Yep it's one of the things that makes them one if the more human space marines to me at least... maybe that's why the grimdark addicted fans don't like them 😂
His growing relationship with the ultramarine tetrarch felix was also a highlight of that book although the splitting up of the greyshields was a sad moment.
As someone who’s favorite legion is the Space Wolves I can agree they are kinda repetitive especially in their naming but I have to say all the characters I’ve read about are amazing
True. I loved the SW when Abnett wrote them. they felt like vikings and warriors and didn't use the wolf meme. And in a way the meme serves the purpose of hiding the real purpose of the SW. An all around tactical squad. But sadly even the new writers seem to just see the meme! Wolf wolf wolf wolf wolf wolf 🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺 😢
I think the wolf and werewolf aspect is really cool but I also wish they would focus far more on the Viking stuff. Especially because in Warhammer the old world Norsca the Viking faction was actually predominantly chaos undivided, so I find it really interesting that GW took what was essentially a chaos faction and made them into the most loyal of loyalists
Reading dark imperium right now coincidentally, he actually is a pretty cool character from what I have seen. Not the biggest fan of the wolves but he is a very cool character.
I don't really understand the hate the wolves get they just seem more human (or at least from the old lore I use to read) they drunk they party they chase women then they go and beat the enemy into the ground like a spike rinse repeat
@@oga-booga the Grey knights were going to exterminate an entire planet who fought off a chaos incursion the wolves were not having any of that and proceeded to kick seven shades of shit out if them even killed the Grey knights leader I belive.
I can recommend the rest of the trilogy, that is "Plague War" and "Godblight". Solid story ark, a great insight into Guilliman (who is NOT a Mary Sue), and just overall very 40K.
I like Sargent Gaius from "the wolf time" by gav Thorpe, literally covers the primaris initial rejection by the first born and subsequent acceptance. Big part of the latter being caused by gaius after he throws a hissy fit at being rejected so much that he basically self administers the test of morkai - literally jumps out a thunder hawk mid argument in his undersuit then goes on to kill sea serpants, a blackmane thunderwolf (who else is famous for that? Ragnar?) and ultimately proving the primaris loyalty to wolves instead of roboute by murdering some imperium soldiers forcibly detaining a fenrisian "gothi" or shaman, ie psyker). The whole time you're routing for him and his odyssey is brilliant
When I heard that space wolves can have lore friendly successors now, i motioned to make a chapter based around the aesthetics and lore of Artorias the Abysswalker of dark souls, also known as the Wolf Knight. My idea being that they might be a chapter dedicated to patroling a warp rift and taking care of anything that might crawl out of it. And then i read about the goddamn wolf spear...
I really like these new waves of stories about primaris marines coming out lately, some of the fan mades are honestly my favorites, like The Son of the Phoenix and His Angels Comics, it's pretty heartwarming to see the bonds battle brothers form in the first one, and kinda nice to see a firstborn marine passing his knowledge and the spirit of what their chapter represents to a primaris, on the second one. Have you thought about covering fan made stuff like that some time? it would be super interesting to hear your thoughs on them!
Cheating a bit here but my favorite "primaris marine" you could look into is Alpha Primus. He's the prototype for all other Primaris Space Marines. He's now a personal assistant, agent and body guard of Belisarius Cawl. He a miserable frankenstein's monster like character and I'd love more of him. He shows up in the short story "To Speak As One" and a couple of chapters in "Belisarius Cawl: The Great Work"
Its an older book now, but you may enjoy the Blood of asheim(sp?). Its about a space wolf returning to his squad of grey hunters after serving the deathwatch for 50 years
Honestly a great reason why I like the Primaris They aren't going to replace the First Born But they did add a lot more story telling ingredients to the setting which I love
For a similar story-arc there is Bellisarius Cawl The Great Work. One gets a good understanding for the feelings of a doomed chapter, that, in their view, failed and vows to make good on their mission. Cawl is always great of course but he has a Primaris sidekick, who is basically a pre-launch version and not quite ready to cooperate with his fellow marines. Throw in some Tyranid shenanigans and it's a compelling story.
@06:14 imagine fighting these guys with little to no prior knowledge and you target their medics. Look at that medic. It's probably the last thing you're lookint so just enjoy.
I know at the very least two chaos wolves if I recall. Theres the Blood Wolves. Are they still around? Don't think so, but they were a thing. We don't even know what happened to Svane Vulfbad to my knowledge, he's presumed dead.
Gotta say i love when you do videos for individuals characters more than the legions xd I think tour way of telling the stuff is better for individuals than for whole legions since they have so much stuff
Dark Imperium is a great read. I did a lot of reading into the gray shields in an effort to make myself like the primaris marines. It worked, and now I really like them. I appreciate the hopeful attitude the gray shields had when they showed up after being in stasis forever and not being made cold and calloused by centuries of endless war. That being said, Farren from War of Secrets is also pretty cool and exemplifies my point, but assuming he counts, no other primaris marine is cooler to me than Alpha Primus. The prototype for all primaris marines from Belasarius Cawl: The Great Work. Such a cool and mysterious character, and being a step above the other primaris marines, I really wonder how he's fare against a custodes.
