the gun is meant to perform, joke right?
@@MightyMarceGGno not really, just break the mag in. It may take more than 200 rounds to break in.
Break in needed. Had the sam issue with my 320 xten and after a couple of range trips and leaving the mags loaded in between it racks just fine with a fully loaded mag.
Just load them 1 round short for the first couple trips until the spring loosens up a bit.
I just got an Xten and I can fully load the mag with little force and rack it without a problem. Never fired. QC needs to tighten up imo
Had the same issues with my xten and my new 17 rd mag for my X. Just run about 200 rds through it. Much better.
My p365x 12 round mag was super tight, but I stored them loaded and that helped. I hope you find a solution.
Nice that everybody gives an opinion as to what needs to be done. Problem is, the people who say leave the mag loaded so the spring breaks in have it wrong. The spring will only start to lose some tension when it is continually compressed, then expanded, compressed and expanded, etc.
I’m surprised more people don’t mention this.
Also, that will Never fix this problem anyways. The bottom of the slide has a bump, where the bullet gets stripped from the slide to be chambered... and that bump gets stuck on the top bullet. SIG says to only load to 14rds in a 15rd magazine or 16rds in a 17rd magazine, so there's enough room for the top bullet to move down... but it can be done without doing that if you rack the slide Really Fast. In any case though, it's really a design flaw. They just didn't leave enough room to account for that bump needing to push the top round down.
I would bet that the bump could be partially removed (or even mostly removed) to fix this and still work 100% reliably. When the slide goes all the way back then then forward again, you can see that the top bullet makes contact much higher on the breech face, so that bump might even be completely unnecessary.
This is the case with older mags but with modern mags it's not a problem, the real problem here is that gun just needs to be broken in.
I have a xmacro, xl, and base model and many others they all had this problem brand new, 250-500 rnds will sort this out just fine.
Mine was the same when new just take the speed loader and work the spring a while with 16 rounds in and it'll work fine
Keep breaking it in.. it's a pain but mine is running fine after a few dozen load unloades...
I just left my mags full loaded to keep pressure on the springs for about a week or two and now I load all 17 by hand and have zero issues racking with a full mag. Too bad you pawned it. It’s a great shooter.
I hear that, but there are so many mixed reviews even in these comments that I feel like it’s really hit or miss. My problems were magazine related for sure. For an $800+ gun SIG should have a machine that flexes the spring so we don’t have to waste time, money and get frustrated with their products.
@@MightyMarceGG I definitely agree. The next gun I am personally looking at is the Canik Mete SFX Pro, you dealt with one of these?
@@MightyMarceGG a machine to break in your firearm? You mean like your trigger finger? You’re gonna need to learn to shoot the thing too..
i just got mine 2 days ago and they said the spring is just stiff bc it’s brand new…mine wasn’t that hard to chamber like yours but did give me a lot of resistance. Hopefully it will lighten up after this weekend at the range.
Keep us posted! I gave it time but after a range day it was only about 5% easier. Fill the mag and have one in the chamber. Shoot one round and put another bullet in the mag with one still in chamber. Repeat that for a possible faster break in process.
I got mine yesterday. I’m itching to go to the range
If you need to reload a 17 round mag in the middle of a situation, you’re probably not worried about one more bullet, besides the fact that you probably don’t have any spare rounds lying around. Also, ‘it needs to be broken in’ is what I see a lot about this gun, which isn’t a bad thing. If you’re not practicing with your EDC routinely then you won’t be proficient with it. So practice more to become better with it, while also breaking in your gear. 2 birds with 1 stone as they say
Yeah load it that way. They are cramming a lot of rounds in a stack in a half. Slide locks back on last round so it wouldn't be a problem anyways. If it is just slam it in.
I just got mine today. Was the exact same way. 100 rounds later and it loosened up very nicely
"It supposed be like that" ok but I feel like I don't need to be the hulk to do tap and rack drills lol
Needs break-in.
Lock the slide to the rear for a week or 2. And cycle the mags by shooting or by hand. The springs will loosen a bit over time.
Appreciate ya bro! I tried cycling the mags and I just feel like the pressure from the bullet on the slide left it too tight to move. Even after a 200rd break in. Pawned it after that.
