We are planning to install a small solar system this year. The EcoFlow will be used to power our house several different ways, and help use determine our final solar system size for power and battery storage. So there will several videos to come.
Hello. I was just going to ask ... could you run your house off of solar charging and both power banks? But looks like you have that question already in hand. Great work. Stay safe 🏴
I'd suggest installing a generator plug in the house, now with no emissions you can keep your Delta pros inside and out if the weather to power your main panel.
But he could also add the duel fuel smart generator that will automatically power on to charge the batteries when they get low. That’s what I would do and continue using the outdoor plug.
The missing piece here is that those 2 Delta Pros cost nearly as much as an automatic whole home generator, which with a propane tank will run your house for days. Even with the Delta Pros and solar panels, if you get a few cloudy days, you may not have power. Make sure you keep that Generac tip top.
Like most electric things, they are more expensive and have less practicality and run time. But is makes the woke sheep "feel good". While the big companies get you to spend more for less performance....
Right? Nice toy but it definitely has its cons... Think it's better if you with natural gas or propane generator, more powerful, auto start and off when energy is back, not to much maintenance.
@@santiagosalcedo7653 Yeah, I'm running a whole house standby generator on LP with a ATS. I have a 500 gallon tank on site and the unit outputs 22kW. On normal consumption when the LP tank is full it can power my house for about 16 days.
Before I converted to my Generac 22kw, I had a Briggs and Stratton 5500 for about 10-15 years. I took care of it, ran the gas out of the carburetor every time, used fuel stabilizer and about 3 or 4 time per year, I would pull it out and run it for about 10 minutes. It "always" started on the first pull. The difficulty starting this one may be theatrical license.
@@nealmcbaggins127 I have a generator that apparently had a recall and I pull it out from time to time to crank start it. I change the stabilized gas every six months and it still cranks over in at lest three pulls. If you maintain your machines, they will run for a long time, unless it's Briggs and Stratton powered.
We have used the th-cam.com/users/postUgkxOTeIs0vv4_9B5hsmnLsk9r930uDQLu_Y for probably 30 hours with our camper and it’s been great! The noise level is really only noticeable when running the AC and other appliances like the microwave, hair dryer, or coffee pot. It’s not huge like other ones and it has wheels so even at 90lbs, I can move it!
I have a new cheap Harbor Freight $300 3300w generator for four years. Finally used it twice two weeks apart about 3 months ago. First time from 8pm to 4 am. Second time 6pm to 11pm. I ran a 50 foot extension cord to my house and a 50 foot to one of my neighbors and a 100 foot to the other neighbor. It kept their refrigerators running and led lights and I had a refrigerator, freezer modem phone, 5 led lights , laptop, and 2 phone chargers on it. The generator started on the second pull. Our electricity is usually out for only 2 or 3 hours at most. Most times it is only minutes before it comes back on. But I do keep two five gallon can of gas stored to meet any further outages.
I am a Delta Pro owner! I am not affiliated or anything but i am soooooo excited you got one! They may be pricey to start with the initial investment and some may say you should have purchased a whole house generator for that price but what they fail to realize it the stealth and more importantly the mobility. If your parents or immediate families power goes down and not your you can move this power instantly. You can take it to the barn you can take it on vacation ect. You will love it! I am so excited you and your wife!
You took the words right out of my mouth. The mobility of these systems is amazing. I have foldable solar panels (1400 watts) and I can take my mobile power system to my cabin and to my house (as backup) easily.
Those are wicked expensive. Two of those power stations put you in the realm of a decent standby power generator. One that can keep running as long as you have enough fuel.
Having to buy TWO to power all the stuff two freezers, big fridge, all those lights, water heater and furnace controls, ceiling fan, microwave etc etc is a real setback! far batter to isolate things so you only NEED one unit to power some basics instead of the entire 5kw house demand! I have a 1100 sq ft house and the Vitoman Jump 1,000 unit, it will power my normal sized single door fridge, my usually used LED lights, computer/monitor/modem, the electric part of my gas furnace or window A/C, and water softener for a long time- that's all the basics I NEED to power. I have gas water heater with a pilot light, gas cook stove, city water- so no worry about powering a well pump to get water, so the single Vitoman 1000 is the perfect solution for me. I DO have a new powermate 2000i sine wave inverter generator as well, to use as a last option for an extended outage to charge the Vitoman in less than an hour
And if maintained, isn't as hard to start as this fellow shows. I think he forgot to turn on the fuel and ignition or he forgot to set the choke to closed. He may also didn't drain the carburetor so now it's gummed up from bad fuel, with or without ethanol as it is the gasoline itself that has these issues. Gasoline engines are fairly simple devices these days. Batteries, especially large ones like EcoFlow have a tendency to run away when a problem comes and basically turn into a large home fire starter. Generators are less likely to do this because if the fuel is full and sealed in the tank , it won't burn. You need the right amount of oxidizer to spark a fire.
lol. ask the Helene victims how much fuel they were able to get. and if they were, how outrageously expensive it was. anyway....only a battery power station like these are able to use solar for complete independence on outside fuel sources that may be unavailable when a disaster hits. better yet, get an EV like a Ford lightning so you can use it's enormous battery to power your house.
I have two Delta Pros, two extra batteries, and a double voltage hub. I have the generator inlet outside feeding a transfer switch inside. I wanted to keep the Delta Pros inside and didn't want to have to run a cable outside, so I added another generator inlet with a switch (Reliance Controls CSR302 - minor rewiring required) inside, so I could select either the Delta Pros or the Generator. This configuration works very well. Unfortunately, I have electric heat, so I can't run that with the DPs, but I also have a woodstove with a blower and that works well. I can also run my well pump, 2 freezers, one refrigerator, some aquarium heaters and various other lights and devices. One thing to be aware of is that although they advertise 3600w capacity, the inverter will take up to 10% of that, so it is closer to 3200w using the inverter. The DPs work well, but they are expensive. I have never gotten the app to work well. I was able to pick up mine as part of the Kickstarter campaign, so I got a better price. I don't have gas or propane on my property, but if I did, I would probably have gone with a whole house generator. There are going to be times when you will have to run the generator, so please pick up one with electric start. I would suggest an inverter so you can run any electronic equipment. I am using the Champion Power Equipment 100520. A word of warning with the DPs - If you have them plugged in while you are using them for backup, such as they are feeding themselves, they will burn up. Unless you are using them as a pseuo-UPS, it's best to unplug them once they are charged.
This is great for short outages like a few hours. In a serious ice or snowstorm where crews cannot get you restored for a couple of days, you're going to need a fossil-fuel generator. I use a 4kw Generac that I converted to natural gas and it starts quickly and runs for the duration, back-feeding the 240 v breaker panel. I disconnect the main breaker, the electric water heater, dryer, electric oven and dual-fuel heat pump (don't want to hit the heat pump electronics with the raw non-sine wave output of the generator) during the outages. We then heat with natural gas fireplace logs in the main living area and a natural gas space heater in the basement. The 50 gallon electric water heater keeps warm water for 1 to 2 days and that's why that we did not opt for a tankless gas water heater. With natural gas prices doubling here and almost quadrupling in some areas, the tankless approach is less justifiable. Each homeowner's situation is different. This is what works for us.
What happens when you run out of natural gas? Or if the Generac fails outside in the elements during the serious ice storm? It would be nice to have a backup option right? That's what a solar generator will do for you. It's great to have options and if you have a Generac and a solar generator you are gold during any emergency situation. An Ecoflow is just another tool in the tool box. I personally like to have lots of tools my tool box.
@@Speed00007 If your on CNG, you are probably on public CNG not a tank. so you will never run out. But if it is a tank, then have it refilled when it hits 30%. I do think having a Batter Backup is a good option however. But there are far less expensive options than these things.
@@rb2530 You are saying that if I'm on a CNG I will never run out of gas? If the pipeline is damaged or the gas company decides to shut off the gas I will never run out right? Relying on a corporation for 100% of my energy needs is such a smart idea!
I really appreciate your diligence here. I’ve taken the first step to getting whole home backup power. Your video solidified what I intended to do. Thank you
i have a natural gas stand-by generator with a transfer switch that turns on automatically,it powers the whole hose and will run longer than these and it was less than one of those units
My power was just out for 5 days, on for 2, off for 8. I'll keep my generators, thanks. If you can't start a motor, you should definitely have a battery generator.
@@DM-fp8uw 2 of these units, plus enough solar to keep them charged, plus a gas generator for when you don't have enough sun to charge, would cost way more than the $16-$17k you were quoted for that system.
@@DM-fp8uw I hear that. I play around with solar and batteries, built my own, almost comparable system on the cheap. I can recharge my battery bank in around 2 hrs with a 3500w inverter gene, and run for a day or two even with no solar, less than $1500 invested in total. But in a "situation" I'm a DC guy, I dont need AC for much in an emergency. If my power goes out here, I dont even know for around an hour or so unless I look at the clock on my range/oven and it's dark. Many ways to skin a cat, and it doesn't need to cost $10k.
We have installed a 3600 watt Solar Generator, Interface and auto switch panel recharged by a pair of Solar panels. The Battery is a Tesla and it is mounted on a exterior wall near our domestic power provider Meter. Works like a charm. The domestic power is cut off at 5 PM and returns at 8 PM the following morning. Ours is capable of powering out 3.5 ton A/C unit too.
You can convert most any gas generator to LPG and avoid all the problems of a gas generator. Once converted, it's a lot easier to start and maintain. Then you have a reliable secondary back up for electrical power.
NO ng gas line in my sub where I just bought a house. I was going to get a genset installed and sink a 1000 gal NG tank, not LPG. I have an expensive grill that uses NG and there is no conversion kit for it (Thanks napoleon (sarcasm)) so I'm going down that route. I'd go LPG if not for the grill but cost-wise, one I get to where I'll be in costs, might as well just go with NG.
@@tc1uscg65 i actually picked my lot to build my house because it had natural gas and fiber internet. Its weird, even in kansas, alot of new subdivisions are all electric. What is stranger is that my block is the only block with NG, the rest in the sub division are all electric. A group of homeowners paid the developer to bring in ng, so my lot was ~$4k more, but I think it was worth the cost.
@@deanmiles3505 Actually some generators give you a choice. You can use gasoline but be sure to run the generator monthly and change the oil regularly.