@@starhammer5247 If you’re interested I REALLY recommend reading Belasarius Cawl: The Great Work, it’s a pretty interesting read and it’s available on audiobook. It’s been a while but from what I remember Alpha Primus was the first primaris marine Cawl created. He was the prototype so he’s a little bit above mainline primaris marines, almost like he’s a single step closer to primarch. He’s larger and stronger than primaris marines and wears all gray armor. Looking him up briefly to refresh my memory, he wasn’t created using geneseed but instead through genetic modification similar to Custodes, and he’s also a very strong psyker, but he’s also in constant physical pain due to side effects from his creation. Cawl uses him as an assistant and bodyguard so he has a lot of knowledge most in the imperium don’t. As a character he’s the strong silent type; speaks little and is just all around mysterious.
Say what you want about the spacewolves, they are the best friendos to have. Ask the Guardsmen from Armageddon (That survived the inquisitor dickhead and equally dickish Greyknight Grandmaster) . They like you enough, and they'll snarlcharge anyone for you.....ANYONE AND ANYTHING. I've read 58 40k books and I gotta say, even if you think they are one dimensional, that one dimesion also leaves them as a consistent protagonist in the 40k universe, you know what they're going to do when they approach a situation, but god damn i enjoy what they do lol.
Nice video, Im personally not a big fan of the space wolfs . I dont hate them but i dont really like them either. However its also nice to see some coverage of the lesser known characters.
It’s kinda amazing how the successor chapters are in general more interesting than most*of the og legions tbh *Dark angels, salamanders and white scars are pretty dope
Technically they have 2 and a half. The Blood Wolves exist in addition to Skyrar, and the Wolf Brothers was disbanded with many turning to Chaos and, get this, siding with the *Thousand Sons*
After you finish up with the Alpha Legion you should cover some of the most popular Marine Legions that aren't apart of the first founding or the ones you find most interesting Like the Black Templar, Blood Ravens, Minotaurs, Lamenters, Soul Drinkers, Marines Malevolent, and the Legion of the Damned
So, I actually have a fan made space marine chapter from the cursed founding that comes space wolves gene seed. Unlike the space wolves they aren't pseudo vikings with a wolf fetish, but similarly to the space wolves they are raging alcoholics. In fact this chapters main gene flaw is that they are all compelled to consume insane quantities of alcohol to the point where their belchers gland mutated to burn it allowing them to breath what is effectively napalm onto their foes. Additionally, their consumption of alcohol has unintended effects it shouldn't have such as increased strength, speed, and reflexes. It also makes them increasing resistant to the warp, and makes their psykers incredibly stable allowing them to not hold back. Their chapter master is a mountain of a man who happens to be a psyker that gets incredibly accurate visions of the future from getting black out drunk. Basically, imagine somebody about a head or two shorter than Tyboros the red wake who shoots lightning out of dick while drunk as all hell. Their flag ship is called the distillery mainly because it creates thousands of gallons of alcohol a day by methods unknown to the mechanicus. They are definitely not codex compliant on account of the rampant alcoholism, but serve the emperor none the less as the most functional alcoholics in the 42 millennium.
Im more of a Dark Angels fan, so at first i've never been that interested to the Space Wolfs. At a glance they seem brash, 1 dimentional, and comical. But a lot of the fandom seemed to respect them even if they're not a fan of them. I dont really understood at first until i read more of their books. One of the Chris Wraight novel say it well. "And if you’re in the trenches with blood falling out of the sky, ask them who they’d rather have going over the top with them - a Blood Claw who’ll die roaring, or a Dark Angel who never said a word to them the whole time." They're still not my favorite, but I cant help but respect them.
I respect the professionalism and oaths of the Dark Angels but their too paranoid and standoffish for my liking granted the Vylka Fenrika are loud drunk bastards who party hard but they are more human in my view because of it like the Salamanders, Crimson Fist' and Lementers. They're about hearth and brotherhood. I know I hear "hypocrites psykers, dumbass' and wolf wolf wolf and wolf" But hey still my legion besides they really did change after they learned about the truth of Prospero hell Brjorn didn't want to make planet fall on it again out of shame and respect for the dead when they had to investigate the planet again. Another case Logan Grimmnar leading the SW during the months of shame when they fought the Inquisition to the negoiating table to protect the people of Armageddon after Angron said hello. You Dark Angels have been chasing the fallen for the past 10 millennia so I hope the Lion can end that paranoia
Spears of the emperor is one of my favorite books, but another is the dawn of fire novel Wolf Time, it follows both Logan Grimnar meeting Guilliman and the primaris marines he brings with him, as well as a primaris space wolf coming into the chapter and having to learn hes a son of russ but nit a wolf of Fenris because of how much their identity comes from their upbringing on Fenris. Highly recommend if you want a good primaris coming home story
I was not fond of Bjorn’s actions in ‘The Wolftime’ the only living VI Legion marine doesn’t confront the Primarch of the Smurfs but chooses to creep around in the shadows like a bitch? This is the guy who ‘Walked, Ran, Pissed and Killed’ in the age of the Emperor and believed he liked him and probably worked with Guiliman himself during the Scouring - Chooses to hide from him.
