Thank you Gus and Woody for supporting my work! It is greatly appreciated and I had a lot of fun getting to know you guys and your awesome community of divers!
Gained yourself a sub here. Absolutely incredible work man, I’ve got shivers. The most amazing thing is that your work will help many other cave divers to come. Thanks to dive talk for bringing you to our attention!
Rory, you definitely are skilled at diving and cartography, I would like to know why you prefer to do it the old fashioned way, instead of using a 3D ultrasonic scanner (that would drastically increase the accuracy of each little feature and cut down the man hours considerably?) Hopefully the views and TH-cam Ad money finds its way to your Channel, ✌️ From 🇨🇦
@@ajcook7777 I do honestly enjoy just mapping caves with a pencil and paper - its kind of my art. And my budget is more in the range of "should I dive nitrox or air?" 😅
As an artist I just wanted to say how incredible this guy is! The amount of effort and work that he puts into his craft is truly inspiring. His maps are beautiful!
I always love Woody’s enthusiasm. Also as someone who has a degree in geography with a focus in cartography I really am amazed at this guys skills and attention to detail.
@Dan Gander what tape measure would you use underwater in a cave with flow(most caves) because any that i can think of wouldn’t be perfectly straight end to end due to flow unless you had multiple tie offs along the line to keep it steady thus making your measurements using that line inaccurate. and if you think about it he can see perfectly clear in the water he has mapped and most caves are springs which means good water clearity if not kicking up a ton of silt. So measuring half a meter at a time would be better since he can clearly see if the line he is using to measure is straight or not. And i dont have a degree in geography thats just my common sense.
@Dan Gander I’m not an underwater cave cartographer most all of the maps I have made have been done so above water so I’m not sure what kind of limitations he has. I would assume that because of potentially bad visibility he wouldn’t want to have to rely on being able to see to determine distance. It could also be a comfortable measurement for him to quickly move along with. I have had to go so far as using my steps to measure distance and then calculate it based off of the measurement of my steps and how many I had to take (for small distances) with using digital methods (again because I have only made surface maps) like ArcMap I can determine almost any distance with a relatively low margin of error. I’m also not sure of his requirements for the maps, I have made maps that have said you can have a tolerance of plus or minus 1 foot, which means I could only be off by 1 foot because of the maps potential use for construction projects. There’s a lot of information to take down when you are trying to measure something like this let alone to map it in great detail like this and to determine a scale.
He uses the string because it is quick, easy , accurate and inexpensive. No need to "Fix something that isn't broken" or reinvent the wheel . He is sketching and taking notes as he moves through the cave . While also doing everything that goes along with CAVE DIVING.
@@bltn7469 To my understanding he follow the line while measuring and he takes notes of depth and direction at intersections. Should gives him a pretty good 3d map and he can always correct it with other measures. Like if he knows he unrolled 1000ft of ropes and counted 1050ft he can remove 5% to adjust. Just calculated and if he count with a 1ft ropes, with an error of 1/2" he is only off by 44ft.
Amazing! This is one of your best ones. Both you guys look like kids meeting Santa when talking to him. As if I needed more inspiration to become a cave diver
While I can appreciate the art of doing things “the old fashion way”, I think his work would be so much easier if he would just used these cave mapping drones! th-cam.com/video/yO-eduvo904/w-d-xo.html 😉 He can thank me later! I checked out his channel and Subscribed! I’ve always wondered how the heck caves are accurately mapped! Never mind underwater caves! I can only guess that there’s only a handful of people on earth talented enough & crazy enough to not only map these caves, but he has to a be a cave explorer at the same time! Big respect 🤙🏻!
The Dos Ojos system he is talking about towards the end is one of the areas in potential danger from the Tren Maya project, and it is very close to Dos Palmas. You've seen how beautiful those caves are! If you guys know people in the area with knowledge of that project and what can be done to protect the caves from it, it'd be great to give them some space and get the word out. Loved this video!!!
This is unfortunately very true and the map has been handed over to someone close to the landowners in the Dos Ojos region so that they can better understand the cave system beneath their property.
Rory's work is absolutely fantastic. And Under The Jungle (UTJ) definitely deliver some of the best cave training that exist (and you can see it on video).
What a humble guy, he is truly skilled. The most stress is naming a room! Lol I would be stressed not knowing what’s ahead. Then he gives the maps away for free. One of a kind type of guy. I subscribed to his channel! I found this so fascinating. Great topic guy’s. Woody was blown away and giddy like a kid! I think he smiled the entire interview. Great questions and answers. It would be neat to see the Dive Talk guys taking the mapping class. Should we look forward to this in the future? I sure hope so. Thanks for this one it’s super cool.
Holy shit! Rory should definitely be getting paid for his amazing work. The maps are beautiful as art, not just for navigating caves. I'm so glad you guys shared his video and I hope his YT channel and website blow up. I just subscribed!
Many of the Mexican cenotes have been mapped to amazing detail by people like him. Such hard work. I had a chat with some of them while I was cave training and was damn impressed by their skill.
