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TheStraightPipes an idea...can you do a review, but have it be recording from first impressions while reviewing it to get that un-edited real reaction to it?
Apparently the new one 2020 will have higher numbers similar to other 3.0 turbo Ford's... For this price and power this is just an edge sport replacement, carry over year.
Bro this is the ONLY car (and horse) review channel I can truly say is “Great”. The camera shots, audio, and in depth descriptions of vehicles is PERFECT. The thumbnails? THE BEST. Straight Pipes sets the bar for how car reviews should be. Music isn’t annoying, it’s not louder than the dialogue, there isn’t super corny intros, they get straight into it. AND they talk about it from the point of view of an everyday Joe. Not all have a racetrack to our disposal everyday **cough** Top Gear **cough**. You guys deserve wayyyyyyyyy more subs than all those other “car review” channels.
I saw one of these in blue the other day with black wheels. It looked sharp. Maybe I'm prejudice, as I own a Mustang V-6. I'm leery of the ecoboost engine though.
A Stanton1966 Leary due to reliability? I’ve driven a few diff EB fords they are impressive a lot like a diesel with instant torque but still rev out. I actually want a EB Mustang. They cost more to repair though, all that boost plumbing adds a lot of man hours to repair work. Look at the difference in repairing a head gasket on a HEMI vs a 3.5 EB for example. Ouch!
I'm leary of the ecoboost due to the turbo and, on some trucks, the use of a plastic oil pan and drain plug. I don't know if the EB uses this oil pan. I know the GT and Shelby does and for this reason I won't upgrade to a GT. I've heard cases where the pan doesn't give a good seal and leaks oil. I like the looks of the Challengers and Chargers, however, I'm leary of their electronics. Everything goes through that info center, even the heated seats and fan speeds. For now I'll keep my V-6 Mustang.
Having owned a 2016 Edge Sport for the last two years I can say that for the money it is reasonable value. It is comfortable and quiet on the highway. Has enough power and torque to carry four people with a full load of luggage and easily can haul ass in any passing manoeuvre. Fully loaded editions have the safety and convenience features that most people want. Yes a European competitor is probably a better vehicle to drive but outfit them with the same options and you are 20 K apart. It is an SUV and yes you do sit higher up but handling is very good and easy to precisely pick a line while driving. The ST is an evolved step up from the Sport with the bigger brakes, more power and torque, more bolstering on the seats. I’m guessing most people will never use paddle shifters any so leaving the transmission in auto mode will do fine. This is a niche vehicle for people who want that punch of V6 torque with a sporty style that can still do family duties. If you are shopping Audi SQ5, BMW X3M40i or GLC AMG 43 you are not comparing apples to apples.
just got me a 2015 sport edge with all the features i love it hoping it lasts me a long time has 100k. crazy i went from driving a 27 year old truck to this
Dad here who wants to beat his SIL onto the highway. I test drove one of these the first chance I got, and I have to agree with most of your critiques. The biggest problem is that transmission, and hopefully that's something they can fix in a later model year. Other than that, this car ticks a lot of boxes for me, I can put a two car seats in the back, dogs in the trunk, and tow a small camper all while still having a bit of fun in my daily. That being said, I didn't buy one. I already own a Focus ST and its hard to jump from a 20k car that was great, up to a 50k car that's just okay.
Man I am in the EXACT same position as you! I've owned a Focus ST going on 6 years now and love it to death, but would like something a little bigger. We only have one kid, but also have two big dogs, so this has been on my radar ever since it was announced. Might wait another year and pickup a lightly used but heavily discounted Stinger GT instead...
@@freedom24v86 I love the Roadmaster as much as anyone, my high school friends and I used to goof around in that thing all the time, smokin up tires like cigarettes lmao but also, the car basically folded in half when my friend got t-boned in an intersection. The only argument I'd put forward in favor of a modern SUV over the Roadmaster is modern safety/build standards lol
@@theoblivion87 well moderen wagons exist hahah i was just using a road master as an example of a fun wagon I personally hate suvs slow bad handling crap mpg While wagons are more car based lower center of gravity list goes on why wagons are better and they can tow most of what youd need I mean shit even all the old wagons sat around 4k-5k lbs towing capacity And can be made into fun dailys And honestly all cars fold like tacos when t boned
It’s snowing. I’m on call but the Straight Pipes dropping A Sunday morning review fixed all that! I can’t say that I’m a fan of the Edge. After seeing the Volvo XC 40 I can’t stop thinking I want that!
