Question for the comments: Is Arc at a point now where you would buy a card? Do you own one already? Huge thanks to our viewer who requested this content piece! Let us know what else you all want us to test or look into next! Watch our original bug round-up: th-cam.com/video/MjYSeT-T5uk/w-d-xo.html Watch our A580 review (with tests on relatively new drivers): th-cam.com/video/FT2yk9PL-t8/w-d-xo.html
Absolutely, the problem is I have better hardware already, if they drop something new and it is actually an improvement over what I have, I will give them a shot.
How I know Intel ARC matters...I recently had patch notes for a major game include "improvements for Intel ARC"...this is the kind of stuff that matters and proves you are on the right track.
@@GamersNexus I saw an update to Satisfactory where they added XeSS in a recent patch of their experimental branch (game is still early access). Would be cool to see the implementation in this game!
It's not hard when it was so bad to begin with. That being said, it's still too far behind in several games to be worth it to me. I really wanted to get one but too much to pay for a broken card. Maybe next gen...
@@farmeunitwill yeah that was to be expected the only graphics knowledge they started it with is with Igpu’s which is better then nothing and they only could get so much data from within the company they needed to release it to the public to really get it better
@@farmeunitit was bad but I would argue it’s not “easy” to improve it the way they did. They could have simply abandoned it and spent their money and time elsewhere. We need a strong third competitor in the market to keep Nvidia and AMD pricing under control. I think this is a good first step … it’s by no means great, but they’ve proved they will support their products. I’m used to Intel being the company we all hate on … in this case they are the underdog and I’m rooting for them to succeed.
@@blackbirdpctech I want them to succeed, as well, but they said it would be 3070 performance. Some games it's barely 3050. I am just saying, don't lie or overhype it. It's just simply not a good option. I would have even bought one and was really close but not when priced higher than the AMD card that beats in in every aspect.
it really does show how difficult it is for a new player to enter the game when even a giant company like Intel struggles so much with it, especially since they've been doing integrated graphics for years anyway.
It also could be just a case of Intel having rested on their laurels too long, considering they seem to have been completely blindsided by AMDs new CPUs. And somehow managed to find the roles reversed with AMD having the more power efficient CPUs and Intel CPUs just throwing power draw at the problem to get comparable performance.
Definitely an eye opener and one that puts Moore Threads challenges into even greater perspective. I really hope China can do some good work with that GPU. More competition the better!
@@GodzThirdLeg Ummm think again. I thought exactly that as well. Until I found someone discussing.. that now, both companies are overclocking/pre-clocking their processors wayy beyond optimal clocks,.. overvolting them as well in doing so. Thus amd's "oh processor is running at 95°c, its designed to do so" somewhat true in amd's case. And Intel abusing the clocks beyond the optimal efficiency even more so. But the guy "Tech Yes City" I think, has demonstrated that.. both Intel and Amd average around the same efficiency when undervolted a teensy bit, almost without losing performance.
This card needs to exist. Nvidia and AMD graphics cards have the market cornered. They are taking advantage of this by charging too much. Intel could really shake them up if they have the courage to continue with these cards.
What makes you think Intel would be any better? Given Intel's history with CPU pricing, if they become a competitor they would also join in on exploiting demand.
@@viet0ne Exactly. Intel is only cheaper because they're the underdog and they need to entice people to actually buy their products. They're playing catch-up when they've just been lapped and haven't even gotten off the starting line. If they get any sizeable market share, expect them to charge what the competition is charging because, just like AMD and NVIDIA, they will be able to get away with it.
If anything, Nvidia is, yes, but I paid 200 for an 8GB gpu from amd, which is cheaper than the same from intel, so they arent the small comapny, they are the monopoly that amd came to fix.
@@viet0ne More choices should be better for consumers and for the the advancement of the technology itself. 3 companies chasing market share should = at least some slow down of the price increases.
If Intel are still listening, Hear us when we say, Intel Arc sucks and has since Day 1. If thousands of consumers are gonna be your alpha and beta testers, you could have at least sold them the graphics cards 'at cost'.
@@garyb7193ofc they will suck ...its their first after all, look at AMD, their sofwares were dogshits and uncompatible with ppl works many times, took them years to fix it. Everyone gonna be alpha and beta test at some point
@@garyb7193 Wtf are you on? We say lol speak for yourself. Do you not see that their basically giving these cards away? and what new piece of tech/game does not have any alpha/beta testers in its early stages? Its called improving each reiteration until its stable, The first NShidia cards and AMD cards faced the same dilemma Einstein.
I was an early adopter of the Ark A750, two weeks after market release. As well detailed in video, for the first two months the bulk of issues were with the control software, which I deleted straight away after each driver update. With a clean driver only install, the A750 has performed well since the beginning. And Intel's commitment to driver updates has been terrific. No regrets. Runs Baldur's Gate 3 like a champ. Looking forward to Battlemage series!
I'm sure a few of the oddities I have on either system I've been using could be resolved if I just installed drivers and nothing else. Like Nvidia experience or AMD's Adrenaline software.
sure does solve alot, been using nvcleanstall to install driver only for years since I don't use any geforce experience features and have only had 1 driver issue since with youtube videos that was quickly fixed in the last 7 years lol.@@ArtisChronicles
Thank you so much for doing another video on the Intel Arc series. I've been an A770 LE user from day one. It's been rough but the recent improvements make it all worth it for the most part. Can you please continue to include the A770 (I know it can't be bought new anymore) in your tests when you test the A750 or any next gen Battlemage cards? 😉
I wonder how much of the A770 16GB has gone to people for inference. It's certainly a lot nicer than the 800+ bucks everyone else wants for 16GB, and there's a lot of performance left on the table. Also, I'm pretty sure most of the optimization works across their entire product stack, from iGPU to Ponte Vecchio.
I dont regret buying an Arc A770 pretty early. It was quite the journey but it actually sparked my interest and i learned a lot more about how drivers work and how to analyse and fix issues. By now it is running smooth. A Clean driver install every now and then is all i have to do but i did that with amd and Nvidia cards before aswell. Lets Hope they keep up with it. They certainly showed that they listen and work a lot to improve... That they care. And i like that thought
15:14 Correction: Initially, they used a DX9-11-to-DX12 translation layer at launch, but due to unsatisfactory results, they later switched to DXVK-a DX9-11-to-Vulkan translation layer developed by Valve for the Linux platform. This allows Windows titles to run on Linux platforms using Proton (Wine) and also enables the utilization of DX9-11 backends for native Linux ports.
The Linux D3D8 and D3D9 wrappers are just more optimized than Intel's was, same idea but why re invent the wheel when an excellent performing and highly compatible wrapper already existed. The D3D 8 and 9 performance boost in windows came when Intel ditched their own wrapper and baked the linux wrapper into their Windows drivers. The ironic thing is that wrappers often work better than native DirectX 8 and 9 on current windows because MS has stopped maintaining it and a lot of older games perform badly with it or are just outright broken.
I am so thankful for valve. Linux gaming would be so much less of a reality without them, and to be honest it doesn’t feel like they really *had* to pick Linux - they could’ve just went with mobile windows for the steam deck for example. So awesome that they’re willing to put in the effort.
