NVIDIA never saw this coming... A770 & A750 Benchmarks!
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- Intel didn't leave anyone too excited after the lackluser A380 GPU performance... But the A770 is NOT the A380!
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Kinda crazy to see a blue bar on a GPU benchmark. The RGB has been completed!
I was thinking the same thing. Glad im not the only one that thought that.
Mind blown
Now we just need nvidia to start making CPUs
@@solarflea4115 Technically they do. That’s all a GPU is. A CLU with another name and purpose from what I understand 🤔
@@Xilent1 yeah he meant CPU's on x86 architecture.
Happily surprised. Wasn’t expecting that level of performance. Glad to have more competition.
I'm happy with the performance of their 1st gen, but they are shooting themselves in both feet with the bugginess of it all.
Wasnt expecting that level of performance? It's barely competing against low end last gen cards (3050-3060). How could it be worse? Competing against a 2060?
@@4doorsmorewhors These cards are 2 years behind schedule, and they have issues. The performance of their best card is where most volume of cards are bought
@@tIhIngan what does "the performance of their best card is where most volume of cards are bought" mean
@@4doorsmorewhors Most people buy a 3060, 60Ti, 70 or 70Ti. The largest volume of sales is in this bracket.
I love that I watch LTT, GN and Jay for stuff. You get the whole gamut of explanations!
LTT - Shiny production and easy to digest content
GN - Nihilism, cynicism with a glint of hope
J2C - Just winging it like the rest of us and being most palatable for it
If you need cynicism and dark jokes I recommend the channel "Dawid does Tech Stuff" he's hilarious
Arc is a game changer; first gen and it is wiping the floor in RT, and giving AMD and Ngreedier a run for their money in rasterisation. Arc's future looks good 😊
Arc might be good and i'm lookiing forward to next gen - These Arcs perform well and are half the price of Nv.. But they seem to be cheaply made with childs glue and tape....
Youte so easily impressed and pretty naive if ypu think intel has any better business practices.
Its new and you like it. Cool.
@@jmel1000 If the next gens are good, I will definitely switch to arc.
@@prototype8137 intel has been pretty clear about the arc cards downfalls so at least its more honest practices at the moment that may change a couple generations but im happy theres another vender i would like to see more vendors competition is good for the end user like bring back cyrix cpus or 3dfx for gpus
Dunno. Everyone is saying "wait for next gen". Let's hope Intel doesn't burry it when nobody buys this gen.
Trading blows in RT performance with a second generation product as a first generation architecture is really something. Impressive.
Nvidia did get hacked and had their information shared with the world.
@@flexplodin makes sense then.
@@flexplodin arc gpus was in works from 2019, didnt the nvidia hack just happen recently?
@@flexplodin should have some decent Chinese copies of Nvidia cards soon then I hope?
@@iamatlantis1 Look into chip manufacturing. I've been to China. The quality cheap knockoffs don't even make it to shoes or buttons. There are plenty of good shirts.
I will be honest, I am pretty surprised how well they performed at 1440p and with RT and LOVE the minimalist design of the cards.
yeah oh my god if i didn't already had my rx6600 i would for sure wait for Arc just because of aesthetics because oh my god they are so beautiful
@@gustavobeio7535 u would definitely buy a extremely well designed gt 710 too lol
@@shirishvogga6046 lol i think that's pushing waay to far buddy. Well i mean if it was broken beyond repair and sold as scrap for dirty cheap then yeah i would buy it and put it on my shelf as display
Go watch the teardown at the unnamed competitor buddy ... IT'S A FREAKING INTERNAL NIGHTMARE !!! 56 SCREWS....
So thanks so much for the braindead hipster catch word... maybe Apple will hire you....
OMG I hate the constant ogling the hardware crap....
Hey it's a RECTANGLE OMG THIS IS GLORIOUS GLORIOUS!! CALL MICHAELANGELO AND SEND A BITPRO DONATION TO GUGGENHEIM DYNASTY !
@@gustavobeio7535 The drivers are shit aka and in the ati days of 2007 style. Intel has a few years to catch up
I'm really surprised it did that well. It looks like we finally have a 3rd viable competitor now. I'm not in a hurry to go buy it, but IF they continue to do well maybe I'll look at it for their next gen of cards where their platform matures and improves on what they were struggling on with this gen.
Imagine how it's gonna effect prices :)
Especially with the recent shift in the market :D
@@nunyadambidniss affect*
@@JorgetePanete ok Mr english teacher😋😋
@@nunyadambidniss Not if the scalpers have something to say about that.
In my opinion intel allready did a verry good job with their first gpu..Impressive
indeed, very refreshing to see a third competitor already threatening the two giants with their lower tier products. interesting how most titles REBAR being on helps it quite a bit, meaning their memory channels are rather wide and are able to handle the extra bandwidth, but not memory starved as obviously it can be pretty steady for frame times. with the driver uplift that has happened i think we'll see Arc cards on this year's end steam survey somewhere in the center of the list, even more so the A750 even though the A770 is better than Nvidia's 3060 in price.