TheStraightPipes after watching his interview with Shaun Evans of hotOnes I was just thinking to myself you guys need more "sh*ts" in your videos . 😂😂😂😂
I watched the entire video closely. My wife and I both own FiST's and I was eager to hear about what this abomination of the ST line was all about.Great video like always, I agree it shouldn't wear the badge. Anyways... The title is 100% legit. However, I do hope for many more subs!
I actually really like the edge ST. I didn’t expect to. I test drove one, it handles great, a nice exhaust (from the OUTSIDE, i don’t like fake exhaust pumped in the speakers), and it’s really fast. Love the looks too.
I agree. I have a '17 Sport and I love it. Its fun to drive, has the perfect amount of cargo space, and has been insanely reliable. What's not to like?
@@Mogsy28uk Nah, the Focus ST had much more subtle "fake" sound, and it was actually real sound pumped through a symposer tube from the intake (even though it still sounds real fake). As a bonus, disabling the sound is as easy as unplugging the stupid little valve that controls it, or getting a $30 symposer delete kit.
they haven't got rid of those, new Focus MK4 ST is out in the autumn, globally. Granted they are about a year too late marketing/sales wise....18+ months after the MK4 launched, so a lot of customers have gone to other brands for hot hatches.
@@Mogsy28uk They got rid of them in the US. The rest of the world can continue getting their hot hatch on while America gets dumped on, by our own car company no less.
If people bought the Focus or Fiesta ST.. they'd still be selling them. People vote with their dollars, and their dollars are going to crossovers. Still available in other countries, so they can always bring them back if NA finally gets over this crossover thing.
@@lego4virgo, seriously. A good wagon or hatch gets me double taking these days. The Focus Active promised a lot too. I need a truck for work, but it's nice to "window shop" on hatches.
No, you're not. They look bloated to me and they really found a way to devalue them ST badge. When Jakub said it reminded him of Mr. Bean, that's exactly the feeling. Ford sold it's soul wheen they axed all of their cars.
You guys doing a great job as always! Especially love the brief short vid you made for this review to prove your point regarding the paddle shifting! I noticed you’re doing more of that stuff lately in your reviews... it’s very insightful and shows us exactly what you’re talking about quickly!
@Rique cuvs are just hatch backs with awful performance and efficiency. The higher ride height is the only draw I can see. Full size suvs actually have a use.
My wife has a black 16’ edge sport and it’s an amazing all around vehicle! Matches my 13’ Taurus SHO very well... Question. Why would you try to down shift again at redline and then say that the trans is bad when it won’t let you?
Great review guys! Come on Ford though, for a company that is abandoning cars to focus on SUVs and trucks, I am sure you can do better especially considering how old the Edge is. A new Edge in the near term I hope...
So, in summation, an American commentary is that Ford did a half-ass job in putting this vehicle together. A Canadian commentary is similar, the 2019 Ford Edge ST is half-baked. Canadians are so polite....
This is the review I've been waiting for. I own a 2015 kia optima sx turbo, and need to upgrade for space for my kids. My first choice is the stinger, it has the power and trunk space, but it's not an SUV which every wife seems to want. The other review I'm waiting for is the chevy blazer rs. Right now price wise, power wise, utility wise, and wife and kids happy wise, this vehicle really can't be beat.
Problem with this Edge ST(from what I figured from the video) is it's trying to do 2 different things at the same time. One, it is an SUV with at least mild off-road ability, driving kids and people around and going for long trips; there it kinda falls appart cuz seats arent comfortable, engine can sound gravelly and annoying, climate can be annoying. Then, as an ST, you want it to be able to haul lots of loads and do stuff sometimes quickly and enjoying it. However, not with that transmission, which would piss me personally off, then, again, that engine note in Sport mode... that gauge cluster looks subpar at best(compared to VWs for example). This SUV nails half of its' purpose in 2 different ways, but fails others halfs in 2 same ways...
Well boys they listened to your critique and added an "ST-line" option for 2020 with the base engine but kept all the looks of the ST, as you suggested. You guys did it!
Im very surprised you guys didn’t like the audio system. I absolutely love it. 800watts and no distortion at all volume levels. The old Sony systems were complete garbage though. Make sure you enable surround emulation though.