@@Bvngeeif you think about it, if they went with Windows they'd have to pay more and increase prices for windows licensing. It was probably a business decision, but definitely one I support and am very thankful for.
@@someusername121 didn't they attempt something similar in the past? So it sort of wasn't their first run at it any way you slice it. Difference is this is being publicly sold while the other project wasn't.
That's far from the truth. Yes, it's based on their integrated graphics architecture, but only in the way that Nvidia's Ada is based on Ampere, Turing, or Pascal. It's a different architecture, certainly not just take away the CPU cores. That's what DG1 was.
@John-PaulHunt-wy7lf They are unlikely to dethrone Nvidia, as long as Nvidia chooses to stay in the consumer GPU market. Intel, more than any other tech company, understands just how powerful being the dominant market leader is, since that has been their own position in the consumer CPU market since forever. Nvidia owns something like 80-85% of the consumer GPU market. And Nvidia is likely developing their own GPU technology faster than Intel is (or even can).
Really hope Intel continues to improve Arc because it’s has some serious potential and more competition in the market is always better for the consumer.
The funny thing is no one really knows and won't know how truly capable the Arc Alchemist architecture is. As explained to me, a few bugs in the arch design is holding the rest of it back, which also leads to no one really knowing how fast these would be without these bugs.
Great job, Intel ARC Drivers team listening to feedback and addressing so many issues. I purchased an A770 around launch with the hope that it would keep getting better and you haven’t disappointed. Finally at the point now where I can recommend these cards to friends looking for budget builds
I can get an Intel ARC 770 16gb for $200+ at Best Buy. Definitely will be picking one of these up. Any recommendation on a MOBO? I'll be using a 13th Gen I5.
@@tawsikabdullah I don't use A770, but using A750. And yeah, it works like a champ. It smoothly renders PTS, AI, PR and AE. The largest render I did after using Arc750 is 4K 60FPS 25 minutes long, and no problem. So yeah I recommend A750/770. Just remember that you have to update the intel driver, or it gonna be a disaster with stock driver.
@@acardenasjr1340 I recommend the Gigabyte Z790 UD, just notice that Gigabyte software is kinda ... sucks. It's not bad at the level that brick the PC or can not use, but sucks, but cheaper than Asus or MSI. My specs are: Gigabyte Z790 UD, Intel Arc 750, I5 13K, and 32GB DDR5.
I bought an ASROCK A770 last month doing a new build. 7800X3D, 670E Steel Dragon, 6000MHz Team T Force DDR5, 4TB WD SSD, 8TB HDD, Corsair 4000D with 4 fans and 850PSU bundle, with a Corsair 3fan rad for my CPU. Excited to build it when I get off work in 2 weeks. Board and cpu just got to my house today. First build in 10 years.
@@PixelatedWolf2077 I am on a gtx 1660TI laptop , waiting for battlemage to make my first PC build , and will get a CPU from AMD to support the competition on both GPU and CPU sides.
It's noticeable how much work Intel has been putting into Arc, and I commend them for it. I don't own one of their cards yet but will most likely be buying a Battlemage card when they come out, to upgrade from my 2070 Super.
Great video! I've been looking forward to periodic Intel ARC revisits from various tech media, especially GN. It has been very interesting watching the steady improvement across the past year with DX9 and DX11 optimizations as well as general stability. The fact that intel has demonstrated that they're willing to constantly improve the Alchemist GPUs is very encouraging for current users and the future.
I would love to see a detailed video on graphics card driver development! What is actually happening in the driver code to increase gaming performance? Show an example... What is the relationship between hardware, Microsoft DirectX, and the driver? Would be a really cool and educational video. Thanks for the considerations!
This is such a great video. Thanks so much for following up! Tons of great info here - just interesting stuff for the geek in me that loves just hearing about hardware
Really glad you decided to revisit this. It's interesting to see how intel is really doing with their long term goals against AMD and Nvidia. Thanks again, Steve!
Regarding the issues ARC still has with some older titles that run with DX-11 or 9, a usable workaround for those games is to run them via DXVK. It's a "translater" that basically makes those games run with the Vulkan API instead of DirectX. It was originally created to make it easier to run games on Linux but it has made its way over to windows ages ago.
I'm 53 owned a computer building Co in the 90's (8th largest us importer from tiawan ) have degrees in engineering and computer science and I have been programming since I was ten.. I kinda laugh because at first it was just like what Nvidia and and drivers used to be like. You had to carefully tweak and configure most games. Intel haD the same issue. But fixed them very quickly. No game in my hugged collection has trouble running and running well abd that's been the case since March!.. I thing those who only use these to test these don't understand the cards , I wonder if they removed the Nvidia drivers properly or have some other configuration problems because often my tests and benchmarks far outshine those from here! I remember getting literally twice the fps for God of war than the benchmark with the same hardware and driver version !
As it stands, Arc GPUs are already nipping at Nvidia's heels in terms of productivity suite (AV1 encoding on the cheap, QuickSync being pretty close to CUDA), so if they were able to get their gaming drivers up to snuff, and maintain their price point, they could take a LOT of market share. I bought an a750, and it's had its issues, but having access to AV1 encoding for $200, for my broke ass self doing some content on the side, has been an absolute godsend. Meanwhile, production wise, AMD is off in a corner, eating glue paste... All I'm saying is, Intel GPUs could bring the fight to Nvidia in a way that AMD either can't or won't, and I sincerely hope they succeed. I did my part in supporting their cause. I very much want to see what they bring out next.
I recently bought an Intel ARC A310 low-profile GPU for DaVinci Resolve 422 10bit HEVC footage and it has tremendously sped up editing and exporting. With my RTX 3090 and the Intel GPU in my 2nd 16x slot It has been literally trouble-free. Not the same to be said about AMD RX 6900 XT with the ARC GPU.... 10/10 For what it's worth it can do 120FPS in CS2 at 1080P low settings!
Awesome about the acceleration in Resolve! We're hoping to try something similar for our own video pipeline, although unfortunately we don't use DaVinci! Super helpful comment to share your Arc experience. Thanks for posting!
I'm on AMD 5700G for the moment with DaVinci till GPU are decent priced with AV1 hardware encoding. Would you recommend I buy the fastest arc I can afford? Or should I save up for Nvidia 30/40 series?
@@HaroldKuilman I bought my ASRock Intel ARC A310 from Amazon for $104 shipped to my door. It has been a phenomenal piece of equipment to say the least. From 20+ hour video edits down to 8 hours for 15 minute long videos. Simply because it doesn't pause or freeze anymore!
Good to see the improvements Intel has been making. I've got a 770 LE in a secondary machine since last year and it's been awesome - very happy to support a third GPU vendor. Keep it up Intel!
Yeah have to add one thing here. Artic Liquid coolers are for sure among the best I've used. Great product! As a enthusiast myself I want intel to be extremely competitive. I'm sure we all here want this. lets hope it happens!
A770 is doing well for me. That Halo update the other week was the only major issue I had left so glad that's solved. My only minor issue is that the drive auto update fails to work every other update (Check appears to timeout for ever until a manual update is done, then it works until and auto update happens and is then broken again until a manual update is done.) The does mean you can go several weeks without realising a driver update is out.
Thing is of course that once they offer an actual competitive product in terms of hardware, drivers and support..... they will up the price accordingly.