Looking at the charts I'm actually pretty impressed with their first run at this. Especially with RT on. For the price of the card, being their first go it's pretty crazy how much performance they squeezed out of it.
ikr?
Honestly I was starting to loose faith in Intel, but now I feel like Nvidia is definitely going to feel the hurt as Intel shows them up on the budget market and AMD takes them up on the high end.
I also wonder if Nvidia's CPU launch is going to be just as shoddy as Intel's GPU launch.
but one thing is for certain, the constant team red VS team green high end flexathon is finally dead as team blue will add too many variables for Nvidia and AMD to constantly one-up each other without getting caught out by Intel with GPU's, and the same will happen in the CPU market when Nvidia starts making their own CPU's.
I also really like the idea of having R G B companies competing for R G B gamer attention, especially since we'll soon be able to make a pure AMD/Nvidia/Intel build and get rigs that are much more optimized, much less bottlenecked, and with much clearer pros and cons in various areas of computing be it raw gaming performance, raw production performance, or raw price-performance.
I was seriously surprised at Metro Exodus RT performance. ARC could be a serious contender in the datacentre/workstation GPU compute space within the decade, which makes a ton of sense considering how much money there is in the datacentre accelerator space. However I'm not holding my breath for small businesses and independent creators considering Intel's history with segmenting workstation & server features like ECC & AVX512 behind Xeon. They're very likely to be another Nvidia any moment they can.
Yeah dont be. Watch some other reviews. This GPU is actually very very very VERY bad.
They probably tried to make a much better GPU but couldn't so they cut their losses and lowered the price.
@@NinjAsylum how?
Did not expect it doing so well this early. The ray tracing performance is competing with nvidia and that is a good thing. If they manage to keep up with nvidia in rt then nvidia cant expect a premium on this feature anymore.
Well said, read my mind
Absolutely 👍
I was really surprised how good the RT performance was. Intel launching their first "real" dGPU and already on par with NVIDIA's 2nd gen RT cores. Crazy.
Engineering samples.
@@SpartanArmy117 lol… you forget that we won’t get lower tier 40 series for months? If not a year. They gonna keep the 3000s instead of low tier 40 series
I'm very impressed by what I've seen of these A7xx so far, especially for a 1st gen part, and the price. Plus, we know there's tons of performance just waiting to come out in driver updates. Glad to have a third player in the game!
The hardware is capable. Now it needs the software to back it up. I just came here from GN's review vid, and I do agree with Steve that I need consistency in performance. Once they get that in the bag, they'll definitely be a strong and very much welcomed competitor.
The first generation is the beta anyway. So we have to see if Intel will keep working hard on this. If the second and third generation will improve at a reasonable rate, they will definitely become a competitor. But it wouldn't be the first time Intel just drops a new productline.
This is definitely impressive! They definitely did their work trying to make these cards competitive and at a good price. I've been saying for a while that I WANT Intel to succeed here. Not because I'm a fanboy but because this market needs competition to keep makers honest and prices good for consumers. I am going to buy an A770 for my daughter's computer build I am about to do! Finally PC building is interesting and fun again.
Why would you get your daughter a card that’s gonna give her a lot of bugs and make her life miserable? Mean dad!
@@superstringsbro and it performs terribly in unreal 5 engine
@@superstringsbro ¿Y la de cosas nuevas que va a aprender la niña?.😄😄😄
Maybe if you build it in a couple months it'll be better, but who knows
Same! I've always picked Nivda bc I'm a fan of EVGA. In the coming years, I want AMD or Intel to make a real competitor to Nivda's 70-80s line up if they can do that at a good price I'll be going AMD or intel next upgrade.
I've got mixed feelings. 1) It's awesome to have a 3rd player after so many years (3dfx, Matrox, you're missed). 2) Thank you Jay & Team for the level-headed, non-fanboy data and delivery. Way too many reviewers have lost objectivity and are hating on Intel before having anything (graphically) TO hate on. 3) It's important to take this for what it is: a flawed but decent vital first step. 4) I personally will be getting an A770 because I believe it is crucial to push all three companies to do better not just in performance, but also (and oh so importantly these days) pricing/value.
The old Parhelia days
I'm thinking an a770 would be very good for my sons build. I'm happy to reinforce good moves by intel
Diamond too!
I agree however I’m currently rocking a Fe 3070Ti in the ek block for it. Once intel releases something in the 3080-3090 level AND there is a water block selection out for it I will more then likely get one esp if the price to performance is kept relative to what it is now
He’s shilling them hard. Watch the GN review.
