I guess the Spanish bonus only helps if you are actually in a team game (or you manage to trade with your opponent, or you got some specialty map with neutral markets), while the ones mentioned here also help in single-player games.
I especially like Spanish+Persian combo on closed maps, because the +25% Spanish trade can be sped up even FASTER with the Caravanserai. This speed bonus stacks with the % trade bonus making it fairly OP. This is not even counting the Spanish gold bonuses and Persian 0-gold crossbows, so you can never out-gold this team in the late game, even with 5 relics. Plus, the Spanish Knights/Cav/Pal gets the Persian +2 attack vs archers which is always nice while the Elephants/Savar tank the damage which is crucial for those mass chaos brawls. That's if you don't use the Spanish Heavy Cav/Hand Cannon/Bombard.
I feel acient - I remember when the saracens had +3 on their Cav archers against buildings. A bonus almost nobody knew about because saracen CA was not common. The opponents thought I was cheating when I killed TCs with CA in Castle age, but it was a thing.
@@faultier3215I do remember the bonus was used to be higher, like +5 on buildings. It's just during the voobly era nobody really liked CA, it was too expensive for unit that hard to be microed.
Teuton bonus is really OP, because it literally hard counters every monk strategy in the game. You can get teuton bonus + get devotion and literally make Persian war elephants viable.
@@krystofcisar469 All civs get Devotion. Only some civs miss out on Faith, but Persians aren't one of them so this would make them viable against Monks.
In my opinion Inca bonus is extremely underrated, an extra llama wich is like 80 or 90 food is extremely good in the early game because it helps to aford technologies and units for the flank and helps with castle age timing for the pocket. Im surprised you didn't consider it at least for honorable mention Hera.
But it is just a one time bonus!! The Aztec bonus is throughout the game -- the rate at which ur gold grows after u take the relics is underrated or never spoken about much!!
5:13 11 I hope the Dravidians bit never dies lol My dad usually plays Mongols when we play together and I definitely missed the scouting bonus when it’s not there!
Ethiopian output bonus 4 lyfe! You can spy on your opponents, identify villagers targets the enemy doesn't you know you can see, see enemy movements in advance etc.
With due respect all your team bonus are primarily focussed on fueldal and castle age plays just with one team mate. My list for late game team bonuses are 1. Spanish - Whole game benefits all players continuously. Needs trade carts though. 2. Berbers/Vietnamese / Italians- Poor unit combo civs get a huge boost entire game. 3. Burgundians / Aztecs / Bengalis / Chinese - Trickle of resources entire game but difficult to quantify. For aztecs and burgundians we have to collect the relics first. 4. Slavs/ Dravidians - Even if all your houses in base are destroyed, your fwd military buildings will provide the lush required without need to build new houses. Dravidians are good only in water maps though. 5. Britons/Goths/Celts/Gurjaras/Turks/Huns/Magyars/Lithuanians - All giving boost to faster military production throughout the game. These team bonuses last entire game rather than one time effect or used as a niche.
Pros spend a lot more time in Feudal and Castle age since they can effectively punish teams that are too greedy. That is one reason he is valuing early bonuses so much. The other reason is that late-game bonuses are not always helpful because sometimes you die before Imperial age or are too far behind by then to catch up.
Spanish I agree is an impactful late game bonus that Hera should have at least honourably mentioned. The others you mention (apart from Italians which Hera mentioned) are nowhere near impactful enough in late game to make a big difference. The issue is inflation - in early game, even a small bonus is huge compared to your current eco. Post-imp, a bonus has to be absolutely busted to make a real difference. Map control and unit composition are what wins you late team games, not slightly more gold from relics.
In my opinion, top tier players like Hera and others are ALWAYS focused on dark, feudal and castle age strats!! They finish the game in castle age mostly, but low ELO players like me and the majority of us, we like castle and post castle stuff and prefer to wait it out!! It might help these play casters to cast more of castle and post castle stuff cuz that is where the majority of the players are!!
@@ViciousSatsuma Most of the players of you see in unranked Looby play Amazon tunnel and black forest. After playing the game for 22 years now I think for long game players if the game lasts for more than 45 minutes these bonuses help to sustain unit production. Even a 10 percent difference in resources from 35 minute to 1 hour mark will make a huge impact in the outcome of the game. That said game time is the most important factor when discussing such team bonuses.
