Just found you. I really like your no nonsense approach plus your friendly SA accent. Clear descriptions of the dry dropper option plus flies and well executed on water action. Thank you. 🇨🇦🇬🇧.
The Dry dropper is my favorite setup especially for small streams here in North Central Pennsylvania. You can control drag, maneuver the rig so much better, and see those subtle takes that offten get missed. Great method!
Love the video. Years ago, my older brother, dad and myself went on a guided fishing trip on the Colorado River below Glen Canyon Dam (Arizona, USA) and our guide set us each up with a dry-dropper set up: #10 Royal Wolff trailed by an #18 zebra midge. Caught beautiful rainbows most of the day on the midge but at a certain point, the trout began taking the attractor fly. What a fun day and fun way to fish flies.
Your attention to detail when filming, choice of location, and pertinent comments make this video the best that I've seen. I've not seen anyone describe and fish a stream like you do. Thank you. What is the stream in this video? It's beautiful.
Thanks very much, I appreciate the feedback. If you flick me a message from my website I'll pass you the details for this stresm. I don't post the names on social media. Have a great day. Tight lines.
Used a hopper dropper setup for the first time yesterday, 4 fish in about an hour. Not too shabby. 3 on the nymph, one on the hopper. Gonna give streamers/the wooly bugger a try next.
Hi Johan, you just get better and better! Nice fish, good drift and a useful instruction. I have used rings for a few years and find it very useful as I can change flies quicker and use less leader material. You have to be careful on selecting your make of rings as I have bought ones that were poor finish and they cut the line. Never gave it a thought as I have used Mustad 3mm rings for 40 years. Did you watch the Bocks play France? Great match. Cheers mate. Harera
Thanks so much, I'm glad it's coming through. I'm working hard to get each video a little bit better. I actually have some rings on my pack that I use for euro. I'll stick one on my tampered leader next time. Haven't really thought about. Tight lines.
@@CrazyAboutFlyFishing Wanted to watch the World Cup? Go to TH-cam and watch the women play, the Black Ferns won, but there were some great games, tough as the men’s games, especially against England and France (the two professional sides). Harera
Hello. This is really excellent. I always seem to back off using a dry/dropper, but I really need to give it a go. I mostly fish in streams that are the perfect type for it. merry Christmas from Sydney. :-)
Thanks very much, glad you found it helpful. Yes, born in South Africa but lived in New Zealand for longer now than I ever lived there. But the accent stuck 🤣
hello, great video, very well explained, I have a 9.6 ft #3 rod, what kind of line would you use for this fishing technique, a more subtle SA VPT or a more aggressive SA MPX, Thanks good channel
Thanks very much. If you will mostly fish small dry dropper combos i.e. light nymps small dries, then a more delicate presentation line is probably best. I throw a lot of big foam cicadas over a big part of summer, so I use a more aggressive arflo universal taper but not as aggressive as the SA amplitude infinity, although that's great line too.
It varies every trip and if I find they are only taking the nymph I might consider just fishing nymphs and similarly if they are only taking dries I might put a second dry instead of the nymph and fish double dries instead. But in summer in shallower water I'd say on average it's 50/50.
HELLO, very informative. Why not tie the dropper from the eye of the dry fly hook? For barbless, this would eliminate any worry about slipping off. I have been doing this for years and never seen anyone promote it. Thanks for your input. Richard.
Thanks Richard appreciate the feedback. I have heard of tying it off the eye but I must say I have never tried it. Always felt like it would affect the way the dry would sit in the water and also not sure how well two lots of tippet would fit through the eye of smaller dries. I rarely fish lighter than 5x here because of the average size of the trout in NZ. But I will definitely give it a try some time and see how it works. Tight lines.
@@CrazyAboutFlyFishing Thanks for such a quick reply! I don't think its a disadvantage for dry sitting in the water. Perhaps gets pulled down in front instead of at the rear. Always looks OK. I use 5x as well, and if you're going after fatties, you're likely using larger flies, size 12 at least? I do have problems with the dropper line eventually wrapping around the dry if left on too long. Cheers.
i find deer hair flies work the best as a dry dropper but im in Canada where there are very big trout and and salmon size 8 dry flies with size 10 or 12 wet fly
They work well here too especially on the bigger rivers and streams during Cicada season. The big trout will swim a long distance to eat a big dry. I especially like big foam dries like chubbies, hoppers and cicada imitations.
Good video, thanks for the detailed depth info and tippet sizes..... Quick question....curious....how long do you make your tag for the dry? If you keep cutting it back it's really short to tie any knot to the dry fly right? Thanks again, and tight lines.
I like it about 15cm and use a double davy knot which doesn't use as much tippet. When the tag gets to short it is best to re-tie but you can snip it off and tie a new tag on using a sliding uni-knot above the previous knot or using a figure of 8 knot.