I won't be upgrading my 3080Ti yet but I'm very happy to see another competitor and its mid range results. Thanks Jay and Co.
my view is, if you ahve a 3080ti, an a380 for aux display and the media features makes sense, or even a full a770 depending on your needs.. also the ability to use a VM with arc dedicated gfx interests me... could kickass for encoding video for streaming and uploads, and running side screens without putting any load on the gaming gpu.. thats where they interst most of my friends.. ones running an a380 via passthrew with linux doing cap from games via a dongle that getting passed threw, the encode speeds faster then his 3090ti..
Love to see Intel join the GPU race. Didn't expect them to do THIS good on their "first try" (but obv they have a ton of money they can spend on research and personnel). I want them to succeed simply to have more serious options to choose from and more competition between manufacturers to get the maximum out of their products.
Based on these first impressions. I think Intel GPUs will be like RDNA. The 1st generation will be a viable option that will get better with driver support. Their 2nd generation is probably where they will start to really shine and bring out the stops to be truly competitive.
Let's just hope Intel leadership allows their GPU team the time they need and deserve to develop a flagship product line
@@jkfang the gpu market is surely something intel has been eyeing for a very long time, I highly doubt they’re taking this lightly now that they’re getting into it
@@jkfang I just want to live in a world where 80 class performance costs no more than $700
Yeah but AMD is also winning in price per frame. I may be willing to get a test product if I am getting more value from it. This I am getting worse performance at a higher cost.
@@KirkLazurus The first mistake here is letting Nvidia Marketing dictate your perception of what enthusiast level performance is. As they’ve shown, 80 class can be top of the line in terms of die surface area and perf/watt, or 80 class can be the second to smallest die, with cut down memory bandwidth.
Once drivers issues are ironed out I might seriously consider an intel gpu. I especially like the minimalist design of them.
Seriously though, the looks of these cards are great. I really do not like the “GAMER TIME” look so many cards have nowadays. It’s gross imo. It’s like the Arc cards are “adult”.
@@progenitor_amborella if you buy founders editions for either amd or Nvidia they always look more “adult”. The old Radeon vii had a beautiful boxy minimalist design
If I needed a lower end Card? I'd look at it RIGHT now, because it's one thing I am sure of? Intel's not going to sit on their hands when it comes to driver updates and improvements.
I don't believe in Intel making a good driver, for decades Intel graphics drivers were awful and full of bugs.
I'm getting one for sure here, this is a piece of history
The second those benchmarks popped, that song had me metronome my head like crazy!!!!!
The music you use during benchmark sheets presentations is so good that sometimes I have to go back and read again because I was just feeling it 😅
Very impressive results for launch drivers. I look forward to seeing encoding tests on these new cards! PC hardware is very intriguing right now!
hardware accelerated av5 go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Changing games selection for the benchmark was unfortunate, because other testers also see these cards performing well in Vulkan and DX12 titles, also RT performance is good, but some DX11 games have bad performance and all DX9 titles have terrible performance on these cards, because Intel uses D3D9On12 (Microsoft's emulation library) to emulate DX9 on DX12, so both new Intel cards got worse performance in CS:GO than GTX 780 - 9 years old GPU (sic!).
The drivers still seem barely passable and that’s after a delay of almost a year. I wouldn’t say that’s impressive although I think it looks promising if they keep pushing forward with it and don’t cancel it because of a few bumps in the road.
I see Intel taking some serious ground in the next few years, but at this time it will not do anything to help with the extremely overpriced high end.
The high end and enthusiast segment isn´t where the money is made anyway. So they won´t care much currently imo.
Yea, nothing here is going to hold a candle to Nvidia's top end cards anyway. Time to bite the bullet and realize that despite the high prices and the corporatism, Nvidia is still pretty much the way to go and it's good to stick with them.
Quick response to the unoriginal and expected responses below: No, not everyone is going to buy the 4090 RTX or the bleeding top end card, which, like a Rolls Royce, sells for exponentially more than its objective performance value. On the other hand, gamers can invest in a product line with only the highest standards, and it is the standard bearer of bleeding edge top-of-line performance who sets precedent on the core product line that runs from the 4090 on down to the future 4070. Those who make that investment are placing stock in Nvidia to continue to deliver and push towards farther ends than mediocre, which is currently what AMD has on offer. If AMD's current CPU architecture and lineup are any sign whatsoever as to what portends for its GPU lineup, all I can say is: Best of luck with your rig and let's hope for some modicum of reliability in performance across the benchmarks.
In the interim, if you actually want those prices to come down, your best bet as opposed to running around like a decapitated goose trying to find the best "alternative" is to double down on Nvidia and hedge towards their top end products rather than dilute performance by investing in second-tier equipment. If you're going to actually acknowledge inflation and the cost to develop such high-powered GPUs, you're doing a service to objective performance rather than caving to AMD's pleas to give them a try as they try literally anything they can to edge their way into Nvidia's territory outside of actually producing the best possible cards.