Nice video! To be honest, I thought about Spanish for number 1. That might be only for post-imp battles and closed maps though. Best late game team bonus? What do you guys think?
I remember back in the day playing the original Conquerors 3v3 or 4v4 with my cousins, and every team was basically required to have someone play as the Spanish.
Hera's list clearly uses his own context of high-skilled players. In those games early advantages are much more important because players are skilled enough to snowball small early advantages into bigger advantages to win the game. Spanish is not on the list exactly because it's only a lategame bonus. That's why you see his top picks all being early game things that late-game players wouldn't even care about. Mongols for scouting, Slavs/Dravidians for extra pop room early on, and even Saracens for breaking palisades with archers. These are all bonuses that sound weak unless you think about very specific early-game contexts.
I think Spanish one is less universal, amazing for lategame focused maps but on something like Arabia is not usually helpful Should have been an HM though
This is a good list, i especially like the Slav pick which for some reason flies under the radar. Mongol bonus I agree is good, but not my number 1. Spanish needs to be at least mentioned though!
Honorable mentions: berbers, they have a really strong and mobile skirmisher for the allies especially if they're a cav civ in need of a breakthrough bohemian with spanish have the best trade combo for trading maps. super honorable mention; magyars for sending villagers out to lure boars or build walls in black forest
For the saracaens it can be calculated like this. In the late game having 2 archery civs and some melee you can easily have 50 archers in a base set to kill infantry if they span, then attack buildings when they're free to. 30 attacks a min for two min is 60 extra attacks, times 50 archers is 6000 dmg with plus 2 to buildings. You'll be able to hollow out bases considerably easier and reduce the amount of troops that can stop your infantry and seige.
The team bonus that always puts a smile on my face is the llama from Incas. I never think about it before the game loads and I just see this silly llama that also helps me out with food
Saracen bonus is amazing for unbalanced teams as well, since it enables high elo teammates to overperform on the flank, shredding bases and potentially TC's before the opponent can hit castle. Normally it's best to have them in the pocket, but Saracen bonus let's you circumvent that :)
2:40 when I think this bonus was "mocked" by SOTL a long time ago... 🤣 Now that being said, and credit where credit is due, he did change his mind on it and thinks that it's much better than he used to... :)
Teutons and Bengalis would have pretty good synergy imo. Teutons would benefit from Food in trades for their Infantry and Paladins (Sure their Farms are cheaper but that benefits Wood savings more than Food), and Bengali elephants would be even MORE conversion resistant, making Monk strats unviable.
Surprised spanish wasnt mentioned, but the ones you have are pretty good. Wasnt expectinf mongols but I love playing them in dark age because of the bonus
I think it’s really hard to make a top 5 team bonus list without specifying whether the map is open or closed-Spanish is really really good on closed maps but meh on open maps cuz game has low prob of going late while Mongols are really good on open maps but are meh on closed ones (ur gonna be pushing deer on arena for example)
I was predicting Spanish as #1 with the build up. I kinda agree the scout is really nice, but in long team games more trade gold I think kinda wins it. Mongols for quick rushing TGs, Spanish for protracted TGs, how bout dat
It should be a closed/open different list, also 2v2 or 4v4 Mongol bonus in RF is nothing compared with Spanish most op. Also we should consider ELO levels. We can see how many ppl love the inca bonus....
Hera, as a new player I appreciate your insights, you as a pro player, I've mulled over your videos to help someone as inexperienced as myself, perhaps an update on hotkeys would be greatly appreciated. I've always struggled to make sense of it all, overwhelming as it is. An updated breakdown of hotkey binding and perhaps give noobs like myself a pointer for what setup we should be looking to get/use. Much appreciated 🙏
my fave team is the Aztecs, just sneak all (or as many) the relics quickly and watch how fast ur gold grows!! It's incredible tho it might apply to low and mid ELO players and not top tier players!! Always keep Aztecs as ur team mate when playing solo games!!
Spanish on certain maps and constellations is probably the #1team bonus (4v4 BF/Michi) - while on other maps almost completely irrelevant (2v2 arab, open maps). So perhaps too situational.
Working off my bad memory I think teutons have a plus 3 sec min and plus 1 second max. Anything on the extreme end of fast or beefy would benefit from this.