I noticed the rail that rides along the bullet on my macro is not milled as smooth as the rest of my 365’s, that might have something to do with it, my 365, x and xl the rail is smooth as glass, the macro has milling marks. Maybe it will slick up as I shoot it. I just got the macro.
Gotta break her in my friend! Mine did the same thing, took about 3 mags
Same i got a P365 and it was a stout fucker but after honestly the first mag but especially the second mag it was much easier to rack and press check
@@ajtoofly7315 shit I went through 250 rounds and was able to do everything at the range. But when I got home it went right back to this 😂
Sig doing sig things
I use a maglula to work in new mags. Fill it to full capacity and then use the maglula (or any brand speed loader) to compress the spring a few times.
If you don’t have any tools. The magazine spring just needs to be compressed and decompressed a few times under either normal use, or by unloading and loading the mag.
Had that problem and just ran with 15 rounds for a while.
Try the shield plus 9m.m. with the 15 rd mag! It's my new edc and I freak8ng love it. Great videos!
I moved from the shield Plus to the P365X. The sig feels way better in my hand.
@@nobody2021oh yeah what size grip you like ? I found the small size I get more over all wrap around the grip compared to as the large Im 6,5 200lbs if that says anything
@@ELITE_INCA_KENNELS I like the x grip. I might get an x macro someday. I held and dry fired one at a store today and it felt nice.
When you reload in the middle of a situation like you said. The slide locks back ,unless you do a tactical reload which usually you will have one in the chamber anyways.
You have to understand the engineering behind that gun. That is a very compact gun for a 17 round mag, a lot of guns out there are bigger than that with a 15 round mag. Sig managed to put 17 rounds into a very compact gun. You have to understand that is going to be a super tight fit to squeeze that in, and this is a self defense concealed carry oriented gun. You are not gonna start loading the mag in a self defense scenario, you are gonna stage that gun at home. If the factory says that's how it is intended to be useed, that's how you need to work the gun to have that capacity that everybody wants to have in a compact, slim carry gun.
Your mag is not worn in enough and the last round is super tight. Whenever you jam rounds into a mag that tightly the slide is difficult to rack back over the round because the bullet casing is tightly jammed against the slide with no more room to flex downward. This has nothing to do with the macro, every gun does this when you have the mag loaded that tightly and then choose to insert the mag into a closed slide
Never had this happen with stock glock mags in a full sized glock. The 33 rounders on the other hand..
@@hayden7929 full size Glocks also are only fitting 17 rounds, the same amount as a macro, into a way bigger gun. The options are simple to fix this: run 16 rounds until the mag is broken in at which time they fit 17 no problem; or can go to the range and actually break the gun in and all is well
I suggest you get the M&P Easy Shield to address your concern!
Not even close to a comparison.
I had this issue with mine until I put about 300 rounds through it. Not a problem at all now. The only mag issue I have is that one out of the two that came with it will not seat in the gun with the slide closed if the mag is fully loaded with 17 rounds. I'm hoping that it's just a matter of the spring being broken in because if I send it to Sig, they won't be able to send it back...10 round max capacity law just passed where I live. 😢 Thankfully it loads just fine with 16.
Sig doin sig things
If you’re reloading, you’re pushing daisies, soldier.
I’ve had other sig micros like the P365 it’s the same thing. It’s not technically a problem. I don’t see a situation you’d need to reload as the average personal defense gun fight lasts about 3 seconds. Load one in the chamber and you’ll be fine. The power of the kickback on discharge will lock a new round in the chamber with zero setbacks.
Handle it like a firearm not a newborn baby. That usually helps.
Exactly, just add a little man to it you will be fine. Mine is tight but function as supposed too
FACTS. I just got a macro probably bout a month or so ago and it was tight af too and to b honest I’ve put about 200 rounds through it and it’s still pretty tight. But it runs flawlessly so it’s just a break in process imo.
Exactly
You just need to leave the mag loaded for like a week. Breaks in the spring and makes it easier to rack when full
Live rounds to show your point!
GENIUS!!
Sigg makes beautiful guns, and they also are very innovative but the thing about innovation is it doesn’t usually come with reliability and consistency. There is no other major manufacturer that sells guns that have more finicky issues. If you talk to 100 people who buy the same gun from zig you will find the range of experiences some good some bad and then all types of different issues and it’s just really offputting because you want to buy one because they were such a beautiful firearms but there’s just too much bull crap always going on with SIG quality control.