It's basically doing everything to help with the extremely overpriced high end* idk how do you think.
This is a drop in the bucket for Nvidia but it'll add to a lot of things that are coming together into a perfect storm that I don't think they will come out of completely unscathed.
Well done intel! Should start pulling in some dollar
3 way comp for low mid range aka the most profitable area
I just want to acknowledge the easy to read graphs during the benchmark section. The blue/green/red bars made it super easy to view each slide at a glance.
That's pretty impressive, as you said, for a first-gen effort from Intel. I'll be carefully watching where things go from here, in particular the A900 series because I have a 3070 right now. One of those might be a good fit for my son's PC. And he's running an Intel CPU setup.
If I recall the Intel guys on one of either Steve's or Linus' video there will not be an A900, but there could be a 900 range for the B generation, a B900 would be awesome especially if they can keep the pricing as competitive
It's not enough to make me go Team Blue just yet as I go for the xx70-xx80 range but seeing them come out with a competitive offering on the first generation makes me very optimistic when looking at the future of GPUs.
Think of it this way...
You go blue now, you support Intels future cards. You sure you don't want to invest? :3
@@randomguy3034 i mean , its intel dude , the cpu mega Giant. the have enough money. You call it investing , but companies arent people. when you support another person, you help him become better (usually) when you encourage a copmpany, you send them the message: "this is good enough , to profit , no need to raise the investment in R+D"
Let them see: Ok, as you can see from all the online feedback , you got our attention , we are interested in your product. But it is still not good enough , for us to buyu it over the competition. You gotta do better than the competition , or you are going to loose money.
LIke i heard someone said, we already have a very competitive underdog , its called AMD.
I am also interested in Intel getting competitive , but i dont think buying a bad gpu , is the way to make this happen.
im sure they wont give up , they already knew it was going to be a bad launch.
if it is super bad , they will have to do it much better
@@randomguy3034 Well...will you invest yourself?
Or do you want others to beta test products for you?
Just buy some stock instead?
It seems you guys misunderstood.
My friend opened a bakery a few weeks ago. What did I do? I robbed her of co....I bought cookies, spread the word, now she has more customers....and makes more cookies.
You can certainly wait for someone else to try the cookies but SOMEONE pays the initial price.
In case yall are on a low sugar diet I only suggested that there is nothing wrong with buying a new video card from the new guys to support them. Investment and waiting on "someone else" to fork over money are certainly options too. I'm well aware. 😌
Those results are amazing for their very first cards! I was honestly expecting them to suck but this news is super exciting and I hope these cards sell well and spur on the competition.
2nd cards
@@Boogerdick69 you're both wrong, technically it's their "3rd generation" of gpus xD
They made some in the early 2000s, but they were . . . well ^^
@@ErukanuSenpai lol nice. 2000 series is when I built my rig so I was new and didn’t know shit. Just bought was thought was good
They did suck. They just priced them down so the product would move. They were targeting 3070 level performance and managed 3060. Still, the competitive pricing is appreciated.
@@ErukanuSenpai The i740 was Intel's first dedicated graphics card in 1998, What a total shit dump that was! lol. After that they went back to more integrated style chips/chipsets, Including the GMA series. 2009 came their second attempt at a dedicated card.. The Larrabee (as seen on LTT and others), This thing just couldn't compete on any level with Nvidia or AMD and was quickly shelfed. So now we have ARC, Which is technically their 3rd bat.. But no strike this time! I think they finally nailed it? 😃
I always loved the "alternative" cards. When 3dfx was still relevant, I did chose the Nvidia TNT 2. When Geforce 2 was relevant, I did choose the Power VR Kyro 2. Now that NVidia seems to be most relevant due to ray tracing, I did choose the Rx 6600... It always seemed more interresting for me and theese cards always had their strenghts... I am looking forward for later models of the Intel Chip.
Love the tunes under the benchmarks 🤘
Im so happy seeing these results; more power to the customer! Well done Intel!
I recently bought a 6800xt, so I wasn't looking for a replacement. That said, I was excited to see this product stack come out. Another facet of competition ensures that AMD keeps on the straight and narrow (or returns to it) and hopefully will be a wake-up call to Nvidia that they can't pretend that pandemic scalper prices are okay. As always, more options are always good for development, and more importantly, great for the customer. I'm excited to see how the lineup matures, and hopefully, ARC can come up with a more elegant workaround for older titles as opposed to offloading translation to the CPU.
"hopefully will be a wake-up call to Nvidia that they can't pretend that pandemic scalper prices are okay" ......THIS ALLLLL THIS fuck nvidia's current practices and also how it caused EVGA to have the BALLS to say FUCK OFF too!