The Teuton team bonus is currently +3s minimum conversion time and +1s max conversion time. In contrast devotion is +1/1s and faith is +4/4s all of these also stack. It's a very powerful bonus considering how expensive faith is (used to be even worse) I do think the Teuton bonus has decreased in value ever since devotion got added, monks have gotten weaker by this. Still a very potent team bonus, making the best knight counter in castle age unreliable at best.
I would put Malians really high on my list, and Berbers as my #1 because their bonuses are applicable to basically every game that reaches castle age. Though the genitour is terrible for some civs, the Berbers still get kasbah, and no one can complain about the Malians +80% research speed bonus for university techs.
Question: For Saracen's team bonus, when it applies on Chu Ko Nu, does only the main arrow get +2 bonus, or the main arrow plus all the secondary arrows get bonus?
→ The Poles have a variant of the Slav/Dravidian bonus, but it only applies to them, not a team bonus: their mills provide +5 pop space. (And I guess Chinese has this for their town centers.) → The Mongol team bonus doesn't help me much if I'm playing an American (i.e. cavalry-less) civ, I guess. And on Megarandom, everyone might not even have a scout, or am I mixing this up?
Totally agree with you, but more honorable mentions: Huns: 20% faster stables, huge advantage when rushing in feudal and castle. Spanish: +25% gold generation with trade carts. Huge advantage in long games. Franks: Knights +2 LOS, you dont have to create a light cav unit to scout in later game when you are looking for gold/stone mines.
Spanish is the strongest Bonus in teamgames! what do you say to the 4 bonuses which increases workrate of military buildings like Goths, Britons, Huns or Turks?
I doubt it. Keyboard and mouse are are just superior to controllers regarding hotkeys, groupings, micro.. It would be insanely unfair. But if you are fine wth this insane handicap you can try. You won't have any fun though, atleast not from playing. The only fun would come from spending time with friends and most people would rather have fun from both aspects.
If its a nomad start, Koreans team bonus is wayyyy better than Mongols. That extra vil LOS is great. I agree with the list in spirit but it feels too broad and the team bonuses could be teired easier based on map. Like nomad starts Mongol bonus is useless, but its nice in arabia starts but team game arabia is super stale anyways.
I love slavs like no one, but i really don see a good bonus in +5 pop in a 175 wood building, just give mi a Lama or just a free +5 and i will be hapier
You must be 800 ELO or smtn bro, practically speaking Slavs bonus is the same than -25 wood per military building and the construction time on villagers. And once you reach castle age or imperial age when you build like 10 stables, it actually comes in clutch because you dont get housed
I'm biased because I'm a Spanish main but yeah I agree on it being map dependent.. maps like Miichi or black forest makes trade carts broken compared to arabia or nomad. Arena players are just different
@@droger1448 I don’t know if that’s an Xbox thing but you guys are so fast on the market unless we are on Michi I am always the last one. Sometimes they are still feudal at 20 minutes but doing trades in Black Forest🤷♂️
Spanish is always such a fun one to have, more gold means more big fights.
In black forest, having a Spanish teammate is essential!
yea, i feel like spanish should be up there
Surprised it was not up there. I just came from one of his videos and he just said "Spanish ally is a must in team games"
I guess the Spanish bonus only helps if you are actually in a team game (or you manage to trade with your opponent, or you got some specialty map with neutral markets), while the ones mentioned here also help in single-player games.
I especially like Spanish+Persian combo on closed maps, because the +25% Spanish trade can be sped up even FASTER with the Caravanserai. This speed bonus stacks with the % trade bonus making it fairly OP. This is not even counting the Spanish gold bonuses and Persian 0-gold crossbows, so you can never out-gold this team in the late game, even with 5 relics.
Plus, the Spanish Knights/Cav/Pal gets the Persian +2 attack vs archers which is always nice while the Elephants/Savar tank the damage which is crucial for those mass chaos brawls. That's if you don't use the Spanish Heavy Cav/Hand Cannon/Bombard.
I remember those glorious days of Mayan with Obsidian Arrows and Saracen teammate ...
Taking out castles with crossbows in castle age. Yeah those were the days.. I miss that 11
I feel acient - I remember when the saracens had +3 on their Cav archers against buildings. A bonus almost nobody knew about because saracen CA was not common. The opponents thought I was cheating when I killed TCs with CA in Castle age, but it was a thing.