@@GamersNexusWhen AMD was way behind Nvidia, that was the dream. That once AMD can compete with Nvidia, prices will go down, now AMD is price fixing just like Nvidia.
Been running an A770 since February and I honestly can't see myself going back to nVidia any time soon after being a customer of theirs for over 20 years.
For their first gen of GPUs this is quite good result. Drivers are mostly fixed, and the architecture has probably a lot of space for further optimization (kinda like first gen ryzen). I'm really looking forward to their next gen release
From a software development perspective, the fact that they focus on specific games isn't in itself a problem. There are 2 approaches that can be taken here: the good one is to use the specific games to reproduce certain issues or edge cases, and use that to fix or optimize the general driver. This way, fixes done in one game are likely to improve the compatibility and performance in multiple games. The bad approach is to simply detect what particular game is running, and do game specific optimizations. This wouldn't improve the drivers for any other game, it's a lot of wasted effort optimizing individual titles, and would add a lot of bloat to the drivers.
Great re review Steve. I’ve been tempted to buy an ARC GPU since launch and now there’s support for Adobe Premiere Pro, the only thing holding me back is that Battlemage is likely not that far off 😁 I don’t want to be stuck with a last gen ARC card. Will instead stick with my 6700XT for a little longer.
Steve from Intel here, I just want to say thank you for your in depth look back at ARC! We are already reviewing and implementing support tickets based on your feedback and recognize how valuable it is. We will compete even stronger with BattleMage!! We’ve listened and DX9 support will be enabled on future cards (/s)
Just bought the Asrock 16gb version of the A770 and it's amazing, really stable for normal tasks (like watching this video) and it runs the games I play at full 144hz 1440p with only 60-65C temps.
On my buy list is Epyc 7002 32cores++, MB, 256GB ECC RAM, Arc A380 for transcoding. And all of the components are going to be 2nd hand. This costs around 1000-1300€. Best option for cheap and efficient transcoding if you have no intel iGPU
Agreed. I hope Intel keeps up with their developments. The bit of loss for the next few years is worth it. I'd strongly consider something in the next generation if there was enough improvement.
Hey Intel, if you're reading these comments, please know that we are rooting for you to achieve a competitive position. There's so much value to be gained from the process alone, your other offering will improve in ways you would never have forecast if not for your efforts on the Arc lineup. Excited to follow the continued development, keep up the effort, it will pay off in the end.
I have the intel A770 for about a year and it has been great so far. The improvement since i got it has been amazing. Only issue i have now is Arc Control cant find the new drivers anymore and i have to go and download them manually
I bought an A750 over the summer and it’s been great for light 1080p gaming. You nailed it though, what got me was the idea of playing with something new and different
I bought an A580 shortly after launch, when it went on a surprise sale on Newegg. I loved the card SO much that, as a show of support, I went on to buy an A770 to really play around with, and eventually an A750 and A380. I'm only one customer that makes a near-zero influence on their bottom line, but it's not zero, and I want to back my money on this product line along with others to let those who ultimately make the final calls know there is a hungry market here, ready to pay.
I upgraded my rx560 to a a750 and thank god I took some CIS classes. A lot of troubleshooting was required but after a few days and a lot of tests, It runs CS great and efficiently.
Dosbox! Dosbox! Dosbox! I guess I'm the only person that will stand up for Dosbox, because I never hear anyone else mention that Dosbox quit working with Arc in Windows 10 since driver 4676. I really like my Intel Arc a750 a lot, but hope they fix the Dosbox problem or I'll have to switch back to my AMD card.
The moment the more major issues mentionned in this video are fixed, imo, this could spell a general recommendation! And I really hope Battlemage delivers even more performance per dollar and make AMD and nVidia sweat bullets.
Agreed. I really want to see Intel focus on the core performance of its cards. The budget and mid range markets have a lot of opportunity for them to gain a foothold and develop some loyalty
Probably late watching this, but we have a A770 in our media/family gaming PC. It is using an Epson LS12000 as a monitor. We got it soon after release and had some problems early on with some games, but no issues with the projector. Intel has been fantastic with driver updates. Issues with games like Madden were fixed and now we really only have issues running older games.
The nice thing with DSA is that it won't install updates on it's own, it'll just send you some notifications if you have updates. It at least works way better than AMD's solution, which just doesn't seem to notify you at all.
Glad to see this come out. I got some wild comments when I decided to build with an Arc a750 instead of nVidia to save some money with people saying everything from "supporting intel isn't helping the video card situation since they are a huge company", "just get a 3070", "just get an AMD", "intel cards don't count as gaming cards" yet I've been pretty happy with its performance.
it does indeed show how difficult it is to put an (at first) unknown GPU onto this wide market. up until now i've been praising intel for their hard work, fixing major bugs, improving performance and stability and relative consistent driver updates over time. It is true dedication.
I've been using an A750 in my Linux machine for about 6 months and never had any issues with it. In comparison to my 7900XTX in my gaming rig, which now is great both hardware and drivers, the Intel card just worked. For a new card on the market, pretty decent. I use the Linux computer for 3D modeling and printing and I'm happy with it.
I had my doubts, but they fixing this on the driver level and not just fixing it on the next version of Arc is a huge plus with me. Too many bad memories of the Sound Card era where you often got 1 set of drivers
I've generally had a pretty smooth experience with my A750. Some minor issues I've come across in games is fire/laser effects not displaying properly in RE5, and some visual bugs in RPG Maker MV (though I haven't tried after the recent update). The only major issue I've had is display issues with my monitor through HDMI, because the HDMI port on the GPU is actually a DisplayPort going through an adaptor. The issues were fixed when I switched to using one of the three DisplayPort ports
ARC doesn't show up in the Steam hardware survey. You're looking at total percentage users of each brand which includes every iGPU still in use. Edit: Xe users make up 1.41 percent of the market, that's technically ARC.
Just bought an A580 off of TikTok for $120 after discounts. They sold me on their consistent updates and their price. If the card performs well enough I’ll probably buy their next gen’s high tier card.
Of the people I know to have purchase Arc cards almost exclusively bought A380's for video encode/transcode, either in stream rigs/NVR/Plex servers The ability to drop in AV1 quicksync is a godsend
Thanks gamers nexus for doing this 1 year update but I am glad I decided to go all out with an all white 4090/ 7800x3d/ 64 gig ddr5 build so I don't have anything to worry about.
Intel ARC is the only GPU I have yet to buy, and am most excited to. It's one of those things where you know it isn't super powerful at the moment, but it still kicks ass either way. Easily a pick for me, knowing the disadvantages, still worth it!
I purchased the A770LE in December of 2022 because it was the most interesting card to me in that price-range. It has proven to be a great card for what I do.. I've enen used it in WMR successfully. I basically run racing simulations...Assetto Corsa, Assetto Corsa Competizioni, Automobilista2, Rfactor2, RaceRoom Edition and Live for Speed. Of those titles, RF2 was the only one that would not launch initially. None of the others have crashed once in use. I went in expecting some issues for a brand new product but was quite lucky....and surprised at the same time. Is it all smooth sailing? No... The niggles I've encountered are just that...niggles. The first three drivers could not be installed using the Intel driver installer. It'd crash during the hardware information collection phase and go into a reboot loop I had to extract the driver using 7-zip...then manually install. Intel would put up links to updated drivers, which would go to the old driver. Silly things.....