Seems like Woody might have missed the part where Rory said once he starts a mapping project that is the ONLY place he dives until it is finished. Lol. Woody might get bored diving in only one place for over a year. I could be wrong though. Imagine how long it would have taken him to map the 11km if he still went diving other places every weekend and didn't treat it like a job. Excellent video guys. Thanks for introducing us to Rory.
@@surveydown Everything worth doing is worth doing well and you are obviously do this very well. It certainly helps to be doing something that one enjoys as well. Be safe and keep up the good work.
@@QuiteZer0 To be accurate, this cave is just a small part of the biggest underwater cave system in the world. He only mapped 11 km, the system itself has over 370 km discovered so far.
11kms - a ruler and a half at a time - meticulous, calm & focused. I know nothing about diving, but I know about arduous work for the love of it with small credits. Someone needs to reward this man handsomely for his amazing work. Great discussion, great info - thanks guys!
This was awesome! I just love you guys, you’re entertaining, educational and adventurous… the epitome of what makes life and learning fun! Thank you for these videos! Rory’s a badass just casually out there perfecting the art of cave mapping, a legend in the making!
This man is really helping to create a new industry. It's something so overlooked but extremely important. Crazy how many opportunities learning the skill of diving opens up. I hope divers like this guy can really make a good living off of exceptional skills like these, because i find it crazy he does this all for free and out of his own pocket. It's a beautiful thing though.👏🏽
This was an incredibly interesting interview. Rory is definitely a master and is so humble to top it off. I could easily watch a couple more hours of him talking about what/how he does what he does and fielding more questions. The main question that I have now is, what could Rory achieve with a LIDAR or RADAR scanner? I am sure it would change how he goes about mapping caves but it seems like a time saver and would be much more accurate. Not that there is anything wrong with how he currently does it. Hopefully he and his channel get the recognition that he deserves. It could open up some opportunities for him when it comes to sponsorships (ie diving gear, a scanner system of some type) or maybe working with scientists on academically funded projects. Thanks Rory for taking the time to come on the show and answer questions. Big thanks to Gus and Woody for finding this guy. You guys have outdone yourselves once again. Have a good weekend everyone.
Hi Cody, great question! I actually had the opportunity to assist on a research project that used LIDAR to scan a section of the cave in cenote Tajma Ha a few years ago and.. it worked! The researcher succesfully made a detailed 3D model of the cave. Now, the laser was something like $45,000 USD and required a tether to the surface for power, so not quite within my budget, but the technology is there and it does work!
@@surveydown that's awesome you had the opportunity to do that. I am sure it was fascinating. I figured those scanners were expensive but I didn't realize they were that expensive. Hopefully the price will come down in years to come and you will be able to get one. Good luck on your upcoming projects and adventures! Thank you for taking the time to respond.
I knew this would be super fun from the get-go and I'm not disappointed. Rory seems like an incredibly skilled, passionate and kind-hearted guy, and Dive Talk is a gift that keeps on giving.
Think of how many lives that have been saved due to cave mapping. That helps divers know where NOT to go. For him to give of his time and talent simply for the benefit of others (and without pay) is beyond measure. What a truly awesome person!
This is why y’all are blowing up. Y’all are so kind and bring attention to smaller great creatives/ artist/ divers etc and thats a hard thing to come by! 💗💗💗
I really enjoy your show, all of it…the banter, the stopping of the video to comment, Woody’s commentary, the “pointer” on the screen, all of it! If the video wasn’t stopped and explanations given, I wouldn’t have a clue as to what was happening or what I should be looking at or looking for. Diving is so interesting, thank you!
Wow Rory's work is incredible! I don't know much about cave diving other than watching this channel but it looked like he was flying in those caves :o beautiful! Thanks for interviewing him :) I'll go subscribe to him now!
@Dan Gander Not a cave driver but I think the issue becomes when you are using longer measuring ropes, they either become too long for one person to use easily and that they become a hazard that you can get tangled in. Also Rory said in the interview that when he was using a meter long measuring rope, it was hard for him to use in tight spaces. Makes sense that you can't fully extend your arms when your stomach and back are pressed up against the floor and ceiling.
There is nothing hard about maintaining neutral buoyancy whilst writing on wet notes etc. This really is a basic skill. I was taught this as one of my early skills. I know organisations who expect their trainees as part of their practical test to be able to lay line surveying as they go with correct distances and bearings, along with depth etc and to be able to produce an accurate survey. Whilst doing this the examiner will generally blindfold you as where we are vis is generally nil so you need to know how to do this and will also test task loading by shutting off a cylinder etc. I have marker tags on all my lines so I know distances and don't have to use string along the line to measure makes it far easier.
So... I can't stay at one level in a pool much less anywhere with current. Just sayin. I don't dive but like once when I was 19 I achieved perfect buoyancy for about 15 seconds.
This has gotta be one of the raddest technical videos you guys have made; I've always wanted to know about how it is (or was) done. It was particularly impressive that he was still using what could be considered "old school" techniques (aside from the technology used for generating the final maps); measuring by hand, drawing sketches that are overlaid with the line maps - it's a technique that would've been just as viable 100 years ago. At first I was sure that all modern cave mapping would've just been done using underwater 3D scanning/mapping technology whereby a diver swims through while holding a recording device. A lot would be done with the latest technology, obviously, but this is just WAY cooler.
