Love my P365XL. I swapped the grip for a Wilson Combat grip with tungsten weights. Huge difference! Also added a Holosun 407k green dot. This is my favorite in my collection
The Wilson grip was well worth the $60. I took my 407k off and went back to just using the night sights. Not seeing the dot in daylight, or having it so bright indoors or at night time, that you're blinded by your own optic was not fun. Irons aren't as sexy, but at least they're consistent.
I don't know who needs to hear this, but this might help someone in reference to maintenance. I've had my XL for about a month. I have the model with the paddle safeties. I took it apart and cleaned it, scrubbing in down and then running it through the ultrasonic cleaner. When I lubed and reassembled it, during the safety check, the safety lever got stuck in the on position. What this means is that if that happens, you can't disassemble the gun. I fiddled with it enough I was finally able to get it off safe. Inspection revealed that the safety lever bar was completely dry...I hadn't gotten any oil to it, which caused it to lock up. After oiling that bar (and the holes in the frame it passes through), and working the safety a few times, it started working as it should again. Not super important, just an FYI. Might help someone else.
Not super helpful since I already bought one, but reaffirms my decision to forego the safety. I tried one with a safety in the store, and it just felt too anemic. Like, if I carried with the safety on, and I needed to shit my shorts and draw on somebody quick, I may have an issue getting the safety off. Good to know I also avoided a potential lubrication malfunction, and very important for anybody still looking. Thanks for sharing.
I have personally owned and carried this gun, and shot it of course. I loved how smooth it felt, the grip was perfect for my medium sized hands, and the ammo capacity was right on target for what I wanted in a ccw. The night sights are fantastic, I really had no complaints for the first few hundred rounds. Awesome gun, I feel it's worth the price tag
@@tspandya I don’t know if you have a Sportsman’s in your neck of the woods, or if they have the same sale going on, but mine has the 365XL with one 12 round and two 15 round mags + a holster for 519 right now
I just bought this gun about a week ago and I love it. I have researched Sig for years before finally deciding to buy this and I'm happy I did. Right out the box I knew It was the one for me.
So my first thought when purchasing and shooting the XL is that the grip was tiny for my hands. I have L/XL glove hands and the only thing that made the grip manageable on the XL was attaching the Hogue grip. It really filled my hand nicely and my pinky did not feel out of place. I really like how the XL shoots and it’s easily getting the most carry time in my rotation. Great video as always!
Your reviews are top teir and very informative. You helped sway me away from the Shadow Systems CR920 by stating it's not 100 % reliable. You also swayed me over to a New Sig Sauer 365 xl by this review. Thanks for all your hard work and God Bless You
Coming from someone with smaller hands, it's one of the most ergonomic guns I've ever picked up. Now that I know it works as well as it feels I'm definitely picking one up.
Good day, I saw your review of the SIG P365 which scared me a bit because I had just purchased a P365XL. This review allayed my fears. My P365XL suits me perfectly because I have small hands. All I added is an extended mag release. My SIG has been flawless. It shoots better than I. I'm encouraged, I'm improving. Thanks for your videos!
Traded my P365 for the XL with Romeo 🔴 red dot and it is a fantastic shooter. Red dot helps as my vision isn’t what it used to be. I love the straight trigger as well. Put 1500 rounds through mine with zero issues.
Great honest review. The SigP365XL is a VERY good EDC pistol. I have one and agree about the grip size issue. The compact size to round capacity is awesome. I placed a Holosun 507K on my pistol. It's an awesome EDC choice.
Try the Wilson Combat grip frame - I bought one and it was like night and day - perfect fit for my large hand size. It shoots like a full-sized pistol with the Wilson Combat grip frame. Give it a try! They're only about $65 bucks, so it won't break the bank to give it a whirl.
I have the x macro and bought an XL frame from Wilson for concealability. I actually prefer the shorter grip. Likewise you could just buy the x macro grip from them and throw it on the XL slide...
The 365XL with extended mag has been my EDC for the last 1.5 years and at almost 6k rounds only 1 malfunction. Shot the first 2,500 rds without cleaning and that when I had the malfunction. I have shot at least 12 different brands of ammo; brass and steel case; 115gr. , 124gr. And 147gr. With no issues
Even ammo companies are having quite a few quality control issues themselves this last year or so. It's been hit and miss even in my most reliable firearms.
@@nerdofgod4167 not too many people shoot a ton of self defense ammo but it is important to practice with it to see if it performs different than you are used to in the gun you are using. That being said Hornady critical defense is excellent. I've shot a couple hundred rounds of 9mm and at least that in .380 without any problems. That is through 25 or more pistols.
I carried this gun for a little over 2 years now(replaced my shield 2.0), while I really have no complaints, the grip is just too small for my hands. I picked up a shield plus and the 365XL will now go back in my safe. The shield is a better gun for me...not saying the 365XL is not a great gun, but the shield is better, for me. I cant tell you how much I appreciate your channel, my fav channel for gun gun reviews hands down!!
Just picked this up tonight. Very tough choice for me to make between it and the shield 2.0. The dealer had it for $30 cheaper than anyone else. The feel, sights, capacity won me over. Now to wait for sunlight tomorrow to run it! Another great video, keep them comin', sir!
This was helpful. As a woman, I have small hands. I’m gonna try this one at a range soon. I want a new gun and wanna try tons out before I spend $500-$800.
With True Precision offering threaded barrels, Icarus Precision making custom metal frames, and red dot options, it’s really a great platform. Became my year round carry.
Does anyone offer a grip that is thicker from front to back? I like the platform but the grip is crazy small. I find that the Sheild Plus has a much better handling grip but I don't prefer it as a platform for various reasons.
@@Ohitsmattyice I know, but I DO NOT like rubber on my carry guns. I've seen other with the same complaints about Hogue grips. It's just odd that there are NO grip size options from Sig beyond an XL grip LENGTH. I mean, they have a modular system. The aftermarket has not tackled it either, AFAIK.
I have the P365X and it is fantastic, I initially went with the Hellcat to replace my M&P Shield as my daily carry gun and I really enjoy the Hellcat and chose it over the original P365. I don't care for the slide length of the P365XL, but the P365X is to me the best of both worlds! It's got the flat trigger, optics cut, extended beavertail and longer grip of the XL, but the short slide of the original. I have the Holosun 407k and it's a much better red dot than the Sig Romeo Zero! Great video as always!