I really wish I hadn’t pawned it, should’ve given it the full break in period before giving a final judgement. I have one on order, and this time I’m going to put 500 rounds before I judge it. I got an XTEN and was able to rack with a full mag out the box with no problems. I know others have had issues with that. So it really is just a hit or miss I guess, and SIG should hold to a higher standard considering their reputation!
My p226 is the most reliable pistol I’ve ever fired. Smooth as butter.
@@JonnyTravieso I hear they have a lot of drop-fire issues.
@@MightyMarceGGthat’s the p320 bro
Proven reliability for the last 3 decades i guess...I would love to own one if this..
I noticed mag issues with mine too. To the extent of a full mag had trouble seating. However, I haven’t put a lot of range time on my mags quite yet so I was waiting to see.
This is very common. When you rack it with a full magazine, don't do it slow... but jerk it Really fast (but don't have to be very hard), since you're supposed to rack them fast anyways.
The bump on the bottom of the slide that strips the top round off the magazine to load it gets stuck on the top bullet in the magazine... and with the bullets being so tight in the magazine, it's very hard to push that bullet down enough to get it out of the way, so the slide can move rearward. If you do it really fast though, it can make is slide right past the round.. Some people also polish this area of the slide and even add an extremely thin coat of CV-2 grease.
SIG says to load from the magazine, but to then only have 16rds in it (or 14 for a 15rd magazine)... but I don't think that's necessary. You just gotta be sure it won't fail to cycle when you shoot it. Even though it's hard to rack, when you shoot it moves so fast that it don't jam most of the time. Hope this helps. I have seen this and studied it myself and found that racking it FAST really does work.
I truly believe I didn’t give the gun the time it deserves. Because it’s so tight fitting and that seems to be the direction some manufacturers are heading towards to allow more capacity. Maybe after shooting a few hundred rounds more it would’ve helped but after 250 rounds I still had difficulty racking after it cooled down. I really wanted to love my macro!
@@MightyMarceGG Live and learn. Can't blame you. I don't think any gun should have a break in period... and especially not at the cost 100's of rounds.
For some reason I thought this was the P320... because that's the model that has this problem normally and that's the model that SIG said to not top the magazines off on, because it causes this problem. This might be the first time I've heard it happening with any of the P365 models. (I wonder if the spring was binding. Have had problems with ETS magazines... but at-least the clear plastic on ETS mags makes it easier to see why it's jamming).
I have four different 365’s, I’ve not had any problems with them, the magazine’s are super stiff and hard to load on all of mine, especially the macro, I have Mag guts in my XL mags, they hold two more rounds and are easier to load than the factory springs. I’ve never had to break in a Glock, been shooting them since the late eighties, never had a problem with one! The Sigs shoot dependably, but are a bitch to load!
@@tacratt6091 I'm not certain, but I would bet that magguts would fix the problem also. I know they're not cheap, but to have extra capacity and to fix the problem might be a worth while investment. I've seen many people have the problem with P320's especially, with both OEM and ProMag magazines.
I think Glock was careful to leave extra room for the bullets to be able to be pushed down when the slide recoils and he also designed that ramp to be more gradual, so it don't want to hang up on the top bullet so bad. If you fill a Glock magazine to capacity, you can push on the front of the top bullet and it'll push down fairly easily. Not all magazines do that though and some are especially difficult (like P320 magazines).
Whenever I get a new magazine, the first thing I do is disassemble them, clean and lubricate them and then check for any rough surfaces or burs, then polish or hone any surfaces that need it. I also straighten the springs out, because I get sick of them partially unwinding, which causes them to want to jam. Has made a huge difference in reliability. Always hated to have to go to the range and have a ton of problems from bad magazines, which made me have to re-test each magazine again... so I just started doing maintenance Before I ever use them. It's really helped a lot.
@@tacratt6091 ...and damn, I wish I had one let alone 4. That's awesome.
500 round break in will completely cure the cancer brotherman.. no more extra stiff mags, and no more trouble chambering with a fully loaded mag.
We've experienced mag issues with the P320 too. Had to fight with Sig for five years to finally get them replaced. Sig likes to put stuff to market and let the public test it.