The fact that a first gen card is this good is impressive, and they have been doing lots of stuff to make them good with video editing programs like Premiere (a constant complaint from me about AMD and the reason I can’t leave Nvidea yet). People forget or weren’t there to experience it back when stuff like this was the Wild West so to speak in the 90’s and 2000’s
I know I’m a little late but I’m cheering for intel 100% so awesome to watch the start up of a new gpu brand with such dominant companies controlling the gpu market. Keep on pushing intel! You will succeed!!
I’m not a gamer and I love my A770 LE. The great build quality, nice RGB and looks. I even bought a A750 LE as a spare GPU. It still sits in its unopened box. I like having spare parts for my computers. That’s why I also have a 3700X as a spare, but that one has been used. I have been using Intel CPUs since I started playing with computers 30 years ago. The 3700x was my first AMD CPU ever. Now I’m using 2 5950X systems and a 5700G system. And Beelink mini computers with an AMD 5500U CPU and an AMD 5560U CPU. Plus some older Intel systems and a new Intel CPU Lenovo Ideapad Slim laptop.
17:15 While I don't have an Arc card, I use the Arc drivers for onboard graphics on my laptop, and it just didn't stop. Tried a lot of fixes, but none worked, until I just upgraded from the Windows Home edition that my laptop shipped with to Windows Professional and changed the group policy settings so Windows won't update my drivers. So far so good, I think it is also in part fault of Windows, not just Intel.
I purchased an A770 LE at launch. I've not had many problems with it. Horizon Zero Dawn, Tomb Raider, Command & Conquer 3, and others all run just fine. I tend to run games at 4k medium settings. Ironically given your comments about game incompatibility is that the A770 allows me to play the original Far Cry which I cannot do on my RTX 4090 - on the latter system the game just fails to launch.
The "Windows Update downgrading the driver issue" isn't exclusive to Intel ARC GPUs, AMD Radeon GPUs have this issue as well. The workaround I use is just to disconnect from the internet, run DDU in safe mode, install the driver then reconnect to the internet. My suspicion is that this is more of a Windows issue than an Intel or AMD issue as blocking driver updates in Windows doesn't actually stop driver updates, Windows basically ignores its own settings.
They’ve come this far, it would be silly to can it now, for a first gen product it seems overall pretty decent and and I can’t help but think their 2nd gen will be leaps and bounds better again. Plus surely what they learn will make its way into other products of theirs as well. Keen to see Arc continue.
I just bought the A750 for my streaming rig just because it can encode AV1 and it is a little monster ! Coincidently my gaming rig had a warranty issue with the Mobo so I've actually started gaming on my streaming rig and even on an old 8700k with the A750 I would not be disappointed if I was just getting into PC gaming even at 1440p
Intel Arc team pulled a No Man's Sky and has gotten enough fixed that it's a valid GPU now. Play the price into the equation and you've got a very good launching point for when Battlemage comes to play. The A750 was a whim purchase for me but I've been happy with it. I tried a week of gaming on it. Some issues but nothing a fast Google search didn't give me a three step solution for. I threw it into the home server. Better for Plex transcoding than the old 1050 Ti I had in there. (Nothing earth shattering but enough no one in the house noticed when I swapped them)
This is something I am interested in personally, seeing what happened 1 year later is a great idea for some next gen or new competitor hardware... Thanks Gents!
17:26 - Speaking of Windows messing with drivers, it either downgraded or upgraded my Radeon ones which made the system unusable. Manually installing the driver version I was using before that resolved the issue. Never had that happen before
Would be incredibly happy if Intel played to their strengths & used the fabs to make a massive GPU core. Preferably on a advanced node with extreme OC support.
Finishing my first new build in close to a decade to replace my 3570k/GTX970. Picked up an ARC750 Limited Edition for $150 yesterday to go with my 13700k. Figure it will be a huge upgrade over my GTX970 and at $150, hold me over until everyone's next gen comes out.
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Question for the comments: Is Arc at a point now where you would buy a card? Do you own one already? Huge thanks to our viewer who requested this content piece! Let us know what else you all want us to test or look into next!
Watch our original bug round-up: th-cam.com/video/MjYSeT-T5uk/w-d-xo.html
Watch our A580 review (with tests on relatively new drivers): th-cam.com/video/FT2yk9PL-t8/w-d-xo.html
I would definitely want to buy one if only to try it out at this point as a secondary GPU.
If they become viable competition for Nvidia and AMD, I absolutely would get one. Even if I didn’t use it, I get one to help them.
I wouldn’t buy one yet, but I am very interested in the future of Arc.
I would rather wait for their 2nd gen, when that comes out I'll definitely consider it
Absolutely, the problem is I have better hardware already, if they drop something new and it is actually an improvement over what I have, I will give them a shot.
How I know Intel ARC matters...I recently had patch notes for a major game include "improvements for Intel ARC"...this is the kind of stuff that matters and proves you are on the right track.
Awesome to hear. What game was that?
@@GamersNexus Minesweeper
@@t1e6x12 bro is trolling :/
What game? It would be good to know and test.
@@GamersNexus I saw an update to Satisfactory where they added XeSS in a recent patch of their experimental branch (game is still early access). Would be cool to see the implementation in this game!
As a software engineer, fixing a bug by simply removing the feature is so relatable 😂
[Run yeet.exe]
"It's fixed boss."
Morning coffee fix 😂
It’s pretty impressive how much they have been able to improve performance
It's not hard when it was so bad to begin with. That being said, it's still too far behind in several games to be worth it to me. I really wanted to get one but too much to pay for a broken card. Maybe next gen...
@@farmeunitwill yeah that was to be expected the only graphics knowledge they started it with is with Igpu’s which is better then nothing and they only could get so much data from within the company they needed to release it to the public to really get it better
@@farmeunitit was bad but I would argue it’s not “easy” to improve it the way they did. They could have simply abandoned it and spent their money and time elsewhere. We need a strong third competitor in the market to keep Nvidia and AMD pricing under control. I think this is a good first step … it’s by no means great, but they’ve proved they will support their products. I’m used to Intel being the company we all hate on … in this case they are the underdog and I’m rooting for them to succeed.
Would have loved to see a performance comparison to the launch driver.
@@blackbirdpctech I want them to succeed, as well, but they said it would be 3070 performance. Some games it's barely 3050. I am just saying, don't lie or overhype it. It's just simply not a good option. I would have even bought one and was really close but not when priced higher than the AMD card that beats in in every aspect.
it really does show how difficult it is for a new player to enter the game when even a giant company like Intel struggles so much with it, especially since they've been doing integrated graphics for years anyway.
It also could be just a case of Intel having rested on their laurels too long, considering they seem to have been completely blindsided by AMDs new CPUs. And somehow managed to find the roles reversed with AMD having the more power efficient CPUs and Intel CPUs just throwing power draw at the problem to get comparable performance.
Definitely an eye opener and one that puts Moore Threads challenges into even greater perspective. I really hope China can do some good work with that GPU. More competition the better!
@@GodzThirdLeg Ummm think again.
I thought exactly that as well.
Until I found someone discussing.. that now, both companies are overclocking/pre-clocking their processors wayy beyond optimal clocks,.. overvolting them as well in doing so.