Very nice set up! But... living in the Sierra Nevada, we can lose power for days at a time, usually weather related (2 weeks without power is our record). No sun for solar panels to recharge. I replaced my hard to pull-start generator with a nice 9kw gas generator with electric start. Like you, my wife being able to bring us back on line was a concern. I have a cheat sheet for her: 1) turn on generator gas 2) choke 3) push start button 4) turn off choke 5) switch to disconnect from public mains 6) slide interlock 7) switch to cut in generator. We're both in out 60's and pull-starting those high compression engines just doesn't cut it anymore. Probably spent less than $2000 for new electric start generator, transfer switch, interlock and electrical box to house it in. Probably less than one of the Ecoflow boxes? You have a great setup, but I would worry about ability to recharge. Just my 2cents
Excellent video - thank you. I’m thinking of buying and this sold me on it. I would love to have seen you charge them under load with the generator. That’s my biggest plus… having this and being able to charge it with my gas generator in an extended outage !
The problem with the 2 delta pro's that you are showing is the very limited amount of time you can use them before they need to be charged. With the generator, all you have to do is refuel it and it is good again. If you were without power for days, you might have issues with 2 delta pro's for the whole house even with recharging them via solar.
Power outages around here are most frequently associated with some type of storm. Clouds are frequent companions to those storms. And it's not uncommon for overcast conditions to last for days with bad storm systems. So much for the solar and the power if you are counting on batteries.
They can be recharged much quicker, even off a car through an inverter. Much quicker and easier startup process than a generator. I think I would put my connection inside, to keep them from having to be out in the cold.
Our family has solar power also. Our unit is a Bluetti AC500 and very similar to the Delta Pro. Both Bluetti and Ecoflo power units are incredible. Your argument is not valid. Country view acres has a back up gas powered generator and our homestead has a older gas powered generator also. If the weather is overcast and the solar panels become weak to generate power back to the solar batteries, NO PROBLEM! In fact, less than 2 hours the solar generator batteries can be recharged from the gas generator. Thus you have many hours of using the Delta pro. Quiet, does not emit fumes that are deadly and you can turn the gas generator off sense that noise machine is no longer needed. Once the sun comes out, you have UPS=Unlimited Power Supply! From solar! You will never have that with a noisy, fumey gas generator.
Solar panels are the missing link in your system. Add one more battery and several thousand watts of solar panels. Solar panels will charge the Delta Pro, while your house discharges it. Anyway, awesome video. Thanks for sharing.
Great simple review! I'm currently living off grid with solar!. I have a hysolis mps 4500. Great solar generator but not as versatile as these units. I'm loving it
Will it last three days ? We where out over three days! My propane generator worked just fine has electric start! Propane never goes bad I have a 500 gal tank! Runs everthing even the well!
Great video showing the possibility of running the whole house on lithium batteries. For way less than you paid, you can build a system that is about double your's. I spent just under $4K for such including a 240 volt inverter. I've got batteries, charge controller (Victron), bms (JBD), Sigineer 6000 watt inverter and 6 100 watt panels. I used EVE prismatic batteries in a 48 volt array. It took 16 wired in series to get 48 nominal volts (actual is 52.2 volts). Each prismatic battery is 3.2 volts. And since I purchased these the price has dropped so the price would be lower to build the same system. Each battery is rated at 235 watts. I have the charge controller and bms connected to wifi so I can monitor and adjust on my cell phone. And I don't have to roll anything around as I wired these in permanent. Just flip the switch and its on.
Read comments for this. The convenience fee for an all-in-one system is pretty high. Learning to make your own is not so difficult, and has the added value that if a component fails, the replacement is much cheaper.
Yes I initially had plans to do a system like yours. BUT, Your system is way involved, takes lots of math and skills. PLUS its not portable. I had the money, so I got the Delta Pros instead. Much easier.
Thanks for your video. Having a wood fireplace for winter is the big thing people need to go back to if they live in cold climates. This would be good to run just A/C and refrigerator in hot climates. So many on cpaps need some type of back up.
If you are the last one to get power back on you are going to need several days worth of battery backup. A small solar array may not be enough to run your house and charge the batteries for evening. Good thing you can heat your house with wood and have a generator for back up😉. EcoFlow has gone crazy giving units away to TH-cam channels lately. This must be the 5th or six one in as many weeks.
Totally agree, the push they’re trying to have on TH-cam isn’t working out, that’s was 6/7 hours max that’s nothing really in terms of power being out, especially a storm where’s the sun going to come from 😂
Thanks for this comprensive video. We get power outages every 3 or 4 years for about 5 hours each time, so this will be perfect. No smelly gas fumes, no bothering the neighbors with a loud generator, no having to test the generator each month or storing all kinds of fuel! All in all a no Brainer!
Check the valve clearances on your gas generator. Mine sat idle for 8 months and the valves got bound up. Pulled the plug and the valve cover, readjusted the lash, shot the stems with some Liquid Wrench, and rolled it over a few times to make sure the rockers were moving and get the lube into the valve guides. Then I readjusted the lash, installed the cover, replaced the plug, and it started on the second pull. Been starting it every 2 months to keep it loose.
We have had our gas generator for 15 years starts within 5 pulls or electric start about the same size as yours and we never turn the gas off or nothing and it has been amazing
@@Junglebtc I have found truing the gas off on my stuff make it way harder to start same with our tractors we leave it turned on because when we turn it off it’s a pain to start sometime our generator sits for 2 years before even being started
The mobility of this system is the selling point. Once you get some solar panels (prefer the foldable kind) you can take it with you anywhere and generate a lot of electricity without gasoline or propane. Endless potential.
@@JD-yx7be Not as fast as batteries and photovoltaic cells in solar panels. I have 40 year old Honda equipment that still runs quite well compared to the 15-20 year lifespan of good, industrial solar panels or the 5-10 year lifespan of battery systems. Heck, even cars now last at least 20 years. Both Toyota and Honda have demonstrated that, my brother's 1987 Corolla is still working. Model T engines weren't reliable in the first place so I don't know why we are talking about a car made over 100 years ago. Also, not to rain on your parade but early cars the chassis and bodies deteriorated well before the engine, that is why we don't see Model ts on the road, not because of the engine. Your false equivalence fallacy doesn't really work here. On the plus side of internal combustion engines, they are actually recyclable while it's really not financially feasible or really possible to recycle batteries or solar panels (photovoltaic cells).
In south Louisiana we have hurricanes. When they blow through, the power is usually out for a few days and during that time, the heat and humidity soars. An air conditioner is a must to be able to stay in the house, so a large whole home natural gas or propane generator is the only way to go.
Or solar and battery. Or just solar. The power is greatest when it's the hottest! Great for the hurricane scenario because the sun is out the next day.
@@ryankibler7973you really don't understand power consumption in the aftermath of a hurricane. Those batteries will be dead after one day and all the sunshine in the world won't help you
Problems with hurricanes and any natural gas or propane generators as well as battery packs is once you have unwanted water ingress, it defeats the purpose of having a generator and from what I have seen in the Southern states most houses typically turn into a mess of kindling, fragments of drywall and other scattered items. The same happens in a tornado. So what are you actually powering after an event like that? Also, after the tornado ripped through my town in Ontario, Canada we had to shut off our gas lines, further making home standby systems like Generac useless.
@@ryankibler7973 And then you go to your solar system and find out that it is useless because of water and other damage from said hurricane. These things have not been tested in a real scenario involving natural disasters like earth quakes or cyclonic storms. More or less it only works when the power goes out because of some work being done to the grid or a severe thunderstorm or ice storm.
Thank you for sharing the test. Great solution for a few hours of power and for people who have a bit spare money. If you need long runtimes, no good alternative to a good generator that regularly run to keep them fresh.
I have smaller version of ecoflow and i love the brand. Very good customer service. I asked once about solar panel cable and they sent me one for free. Those things are not cheap and they were not obligated to send me one but they did anyways. That's how you gain loyal customers. I also have Energizer power station. Its years behind ecoflow
In Florida you can count on a prolonged power outage at least once a year. The most cost efficient way to get by is by running your NG/LPG generator for a couple of hours at sunrise and again just before just before sunset along with your solar (if you have that) then off your battery/solar the rest of the time. Those Ecoflows charge off AC in about two hours.. No noisy generator at night. Keep all your light out, you don't want to paint a target on your front door and just run the fridges (I have 3) and the fans or if you're up north in winter get some propane heaters and have everyone in one/two rooms. You can stockpile propane for a long time without having it degrade on you. Our friend here is talking about dropping $10k+. You can get by with a $700-$800 dual fuel inverter generator and a $2,300 EG4 5 KWH 48V system.
You have to be careful, gas generators don't produce clean power & can damage sensitive electronics. Check with echo flow to see if it is possible before you try it. I have one but haven't tried or checked on it.
I could find better uses on my farm for $7000 than a bunch of batteries that need a gas generator to charge them up. But good for these guys on the sponsorship!
@@HoneyBadgerFarmthey don’t need a generator. Just need daylight. Or you could charge off your car. I have the eco River 2 so obviously I’m not powering a house. But let me tell ya this thing is awesome to travel with.
@@HoneyBadgerFarm I have both best of both worlds. I use the powerbank for short term outages, camping, or take it with me for small jobs were lugging my 150lb generator is a hassle
Great video. Most people understand that the amount of time you have power depends on the load. I have a GM10500ietc with propane for extended use, but have this set up ordered for minor power outages.
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Beautiful home! Clearly the generator has been neglected but we will leave that one alone. Since you already have LP at the site you should've converted your current generator to LP and you still can and have it as a stand by.
I'd move them inside and hook up to a transfer switch so they come on automatically. Nice system, the one problem is that since outages usually occur during crappy weather the solar won't be able to charge them. Very informative, looking forward to more vids on these.👍
@D M oh sorry! Not powering the whole house yet. Just have them attached to solar panels & then to certain appliances for now. Am going slow bcz of money and also want to see where innovation is taking this field; eg, a friend is a builder and he said that solar roof shingles are starting to be marketed now. I don't have a large property so I don't want to keep adding panels every time I add a battery so these shingles are intriguing.
Probably a good idea but the up front cost would be HUGE . I would have to see how solar would charge it but I would rather pull on my gas generator to save the expense .. Good video and im sure you will figure this out to work great for you .
I get everyone wants to go green but the fact they’re sent as freebees to promote against and old generator he’s never shown on the channel, it sounded like it run out of fuel, how do you solar charge in a storm and charge time/cost to charge against a gallon of fuel ? So many questions
I have this system and I got it on a black Friday special its great but I am also keeping my duel fuel electric start generator it has never had gas in it since I got it, it's been great, I got this system for my semi work trailer when I don't want to take the generator!