@@psychedashell well its the same reason he took a step back from being chapter master though not a single son of Russ would argue about him being it, its time to let the new generation take over, been long past. Bjorn is what made the legion truly into a chapter, he knows Grimnar is capable and it is no longer his place to be the one to say things. I certainly dont remember him hiding from Guillimen at any time, he gave his counsel to his chapter master as one who knew Guillimen 10,000 years ago and let the guy in charge deal with it
@@dakotasargent8459 Bjorn took a step back from being chapter master because he had been put in a Dreadnought and would be spending most of his time in stasis, unable to be the boss. The wolves woke him up to advise them on how to deal with Guiliman and Bjorn did not go out to meet him, not even as Grimnar’s adviser, he was the guy best suited to explain the Wolves concerns about Guiliman screwing with their culture and turning them into ‘Ultramarines in grey paint’.
Uuhhhh....Hi!..... I'm Jake, I really enjoy your content Arthur. A lot of forty k content creators always focus around the same shit, I like learning about some of the lesser known things that happen in the lore. Thanks bud
I remember this story when they get a visit, he gets asked do you have drinks, he says we got ale but you won't like it, was proven right. It was a primaris successors anthology, iirc. Getting to read dark imperium bits soon. In the Battle of the Fang, there's this wolf priest and his "tempering" project which aimed to produce viable space wolf successors. Sadly both he and said project was destroyed in the battle by Magnus and his Thousand Sons. Edit to add: For the more recent lore, good books to read are shroud of night and renegades harrowmaster (especially for the reaction to encountering primaris in battle). Plus they're both alpha legion stuff :P Also the follow-up crimson fists story, when they get their newbloods.
why does everyone hate on the wolves they some the funniest and Closest to humans they drink they eat normal food they just great over all in my opinion but hey im just a nordic/celtic man so 😅 probably why i like them
Possible character unsure of the story, but there is possibly a world eater who didn't have the butcher's nails put in who was taken in by Garro and possibly became apart of the knights errant . Also he might be a thunder warrior
I think Your mixing up two characters, macer varren is the one who got taken by garro, the possible thunder warrior is a guy named endryd harr who was a blackshield
Naw the Space Wolves are my absolute favorite, say what you want but you can't deny that they certainly have an identity, and culture that makes them uniquely their own men. I love that about them for good or bad they do it their own way. My favorite recent example is during the Admittedly heavily mixed writing of the war for the Finish system. When the Iron hands, Space Wolves, and others had to close a massive warp rift with nothing but 2 heavily battered companies. And instead of falling back and playing defense they fucking charged the enemy. And everytime the I.H captain though they where about to die, and fail because "it's impossible" they did it with nothing more than sheer skill at arms, speed, and berserk fury
For me that's kinda the problem, they charge head 1st screaming at an umwinable fight and win just because, when anyone else would die since ferociousity isnt a winning tactic for anyone but them they feel like a parody
@@conradlorgar5508 I mean that is quite literally the reason for their construction. To be able to do what none of the other legions could do, and do it their way. I would probably argue that the World Eaters might have been their mirror match, but sense they were broken, I don't really think you can compare. Plus all things considered, all astatines are considered shock infantry at the end of the day, heavy, powered armored, and "enhanced" shock infantry, but they are none the less. So a Legion leaning into that niece and specializing in it to the point where they can apply that niece to a wide variety of situations is kinda the selling point of the Space marines as a whole. and why they were designed the way that they were. Plus parody or not, they have an iconic and entirely unique, and characterful astatic all their own. Now yes if you don't like the whole techno space viking werewolves theme then your not going to like them. personally i'd only wish that they change some of the damn names to NOT have wolf in it. and maybe design some better power armor for the Wulfen. I don't think wolf shaped helmets fit on anyone but Wolf priests and the Wulfen anyway so i'd kill for a proper powered armored werewolf model.