Same with mine but after about 500 rounds no issue, it’s perfect. Love the trigger reset as well.
It's the mag bro. All my new Sig mag did this and I had to load it all the way and leave it alone for a few weeks. The first time I took them to the range my thumbs were sore from trying to load the rounds in lol
Seriously, in situations I am not counting rounds. I am getting rounds down range. 2 put some real rounds through it and then clean and lubricate the mags. Then lets talk about it. Yes, i do run one.
Thanks! I did run 250 rounds through it, got home cleaned it and same problem. Sold it, 3 months later got another one and have none of these issues right out the box, never fired. Awesome gun, I posted a video on it along with the Xten others were having problems with.
That's actually the correct way to load most semi auto handguns...think about it, the slides lock back to let know the mags spent but more importantly for faster, most effective reloading
I get that, that’s while shooting. But I’ve never had a pistol fail to rack a round until this. And I have around 16 pistols. My point is, if the gun says 17+1, it shouldn’t be a struggle no matter what way you chamber it. I won’t be one of the ones to accept the fact that I have to flex a spring in a mag enough times for it to actually do what it says it can. I appreciate your feedback! 💯
@@MightyMarceGG I mean just because a mechanism can perform a certain way doesn't mean it should...a commonly known misconception is that you should chamber a round by dropping it in the barrel, but that is not how the mechanism was designed to function and can have catastrophic results, even though it frequently works. It would be good to retrain yourself to take the extra second of locking back the slide when chambering, just because it's correct, if nothing else. Just my two cents, thanx for the discussion.
Thank you! It might be a personal annoyance simply because I usually don’t walk around with one in the chamber unless there’s a safety, because I appendix carry with no holster. So this gun would be a deal breaker for me. Ain’t trying to shoot off my own ***k! And you are totally right about many people improperly chambering a round by dropping it in. But even the pro’s load a mag without the slide being locked back. Why couldn’t they have just said 16+1… 🤷🏻♂️ then we’d be happy to know it could eventually hold 1 more.
@@MightyMarceGG Gotcha can I ask why you carry without a holster and subsequently w/o one in the tube? I'm assuming for concealment but seems very counterproductive
A lot of people carry no holster. Some days I do some days I don’t, but I do practice racking as I “unholster” often. Just the thought of one in the chamber and misfiring scares the shit out of me lol.
It's new and not broke in plan and simple. Mine did it new but after 500 rds not anymore. Smooth as can be
Somebody else said it in the comment as well I was told to load the mag completely and let it sit a couple days to weaken that spring and it helped mine
If it works just fine with 16 rounds then just run that untill it’s broken in, my xl mags are impossible to get the last round in so I just run -1 untill they break in. No biggy since they have great capacity anyway
I’ve had mines for about a little over 2 years now despite clean or neglect shot thousands of rounds never gave this problem or jammed on me although when I oil my handguns I always oil up rails and specific gun parts to prevent rust or malfunctions been one of best carry and works the best amongst the standard street pistol choice, love sig
Watched a video yesterday where one guy’s macro was a rust bucket. I clean and oil my guns religiously and always right out the box. So I know that wasn’t the case here. Glad you’ve enjoyed yours! I hope to say the same for my next macro that’s on order.
"You need to reload in the middle of a situation," 😂
That's not how that works!
It’s been awhile since my last comment but now mine is doing better after cycling through my mags now they’re doing just fine. I still have to apply pressure to fit the mag in but it doesn’t give me that harsh resistance anymore like yours did.
Use the provided mag loader from sig…slam a few rounds down in the mag break the follower and spring in and you won’t have the issue. Also if the manufacturer recommends loading the gun a certain way then that’s the way.
Cmon we can’t accept that ridiculousness! Not intended to rack a slide with a fully loaded mag? I’m definitely not going to let them make a fool out of me, it’s just not the way. What if ones in the chamber and you quick load a mag and fire and the slide gets stuck with fte and now your fully loaded mag isn’t letting you rack the slide. 🤷🏻♂️
@@MightyMarceGG once the mag and follower are broken in then do it how ever you want it works just fine… (either way) just know that it’s not defective when the manufacturer states clearly how to operate their gun. The video is saying how the gun is broken/ defective and it’s clearly not.