If you have old gas (30 days or more) left in the tank, the carburetor will need to be cleaned at the very least with spray carburetor cleaner. It will keep you from having to pull your arm out of the socket. The gas has ethanol, which gums up the carb. Good luck... Make sure you keep the portable generator at least 15 to 25 feet away from the dwelling. Carbon monoxide is odorless and will find its way into your house if placed as close as you had yours. Even if placed in an open garage, carbon monoxide can and will enter a home through even the smallest openings. Take care, Be safe.
Yep for 2 deltas that's 6k and that's just the power station by itself solar pannels gunna run you 1$ a watt if you're using foldables it'll run you 2$ or 3$ a watt
@@samuelruiz7377 They have gone done a few hundred dollars more recently. the best would be have both a gas generator and a power station. That is what i do but don't have 240v
I am intrigued but the disadvantage of solar/batteries is that you need enough battery to run systems overnight and panels to charge during the day BUT you either need more battery for daytime power or enough panels to recharge and to power the house (and enough sunshine). The gas tank on a gasoline generator can be refilled for continued use.
I have 14.4kW of Delta Pros (2 Pros w/ 2 Xtra Pro batteries) connected to the Smart Panel and my 9.6kW solar array. Quiet, simple, reliable, and portable if needed. In addition, I also have a Delta 1300 abs a Delta Mini for camping/backyard use or for powering my ICECO on the go or in my car. Additionally, I’ve got the EcoFlow 160w portable solar panel for off grid charging. Great products.
Ecoflow also has a generator that can run on gas or propane and connects seamlessly to these, with capability for automatic start to recharge on set threshold.
That could be a backup to our backup I suppose Evan. We already have a Generac 20k that comes on automatically (self-start) when the power goes out that runs on propane. But I suppose if we ever can't get propane it would be an option. I guess the question is how much is enough "insurance". It does look like a great option for many folks though. Especially if they don't have anything. Thanks for the information.
Congratulations on your power units those are sweet they ran a lot of stuff. Would love to have a set up like that. Ya'll have a beautiful place there. Thanks for sharing be safe have fun enjoy
There are pros to the solar route, but I still say a gas gen with electric start is the way to go! And I prefer two smaller gas generators that can pigg backed. And what do those solar puppies cost? you could easily have 8-10 grand spent. And what happens if the weather is crappy and there is not much sun for a few days. Love your channel!
"And what happens if the weather is crappy and there is not much sun for a few days." They still put out power, just not the full rated amount. I took my Vitoman 100 wasolar panel out and set it under the LED light in the kitchen, it was putting out at least some power just under that ceiling light, so any daylight will produce SOME power, they won't produce any at night of course but a small wind turbine could.
Thank you for showing us how the Delta Pro's work with powering your home. I think you have a nice setup with them and the solar recharging capability too. Also, if it comes down to it, you can run your gas generator to charge up the batteries if the solar panels don't get enough light one day.
That's a key point. For individuals, guaranteeing baseload usually requires gas or propane. Just saying. I have a 2400 WH lithium battery power station with solar panels, but I also have a dual fuel 4500 watt generator. Gotta be realistic.
REALLY GLAD I WATCHED your video... !! Was about to buy a gas powered generator for powering my small house during our (far too frequent) electric outages from the LOUSY utility company !
There is no way these two units would power all electric home. The water heater and three ton heat pump would max them out. Imagine running hot water heater, heat pump, electric dryer, electric stove, refrigerator, microwave and lights. Dreaming!
Its 3600 Watt/hr battery and presumably 3600 Watt inverter (30 amp at 120v) will allow for 1 hour at Max load or 2 hours at half load, 1800 Watt/hr For the approximately $2500 that a single unit costs he could have bought a Predator 9500w super quiet inverter generator that includes electric start. This unit supports 240v 30a (plus additional connects). Harbor Freight offers a 2 year full replacement warranty. Another good option is a generac whole house automatic generator connected to natural gas or a large propaine tank(s), I wouldn't get anything smaller than 500 gallon as you can only fill the tank to 80%. A 20+KWhr generator installed is probably less than 2 of these units, extra batteries and solar panels, except it would be capable of automatic transfer, and running everything in your house 24/7 for several weeks. Additionally when on backup power you ALWAYS want to minimize how much electricity is being used. With the 2 3600w systems, and the parallel cable (allows 2 units to run 240v) he is probably well over $5500. If he's going to buy solar panels that will start at $1000 and quickly go up. He would have been better off to get the solar panels, some good lithium batteries and a pair of line syncing inverters. These inverters are designed to run while connected to mains. This reduces how much electricity you are buying. And finally, you can call these units "solar generators" but they are neither solar nor a generator. They are portable power stations that accept limited solar input. You pay a huge premium to get portability in an enclosure. If you don't need portability, this is among the highest cost method to do what he wants.
This is definitly something that’s an awesome option. Just remember, your generator is not running like it should. Both of mine start one pull on choke, one of them has electric start. The gas generator will always outperform these and if kept in running order your wife could easily start. My wife is 4’10” and 90lbs and starts ours
@@jstar1000 You can also convert a rope pull starter to accept a input from an electric drill to make you own electric starter type generator. Be sure it's strong enough and make sure to recharge it as soon as your generator is going. LOL
Wow! I had B&S gas 5500klw portable generator (of course connected to key devices and a few lights.) through a 220 volt connect /manual switch box for 6 years. Yeah! My wife finally caved in to get a Natural gas 12 Klw B&S whole house generator. Power goes out generator kicks on. Love it love it. I might decide to push for solar on the roof. Nice video.
I just barely stumbled upon this video (and your channel) and I must say...that is one gorgeous property you have there. Beautiful house and garage setup!
They can run mostly anything, but not for long. There’s a few videos with people that have two Delta Pro’s and 4 expended batteries. They hook up to there whole house and they ran about 12 hours. Then they needed to charge up the next day. Remember, it’s not sunny every day. You need to come up with a plan B to charge the Delta Pros with out solar. I would keep that gas generator for back up.
This whole thing with rechargeable generators is a gimmick for people with thicker vallets and limited knowledge and experience. Nobody needs to run whole house in emergency situation. Only essentials which may extend some usage time but even then, this is all crap. Luckily, most people using those can get away with it if they live in areas that power is not affected for days long time.
Solar recharge each day isn't really a viable solution. Often, your power is out because of bad weather. But what I like about these units, is they can be configured to kick on the moment your power goes out, with a panel interface. Then, you could run your Generator to recharge the batteries if the outage runs more than a few hours. To solve the generator starting issues, get a Honda. Or plan to use a lot of starter fluid.
Great way to do backup but a lot more expensive than a single 7000 watt inverter generator. If you keep a generator like that up-to-date and you run it every two weeks or every month, to be sure it will start, it should be very reliable for house back up. And a lot of the newer generators come with an electric start, making it even easier. As nice as those Eco flows are, they wouldn't be able to power your house for more than a day or if even that. The solar panels wouldn't be able to charge it fast enough to run multiple days. And it would be very inefficient to try to charge them running your car. I think those Eco flows would be good if you know you're just going to have a very short power outage.
These battery pack jobs are great for low current items like lights or phones/laptops! Need to run a fuel generator for a whole house. Same with a camper. Try running AC on hot day in a camper with the battery units, it would be out in a few hours.
Very true. I have a 6000W battery system with 800W solar panels with a 3000W inverter and l can barely last 24 hrs in winter with emergency load only that means furnace, one freezer and one fridge and internet router and wifi.
I’ve been an electrician since 1978. Here’s my 2 cents … you are over selling this… This is A way …not THE way …eggs in a basket! Why don’t you do a video on maintaining your generator …because you are going to need it when power goes down for more than a day or so Just sayin…I’ve lived in Southern Florida most of my life,last 30 in Ft. Myers. My first hurricane was Andrew. My current 5500 watt pull start generator has been with us thru Charley,Irma and Ian Been there done that! KISS method…Do run it out of gas ,drain the gas tank (run non ethanol preferably) I occasionally pull the cord ,just to move oil in the motor and crank it up annually. A splash of fresh fuel run a couple of minutes. Ready for season Sorry guys I was lucky with Ian but a lot of others weren’t so I’m a little raw. Floods ,winter storms ,hurricanes are real not some zombie apocalypse!! be realistically ready……too long of a comment sorry I’m done
Thanks that a big help I have been leaning towards. The portable unit in stead of other way I can only read so much then need some pictures lol to set it up . were at about 600 month now Steve. Calif.
This is so awesome! I cannot wait for this series of videos. It just so happens we purchased an Ecoflow Delta 2 with solar panles to be a battery backup for shorter power outages - to handle the refrigerator/freezer. I do have a whole house gas generator (with a generator cutoff switch) to power the entire house. I plan on trying out this system to see what it can do this weekend!
Thanks for sharing Evan and Rebecca, anxious to see them hooked up to the Solar system to see how they will charge up on a total outage situation. Stay safe, Fred.
You know he got those for free, right? And if he really had to buy them for that big house - with a basement so you know he is in the cold winter place - he'd get a Generac Whole House NG for the same investment.
My first reaction would be to identify and correct the reason why your generator is hard to start. Just guessing but the carburetor probably needs to be cleaned. Also, you never mentioned how long the range of power outages last. Why is it that "Green technology always seems to begin with subsidies or a gift to disguise the actual costs?
Just a fantastic review. Clear, concise and such a kind and friendly personality. I am off grid and of course always interested in something like this. Thanks very much.
Great video thanks for putting this together! Can't wait to hear how the solar panels work for you. If they work out I'll be buying the same system just like to know if you can go off the grid with the solar panels and for how long.
I absolutely love this setup. I was doing a lot of research about 4 years ago, and this was one of only a few options to power your whole house at that time. It seemed pretty ideal. Now I believe that there are other options, and even options that allow you to do it with one unit. BUT the benefit with this unit now, is that they are a lot less expensive than they used to be. EcoFlow offers a Delta Pro 3 that is more advance, but the good thing is that it lowered the price for the original Delta Pro featured in this video, which they still offer. I'm just looking for back-up power in the case of outages, and the original should work perfectly for me. The biggest benefit in my opinion, is that they are quiet. A gas generator gets the job done, but it's so noisy, AND sucks down a lot of gas. Fine for a few days, but if the outage extends close to a week or beyond, it's hard to keep that much gas on hand. Solar is the ideal way to power these Delta units up, put that's a whole other level of cost and complication. Definitely worth it if it's your real power supply as in an off-grid cabin, but no so practical for me personally for infrequent power outages. My ideal plan would be to use a combination of gas generator, AND these Delta Pro units. At night I could use a pair of Deltas to power the house, mainly worried about powering refrigerator, freezer, minor lights, and a window AC unit for one of the rooms. I live in Florida, and outages are usually related to hurricanes, so dealing with heat and humidity is a real issue, so the option of a window AC is a real luxury to allow a good night sleep. Then during the day, I could turn on the gas generator and connect it to the house. One of the things that I would be using the generator power would be to recharge the Deltas, and of course refrigerator and freezer, and fans. The combination should allow me to make it for a week, and use A LOT less gas during that time ..... plus I get to sleep in silence. That combination is my ideal plan.