P.S. used to be exclusively nvidia so it's sayin a lot lol, since the TNT days
Facts. AMD had some seriously competitive hardware for a while but I held off on upgrading my 2019 rig (mid range for the time, showing its age now) and now intel has some crazy good offerings cpu wise.
@@aquifer9480 I agree about the CPU, but I haven't yet seen something that will entice me to upgrade my 5800x3d. I don't use productivity software that would require more than it can do, and frankly, anything game-wise it couldn't handle would be far beyond what my GPU could yoke in the first place. Something tells me I'll be on AM4 with it for quite some time.
Very excited about ARC. Looks like it could be a major competitor for the budget builder. I'm also optimistic for 3D modeling on ARC, as I've heard Intel has been working very close with Blender on optimization between ARC and Blender.
That's pretty much the only thing that pulls me to specific hardware these days. Not much of a gamer anymore, and an affordable raytracing card is very welcome.
Interesting benchmarks, I think it would have been nice to know, which cpu you used for it 🤔
The fluctuations in performance between similar costed cards is so strange
I'm buying an A770 just to have an Intel 1st gen GPU. Upcoming driver updates may make this thing a beast
This is probably the best review I watched so far.
You didn't test a lot of games but it covers a wide range, old, new, good, and bad. You also spend time explaining what game favor what architecture and setting (which I appreciate). So far, Intel Arc has hardware potential but the driver cannot unleash it. Seem like it still has many software bottlenecks, Intel has a lot of cleanup work to do...
For most people,
Nvidia is for productivity, and 6600XT is still a better safer buy for gaming. Intel Arc is actually not bad at all for the price, but it's for people who want to try something new, want to explore this GPU, and can deal with some unexpected issues (that may rise).
im glad to see arc is starting to get its footing
Very good start for a first gen, I'll be interested in seeing a updated video with newer drivers to compare and see if they're actually getting boosts or not. Hope that's something you plan to do later.
Second Gen
I appreciate all the work you and your team does! Always a great watch.
Really hope they don't disband the market and keep persistently going. It's going to be long journey
Thanks for the comparisons,been amd long time
What I'd love to see is how these cards perform in more professional applications. For me that's a combination of 3DS Max, Zbrush, Photoshop, Premiere Pro, and Substance Painter / Designer. I know there are other software packages that people use on a daily basis for their work / hobby but I wanted to give at least a pipeline example. I feel a lot of people who do work with these applications could use a good performing card that has a good value proposition and especially those still in college / university. Cheers! Stay Healthy and Stay Sane!
This
It's all well and good to see statistics on games to get an idea for their hobbyist performance, but it would be really good to see data for professionals, too
zbrush is entirely CPU and ram dependent but your point remains
@@bigbalticbox he’s a gaming enthusiast though. Not like pro setting… he doesn’t do anything professional. Phil does the pro work on an OLD thread ripper.
He reviews consumer level hardware tailored to gamers for gaming.
@@Boogerdick69 That's fine, but it's not difficult to download a scene or two for purely rendering. Load scene, hit render, sit for a few minutes, input data, done. He doesn't need to start modelling and learning the software and I'm not asking/hoping Jay even does that
@@bigbalticbox that’s a lot to ask for bruh. TH-cam is all algorithm, he already gets comments saying he stretches videos much longer than needed
Imagine also having him explain the professional benchmarks and how/why they’re like that and gaming all in one video? This video would be 40 minutes long
I was really worried the performance numbers were going to be garbage and that the card wouldn't be competitive, but they're doing pretty well, I see. That's good. I'll definitely consider it when I finally upgrade from my veteran GTX 980.
I am looking out for building my first PC every and these new Intel Cards look very interesting for me.
These seem like the perfect cards for budget builds, or a short term upgrade while waiting for the 4000 series to come down.
I'm finally going to replace my 1080ti in my secondary machine with an Arc a770. 1. I want to check out what Intel has and 2. This is fantastic performance for the price.
now is the time 500$ for a 3080 on ebay
@@badbadthingss Maybe. With the price of electricity skyrocketing, Nvidia looks like a terrible buy.
Got my A770 in and have been using it for a few days now. No problems at all, no crashes, performance is good. I actually love this card. I was going to get a 4070 but now I'm not so sure. Probably won't give me 16GB, and be $800. I'm getting tired of Nvidia. Arc is in NUCs, laptops, dGPUs and iGPUs if you count 11th gen and newer CPUs which also have Xe cores. Xe cores are in those new Intel datacenter GPUs too, up to 128 Xe cores. Vs 32 in Arc. The future is bright. The drivers will become perfect as a result. And the cards are already good. I'm running the betas with all my motherboard's ASPM features enabled and it's great.
I just love that theres a 3rd competitor now. I hope they do well
Im actually more excited than I was going to be hearning how the A380 panned out and some of the rumors and stuff going on about Arc after their press push. Maybe they will kinda hold back and not release a huge stack for Battlemage and Celestial but I hope they can keep working on it and improving it in other form factors before really pushing higher end discrete in the future.