@@spacewolfblackmane19 ironically pointing at the eaters as their mirrors indicates how shock troopers with similar tactics and way more ferocity take way more deaths dispite doing the same thing, its exactly my point astartes werent made to be shock troopers, that came with the 2nd founding before that they were fully fledged armies and they arent the only ones who embrace the shock trooper thing they are just the ones who do iy to a ridiculous level and come out on top because "ferocity", compare the blood angels and flesh tearers and you see the losses that the wolfs tactics get when its written for anyone but them I agree the obsession with wolves is just getting eye rolling and it doesnt go beyond surface levels or too literal If they were more viking then at least theyd have something more to pull from and the wolf bit used in the same way the egyptian thing is an occasional aesthetic for the thousand sons but not the one single thing that defines them
He also probably wanted to go home beacuse he instinctively knew when the spacewolves arent stomping a mud hole in somones ass and waking it dry they are drinking tellingly stories and bedding women 😂
SW are my first warhammer army, 24 years ago. I feel that, at that time (3rd ed), they were more Wolverine-like but already in 5th edition they were becoming more Thor-like. And that tendency did not stop, but I think it was a bad choice. Something happened, I am not sure when or how, but they changed. They used to be feral above everything else. All about animal instinct, about hunting, about packs. But that is not their focus anymore. Now they are just viking berserks. I mean, they always been berserks, but that felt less relevant than the animalistic side. Or maybe more balanced. For example, before 6-7th? edition, they barely use their own slang. "jarl" was barely mentioned, "Vlka Fenryka" did not mean anything. I think they introduced a lot of words thinking that they will flesh them out better, but it doesn't, is just jargon. It is distractive and does not provide any depth. Also there is the problem that they have been abandoned since 8th edition. How comes that they still do not have their own freaking primaris units? And I don't mean the miniatures (also, that is the easy part, just need upgrade sprues). The basis of the wolves rejecting the codex astartes is that they form packs when they become marines and they spend the rest of their life hunting with the same pack. DO THE SAME! Of course, does doesn't fit very well the specialist primaris squads, but you just to make new names! (the specialist primaris squads do not fit anyway, we want tactical marines, not eldar warriors). Why cannot we have "Primaris Grey Hunters" that can be equipped as any intercessor with long-range weapons? It is a real pity that they are so abandoned by GW
My thoughts on Space Wolves is they should’ve just gone full Viking and nothing really else. It feels like the original pitch for them was “Viking Space Marines but with a little wolf imagery” and then GW went and fucking ran with the Wolf imagery like it was the main bit. Now we can’t do vikings again in the setting because the neishe is being shitly filled by the ultra positive furry wolf boys.
If the Space Wolves never made successors then wtf happened to the legion? They would have had thousands of marines so what did they do just sit on Fenris and dare Girlyman to make them Codex compliant? 😂
Most died in and after the heresy. They split once but have always been larger than a normal chapter. Not as big as the Black Templars though. Over the next 10K years they just absorbed losses till there were around 1500 in the chapter then took Loss after loss in recent lore till they were nearly destroyed so they had to either accept Primaris or die out. They always gave Guilliman the middle finger, even in the current era to the point Guilliman bowed to their Chapter master when they met to keep the peace.
hes primaris and a space wolf hes fundamentally incapable of being interesting they should let the nids eat every single one of them along with fenris and their primarch do anything interesting in the setting, have something slightly grim or dark make the imperium lose anything, anything at all also kill the space wolves, so winwin
I'm so glad there are no female space marines. Otherwise, this character would be a woman- and that would give this story a deeply uncomfortable tinge.
There is an interesting short story about a group of primaris meeting the Black Dragons. It's about them discovering that the Black Dragons are a bit... different.
One thing I can appreciate about the Wolves is their zest for life. I mean, you're gonna die in combat inevitably , so go for it every day. :)
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Yep it's one of the things that makes them one if the more human space marines to me at least... maybe that's why the grimdark addicted fans don't like them 😂
I'm so glad you're covering WolfKing FightWolf Snarltooth and his trusty sidekick Howlmoon Grayfur, they are criminally underrated
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You forgot about Fangfur Howlman, the serious one.
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I'm just getting into the setting and this short story sold me on making a Wolfspear army.
His growing relationship with the ultramarine tetrarch felix was also a highlight of that book although the splitting up of the greyshields was a sad moment.
As someone who’s favorite legion is the Space Wolves I can agree they are kinda repetitive especially in their naming but I have to say all the characters I’ve read about are amazing
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True. I loved the SW when Abnett wrote them. they felt like vikings and warriors and didn't use the wolf meme. And in a way the meme serves the purpose of hiding the real purpose of the SW. An all around tactical squad. But sadly even the new writers seem to just see the meme! Wolf wolf wolf wolf wolf wolf 🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺 😢
I like them because they remind me of a Viking obsessed gym bro frat club
I think the wolf and werewolf aspect is really cool but I also wish they would focus far more on the Viking stuff. Especially because in Warhammer the old world Norsca the Viking faction was actually predominantly chaos undivided, so I find it really interesting that GW took what was essentially a chaos faction and made them into the most loyal of loyalists
Bjorn will honestly forever and always be my favorite Space Marine character. They're not even my favorite chapter, but he's so freaking cool to me.
I like Bjarni Arvisson. Good pup.
who woulda thought, primaris marines could be cool
Reading dark imperium right now coincidentally, he actually is a pretty cool character from what I have seen. Not the biggest fan of the wolves but he is a very cool character.
I don't really understand the hate the wolves get they just seem more human (or at least from the old lore I use to read) they drunk they party they chase women then they go and beat the enemy into the ground like a spike rinse repeat
@@Ghastly_Grinner they go beat thire allies into the ground like a unarmed child then rinse and repeat*
@@oga-booga beat the Grey knights into the ground and just fire on any and all inquisition ships they run into rinse and repeat
@@Ghastly_Grinner shit forgot that they have a friendly fire record in 40k as well.
@@oga-booga the Grey knights were going to exterminate an entire planet who fought off a chaos incursion the wolves were not having any of that and proceeded to kick seven shades of shit out if them even killed the Grey knights leader I belive.
I can recommend the rest of the trilogy, that is "Plague War" and "Godblight". Solid story ark, a great insight into Guilliman (who is NOT a Mary Sue), and just overall very 40K.