Agree with most counts about charging via solar. I bought a 1200w solar generator to run my home refrigerator and it did great. It keep all our food for about 13hours. At morning I went outside to plug in solar and overcast no sun. I was getting 13watts. Luckily power came back 6 hrs later. I think a gas/propane generator is the way to go. We didn't have sun for about 4days. It's not practical to use solar generator for long power outages. Unless your battery bank is massive to run for days.
Thanks very much for this review. It's been extremely helpful. Your testing was great, real-world stuff, and to-the-point. Subscribed and looking forward to future stuff.
If you’re going to run your house with the same load as the generator can supply (5,500 watts), you’re going to get less than an hour and a half out of those two batteries. Your generator will run a lot longer and can be refueled in a few minutes. If you’re worried about being the last to get your power back, your batteries aren’t worth much. You’d be better off getting your generator tuned up or replacing it. Longer power, less cost.
I wouldn’t trust a battery during snow seasons. Batteries are great for a few hours but when you don’t have no sun or electricity then it’s a light out for you. Gas generator is the best option no matter what.
I have one of these 3600 units, We have an occasional short term (a few hours) outages. We have used it to cook dinner on an induction cooktop and run a few led lights. The run time is only a few hours and so not worth it for outages lasting for a 1/2 a day or more. They are also very expensive. Recommend a propane, gas or diesel generator for more than a few hour outages.
Great info. I had a gasoline 14,000 watt generator but having arthritis in one hand, the main breaker switch just couldn’t be flipped. It was way too hard for my hand. I’m looking at a 24kw Generac
Looks cool Evan, I like it. I have to say that could be what a person needs, to keep it quiet during an outage. That said, they are a little expensive for those on a fixed or low income, but if you can afford them, then those might be the ticket. Enjoyed this one, thanks, hope you all have a great weekend.
6200.00 dollars for both to run your house............ Now if you had a Generac whole house generator to power everything 24 hours 7 days a week for 14700 Kw for 4700.00 with automatic change over so you would not have to be home to power up your house PRICELESS......................
Thank you!!!! And he has propane at the house. I have an 12kw whole house generator and it’s awesome. Trouble free, it does maintenance starts once a month lights are off for maybe 2 mins when it changes over.
Great video. Thank you. For home owners that don't care to run 240V appliances during a powed outage. I suppose you could have just one of those units connected to appropriate 110V branch circuits in your main circuit box through a transfer switch. I currently do that with a battery bank and inverter so I can run my CPAC machine, a small refrigerator and some lights during a power outage.
This was a nice demo. I’m trying to move away from my gas powered generator and I like the convenience of this approach. Pricey but easy and flexible. You paired two pros but I think a battery can be used with one pro and maybe save a few dollars.
I run a delta pro 14,400wats set up with the smart generators and 3200watts of solar panels with the smart home panel in 120 mode. I only run the 120 side of the house but I run it all the Time to reduce our bill. The generators very seldom kick on but they are great backups. In a grid down situation I have a portable 14k btu AC that we run to keep our bedroom cool at night. I’ve been waiting on a good plug and play system.
Thanks for the great video. I noticed you have batteries plugged in outside. I read that cold weather really affects lithium batteries in terms of reducing capacity and even causing damage.
Another commercial for a battery backup unit. Basically they are all the same and most TH-camrs have been given one and most viewer are getting sick of seeing all the same type of videos this is my second today oh good can’t wait.
Ima doing the same, sold 2 gas generators, after the last hurricane in fla and 9 days NO power, people spent $100 a day in gas or propane, for the cost of the eco flow, solar panels, etc., it will save u in the long run, no more crappy carbs, non working GFI's, gas, oil changes every 48 hours when in use for days in a row, cool off times, and people still lost their fridge & frozen freezer food, no power, no credit cards, everything was cash only, hurricane knocked down trees so every road was blocked, nothing open, so no gas, propane to be had, Ima sick of gas/propane generators, the whole house ones cost people double the portable generators in propane, unless your filthy rich, solar battery generators r the way to go, plus u dont have to wait til the storms over, watch for it be stolen, its quiet, in the house, no noise, doesnt attract thieves, etc., Ima right there with ya buddy!
I have a 25 year old Briggs and Stratton generator that starts on the second pull after I open the petcock. I've repaired and replaced things over the years, but as long as I maintain it, it fire's right up.
Interesting. Just found your channel. I recently purchased a Bluetti generator system because I live rurally in central Illinois and we have frequent blackouts. I still have my backup gas generator because it’s not sunny all the time. I think I’d rather have the solar generator indoors out of the weather. Funny, I lived in southern Illinois for 6 years. Now I’m planning and looking to leave Illinois. I’ve had enough.
I have the solar generators inside and hooked to the interlock. I also have solar ran inside to them. So they are set up pretty good. I completely understand leaving Illinois.
I really hate to say this..... but, battery backups are not so good in cold or wet weather conditions. The cold, especially when its below freezing, battery life is severely reduced. (Just ask tesla users) and if they get wet, they have a tendency to catch fire or explode. Diesel or propane are better choices for power in an emergency situation. They have easier "refuel" ability, and depending on the size of the generator, you can power your whole house on a 15-20kWh system like it was on the normal grid. Batteries only have a 5-10 year max life, and solar is only good for 15-20 years before you have to do an entire system replacement. They are great choices if you are only worried about power outages of a couple hours, and the noise reduction is amazing as well. But from personal experience, back in 2000, the winter storm we had in NC, we were without grid power for 5 weeks. If we didnt have our propane stove, heater, and generator, it could have been a lot worse. But i do like to be proven wrong. So i look forward to the future videos.
@82ndpara21 that part has no bearing on the product. Im all for alternative power solutions. And honestly, i do see the benefits of having a system like this, and the one he wants to create. But thats the warfighter in me lol (noise pollution can get people killed in certain situations) But in a non-tactical emergency event, me personally, i would want something more reliable. If i need 6 hours of power, i dont want the cold or water to limit my ability to have it. Regardless of noise. (Even fuel based generators have push button start now)
While I'm an EcoFlow fan and have one of their smaller units, you really do have to consider cost-effectiveness. You're up to $7500+ for half a day's power here. If you add enough solar to recharge these units fully every day, you're probably looking at another $7500+ for the solar panels, controllers and wiring. Yes, your 5500 Watt gas genny is unreliable. But it's around $750... not $7500. And with several gas cans you can run for days. If you get a dual fuel genny and a bunch of 20lb propane tanks your reliability and ease of use will go way up. Still for under $1,000. Just saying...
great point. we had several days of hot rainy weather. solar was practically useless so, looking at charging the batteries. (although that just reduces their life cycle)
I got paid to tell you all this nonsense about this batteries, yet again. We will all disconnect from the power grid and connect to a pack of AAA batteries because batteries and GENERATOR are the same thing, And this fascinating batteries can "generate" electricity out of thin air even with imaginary solar panels in winter, HEH. Followed for years, now.........Unsubed
We are planning to install a small solar system this year. The EcoFlow will be used to power our house several different ways, and help use determine our final solar system size for power and battery storage. So there will several videos to come.
Hello. I was just going to ask ... could you run your house off of solar charging and both power banks? But looks like you have that question already in hand. Great work. Stay safe 🏴
I will be watching like always
I suggest you have a longer cord so you can plug it up you ass when the sun doesn't shine.
@@philipwandzilak4057 Philip what an attitude, what crawled up your
Move that plug inside and you would not have to go outside in a bad weather no power situation,
Good job,
Bet they are not cheap,
I'd suggest installing a generator plug in the house, now with no emissions you can keep your Delta pros inside and out if the weather to power your main panel.
Yes is the plan. I already have another generator inlet, and the EcoFlows will be inside the basement in the next video.
Additionally the batteries will not work as well outdoors in the cold.
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 Yessir!
But he could also add the duel fuel smart generator that will automatically power on to charge the batteries when they get low. That’s what I would do and continue using the outdoor plug.
@@jet1tej repurposed plug? Good idea. I’m sure the wiring isn’t too bad if you understand electricity.
The missing piece here is that those 2 Delta Pros cost nearly as much as an automatic whole home generator, which with a propane tank will run your house for days. Even with the Delta Pros and solar panels, if you get a few cloudy days, you may not have power. Make sure you keep that Generac tip top.
Like most electric things, they are more expensive and have less practicality and run time. But is makes the woke sheep "feel good". While the big companies get you to spend more for less performance....
Totally Agree 👍
Right? Nice toy but it definitely has its cons... Think it's better if you with natural gas or propane generator, more powerful, auto start and off when energy is back, not to much maintenance.
@@santiagosalcedo7653 Yeah, I'm running a whole house standby generator on LP with a ATS. I have a 500 gallon tank on site and the unit outputs 22kW. On normal consumption when the LP tank is full it can power my house for about 16 days.
@@tekcomputers How much to fill that baby up?
Before I converted to my Generac 22kw, I had a Briggs and Stratton 5500 for about 10-15 years. I took care of it, ran the gas out of the carburetor every time, used fuel stabilizer and about 3 or 4 time per year, I would pull it out and run it for about 10 minutes. It "always" started on the first pull. The difficulty starting this one may be theatrical license.
I have one that I have abused for years. The SAME generator he struggled to start. Never takes more than a couple of cranks.
Yeah, like infomercials for products that aren't much better or could be worse than the products they are struggling with.
@@nealmcbaggins127 I have a generator that apparently had a recall and I pull it out from time to time to crank start it. I change the stabilized gas every six months and it still cranks over in at lest three pulls. If you maintain your machines, they will run for a long time, unless it's Briggs and Stratton powered.
It is not, I assure you ,my poor husband had the same trouble , once we had it running it was ok . He tried to. I tried .neighbors were trying to.
Yep ..I have a 6 year old Generac that starts on the first pull every time. He’s either faking it or didn’t do everything right when he put it away .
We have used the th-cam.com/users/postUgkxOTeIs0vv4_9B5hsmnLsk9r930uDQLu_Y for probably 30 hours with our camper and it’s been great! The noise level is really only noticeable when running the AC and other appliances like the microwave, hair dryer, or coffee pot. It’s not huge like other ones and it has wheels so even at 90lbs, I can move it!