To me the difference in slide length between the p365 and the XL is not a big enough difference to justify the original. Wanted a p365 for awhile, until I seen and compared to the XL. Went with the XL.
@@love2chiefs agreed. I had an opportunity to get the x when they were in high demand but if the xl has a better trigger then all the better. I'm 5'6'' so the shorter barrel albeit by not much does almost make me forget it is there. Perhaps in the future its the x for ankle and xl apendix. lol
I know this is a late comment but she looked super comfortable with the 365 xl, that gives me confidence because I was looking for a gun for my wife and I think this is what I'm going to go with. Thank y'all
My absolute favorite pistol on the market for edc. I myself have larger hands as well, switched to the Wilson combat grip module and I can shoot this thing like a laser now. Just adds enough to the grip for me to get both hands on it. I was a Glock 48 guy but this is on another level for comfortability and shootability. Love it
I’ve had the 365XL for over a year now. Installed Wilson Combat grip module and the tungsten weights. Grip fits & feels better in my larger hands and with less felt recoil. Definitely recommend the Wilson Combat grip module!
Great review. Others who post videos aren't as thorough as you. Well done. It is a great gun; especially to those of us who are huge Sig fans. I love my P365XL. Love it. I have not had one issue with it in over 2 years (and over 1500 rounds). The small grip problem that you mentioned several times is true (I had the same issue), but is easily addressed. Just put a Hogue rubber grip on. It'll cost less than $25 and it makes a world of difference. Thanks for your video.
It really was fantastic how that comment came out naturally. I was going to mention that that girl adds a lot to your channel with her great filming and her occasional awesome comments, so I'll just put it here.
I'm just getting into the firearms scene and I love your channel. Informative and entertaining. I purchased a Sig P320 compact last weekend. Haven't gotten to shoot it yet. Unfortunately, I live in an area where I will have to find time to go to a range to practice. Too populated around me to shoot in the backyard. Anyway, thanks for the great, honest content.
I have large hands. I put Talon wrap on rubber grips on my 365XL.. problem fixed. Gun is fantastic and with the 507k sight, maybe the best EDC I've owned in 20 years. Also, very good reset, I can get three shots off very fast. Enjoy!
Just bought this for my first gun buy ever. I pick it up in a few days and can't wait (got a 3 day delay AFTER buying it at the store...bummer). Can't wait to break it in and I've heard it's an awesome EDC. Update: Had this for almost 2 months and I absolutely love it. Perfect for edc, I'd highly recommend it to anyone. The only issue I've had with it, I tried to install my romeozero red dot myself and ended up stripping one of the iron sight screws VERY easily. One started turning easily the other (I thought was doing the same) stripped in less than one turn. So be VERY careful if you're planning on installing your red dot.
Literally just bought this gun and picking it up Monday and I was worried this entire video he was gonna shit on it. Super confident and happy with my purchase now! Keep up the work man I trust your insight
I thought the same thing you did. I just got mine a week ago, had a few RTB failures in the first 100 hundred rounds due to the insanely stiff mag spring but now have 350+ and the failures have subsided. I'm happy with this blaster and it is now in my EDC rotation.
Augie M yeah iv got about 500 through mine and I haven’t hade one issue or failure. Well I guess my one issue would be loading putting a full mag in with one in the chamber. Gotta really force it to go it. Other than that she been perf
@@7fingers320 Almost 600 rounds in and its running like a Swiss watch. Break-in period is in the rear view mirror. Carrying it with high confidence. Be safe.
Putting the normal p365 grip module on this gun seems like the best combo, and I really like the fact that can be done without any permanent modification.
This gun is what I carry. I think its perfect for those with short fingers small hands but still wants the accuracy of that little longer barrel. It's hard to find a small gripped gun with a longer barrel.
I really appreciate your shooting skills, it'd be great if you made some educational videos about how you shoot, as in for example when do you shoot with one eye and when do you shoot with both eyes, how to shoot with a single hand, basically videos about the fundamentals of pistol shooting and such, maybe on rifles too. p.s love your videos.
I'm a smaller framed guy, about 5'4" and 135 pounds, and this gun was the only one that I could comfortably hold as well as conceal. Wish there were more 9mm options out there for smaller people, but this is the only one at this point and I carry it almost everyday. Also, hello from another fellow Iowan!
Bro don't fall into that same height little bigger in weight and I conceal a glock 21 everyday. You don't need a micro pistol. Buy clothes that work for what you wanna carry
@@Jaypc06 🤣 Just wear a trench coat 24/7 even when it's 90+ degrees with 98% humidity in FL. What's the problem? Then you can conceal a 12-gauge, an AR, a lever-action, & five handguns. I'm not sure why you're complaining, you should listen to andog6092.
True, everything you said! Terrific review and some darn good shooting by the entire HO family! I bought one of these mid-October and it is just the perfect carry pistol for me. Yes, it’s almost able to transition to home defense and I’m sure many will do so. An all-around terrific shooter with nicely manageable recoil that really needs no changes out of the box. Importantly, to me, it doesn’t need to use magazine extensions to get a full grip. And love that flat, 90° break trigger! I’ve been waiting most of my life for this gun. At 67yo you can imagine what I started out carrying. A 5 shot Chief’s Special Airweight; a POS that NOBODY wanted to practice with. I could shoot the P365 all day, it’s so enjoyable. I’ve also been able to clear the deck of most of my small single stacks thanks to the P365XL arriving at about the same size as my PPS M2 (but with better weight distribution). It’s amazing.
I own one, and overall I really like it but lately I've noticed that the sides of the grip are pretty smooth and my support hand tends to slip when shooting. I'm talking about the sides with the star burst texturing, for whatever reason they seem smooth and it's solely for that reason I've gone back to the OEM grip module. I compared the two grips and noticed I slip less with the OEM one
Bought this sig a while back. Prime cc so far; put upwards of 400-500 rnds through so far. No double feeds, no misfiring. The trigger is something I highly recommend updating, me personally, something just wasn't right. Had to update the romeo site for a swampfox green dot, I can grab the site-picture quicker for some reason. But all in all, I definitely recommend this sig.
yea but even i was surprised after seeing the 365 vs 365xl next to eschother in person. it rlly wouldn’t make a big enough difference for somone with bigger hands and i mean like actual big hands not just fat palms lol
That's what I thought about the xl , we wanted the 365 for the size , now people are buying the xl and mounting a dot and light , I think we forgot what made the 365 special
I love how you can point out your biases and put them aside. You mentioned how it’s not great for you because of your big hands but at the end explain that this is a great choice for concealed carry. Most guntubers would just say how they can’t get get a grip and that the gun is terrible because of that.