The memes and Matt Ward are why everyone thinks he's a Mary Sue.
He isn't a Mary sue. He just got deus ex machina into surviving what might've been mortarions first dub against another primarch.
Would be funny if these drunk space wolves had a land speeder addiction like the khans kids
I have never fallen asleep faster to a show I used to really enjoy
I like Sargent Gaius from "the wolf time" by gav Thorpe, literally covers the primaris initial rejection by the first born and subsequent acceptance. Big part of the latter being caused by gaius after he throws a hissy fit at being rejected so much that he basically self administers the test of morkai - literally jumps out a thunder hawk mid argument in his undersuit then goes on to kill sea serpants, a blackmane thunderwolf (who else is famous for that? Ragnar?) and ultimately proving the primaris loyalty to wolves instead of roboute by murdering some imperium soldiers forcibly detaining a fenrisian "gothi" or shaman, ie psyker). The whole time you're routing for him and his odyssey is brilliant
When I heard that space wolves can have lore friendly successors now, i motioned to make a chapter based around the aesthetics and lore of Artorias the Abysswalker of dark souls, also known as the Wolf Knight. My idea being that they might be a chapter dedicated to patroling a warp rift and taking care of anything that might crawl out of it. And then i read about the goddamn wolf spear...
I really like these new waves of stories about primaris marines coming out lately, some of the fan mades are honestly my favorites, like The Son of the Phoenix and His Angels Comics, it's pretty heartwarming to see the bonds battle brothers form in the first one, and kinda nice to see a firstborn marine passing his knowledge and the spirit of what their chapter represents to a primaris, on the second one.
Have you thought about covering fan made stuff like that some time? it would be super interesting to hear your thoughs on them!
Spear of the emperor is sick, really good read
Cheating a bit here but my favorite "primaris marine" you could look into is Alpha Primus. He's the prototype for all other Primaris Space Marines. He's now a personal assistant, agent and body guard of Belisarius Cawl. He a miserable frankenstein's monster like character and I'd love more of him.
He shows up in the short story "To Speak As One" and a couple of chapters in "Belisarius Cawl: The Great Work"
Huh , when i finished Dark Imperium i always thought what happened to Bjarni. Glad he got his place in the grand scheme of things
Its an older book now, but you may enjoy the Blood of asheim(sp?). Its about a space wolf returning to his squad of grey hunters after serving the deathwatch for 50 years
Honestly a great reason why I like the Primaris
They aren't going to replace the First Born
But they did add a lot more story telling ingredients to the setting which I love
I like the War Hounds. The Space Wolves aren't my favorite but I still enjoy they.
Are we just not gonna talk about Lukas the Trickster? Like, I hate the Wolves, but Lukas is fucking awesome.
For a similar story-arc there is Bellisarius Cawl The Great Work. One gets a good understanding for the feelings of a doomed chapter, that, in their view, failed and vows to make good on their mission. Cawl is always great of course but he has a Primaris sidekick, who is basically a pre-launch version and not quite ready to cooperate with his fellow marines. Throw in some Tyranid shenanigans and it's a compelling story.
The pit of raukus? more like the pit of Ruckus.
Oh god a warp tainted uncle ruckus.
"keep those knife ears out of Nascar"
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@06:14 imagine fighting these guys with little to no prior knowledge and you target their medics.
Look at that medic. It's probably the last thing you're lookint so just enjoy.
I know at the very least two chaos wolves if I recall. Theres the Blood Wolves. Are they still around? Don't think so, but they were a thing. We don't even know what happened to Svane Vulfbad to my knowledge, he's presumed dead.
Gotta say i love when you do videos for individuals characters more than the legions xd
I think tour way of telling the stuff is better for individuals than for whole legions since they have so much stuff
Dark Imperium is a great read. I did a lot of reading into the gray shields in an effort to make myself like the primaris marines. It worked, and now I really like them. I appreciate the hopeful attitude the gray shields had when they showed up after being in stasis forever and not being made cold and calloused by centuries of endless war.
That being said, Farren from War of Secrets is also pretty cool and exemplifies my point, but assuming he counts, no other primaris marine is cooler to me than Alpha Primus. The prototype for all primaris marines from Belasarius Cawl: The Great Work. Such a cool and mysterious character, and being a step above the other primaris marines, I really wonder how he's fare against a custodes.
This is the first I've heard of Alpha Primus. It sorta reminds me of Optimus Prime with that naming convention. Care to tell me about him?
@@starhammer5247 If you’re interested I REALLY recommend reading Belasarius Cawl: The Great Work, it’s a pretty interesting read and it’s available on audiobook. It’s been a while but from what I remember Alpha Primus was the first primaris marine Cawl created. He was the prototype so he’s a little bit above mainline primaris marines, almost like he’s a single step closer to primarch. He’s larger and stronger than primaris marines and wears all gray armor. Looking him up briefly to refresh my memory, he wasn’t created using geneseed but instead through genetic modification similar to Custodes, and he’s also a very strong psyker, but he’s also in constant physical pain due to side effects from his creation. Cawl uses him as an assistant and bodyguard so he has a lot of knowledge most in the imperium don’t. As a character he’s the strong silent type; speaks little and is just all around mysterious.