I have a new cheap Harbor Freight $300 3300w generator for four years. Finally used it twice two weeks apart about 3 months ago. First time from 8pm to 4 am. Second time 6pm to 11pm. I ran a 50 foot extension cord to my house and a 50 foot to one of my neighbors and a 100 foot to the other neighbor. It kept their refrigerators running and led lights and I had a refrigerator, freezer modem phone, 5 led lights , laptop, and 2 phone chargers on it. The generator started on the second pull. Our electricity is usually out for only 2 or 3 hours at most. Most times it is only minutes before it comes back on. But I do keep two five gallon can of gas stored to meet any further outages.
good for you....but this video is about battery generators
I am a Delta Pro owner! I am not affiliated or anything but i am soooooo excited you got one! They may be pricey to start with the initial investment and some may say you should have purchased a whole house generator for that price but what they fail to realize it the stealth and more importantly the mobility. If your parents or immediate families power goes down and not your you can move this power instantly. You can take it to the barn you can take it on vacation ect. You will love it! I am so excited you and your wife!
And I could just use a battery, with an adapter. Saving me lots of money.
Not to mention the tax credit you can get for them. What is it? 30%
You took the words right out of my mouth. The mobility of these systems is amazing. I have foldable solar panels (1400 watts) and I can take my mobile power system to my cabin and to my house (as backup) easily.
@@Legendary_UA Anything that requires a tax credit should raise a red flag
Thing is those units cost $5,699 each (plus tax). So this set up is $11,398 (plus tax)!!!
These are nice. But if I were shelling out that kind of money, I'd buy a natural gas/propane standby generator.
Those are wicked expensive. Two of those power stations put you in the realm of a decent standby power generator. One that can keep running as long as you have enough fuel.
Having to buy TWO to power all the stuff two freezers, big fridge, all those lights, water heater and furnace controls, ceiling fan, microwave etc etc is a real setback! far batter to isolate things so you only NEED one unit to power some basics instead of the entire 5kw house demand!
I have a 1100 sq ft house and the Vitoman Jump 1,000 unit, it will power my normal sized single door fridge, my usually used LED lights, computer/monitor/modem, the electric part of my gas furnace or window A/C, and water softener for a long time- that's all the basics I NEED to power. I have gas water heater with a pilot light, gas cook stove, city water- so no worry about powering a well pump to get water, so the single Vitoman 1000 is the perfect solution for me. I DO have a new powermate 2000i sine wave inverter generator as well, to use as a last option for an extended outage to charge the Vitoman in less than an hour
And if maintained, isn't as hard to start as this fellow shows. I think he forgot to turn on the fuel and ignition or he forgot to set the choke to closed. He may also didn't drain the carburetor so now it's gummed up from bad fuel, with or without ethanol as it is the gasoline itself that has these issues. Gasoline engines are fairly simple devices these days. Batteries, especially large ones like EcoFlow have a tendency to run away when a problem comes and basically turn into a large home fire starter. Generators are less likely to do this because if the fuel is full and sealed in the tank , it won't burn. You need the right amount of oxidizer to spark a fire.
Last week my whole house generac with 1000gal buried propane tank ran 25 hrs never lost a/c or WiFi. Didn’t have any idea how long it might be
lol. ask the Helene victims how much fuel they were able to get. and if they were, how outrageously expensive it was.
anyway....only a battery power station like these are able to use solar for complete independence on outside fuel sources that may be unavailable when a disaster hits. better yet, get an EV like a Ford lightning so you can use it's enormous battery to power your house.
This might be the best video on this subject I have seen...well done
I have two Delta Pros, two extra batteries, and a double voltage hub. I have the generator inlet outside feeding a transfer switch inside. I wanted to keep the Delta Pros inside and didn't want to have to run a cable outside, so I added another generator inlet with a switch (Reliance Controls CSR302 - minor rewiring required) inside, so I could select either the Delta Pros or the Generator. This configuration works very well. Unfortunately, I have electric heat, so I can't run that with the DPs, but I also have a woodstove with a blower and that works well. I can also run my well pump, 2 freezers, one refrigerator, some aquarium heaters and various other lights and devices. One thing to be aware of is that although they advertise 3600w capacity, the inverter will take up to 10% of that, so it is closer to 3200w using the inverter. The DPs work well, but they are expensive. I have never gotten the app to work well. I was able to pick up mine as part of the Kickstarter campaign, so I got a better price. I don't have gas or propane on my property, but if I did, I would probably have gone with a whole house generator. There are going to be times when you will have to run the generator, so please pick up one with electric start. I would suggest an inverter so you can run any electronic equipment. I am using the Champion Power Equipment 100520. A word of warning with the DPs - If you have them plugged in while you are using them for backup, such as they are feeding themselves, they will burn up. Unless you are using them as a pseuo-UPS, it's best to unplug them once they are charged.
This is great for short outages like a few hours. In a serious ice or snowstorm where crews cannot get you restored for a couple of days, you're going to need a fossil-fuel generator. I use a 4kw Generac that I converted to natural gas and it starts quickly and runs for the duration, back-feeding the 240 v breaker panel. I disconnect the main breaker, the electric water heater, dryer, electric oven and dual-fuel heat pump (don't want to hit the heat pump electronics with the raw non-sine wave output of the generator) during the outages. We then heat with natural gas fireplace logs in the main living area and a natural gas space heater in the basement. The 50 gallon electric water heater keeps warm water for 1 to 2 days and that's why that we did not opt for a tankless gas water heater. With natural gas prices doubling here and almost quadrupling in some areas, the tankless approach is less justifiable. Each homeowner's situation is different. This is what works for us.
Don't forget those are 3.5k each for delta pros .
What happens when you run out of natural gas? Or if the Generac fails outside in the elements during the serious ice storm? It would be nice to have a backup option right? That's what a solar generator will do for you. It's great to have options and if you have a Generac and a solar generator you are gold during any emergency situation. An Ecoflow is just another tool in the tool box. I personally like to have lots of tools my tool box.
@@Speed00007 some of us can't have a whole house generator and then over $7000 worth of lithiums batteries sitting around.
@@Speed00007 If your on CNG, you are probably on public CNG not a tank. so you will never run out. But if it is a tank, then have it refilled when it hits 30%. I do think having a Batter Backup is a good option however. But there are far less expensive options than these things.
@@rb2530 You are saying that if I'm on a CNG I will never run out of gas? If the pipeline is damaged or the gas company decides to shut off the gas I will never run out right? Relying on a corporation for 100% of my energy needs is such a smart idea!
I really appreciate your diligence here. I’ve taken the first step to getting whole home backup power. Your video solidified what I intended to do. Thank you
i have a natural gas stand-by generator with a transfer switch that turns on automatically,it powers the whole hose and will run longer than these and it was less than one of those units
My power was just out for 5 days, on for 2, off for 8. I'll keep my generators, thanks. If you can't start a motor, you should definitely have a battery generator.
I've gotten estimates for a stand by generator. Generator is only 4-5k. Installation is $12k.
@@DM-fp8uw 2 of these units, plus enough solar to keep them charged, plus a gas generator for when you don't have enough sun to charge, would cost way more than the $16-$17k you were quoted for that system.
@@MrBeerfix I'm more on the buy a 9000w inverter generator for $2500 side.
@@DM-fp8uw I hear that. I play around with solar and batteries, built my own, almost comparable system on the cheap. I can recharge my battery bank in around 2 hrs with a 3500w inverter gene, and run for a day or two even with no solar, less than $1500 invested in total. But in a "situation" I'm a DC guy, I dont need AC for much in an emergency. If my power goes out here, I dont even know for around an hour or so unless I look at the clock on my range/oven and it's dark. Many ways to skin a cat, and it doesn't need to cost $10k.
We have installed a 3600 watt Solar Generator, Interface and auto switch panel recharged by a pair of Solar panels. The Battery is a Tesla and it is mounted on a exterior wall near our domestic power provider Meter. Works like a charm. The domestic power is cut off at 5 PM and returns at 8 PM the following morning. Ours is capable of powering out 3.5 ton A/C unit too.
You can convert most any gas generator to LPG and avoid all the problems of a gas generator. Once converted, it's a lot easier to start and maintain. Then you have a reliable secondary back up for electrical power.
you can, but it also takes away roughly 20 percent of the generators power
NO ng gas line in my sub where I just bought a house. I was going to get a genset installed and sink a 1000 gal NG tank, not LPG. I have an expensive grill that uses NG and there is no conversion kit for it (Thanks napoleon (sarcasm)) so I'm going down that route. I'd go LPG if not for the grill but cost-wise, one I get to where I'll be in costs, might as well just go with NG.
@@tc1uscg65 i actually picked my lot to build my house because it had natural gas and fiber internet. Its weird, even in kansas, alot of new subdivisions are all electric. What is stranger is that my block is the only block with NG, the rest in the sub division are all electric. A group of homeowners paid the developer to bring in ng, so my lot was ~$4k more, but I think it was worth the cost.
Who has the gasoline to LP conversion kits?
@@deanmiles3505 Actually some generators give you a choice. You can use gasoline but be sure to run the generator monthly and change the oil regularly.
Very nice set up! But... living in the Sierra Nevada, we can lose power for days at a time, usually weather related (2 weeks without power is our record). No sun for solar panels to recharge. I replaced my hard to pull-start generator with a nice 9kw gas generator with electric start. Like you, my wife being able to bring us back on line was a concern. I have a cheat sheet for her: 1) turn on generator gas 2) choke 3) push start button 4) turn off choke 5) switch to disconnect from public mains 6) slide interlock 7) switch to cut in generator. We're both in out 60's and pull-starting those high compression engines just doesn't cut it anymore. Probably spent less than $2000 for new electric start generator, transfer switch, interlock and electrical box to house it in. Probably less than one of the Ecoflow boxes? You have a great setup, but I would worry about ability to recharge. Just my 2cents
Excellent video - thank you. I’m thinking of buying and this sold me on it. I would love to have seen you charge them under load with the generator. That’s my biggest plus… having this and being able to charge it with my gas generator in an extended outage !
The problem with the 2 delta pro's that you are showing is the very limited amount of time you can use them before they need to be charged. With the generator, all you have to do is refuel it and it is good again. If you were without power for days, you might have issues with 2 delta pro's for the whole house even with recharging them via solar.
Power outages around here are most frequently associated with some type of storm. Clouds are frequent companions to those storms. And it's not uncommon for overcast conditions to last for days with bad storm systems. So much for the solar and the power if you are counting on batteries.
They can be recharged much quicker, even off a car through an inverter. Much quicker and easier startup process than a generator. I think I would put my connection inside, to keep them from having to be out in the cold.