I like this video. your factual and don't beat around the bush with silly TH-cam antics, way yo go !! thumbs up. i have this firearm for CCW and your right on point with your review.
I got to check this out at my local gun store, and it's the perfect size for my little girl mitts! It's really hard to find a gun that sits in my hands so perfectly.
Adding an optic is really easy, I just put a new one on last night. The RomeoZero is obviously what it was designed for, but other micro optics like the Holosun 407K also fit perfectly.
Fit my hand like a glove, loved it! I have the Glock 19x and tried to use for concealed carry. Just too big. I shoot well with it, however I wanted something that conceals better yet still shoots well and good mag capacity. The 365XL is perfect for me.
You mentioned in your G48 review that you’re planning on doing a G48 vs G43X vs G43 comparison... I think you should throw the P365XL in the mix!! The XL slots between the G48 and G43X (size wise).
@@czwarlord9243 No it isn't ! What have you been smoking ?! 🤷🤦 PS: With Shield Arms 15 rounds flush-fit magazines and also their 15+5 as backup, and there is no competition. clingerholsters.com/sig-p365-xl-vs-glock-43x-with-pictures/
I just bought the XL grip/frame for my p365. I love having flush fit mags and being able to do dry fire practice without removing the follower from one of my 12 round mags
Medium/large hands here, never held another gun that fit my hands as well as this one does. Only reason I don't have it is I can't justify something larger than my 365 with only 2 more rounds. If I want more than 10+1 then I'm not concealed, and I have my XDM on my hip.
Whats funny is, i saw this pistol pop up in my yt feed, thought it was pre’ cool but was ultimately uninterested. Next thing i know, im in my local shop, picking up some of that sweet sweet 9mm and what do i see for sale? A brand new p365 xl equipped with the remeo zero for $799. Lord forgive me for i have sinned. Now it’s in my holster, on my waist. Took it to the range, put it thru some boxes of 9mm, ultimately satisfied. Gdi.
O have been a glock and h&k guy for a while. Never had a problem with sig, just did not own one. I bought a p365xl and I absolutely love it. For carry it is great. I like it so much I might buy a smaller p365
I personally think critiques like “grip is small” or “can’t get a good handle on it” are superfluous. The gun is designed to be small and compact, you can’t expect a nice-fitting grip for most people on this type of design.
So true. I have large hands and the grip to me is very comfortable. I think a distinction should be made between large hands and freakishly long fingers.
I usually watch your reviews within A day or 2 of the bell ringing. One of the things that really like about this review is that you clearly mentioned the diminutive size of the grip. I struggle to put my hand inside Magpul 3XL shooting gloves. So, I really appreciate the input on the size of the grip. I found that I could not hold the 365 because my forward supporting hand thumb extended beyond the end of the barrel so I had considered the XL. However, now knowing how small that grip is, I'm putting that idea in the "round file" too.
The P365XL for concealed carry and the Sig P320 X-Carry (with a GasPedal) for home defense!! That is my formula! I have a rail light on my P320 X-Carry and it sits very nicely on my bedside pistol magnet... and I also have a Canik TP9 with a rail light in the main hallway... I am in love with all 3 of these pistols for their application! I have a Hellcat on my vest front panel as a backup, and I love that too (not in love with the trigger system, but for a crisis gun, it works soooo nicely).
I just bought a P365XL and I love it, order the Wilson Combat grips, cannot wait to try them out!!!, have the Wilson combat grip on, it is even better, with the extra width it fits my hand even better.
Very funny interaction with the Mrs. I’ve been waiting for the jury on this gun. The original was just so small that I found my support thumb crazy close to muzzle (XL gloves are generally not long enough in fingers for me) in the stores and then the firing pin issues arose. This could be the magic mix of improvements to get a really concealable size. Nice review. Thanks to both you and KS.
Just FYI, for those with larger hands… put a Hogue grip on it. For reference, I’m 6’-5” & 295lbs, and this is my daily carry. I’ve bought and shot every other CCW out there and I always come back to this one. It carrie’s slimmer and shoots better than anything else for me. Trust me, that $10-$15 grip makes all the difference!
Good review even when you're not really thrilled with Sig Sauers. I have the 365xl and love it, it's the best CC gun out there especially in the XL. very easy to c.carry.
I don't know if they did a redesign or not since this video, but I picked up an XL recently and I'd say it has the very best striker trigger I've ever had.
It's somewhat strange how the reset felt long to Mrs. Outlaw, the consensus on the XL is that its a short reset, I wonder if it's the way the flat trigger breaks that made it feel weird to her. Always good to see different perspectives.
Thanks for the review. First time buyer and getting my CC permit. Review was helpful especially bc I was dead set on getting the 365 and didnt know an XL existed.
Nutnfancy somehow rambles for 35 minutes on this gun. Thank you for respecting viewer time by keeping your presentations concise. Yours is the shortest review and covers ask the bases, and has some funny moments. If I wasn’t already subbed I’d sub now lol
I purchased a $12 Hogue sleeve for the thin small grip on this pistol and that solved the problem for my large hands. I was able to shoot much better after putting the Hogue on. This pistol is my EDC.
I recently purchased the XL and at the 3 and 7 yard my grouping was about 3 inch circle, got a little sloppy at 15 yards but overall extremely accurate.
If you can happen to find a CZ p-10 subcompact you need to try it. Although, unfortunately right now it is basically a unicorn gun. I haven't even found any distributors that can get it at the moment. 3.5-in barrel and a 12-round capacity with the flush fit mag but it's slightly thicker than the 365 XL. I'm actually cleaning my 365 XL right now so I'm very familiar with both
@@dilldowschwagginz2674 As a male, I have a smaller hand. The Sig P365 XL fits my hand better than my S&WE M&P 9c (12 round magazine). I can shoot my 9c just fine but the XL allows my thumb nail to wrap to the cuticle of my first finger where the 9c allows me to wrap my thumb nail to the front of the first finger nail.