Say what you want about the spacewolves, they are the best friendos to have. Ask the Guardsmen from Armageddon (That survived the inquisitor dickhead and equally dickish Greyknight Grandmaster) . They like you enough, and they'll snarlcharge anyone for you.....ANYONE AND ANYTHING. I've read 58 40k books and I gotta say, even if you think they are one dimensional, that one dimesion also leaves them as a consistent protagonist in the 40k universe, you know what they're going to do when they approach a situation, but god damn i enjoy what they do lol.
Nice video, Im personally not a big fan of the space wolfs . I dont hate them but i dont really like them either.
However its also nice to see some coverage of the lesser known characters.
It’s kinda amazing how the successor chapters are in general more interesting than most*of the og legions tbh
*Dark angels, salamanders and white scars are pretty dope
They most certainly are not lol?
Course I don't know about Arvison. The way I see it the only good wolf is a dead wolf.
... perhaps I judged him too harshly...
Technically they have 2 and a half. The Blood Wolves exist in addition to Skyrar, and the Wolf Brothers was disbanded with many turning to Chaos and, get this, siding with the *Thousand Sons*
After you finish up with the Alpha Legion
you should cover some of the most popular Marine Legions that aren't apart of the first founding
or the ones you find most interesting
Like the Black Templar, Blood Ravens, Minotaurs, Lamenters, Soul Drinkers, Marines Malevolent, and the Legion of the Damned
I loik muh passively interesting wolf bois.
Pretty much agree here we do. Congratulations 👍
BTW, would love to hear your take on one of my favorite Chapters; The Carcharodon's:)
Logan Grimnar is still alive? He going be soon old as Dante :-P
So, I actually have a fan made space marine chapter from the cursed founding that comes space wolves gene seed. Unlike the space wolves they aren't pseudo vikings with a wolf fetish, but similarly to the space wolves they are raging alcoholics. In fact this chapters main gene flaw is that they are all compelled to consume insane quantities of alcohol to the point where their belchers gland mutated to burn it allowing them to breath what is effectively napalm onto their foes. Additionally, their consumption of alcohol has unintended effects it shouldn't have such as increased strength, speed, and reflexes. It also makes them increasing resistant to the warp, and makes their psykers incredibly stable allowing them to not hold back. Their chapter master is a mountain of a man who happens to be a psyker that gets incredibly accurate visions of the future from getting black out drunk. Basically, imagine somebody about a head or two shorter than Tyboros the red wake who shoots lightning out of dick while drunk as all hell. Their flag ship is called the distillery mainly because it creates thousands of gallons of alcohol a day by methods unknown to the mechanicus. They are definitely not codex compliant on account of the rampant alcoholism, but serve the emperor none the less as the most functional alcoholics in the 42 millennium.
So he learned to be boring instead of being born that way. Weird flex, but ok.
Let me guess... You're started this by rereasing dark imperium? Like i do currently?
Addendum: reached 2:40, and: called it
May we have a video on the knife eared marshmallows
Someone get the salamander away from the eldar children!
Great vid bud
With your comments at the end you reminded me of Dr.Cox from scrubs.
Thank you, Arthur, for pronouncing 'lieutenant' correctly. Thank you. That alone is worth a sub.
I wonder when he will cover the Sad Taxi Bois
Im more of a Dark Angels fan, so at first i've never been that interested to the Space Wolfs. At a glance they seem brash, 1 dimentional, and comical. But a lot of the fandom seemed to respect them even if they're not a fan of them.
I dont really understood at first until i read more of their books.
One of the Chris Wraight novel say it well.
"And if you’re in the trenches with blood falling out of the sky, ask them who they’d rather have going over the top with them - a Blood Claw who’ll die roaring, or a Dark Angel who never said a word to them the whole time."
They're still not my favorite, but I cant help but respect them.
I respect the professionalism and oaths of the Dark Angels but their too paranoid and standoffish for my liking granted the Vylka Fenrika are loud drunk bastards who party hard but they are more human in my view because of it like the Salamanders, Crimson Fist' and Lementers. They're about hearth and brotherhood. I know I hear "hypocrites psykers, dumbass' and wolf wolf wolf and wolf" But hey still my legion besides they really did change after they learned about the truth of Prospero hell Brjorn didn't want to make planet fall on it again out of shame and respect for the dead when they had to investigate the planet again. Another case Logan Grimmnar leading the SW during the months of shame when they fought the Inquisition to the negoiating table to protect the people of Armageddon after Angron said hello.
You Dark Angels have been chasing the fallen for the past 10 millennia so I hope the Lion can end that paranoia
Keep up the great work
If Live! From the Black Library is my Guilliman... Arthur is my Lion
Spears of the emperor is one of my favorite books, but another is the dawn of fire novel Wolf Time, it follows both Logan Grimnar meeting Guilliman and the primaris marines he brings with him, as well as a primaris space wolf coming into the chapter and having to learn hes a son of russ but nit a wolf of Fenris because of how much their identity comes from their upbringing on Fenris. Highly recommend if you want a good primaris coming home story
I was not fond of Bjorn’s actions in ‘The Wolftime’ the only living VI Legion marine doesn’t confront the Primarch of the Smurfs but chooses to creep around in the shadows like a bitch? This is the guy who ‘Walked, Ran, Pissed and Killed’ in the age of the Emperor and believed he liked him and probably worked with Guiliman himself during the Scouring - Chooses to hide from him.