Any ford with the b&o is trash this like Bose home theater speakers all highs and mods but no bass what so ever he’ll my mom just got a 2023. Explorer king ranch and the sub was already blown within the first week and this is while professionally tuning the system if ford used the revel system 😍😍 they would have more buyers
@@explosivesgod2659 I agree its not a great system. I dont hate it but I definitely wish they used the revel system from the Lincolns in the ST models. The edge seems to sound better than the explorer with the B&O for some reason though. Might just be the speaker arrangement and cabin size.
It does have an odd place in the market. However, if you're wondering who might buy it, it'd be my wife and I who are looking to replace our Forester XT. Since Subaru is no longer be selling the turbo forester, the Edge ST is looking to be a really nice replacement.
@Throw Rowley the comparison is off (because the kona is much smaller) but korean cars (which aren't really build there - but whatever) made huge leaps forward in the last years. i'd actually take a hyundai/kia over a ford any day because they're just better and much better value...
The overly tall ride height is to appeal to crossover lovers who feel "unsafe" driving at a low (normal) ride height. They'll say things like "Ohhh I feel intimidated by bigger cars." Cry me a river.
Not worthy of the ST badge indeed. Both Ford STs always had several distinct elements to them that set them apart from their regular-trim counterparts. 1. A distinct lack of advanced driver assistance tech (Blind spot monitoring, Cross Traffic Alert, Auto Parking, Parking Sensors, etc). Stripping that away wouldn't've been hard to do either, and could've saved some cost to the sticker price. People who want to DRIVE the car do not want the tech trying to do their driving FOR them. 2. Manual Transmission only. The european Edge comes standard with a 6-speed, so doing this wouldn't've been that difficult. They could've at least put a dual-cluitch in it... 3. Performance Oriented Gearing. Both the Focus & Fiesta STs had shorter gearing overall, with 6th in the Focus ST cruising @ 100km/h @ 2200RPM. Still gets decent fuel economy when cruising, not so much when on the throttle, but, hey, at least it's fun to gun it when you are. 4. Highly Bolstered Seating, both at the thigh and torso areas. You already covered why the Edge ST doesn't have that. 5. The most real fake sound possible. On the Focus & Fiesta ST, Induction sound was pumped into the cabin via an actual tube with an electronically-controlled valve when you're on the throttle. It may have been artificially activated, but at least it was the real sound, and not this crap added via the regular speakers. It's that "throaty" sound that you talked about with the Focus ST. Then, to think that they're going to make an Explorer ST...
So, in the Focus RS it was found there was a plug in the back you can just disconnect from the amp/audio box. Pretty much right under the tray you would look under to find a spare tire. When you disconnect this cable it disabled the fake exhaust audio that's piped through the speakers. Wonder if if that works the same in the Edge ST. If so, it's a quick fix.
I like this conflicted review, in regards to the "who is going to buy this?" it's not going to be pervious ST owners, for 42K I would rather buy a used Focus RS and spend 15K fixing it.
2018 Focus RS LE are still available in Canada and are marked down from $60K MSRP to $45-$47K. You'd be crazy to buy this ST badged minivan instead of an RS.
You guys always make the most enjoyable content, minus the ridiculous amount of commercials. I have to click through four commercials for a 15 min video, which is annoying!
Lol I pictured a Ford sales meeting "...but in this next graph you can see clearly we are killing it in the Dad's who want to smoke their brother in law segment"
I hear that from a lot of Ford vehicles reviews regarding high bucket seat integration. They all say that they're not seating "in" but "on" the chairs. Car companies really need to hire information engineer/designers that have more common sense and the intuition about safe driving habits rather than tech savvy nitwits who put aesthetics first. Top channel! Hope you guys get to review the new Mazda 3 hatch/sedan ASAP.
So the B&O sound system wasn't good? Strange given their reputation. My guess would be that they put the cheapest quality speakers they could get while still putting the B&O logo on?
I love B&O, but they're just Philips electronics underneath. So the idea you've proposed, it wouldn't be impossible, they do their best work in European vehicles like Audi and Aston, so having a "less expensive" product in a Ford doesn't seem so far fetched.
@@TheStraightPipes Ford has a strange issue with that. But it's fixable, in the sound settings turn treble all the way up, turn mid up +2 and turn bass +4 and boom, night and day difference. Works wonders on my 2014 fusion
Your reviews are so honest and just on point for the everyday owner. Been watching your videos for a while and I wish you guys had the amount of subscribers you deserve. Your videos are much higher quality than some other car reviewers. Please do not lose what makes you guys great. Btw just the right amount of clickbait for the title 👌🏼
Lol love watching you two. I can’t believe there’s no review on the old Ford Explorer Sport or Platinum it’s the 1st or 2nd most selling 3 row SUV in North America. Probably not with it now with the new one being released in a few months. Looking forward to that review and the Honda Passport. Keep up the good work.