Very respectable benchmarks for a first gen product. Just hope the drivers are up to scratch. Good to see another player in the market to shake up the nvidia/amd cartel.
It's probably going to be a while. The eternal "Hunt For Alternatives Because I Don't Like Prices."
So DG1 and all the iGPU don't count?
@@RobBCactive No.
@@RobBCactive dg1 was still a igpu extended, their ceo explained said why their driver stack suck in latest interviews due to them thinking they can take igpu drivers and scale it to dgpu which was a mistake
@@andrew6978 That's pure BS!!
Love Learning Tech on ur Channel. I sure Wish you would put the video game Star Citizen in your benchmarks
I am considering getting one of the acer cards when they come out. I picked up an i740 way back in the day, and it was more or less the same, middle of the road, intel just didn't pursue it any further. I have to imagine mainly due to all the competition back then in the video card space. 3dfx, nvidia, ATI, Matrox, S3, and more I cant remember. I sincerely hope they succeed here, the competition is desperately needed.
Love to see how Jay was proud of Nick's stand, looked like a father proud of son's work, for real! Nice to see it.
I wonder if the synthetic benchmarks and metro exodus show the arc's true potential over its competition but the driver optimization for all these other games just isn't quite there yet.
I have a feeling that might be true , especially when we consider AMD and their past trouble with drivers , it seems like it's the thing holding back ARC the most
I bet this is the case. Specs wise, the A770 is closer to a 3070, which the synthetic scores back up. I wonder why the drivers wouldn't adversely affect the benchmark though.
I also think that might be the case, A770 3dmark scores are smack in the middle of rx6700xt and rx6800, the Arc gpu`s architecture is also much more like those gpu`s (256bit memory bus, 4096 sp`s and higher power consumption). It`s specs are much beefier than an 3060/6600xt. I`d say those synthetic scores are right on the bat, there might be much higher in-game performance on the table with gradual game and driver optimizations over time, it will be interesting to see these cards come in their own over time.
@@DennisD026 yeah, the Port Royal scores are also only about 1500 points off my 3070. Looks like it's somewhere between a 3060ti and a 3070 in theory.
@@ryanspencer6778 It actually shows it`s wider architecture on some of the 1440p benchmarks (after watching and reading more reviews...)
Great info.
Looks exciting can't wait to see how it all develops over time
Looking forward to a follow-up video with stable drivers. Be especially curious to see where this goes when the AIBs start tweaking out...
This was a great video! Intel is definitely shaking up the GPU game. Tired of going Nvidia due to their business practices. Hoping the higher tier Intel delivers a suflex too lol
I don't get why people see Intel as some kind of saviour to the GPU market.
Have you not paid attention to how they act with CPUs?
What makes anyone thinks they would be any different in the GPU game?
@@link1565V2 Thanks that is what i keep saying. Same with AMD , they are all corporations, not ONGs. PRofit is their reason to be. and they all see how apple is the role model to get super rich. and all will try to copy that as much as possible. But only the top dog can allow themselves to have such anti-consumer behaviours. When AMD become the Top dog in the CPU market a couple years ago, their prices broke recrods , it was jaw dropping in th ebad way.
People think if AMD managed to win nvidia in performace , in all games , with or with out RT , they`ll still keep prices reasonable.
They almost matched Nvidia prices last gen , without wining them XD AMD would charge you NVidia prices or more.
And same with intel.
Ii wish that intel does good , so that competition makes them lower the prices.
But what company i end up buying from , i dont really care. they are all equal for me. the one that has the best price-performance ratio , at the time i decide to buy , in the shop i decide to buy , thats the one im getting.
takin sides is ridiculous
@@link1565V2 Look where Intel is right now in the CPU market?! That's exactly why they can't play their same old CPU shenanigans in the GPU or any playfield in the present scenario. I really hope they learned their lessons. But let's wait and see!
@@yeskay7 yes, but as the person above you pointed out, the moment AMD started gaining ground they started pulling the same dirty moves.
Intel won't be any different.
@@link1565V2 you both make great points and this was something I was initially concerned about years ago (when Intel first announced getting into modern gpus) but we have to take things as they come. With 3 GPU manufacturers we will have more power to punish the poor business practices by going with a competitor. Enough short term losses year over year and we may start to see more chivalry between them. They can only push/take advantage of consumer as much as we let them. Problem is with only two vendors we don't have a lot of choice. This just increased our options 50%! Lol
wow the song during the graphs just SLAPS 🔥🔥🔥
3:16 nice powerful music🤘
(during benchamark/fps stats)
Could you be convinced to review these again in about 6 months? Give Intel a chance to iron things out, then do a comparison with current gen AMD and NVidea cards, with performance per price discussion (since that's one of the primary things Intel is advertising).