Wow what a delightfully unassuming guy Rory is. He's a real talented guy. I hope that this goes viral. He deserves to be recognised, it's great to see his generosity. The thought of you guys assisting him is creating some hilarious images. 👍 for promoting him👏🤗👍
I'm not a diver. I'm not a cave explorer. I'm not a dive cave explorer. However, I'm astonished by it all and a recent fan to watching dive talk and this amazing man Rory. I subscribed to his channel too. This has become one of my favorite channels to watch. You guys rock. Amazing interview as well
I wonder if Rory has experimented with photogrammetry. I have been using it to make a terrain map of the property here. Basically you take a bunch of photos of the same things from several angles and process the photos through computer software. The output is a 3D point cloud colored with the photos you took, so it is sort of like having a 3D photograph. I don't think it is accurate enough for the initial stick map and the output wouldn't be ideal to take on a dive, but I think it would help with drawing the details and you might be able to sell VR cave tours to non-cave divers or as preparation to diving a new cave. I use free Linux software to do it.
I tried and failed! A few divers have successfully used photogrammetry in caves but mainly just to document specific objects or features. It is something that I would like to experiment with more in the future though!
This is exactly what I was thinking, some variation of this technology could be adapted for underwater purpose and it would alleviate the manual work needed to done.
Cartography is an art form as well as a practical necessity.You both enjoyed doing this,it's obvious! Enthusiasm is catching!I have subbed his channel.Ryan rules!
@@HRM.H -beauty and practicality!I love even reprints of THE WORLD"showing how countries have changed borders or names over the centuries.Genuinely fascinating!
That’s amazing. I will never need one of your maps Rory but I’m still gonna subscribe because I still find it very interesting. He is very talented and deserves to have a bigger channel, I’m so glad you guys put him on here and hope he gets the exposure he deserves
omg this was brilliant! Rory is so cool! I would love to watch more footage of Rory doing his job! Great stuff! Gus, Woody, we need a vid of you doing a class for this!
Such a great video guys.. You shed light on something someone did that no one really would get the gist of how much work was done. This is great work mapping out these caves.
Rory is a great guy, not only mapping the caves but also making them available for free, so cave divers can have a *DETAILED* map. The dude is doing amazing work and deserves several accolades, possibly all of them. Without a doubt in my mind, those maps will help save lives.
I personally *loved* hearing how he collected the measurement data and then made a 2nd pass for the shape details and more in-person human perceived details of each section, and then I also loved him going into his software flow! I'm not even a diver, but I kinda want one of his mal art prints!
How the hell does he only have 30 something subs????? Thank you guys for giving him the attention he deserves, imma give him a sub. What amazing work he’s doing , the level of detail is actually insane
This is incredible to see. Makes me really excited to get certified. Did a little research last night and realized Seaventures is only 2 hours from me in Augusta. I may be reaching out soon!
You guys inspired the heck out of me. 2 local spots here everyone regularly dives and there’s not a good map for any of them. You have to reach out to friends of friends that are working on something. It’s not caving, but it’s still something to give to my community. Good stuff everyone. Props to Rory
What an incredibly humble guy, what a great interview and thanks to you two another thoroughly entertaining video!! Just wondering surely maps of the detail that Rory’s producing could help to reduce the number of accidents if people had a more thorough understanding of that caves layout?
Thanks guys! You two are the best! I love Woodys hats and how serious Gus is...lol....you both go together like peanut butter and jelly. Would love to sit down and pick your brains and here all your awesome stories! Thanks again for all the laughs and knowledge and so taking us along your journeys...where ever you go. I've learned so much! Hugs from Tennessee
I would love it if you guys could ask him about 3D cameras/scanners, underwater drones, or other tech. Can or have they been used for mapping underwater caves and how can that improve and speed up his mapping process?
Cave divers that trained and have a lot of experience in Mexico are known for having excellent trim and buoyancy control by having to master control diving the highly decorated caves with zero flow. Florida cave divers get away hiding poor trim and buoyancy in the high flow conditions.
Great video as always guys well done! I love when you bring people on to the show, the video where Gus surprises Woody with a guest was the start of something great.
my brother got really into diving he loves it and hes great at it but i recommended your channel to him now he cant stop watching your videos hahaha he travels a lot so i don't get to see him much but when he stopped by the other day we got some beers and binged your videos as diving and the ocean is all he seems to be interested in ...bless him thanks for bringing us together...much love
Hey guys, love your videos so much! I’ve never been cave diving but as a young child I had a habit of running into caves and exploring them. So I was wondering what would happen if there was an earthquake while you were down in a big cave area or even a tight tunnel. I think it would be really cool to get a video about what you would do in that situation, and react to other stories about people in this situation. Love you guys so much!