Not yet but I have had two fish on double nymph rigs althought never landed as one always comes off or breaks the line. I have often had fish come up to the dry and ended up missing the take but the nymph catches them. I know some people fish two dries this way especially if the point dry is hard to see a larger one is used as an indicator
@@CrazyAboutFlyFishing I'm scouting 15km of the Northern HB "Nuhaka River". & seeing some good numbers of Rainbow trout there, mainly found in the pools. So we've been drift nymph fishing into the pools and wait for the strike.👌👍
Level leaders don't turn over very well when it is windy, especially long ones. A heavier nymph can help but the enegery transfer of a tapered leader makes for much more pleasant casting. If I am fishing small streams with a short leader setup I do sometimes just go level so just depends on the situation. For most of my fishing I tend to have 12- 15ft to the dry and that gets very difficult to turn over with a level mono leader when there is a downstream breeze.
Hi Russell, its a couple of hours from Auckland. I don't give exact locations on social media unfortunately but easy to find on the fish and game website map. Tight lines
Hi. I'm new to fly fishing. Don't have a ton of money for multiple reels and rods. I have a 9 foot 5 weight with 4x leader. It's quite the learning curve without a mentor. I'm just fly fishing for trout in northwestern Pennsylvania. I have no desire to go after anything else. What are you go to dry drop rigs that have a lot of success?
It's always tough when starting out. For trout my go to dry dropper combo is a Royal Wulff for faster pocket water or a parachute Adams for calmer slower water and I combine that with weigted or unweight pheasant tail nymphs as the water speed and depth determines. Size 10 to 12 for the Royal Wulff and Size 12 to 14 for the parachute adams. For the Pheasant tail size 14 to 18 depending on how picky the trout are. Keep it simple and focus on short casts. I also wrote this blog post that might be helpful although it is more focussed on New Zealand. Another very good option as a beginner is to use a foam dry fly like a chubby chernobyl instead. The trout love them and they float very well. Hoppers are similar as well. Here is a blog post I did as well although it is more focussed on New Zealand it should work for you too. www.crazyaboutflyfishing.com/post/fly-fishing-with-a-dry-dropper-rigwww.crazyaboutflyfishing.com/post/fly-fishing-with-a-dry-dropper-rig
It could be your leader setup. If you are getting tailing loops it will tangle. Are you using a tapered leader? They really help to turn over the flies and prevent tangles.
I have a slight preference for off the bend, because that is how I learned but objectively off a dropper is better because you can change dry flies more easily and there is less risk of losing fish if the nymph snags when they have taken the dry fly. A dropper also allows you to do a sliding dropper. Look up the video from I think it is Old Dominion Trout bum who does a sliding dry dropper by using a micro perfection loop to attach the dropper for the dry above a stop knot.
Just found you. I really like your no nonsense approach plus your friendly SA accent. Clear descriptions of the dry dropper option plus flies and well executed on water action. Thank you. 🇨🇦🇬🇧.
Thanks so much and apologies for the delayed reply. There will be more content like this in the future so keep an eye out. Tight lines.
The Dry dropper is my favorite setup especially for small streams here in North Central Pennsylvania. You can control drag, maneuver the rig so much better, and see those subtle takes that offten get missed. Great method!
Yep it's a great method and I use it most of the summer here. Tight lines
Love the video. Years ago, my older brother, dad and myself went on a guided fishing trip on the Colorado River below Glen Canyon Dam (Arizona, USA) and our guide set us each up with a dry-dropper set up: #10 Royal Wolff trailed by an #18 zebra midge. Caught beautiful rainbows most of the day on the midge but at a certain point, the trout began taking the attractor fly. What a fun day and fun way to fish flies.
Awesome, Thanks for sharing!
Your attention to detail when filming, choice of location, and pertinent comments make this video the best that I've seen. I've not seen anyone describe and fish a stream like you do. Thank you. What is the stream in this video? It's beautiful.
Thanks very much, I appreciate the feedback. If you flick me a message from my website I'll pass you the details for this stresm. I don't post the names on social media. Have a great day. Tight lines.
Thanks for that Johan. Transparent and easy way to understand 👍
Thank you Pawel 😊
Great video Johan, also very timely with the summer arriving
Thanks Neil, I thought it would be handy. Such a great way to prospect the shallows.
Thank you for producing this video. Very informative and well done.
Glad it was helpful!
the perfect tutorial for dry-rig set up, very helpful to fish in small stream and lakes
Thank you very much
Awesome video and very informative.
Thank you, that's great to hear
Love the quic release! Means the fish survives. 💪
I always try to handle the fish as carefully and quickly as possible. Keep them healthy for the next generation to enjoy
Excellent tutorial.