Guys love your video and yes the edge ST is overpriced. Just get 2018 edge sport and save $10k. Also why didn’t ford used the newer 9-10 speed transmission.
Could you guys do a 'Box Score' (kind of like the Doug Score, but actually useful) for every class of vehicles you guys review? That would be very helpful in knowing the actual useful storage. Yes, I could look up the cubic feet numbers online, but that doesn't really tell me anything
@@TheStraightPipes Lol, I meant like how many boxes you could fit in each of the cars you review, and then compare it to other cars in a similar class.
Seems to me if there was a critical test drive before launching this car they would fix most if not all of said issues. But this is a part bin car. They aim for the stats and a price and glue on parts that are already available in the Ford parts list. It's a pity, because Ford used to make cars and ST and RS badges really meant something ...
I kinda would like to know what's wrong with the B&O sound system. I've experienced the Sony system in the 2018 Edge and find it amazing but haven't had the chance to test out the B&O in the new Edge.
A new video is always a great birthday gift! Anyway, I think this new Edge ST is kinda half-baked. I like the Edge and this one is pretty cool, but it’s not cool enough, or (more importantly) sporty enough to be an ST, let alone a performance SUV. I guess in its defense, it’s a lot less expensive than its competitors, but you can see why. I think you’re better off just buying a used Macan, or even a new Macan.
I was watching for the ST to arrive since it was first announced. I have a Focus ST and (had) an Audi Q5 as a daily driver. I was hoping to take the size and luxury of my Audi and the fun to drive aspect of the ST and combine them in this. I never made it to the late delivery times- all the bad reviews told me I had to look elsewhere. I ended up with the Navarro Blue SQ5. Yes- it cost about 10k more than this would have but I feel like it is just such a large step above. And I can still go drive my Focus ST when I need the manual transmission fix. Big disappointment to a Ford fan. Great review guys- I cannot get enough of your vids.
And I thought these guys said only good things about a vehicle they review, here they mention negative aspects honestly while keeping it light and not at all forced.
851995STARGATE, u look like a women reaching back and fourth in the center console If ford isn’t gonna give me a real sport suv Then at least try to fake it with a real gear selector
what a great review, to the point and unbiased.. loved it. best wishes from the west coast guys!! off topic, do you think it might help to give a bit more info on variants when you review cars, coz I recently bought a Mazda 3( i know you guys hate it :)), but for a first time buyer the number of variants at a showroom was just so overwhelming.
Great vid, worth the wait! I have owned only Fords and never liked the Edge. The Escape does everthing all right. Edge is just tacked on stuff way overpriced. Glad we still have Ford cars in Germany. My dad just ordered a 2019 Focus ST-Line. Looks cool but is more economic since he doesnt do any performance driving. There will be a "real" FocusST coming this year too in Europe and the new FiST is already available.
I just picked up my Edge ST on Monday and it's been parked in the garage during the Polar Vortex. I'm looking forward to getting it on some open roads this weekend and to see whether the 8-speed calibration has been improved relative to the vehicle in the video. Why did I get it? It's not that much more per month on lease than the base Edge which is the smallest I can go for family-hauling while providing more to smile about when I'm solo or want to hear the kids scream. I think that the seats are comfortable and I like the looks inside and out except for some DNA aspects of the center stack. I really don't like the third turbo (i.e. audio boost); that should be a user setting. The heated steering wheel gets so much hotter (+1) than the 2018 that now I wish it had level settings (-1).
Am really surprised that the other two North American manufacturers have not started a marketing campaign touting the fact that they still make cars. Time to exploit this to their gain.
Former Ford owner here, syncing driver/passenger climate control and heated steering wheel button are also BURIED in the infotainment, although in my Fusion the right screen in the instrument cluster has a 'Climate' section where you can adjust the air temp/fan speed via the steering wheel, which is cool. Also, if you get a new text when you're driving an alert pops up on that screen and you can have the car read the message to you by pressing a single steering wheel button, which is miles better than any other system if had (including my C class).
The paddle shifting logic might not be great but is the transmission smooth? I hear a lot of people observing transmission response and shift times but never about smoothness. I'm willing to overlook such quirks IF the transmission is smooth.