All m&p is not in the same ballpark as Sig, they should stick to manufacturing revolvers! Oh, the s&w victory not even close to Browning and Ruger in 22lr.
The XL isn't necessarily the "next generation" of the P365. It's just a larger version of the same generation gun. The first few production runs of the P365 had some issues in a small percentage of guns. Those have been corrected in later production runs.
They have to improve quality control for me to be a sig fan again. I used to love sig but After the recent issues with the original p365 and the p320’s and problems I have seen with the XL I have just loss trust in sig. love your channel and greatly appreciate your reviews!
Excellent feedback thanks, exactly what I was looking for. How about a comparison with the new G48 single stack as I believe dimensions are very close.
Hey Honest Outlaw who would you recommend for dependable low priced ammo in bulk? Hopefully with a discount code? Ps I love all your stuff. This is why I come to you for advice.
Would love to see the P365XL vs Walther PPS M2 as I think they are the leaders in this plus sized sub-compact segment. Like your wife’s opinion on their shootability and control. Keep up the great work. Love the channel.
My lgs had these on sale today for 350. Bought this and a 15 round mag. It’s the most comfortable edc/compact/cc type of gun I’ve held. Excited to train with it. Then start switching to this from my g19 as an edc.
I carry the p320 compact carry and I love it, but I'm a sig guy anyway. With the p320 compact carry it has a heavier slide but is very accurate with a 3.9 in barrel and the had grip is perfect fit for my hand. Not really a fan of optics I'm old fashion using iron sights. Glad to see you reviewing sig instead of the mainstay of Glock videos. Just wanted to say thanks
as always, great review! I love my XL with the exception of the trigger pull. Too much take up, not very crisp break. But that doesn't deter me from loving the gun....
Glocks never felt good in my hands and I don't have small hands. Everyone uses Glocks like a gold standard, but I never liked them at all. I think that the grip shape being good or bad is subjective and could go either way for different people.
Love my P365XL. I swapped the grip for a Wilson Combat grip with tungsten weights. Huge difference! Also added a Holosun 407k green dot. This is my favorite in my collection
I got the Wilson frame too. Absolutely love it
I put two Talon grips on mine. It's good but it sounds like the Wilson is better
The Wilson grip was well worth the $60. I took my 407k off and went back to just using the night sights. Not seeing the dot in daylight, or having it so bright indoors or at night time, that you're blinded by your own optic was not fun. Irons aren't as sexy, but at least they're consistent.
I don't know who needs to hear this, but this might help someone in reference to maintenance. I've had my XL for about a month. I have the model with the paddle safeties. I took it apart and cleaned it, scrubbing in down and then running it through the ultrasonic cleaner. When I lubed and reassembled it, during the safety check, the safety lever got stuck in the on position. What this means is that if that happens, you can't disassemble the gun. I fiddled with it enough I was finally able to get it off safe. Inspection revealed that the safety lever bar was completely dry...I hadn't gotten any oil to it, which caused it to lock up. After oiling that bar (and the holes in the frame it passes through), and working the safety a few times, it started working as it should again. Not super important, just an FYI. Might help someone else.
Not super helpful since I already bought one, but reaffirms my decision to forego the safety. I tried one with a safety in the store, and it just felt too anemic. Like, if I carried with the safety on, and I needed to shit my shorts and draw on somebody quick, I may have an issue getting the safety off. Good to know I also avoided a potential lubrication malfunction, and very important for anybody still looking. Thanks for sharing.
Just another reason to not get a model with a safety.
Can always take off the safety. Very fast and easy to do. Always put it back on for those who prefer it.
I prefer the saftey option
If you have children around, the safety might be a good idea.
I have personally owned and carried this gun, and shot it of course. I loved how smooth it felt, the grip was perfect for my medium sized hands, and the ammo capacity was right on target for what I wanted in a ccw. The night sights are fantastic, I really had no complaints for the first few hundred rounds. Awesome gun, I feel it's worth the price tag
Your review sounds past tense, did you replace it with something else? I'm not real fond of mine
How much did you pay for it? Thanks.
@@tspandya I don’t know if you have a Sportsman’s in your neck of the woods, or if they have the same sale going on, but mine has the 365XL with one 12 round and two 15 round mags + a holster for 519 right now
Wish had 12 rnd
Ive had the gun for like 3 years now and my rear two night sights went out tbey dont glow anymore
I just bought this gun about a week ago and I love it. I have researched Sig for years before finally deciding to buy this and I'm happy I did. Right out the box I knew It was the one for me.
From where ?
@@thaddmidd3359 Cabela's I ordered online picked up in store
Him: Talk dirty to me
Her: whispers* trigger reset
Him: ohhh... Knee buckles*
THAT SIR is HILLARIOUS and may be TRUE
"The reset is loooong.." "*shivers and gets goosebumps*"
It's sooo audible 😍😍😍
LMAOOOOOOOOO
😂
Love this gun. It is so accurate it’s unbelievable. So comfortable to carry I just can’t say enough about this gun. My new EDC.
Just purchased it for new EDC. Pumped.
Your going to love it!!!
I can’t believe I’m saying it, but I may replace my Shield and PCR with the P365XL.
@@jonathanl2748 shield maybe but never the pcr
@@Jaybird-oo3ih Yeah,, you’re right. The PCR is too nice.
So my first thought when purchasing and shooting the XL is that the grip was tiny for my hands. I have L/XL glove hands and the only thing that made the grip manageable on the XL was attaching the Hogue grip. It really filled my hand nicely and my pinky did not feel out of place. I really like how the XL shoots and it’s easily getting the most carry time in my rotation. Great video as always!
Your reviews are top teir and very informative. You helped sway me away from the Shadow Systems CR920 by stating it's not 100 % reliable. You also swayed me over to a New Sig Sauer 365 xl by this review. Thanks for all your hard work and God Bless You
Coming from someone with smaller hands, it's one of the most ergonomic guns I've ever picked up. Now that I know it works as well as it feels I'm definitely picking one up.