Love to see it, the performance is more than adequate, especially with pre-release/beta drivers. I'm hopeful and excited to see a third competitor enter the GPU market.
Very happy to see that. have you noticed any issues with any of the cards in terms of min/1% fps numbers? is the ARC as consistent as others basically? Too bad you don't have FarCry6 in there. It's my kind of game. But I understand you have a small crew so you can only do so much. I assume you chose DX12 in most cases too?
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That's very impressive. I truly wasn't expecting them to perform that well. I'm not won over yet, but will be keeping an eye on them for sure.
Hey Jay! Are you planning to make some tests with both AMD and Intel CPUs to see if going full Intel has additional benefits? Would love to see that! :)
Throw in a Intel 670p SSD for a really full Intel setup :)
I've had the same issue with CyberPunk on my 3080ti ftw3 card. While running the benchmark and changing the settings it would have major fluctuations in fps even when lowering it. I ran a 1080p medium/rts off test that got 34fps before re-applying the setting again and restarting the game. This was 2 weeks ago with everything up to date. I think CDPR still has some work to do.
I'm very happy to see a third option. These are obviously quite far from something a modern gamer should be picking up, but perhaps they can make up a lot of that gap in driver updates. The GPUs clearly have more ability than they're currently seeing and that's the most exciting part. I'm glad Intel didn't put a stupid price tag on them because Im sure they'd have just gone "see, no one wants it", but if they wanted to sell these in a notable quantity they'd need to knock another $50 off the price. These would make a great budget build going into 2023, but $330 isn't exactly budget build money when you're getting sub-lowest-end-2-year-old-card performance. Who knows! Maybe they will be super overclockable and the drivers actually come together by the new year.
This is very exciting to see, like many stated below I can't help but wonder if the synthetic tests are indicative of future performance gains. Not making the jump yet but I'll definitely be keeping my eye on them.
Seeing that the Intel RT cores are so close to 2nd gen Nvidia RT cores is exciting!!!
In February I got the Intel Arc A770 16GB LD and never looked back it works great
The other two had 10 years to get to where they are, Arc in first release is on par. I'd like to see an all Intel setup and see if that changes the results.
These are doing an excellent job of punching in at the right spot for 1080p gaming.
The only pain point I see is requiring resizable bar. That is going to hurt them a bit in market share as a lot of folks will need to buy a lot of new equipment to work with these cards that they technically won't need for the AMD (6000 series) or Nvidia cards (3000 series).
It's not a problem and it's good to see that they are using new technology, but since a lot of folks are still in 7th and 8th gen Intel and 1st and 2nd gen Ryzen it's going to be a bit of a stretch to ask folks to buy into Intel if they also have to buy all new other parts.
I think it's a strong competition and I'll likely grab a 770 even though I don't have anywhere for it to slot in yet just to have. Might chuck it into a PC for my nephew's to play some games. Nothing they'll play with be too demanding and 1080p 60 hz is about as expensive of a monitor as they'd be getting anyway at their age.
Strong showing for sure.
loving the benchmark music lol
Quite impressed. Would not be surprised that if the drivers get fully optimized over time it could bump up performance almost a full card tier.
I'm interested in the intel cards for 3d modeling and animation. I'd like to grab a few and run some tests on them to see how they fair on the industrial side of graphics.
If with driver updates the a770 could potentially be up there with a 3060ti or 3070 i would take a chance on it...
It's actually on par with a 3070. Only about 5 to 10 fps difference
The performance of this card, A770, is comparable to a console with actual RT. RT and availability are the only reasons to choose this hardware. Go buy a 2070 Super or upgrade to a 2080 Super (this card is overlooked) if you want the most for your money.
Be careful if you play a lot of dx11 or 9 games. Performance is kinda meh on these older games.
@@oskrm yeah that's why I'm depending on driver updates... the performance is super inconsistent across different games.
Really glad to see another competitor in the ring! Thanks for the eval on these cards
I'm gonna watch Arc, I'm definitely interested in see how these cards work later on.
As a guy looking to build his first system these are awesome to see. Unfortunately I'm looking to build a bit more on the high end so I'll probably go 7900xt. But it's awesome to see more competition in the gpu area for the future. Hope they can sell enough to stay in the game.
They have 4million of these and they are breaking even with these prices
Damn those numbers are juicy! HELLO competition. Very good start for Intel coming into the game. Now the question is....how is driver optimization and how long for developers for games to really get use to the hardware?
The thing is, Intel is at a huge disadvantage, where game devs do not code support for these cards, and Intel has not had the time and experience tuning drivers for every game out there. So I'm thinking as install base increases, and devs start optimizing for Intel, these cards might age like fine wine.
@@neh4pres Yes that is my thought; however, I feel like it won't be that long because I am sure that Intel doesn't want to be left behind. Maybe they have a system that is like plug-in for DEVs that will assist in getting optimization done faster. But i agree with your statement 100%.