He said he was going to hook up solar to them, problem solved
@@jjohnson2553 you know there's always that back up generator which wouldn't have to run that long to recharge batteries
Our family has solar power also. Our unit is a Bluetti AC500 and very similar to the Delta Pro. Both Bluetti and Ecoflo power units are incredible. Your argument is not valid. Country view acres has a back up gas powered generator and our homestead has a older gas powered generator also. If the weather is overcast and the solar panels become weak to generate power back to the solar batteries, NO PROBLEM! In fact, less than 2 hours the solar generator batteries can be recharged from the gas generator. Thus you have many hours of using the Delta pro. Quiet, does not emit fumes that are deadly and you can turn the gas generator off sense that noise machine is no longer needed. Once the sun comes out, you have UPS=Unlimited Power Supply! From solar! You will never have that with a noisy, fumey gas generator.
Solar panels are the missing link in your system. Add one more battery and several thousand watts of solar panels. Solar panels will charge the Delta Pro, while your house discharges it.
Anyway, awesome video. Thanks for sharing.
Great simple review! I'm currently living off grid with solar!. I have a hysolis mps 4500. Great solar generator but not as versatile as these units. I'm loving it
Will it last three days ? We where out over three days! My propane generator worked just fine has electric start!
Propane never goes bad I have a 500 gal tank! Runs everthing even the well!
Great video showing the possibility of running the whole house on lithium batteries. For way less than you paid, you can build a system that is about double your's. I spent just under $4K for such including a 240 volt inverter. I've got batteries, charge controller (Victron), bms (JBD), Sigineer 6000 watt inverter and 6 100 watt panels. I used EVE prismatic batteries in a 48 volt array. It took 16 wired in series to get 48 nominal volts (actual is 52.2 volts). Each prismatic battery is 3.2 volts. And since I purchased these the price has dropped so the price would be lower to build the same system. Each battery is rated at 235 watts. I have the charge controller and bms connected to wifi so I can monitor and adjust on my cell phone. And I don't have to roll anything around as I wired these in permanent. Just flip the switch and its on.
Read comments for this. The convenience fee for an all-in-one system is pretty high. Learning to make your own is not so difficult, and has the added value that if a component fails, the replacement is much cheaper.
Yes I initially had plans to do a system like yours. BUT, Your system is way involved, takes lots of math and skills. PLUS its not portable. I had the money, so I got the Delta Pros instead. Much easier.
Each CELL is 3.2 volts. Wired together, the cells form a BATTERY.
Keep the generator to power up the units when weather is bad!
Thanks for your video.
Having a wood fireplace for winter is the big thing people need to go back to if they live in cold climates. This would be good to run just A/C and refrigerator in hot climates.
So many on cpaps need some type of back up.
C paps are 12 volts... think of how easy it would be to just figure out where to put the car battery. Leave it outside by your bedroom window.
If you are the last one to get power back on you are going to need several days worth of battery backup. A small solar array may not be enough to run your house and charge the batteries for evening. Good thing you can heat your house with wood and have a generator for back up😉.
EcoFlow has gone crazy giving units away to TH-cam channels lately. This must be the 5th or six one in as many weeks.
Totally agree, the push they’re trying to have on TH-cam isn’t working out, that’s was 6/7 hours max that’s nothing really in terms of power being out, especially a storm where’s the sun going to come from 😂
@@dondumo3152 - or get the 3 fuel generator. Couple LP tanks, or hard connect to Natural Gas line saves any problems !
just here to say "silence is golden". Always been my knock on gas generators.
Thanks for this comprensive video. We get power outages every 3 or 4 years for about 5 hours each time, so this will be perfect. No smelly gas fumes, no bothering the neighbors with a loud generator, no having to test the generator each month or storing all kinds of fuel! All in all a no Brainer!
Great video. You are very fortunate to have such useful devices.
Check the valve clearances on your gas generator. Mine sat idle for 8 months and the valves got bound up.
Pulled the plug and the valve cover, readjusted the lash, shot the stems with some Liquid Wrench, and rolled it over a few times to make sure the rockers were moving and get the lube into the valve guides.
Then I readjusted the lash, installed the cover, replaced the plug, and it started on the second pull. Been starting it every 2 months to keep it loose.
We have had our gas generator for 15 years starts within 5 pulls or electric start about the same size as yours and we never turn the gas off or nothing and it has been amazing
What do you mean you never turn the gas off as in you use your gas generator for constant domestic supply ?
@@Junglebtc I have found truing the gas off on my stuff make it way harder to start same with our tractors we leave it turned on because when we turn it off it’s a pain to start sometime our generator sits for 2 years before even being started
@@Junglebtc the fuel shut off, probably.
The mobility of this system is the selling point. Once you get some solar panels (prefer the foldable kind) you can take it with you anywhere and generate a lot of electricity without gasoline or propane. Endless potential.
You still need the sun & those panels deteriorate. Several cloudy days or a bad panel and your screwed.
Don't get folding type they're usually double to 3x the price and aren't weatherproof
It’s not endless. It ends on a cloud day/week.
@@wandameadows5736 gas engines deteriorate also or else far more Model Ts would still be on the road. Even a toaster deteriorates
@@JD-yx7be Not as fast as batteries and photovoltaic cells in solar panels. I have 40 year old Honda equipment that still runs quite well compared to the 15-20 year lifespan of good, industrial solar panels or the 5-10 year lifespan of battery systems. Heck, even cars now last at least 20 years. Both Toyota and Honda have demonstrated that, my brother's 1987 Corolla is still working. Model T engines weren't reliable in the first place so I don't know why we are talking about a car made over 100 years ago. Also, not to rain on your parade but early cars the chassis and bodies deteriorated well before the engine, that is why we don't see Model ts on the road, not because of the engine. Your false equivalence fallacy doesn't really work here. On the plus side of internal combustion engines, they are actually recyclable while it's really not financially feasible or really possible to recycle batteries or solar panels (photovoltaic cells).
In south Louisiana we have hurricanes. When they blow through, the power is usually out for a few days and during that time, the heat and humidity soars. An air conditioner is a must to be able to stay in the house, so a large whole home natural gas or propane generator is the only way to go.
Or solar and battery. Or just solar. The power is greatest when it's the hottest! Great for the hurricane scenario because the sun is out the next day.
Ditto, I live in Florida. What portable generator do you have? Home Depot was no help at all.
@@ryankibler7973you really don't understand power consumption in the aftermath of a hurricane. Those batteries will be dead after one day and all the sunshine in the world won't help you
Problems with hurricanes and any natural gas or propane generators as well as battery packs is once you have unwanted water ingress, it defeats the purpose of having a generator and from what I have seen in the Southern states most houses typically turn into a mess of kindling, fragments of drywall and other scattered items. The same happens in a tornado. So what are you actually powering after an event like that? Also, after the tornado ripped through my town in Ontario, Canada we had to shut off our gas lines, further making home standby systems like Generac useless.
@@ryankibler7973 And then you go to your solar system and find out that it is useless because of water and other damage from said hurricane. These things have not been tested in a real scenario involving natural disasters like earth quakes or cyclonic storms. More or less it only works when the power goes out because of some work being done to the grid or a severe thunderstorm or ice storm.
Thank you for sharing the test. Great solution for a few hours of power and for people who have a bit spare money. If you need long runtimes, no good alternative to a good generator that regularly run to keep them fresh.
I have smaller version of ecoflow and i love the brand. Very good customer service. I asked once about solar panel cable and they sent me one for free. Those things are not cheap and they were not obligated to send me one but they did anyways. That's how you gain loyal customers.
I also have Energizer power station. Its years behind ecoflow
In Florida you can count on a prolonged power outage at least once a year. The most cost efficient way to get by is by running your NG/LPG generator for a couple of hours at sunrise and again just before just before sunset along with your solar (if you have that) then off your battery/solar the rest of the time. Those Ecoflows charge off AC in about two hours.. No noisy generator at night. Keep all your light out, you don't want to paint a target on your front door and just run the fridges (I have 3) and the fans or if you're up north in winter get some propane heaters and have everyone in one/two rooms. You can stockpile propane for a long time without having it degrade on you. Our friend here is talking about dropping $10k+. You can get by with a $700-$800 dual fuel inverter generator and a $2,300 EG4 5 KWH 48V system.
I always wondered if solar could power the house in an outage, oe at least the refrigerator and a few lights. Interesting experiment.
You could always use your gas generator to charge up your Delta Pro's if they need to be charged.
That's a nice setup.
You have to be careful, gas generators don't produce clean power & can damage sensitive electronics. Check with echo flow to see if it is possible before you try it. I have one but haven't tried or checked on it.
@@John-li6tn Yes. Use pure sign wave inverter gas generators to power sensitive electronics and equipment.
I could find better uses on my farm for $7000 than a bunch of batteries that need a gas generator to charge them up. But good for these guys on the sponsorship!
@@HoneyBadgerFarmthey don’t need a generator. Just need daylight. Or you could charge off your car. I have the eco River 2 so obviously I’m not powering a house. But let me tell ya this thing is awesome to travel with.
@@HoneyBadgerFarm I have both best of both worlds. I use the powerbank for short term outages, camping, or take it with me for small jobs were lugging my 150lb generator is a hassle
Great video. Most people understand that the amount of time you have power depends on the load. I have a GM10500ietc with propane for extended use, but have this set up ordered for minor power outages.
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Beautiful home!
Clearly the generator has been neglected but we will leave that one alone. Since you already have LP at the site you should've converted your current generator to LP and you still can and have it as a stand by.
I'd move them inside and hook up to a transfer switch so they come on automatically. Nice system, the one problem is that since outages usually occur during crappy weather the solar won't be able to charge them. Very informative, looking forward to more vids on these.👍
Yes, they will be installed in the basement .
Yes but with the solar setup after the storm is over it can take some time for power to be restored
I have two gas/propane dual generators to use to charge the Delta pros when solar panels won't work bcz of the weather.
@@Peace2all4vr So what's powering the house while they are charging?
@D M oh sorry! Not powering the whole house yet. Just have them attached to solar panels & then to certain appliances for now. Am going slow bcz of money and also want to see where innovation is taking this field; eg, a friend is a builder and he said that solar roof shingles are starting to be marketed now. I don't have a large property so I don't want to keep adding panels every time I add a battery so these shingles are intriguing.
Probably a good idea but the up front cost would be HUGE . I would have to see how solar would charge it but I would rather pull on my gas generator to save the expense .. Good video and im sure you will figure this out to work great for you .