Thus amd's "oh processor is running at 95°c, its designed to do so" somewhat true in amd's case.
And Intel abusing the clocks beyond the optimal efficiency even more so.
But the guy "Tech Yes City" I think, has demonstrated that.. both Intel and Amd average around the same efficiency when undervolted a teensy bit, almost without losing performance.
This card needs to exist. Nvidia and AMD graphics cards have the market cornered. They are taking advantage of this by charging too much. Intel could really shake them up if they have the courage to continue with these cards.
What makes you think Intel would be any better? Given Intel's history with CPU pricing, if they become a competitor they would also join in on exploiting demand.
@@viet0necouldn't have said it better these people treat intel like a small charity
@@viet0ne Exactly. Intel is only cheaper because they're the underdog and they need to entice people to actually buy their products. They're playing catch-up when they've just been lapped and haven't even gotten off the starting line. If they get any sizeable market share, expect them to charge what the competition is charging because, just like AMD and NVIDIA, they will be able to get away with it.
If anything, Nvidia is, yes, but I paid 200 for an 8GB gpu from amd, which is cheaper than the same from intel, so they arent the small comapny, they are the monopoly that amd came to fix.
@@viet0ne More choices should be better for consumers and for the the advancement of the technology itself. 3 companies chasing market share should = at least some slow down of the price increases.
The more competition the better. I hope they continue strong efforts.
No doubt. - Back in the day there war many GPU Companies (ie: 3Dfx, ATI, Trident, TSeng, Matrox, PowerVR Kyro, etc..)
Nice to see a company trying to improve and listening to consumers/reviewers!
If Intel are still listening, Hear us when we say, Intel Arc sucks and has since Day 1.
If thousands of consumers are gonna be your alpha and beta testers, you could have at least sold them the graphics cards 'at cost'.
@@garyb7193I think everyone knows that but not many care really
Until they gain a good marketshare
@@garyb7193ofc they will suck ...its their first after all, look at AMD, their sofwares were dogshits and uncompatible with ppl works many times, took them years to fix it. Everyone gonna be alpha and beta test at some point
@@garyb7193 Wtf are you on? We say lol speak for yourself. Do you not see that their basically giving these cards away? and what new piece of tech/game does not have any alpha/beta testers in its early stages? Its called improving each reiteration until its stable, The first NShidia cards and AMD cards faced the same dilemma Einstein.
I was an early adopter of the Ark A750, two weeks after market release. As well detailed in video, for the first two months the bulk of issues were with the control software, which I deleted straight away after each driver update. With a clean driver only install, the A750 has performed well since the beginning. And Intel's commitment to driver updates has been terrific. No regrets. Runs Baldur's Gate 3 like a champ. Looking forward to Battlemage series!
Helps a ton to see real user commentary like this! Awesome to hear it's working out for you.
@@GamersNexushave one coming in soonish. Plan in using it predominantly for machine learning. Quite a journey for data scientists there.
I'm sure a few of the oddities I have on either system I've been using could be resolved if I just installed drivers and nothing else. Like Nvidia experience or AMD's Adrenaline software.
sure does solve alot, been using nvcleanstall to install driver only for years since I don't use any geforce experience features and have only had 1 driver issue since with youtube videos that was quickly fixed in the last 7 years lol.@@ArtisChronicles
What's your FPS avg on BG3?
Thank you so much for doing another video on the Intel Arc series. I've been an A770 LE user from day one. It's been rough but the recent improvements make it all worth it for the most part.
Can you please continue to include the A770 (I know it can't be bought new anymore) in your tests when you test the A750 or any next gen Battlemage cards? 😉
Same here!!!! love my A770
A770 LE GANG!!
How does it worth it tho?
The ARC cards are becoming a favorite of Stable Diffusion users, especially the A770. And performance continues to improve.
I wonder how much of the A770 16GB has gone to people for inference. It's certainly a lot nicer than the 800+ bucks everyone else wants for 16GB, and there's a lot of performance left on the table. Also, I'm pretty sure most of the optimization works across their entire product stack, from iGPU to Ponte Vecchio.
I dont regret buying an Arc A770 pretty early. It was quite the journey but it actually sparked my interest and i learned a lot more about how drivers work and how to analyse and fix issues. By now it is running smooth. A Clean driver install every now and then is all i have to do but i did that with amd and Nvidia cards before aswell. Lets Hope they keep up with it. They certainly showed that they listen and work a lot to improve... That they care. And i like that thought
15:14 Correction: Initially, they used a DX9-11-to-DX12 translation layer at launch, but due to unsatisfactory results, they later switched to DXVK-a DX9-11-to-Vulkan translation layer developed by Valve for the Linux platform. This allows Windows titles to run on Linux platforms using Proton (Wine) and also enables the utilization of DX9-11 backends for native Linux ports.
The Linux D3D8 and D3D9 wrappers are just more optimized than Intel's was, same idea but why re invent the wheel when an excellent performing and highly compatible wrapper already existed. The D3D 8 and 9 performance boost in windows came when Intel ditched their own wrapper and baked the linux wrapper into their Windows drivers. The ironic thing is that wrappers often work better than native DirectX 8 and 9 on current windows because MS has stopped maintaining it and a lot of older games perform badly with it or are just outright broken.
Valve didn't create DXVK, but it's used by Proton which was developed by them.
@@offspringfan89 They didn't create it but they did make sure it continued on by hiring the developer behind it.
I am so thankful for valve. Linux gaming would be so much less of a reality without them, and to be honest it doesn’t feel like they really *had* to pick Linux - they could’ve just went with mobile windows for the steam deck for example. So awesome that they’re willing to put in the effort.
@@Bvngeeif you think about it, if they went with Windows they'd have to pay more and increase prices for windows licensing. It was probably a business decision, but definitely one I support and am very thankful for.
For a first gen product I am impressed with Intel cards so far.
Because it’s not really a first gen product. Internally it was “take integrated graphics and throw the cores away”
@@someusername121 didn't they attempt something similar in the past? So it sort of wasn't their first run at it any way you slice it. Difference is this is being publicly sold while the other project wasn't.
That's far from the truth. Yes, it's based on their integrated graphics architecture, but only in the way that Nvidia's Ada is based on Ampere, Turing, or Pascal. It's a different architecture, certainly not just take away the CPU cores. That's what DG1 was.
@John-PaulHunt-wy7lf They are unlikely to dethrone Nvidia, as long as Nvidia chooses to stay in the consumer GPU market. Intel, more than any other tech company, understands just how powerful being the dominant market leader is, since that has been their own position in the consumer CPU market since forever. Nvidia owns something like 80-85% of the consumer GPU market. And Nvidia is likely developing their own GPU technology faster than Intel is (or even can).
Really hope Intel continues to improve Arc because it’s has some serious potential and more competition in the market is always better for the consumer.
You're doing the Lord's work on your channel, keep doing the great job!
The funny thing is no one really knows and won't know how truly capable the Arc Alchemist architecture is.
As explained to me, a few bugs in the arch design is holding the rest of it back, which also leads to no one really knowing how fast these would be without these bugs.