@@TheNickademas1 I was arguing the fact that no gun no matter the make should require that much force. I do realize that I just didn’t give it enough break in time. Nothing wrong with the gun just an annoyance. I appreciate you!
Had the same problem with my XL till I put about 200 rounds through it, but I still load the mags with a speed loader because they are still very stiff.
You Should have your slide open when loading a 17rd mag...
And just drop the slide no issue, especially since you should be carrying with a round in the chamber.
Mine were the same with both the X and the Macro mags. Load and unload that 17th rd about 200 times then store it loaded for a month. Mine run like well used Glock mags now and I can cycle the slide without issue.
Just storing them loaded helps but it’s the cycles of a spring that make more of a difference. The loading and unloading of that last round will absolutely fix up your issue.
You just need to break the mag springs in a bit. Just carry and shoot with 16 for a while until it gets better. You can try loading and unloading the mags a bunch, that’s what wears the springs in the most
After owning multiple different brands and giving sig a shot this was probably the worst to start with. Tried the mag reloading and shot a bunch.
You don’t have to do that shit with a Glock or a Glock magazine
My sig p320 x compact was the same after 50 rounds its as smooth as butter give it a chance and put some more elbow grease into it.
It’s just a new sig mag. The spring is extra string for long term reliability but makes the first couple days ass, I’d just leave it with 18 stuffed in there overnight , and it should go down over a few days
18??? Bro I couldn’t fit 18 in there! Could barely get 17! I replaced that macro with a new one and have none of those problems. It’s a QC issue if you ask me.
It’s because it’s a new gun and the mag springs aren’t broken in neither is the slide. They say you need to put 1000 rounds into the gun in order for it to be broken in.
I was at a gun shop today, same thing happened when the dealer tried to rack the slide open with the magazine inserted! Yes, the magazine was empty, but he couldn't rack it back with the magazine in! He had to remove the magazine so he could rack the slide back! He had other 365 models, and all did the same thing with the 17-round mag. The 12 round mags we were able to rack the slide without any issues. The owner said he has had 4 other customers experience the same issue! thank you for posting this.
I think a lot of people has had that same issue, myself included. After forcing it a few times, you can actually still rack it given it is hard to do at first but doable. After cycling the magazine at home manually, the first few rounds of the magazine wth the issue with a totally full magazine it worked itself in, after a couple dozen times. Also only one of my clips had that issue, the other one was easy to rack the 17th round into the chamber.
Would like to know if yours and others worked itself in or what did you guys end up doing to fix the issue.
Thanks for this input! So after manually loading and unloading both mags multiple times, then going to the range and blasting through 250 rounds just to see if it would make a difference. Interesting thing was at the range I could rack the slide with 17 in the mag after shooting, it was just as difficult to load as the first time though. I got home and loaded up a full mag thinking my macro was finally good and the same shit happened again. I was furious so I sold it and got a 19x lol. But I recently gave it another shot and the new one I can rack right out the box after loading 17. I have a video on it on my channel. Thanks again!
Bro using the strength of a premature baby 😂😂
Yeah mine did that until I passed about 100 rds through it now it’s as smooth as butter. Replacement mags are tight too just have to use them a bit
No issues like that with mine. Loaded fine..the 17th was a bit tough...no issues with racking it at all.
I think this resolves after a break in period....
Your spring is just really tight. With the magazine removed, lock your slide back for 24-48 hours. Will loosen your spring up enough where you pull the slide back like you're supposed to.
It wasn't the slide spring, pretty sure it was the tension from the fully loaded mag smashing against the slide.
I work with sig pistols a lot and it’s definitely the mag. I’ve found that after shooting with the same mags daily they’ll soften up after about a month or so. Just got the x macro grip for my XL and ill be breaking in the mags for a while so it’ll soften up.Give it a try
Springs don’t wear under tension. They wear under repeated use… and no it’s a mag issue.
I was waiting for you to put the mag back in. If the issue persisted on a partial mag it’s the gun. But I don’t think it would continue. I’ve yet to even get all 17 in my macro mag lol.