I get everyone wants to go green but the fact they’re sent as freebees to promote against and old generator he’s never shown on the channel, it sounded like it run out of fuel, how do you solar charge in a storm and charge time/cost to charge against a gallon of fuel ? So many questions
I have this system and I got it on a black Friday special its great but I am also keeping my duel fuel electric start generator it has never had gas in it since I got it, it's been great, I got this system for my semi work trailer when I don't want to take the generator!
If you have old gas (30 days or more) left in the tank, the carburetor will need to be cleaned at the very least with spray carburetor cleaner. It will keep you from having to pull your arm out of the socket. The gas has ethanol, which gums up the carb.
Good luck...
Make sure you keep the portable generator at least 15 to 25 feet away from the dwelling. Carbon monoxide is odorless and will find its way into your house if placed as close as you had yours. Even if placed in an open garage, carbon monoxide can and will enter a home through even the smallest openings.
Take care,
Be safe.
Yep for 2 deltas that's 6k and that's just the power station by itself solar pannels gunna run you 1$ a watt if you're using foldables it'll run you 2$ or 3$ a watt
@@samuelruiz7377 They have gone done a few hundred dollars more recently. the best would be have both a gas generator and a power station. That is what i do but don't have 240v
I am intrigued but the disadvantage of solar/batteries is that you need enough battery to run systems overnight and panels to charge during the day BUT you either need more battery for daytime power or enough panels to recharge and to power the house (and enough sunshine). The gas tank on a gasoline generator can be refilled for continued use.
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I have 14.4kW of Delta Pros (2 Pros w/ 2 Xtra Pro batteries) connected to the Smart Panel and my 9.6kW solar array. Quiet, simple, reliable, and portable if needed.
In addition, I also have a Delta 1300 abs a Delta Mini for camping/backyard use or for powering my ICECO on the go or in my car. Additionally, I’ve got the EcoFlow 160w portable solar panel for off grid charging. Great products.
So 10k worth of items for what a lp propane 800 dollar generator can do?!? Ouch
@@armando7257 I have a generator, a power station, and a 1000w car inverter. It is best to have multiple redundancies.
Ecoflow also has a generator that can run on gas or propane and connects seamlessly to these, with capability for automatic start to recharge on set threshold.
True, but the problem is the power cord is short and you can't use an extension cord. Most people store the power station(s) inside.
That could be a backup to our backup I suppose Evan. We already have a Generac 20k that comes on automatically (self-start) when the power goes out that runs on propane. But I suppose if we ever can't get propane it would be an option. I guess the question is how much is enough "insurance". It does look like a great option for many folks though. Especially if they don't have anything. Thanks for the information.
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Congratulations on your power units those are sweet they ran a lot of stuff. Would love to have a set up like that. Ya'll have a beautiful place there. Thanks for sharing be safe have fun enjoy
There are pros to the solar route, but I still say a gas gen with electric start is the way to go! And I prefer two smaller gas generators that can pigg backed. And what do those solar puppies cost? you could easily have 8-10 grand spent. And what happens if the weather is crappy and there is not much sun for a few days. Love your channel!
"And what happens if the weather is crappy and there is not much sun for a few days."
They still put out power, just not the full rated amount. I took my Vitoman 100 wasolar panel out and set it under the LED light in the kitchen, it was putting out at least some power just under that ceiling light, so any daylight will produce SOME power, they won't produce any at night of course but a small wind turbine could.
What happens to you when you can't get access to gas???
huge price drop since this video dropped. They are in the $5-6k range for this setup. It is best to have both
Thank you for showing us how the Delta Pro's work with powering your home. I think you have a nice setup with them and the solar recharging capability too. Also, if it comes down to it, you can run your gas generator to charge up the batteries if the solar panels don't get enough light one day.
That's a key point. For individuals, guaranteeing baseload usually requires gas or propane. Just saying. I have a 2400 WH lithium battery power station with solar panels, but I also have a dual fuel 4500 watt generator. Gotta be realistic.
👋👋. That was a workout right at the beginning of the video lol.
REALLY GLAD I WATCHED your video... !! Was about to buy a gas powered generator for powering my small house during our (far too frequent) electric outages from the LOUSY utility company !
HI Evan, I just looked at these on Harbor freight and had some questions that you answered in your video. Thanks
nice i like the generator interlock u installed in to your breaker, very useful something I never saw before.
There is no way these two units would power all electric home. The water heater and three ton heat pump would max them out. Imagine running hot water heater, heat pump, electric dryer, electric stove, refrigerator, microwave and lights. Dreaming!
Just buy a $30000 solar system to keep them charged😂
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Its 3600 Watt/hr battery and presumably 3600 Watt inverter (30 amp at 120v) will allow for 1 hour at Max load or 2 hours at half load, 1800 Watt/hr
For the approximately $2500 that a single unit costs he could have bought a Predator 9500w super quiet inverter generator that includes electric start. This unit supports 240v 30a (plus additional connects). Harbor Freight offers a 2 year full replacement warranty.
Another good option is a generac whole house automatic generator connected to natural gas or a large propaine tank(s), I wouldn't get anything smaller than 500 gallon as you can only fill the tank to 80%. A 20+KWhr generator installed is probably less than 2 of these units, extra batteries and solar panels, except it would be capable of automatic transfer, and running everything in your house 24/7 for several weeks.
Additionally when on backup power you ALWAYS want to minimize how much electricity is being used.
With the 2 3600w systems, and the parallel cable (allows 2 units to run 240v) he is probably well over $5500. If he's going to buy solar panels that will start at $1000 and quickly go up.
He would have been better off to get the solar panels, some good lithium batteries and a pair of line syncing inverters. These inverters are designed to run while connected to mains. This reduces how much electricity you are buying.
And finally, you can call these units "solar generators" but they are neither solar nor a generator. They are portable power stations that accept limited solar input.
You pay a huge premium to get portability in an enclosure. If you don't need portability, this is among the highest cost method to do what he wants.
This is definitly something that’s an awesome option. Just remember, your generator is not running like it should. Both of mine start one pull on choke, one of them has electric start. The gas generator will always outperform these and if kept in running order your wife could easily start. My wife is 4’10” and 90lbs and starts ours
get one with electric start and there is no issue.
@@jstar1000 You can also convert a rope pull starter to accept a input from an electric drill to make you own electric starter type generator. Be sure it's strong enough and make sure to recharge it as soon as your generator is going. LOL
What happens during the zombie apocalypse and you can't get gas???
@@lex1633 I’ll hook it to propane or natural gas
Wow! I had B&S gas 5500klw portable generator (of course connected to key devices and a few lights.) through a 220 volt connect /manual switch box for 6 years. Yeah! My wife finally caved in to get a Natural gas 12 Klw B&S whole house generator. Power goes out generator kicks on. Love it love it. I might decide to push for solar on the roof.
Nice video.
I just barely stumbled upon this video (and your channel) and I must say...that is one gorgeous property you have there. Beautiful house and garage setup!
Well I know what I’ll be asking for next 😊
They can run mostly anything, but not for long. There’s a few videos with people that have two Delta Pro’s and 4 expended batteries. They hook up to there whole house and they ran about 12 hours. Then they needed to charge up the next day.
Remember, it’s not sunny every day. You need to come up with a plan B to charge the Delta Pros with out solar. I would keep that gas generator for back up.
This whole thing with rechargeable generators is a gimmick for people with thicker vallets and limited knowledge and experience. Nobody needs to run whole house in emergency situation. Only essentials which may extend some usage time but even then, this is all crap. Luckily, most people using those can get away with it if they live in areas that power is not affected for days long time.
just get one power station and a small generator best of both worlds. It is a false binary to chose either or why not both?
Solar recharge each day isn't really a viable solution. Often, your power is out because of bad weather. But what I like about these units, is they can be configured to kick on the moment your power goes out, with a panel interface. Then, you could run your Generator to recharge the batteries if the outage runs more than a few hours. To solve the generator starting issues, get a Honda. Or plan to use a lot of starter fluid.
Great way to do backup but a lot more expensive than a single 7000 watt inverter generator. If you keep a generator like that up-to-date and you run it every two weeks or every month, to be sure it will start, it should be very reliable for house back up. And a lot of the newer generators come with an electric start, making it even easier. As nice as those Eco flows are, they wouldn't be able to power your house for more than a day or if even that. The solar panels wouldn't be able to charge it fast enough to run multiple days. And it would be very inefficient to try to charge them running your car. I think those Eco flows would be good if you know you're just going to have a very short power outage.
Finally someone with a realistic take.
Very true!!!
These battery pack jobs are great for low current items like lights or phones/laptops! Need to run a fuel generator for a whole house. Same with a camper. Try running AC on hot day in a camper with the battery units, it would be out in a few hours.
Very true. I have a 6000W battery system with 800W solar panels with a 3000W inverter and l can barely last 24 hrs in winter with emergency load only that means furnace, one freezer and one fridge and internet router and wifi.
I’ve been an electrician since 1978. Here’s my 2 cents … you are over selling this…
This is A way …not THE way …eggs in a basket!
Why don’t you do a video on maintaining your generator …because you are going to need it when power goes down for more than a day or so
Just sayin…I’ve lived in Southern Florida most of my life,last 30 in Ft. Myers.
My first hurricane was Andrew. My current 5500 watt pull start generator has been with us thru Charley,Irma and Ian
Been there done that!
KISS method…Do run it out of gas ,drain the gas tank (run non ethanol preferably) I occasionally pull the cord ,just to move oil in the motor and crank it up annually. A splash of fresh fuel run a couple of minutes. Ready for season
Sorry guys I was lucky with Ian but a lot of others weren’t so I’m a little raw.
Floods ,winter storms ,hurricanes are real not some zombie apocalypse!! be realistically ready……too long of a comment sorry I’m done
Awesome use in a camper travel trailer, especially if you are solar charging. It will be nice and quiet you won’t be disturbing the wild life
Thanks that a big help I have been leaning towards. The portable unit in stead of other way I can only read so much then need some pictures lol to set it up . were at about 600 month now Steve. Calif.
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This is so awesome! I cannot wait for this series of videos. It just so happens we purchased an Ecoflow Delta 2 with solar panles to be a battery backup for shorter power outages - to handle the refrigerator/freezer. I do have a whole house gas generator (with a generator cutoff switch) to power the entire house. I plan on trying out this system to see what it can do this weekend!
Thanks for sharing Evan and Rebecca, anxious to see them hooked up to the Solar system to see how they will charge up on a total outage situation. Stay safe, Fred.
You know he got those for free, right? And if he really had to buy them for that big house - with a basement so you know he is in the cold winter place - he'd get a Generac Whole House NG for the same investment.