@@psychedashell well its the same reason he took a step back from being chapter master though not a single son of Russ would argue about him being it, its time to let the new generation take over, been long past. Bjorn is what made the legion truly into a chapter, he knows Grimnar is capable and it is no longer his place to be the one to say things. I certainly dont remember him hiding from Guillimen at any time, he gave his counsel to his chapter master as one who knew Guillimen 10,000 years ago and let the guy in charge deal with it
@@dakotasargent8459 Bjorn took a step back from being chapter master because he had been put in a Dreadnought and would be spending most of his time in stasis, unable to be the boss.
The wolves woke him up to advise them on how to deal with Guiliman and Bjorn did not go out to meet him, not even as Grimnar’s adviser, he was the guy best suited to explain the Wolves concerns about Guiliman screwing with their culture and turning them into ‘Ultramarines in grey paint’.
Uuhhhh....Hi!..... I'm Jake, I really enjoy your content Arthur. A lot of forty k content creators always focus around the same shit, I like learning about some of the lesser known things that happen in the lore. Thanks bud
I remember this story when they get a visit, he gets asked do you have drinks, he says we got ale but you won't like it, was proven right. It was a primaris successors anthology, iirc. Getting to read dark imperium bits soon. In the Battle of the Fang, there's this wolf priest and his "tempering" project which aimed to produce viable space wolf successors. Sadly both he and said project was destroyed in the battle by Magnus and his Thousand Sons.
Edit to add: For the more recent lore, good books to read are shroud of night and renegades harrowmaster (especially for the reaction to encountering primaris in battle). Plus they're both alpha legion stuff :P Also the follow-up crimson fists story, when they get their newbloods.
I hope you do more character deep dives.
Yes!!! My beloved Space Wolves😍
can we get a lukas the trickster video please
why does everyone hate on the wolves they some the funniest and Closest to humans they drink they eat normal food they just great over all in my opinion but hey im just a nordic/celtic man so 😅 probably why i like them
Wonder if the man is gonna cover Felix or Justinian from Dark Imperium
War of secrets does have a similar setting to this character but more with a sqd of primarus
Possible character unsure of the story, but there is possibly a world eater who didn't have the butcher's nails put in who was taken in by Garro and possibly became apart of the knights errant . Also he might be a thunder warrior
I think Your mixing up two characters, macer varren is the one who got taken by garro, the possible thunder warrior is a guy named endryd harr who was a blackshield
@@devinneubert8108 thank you I wasn't sure where I had read it and wasn't able to find it last night
Everyone shut up new Arthur bones just dropped. 😎
Man's traded alpha legion for the furries.
Traitor by deed is a good primaris book
Blarney is a damn hero
Wolf, Wolfie, wolfey, Wolf.
Me wondering all the video why there's an omnious music in the background and not finding out
Skaven yet?
Woohoo space wolves forth best chapter yeahhags
Naw the Space Wolves are my absolute favorite, say what you want but you can't deny that they certainly have an identity, and culture that makes them uniquely their own men. I love that about them for good or bad they do it their own way.
My favorite recent example is during the Admittedly heavily mixed writing of the war for the Finish system. When the Iron hands, Space Wolves, and others had to close a massive warp rift with nothing but 2 heavily battered companies. And instead of falling back and playing defense they fucking charged the enemy. And everytime the I.H captain though they where about to die, and fail because "it's impossible" they did it with nothing more than sheer skill at arms, speed, and berserk fury
For me that's kinda the problem, they charge head 1st screaming at an umwinable fight and win just because, when anyone else would die since ferociousity isnt a winning tactic for anyone but them
they feel like a parody
@@conradlorgar5508 I mean that is quite literally the reason for their construction. To be able to do what none of the other legions could do, and do it their way. I would probably argue that the World Eaters might have been their mirror match, but sense they were broken, I don't really think you can compare.
Plus all things considered, all astatines are considered shock infantry at the end of the day, heavy, powered armored, and "enhanced" shock infantry, but they are none the less. So a Legion leaning into that niece and specializing in it to the point where they can apply that niece to a wide variety of situations is kinda the selling point of the Space marines as a whole. and why they were designed the way that they were.
Plus parody or not, they have an iconic and entirely unique, and characterful astatic all their own. Now yes if you don't like the whole techno space viking werewolves theme then your not going to like them. personally i'd only wish that they change some of the damn names to NOT have wolf in it. and maybe design some better power armor for the Wulfen. I don't think wolf shaped helmets fit on anyone but Wolf priests and the Wulfen anyway so i'd kill for a proper powered armored werewolf model.