How long have you had it. I’m a big guy and I can’t seem to get 17 in there
because you have to break it in the spring is super tight on those so once you put a few rounds down range it will be like butter
The sig mag is STUPID tense when you first buy it, it took me about 800 rounds to get my mag where i could even load it all the way
Guess we'll wait till magguts comes out with their spring for it
I had same issue. After feeding it 500 rounds it runs like a dream now. The last round was a MF for a little while. It does break in eventually
S&W shield plus is the same. Slide doesn't seem as difficult to pull on a full mag but is still a chore and the last round in mags is hard as fuck. The problem with the mags is the springs stacks up on the guide legs of the backside of the follower. They're suppose to slide in a cutout between the front and back guide legs but get caught on the flat surface of the legs. You can file the flat spots into an angle and the spring will slide off and stack like it's supposed to. Might be the same thing happening with your Sig. There's a couple videos here on the Tube of people modding their Shield Plus mags if interested. Supposedly, you can clip the spring but haven't tried that.
Your purchase of that pistol should have come with 2 mags and a manual mag loader that helps it push the spring down. Helps so much with fresh mags since they are a pain in the ass to reload. I literally cut my finger once trying to push down the 17th bullet into the mag by hand😂
I mean it is brand spanking new. A couple pf my guns were stiff out the box but slick as butter now.
Micros do this because the top round grinds on that slide a little. Shield plus does the same thing. They’re just made to be small and tight.
Mags are meant to put in with the slide back. That’s why. You can also break the ejector slamming mags in hard enough
no you cant
@@Akwizard47 🤣 I feel you. I heard that shit somewhere. Just don’t break ya shit brotherrrr
Have to break it in!
Just leave that mag full use 16 in the other for now. It's definitely the mag. Gotta keep pressure on that spring. I did that for like 3 months and emptied the mag and reloaded it and it was fine
The mag is meant to be loaded on an open slide. If someone needs to do a tactical reload, better off having the mag downloaded by one to take some spring pressure off the slide but also make the mag seat a little easier.
Also tho it could be JUST the mag. Try loading only 15 rounds and see if it still does that
I had the same issue with my S&W shield +. Both my shield and 365 just needed to be broken in. They are fine now.
Great thing about sig too, is that you don’t even need a finger to make sure it shoots !!
That’s just how SIGs are, I’ve owned many of them it goes away after you run the mags through a few range sessions.
My P229 15 round mags are just like this. In fact, I found that if I completely load in 15 rounds and put the mag in the gun with the slide closed it requires a lot of force to get the mag to seat properly and engage the magazine release to retain the magazine. Then, even a little pressure on the magazine release can cause it to disengage and the mag can fall out. The solution I settled on is to o lay carry 14 rounds in the mag. Maybe not ideal but I’ll sacrifice 1 round of capacity to assure that the magazine remains seated in the gun in the event I need it in an emergency.
Its normal break in the gun and the mag break in takes about 500 rounds on guns, i work on a gun shop and i tell people to break in, plus i own a macro and after the 100 rounds its loose, and keep all my mags full so spring gets better
yea mine was a little stiff when i first shot it and only put 50 rounds through it. I just hit the range yesterday and put 200 rounds through it and it is functioning alot better. but that 17th rounds is hard to load and i don't think time will help but iff your in a pinch you should have 2-3 mag fully loaded already. you're not really reloading in a gun fight. Plus no civilian is getting into shootouts, were you need more than 50 rounds.
Most mags have a really firm spring. Run some rounds through it with 15 in it and you won't have and loading or failure issue.
I would have got this Sig but I like my XL because longer barrel and Magguts makes a 17 round spring that's smooth as butter. Hasn't failed me yet. Knock on wood.
Magazine has just got to break in. I usually put 2 less In my mags to let them adjust. 17 rounds you can just leave 15 in there for about 2 weeks. Same with AR magazines just store with 28 instead of a full 30. Hope this helps!
Use the speed loader that comes with the gun til its broke in if you're having difficulty.
Mag overloaded, some times they can’t fit last round. Just don’t do the last one and you should be fine. You can get mag extension base plates also
Good ol sig
Break it in bud, I've had the same issues with my Glock 26 and my Springfield EMP. As far as racking it, I don't understand how you can do it from front of slide but not from rear.
Break is needed for sure!
After using it for a few months now it should be run with a +1(like all carry guns). With an open slide you can load it just fine so after the first mag you'll be fine.