@@faultier3215I do remember the bonus was used to be higher, like +5 on buildings. It's just during the voobly era nobody really liked CA, it was too expensive for unit that hard to be microed.
10:07 When Hera says he is not gonna watch Spirit of the law videos 😢
I know, wtf, SOTL and his math books must be protected at all costs.
Heresy!
I like the free llama as inca Team Bonus. At 1k elo it gives a good advantage for the whole team on any map
true
Agreed, it's really underrated, and helps in every single game, unlike the Spanish where the game has to reach imp for it to have any impact.
I love free lama when i play with chinese
Huns team bonus is way better than saracens
@@imsmeagol911post imp really 😂
The Dravidian shade, what a madlad
Teuton bonus is really OP, because it literally hard counters every monk strategy in the game. You can get teuton bonus + get devotion and literally make Persian war elephants viable.
i dont think you can get devotion for persians, unless you convert their elephants :D its op, unless theres 100 lightcav on the map
@@krystofcisar469 All civs get Devotion. Only some civs miss out on Faith, but Persians aren't one of them so this would make them viable against Monks.
8:50 The maya, aztec and inca allies: ¿🗿?
Thats what your Armenian bros are for
Also Gurjaras because of camel scout.
In my opinion Inca bonus is extremely underrated, an extra llama wich is like 80 or 90 food is extremely good in the early game because it helps to aford technologies and units for the flank and helps with castle age timing for the pocket. Im surprised you didn't consider it at least for honorable mention Hera.
But it is just a one time bonus!! The Aztec bonus is throughout the game -- the rate at which ur gold grows after u take the relics is underrated or never spoken about much!!
@@chirantans2162 is a fair argument, but timings are also something important in my opinion.
It was much stronger before they fixed the sheep spawn points.
Not even Spanish trade as number one
It is an OP bonus but comes into play at the 40 minutes of game.
normally the games dont get at trade point
@@nelsonmejiaslozada9362 and only in team games, 1v1 is an empty slot
5:13 11 I hope the Dravidians bit never dies lol
My dad usually plays Mongols when we play together and I definitely missed the scouting bonus when it’s not there!
One strong bonus being Sarracen or Berber is Hindustanis'. +2 attack to buildings for mamelukes and camel archer is a great addition for those units
Ethiopian output bonus 4 lyfe! You can spy on your opponents, identify villagers targets the enemy doesn't you know you can see, see enemy movements in advance etc.
With due respect all your team bonus are primarily focussed on fueldal and castle age plays just with one team mate. My list for late game team bonuses are
1. Spanish - Whole game benefits all players continuously. Needs trade carts though.
2. Berbers/Vietnamese / Italians- Poor unit combo civs get a huge boost entire game.
3. Burgundians / Aztecs / Bengalis / Chinese - Trickle of resources entire game but difficult to quantify. For aztecs and burgundians we have to collect the relics first.
4. Slavs/ Dravidians - Even if all your houses in base are destroyed, your fwd military buildings will provide the lush required without need to build new houses. Dravidians are good only in water maps though.
5. Britons/Goths/Celts/Gurjaras/Turks/Huns/Magyars/Lithuanians - All giving boost to faster military production throughout the game.
These team bonuses last entire game rather than one time effect or used as a niche.
Pros spend a lot more time in Feudal and Castle age since they can effectively punish teams that are too greedy. That is one reason he is valuing early bonuses so much. The other reason is that late-game bonuses are not always helpful because sometimes you die before Imperial age or are too far behind by then to catch up.
Spanish I agree is an impactful late game bonus that Hera should have at least honourably mentioned. The others you mention (apart from Italians which Hera mentioned) are nowhere near impactful enough in late game to make a big difference.
The issue is inflation - in early game, even a small bonus is huge compared to your current eco. Post-imp, a bonus has to be absolutely busted to make a real difference. Map control and unit composition are what wins you late team games, not slightly more gold from relics.
In my opinion, top tier players like Hera and others are ALWAYS focused on dark, feudal and castle age strats!! They finish the game in castle age mostly, but low ELO players like me and the majority of us, we like castle and post castle stuff and prefer to wait it out!! It might help these play casters to cast more of castle and post castle stuff cuz that is where the majority of the players are!!