@@offspringfan89 thanks I will
Great job, Intel ARC Drivers team listening to feedback and addressing so many issues. I purchased an A770 around launch with the hope that it would keep getting better and you haven’t disappointed. Finally at the point now where I can recommend these cards to friends looking for budget builds
Should i get a770 for video editing? I use premiere pro and after effects
I can get an Intel ARC 770 16gb for $200+ at Best Buy.
Definitely will be picking one of these up.
Any recommendation on a MOBO? I'll be using a 13th Gen I5.
@@tawsikabdullah I don't use A770, but using A750. And yeah, it works like a champ. It smoothly renders PTS, AI, PR and AE. The largest render I did after using Arc750 is 4K 60FPS 25 minutes long, and no problem. So yeah I recommend A750/770. Just remember that you have to update the intel driver, or it gonna be a disaster with stock driver.
@@acardenasjr1340 I recommend the Gigabyte Z790 UD, just notice that Gigabyte software is kinda ... sucks. It's not bad at the level that brick the PC or can not use, but sucks, but cheaper than Asus or MSI. My specs are: Gigabyte Z790 UD, Intel Arc 750, I5 13K, and 32GB DDR5.
Was hoping to see an Intel GPU revisit sometime soon, awesome timing. Thanks, Steve!
I bought an ASROCK A770 last month doing a new build.
7800X3D, 670E Steel Dragon, 6000MHz Team T Force DDR5, 4TB WD SSD, 8TB HDD, Corsair 4000D with 4 fans and 850PSU bundle, with a Corsair 3fan rad for my CPU.
Excited to build it when I get off work in 2 weeks. Board and cpu just got to my house today. First build in 10 years.
Thanks Steve. As a proud owner of 2 Intel shares, I'll make sure your concerns are communicated to the board.
Hold on, you aren't the final decision maker?
Can’t wait for battlemage!
Looking forward to benchmarking it!
I bought my A770 a year ago and I'm happy to see the huge improvements Intel has made since then. I'm anxiously waiting for the Battlemage release.
I'm waiting for Battlemage before I go and replace my RTX 2080.
@@PixelatedWolf2077 I am on a gtx 1660TI laptop , waiting for battlemage to make my first PC build , and will get a CPU from AMD to support the competition on both GPU and CPU sides.
It's noticeable how much work Intel has been putting into Arc, and I commend them for it. I don't own one of their cards yet but will most likely be buying a Battlemage card when they come out, to upgrade from my 2070 Super.
Great video! I've been looking forward to periodic Intel ARC revisits from various tech media, especially GN. It has been very interesting watching the steady improvement across the past year with DX9 and DX11 optimizations as well as general stability. The fact that intel has demonstrated that they're willing to constantly improve the Alchemist GPUs is very encouraging for current users and the future.
7:25
Editing like this gets the most unexpected bursts of laughter out of me
same lmao, no cap
Didn't get it 😢
I would love to see a detailed video on graphics card driver development! What is actually happening in the driver code to increase gaming performance? Show an example... What is the relationship between hardware, Microsoft DirectX, and the driver? Would be a really cool and educational video. Thanks for the considerations!
Yeah!
Do they change code path and how, what order they execute certain things etc… or is it too much company secret thing?
Would love that too actually
This is such a great video. Thanks so much for following up! Tons of great info here - just interesting stuff for the geek in me that loves just hearing about hardware
Really glad you decided to revisit this. It's interesting to see how intel is really doing with their long term goals against AMD and Nvidia. Thanks again, Steve!
Regarding the issues ARC still has with some older titles that run with DX-11 or 9, a usable workaround for those games is to run them via DXVK. It's a "translater" that basically makes those games run with the Vulkan API instead of DirectX. It was originally created to make it easier to run games on Linux but it has made its way over to windows ages ago.
They integrated DXVK directly into the driver earlier this year. Much bigger difference compared to release for older games
I'm 53 owned a computer building Co in the 90's (8th largest us importer from tiawan ) have degrees in engineering and computer science and I have been programming since I was ten..
I kinda laugh because at first it was just like what Nvidia and and drivers used to be like. You had to carefully tweak and configure most games.
Intel haD the same issue. But fixed them very quickly.
No game in my hugged collection has trouble running and running well abd that's been the case since March!..
I thing those who only use these to test these don't understand the cards , I wonder if they removed the Nvidia drivers properly or have some other configuration problems because often my tests and benchmarks far outshine those from here!
I remember getting literally twice the fps for God of war than the benchmark with the same hardware and driver version !
@@koto483 So Intel is probably going to be worth it then when next gen drops? I was worried about DX9 support
Got to say, Intel ARC is the most exciting thing in the GPU space these days, it's our best hope for more reasonable GPU prices.
Why is ARC exiting? They still can't compete with a 6600 or 6650XT. If they were at least cheaper than AMD's cards.
@@nipa5961wrong
"You can't have bugs if you don't have features" - I spit a mouthful of food out, laughing.
as admin, or maker, never give the user something you are forced to take away ...but its not like intel planned it.
I love that this is both critical and encouraging in tone. That's how you do it.
i love my A750 and i’m still looking forward to the future. seriously please. shareholders i’m begging
So are we all. The last thing we need now is for Intel to throw in the towel.
Same
7:24 this made me laugh back then. This makes me laugh right now. The intel guy's "NO CAP!" is hilarious.
As it stands, Arc GPUs are already nipping at Nvidia's heels in terms of productivity suite (AV1 encoding on the cheap, QuickSync being pretty close to CUDA), so if they were able to get their gaming drivers up to snuff, and maintain their price point, they could take a LOT of market share. I bought an a750, and it's had its issues, but having access to AV1 encoding for $200, for my broke ass self doing some content on the side, has been an absolute godsend. Meanwhile, production wise, AMD is off in a corner, eating glue paste...
All I'm saying is, Intel GPUs could bring the fight to Nvidia in a way that AMD either can't or won't, and I sincerely hope they succeed. I did my part in supporting their cause. I very much want to see what they bring out next.
I recently bought an Intel ARC A310 low-profile GPU for DaVinci Resolve 422 10bit HEVC footage and it has tremendously sped up editing and exporting.
With my RTX 3090 and the Intel GPU in my 2nd 16x slot It has been literally trouble-free. Not the same to be said about AMD RX 6900 XT with the ARC GPU....
10/10
For what it's worth it can do 120FPS in CS2 at 1080P low settings!
Awesome about the acceleration in Resolve! We're hoping to try something similar for our own video pipeline, although unfortunately we don't use DaVinci! Super helpful comment to share your Arc experience. Thanks for posting!
I'm on AMD 5700G for the moment with DaVinci till GPU are decent priced with AV1 hardware encoding. Would you recommend I buy the fastest arc I can afford? Or should I save up for Nvidia 30/40 series?
@@HaroldKuilman I bought my ASRock Intel ARC A310 from Amazon for $104 shipped to my door. It has been a phenomenal piece of equipment to say the least. From 20+ hour video edits down to 8 hours for 15 minute long videos. Simply because it doesn't pause or freeze anymore!
@@yasha1928 I'll have to go for a faster one, without a 3090 next to it, but good to hear it's stable now. When it released it wasn't.
What I really love about the a770 is it does hardware transcoding on my plex server. it’s been a workhorse
is there any special trick for making this work?