Thanks so much
Very nice fish! So cool to see the release under water!
Thanks very much, I always try to get a couple of nice underwater releases if I can
Used a hopper dropper setup for the first time yesterday, 4 fish in about an hour. Not too shabby. 3 on the nymph, one on the hopper. Gonna give streamers/the wooly bugger a try next.
Awesome, streamers are good fun too. Tight lines
how did the steamers work for you :) ?
Hi Johan, you just get better and better! Nice fish, good drift and a useful instruction. I have used rings for a few years and find it very useful as I can change flies quicker and use less leader material. You have to be careful on selecting your make of rings as I have bought ones that were poor finish and they cut the line. Never gave it a thought as I have used Mustad 3mm rings for 40 years. Did you watch the Bocks play France? Great match. Cheers mate. Harera
Thanks so much, I'm glad it's coming through. I'm working hard to get each video a little bit better. I actually have some rings on my pack that I use for euro. I'll stick one on my tampered leader next time. Haven't really thought about. Tight lines.
Oh and I didn't watch the boks. I've kindof lost interest in rugby at least until the world cup
@@CrazyAboutFlyFishing Wanted to watch the World Cup? Go to TH-cam and watch the women play, the Black Ferns won, but there were some great games, tough as the men’s games, especially against England and France (the two professional sides). Harera
Yeah that's been really good! Now there is more WC rugby too and no need to wait 4 years any more.
Hello. This is really excellent. I always seem to back off using a dry/dropper, but I really need to give it a go. I mostly fish in streams that are the perfect type for it. merry Christmas from Sydney. :-)
Awesome thanks so much. It's a great combo for searching streams. Merry Christmas to you too and tight lines.
thank you for this video, short and easy to understand. you sound very South African lol.
Thanks very much, glad you found it helpful. Yes, born in South Africa but lived in New Zealand for longer now than I ever lived there. But the accent stuck 🤣
Thanks for a very informative and good video. Tightlines
Thank you very much, tight lines for you too
hello, great video, very well explained, I have a 9.6 ft #3 rod, what kind of line would you use for this fishing technique, a more subtle SA VPT or a more aggressive SA MPX, Thanks good channel
Thanks very much. If you will mostly fish small dry dropper combos i.e. light nymps small dries, then a more delicate presentation line is probably best. I throw a lot of big foam cicadas over a big part of summer, so I use a more aggressive arflo universal taper but not as aggressive as the SA amplitude infinity, although that's great line too.
my start up is a foam beetle and a small buzzer about 30 inches below on all my still water fishing my best combination by far
Beetles are great here early season. I'll try it on a lake trip this summer, haven't done that before. Thanks for the tip.
Fajny Klimat 🎣🎣🎣👍👍👍
Thank you 😊
Awesome video, great info! Do you remember if they hooked more on the dry or bottom fly?
It varies every trip and if I find they are only taking the nymph I might consider just fishing nymphs and similarly if they are only taking dries I might put a second dry instead of the nymph and fish double dries instead. But in summer in shallower water I'd say on average it's 50/50.
great video! what kind of camera did you use for the underwater release part?
Thanks you. I use GoPros. This would have been a 10 probably
Thanks. Epic info.
Awesome, thanks
HELLO, very informative. Why not tie the dropper from the eye of the dry fly hook? For barbless, this would eliminate any worry about slipping off. I have been doing this for years and never seen anyone promote it. Thanks for your input. Richard.
Thanks Richard appreciate the feedback. I have heard of tying it off the eye but I must say I have never tried it. Always felt like it would affect the way the dry would sit in the water and also not sure how well two lots of tippet would fit through the eye of smaller dries. I rarely fish lighter than 5x here because of the average size of the trout in NZ. But I will definitely give it a try some time and see how it works. Tight lines.
@@CrazyAboutFlyFishing Thanks for such a quick reply! I don't think its a disadvantage for dry sitting in the water. Perhaps gets pulled down in front instead of at the rear. Always looks OK. I use 5x as well, and if you're going after fatties, you're likely using larger flies, size 12 at least? I do have problems with the dropper line eventually wrapping around the dry if left on too long. Cheers.
@richardcampbell7645 that's good to hear. I'll definitely give it a try and see how it works for me. Tight lines
@@CrazyAboutFlyFishing Keep my comment so you can let me know how you do!
i find deer hair flies work the best as a dry dropper but im in Canada where there are very big trout and and salmon size 8 dry flies with size 10 or 12 wet fly
They work well here too especially on the bigger rivers and streams during Cicada season. The big trout will swim a long distance to eat a big dry. I especially like big foam dries like chubbies, hoppers and cicada imitations.