Awe I hate to see he stopped uploading to his channel a yr ago. ☹️ One thing I've always admired about most geniuses is how humble they seem to be. His work blew me away & I'm not even a diver. To offer such gifted, skilled & intricately detailed hardwork for free proves how passionate he is about his projects. Mad respect to Rory O'Keefe 👊 & @Dive Talk for always uploading such awesome video's & interviews. 🙌
You probably won't catch this message, but just so you know, I am starting PADI courses in a month or so, JUST because of you two. That's how inspiring you are. Thank you.
Just insane !!! Woody & Gus you guys are killing it !!! I see you guys the best diving channel just amazing content you guy definitely going to do this full time you will see !!!
Gus, I just have to say, you've made SO much progress within the last 2 years with getting fit. I can only imagine the amount of work it's taken! I hope you're proud!! 👏
LOVE that you shared Rory, his work and his channel - I just went and subscribed! ❤ WOW! I 'm not alone in hoping Rory uploads more videos (and longer!) - I frequently wonder WHO explores and maps these caves - scary (to me) not knowing what's ahead. I know the "not knowing what's ahead" is precisely what energizes you all, but I think I'll just enjoy it vicariously from the comfort of my home!! ❤
So actually most cave exploration is done solo. The reason being that a "buddy" is more likely to be risk => more siltout; difficult conditions; you can't really communicate anyway because it rains rocks. Not all explo is done that way, but a fair amount. And same for very advanced sidemount (where you go no mount) you can have planned team separation of like 3-5 min, you even dive without a long hose (they present an entanglement point), and sharing gas would be impossible anyway in many restrictions of this type of diving.
I could guess regarding the ending discussion of where to find maps, that just like in dry caving, where maps are usually available @ local grottos for the protection of the caves, that's maybe the way it's on cave diving, but that's just a thought.. I think just admiring maps of either dry or underwater caves is great and any resource on the internet if it exists it would be great for perservation purposes to be honest..
Just subbed him even tho I have no intention of caving or even diving ever. I appreciate his commitment to excellence and his public mindedness, contributing to diver safety.
Great video guys exposing such a remarkable guy…. I’m going back to every past video and I love them all.. thank you for your contribution… I’m only a beginner cave diver .. and I’m hooked… and I dived dos Pamas in Mexico in january and pretty sure his map is at the main entrance
I love cartography. It was up there in my list of careers. And it and GIS courses are fun. Never thought about doing underwater cave maps though. Incredible.
Thank you Gus and Woody for supporting my work! It is greatly appreciated and I had a lot of fun getting to know you guys and your awesome community of divers!
Gained yourself a sub here. Absolutely incredible work man, I’ve got shivers. The most amazing thing is that your work will help many other cave divers to come. Thanks to dive talk for bringing you to our attention!
Literally a legend. Keep it up bro!
Rory, you definitely are skilled at diving and cartography, I would like to know why you prefer to do it the old fashioned way, instead of using a 3D ultrasonic scanner (that would drastically increase the accuracy of each little feature and cut down the man hours considerably?)
Hopefully the views and TH-cam Ad money finds its way to your Channel,
✌️ From 🇨🇦
@@ajcook7777 I do honestly enjoy just mapping caves with a pencil and paper - its kind of my art. And my budget is more in the range of "should I dive nitrox or air?" 😅
Thank you so much for coming on! Even as someone who has never gone diving I found it really interesting!
Gus: “I wanna be a part of this team. Ill hold the line, ill hold the string…”
Woody: “ill hold his fins”
I love woody😭😭
As an artist I just wanted to say how incredible this guy is! The amount of effort and work that he puts into his craft is truly inspiring. His maps are beautiful!
I always love Woody’s enthusiasm. Also as someone who has a degree in geography with a focus in cartography I really am amazed at this guys skills and attention to detail.
@Dan Gander you're goofy
@Dan Gander what tape measure would you use underwater in a cave with flow(most caves) because any that i can think of wouldn’t be perfectly straight end to end due to flow unless you had multiple tie offs along the line to keep it steady thus making your measurements using that line inaccurate. and if you think about it he can see perfectly clear in the water he has mapped and most caves are springs which means good water clearity if not kicking up a ton of silt. So measuring half a meter at a time would be better since he can clearly see if the line he is using to measure is straight or not. And i dont have a degree in geography thats just my common sense.
@Dan Gander I’m not an underwater cave cartographer most all of the maps I have made have been done so above water so I’m not sure what kind of limitations he has. I would assume that because of potentially bad visibility he wouldn’t want to have to rely on being able to see to determine distance. It could also be a comfortable measurement for him to quickly move along with. I have had to go so far as using my steps to measure distance and then calculate it based off of the measurement of my steps and how many I had to take (for small distances) with using digital methods (again because I have only made surface maps) like ArcMap I can determine almost any distance with a relatively low margin of error. I’m also not sure of his requirements for the maps, I have made maps that have said you can have a tolerance of plus or minus 1 foot, which means I could only be off by 1 foot because of the maps potential use for construction projects. There’s a lot of information to take down when you are trying to measure something like this let alone to map it in great detail like this and to determine a scale.
He uses the string because it is quick, easy , accurate and inexpensive. No need to "Fix something that isn't broken" or reinvent the wheel . He is sketching and taking notes as he moves through the cave . While also doing everything that goes along with CAVE DIVING.