@@TheStraightPipes guess you are right. But with that said, for almost the exact same base MSRP ($42k for the edge ST and $43k for the R/T) they are very much competing for a similar chunk of the market. But if you are looking for almost an apples to apples comparison. Why not the Jeep Grand Cherokee with the Hemi? More offroad capabilities, adjustable air suspension (an option). Better interior, more comfortable overall. The Edge ST is nothing more than an Edge sport with different badging. Nothing else directly competes with it because frankly there is no reason to. The Audi SQ5 (as you said) is the next best thing but at a much higher price point. But the Audi SQ5 is also a German Luxury vehicle compared to an American SUV.
What do you think of the Edge ST? Does it deserve the ST badge?
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Hell nah
TheStraightPipes why were you out of focus yuri 😭
TheStraightPipes an idea...can you do a review, but have it be recording from first impressions while reviewing it to get that un-edited real reaction to it?
Who cares?? You can see they are changing the name of their performance cars!
Apparently the new one 2020 will have higher numbers similar to other 3.0 turbo Ford's...
For this price and power this is just an edge sport replacement, carry over year.
Bro this is the ONLY car (and horse) review channel I can truly say is “Great”. The camera shots, audio, and in depth descriptions of vehicles is PERFECT. The thumbnails? THE BEST. Straight Pipes sets the bar for how car reviews should be. Music isn’t annoying, it’s not louder than the dialogue, there isn’t super corny intros, they get straight into it. AND they talk about it from the point of view of an everyday Joe. Not all have a racetrack to our disposal everyday **cough** Top Gear **cough**. You guys deserve wayyyyyyyyy more subs than all those other “car review” channels.
Ryan C. Thanks. That’s exactly what we’re going for one 100%. Jakub pin this guys comment for me. *emotional*
Yuri Tereshyn wow thanks **emotional** car comments **GONE RIGHT**
totally agree
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That fake engine noise sounds like something is broken. Weird
Yeah its not good
Vw gti makes the best fake engine noise and I love it.
They have a sound symposer in the focus st and we typically delete it myself included it sounds alright but the edge st symposer sounds terrible
@@isabelle.c011 Most quiet modern cars have symposers
TheStraightPipes I don’t want my wife to know that I’m flooring it-keep it quiet!
Angry moms will enjoy driving this “Super Car”
I saw one of these in blue the other day with black wheels. It looked sharp. Maybe I'm prejudice, as I own a Mustang V-6. I'm leery of the ecoboost engine though.
You’re so right!
A Stanton1966 Leary due to reliability? I’ve driven a few diff EB fords they are impressive a lot like a diesel with instant torque but still rev out. I actually want a EB Mustang. They cost more to repair though, all that boost plumbing adds a lot of man hours to repair work. Look at the difference in repairing a head gasket on a HEMI vs a 3.5 EB for example. Ouch!
I'm leary of the ecoboost due to the turbo and, on some trucks, the use of a plastic oil pan and drain plug. I don't know if the EB uses this oil pan. I know the GT and Shelby does and for this reason I won't upgrade to a GT. I've heard cases where the pan doesn't give a good seal and leaks oil. I like the looks of the Challengers and Chargers, however, I'm leary of their electronics. Everything goes through that info center, even the heated seats and fan speeds. For now I'll keep my V-6 Mustang.
So much tailgating
Having owned a 2016 Edge Sport for the last two years I can say that for the money it is reasonable value. It is comfortable and quiet on the highway. Has enough power and torque to carry four people with a full load of luggage and easily can haul ass in any passing manoeuvre. Fully loaded editions have the safety and convenience features that most people want. Yes a European competitor is probably a better vehicle to drive but outfit them with the same options and you are 20 K apart. It is an SUV and yes you do sit higher up but handling is very good and easy to precisely pick a line while driving. The ST is an evolved step up from the Sport with the bigger brakes, more power and torque, more bolstering on the seats. I’m guessing most people will never use paddle shifters any so leaving the transmission in auto mode will do fine.
This is a niche vehicle for people who want that punch of V6 torque with a sporty style that can still do family duties. If you are shopping Audi SQ5, BMW X3M40i or GLC AMG 43 you are not comparing apples to apples.
I agree with you 100%. Love this thing and it’s in a class of its own. Own a 2011 sport now and I love it
@@MarvFitBikesKicks the 2011s are BADASS with those 22s!! Never get rid of it, they are RARE and a true well built old Ford!
