I know this has been around for a while but it's only recently that I've relocated to western NC where small stream fly-fishing apparently rules. Using a dry fly with a dropper is going to be key and this looks like the way to go. Thanks so much!
*I bought these and used them at the river where I get snags often they have done a **enjoyable.fishing** recommend great job of not breaking along with some strong line I purchased as well. They are super durable and easy to use.*
Wow! Been wondering if I could add a dropper loop to my main line but always thought I had to tie one from the main line itself. This is great! Thanks, Mark on the Columbia River in Oregon.
Great, brilliant way for droppers, one piece main leader with added on droppers plus at right angles, will adopt this for all my future dropper angling
Always had trouble tying satisfactory droppers. Last year I had a revelation. I saw that Aussie and Kiwi anglers simply tie the dropper directly to the bend on the hook of the first fly. Couldn't be simpler. never looked back since.
This knot works great for the hinge system on the dropper. After you have fished a run with this on the dead drift, raise the dry just off of the water and let the nymph go through again in another section of the water column. If the dry moves, as it will when a fish inhales the nymph, set the hook. This gives even more flexibility to a deadly rig.
Tried it today. The fish on the Owyhee River in Eastern Oregon this time of year (February) are eating on size 20-24 midges and occasional BWOs. Unfortunately this method doesn't work if you're using small tippet. I was using 5x and 6x for those small nymphs and the "dropper" tangled EVERY TIME, regardless of the casting method. I would imagine that anything smaller than 3x would tangle as well. Great idea, but just doesn't work unless you're using bigger tippet. Unless I'm missing something, feel free to correct me.
Why have I been tying dropper loops with my main line when I can just add them to it using your method? Your way assures you of getting the additional loop in the right position every time. We'll done
I'm having some trouble using this dropper knot. When i hook a fish (or the bottom) the knot sometimes break. Sometimes i loose both flies because the knot breaks at the joint. Other times i only loose the dropper fly when the line breaks off beneath the knot. Any suggestions to why and how I can fix this?
Much easier to make a dropper knot on your leader and the a leadered dry fly attached tobit be a hand over hand knot..that way you can easily change your dry flies without cutting any leader
Looks great! The best way I have seen to attach a dropper. But, I am curious about the knot you used to tie on the dropper fly. When I use my regular knot, it uses too much of the dropper line, especially if I change flies a couple of times. Your knot did not waste much leader at all. I couldn't quite see how you did it in your video. Does your knot have a name?
Thank you great simple to understand video. I use same note all the time to extend tippet but could picture how to use it to attach dropper. I always have attached dropper to the curve in the hook. If your fishing two nymph rig or streamer nymph would you use same knot?
i think i prefer to fish a dry fly on my main and tie a nymph off of the hook, rather than the line. line on line will create a little knot to snag on things and possibly shear off your line.
I prefer tandem rig. Tie dry fly on like normal n just take tippet n tie how ever much you need right on the dry flys hook n put a nymph on that...dont tangle nearly as much or easy plus no knot in the middle of your leader to weaken it
are u fishing the dry fly as a dry dropper rig? or are u fishing the dry fly under water as a nymph? if its a dry dropper rig u will miss fish as the slack from the tag will not register rite away giving the fish plenty of time to spit out the nymph..tying off the bend is much better for strike detection...if u ever tie a dropper on with the orvis knot u will never use the surgeons again..and u only need to tie the orvis knot with one turn,,regardless of what the instructions say..been fishing this way for many many years..
The trouble with this set up is that when you come to pack up, or you just want to use either the dry or the nymph you have to either cut the dry off, or cut the main leader. If the former, you don't have enough to tie on another. Now don't take the abuse about needing to tie "in line", because you don't. A dry floating on the side is just as good an indicator after hundreds of landed trout. But In order to solve the problem first mentioned, I tie my dries onto a short piece of nylon,5- 6 pound, and with a small loop on the other end. I also have a knot in my leader, sometimes 2, at say 18 inches and 3 feet I can fish the nymph at different depths in a flash. The dry is simply looped on the leader above the knot and slid down. Now what happens, is that contrary to the naysayers, when the dry if floating, it actually develops direct contact with the nymph because the dry and the nymph are at different speeds in the water column. The dry makes an excellent tool to unslip the knot and pull the dry off.