@@bltn7469 To my understanding he follow the line while measuring and he takes notes of depth and direction at intersections.
Should gives him a pretty good 3d map and he can always correct it with other measures. Like if he knows he unrolled 1000ft of ropes and counted 1050ft he can remove 5% to adjust.
Just calculated and if he count with a 1ft ropes, with an error of 1/2" he is only off by 44ft.
Rory is the perfect example of a master of their craft.
Amazing! This is one of your best ones. Both you guys look like kids meeting Santa when talking to him. As if I needed more inspiration to become a cave diver
While I can appreciate the art of doing things “the old fashion way”, I think his work would be so much easier if he would just used these cave mapping drones! th-cam.com/video/yO-eduvo904/w-d-xo.html
😉 He can thank me later! I checked out his channel and Subscribed! I’ve always wondered how the heck caves are accurately mapped! Never mind underwater caves! I can only guess that there’s only a handful of people on earth talented enough & crazy enough to not only map these caves, but he has to a be a cave explorer at the same time! Big respect 🤙🏻!
@@dwmueller76 Unfortunately all of the handheld cave mapping guns were lost on Prometheus. 😁
His diving skills look amazing. It looks like he's somewhere out in space on a no-gravity planet!
I was thinking the same thing he looked like an astronaut.
Rory is simply amazing, that is an insane amount of detail and work. I'm absolutely baffled.
The Dos Ojos system he is talking about towards the end is one of the areas in potential danger from the Tren Maya project, and it is very close to Dos Palmas. You've seen how beautiful those caves are! If you guys know people in the area with knowledge of that project and what can be done to protect the caves from it, it'd be great to give them some space and get the word out. Loved this video!!!
This is unfortunately very true and the map has been handed over to someone close to the landowners in the Dos Ojos region so that they can better understand the cave system beneath their property.
Guillermo! Were you our guide on the batcave circuit last week? That was one of my favorite dives ever.
Rory's work is absolutely fantastic. And Under The Jungle (UTJ) definitely deliver some of the best cave training that exist (and you can see it on video).
I can attest to that!!!
What a humble guy, he is truly skilled. The most stress is naming a room! Lol I would be stressed not knowing what’s ahead. Then he gives the maps away for free. One of a kind type of guy. I subscribed to his channel!
I found this so fascinating. Great topic guy’s. Woody was blown away and giddy like a kid! I think he smiled the entire interview. Great questions and answers.
It would be neat to see the Dive Talk guys taking the mapping class. Should we look forward to this in the future? I sure hope so. Thanks for this one it’s super cool.
Holy shit! Rory should definitely be getting paid for his amazing work. The maps are beautiful as art, not just for navigating caves. I'm so glad you guys shared his video and I hope his YT channel and website blow up. I just subscribed!
I'm thinking about buying an art piece from him to help support him. He absolutely should get paid for this. A LOT 🖤 💙
@@penelope-oe2vr great idea, I think I will as well!
Many of the Mexican cenotes have been mapped to amazing detail by people like him. Such hard work. I had a chat with some of them while I was cave training and was damn impressed by their skill.
Seems like Woody might have missed the part where Rory said once he starts a mapping project that is the ONLY place he dives until it is finished. Lol. Woody might get bored diving in only one place for over a year. I could be wrong though.
Imagine how long it would have taken him to map the 11km if he still went diving other places every weekend and didn't treat it like a job.
Excellent video guys. Thanks for introducing us to Rory.
It is one of the most difficult parts of mapping! I've had to pass on a lot of interesting projects but its worth it in the end :)
@@surveydown Everything worth doing is worth doing well and you are obviously do this very well. It certainly helps to be doing something that one enjoys as well.
Be safe and keep up the good work.
You also have to take into account that yes it was a year and a half spent on that cave but it is also the biggest known underwater cave in the world.
And most caves aren’t even a 1/4 of that size
@@QuiteZer0 To be accurate, this cave is just a small part of the biggest underwater cave system in the world. He only mapped 11 km, the system itself has over 370 km discovered so far.
11kms - a ruler and a half at a time - meticulous, calm & focused. I know nothing about diving, but I know about arduous work for the love of it with small credits. Someone needs to reward this man handsomely for his amazing work. Great discussion, great info - thanks guys!
This was awesome! I just love you guys, you’re entertaining, educational and adventurous… the epitome of what makes life and learning fun! Thank you for these videos! Rory’s a badass just casually out there perfecting the art of cave mapping, a legend in the making!
This man is really helping to create a new industry. It's something so overlooked but extremely important. Crazy how many opportunities learning the skill of diving opens up. I hope divers like this guy can really make a good living off of exceptional skills like these, because i find it crazy he does this all for free and out of his own pocket. It's a beautiful thing though.👏🏽
Rory O’Keefe is a Master, an artist and a genius! So modest as well. What a fascinating interview
This guy makes really useful artwork. I would display an underwater cave map on my wall, specially with that quality
This was an incredibly interesting interview. Rory is definitely a master and is so humble to top it off. I could easily watch a couple more hours of him talking about what/how he does what he does and fielding more questions.