@@ViciousSatsuma Most of the players of you see in unranked Looby play Amazon tunnel and black forest. After playing the game for 22 years now I think for long game players if the game lasts for more than 45 minutes these bonuses help to sustain unit production. Even a 10 percent difference in resources from 35 minute to 1 hour mark will make a huge impact in the outcome of the game. That said game time is the most important factor when discussing such team bonuses.
@@ramborambo4310go Hindus with Spanish and Bengali ally ^^
Man, the Dravidians -Viper joke LOL 😂😂😂😂
Spanish not even on the list?!‽
Most games won't see trade carts
@@tizianogodoy7623a lot of team games will get them
And yet when he just did a 2v5…
2v5 are gimmicks that obviously require trade. But normal team games oft end early when someone dies to feudal pressure
Nice video!
To be honest, I thought about Spanish for number 1. That might be only for post-imp battles and closed maps though.
Best late game team bonus? What do you guys think?
I remember back in the day playing the original Conquerors 3v3 or 4v4 with my cousins, and every team was basically required to have someone play as the Spanish.
Hera's list clearly uses his own context of high-skilled players. In those games early advantages are much more important because players are skilled enough to snowball small early advantages into bigger advantages to win the game. Spanish is not on the list exactly because it's only a lategame bonus. That's why you see his top picks all being early game things that late-game players wouldn't even care about. Mongols for scouting, Slavs/Dravidians for extra pop room early on, and even Saracens for breaking palisades with archers. These are all bonuses that sound weak unless you think about very specific early-game contexts.
I think Spanish one is less universal, amazing for lategame focused maps but on something like Arabia is not usually helpful
Should have been an HM though
bro is putting out every single video except the persian douche counter he promised us 6 months ago
I would have added the Armenians in the honorable mentions: they work as Mongols for meso civs.
I'm also surprised not sering the Spanish anywhere.
The true terror combo was Saracens and Mayan Obsidians arrows and there was not building safe from archers.
This is a good list, i especially like the Slav pick which for some reason flies under the radar. Mongol bonus I agree is good, but not my number 1.
Spanish needs to be at least mentioned though!
You’ll never convince Viper about Dravidians, Hera 111 … also i love that you include bits like this because out of context people just won’t know 😂
Honorable mentions:
berbers, they have a really strong and mobile skirmisher for the allies especially if they're a cav civ in need of a breakthrough
bohemian with spanish have the best trade combo for trading maps.
super honorable mention; magyars for sending villagers out to lure boars or build walls in black forest
For the saracaens it can be calculated like this.
In the late game having 2 archery civs and some melee you can easily have 50 archers in a base set to kill infantry if they span, then attack buildings when they're free to.
30 attacks a min for two min is 60 extra attacks, times 50 archers is 6000 dmg with plus 2 to buildings. You'll be able to hollow out bases considerably easier and reduce the amount of troops that can stop your infantry and seige.
ethiopian improved los in outpost 100% nr. 1, the only teambonus that affects bm on your opponent
Love the shout out to STOL and other Creators. That's awesome! i watch your channel because i watched STOL.
Spanish should be an honorable mention no?
Excellent! And great sportmanship/exemple/attitude with mentioning other content creators at the beginning! Big thumbs up to you
The team bonus that always puts a smile on my face is the llama from Incas. I never think about it before the game loads and I just see this silly llama that also helps me out with food
Saracen bonus is amazing for unbalanced teams as well, since it enables high elo teammates to overperform on the flank, shredding bases and potentially TC's before the opponent can hit castle. Normally it's best to have them in the pocket, but Saracen bonus let's you circumvent that :)
Been playing a lot of Mongols myself. That LoS bonus is sooo nice.
On the Saracens archers bonus: it is 1/3 of Obsidian Arrows for free at the start of the game for your entire team.
Vietnamese bonus of revealing town center is very useful; along with IMP skirm shared by the teams. They should be a top 5-6.
2:40 when I think this bonus was "mocked" by SOTL a long time ago... 🤣 Now that being said, and credit where credit is due, he did change his mind on it and thinks that it's much better than he used to... :)
i remember ;D
Yeah i remember disagreeing vividly about his oppinion too.