Good to see the improvements Intel has been making. I've got a 770 LE in a secondary machine since last year and it's been awesome - very happy to support a third GPU vendor. Keep it up Intel!
Yeah have to add one thing here. Artic Liquid coolers are for sure among the best I've used. Great product! As a enthusiast myself I want intel to be extremely competitive. I'm sure we all here want this. lets hope it happens!
A770 is doing well for me. That Halo update the other week was the only major issue I had left so glad that's solved. My only minor issue is that the drive auto update fails to work every other update (Check appears to timeout for ever until a manual update is done, then it works until and auto update happens and is then broken again until a manual update is done.) The does mean you can go several weeks without realising a driver update is out.
Thing is of course that once they offer an actual competitive product in terms of hardware, drivers and support..... they will up the price accordingly.
That's fine, as long as they get there. Their presence should still help keep NVIDIA and AMD in check when needed.
@@GamersNexusboy i wish i shared this faith in market forces lol
@@GamersNexusWhen AMD was way behind Nvidia, that was the dream. That once AMD can compete with Nvidia, prices will go down, now AMD is price fixing just like Nvidia.
@iyoub6931 OK, this is another reason for Intel to disrupt the market and put them in check :)
@@cashnelson2306 Oligopoly is much harder to pull off than duopoly and especially monopoly. It doesn't matter if it's electronics or fruits.
Been running an A770 since February and I honestly can't see myself going back to nVidia any time soon after being a customer of theirs for over 20 years.
For their first gen of GPUs this is quite good result. Drivers are mostly fixed, and the architecture has probably a lot of space for further optimization (kinda like first gen ryzen). I'm really looking forward to their next gen release
From a software development perspective, the fact that they focus on specific games isn't in itself a problem. There are 2 approaches that can be taken here: the good one is to use the specific games to reproduce certain issues or edge cases, and use that to fix or optimize the general driver. This way, fixes done in one game are likely to improve the compatibility and performance in multiple games. The bad approach is to simply detect what particular game is running, and do game specific optimizations. This wouldn't improve the drivers for any other game, it's a lot of wasted effort optimizing individual titles, and would add a lot of bloat to the drivers.
Great re review Steve. I’ve been tempted to buy an ARC GPU since launch and now there’s support for Adobe Premiere Pro, the only thing holding me back is that Battlemage is likely not that far off 😁 I don’t want to be stuck with a last gen ARC card. Will instead stick with my 6700XT for a little longer.
Arc review is brought to you by ARCtic cooling. A pity you didn't benchmark it on ARK.
Steve from Intel here, I just want to say thank you for your in depth look back at ARC! We are already reviewing and implementing support tickets based on your feedback and recognize how valuable it is. We will compete even stronger with BattleMage!! We’ve listened and DX9 support will be enabled on future cards (/s)
Just bought the Asrock 16gb version of the A770 and it's amazing, really stable for normal tasks (like watching this video) and it runs the games I play at full 144hz 1440p with only 60-65C temps.
Bro now also is it working fine ???
@@centurieos701 wdym now also? That was only 3 weeks ago lol
Fine Wine is slowly turning blue
On my buy list is Epyc 7002 32cores++, MB, 256GB ECC RAM, Arc A380 for transcoding.
And all of the components are going to be 2nd hand. This costs around 1000-1300€.
Best option for cheap and efficient transcoding if you have no intel iGPU
been using a 750 at work.
pretty happy with it
Agreed. I hope Intel keeps up with their developments. The bit of loss for the next few years is worth it. I'd strongly consider something in the next generation if there was enough improvement.
Thanks for the video I was able to just pick up a arc a750 for 122 good to see what I should expect with it.
Hey Intel, if you're reading these comments, please know that we are rooting for you to achieve a competitive position.
There's so much value to be gained from the process alone, your other offering will improve in ways you would never have forecast if not for your efforts on the Arc lineup.
Excited to follow the continued development, keep up the effort, it will pay off in the end.
Arc must never cease to exist, like they really shouldn't be ignored.
They need to prove themselves then
It will continue to be ignored until it actually does something. Not just an applaud for showing up.
The fact that Nvidia already tried pushing their AIBs to not use Intel GPUs says that Intel GPUs are definitely a good thing.
It should definitely stop if it doesn't make them profits. That 401k is not going to grow by itself 😉
I wish this was an Intel Arc benchmarks video, also... Missed the chance to mention the grown list of XeSS supported games
I have the intel A770 for about a year and it has been great so far. The improvement since i got it has been amazing. Only issue i have now is Arc Control cant find the new drivers anymore and i have to go and download them manually
I bought an A750 over the summer and it’s been great for light 1080p gaming. You nailed it though, what got me was the idea of playing with something new and different
I bought an A580 shortly after launch, when it went on a surprise sale on Newegg. I loved the card SO much that, as a show of support, I went on to buy an A770 to really play around with, and eventually an A750 and A380. I'm only one customer that makes a near-zero influence on their bottom line, but it's not zero, and I want to back my money on this product line along with others to let those who ultimately make the final calls know there is a hungry market here, ready to pay.
I upgraded my rx560 to a a750 and thank god I took some CIS classes. A lot of troubleshooting was required but after a few days and a lot of tests, It runs CS great and efficiently.
Thanks guy who asked!
Dosbox! Dosbox! Dosbox! I guess I'm the only person that will stand up for Dosbox, because I never hear anyone else mention that Dosbox quit working with Arc in Windows 10 since driver 4676. I really like my Intel Arc a750 a lot, but hope they fix the Dosbox problem or I'll have to switch back to my AMD card.
I'm getting Battlemage when it comes out!
The moment the more major issues mentionned in this video are fixed, imo, this could spell a general recommendation!
And I really hope Battlemage delivers even more performance per dollar and make AMD and nVidia sweat bullets.
Agreed. I really want to see Intel focus on the core performance of its cards. The budget and mid range markets have a lot of opportunity for them to gain a foothold and develop some loyalty
My A750, with some of the most recent patches, is amazing. Absolutely love it.
Probably late watching this, but we have a A770 in our media/family gaming PC. It is using an Epson LS12000 as a monitor. We got it soon after release and had some problems early on with some games, but no issues with the projector. Intel has been fantastic with driver updates. Issues with games like Madden were fixed and now we really only have issues running older games.
The nice thing with DSA is that it won't install updates on it's own, it'll just send you some notifications if you have updates. It at least works way better than AMD's solution, which just doesn't seem to notify you at all.
"You can't have bugs when you don't have features." -- I will use this at the next software design review I am a part of.
Glad to see this come out. I got some wild comments when I decided to build with an Arc a750 instead of nVidia to save some money with people saying everything from "supporting intel isn't helping the video card situation since they are a huge company", "just get a 3070", "just get an AMD", "intel cards don't count as gaming cards" yet I've been pretty happy with its performance.
This DirectX talk just shows how fucking amazing Proton is and valve is going everyone a solid by making and support it.
it does indeed show how difficult it is to put an (at first) unknown GPU onto this wide market.
up until now i've been praising intel for their hard work, fixing major bugs, improving performance and stability and relative consistent driver updates over time.
It is true dedication.
I've been using an A750 in my Linux machine for about 6 months and never had any issues with it. In comparison to my 7900XTX in my gaming rig, which now is great both hardware and drivers, the Intel card just worked. For a new card on the market, pretty decent. I use the Linux computer for 3D modeling and printing and I'm happy with it.