Good day, I saw your review of the SIG P365 which scared me a bit because I had just purchased a P365XL. This review allayed my fears. My P365XL suits me perfectly because I have small hands. All I added is an extended mag release.
My SIG has been flawless. It shoots better than I. I'm encouraged, I'm improving.
Thanks for your videos!
Traded my P365 for the XL with Romeo 🔴 red dot and it is a fantastic shooter. Red dot helps as my vision isn’t what it used to be. I love the straight trigger as well. Put 1500 rounds through mine with zero issues.
Great honest review. The SigP365XL is a VERY good EDC pistol. I have one and agree about the grip size issue. The compact size to round capacity is awesome. I placed a Holosun 507K on my pistol. It's an awesome EDC choice.
Try the Wilson Combat grip frame - I bought one and it was like night and day - perfect fit for my large hand size. It shoots like a full-sized pistol with the Wilson Combat grip frame. Give it a try! They're only about $65 bucks, so it won't break the bank to give it a whirl.
I have the x macro and bought an XL frame from Wilson for concealability. I actually prefer the shorter grip. Likewise you could just buy the x macro grip from them and throw it on the XL slide...
The 365XL with extended mag has been my EDC for the last 1.5 years and at almost 6k rounds only 1 malfunction. Shot the first 2,500 rds without cleaning and that when I had the malfunction. I have shot at least 12 different brands of ammo; brass and steel case; 115gr. , 124gr. And 147gr. With no issues
I guess it was true what my DS told me at basic... ALWAYS MANTAIN yOUR WEAPONS CLEAN AND GREASED UP AFTET 500 RNDs
Did you buy your ammo before the price increase or just Elon Musk rich ?
Even ammo companies are having quite a few quality control issues themselves this last year or so. It's been hit and miss even in my most reliable firearms.
That is comforting to know for those of us that can't afford that amount of ammo. How did Hornady critical defense perform, that's mostly what I use?
@@nerdofgod4167 not too many people shoot a ton of self defense ammo but it is important to practice with it to see if it performs different than you are used to in the gun you are using. That being said Hornady critical defense is excellent. I've shot a couple hundred rounds of 9mm and at least that in
.380 without any problems. That is through 25 or more pistols.
I carried this gun for a little over 2 years now(replaced my shield 2.0), while I really have no complaints, the grip is just too small for my hands. I picked up a shield plus and the 365XL will now go back in my safe. The shield is a better gun for me...not saying the 365XL is not a great gun, but the shield is better, for me. I cant tell you how much I appreciate your channel, my fav channel for gun gun reviews hands down!!
Just picked this up tonight. Very tough choice for me to make between it and the shield 2.0. The dealer had it for $30 cheaper than anyone else. The feel, sights, capacity won me over. Now to wait for sunlight tomorrow to run it! Another great video, keep them comin', sir!
at least Smith & Wesson uses stainless steel magazines
This was helpful. As a woman, I have small hands. I’m gonna try this one at a range soon. I want a new gun and wanna try tons out before I spend $500-$800.
ranges near me allow you to rent a gun and buy ammo
Another lady here. Love this fit in my hand. I have medium sized hands for a woman. I think you’ll love it
With True Precision offering threaded barrels, Icarus Precision making custom metal frames, and red dot options, it’s really a great platform. Became my year round carry.
Does anyone offer a grip that is thicker from front to back? I like the platform but the grip is crazy small. I find that the Sheild Plus has a much better handling grip but I don't prefer it as a platform for various reasons.
@@justinkase1360 hogue makes a grip for it.
@@Ohitsmattyice I know, but I DO NOT like rubber on my carry guns. I've seen other with the same complaints about Hogue grips. It's just odd that there are NO grip size options from Sig beyond an XL grip LENGTH. I mean, they have a modular system. The aftermarket has not tackled it either, AFAIK.
@@justinkase1360 the Wilson combat grip is gonna be thicker all around
Wife just purchased it and loves it. She is 5'2 110 lbs and conceals it no problem. I must say i enjoy carrying it as well.
I have the P365X and it is fantastic, I initially went with the Hellcat to replace my M&P Shield as my daily carry gun and I really enjoy the Hellcat and chose it over the original P365. I don't care for the slide length of the P365XL, but the P365X is to me the best of both worlds! It's got the flat trigger, optics cut, extended beavertail and longer grip of the XL, but the short slide of the original. I have the Holosun 407k and it's a much better red dot than the Sig Romeo Zero! Great video as always!
Thanks for the input! It said the optics cut is just for the Romeo. How did you put on the 407k?
To me the difference in slide length between the p365 and the XL is not a big enough difference to justify the original. Wanted a p365 for awhile, until I seen and compared to the XL. Went with the XL.
@@love2chiefs agreed. I had an opportunity to get the x when they were in high demand but if the xl has a better trigger then all the better. I'm 5'6'' so the shorter barrel albeit by not much does almost make me forget it is there. Perhaps in the future its the x for ankle and xl apendix. lol
I know this is a late comment but she looked super comfortable with the 365 xl, that gives me confidence because I was looking for a gun for my wife and I think this is what I'm going to go with. Thank y'all
It would have been weird if you weren’t turned on
I'm touching my... gun
Starting about 6:35 - I'm not the only one to comment, but that's the best part of any gun review ever...
My absolute favorite pistol on the market for edc. I myself have larger hands as well, switched to the Wilson combat grip module and I can shoot this thing like a laser now. Just adds enough to the grip for me to get both hands on it. I was a Glock 48 guy but this is on another level for comfortability and shootability. Love it
I have a Glock 48 and am looking to get a 365 xl to replace it
I have small hands and this is the FIRST gun that I held that actually felt right. I Love it.
I’ve had the 365XL for over a year now. Installed Wilson Combat grip module and the tungsten weights. Grip fits & feels better in my larger hands and with less felt recoil. Definitely recommend the Wilson Combat grip module!
How has the reliability been?
@@Zondidjejsj Owned a P365xl for 3 years now, and it's been flawless. No issues at all, with any ammo I throw at it.