Good video, thanks for the detailed depth info and tippet sizes..... Quick question....curious....how long do you make your tag for the dry? If you keep cutting it back it's really short to tie any knot to the dry fly right? Thanks again, and tight lines.
I like it about 15cm and use a double davy knot which doesn't use as much tippet. When the tag gets to short it is best to re-tie but you can snip it off and tie a new tag on using a sliding uni-knot above the previous knot or using a figure of 8 knot.
Thank you. Never heard of the Davy knot or Double Davy. Both appear to be very small. Will get some hackle pliers and start practicing Tight lines
Nice fish!
Thanks!
where are you from sir? midlands? Dullstroom? I fish the cape streams...
Bloem originally but I have lived in New Zealand 🇳🇿 for over 20 years now.
Hi Johan, have you ever had a double strike? Just a thought using the dry fly like a NZ strike indicator. Experiment with that idea 💡.👍
Not yet but I have had two fish on double nymph rigs althought never landed as one always comes off or breaks the line. I have often had fish come up to the dry and ended up missing the take but the nymph catches them. I know some people fish two dries this way especially if the point dry is hard to see a larger one is used as an indicator
@@CrazyAboutFlyFishing I'm scouting 15km of the Northern HB "Nuhaka River". & seeing some good numbers of Rainbow trout there, mainly found in the pools. So we've been drift nymph fishing into the pools and wait for the strike.👌👍
Why not straight mono to the dry and floro to the dropper a good cast will cut out the tangles
Level leaders don't turn over very well when it is windy, especially long ones. A heavier nymph can help but the enegery transfer of a tapered leader makes for much more pleasant casting. If I am fishing small streams with a short leader setup I do sometimes just go level so just depends on the situation. For most of my fishing I tend to have 12- 15ft to the dry and that gets very difficult to turn over with a level mono leader when there is a downstream breeze.
perfect good fish
Thanks for watching
That is a beutiful stream .i love thst type of water .where are you?
Hi Russell, its a couple of hours from Auckland. I don't give exact locations on social media unfortunately but easy to find on the fish and game website map. Tight lines
Hi. I'm new to fly fishing. Don't have a ton of money for multiple reels and rods. I have a 9 foot 5 weight with 4x leader. It's quite the learning curve without a mentor. I'm just fly fishing for trout in northwestern Pennsylvania. I have no desire to go after anything else. What are you go to dry drop rigs that have a lot of success?
It's always tough when starting out. For trout my go to dry dropper combo is a Royal Wulff for faster pocket water or a parachute Adams for calmer slower water and I combine that with weigted or unweight pheasant tail nymphs as the water speed and depth determines. Size 10 to 12 for the Royal Wulff and Size 12 to 14 for the parachute adams. For the Pheasant tail size 14 to 18 depending on how picky the trout are. Keep it simple and focus on short casts. I also wrote this blog post that might be helpful although it is more focussed on New Zealand. Another very good option as a beginner is to use a foam dry fly like a chubby chernobyl instead. The trout love them and they float very well. Hoppers are similar as well. Here is a blog post I did as well although it is more focussed on New Zealand it should work for you too. www.crazyaboutflyfishing.com/post/fly-fishing-with-a-dry-dropper-rigwww.crazyaboutflyfishing.com/post/fly-fishing-with-a-dry-dropper-rig
@@CrazyAboutFlyFishing Thanks for the blog post. Greatly appreciate your input.
How do you cast this without the nymph getting all tangled in your leader? Every single time I have tried this, it’s been a disaster
It could be your leader setup. If you are getting tailing loops it will tangle. Are you using a tapered leader? They really help to turn over the flies and prevent tangles.
@@CrazyAboutFlyFishing I buy the premade ones at bass pro, then take a piece of leader and tie it on to the shank of the dry fly.
@Oldmanflyfishing that should work well. Sometimes it helps to let your loops open up a bit an slow down the cast.
@@CrazyAboutFlyFishing could it be my nymph is to heavy? I use a larger dry fly but not a super small nymph
Is your underwater camera a GoPro, and if so how do you remove it so easily and reattach??
Yes, it's a gopro 10. I have it on a magnetic mount. Ulanzi GP-16 action camera mount
I also have the orginal from the US called a SNAP mount. More expensive and slightly stronger but overall haven't noticed a big difference
Beginner here So off the bend of hook or dropper?
I have a slight preference for off the bend, because that is how I learned but objectively off a dropper is better because you can change dry flies more easily and there is less risk of losing fish if the nymph snags when they have taken the dry fly. A dropper also allows you to do a sliding dropper. Look up the video from I think it is Old Dominion Trout bum who does a sliding dry dropper by using a micro perfection loop to attach the dropper for the dry above a stop knot.