I would hope they already have some game developers working on optimizations for these GPUs. These results are very impressive either way.
@@trr4gfreddrtgf highly doubt it. It costs money to do, and with an install base of 0% it's just not going to happen. But I think Intel is going to sell at possible losses to get that base going so devs take notice and put the work in.
@@neh4presTrue, intel is prepared to take huge losses on this. They're in it for the long run.
I should say with intel having a really good value based budget cpus like 12th gen i3,i5. I can see Intel Arc having such a similar lineup to save us budget users
Sweet looking cards
Really looking forward to getting a A770 to play with in gaming and workstation tasks. And I have to wonder if the difference with the A770 and A750 was because of the VRAM.
I plan to buy a 770 IF ONLY to show Intel that they are a welcome addition to the market.
Same reason I bought a 5700xt back when. I suffered with some pretty terrible drivers, but seems to be worth it with the current and next gen offerings
Edit: This is assuming they are easy to find. I have a 3080ti and 2080s for my other PCs. Not going to take one from the hands of someone who needs it.
I love your mindset, thankyou for considering budget gamers like us,
Peace 🤟
I really want to see performance on these Intel cards for things like video rendering now, even as a hardware accelerator for something like Plex and emby
That is fantastic performance for their first gen. I'm genuinely excited to see the A900 series
I'm thinking it's more likely gonna be a 90 series
A750 A770
A780 and A790 for higher end cards
It's great to see more competition. The RT results really surprised me. Great video as always 👍
Looks like a great card! I think it's important that people start embracing this new card. Adoption rate will be deterministic of how much capital Intel is gonna put in this segment, and we definitely need this new segment to persist
But it's equally important for people to know what they're getting into. If you're not a tech savvy person, you should NOT buy this until the driver issues are ironed out.
With how shitty Nvidea has been being lately, I don't think that's going to be a problem.
Jay, I have been watching recent build videos and wanted your opinion. I play a lot of shooters at a very high level, and have a 240hz monitor but struggle to hit enough fps in most titles like apex legends or warzone or rainbow size siege. What would be a machine capable of 250 or even 300+ fps on warzone for example. Love the videos man!!
It is really good to have Intel come into the lineup as this will bring more to the table when choosing an affordable GPU. Like all new GPU's the drivers will take time to get sorted, but the tests you have done are really impressive and show so much potential. Nice one Jay. Great Video as always. Thanks
🙏 Hope they keep it up. Would be great to have 3 companies competing with each other down the line. That 4080 stuff really ticked me off
You mean the 4080 or the fake4080?
I have to be missing something. At 4:25, it shows FH5 coming in at 72 FPS on a 3060 at 1080p ultra preset. My FX-8350 with a GTX 1070 rig can hold 60 FPS on FH5 with a high/ultra preset at 1080 all day long. I absolutely expected the 3060 to be WAY faster than that...
Nope 3060 isn't that much faster.
It basically the shittiest rtx 3000 card
Yep, the 1070 is still relevant lol.
The 30 series was way overhyped.
notch your settings to extreme to match the benchmark and report back. The GPU and CPU load between high vs extreme for some settings is significant.
Probably about right a 3060 is only 20% ish higher on benchmarks (let alone the game engine differences). I found that and the 6600 xt very underwhelming from a gtx 1080
If Arc is already this good, I'm excited for what future brings to us.
This is really interesting. Intel are certainly worth keeping an eye on. I only have a 7th Gen CPU so my next upgrade is going to have to be a platform upgrade but the next time I am looking at graphics cards, Intel will be part of the equation. I am a mid-range consumer so they are aiming right at me.
Good stuff. I’m not a high end user. I just want to my games to run and look as good if not better than consoles. I’m kinda done with Nvidia they are just too expensive and seem predatory. I’d imagine the product will get better as time goes on.
yeah so cool to see a third color on those graphs !!!!
Ha! Right when you showed the chandelier falling and the camera falling through the floor, my browser tab crashed!
Im very excited about the arc cards. Looking at the 770 but cant wait to see the stronger cards also
there are no stronger cards coming anytime soon
@@VividFlash i was refering to their battlemage line due next year
This piqued my curiosity really. I'd like to see what their higher end stuff is capable of doing, and how they can improve it in the next gen.
I wouldn't get your hopes up for anything better than a B380 for Battlemage next gen. ARC won't release 7-class products for 2-3 gens.
This is their high end for this gen. He has obviously no clue what he talks about mentioning a900
good to hear the heavier music back in the benchmarks 👍
Youre by far my favorite tech content creator. I'm so grateful for you
I am certainly gonna keep an eye on how Intel progresses with this. I like the esthetics of the cards.
I'm impressed, especially with RT performance. All the best for Intel to continue!