Thx for your comments I was thinking of buying a Ford Edge and this review was to picky for me to get a good review on the vehicle.
just got me a 2015 sport edge with all the features i love it hoping it lasts me a long time has 100k. crazy i went from driving a 27 year old truck to this
How many mile is your car? I am going to buy Edge and hope it will last long at least 200k miles without any issue.
Dad here who wants to beat his SIL onto the highway. I test drove one of these the first chance I got, and I have to agree with most of your critiques. The biggest problem is that transmission, and hopefully that's something they can fix in a later model year. Other than that, this car ticks a lot of boxes for me, I can put a two car seats in the back, dogs in the trunk, and tow a small camper all while still having a bit of fun in my daily. That being said, I didn't buy one. I already own a Focus ST and its hard to jump from a 20k car that was great, up to a 50k car that's just okay.
Man I am in the EXACT same position as you! I've owned a Focus ST going on 6 years now and love it to death, but would like something a little bigger. We only have one kid, but also have two big dogs, so this has been on my radar ever since it was announced. Might wait another year and pickup a lightly used but heavily discounted Stinger GT instead...
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I can do the same with a lt1 powered t56 swapped Buick Roadmaster
Lol wagons are better then suv
@@freedom24v86 I love the Roadmaster as much as anyone, my high school friends and I used to goof around in that thing all the time, smokin up tires like cigarettes lmao but also, the car basically folded in half when my friend got t-boned in an intersection. The only argument I'd put forward in favor of a modern SUV over the Roadmaster is modern safety/build standards lol
@@theoblivion87 well moderen wagons exist hahah i was just using a road master as an example of a fun wagon
I personally hate suvs slow bad handling crap mpg
While wagons are more car based lower center of gravity list goes on why wagons are better and they can tow most of what youd need
I mean shit even all the old wagons sat around 4k-5k lbs towing capacity
And can be made into fun dailys
And honestly all cars fold like tacos when t boned
Subaru is so missing out by not bringing us Forester XT (compare to Ford ST), Forester STi (compare to Ford RS). And CrossTrek turbo.
I think there is a sti Forester coming out soon!
Jay Brown I would like to see that!! 😱
In pretty sure I saw a 2019 XT the other day it had red accents and it was a fun metallic gray
Not really ,since the sale of xt only make up small percentage of forester.
XT has been axed on all markets for now.
It’s snowing. I’m on call but the Straight Pipes dropping A Sunday morning review fixed all that! I can’t say that I’m a fan of the Edge. After seeing the Volvo XC 40 I can’t stop thinking I want that!
I've been dropping over the xc40 for months. Tempted
Yes! Buy the volvo!
Get the Volvo. It does not disappoint! I've had mine for 10 months now. Love it!!
@@jeffs6090 I've only heard great things about it. I was going to get a model 3 but when the rebate was cancelled I shifted towards the Volvo.
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You guys critique cars better than Gordon Ramsey critiques food. I love how honest you are on this one.
We should start swearing and throwing stuff
TheStraightPipes after watching his interview with Shaun Evans of hotOnes I was just thinking to myself you guys need more "sh*ts" in your videos . 😂😂😂😂
Finally the Straight Pipes using click-baitier titles. I hope this gets the amount of subscribers you deserve
The *Emotional* part is the only joke part
I watched the entire video closely. My wife and I both own FiST's and I was eager to hear about what this abomination of the ST line was all about.Great video like always, I agree it shouldn't wear the badge.
Anyways... The title is 100% legit. However, I do hope for many more subs!
Agreed! you guys need to go viral! clickbait every time - your fans aren’t going anywhere. we’re already here for your awesome reviews
Am I missing something? Title is pretty generic.
if they put a question mark at the end then it would be click bait
"Dads who wants to drive faster than their brother-law" LMAO🤣
I am 17 and just bought a 2015 😭😭😭
@@cheezysimmons3701 why the fuck
I actually really like the edge ST. I didn’t expect to. I test drove one, it handles great, a nice exhaust (from the OUTSIDE, i don’t like fake exhaust pumped in the speakers), and it’s really fast. Love the looks too.
I agree. I have a '17 Sport and I love it. Its fun to drive, has the perfect amount of cargo space, and has been insanely reliable. What's not to like?
That fake engine audio is terrible. So really they just slapped aST badge on a sport.
same fake noise that the Fiesta ST, Focus ST and RS get.