Great review. Others who post videos aren't as thorough as you. Well done. It is a great gun; especially to those of us who are huge Sig fans. I love my P365XL. Love it. I have not had one issue with it in over 2 years (and over 1500 rounds). The small grip problem that you mentioned several times is true (I had the same issue), but is easily addressed. Just put a Hogue rubber grip on. It'll cost less than $25 and it makes a world of difference. Thanks for your video.
"is it weird that you just turned me on when you talked about reset" might be the greatest thing ive ever heard in my life.
I 2nd that!!! Seriously made my year!
Lmfaoooo #accurate.
Fantastic. Laughed so loud in agreement my neighbors asked if I’m ok. Love this channel
It really was fantastic how that comment came out naturally. I was going to mention that that girl adds a lot to your channel with her great filming and her occasional awesome comments, so I'll just put it here.
Lol... Love you didn't edit it out 😜
I'm just getting into the firearms scene and I love your channel. Informative and entertaining. I purchased a Sig P320 compact last weekend. Haven't gotten to shoot it yet. Unfortunately, I live in an area where I will have to find time to go to a range to practice. Too populated around me to shoot in the backyard. Anyway, thanks for the great, honest content.
I can honestly say I never thought of "reset" that way but now it will be our "safe word"😂
I have large hands. I put Talon wrap on rubber grips on my 365XL.. problem fixed. Gun is fantastic and with the 507k sight, maybe the best EDC I've owned in 20 years. Also, very good reset, I can get three shots off very fast. Enjoy!
Just bought this for my first gun buy ever. I pick it up in a few days and can't wait (got a 3 day delay AFTER buying it at the store...bummer). Can't wait to break it in and I've heard it's an awesome EDC.
Update: Had this for almost 2 months and I absolutely love it. Perfect for edc, I'd highly recommend it to anyone. The only issue I've had with it, I tried to install my romeozero red dot myself and ended up stripping one of the iron sight screws VERY easily. One started turning easily the other (I thought was doing the same) stripped in less than one turn. So be VERY careful if you're planning on installing your red dot.
Literally just bought this gun and picking it up Monday and I was worried this entire video he was gonna shit on it. Super confident and happy with my purchase now! Keep up the work man I trust your insight
I thought the same thing you did. I just got mine a week ago, had a few RTB failures in the first 100 hundred rounds due to the insanely stiff mag spring but now have 350+ and the failures have subsided. I'm happy with this blaster and it is now in my EDC rotation.
Augie M yeah iv got about 500 through mine and I haven’t hade one issue or failure. Well I guess my one issue would be loading putting a full mag in with one in the chamber. Gotta really force it to go it. Other than that she been perf
@@7fingers320 Almost 600 rounds in and its running like a Swiss watch. Break-in period is in the rear view mirror. Carrying it with high confidence. Be safe.
I have this gun as my carry pistol and I love it
Nice!
Same here except I'm using the smaller p365 frame
Same
Same, but I jave an XL grip frame instead of the original. highly recommended if you like the 12s
19X makes no sense get a G17 its just as hard to conceal.
Just upgraded from a ruger lc9 too this , Absolutely love the mag capacity and grip feeling , The night sights are also a plus.
Putting the normal p365 grip module on this gun seems like the best combo, and I really like the fact that can be done without any permanent modification.
Just go 365x
@@lessforloans he wants the longer slide on shorter grip module. Not the other way around.
Just got one today! My 4th Sig over the years, love em, still have my P6.
This gun is what I carry. I think its perfect for those with short fingers small hands but still wants the accuracy of that little longer barrel. It's hard to find a small gripped gun with a longer barrel.
Agree!!!
I really appreciate your shooting skills, it'd be great if you made some educational videos about how you shoot, as in for example when do you shoot with one eye and when do you shoot with both eyes, how to shoot with a single hand, basically videos about the fundamentals of pistol shooting and such, maybe on rifles too. p.s love your videos.
iCantThink OfAbetterName yes!
Agreed guys. I love his videos that's a great suggestion.
Agreed. Need more replies to get his attention.
Agreed
I'd be interested in some of his pointers
I'm a smaller framed guy, about 5'4" and 135 pounds, and this gun was the only one that I could comfortably hold as well as conceal. Wish there were more 9mm options out there for smaller people, but this is the only one at this point and I carry it almost everyday. Also, hello from another fellow Iowan!
Do you have any issues concealing? Im about the same size, and torn between the 365 and the 365xl
Bro don't fall into that same height little bigger in weight and I conceal a glock 21 everyday. You don't need a micro pistol. Buy clothes that work for what you wanna carry
@@zachcoffen618 comes down to personal preference there, they both conceal pretty decent.
@@andog6092 fuck that Shìt, not tryna wear more clothes in Florida heat just to hide a Glock 19 😭
@@Jaypc06 🤣 Just wear a trench coat 24/7 even when it's 90+ degrees with 98% humidity in FL. What's the problem? Then you can conceal a 12-gauge, an AR, a lever-action, & five handguns. I'm not sure why you're complaining, you should listen to andog6092.
True, everything you said! Terrific review and some darn good shooting by the entire HO family! I bought one of these mid-October and it is just the perfect carry pistol for me. Yes, it’s almost able to transition to home defense and I’m sure many will do so. An all-around terrific shooter with nicely manageable recoil that really needs no changes out of the box. Importantly, to me, it doesn’t need to use magazine extensions to get a full grip. And love that flat, 90° break trigger! I’ve been waiting most of my life for this gun. At 67yo you can imagine what I started out carrying. A 5 shot Chief’s Special Airweight; a POS that NOBODY wanted to practice with. I could shoot the P365 all day, it’s so enjoyable. I’ve also been able to clear the deck of most of my small single stacks thanks to the P365XL arriving at about the same size as my PPS M2 (but with better weight distribution). It’s amazing.
Have you tried it with the Wilson Combat P365XL Grip Module?
I have one on mine and it made a huge difference for me
I own one, and overall I really like it but lately I've noticed that the sides of the grip are pretty smooth and my support hand tends to slip when shooting. I'm talking about the sides with the star burst texturing, for whatever reason they seem smooth and it's solely for that reason I've gone back to the OEM grip module. I compared the two grips and noticed I slip less with the OEM one
Bought this sig a while back. Prime cc so far; put upwards of 400-500 rnds through so far. No double feeds, no misfiring. The trigger is something I highly recommend updating, me personally, something just wasn't right. Had to update the romeo site for a swampfox green dot, I can grab the site-picture quicker for some reason. But all in all, I definitely recommend this sig.