Hi New to fly fishing(first season)maybe a daft question could you put a buzzer and a wet fly on the dropper or do you have to put a dry on the dropper.
Thanks for the great video. I'm definitely going to try this next time I'm out nymph fishing. On a side note, where the heck did you find those scissors? In the garden?! LOL
@Pwrcritter haha, thats what i have been doing, my dad took the piss out of me for it.. you have to cut the whole of the leader to change the fly, its annoying.
Only problem is with that is now you are weakening your leader or tip it by having extra knots in it. Hope you don't lose a big fish because the extra knot
Obviously you don't fly fish much, ever head of a hand made taper? All it is is different size tippets tied together to form a tapered leader.. Plus almost all fly fisherman use more then one fly at a time....all the pros must be stupid
Ryan Calhoun the only person here who is stupid is you obviously you do not fly fish because when you tie multiple flies on you one fly on then you use the hook of that fly and tie the second fly on then use the hook again and tie the third fly on and so on and so forth. And yes I've seen hand-tied tippets. That's why I don't use them because if you know anything about structural integrity the more knots you have on something the weaker it becomes. Thats whats makes you stupid for opening your mouth when you do not know what you're talking about. Nice try
I'm that guy you love to hate I lost big rainbow trout half an hr ago, dropper snapped....trout is swimming with my fly in his mough right now...... Gotted....
Yes, if the dry fly goes under then your lower fly (nymph) would have been inhaled by a fish, so you just watch the dry fly and if it goes down set the hook and if a fish comes up and takes it set the hook :)
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Amazing. My knot tying is crap in a word - this is super helpful. Thanks man
Always come back to this for when i get that empty head moment!
Thanks sir!
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I know this has been around for a while but it's only recently that I've relocated to western NC where small stream fly-fishing apparently rules. Using a dry fly with a dropper is going to be key and this looks like the way to go. Thanks so much!
I have now used this several times, No loss to strength of Tippett and the bonus the fly presentation is excellent. I like the Davy knot as well.
Thanks I've forgotten hw to tie one this has been a great help
*I bought these and used them at the river where I get snags often they have done a **enjoyable.fishing** recommend great job of not breaking along with some strong line I purchased as well. They are super durable and easy to use.*
Wow! Been wondering if I could add a dropper loop to my main line but always thought I had to tie one from the main line itself. This is great! Thanks, Mark on the Columbia River in Oregon.
Thanks for the tip. I like this use of a dropper better than tying off the hook of the main fly. Simple and quick. Whats not to like.
I really like that, thanks for showing it to me. That will allow the dropper to stand off the main line.....I'll work on it
awesome dude thanks, other videos dont stipulate whether what is behind what, they forget we are viewing this video in 3D . thanks again man!!
Great, brilliant way for droppers, one piece main leader with added on droppers plus at right angles, will adopt this for all my future dropper angling
This is the one I’ve been looking For! Thanks
Simple, fast, effective, straight-forward. Thanks
Out Freaking Standing!!! So simple. Guess I’ve been doing too many wraps. Two is plenty. Thanks
Always had trouble tying satisfactory droppers. Last year I had a revelation. I saw that Aussie and Kiwi anglers simply tie the dropper directly to the bend on the hook of the first fly. Couldn't be simpler. never looked back since.
Except when you have barbless hooks and the line slides off
Finally!!! Been looking around for this type of knot. Thanks for sharing
Thanks bro! Made me a copy for my annual review library.
thanks.not fished in five years and if any of my fishing mates find out i had to watch this...