Teutons and Bengalis would have pretty good synergy imo. Teutons would benefit from Food in trades for their Infantry and Paladins (Sure their Farms are cheaper but that benefits Wood savings more than Food), and Bengali elephants would be even MORE conversion resistant, making Monk strats unviable.
Surprised spanish wasnt mentioned, but the ones you have are pretty good. Wasnt expectinf mongols but I love playing them in dark age because of the bonus
4:26 "because whose gonna stop me?"
- hera 2024
I think it’s really hard to make a top 5 team bonus list without specifying whether the map is open or closed-Spanish is really really good on closed maps but meh on open maps cuz game has low prob of going late while Mongols are really good on open maps but are meh on closed ones (ur gonna be pushing deer on arena for example)
Same could be said with Saracens being great on open maps while Aztecs good on closed-Dravidians and Viking great water map bonuses too
I was predicting Spanish as #1 with the build up. I kinda agree the scout is really nice, but in long team games more trade gold I think kinda wins it. Mongols for quick rushing TGs, Spanish for protracted TGs, how bout dat
It should be a closed/open different list, also 2v2 or 4v4
Mongol bonus in RF is nothing compared with Spanish most op.
Also we should consider ELO levels. We can see how many ppl love the inca bonus....
Hera, as a new player I appreciate your insights, you as a pro player, I've mulled over your videos to help someone as inexperienced as myself, perhaps an update on hotkeys would be greatly appreciated. I've always struggled to make sense of it all, overwhelming as it is. An updated breakdown of hotkey binding and perhaps give noobs like myself a pointer for what setup we should be looking to get/use. Much appreciated 🙏
I personally like the chinese farm bonus, thought it would make it to the list 11
Same
it used to be good, but got nerfed to the ground
True, I guess
Love the ironic flaming of viper 🤣
Mongols definitely deserved
my fave team is the Aztecs, just sneak all (or as many) the relics quickly and watch how fast ur gold grows!! It's incredible tho it might apply to low and mid ELO players and not top tier players!! Always keep Aztecs as ur team mate when playing solo games!!
Spanish on certain maps and constellations is probably the #1team bonus (4v4 BF/Michi) - while on other maps almost completely irrelevant (2v2 arab, open maps). So perhaps too situational.
a cool ranking would be about team bonus combinations, mongols + vietnamese is great, vikings + dravidians in nomad is sick
If I remember Correctly, I takes about either 1-2, or 2-3 seconds longer to convert a Teuton unit
Hera of the law
Working off my bad memory I think teutons have a plus 3 sec min and plus 1 second max.
Anything on the extreme end of fast or beefy would benefit from this.
On maps like Michi or Black Forest Spanish and Bohemains are kind of sick because they have more trade faster.
Possible balance fixes: mongol team bonus starts in feudal... portuguese bonus has all TC techs as exception, not only aging up
Ethiopians 0 stone cost outposts is insane that people forget is a team bonus. Def on the top 5 for me.
Extra Incan Lama will always be my fav civ bonus
The Teuton team bonus is currently +3s minimum conversion time and +1s max conversion time.
In contrast devotion is +1/1s and faith is +4/4s all of these also stack.
It's a very powerful bonus considering how expensive faith is (used to be even worse)
I do think the Teuton bonus has decreased in value ever since devotion got added, monks have gotten weaker by this.
Still a very potent team bonus, making the best knight counter in castle age unreliable at best.
I would put Malians really high on my list, and Berbers as my #1 because their bonuses are applicable to basically every game that reaches castle age. Though the genitour is terrible for some civs, the Berbers still get kasbah, and no one can complain about the Malians +80% research speed bonus for university techs.
Great video🎉 really surprised that Spanish is not in the list
Britons archery Ranges!!
Hera you need to try to beat Tattoh´s vill record abusing Bengali bonus of 2 vills per TC when age up, he got 428 vills xD
GOOD GAME
Aztecs/Bourguignons seems better than Slavs/Dravidians ! I agree with your others choices
Question: For Saracen's team bonus, when it applies on Chu Ko Nu, does only the main arrow get +2 bonus, or the main arrow plus all the secondary arrows get bonus?
This list isn't controversial at all. Mongols are normally number 3 behind Portuguese and Spanish.
→ The Poles have a variant of the Slav/Dravidian bonus, but it only applies to them, not a team bonus: their mills provide +5 pop space. (And I guess Chinese has this for their town centers.)