Reviews a pistol designed to be small and concealable - complains that it's small.......
yea but even i was surprised after seeing the 365 vs 365xl next to eschother in person. it rlly wouldn’t make a big enough difference for somone with bigger hands and i mean like actual big hands not just fat palms lol
@@whatupgovnafat palms? You mean short fingers lol
That’s all that he could muster, this pistol is great. Physics is always the challenge with real small firearms.
@@IMABEAST191. Short fingers? You mean big knuckles like your wife likes.
That's what I thought about the xl , we wanted the 365 for the size , now people are buying the xl and mounting a dot and light , I think we forgot what made the 365 special
I love how you can point out your biases and put them aside. You mentioned how it’s not great for you because of your big hands but at the end explain that this is a great choice for concealed carry. Most guntubers would just say how they can’t get get a grip and that the gun is terrible because of that.
I agree with your takes on this pistol. I just picked it up recently and I think it's a great little carry piece.
I like this video. your factual and don't beat around the bush with silly TH-cam antics, way yo go !! thumbs up. i have this firearm for CCW and your right on point with your review.
I got to check this out at my local gun store, and it's the perfect size for my little girl mitts! It's really hard to find a gun that sits in my hands so perfectly.
Same I never had a gun feel so perfect in my garden gnome hands
@@williamfernandez6859 "Garden gnome hands!" Ahahaha! XD That's awesome. Little people, unite! And buy Sigs!
Same with my girl mits😂
Been carrying it since April 2020 and it's been flawless, with both xl grip and 365 grip and trl6.
Have to agree. It's been really hard for to justify carrying anything else since I got the P365XL, esp. since I put a Swampfox Sentinel optic on it.
I am definitely sold on this pistol. The P365 already feels very comfortable in my hands even though it is a little small since I have large hands.
After watching dozens of videos on the P365XL I think the general consesus is this is the CCW gun to purchase UNLESS you have really big hands
I have xl hands and it fits very well. I'm excited for the ammo shortage to end so I can burn rounds through this
I love your banter. God bless the reset.
Adding an optic is really easy, I just put a new one on last night. The RomeoZero is obviously what it was designed for, but other micro optics like the Holosun 407K also fit perfectly.
Your videos have the absolute best videography.
Fit my hand like a glove, loved it! I have the Glock 19x and tried to use for concealed carry. Just too big. I shoot well with it, however I wanted something that conceals better yet still shoots well and good mag capacity. The 365XL is perfect for me.
do you carry iwb? if so is it easy to conceal under Tshirt or button down casual shirt?
Got the p365 micro compact 12+1 in my birthday for Edc and a great tulster oath iwb holster never been happier with this purchase
You mentioned in your G48 review that you’re planning on doing a G48 vs G43X vs G43 comparison... I think you should throw the P365XL in the mix!! The XL slots between the G48 and G43X (size wise).
@@czwarlord9243 No it isn't ! What have you been smoking ?! 🤷🤦
PS: With Shield Arms 15 rounds flush-fit magazines and also their 15+5 as backup, and there is no competition.
clingerholsters.com/sig-p365-xl-vs-glock-43x-with-pictures/
@@BFerreira82 Eh...
Had no idea youre from iowa. Makes me even happier to follow.
I just bought the XL grip/frame for my p365. I love having flush fit mags and being able to do dry fire practice without removing the follower from one of my 12 round mags
Medium/large hands here, never held another gun that fit my hands as well as this one does. Only reason I don't have it is I can't justify something larger than my 365 with only 2 more rounds. If I want more than 10+1 then I'm not concealed, and I have my XDM on my hip.
Whats funny is, i saw this pistol pop up in my yt feed, thought it was pre’ cool but was ultimately uninterested. Next thing i know, im in my local shop, picking up some of that sweet sweet 9mm and what do i see for sale? A brand new p365 xl equipped with the remeo zero for $799. Lord forgive me for i have sinned. Now it’s in my holster, on my waist. Took it to the range, put it thru some boxes of 9mm, ultimately satisfied. Gdi.
Not a bad deal right now either
O have been a glock and h&k guy for a while. Never had a problem with sig, just did not own one. I bought a p365xl and I absolutely love it. For carry it is great. I like it so much I might buy a smaller p365
This is my favorite gun. I love it for EDC. I love the grip and the trigger on it, but I have very small hands.
So does lying & whining Donny J. Trump!
@@haywoodalanhayhorr8052 get a life.
Love this gun. Had it for a minute, had to sell when COVID-19 shut our jobsite down. I will get this again someday
I personally think critiques like “grip is small” or “can’t get a good handle on it” are superfluous. The gun is designed to be small and compact, you can’t expect a nice-fitting grip for most people on this type of design.
So true. I have large hands and the grip to me is very comfortable. I think a distinction should be made between large hands and freakishly long fingers.
Yeah. I'm lucky, I do not have big hands at all.
Excellent video, very informative. Thanks for taking the time to post this video.
I usually watch your reviews within A day or 2 of the bell ringing. One of the things that really like about this review is that you clearly mentioned the diminutive size of the grip. I struggle to put my hand inside Magpul 3XL shooting gloves. So, I really appreciate the input on the size of the grip. I found that I could not hold the 365 because my forward supporting hand thumb extended beyond the end of the barrel so I had considered the XL. However, now knowing how small that grip is, I'm putting that idea in the "round file" too.
The P365XL for concealed carry and the Sig P320 X-Carry (with a GasPedal) for home defense!! That is my formula! I have a rail light on my P320 X-Carry and it sits very nicely on my bedside pistol magnet... and I also have a Canik TP9 with a rail light in the main hallway... I am in love with all 3 of these pistols for their application! I have a Hellcat on my vest front panel as a backup, and I love that too (not in love with the trigger system, but for a crisis gun, it works soooo nicely).
My EDC with the 15 rd mag. Love it
I just bought a P365XL and I love it, order the Wilson Combat grips, cannot wait to try them out!!!, have the Wilson combat grip on, it is even better, with the extra width it fits my hand even better.