Thanks best video. I saw 👍
Fantastic thanks for the video really well explained 👍
This is ideal for two nymph rig euro nymphing
great m8 , going fishing for sea trout in morning , needed to know how to put more than one fly on, great video thanks again
Thanx!! BTW, I like ease at which you explained this! I'm a bit slow. Wish you could teach me all the knots and tricks!
This knot works great for the hinge system on the dropper. After you have fished a run with this on the dead drift, raise the dry just off of the water and let the nymph go through again in another section of the water column. If the dry moves, as it will when a fish inhales the nymph, set the hook. This gives even more flexibility to a deadly rig.
Good video, but keep the bottom and clip the top. The bottom is less likely to slip and will only get tighter as a fish pulls.
Thanks! Been wanting to learn this because ive been tying my dropper line directly to the hook of my dry fly.
Great vid, its pretty much a double surgeon's, the same thing you would use for adding tippet.
I like that knot, Thanks for sharing.
Tried it today. The fish on the Owyhee River in Eastern Oregon this time of year (February) are eating on size 20-24 midges and occasional BWOs. Unfortunately this method doesn't work if you're using small tippet. I was using 5x and 6x for those small nymphs and the "dropper" tangled EVERY TIME, regardless of the casting method. I would imagine that anything smaller than 3x would tangle as well. Great idea, but just doesn't work unless you're using bigger tippet. Unless I'm missing something, feel free to correct me.
I feel your pain with the 7x and size 22s. But what other dropper method would tangle any less? Would love to hear any suggestions
Thanks for the video, it was a great help.
Thanks for the info wife and I are heading to the Green River utti n two weeks and I’ll be using this not quite a bit
My, but that IS a sexy little 90 degree angle.
I'm gonna try this method next time I tie a dropper rig.
Nice and simple demonstration, looking forward to trying
Why have I been tying dropper loops with my main line when I can just add them to it using your method? Your way assures you of getting the additional loop in the right position every time. We'll done
Thank you. T is a simple way to tie a dropper.
Only seen this lately, fantastic.
I'm having some trouble using this dropper knot. When i hook a fish (or the bottom) the knot sometimes break. Sometimes i loose both flies because the knot breaks at the joint. Other times i only loose the dropper fly when the line breaks off beneath the knot.
Any suggestions to why and how I can fix this?
Much easier to make a dropper knot on your leader and the a leadered dry fly attached tobit be a hand over hand knot..that way you can easily change your dry flies without cutting any leader
Looks great! The best way I have seen to attach a dropper. But, I am curious about the knot you used to tie on the dropper fly. When I use my regular knot, it uses too much of the dropper line, especially if I change flies a couple of times. Your knot did not waste much leader at all. I couldn't quite see how you did it in your video. Does your knot have a name?
Thank you great simple to understand video. I use same note all the time to extend tippet but could picture how to use it to attach dropper. I always have attached dropper to the curve in the hook. If your fishing two nymph rig or streamer nymph would you use same knot?
Thank you. Just playing with some multi fly setups I will use this for sure.
i think i prefer to fish a dry fly on my main and tie a nymph off of the hook, rather than the line. line on line will create a little knot to snag on things and possibly shear off your line.
Awesome video, thanks.
thx for the insruction--I'll give it a try!!
Does the dry fly on the dropper get tangled up with main line over time?
cool lil knot, thx for the instruction, sorta like a surgeons but better!!
I prefer tandem rig. Tie dry fly on like normal n just take tippet n tie how ever much you need right on the dry flys hook n put a nymph on that...dont tangle nearly as much or easy plus no knot in the middle of your leader to weaken it
are u fishing the dry fly as a dry dropper rig? or are u fishing the dry fly under water as a nymph? if its a dry dropper rig u will miss fish as the slack from the tag will not register rite away giving the fish plenty of time to spit out the nymph..tying off the bend is much better for strike detection...if u ever tie a dropper on with the orvis knot u will never use the surgeons again..and u only need to tie the orvis knot with one turn,,regardless of what the instructions say..been fishing this way for many many years..