The main question that I have now is, what could Rory achieve with a LIDAR or RADAR scanner? I am sure it would change how he goes about mapping caves but it seems like a time saver and would be much more accurate. Not that there is anything wrong with how he currently does it. Hopefully he and his channel get the recognition that he deserves. It could open up some opportunities for him when it comes to sponsorships (ie diving gear, a scanner system of some type) or maybe working with scientists on academically funded projects.
Thanks Rory for taking the time to come on the show and answer questions. Big thanks to Gus and Woody for finding this guy. You guys have outdone yourselves once again. Have a good weekend everyone.
Hi Cody, great question! I actually had the opportunity to assist on a research project that used LIDAR to scan a section of the cave in cenote Tajma Ha a few years ago and.. it worked! The researcher succesfully made a detailed 3D model of the cave. Now, the laser was something like $45,000 USD and required a tether to the surface for power, so not quite within my budget, but the technology is there and it does work!
@@surveydown that's awesome you had the opportunity to do that. I am sure it was fascinating.
I figured those scanners were expensive but I didn't realize they were that expensive. Hopefully the price will come down in years to come and you will be able to get one.
Good luck on your upcoming projects and adventures! Thank you for taking the time to respond.
I knew this would be super fun from the get-go and I'm not disappointed.
Rory seems like an incredibly skilled, passionate and kind-hearted guy, and Dive Talk is a gift that keeps on giving.
Think of how many lives that have been saved due to cave mapping. That helps divers know where NOT to go. For him to give of his time and talent simply for the benefit of others (and without pay) is beyond measure. What a truly awesome person!
His skill level is definitely on another level. That's amazing
All these years and I’ve finally got the wife onboard with diving as a family. Glad I got yalls info and hard work to look back on for support
This is why y’all are blowing up. Y’all are so kind and bring attention to smaller great creatives/ artist/ divers etc and thats a hard thing to come by! 💗💗💗
I really enjoy your show, all of it…the banter, the stopping of the video to comment, Woody’s commentary, the “pointer” on the screen, all of it! If the video wasn’t stopped and explanations given, I wouldn’t have a clue as to what was happening or what I should be looking at or looking for. Diving is so interesting, thank you!
Wow Rory's work is incredible! I don't know much about cave diving other than watching this channel but it looked like he was flying in those caves :o beautiful! Thanks for interviewing him :) I'll go subscribe to him now!
What an interesting video. Who woulda thought it was still such a manually involved process.
@Dan Gander Not a cave driver but I think the issue becomes when you are using longer measuring ropes, they either become too long for one person to use easily and that they become a hazard that you can get tangled in. Also Rory said in the interview that when he was using a meter long measuring rope, it was hard for him to use in tight spaces. Makes sense that you can't fully extend your arms when your stomach and back are pressed up against the floor and ceiling.
You guys need to help get him rebreather certified!!
Wow this is incredible, great interview. This guy has to be the best in the world at this craft what a master. Definitely deserves major recognition!
I'm not a diver but I love the show. Can you explain why it is so impressive that he hovers while he writes? Is it hard to stay in place in the water?
Yes. It takes years to master that skill.
There is nothing hard about maintaining neutral buoyancy whilst writing on wet notes etc. This really is a basic skill. I was taught this as one of my early skills.
I know organisations who expect their trainees as part of their practical test to be able to lay line surveying as they go with correct distances and bearings, along with depth etc and to be able to produce an accurate survey. Whilst doing this the examiner will generally blindfold you as where we are vis is generally nil so you need to know how to do this and will also test task loading by shutting off a cylinder etc.
I have marker tags on all my lines so I know distances and don't have to use string along the line to measure makes it far easier.
So... I can't stay at one level in a pool much less anywhere with current.
Just sayin. I don't dive but like once when I was 19 I achieved perfect buoyancy for about 15 seconds.
What an awesome and humble human 👏 Props to you guys for finding these incredibly talented people 💎 Thank you!
This has gotta be one of the raddest technical videos you guys have made; I've always wanted to know about how it is (or was) done. It was particularly impressive that he was still using what could be considered "old school" techniques (aside from the technology used for generating the final maps); measuring by hand, drawing sketches that are overlaid with the line maps - it's a technique that would've been just as viable 100 years ago. At first I was sure that all modern cave mapping would've just been done using underwater 3D scanning/mapping technology whereby a diver swims through while holding a recording device. A lot would be done with the latest technology, obviously, but this is just WAY cooler.
Absolutely subscribed to Rory, that was amazing!! Thank you for finding him and leading me there!
Wow what a delightfully unassuming guy Rory is. He's a real talented guy. I hope that this goes viral. He deserves to be recognised, it's great to see his generosity. The thought of you guys assisting him is creating some hilarious images. 👍 for promoting him👏🤗👍
I'm not a diver. I'm not a cave explorer. I'm not a dive cave explorer. However, I'm astonished by it all and a recent fan to watching dive talk and this amazing man Rory. I subscribed to his channel too. This has become one of my favorite channels to watch. You guys rock. Amazing interview as well
You guys all just make the same comment in hopes of getting pinned or the most likes. It’s pathetic. Be yourself !