@@Mogsy28uk Nah, the Focus ST had much more subtle "fake" sound, and it was actually real sound pumped through a symposer tube from the intake (even though it still sounds real fake). As a bonus, disabling the sound is as easy as unplugging the stupid little valve that controls it, or getting a $30 symposer delete kit.
and Performance Blue lmao
Everything sounds diff in person then on a device. Kid
When in doubt Braap_it out triggered much?
Ford made a mistake getting rid of the focus RS & ST
they haven't got rid of those, new Focus MK4 ST is out in the autumn, globally. Granted they are about a year too late marketing/sales wise....18+ months after the MK4 launched, so a lot of customers have gone to other brands for hot hatches.
@@Mogsy28uk They got rid of them in the US. The rest of the world can continue getting their hot hatch on while America gets dumped on, by our own car company no less.
If people bought the Focus or Fiesta ST.. they'd still be selling them. People vote with their dollars, and their dollars are going to crossovers. Still available in other countries, so they can always bring them back if NA finally gets over this crossover thing.
@@rustlesee And the Focus ST wagon? Man, if that ever comes over here, it'd be, 'Crossover who?'
@@lego4virgo, seriously. A good wagon or hatch gets me double taking these days. The Focus Active promised a lot too. I need a truck for work, but it's nice to "window shop" on hatches.
I have a 2018 Edge Sport with 16,360 miles on it... Love it, so far
You guys thinking of reviewing a ford explorer ST?
Yeah
@@TheStraightPipes they did.
Pumping in fake sound makes sense in a Tesla, but in a "performance" suv? hmm I'm not digging it
6:14 lol
Actually Elon would fight you on that lol
Technically it’s not fake in that it’s still the sound from the engine. It’s just pumped in with a valve through the speakers
Fake sound for a Tesla would be an actual fake sound. They could make it sound like anything they want
I think it would be even stupider in a Tesla
Am I the only person that hates the new gen Ford Edge?
No, you're not. They look bloated to me and they really found a way to devalue them ST badge. When Jakub said it reminded him of Mr. Bean, that's exactly the feeling. Ford sold it's soul wheen they axed all of their cars.
Toby Tong no - it looks outdated
The older edge sport looks better, no doubt.
I miss the light bar tail lights
Height and length are way out of proportion to width, looks "tippy."
You guys doing a great job as always! Especially love the brief short vid you made for this review to prove your point regarding the paddle shifting! I noticed you’re doing more of that stuff lately in your reviews... it’s very insightful and shows us exactly what you’re talking about quickly!
That thing looks ridiculous. Guess I'll never understand SUVs.
SUVs are nice when they aren’t imitating sports cars
@Rique cuvs are just hatch backs with awful performance and efficiency. The higher ride height is the only draw I can see. Full size suvs actually have a use.
but the german performance ones make some sense. This is just bad
Ford calls this an SUV but make no mistake, it is actually a crossover. And a crossover is simply a small minivan with forward hinged rear doors.
I’d be different and get something like.a Volvo Polestar wagon. EVERYONE has an SUV these days . So cookie cutter. Fiesta ST is my daily driver.
My wife has a black 16’ edge sport and it’s an amazing all around vehicle! Matches my 13’ Taurus SHO very well... Question. Why would you try to down shift again at redline and then say that the trans is bad when it won’t let you?
Great review guys! Come on Ford though, for a company that is abandoning cars to focus on SUVs and trucks, I am sure you can do better especially considering how old the Edge is. A new Edge in the near term I hope...
Jean-Francois They’ll figure out their mistake when gas prices go up again and nobody buys new SUV's
So, in summation, an American commentary is that Ford did a half-ass job in putting this vehicle together.
A Canadian commentary is similar, the 2019 Ford Edge ST is half-baked. Canadians are so polite....
This is the review I've been waiting for. I own a 2015 kia optima sx turbo, and need to upgrade for space for my kids. My first choice is the stinger, it has the power and trunk space, but it's not an SUV which every wife seems to want. The other review I'm waiting for is the chevy blazer rs. Right now price wise, power wise, utility wise, and wife and kids happy wise, this vehicle really can't be beat.
Try explaining to your wife that a crossover (like the Edge) is really just a smaller minivan with front hinged rear doors. Enjoy your new Stinger GT.
Great review guys. Hope Ford watches it and fixes the transmission. Automakers also need to give owners the option to turn off fake engine noise .