The trouble with this set up is that when you come to pack up, or you just want to use either the dry or the nymph you have to either cut the dry off, or cut the main leader. If the former, you don't have enough to tie on another. Now don't take the abuse about needing to tie "in line", because you don't. A dry floating on the side is just as good an indicator after hundreds of landed trout. But In order to solve the problem first mentioned, I tie my dries onto a short piece of nylon,5- 6 pound, and with a small loop on the other end. I also have a knot in my leader, sometimes 2, at say 18 inches and 3 feet I can fish the nymph at different depths in a flash. The dry is simply looped on the leader above the knot and slid down. Now what happens, is that contrary to the naysayers, when the dry if floating, it actually develops direct contact with the nymph because the dry and the nymph are at different speeds in the water column. The dry makes an excellent tool to unslip the knot and pull the dry off.
That's a great idea! Do you use a slip knot on the nylon to tighten onto your leader?
Peter Williams wouldn't the knot on the leader weaken the line , not criticising , just looking for tips
it's called a davy knot. You can find it on youtube.
DUDE what was that last knot you tied the dry on with? super fast and doesn't waste any material. Is there a name for it? Thanks
What was that last knot you tied the Dry fly on with??
Looked very simple to tie.
11happychap I HAD THE SAME QUESTION ...........
+Jann Smith Looks like a Davy Knot
Hi New to fly fishing(first season)maybe a daft question could you put a buzzer and a wet fly on the dropper or do you have to put a dry on the dropper.
Well, “That Was Easy”
Thanks for the great video. I'm definitely going to try this next time I'm out nymph fishing. On a side note, where the heck did you find those scissors? In the garden?! LOL
great help! thanks!
@Pwrcritter haha, thats what i have been doing, my dad took the piss out of me for it.. you have to cut the whole of the leader to change the fly, its annoying.
Great tip thanks
Only problem is with that is now you are weakening your leader or tip it by having extra knots in it. Hope you don't lose a big fish because the extra knot
Obviously you don't fly fish much, ever head of a hand made taper? All it is is different size tippets tied together to form a tapered leader.. Plus almost all fly fisherman use more then one fly at a time....all the pros must be stupid
Ryan Calhoun the only person here who is stupid is you obviously you do not fly fish because when you tie multiple flies on you one fly on then you use the hook of that fly and tie the second fly on then use the hook again and tie the third fly on and so on and so forth. And yes I've seen hand-tied tippets. That's why I don't use them because if you know anything about structural integrity the more knots you have on something the weaker it becomes. Thats whats makes you stupid for opening your mouth when you do not know what you're talking about. Nice try
Using droppers gives you a better drift on each individual fly, you fucking idiot.
Structural integrity in Knot tying ? GIve me break ! You are full of B.S. MR P.H.D of ENGINEERING in FLY FISHING KNOTS. STICK with HUNTING.
I'm that guy you love to hate I lost big rainbow trout half an hr ago, dropper snapped....trout is swimming with my fly in his mough right now...... Gotted....
…so surgeons knot. Never tried this, but will. My knot tying sucks
To each his own....
I like fly fishing
Diego hahaha. I like turtles
Looks like a surgeon’s knot.
Yes, if the dry fly goes under then your lower fly (nymph) would have been inhaled by a fish, so you just watch the dry fly and if it goes down set the hook and if a fish comes up and takes it set the hook :)
Will this work as a strike indicator
Yes!
A 2 turn water knot
i'm with you
Anyone else screaming wet the knots before tightening?
cool, thanks
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Just a surgeon loop you just do it weird.
Mate stop the sniffing ffs!
Two hooks on the same line is NOT real fly fishing.
First fly anglers used up to ten wet flies on one leader....