→ The Mongol team bonus doesn't help me much if I'm playing an American (i.e. cavalry-less) civ, I guess. And on Megarandom, everyone might not even have a scout, or am I mixing this up?
You should do best team combinations
Spanish trade gold bonus not even an honorable mention?!?!?!
i liked mayans + sarracens...
man, they used to shot dynamite to buildings...
The best team bonus is when you are chinese and u have an inca ally 😊
Totally agree with you,
but more honorable mentions:
Huns: 20% faster stables, huge advantage when rushing in feudal and castle.
Spanish: +25% gold generation with trade carts. Huge advantage in long games.
Franks: Knights +2 LOS, you dont have to create a light cav unit to scout in later game when you are looking for gold/stone mines.
What are your thoughts on Chinese team bonus? It was on SotL’s list but I’m not so sure about it
You didnt mention the synergy the sarracen bonus has with other civs
5:14 😂😂
Spanish is the strongest Bonus in teamgames!
what do you say to the 4 bonuses which increases workrate of military buildings like Goths, Britons, Huns or Turks?
The most annoying team bonus is burmese on nomad maps. cluttering my map like that is so bad😂
Bonuses->Boni, nice video
Britons with Sarasan bonus 💀
Early castle you can break production buildings
Imp your longbows out range castles while your trebs knock other trebs
A few more excellent ones:
Spanish
Incas
Chinese
Bohemians
05:12 lmao
You should watch sotl video, he has a different opinion about Saracen bonus lol
Can we play AoE 2 cross play with friends on pc? I am buying xbox x. Thank you in advance!
I doubt it. Keyboard and mouse are are just superior to controllers regarding hotkeys, groupings, micro.. It would be insanely unfair. But if you are fine wth this insane handicap you can try. You won't have any fun though, atleast not from playing. The only fun would come from spending time with friends and most people would rather have fun from both aspects.
Goths is great with infantry civilisation
Gujaras and American civs: I don’t agree on the no.1 😅
Mongols the most hated civ in 1v1s and the most loved in tg
👍🏻
how come the Spanish team bonus is not on the list?
Don't think everyone got the Dravidians sarcasm
I usually play the American civs so the +2 LoS on horsies does literally nothing for me 😢
Spanish/Bengalis are more relevant than Mongols in team games and Chinese > Slavs in my opinion.
🤝great vid
No Spanish surprised me... I'd take trade bonus over dock pop any day
I really thought it was Spanish trade bonus.
I think SotL voted Spanish for n°1 TB.
Please write 4 civ team bonuses for make 1 team strong in Game?
If its a nomad start, Koreans team bonus is wayyyy better than Mongols. That extra vil LOS is great.
I agree with the list in spirit but it feels too broad and the team bonuses could be teired easier based on map. Like nomad starts Mongol bonus is useless, but its nice in arabia starts but team game arabia is super stale anyways.
On Vipers channel
1) Malay
2) Malay
3) Malay
4) Malay
5) Tartars
Why wont you watch Spirits and Vipers videos?😅
Can you do best teammates next?
I love slavs like no one, but i really don see a good bonus in +5 pop in a 175 wood building, just give mi a Lama or just a free +5 and i will be hapier
You must be 800 ELO or smtn bro, practically speaking Slavs bonus is the same than -25 wood per military building and the construction time on villagers. And once you reach castle age or imperial age when you build like 10 stables, it actually comes in clutch because you dont get housed
@@miguelangelcosiorangel2617 1760 but thanks for the hate for an opinión
lets go teutons my boys!!!
No Spanish? Im surprised, a bonus that is good and works with every civ no matter what didnt make the cut?
Aye aye aye Titanic!
The complete and utter disrespect for Spanish is astonishing
Goat here :) It’s map dependant you guys go for the market way too fast in maps like Arena
I'm biased because I'm a Spanish main but yeah I agree on it being map dependent.. maps like Miichi or black forest makes trade carts broken compared to arabia or nomad. Arena players are just different
@@droger1448 I don’t know if that’s an Xbox thing but you guys are so fast on the market unless we are on Michi I am always the last one.
Sometimes they are still feudal at 20 minutes but doing trades in Black Forest🤷♂️
Nobody suspects the Spanish inquisition