@@spacewolfblackmane19 ironically pointing at the eaters as their mirrors indicates how shock troopers with similar tactics and way more ferocity take way more deaths dispite doing the same thing, its exactly my point
astartes werent made to be shock troopers, that came with the 2nd founding before that they were fully fledged armies and they arent the only ones who embrace the shock trooper thing they are just the ones who do iy to a ridiculous level and come out on top because "ferocity", compare the blood angels and flesh tearers and you see the losses that the wolfs tactics get when its written for anyone but them
I agree the obsession with wolves is just getting eye rolling and it doesnt go beyond surface levels or too literal
If they were more viking then at least theyd have something more to pull from and the wolf bit used in the same way the egyptian thing is an occasional aesthetic for the thousand sons but not the one single thing that defines them
Can you find story’s where the tau react to primars marines
I like ya content. Ya make warhammer sound fun again
He also probably wanted to go home beacuse he instinctively knew when the spacewolves arent stomping a mud hole in somones ass and waking it dry they are drinking tellingly stories and bedding women 😂
Decimus Felix a awesome primaris character
Legion Flavourtown when
Hey I can see this video woah
So.
Daemonculaba. When?
What book was this character in?
Space Wolves - you drunk supermead and lived, you're one of us.
Flesh Tearers - I will kick the ever loving shit out of all you noobies.
I hate the Primaris Marines but regardless that is a great story, and is a great character. Thank you for sharing it.
I have a character, a pretty good one. Don't know if you have heard of him. What about ciaphas cain
SW are my first warhammer army, 24 years ago.
I feel that, at that time (3rd ed), they were more Wolverine-like but already in 5th edition they were becoming more Thor-like. And that tendency did not stop, but I think it was a bad choice.
Something happened, I am not sure when or how, but they changed. They used to be feral above everything else. All about animal instinct, about hunting, about packs. But that is not their focus anymore. Now they are just viking berserks. I mean, they always been berserks, but that felt less relevant than the animalistic side. Or maybe more balanced.
For example, before 6-7th? edition, they barely use their own slang. "jarl" was barely mentioned, "Vlka Fenryka" did not mean anything. I think they introduced a lot of words thinking that they will flesh them out better, but it doesn't, is just jargon. It is distractive and does not provide any depth.
Also there is the problem that they have been abandoned since 8th edition. How comes that they still do not have their own freaking primaris units? And I don't mean the miniatures (also, that is the easy part, just need upgrade sprues). The basis of the wolves rejecting the codex astartes is that they form packs when they become marines and they spend the rest of their life hunting with the same pack. DO THE SAME! Of course, does doesn't fit very well the specialist primaris squads, but you just to make new names! (the specialist primaris squads do not fit anyway, we want tactical marines, not eldar warriors). Why cannot we have "Primaris Grey Hunters" that can be equipped as any intercessor with long-range weapons? It is a real pity that they are so abandoned by GW
Kharn video when?
While I still find the Space Wolves insufferably 1-dimensional, I appreciate the way they made him relatable by humanizing him just a bit more
Do I a video on the iron sceptres
My thoughts on Space Wolves is they should’ve just gone full Viking and nothing really else. It feels like the original pitch for them was “Viking Space Marines but with a little wolf imagery” and then GW went and fucking ran with the Wolf imagery like it was the main bit.
Now we can’t do vikings again in the setting because the neishe is being shitly filled by the ultra positive furry wolf boys.
Cute.
I AM ALPHARIUS (this is a lie)
Hi Arthur I am dad
*vine boom*
If the Space Wolves never made successors then wtf happened to the legion? They would have had thousands of marines so what did they do just sit on Fenris and dare Girlyman to make them Codex compliant? 😂
Most died in and after the heresy.
They split once but have always been larger than a normal chapter.
Not as big as the Black Templars though.
Over the next 10K years they just absorbed losses till there were around 1500 in the chapter then took Loss after loss in recent lore till they were nearly destroyed so they had to either accept Primaris or die out.
They always gave Guilliman the middle finger, even in the current era to the point Guilliman bowed to their Chapter master when they met to keep the peace.
Space furries are my least favorite but i love your videos. i for some reason like the boring one better
Hello how are you
I am Alpharius
The Lamenters are superior
Dude postponed a chapter video for a furry video (kidding, love your content o/)
implying there isn't a legion video coming out this week lol
Eventually, all the chapters and legions will become interesting. Except for Iron Warriors, they suck.
hes primaris and a space wolf
hes fundamentally incapable of being interesting
they should let the nids eat every single one of them along with fenris and their primarch
do anything interesting in the setting, have something slightly grim or dark
make the imperium lose anything, anything at all
also kill the space wolves, so winwin
Space furrys...
I'm so glad there are no female space marines. Otherwise, this character would be a woman- and that would give this story a deeply uncomfortable tinge.
Primaris are not canon. Nothing involving them is.
Cope
Spears of the emperor is immaculate, pleeeeeease do a vid on it papa Arthur
Am i the only one who noticed his profile doesnt look like a pissed off chicken anymore
There is an interesting short story about a group of primaris meeting the Black Dragons. It's about them discovering that the Black Dragons are a bit... different.
Are they the Baraka marines?
@@conradlorgar5508 yup