@@dylanmounsey7515 this was my first comment ever on this page...
I wonder if Rory has experimented with photogrammetry. I have been using it to make a terrain map of the property here. Basically you take a bunch of photos of the same things from several angles and process the photos through computer software. The output is a 3D point cloud colored with the photos you took, so it is sort of like having a 3D photograph. I don't think it is accurate enough for the initial stick map and the output wouldn't be ideal to take on a dive, but I think it would help with drawing the details and you might be able to sell VR cave tours to non-cave divers or as preparation to diving a new cave. I use free Linux software to do it.
I tried and failed! A few divers have successfully used photogrammetry in caves but mainly just to document specific objects or features. It is something that I would like to experiment with more in the future though!
This is exactly what I was thinking, some variation of this technology could be adapted for underwater purpose and it would alleviate the manual work needed to done.
Woody looks like a shy 13 year old boy meeting his crush for the first time. He’s literally blushing.
Watching all Rory's work on instagram was amazing. Such an awesome look into how much effort goes into this stuff!
Peter Sprouse is AMAZING! He has done EXTENSIVE work in Mexico. Rory learned from a master! Great job.
He really is! I would NOT know how to do any of this if it weren't for Peter.
Cartography is an art form as well as a practical necessity.You both enjoyed doing this,it's obvious! Enthusiasm is catching!I have subbed his channel.Ryan rules!
Or even Rory 🤣
Vintage cartography is some of my favorite art to collect. Stunning pieces of work.
@@HRM.H -beauty and practicality!I love even reprints of THE WORLD"showing how countries have changed borders or names over the centuries.Genuinely fascinating!
@S M my edit function is on strike tho brand new phone!!
That’s amazing. I will never need one of your maps Rory but I’m still gonna subscribe because I still find it very interesting. He is very talented and deserves to have a bigger channel, I’m so glad you guys put him on here and hope he gets the exposure he deserves
omg this was brilliant! Rory is so cool! I would love to watch more footage of Rory doing his job! Great stuff! Gus, Woody, we need a vid of you doing a class for this!
Cartography is so fascinating to me and this is just a whole other level!! Thank you guys for highlighting Rory’s work. What a talent!
Honestly this was probably the most interesting, wholesome, and informative video I've ever seen
Such a great video guys.. You shed light on something someone did that no one really would get the gist of how much work was done. This is great work mapping out these caves.
Cool video! I'm not a cave diver, but this was really fascinating. I've always wondered how caves were mapped.
The environment alone in these caves just looks so mysterious and alienated. I can’t wait to start diving
Gus is so creative on how he does the surprise guests. Really great episode. 👍🏻
This video is HILARIOUS you guys are drooling. Guys listen to me when I say ," I can't stop watching your videos!!!!!" You guys are addicting.
Rory is a great guy, not only mapping the caves but also making them available for free, so cave divers can have a *DETAILED* map. The dude is doing amazing work and deserves several accolades, possibly all of them. Without a doubt in my mind, those maps will help save lives.
I personally *loved* hearing how he collected the measurement data and then made a 2nd pass for the shape details and more in-person human perceived details of each section, and then I also loved him going into his software flow! I'm not even a diver, but I kinda want one of his mal art prints!
How the hell does he only have 30 something subs????? Thank you guys for giving him the attention he deserves, imma give him a sub. What amazing work he’s doing , the level of detail is actually insane
This is incredible to see. Makes me really excited to get certified. Did a little research last night and realized Seaventures is only 2 hours from me in Augusta. I may be reaching out soon!
What an amazingly driven person! Truly awesome work.
You guys inspired the heck out of me. 2 local spots here everyone regularly dives and there’s not a good map for any of them. You have to reach out to friends of friends that are working on something.
It’s not caving, but it’s still something to give to my community. Good stuff everyone. Props to Rory
Damn this guy is so humble and sweet about his work .. gosh .. I guess that’s what passion looks like.
What an incredibly humble guy, what a great interview and thanks to you two another thoroughly entertaining video!!
Just wondering surely maps of the detail that Rory’s producing could help to reduce the number of accidents if people had a more thorough understanding of that caves layout?
Yaya! New dive talk! Can't wait to try scuba for the first time this summer at Sea Ventures!
Thanks guys! You two are the best! I love Woodys hats and how serious Gus is...lol....you both go together like peanut butter and jelly. Would love to sit down and pick your brains and here all your awesome stories! Thanks again for all the laughs and knowledge and so taking us along your journeys...where ever you go. I've learned so much! Hugs from Tennessee
Hooray Rory! I always thought the work you do is amazing. Even the ship dives sounded so cool
I would love it if you guys could ask him about 3D cameras/scanners, underwater drones, or other tech. Can or have they been used for mapping underwater caves and how can that improve and speed up his mapping process?