I had my doubts, but they fixing this on the driver level and not just fixing it on the next version of Arc is a huge plus with me. Too many bad memories of the Sound Card era where you often got 1 set of drivers
Intel: "We have decades of experience making graphics drivers."
Also Intel: "It'll be a labor of love for pre-DX12 games to be made functional."
I've generally had a pretty smooth experience with my A750. Some minor issues I've come across in games is fire/laser effects not displaying properly in RE5, and some visual bugs in RPG Maker MV (though I haven't tried after the recent update).
The only major issue I've had is display issues with my monitor through HDMI, because the HDMI port on the GPU is actually a DisplayPort going through an adaptor. The issues were fixed when I switched to using one of the three DisplayPort ports
I really hope Intel sticks with arc, its gotten a pretty good start, considering the rocky launch. Its already eaten up 6% of the steam GPU database.
ARC doesn't show up in the Steam hardware survey. You're looking at total percentage users of each brand which includes every iGPU still in use. Edit: Xe users make up 1.41 percent of the market, that's technically ARC.
@@nimroderyThe Xe branding is also on many of the Intel mobile igpus. So most of those are not actually Arc.
@@nimrodery even 1.4% is really impressive for a first launch
Just bought an A580 off of TikTok for $120 after discounts. They sold me on their consistent updates and their price. If the card performs well enough I’ll probably buy their next gen’s high tier card.
Of the people I know to have purchase Arc cards almost exclusively bought A380's for video encode/transcode, either in stream rigs/NVR/Plex servers
The ability to drop in AV1 quicksync is a godsend
Thanks gamers nexus for doing this 1 year update but I am glad I decided to go all out with an all white 4090/ 7800x3d/ 64 gig ddr5 build so I don't have anything to worry about.
Intel ARC is the only GPU I have yet to buy, and am most excited to. It's one of those things where you know it isn't super powerful at the moment, but it still kicks ass either way. Easily a pick for me, knowing the disadvantages, still worth it!
😂 ok
I purchased the A770LE in December of 2022 because it was the most interesting card to me in that price-range.
It has proven to be a great card for what I do.. I've enen used it in WMR successfully.
I basically run racing simulations...Assetto Corsa, Assetto Corsa Competizioni, Automobilista2, Rfactor2, RaceRoom Edition and Live for Speed.
Of those titles, RF2 was the only one that would not launch initially. None of the others have crashed once in use.
I went in expecting some issues for a brand new product but was quite lucky....and surprised at the same time.
Is it all smooth sailing? No... The niggles I've encountered are just that...niggles.
The first three drivers could not be installed using the Intel driver installer. It'd crash during the hardware information collection phase and go into a reboot loop
I had to extract the driver using 7-zip...then manually install. Intel would put up links to updated drivers, which would go to the old driver. Silly things.....
Smooth Sync I hope follows through
The fact that a first gen card is this good is impressive, and they have been doing lots of stuff to make them good with video editing programs like Premiere (a constant complaint from me about AMD and the reason I can’t leave Nvidea yet). People forget or weren’t there to experience it back when stuff like this was the Wild West so to speak in the 90’s and 2000’s
I know I’m a little late but I’m cheering for intel 100% so awesome to watch the start up of a new gpu brand with such dominant companies controlling the gpu market. Keep on pushing intel! You will succeed!!
FYI if you click the little narrow button to the right of the time and date on the start bar it will minimize every window.
I’m not a gamer and I love my A770 LE. The great build quality, nice RGB and looks. I even bought a A750 LE as a spare GPU. It still sits in its unopened box. I like having spare parts for my computers. That’s why I also have a 3700X as a spare, but that one has been used. I have been using Intel CPUs since I started playing with computers 30 years ago. The 3700x was my first AMD CPU ever. Now I’m using 2 5950X systems and a 5700G system. And Beelink mini computers with an AMD 5500U CPU and an AMD 5560U CPU. Plus some older Intel systems and a new Intel CPU Lenovo Ideapad Slim laptop.
17:15 While I don't have an Arc card, I use the Arc drivers for onboard graphics on my laptop, and it just didn't stop. Tried a lot of fixes, but none worked, until I just upgraded from
the Windows Home edition that my laptop shipped with to Windows Professional and changed the group policy settings so Windows won't update my drivers. So far so good, I think it is also in part fault of Windows, not just Intel.
I purchased an A770 LE at launch. I've not had many problems with it. Horizon Zero Dawn, Tomb Raider, Command & Conquer 3, and others all run just fine. I tend to run games at 4k medium settings. Ironically given your comments about game incompatibility is that the A770 allows me to play the original Far Cry which I cannot do on my RTX 4090 - on the latter system the game just fails to launch.
The "Windows Update downgrading the driver issue" isn't exclusive to Intel ARC GPUs, AMD Radeon GPUs have this issue as well. The workaround I use is just to disconnect from the internet, run DDU in safe mode, install the driver then reconnect to the internet.
My suspicion is that this is more of a Windows issue than an Intel or AMD issue as blocking driver updates in Windows doesn't actually stop driver updates, Windows basically ignores its own settings.
They’ve come this far, it would be silly to can it now, for a first gen product it seems overall pretty decent and and I can’t help but think their 2nd gen will be leaps and bounds better again. Plus surely what they learn will make its way into other products of theirs as well. Keen to see Arc continue.
I just bought the A750 for my streaming rig just because it can encode AV1 and it is a little monster ! Coincidently my gaming rig had a warranty issue with the Mobo so I've actually started gaming on my streaming rig and even on an old 8700k with the A750 I would not be disappointed if I was just getting into PC gaming even at 1440p
I've been running Acer Predator Arc A770 for like 8 months and I've been really satisfied with performance.
Intel Arc team pulled a No Man's Sky and has gotten enough fixed that it's a valid GPU now. Play the price into the equation and you've got a very good launching point for when Battlemage comes to play. The A750 was a whim purchase for me but I've been happy with it. I tried a week of gaming on it. Some issues but nothing a fast Google search didn't give me a three step solution for. I threw it into the home server. Better for Plex transcoding than the old 1050 Ti I had in there. (Nothing earth shattering but enough no one in the house noticed when I swapped them)
I have ordered Core i5 12400f and Arc A750 so this video helps me to what to do and what not to do.
This is something I am interested in personally, seeing what happened 1 year later is a great idea for some next gen or new competitor hardware... Thanks Gents!
17:26 - Speaking of Windows messing with drivers, it either downgraded or upgraded my Radeon ones which made the system unusable. Manually installing the driver version I was using before that resolved the issue. Never had that happen before
I bought an ARC 750 last week, seems quite nice so far, apart from a "can't wake up from monitor sleep" issue (I'm on Linux)
Would be incredibly happy if Intel played to their strengths & used the fabs to make a massive GPU core. Preferably on a advanced node with extreme OC support.
I hope these continue to gain market share.
Finishing my first new build in close to a decade to replace my 3570k/GTX970. Picked up an ARC750 Limited Edition for $150 yesterday to go with my 13700k. Figure it will be a huge upgrade over my GTX970 and at $150, hold me over until everyone's next gen comes out.
The "No cap" moment was entierly too good