Very funny interaction with the Mrs. I’ve been waiting for the jury on this gun. The original was just so small that I found my support thumb crazy close to muzzle (XL gloves are generally not long enough in fingers for me) in the stores and then the firing pin issues arose. This could be the magic mix of improvements to get a really concealable size. Nice review. Thanks to both you and KS.
That's my primary. Has been for a few months. It has replaced my 26 and my Shield. That sir is a feat. The XL is a great gun.
Just FYI, for those with larger hands… put a Hogue grip on it. For reference, I’m 6’-5” & 295lbs, and this is my daily carry. I’ve bought and shot every other CCW out there and I always come back to this one. It carrie’s slimmer and shoots better than anything else for me. Trust me, that $10-$15 grip makes all the difference!
I put on the Wilson combat grip with the tungsten weighted rods👍
What kind of holster you using Hoss?
@@tomsmith205- I like the Desantis Slim Tuk for all my carry guns.
thats what i did it definitely improves the grip for low amount of money spent lol
Good review even when you're not really thrilled with Sig Sauers. I have the 365xl and love it, it's the best CC gun out there especially in the XL. very easy to c.carry.
good info
I love this gun. Im a female and have pretty small hands and its super comfortable for me to grip as well as carry. Totally obsessed with my sig 😍😍
I don't know if they did a redesign or not since this video, but I picked up an XL recently and I'd say it has the very best striker trigger I've ever had.
Not even close to PDP, PPQ, P10, VP9, or canik. Its good but nowhere close to the top for triggers.
Got get some ammo man
It's somewhat strange how the reset felt long to Mrs. Outlaw, the consensus on the XL is that its a short reset, I wonder if it's the way the flat trigger breaks that made it feel weird to her. Always good to see different perspectives.
Thanks for the review. First time buyer and getting my CC permit. Review was helpful especially bc I was dead set on getting the 365 and didnt know an XL existed.
Nutnfancy somehow rambles for 35 minutes on this gun. Thank you for respecting viewer time by keeping your presentations concise. Yours is the shortest review and covers ask the bases, and has some funny moments. If I wasn’t already subbed I’d sub now lol
I watch him to fall asleep sometimes because he just rambles about every gun lmao
I purchased a $12 Hogue sleeve for the thin small grip on this pistol and that solved the problem for my large hands. I was able to shoot much better after putting the Hogue on.
This pistol is my EDC.
I recently purchased the XL and at the 3 and 7 yard my grouping was about 3 inch circle, got a little sloppy at 15 yards but overall extremely accurate.
Bought this today. So excited. Picking it up next week
I was an M&P man until my armorer let me test fire a p365 xl. The sig has become my go to EDC
If you can happen to find a CZ p-10 subcompact you need to try it. Although, unfortunately right now it is basically a unicorn gun. I haven't even found any distributors that can get it at the moment. 3.5-in barrel and a 12-round capacity with the flush fit mag but it's slightly thicker than the 365 XL. I'm actually cleaning my 365 XL right now so I'm very familiar with both
@@dilldowschwagginz2674 As a male, I have a smaller hand. The Sig P365 XL fits my hand better than my S&WE M&P 9c (12 round magazine). I can shoot my 9c just fine but the XL allows my thumb nail to wrap to the cuticle of my first finger where the 9c allows me to wrap my thumb nail to the front of the first finger nail.
All m&p is not in the same ballpark as Sig, they should stick to manufacturing revolvers! Oh, the s&w victory not even close to Browning and Ruger in 22lr.
@@brc1945 Im not a big fan of M&P pistols but their AR's are the best for-the-money rifles on the market. I run CZ pistols most days
Great video. The icarus or wilson combat module's make a huge difference. Great gun with unlimited upgrades
The XL isn't necessarily the "next generation" of the P365. It's just a larger version of the same generation gun. The first few production runs of the P365 had some issues in a small percentage of guns. Those have been corrected in later production runs.
Oh my goodness. I laughed so hard at the trigger reset turning him on comment.
Thanks for the review. I am considering picking this up for as a warm weather EDC. Carry a p320x carry now.
They have to improve quality control for me to be a sig fan again. I used to love sig but After the recent issues with the original p365 and the p320’s and problems I have seen with the XL I have just loss trust in sig. love your channel and greatly appreciate your reviews!
Excellent feedback thanks, exactly what I was looking for. How about a comparison with the new G48 single stack as I believe dimensions are very close.
just bought the 365XL and Romeo zero. Looking forward to putting it through it's paces.
Hey Honest Outlaw who would you recommend for dependable low priced ammo in bulk? Hopefully with a discount code? Ps I love all your stuff. This is why I come to you for advice.
No one.
Use Ammo seek
Freedom munitions. I paid $88 for 200 rounds of 9mm and that was with shipping and tax
@@trevordelarosa3599 freedom munitions is great
@@appaple2937 I haven't shot any of it yet but I've only heard good things so I thought I'd give em a shot
Would love to see the P365XL vs Walther PPS M2 as I think they are the leaders in this plus sized sub-compact segment. Like your wife’s opinion on their shootability and control. Keep up the great work. Love the channel.
Just caught a glimpse of that CZ DWX BY Dan Wesson/CZ - oh my!!!!! Sorry I know it’s off topic!!
It's a 🦄
It’s made of unobtainium
My lgs had these on sale today for 350. Bought this and a 15 round mag. It’s the most comfortable edc/compact/cc type of gun I’ve held. Excited to train with it. Then start switching to this from my g19 as an edc.
Holy crap. That’s half what they are selling for here.
I carry the p320 compact carry and I love it, but I'm a sig guy anyway. With the p320 compact carry it has a heavier slide but is very accurate with a 3.9 in barrel and the had grip is perfect fit for my hand. Not really a fan of optics I'm old fashion using iron sights. Glad to see you reviewing sig instead of the mainstay of Glock videos. Just wanted to say thanks
I have one as well. Love it.
as always, great review! I love my XL with the exception of the trigger pull. Too much take up, not very crisp break. But that doesn't deter me from loving the gun....
Always love to see Mrs. Honest Outlaw shooting the pistol you are reviewing and sharing your passion for firearms.
Glocks never felt good in my hands and I don't have small hands. Everyone uses Glocks like a gold standard, but I never liked them at all. I think that the grip shape being good or bad is subjective and could go either way for different people.