...so Gus is the kid in class that we all sigh at because he keeps raising his hand and asking questions lmao
Cave divers that trained and have a lot of experience in Mexico are known for having excellent trim and buoyancy control by having to master control diving the highly decorated caves with zero flow. Florida cave divers get away hiding poor trim and buoyancy in the high flow conditions.
What does trim mean?
Great video as always guys well done! I love when you bring people on to the show, the video where Gus surprises Woody with a guest was the start of something great.
I think this is the only video i’ve seen that either of you have not stopped, and simply enjoyed.
This blew me away... Great job! I want to learn to do this now too!
Woody speechless is priceless. Rory is amazing. What a process! Thank you for sharing this with us!
Natalie Gibbs is a legend in cave diving. Surprised they don’t know who she is
Cool! Just got off work and need to chill. Thanks guys! Y'all's videos are awesome.
my brother got really into diving he loves it and hes great at it but i recommended your channel to him now he cant stop watching your videos hahaha he travels a lot so i don't get to see him much but when he stopped by the other day we got some beers and binged your videos as diving and the ocean is all he seems to be interested in ...bless him thanks for bringing us together...much love
Hey guys, love your videos so much! I’ve never been cave diving but as a young child I had a habit of running into caves and exploring them. So I was wondering what would happen if there was an earthquake while you were down in a big cave area or even a tight tunnel. I think it would be really cool to get a video about what you would do in that situation, and react to other stories about people in this situation. Love you guys so much!
I'm not a diver but you guys always make my day better just listening to you! Thank you for the great content and the great lessons you provide!
I love how he's so nonchalant about His work .
That cave looked amazing and the maps too!
Please try to get out to Mexico this summer to do at least one dive with Rory!! That would be awesome!
Rory comes off really humble while being a master of something so intricate. My ego would be out of control if I was that skilled.
This channel is growing so fast! Glad I found this gem of a YT channel
Awe I hate to see he stopped uploading to his channel a yr ago. ☹️
One thing I've always admired about most geniuses is how humble they seem to be. His work blew me away & I'm not even a diver. To offer such gifted, skilled & intricately detailed hardwork for free proves how passionate he is about his projects. Mad respect to Rory O'Keefe 👊 & @Dive Talk for always uploading such awesome video's & interviews. 🙌
Wow what an amazing person Rory is to do such beautiful work.
You probably won't catch this message, but just so you know, I am starting PADI courses in a month or so, JUST because of you two. That's how inspiring you are. Thank you.
Wow!!! He’s the Jedi Master of Cave Diving!!! Thank you for sharing this with us! Simply awesome.
Just insane !!! Woody & Gus you guys are killing it !!! I see you guys the best diving channel just amazing content you guy definitely going to do this full time you will see !!!
Wow, that's some great mapping skills! Looking forward for your maps.
Gus, I just have to say, you've made SO much progress within the last 2 years with getting fit. I can only imagine the amount of work it's taken! I hope you're proud!! 👏
LOVE that you shared Rory, his work and his channel - I just went and subscribed! ❤ WOW! I 'm not alone in hoping Rory uploads more videos (and longer!) - I frequently wonder WHO explores and maps these caves - scary (to me) not knowing what's ahead. I know the "not knowing what's ahead" is precisely what energizes you all, but I think I'll just enjoy it vicariously from the comfort of my home!! ❤
I don't even dive, but this channel is so interesting and entertaining
How does woody come up with the most interesting questions on the fly. Interviewing people without adequate prep is so hard
This was just sooooo cool. Going to follow him now!❤
I loved this ❤️ envying Rory for his daily work and routine 😊
I want his zen-ness!!!!! He makes it look so peaceful!
Would love a follow up interview with him! Absolutely amazing.
Rory is awesome. His dedication and results show themselves.. Woody is just Bananas, but we still love him too.
the interaction between gus and woody is hilarious
Always love your guys enthusiasm!
He is diving without a buddy? Cave diving is crazy enough this guy is on another level doing it alone and mapping the cave as he explores. Mad shit!
So actually most cave exploration is done solo. The reason being that a "buddy" is more likely to be risk => more siltout; difficult conditions; you can't really communicate anyway because it rains rocks. Not all explo is done that way, but a fair amount.
And same for very advanced sidemount (where you go no mount) you can have planned team separation of like 3-5 min, you even dive without a long hose (they present an entanglement point), and sharing gas would be impossible anyway in many restrictions of this type of diving.
I could guess regarding the ending discussion of where to find maps, that just like in dry caving, where maps are usually available @ local grottos for the protection of the caves, that's maybe the way it's on cave diving, but that's just a thought.. I think just admiring maps of either dry or underwater caves is great and any resource on the internet if it exists it would be great for perservation purposes to be honest..
Just subbed him even tho I have no intention of caving or even diving ever. I appreciate his commitment to excellence and his public mindedness, contributing to diver safety.
Great video guys exposing such a remarkable guy…. I’m going back to every past video and I love them all.. thank you for your contribution… I’m only a beginner cave diver .. and I’m hooked… and I dived dos Pamas in Mexico in january and pretty sure his map is at the main entrance
I love cartography. It was up there in my list of careers. And it and GIS courses are fun. Never thought about doing underwater cave maps though. Incredible.