Amazing, and if you move you can take it with you. No gasoline, no start headaches, no oil to change. Much less maintenance
A friend of ours just bought two Bluetti 5000W and two add on battery's and has two more on the way He also bought several Bluetti solar pannels.
My first reaction would be to identify and correct the reason why your generator is hard to start. Just guessing but the carburetor probably needs to be cleaned.
Also, you never mentioned how long the range of power outages last.
Why is it that "Green technology always seems to begin with subsidies or a gift to disguise the actual costs?
Just a fantastic review. Clear, concise and such a kind and friendly personality. I am off grid and of course always interested in something like this. Thanks very much.
Great video thanks for putting this together! Can't wait to hear how the solar panels work for you. If they work out I'll be buying the same system just like to know if you can go off the grid with the solar panels and for how long.
Both this video and the "test" video were exactly what I was looking for regarding this product. Well done and thanks!
I absolutely love this setup. I was doing a lot of research about 4 years ago, and this was one of only a few options to power your whole house at that time. It seemed pretty ideal. Now I believe that there are other options, and even options that allow you to do it with one unit. BUT the benefit with this unit now, is that they are a lot less expensive than they used to be. EcoFlow offers a Delta Pro 3 that is more advance, but the good thing is that it lowered the price for the original Delta Pro featured in this video, which they still offer. I'm just looking for back-up power in the case of outages, and the original should work perfectly for me.
The biggest benefit in my opinion, is that they are quiet. A gas generator gets the job done, but it's so noisy, AND sucks down a lot of gas. Fine for a few days, but if the outage extends close to a week or beyond, it's hard to keep that much gas on hand. Solar is the ideal way to power these Delta units up, put that's a whole other level of cost and complication. Definitely worth it if it's your real power supply as in an off-grid cabin, but no so practical for me personally for infrequent power outages. My ideal plan would be to use a combination of gas generator, AND these Delta Pro units. At night I could use a pair of Deltas to power the house, mainly worried about powering refrigerator, freezer, minor lights, and a window AC unit for one of the rooms. I live in Florida, and outages are usually related to hurricanes, so dealing with heat and humidity is a real issue, so the option of a window AC is a real luxury to allow a good night sleep. Then during the day, I could turn on the gas generator and connect it to the house. One of the things that I would be using the generator power would be to recharge the Deltas, and of course refrigerator and freezer, and fans. The combination should allow me to make it for a week, and use A LOT less gas during that time ..... plus I get to sleep in silence. That combination is my ideal plan.
Agree with most counts about charging via solar. I bought a 1200w solar generator to run my home refrigerator and it did great. It keep all our food for about 13hours. At morning I went outside to plug in solar and overcast no sun. I was getting 13watts. Luckily power came back 6 hrs later. I think a gas/propane generator is the way to go. We didn't have sun for about 4days. It's not practical to use solar generator for long power outages. Unless your battery bank is massive to run for days.
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Thanks very much for this review. It's been extremely helpful. Your testing was great, real-world stuff, and to-the-point. Subscribed and looking forward to future stuff.
If you’re going to run your house with the same load as the generator can supply (5,500 watts), you’re going to get less than an hour and a half out of those two batteries. Your generator will run a lot longer and can be refueled in a few minutes. If you’re worried about being the last to get your power back, your batteries aren’t worth much. You’d be better off getting your generator tuned up or replacing it. Longer power, less cost.
What is the best affordable, whole house gas powered generator?
Generac
I wouldn’t trust a battery during snow seasons. Batteries are great for a few hours but when you don’t have no sun or electricity then it’s a light out for you. Gas generator is the best option no matter what.
@@dfaro8453not true, you can charge off your car 12volt if needed tbh.
@@dfaro8453 the best is both. I run my generator for an hour to charge the battery then it won't be needed for the rest of the day
I have one of these 3600 units, We have an occasional short term (a few hours) outages. We have used it to cook dinner on an induction cooktop and run a few led lights. The run time is only a few hours and so not worth it for outages lasting for a 1/2 a day or more. They are also very expensive. Recommend a propane, gas or diesel generator for more than a few hour outages.
Great info. I had a gasoline 14,000 watt generator but having arthritis in one hand, the main breaker switch just couldn’t be flipped. It was way too hard for my hand. I’m looking at a 24kw Generac
Looks cool Evan, I like it. I have to say that could be what a person needs, to keep it quiet during an outage. That said, they are a little expensive for those on a fixed or low income, but if you can afford them, then those might be the ticket. Enjoyed this one, thanks, hope you all have a great weekend.
6200.00 dollars for both to run your house............ Now if you had a Generac whole house generator to power everything 24 hours 7 days a week for 14700 Kw for 4700.00 with automatic change over so you would not have to be home to power up your house PRICELESS......................
Thank you!!!! And he has propane at the house. I have an 12kw whole house generator and it’s awesome. Trouble free, it does maintenance starts once a month lights are off for maybe 2 mins when it changes over.
But Generac didn’t send him a free generator!
Yeah, it's cool when you get stuff for free, but I doubt you would fork out the $6,000+ if you wanted to buy it.
Great video. Thank you.
For home owners that don't care to run 240V appliances during a powed outage. I suppose you could have just one of those units connected to appropriate 110V branch circuits in your main circuit box through a transfer switch.
I currently do that with a battery bank and inverter so I can run my CPAC machine, a small refrigerator and some lights during a power outage.
That's why I'm thinking about buying a Koehler natural gas whole house generator with an automatic transfer switch. A good unit for $6000.
until the price comes down it might as well me unobtanium.
It’s called maintaining the generator.
This was a nice demo. I’m trying to move away from my gas powered generator and I like the convenience of this approach. Pricey but easy and flexible. You paired two pros but I think a battery can be used with one pro and maybe save a few dollars.
I run a delta pro 14,400wats set up with the smart generators and 3200watts of solar panels with the smart home panel in 120 mode. I only run the 120 side of the house but I run it all the Time to reduce our bill. The generators very seldom kick on but they are great backups. In a grid down situation I have a portable 14k btu AC that we run to keep our bedroom cool at night. I’ve been waiting on a good plug and play system.
Thanks for the great video. I noticed you have batteries plugged in outside. I read that cold weather really affects lithium batteries in terms of reducing capacity and even causing damage.
Another commercial for a battery backup unit. Basically they are all the same and most TH-camrs have been given one and most viewer are getting sick of seeing all the same type of videos this is my second today oh good can’t wait.
Way, way too expensive for me at $7000. I'll stay with my candles at $1.19.
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Those candles going to keep your food cold?
@@LivLifeTasteDeath When my food goes bad $7000 will keep me going for a long time with new food.
Ima doing the same, sold 2 gas generators, after the last hurricane in fla and 9 days NO power, people spent $100 a day in gas or propane, for the cost of the eco flow, solar panels, etc., it will save u in the long run, no more crappy carbs, non working GFI's, gas, oil changes every 48 hours when in use for days in a row, cool off times, and people still lost their fridge & frozen freezer food, no power, no credit cards, everything was cash only, hurricane knocked down trees so every road was blocked, nothing open, so no gas, propane to be had, Ima sick of gas/propane generators, the whole house ones cost people double the portable generators in propane, unless your filthy rich, solar battery generators r the way to go, plus u dont have to wait til the storms over, watch for it be stolen, its quiet, in the house, no noise, doesnt attract thieves, etc., Ima right there with ya buddy!
I have a 25 year old Briggs and Stratton generator that starts on the second pull after I open the petcock. I've repaired and replaced things over the years, but as long as I maintain it, it fire's right up.
Interesting. Just found your channel. I recently purchased a Bluetti generator system because I live rurally in central Illinois and we have frequent blackouts. I still have my backup gas generator because it’s not sunny all the time. I think I’d rather have the solar generator indoors out of the weather. Funny, I lived in southern Illinois for 6 years. Now I’m planning and looking to leave Illinois. I’ve had enough.
I have the solar generators inside and hooked to the interlock. I also have solar ran inside to them. So they are set up pretty good.
I completely understand leaving Illinois.
I really hate to say this..... but, battery backups are not so good in cold or wet weather conditions. The cold, especially when its below freezing, battery life is severely reduced. (Just ask tesla users) and if they get wet, they have a tendency to catch fire or explode.
Diesel or propane are better choices for power in an emergency situation. They have easier "refuel" ability, and depending on the size of the generator, you can power your whole house on a 15-20kWh system like it was on the normal grid.
Batteries only have a 5-10 year max life, and solar is only good for 15-20 years before you have to do an entire system replacement.
They are great choices if you are only worried about power outages of a couple hours, and the noise reduction is amazing as well. But from personal experience, back in 2000, the winter storm we had in NC, we were without grid power for 5 weeks. If we didnt have our propane stove, heater, and generator, it could have been a lot worse.
But i do like to be proven wrong. So i look forward to the future videos.
I find the sad part is that he works in the oil industry. And pushing this product. A shame
@82ndpara21 that part has no bearing on the product. Im all for alternative power solutions. And honestly, i do see the benefits of having a system like this, and the one he wants to create. But thats the warfighter in me lol (noise pollution can get people killed in certain situations)
But in a non-tactical emergency event, me personally, i would want something more reliable. If i need 6 hours of power, i dont want the cold or water to limit my ability to have it. Regardless of noise. (Even fuel based generators have push button start now)
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While I'm an EcoFlow fan and have one of their smaller units, you really do have to consider cost-effectiveness. You're up to $7500+ for half a day's power here. If you add enough solar to recharge these units fully every day, you're probably looking at another $7500+ for the solar panels, controllers and wiring. Yes, your 5500 Watt gas genny is unreliable. But it's around $750... not $7500. And with several gas cans you can run for days. If you get a dual fuel genny and a bunch of 20lb propane tanks your reliability and ease of use will go way up. Still for under $1,000. Just saying...
great point. we had several days of hot rainy weather. solar was practically useless so, looking at charging the batteries. (although that just reduces their life cycle)
Good point but Gas might not be available in some situations
@@thenewcamelot8873 what situations? The gas generator is for rainy/bad weather. Pretty cheap to store fuel.
If there is a supply chain shortage and gas not available to buy @@darwinjina
It had a big price drop, you can buy both for a little over $5k now
I got paid to tell you all this nonsense about this batteries, yet again. We will all disconnect from the power grid and connect to a pack of AAA batteries because batteries and GENERATOR are the same thing, And this fascinating batteries can "generate" electricity out of thin air even with imaginary solar panels in winter, HEH. Followed for years, now.........Unsubed
I understand... the beginning of this video is is worthy of colorful metaphors !!! and in multiple languages...!
Keep your Generac ready by keeping it warm. Fresh oil helps, too. I keep a light bulb under the tarp. If not too cold, second pull always works