Yeah ,they fixed it on 2020 model year or the 2021 I am not sure
Problem with this Edge ST(from what I figured from the video) is it's trying to do 2 different things at the same time. One, it is an SUV with at least mild off-road ability, driving kids and people around and going for long trips; there it kinda falls appart cuz seats arent comfortable, engine can sound gravelly and annoying, climate can be annoying. Then, as an ST, you want it to be able to haul lots of loads and do stuff sometimes quickly and enjoying it. However, not with that transmission, which would piss me personally off, then, again, that engine note in Sport mode... that gauge cluster looks subpar at best(compared to VWs for example). This SUV nails half of its' purpose in 2 different ways, but fails others halfs in 2 same ways...
Nobody and I mean nobody should ever use paddle shifters in anything but a high end sports car!
As an ST, being sporty is priority.
Good car or not, these "ST" subs are all bastardization of the name.
"...people who used to buy the Grand Prix."
Subtly brilliant. 😂
Well boys they listened to your critique and added an "ST-line" option for 2020 with the base engine but kept all the looks of the ST, as you suggested. You guys did it!
Im very surprised you guys didn’t like the audio system. I absolutely love it. 800watts and no distortion at all volume levels. The old Sony systems were complete garbage though. Make sure you enable surround emulation though.
Any ford with the b&o is trash this like Bose home theater speakers all highs and mods but no bass what so ever he’ll my mom just got a 2023. Explorer king ranch and the sub was already blown within the first week and this is while professionally tuning the system if ford used the revel system 😍😍 they would have more buyers
@@explosivesgod2659 I agree its not a great system. I dont hate it but I definitely wish they used the revel system from the Lincolns in the ST models. The edge seems to sound better than the explorer with the B&O for some reason though. Might just be the speaker arrangement and cabin size.
It does have an odd place in the market. However, if you're wondering who might buy it, it'd be my wife and I who are looking to replace our Forester XT. Since Subaru is no longer be selling the turbo forester, the Edge ST is looking to be a really nice replacement.
For some reason the back makes me think of the Pontiac Aztek
I thought the same.
looks an awful lot like the Habanero from GTA IV and V haha
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the rear is terrible....
Nah, eclipse cross does it worse
I'd rather buy a Kona EV for that price! You guys have driven both; what would you choose?
@Throw Rowley the comparison is off (because the kona is much smaller) but korean cars (which aren't really build there - but whatever) made huge leaps forward in the last years. i'd actually take a hyundai/kia over a ford any day because they're just better and much better value...
@@OnfireProjects Agreed. I would buy a Hyundai or Kia over a Ford any day.
My next normal car will be an EV
Different buyers but I get it. You could even get a Model 3 midrange for this, at least that car knows what it is. This Edge ST is confused.
-TheManInDboX - I’m gonna do it
Look at what they did to my boy ...
Zaid Kidwai great movie
The overly tall ride height is to appeal to crossover lovers who feel "unsafe" driving at a low (normal) ride height.
They'll say things like "Ohhh I feel intimidated by bigger cars." Cry me a river.
Well the Edge ST might be good for autocross
But it can never replace Fiesta ST and Focus ST/RS
why on earth do you think an edge st would be good for autocross?
Chrx x there was a track test and the handling is surprisingly good but it can’t Fiesta ST and Focus ST/RS
Aurocrossing this massive hunk of shit sounds like an awful idea
LOL I'm sure it's better than some other SUVs in terms of handling but probably not better than a smaller, lighter car.
Best reviewers on the planet! Give them a tv show now (And theyre Canadians!!!)
Can the TV show be on TH-cam so it's free for everyone to watch?
@@TheStraightPipes So status quo?
Curious about hoovies new show now...
They are entertaining, knowledgeable and honest opinions. Love these guys for reviews.
Nah, no TV show, just throw money at them so they can make more good stuff on youtube! More comparos and track stuff I hope
Not worthy of the ST badge indeed. Both Ford STs always had several distinct elements to them that set them apart from their regular-trim counterparts.
1. A distinct lack of advanced driver assistance tech (Blind spot monitoring, Cross Traffic Alert, Auto Parking, Parking Sensors, etc). Stripping that away wouldn't've been hard to do either, and could've saved some cost to the sticker price. People who want to DRIVE the car do not want the tech trying to do their driving FOR them.
2. Manual Transmission only. The european Edge comes standard with a 6-speed, so doing this wouldn't've been that difficult. They could've at least put a dual-cluitch in it...
3. Performance Oriented Gearing. Both the Focus & Fiesta STs had shorter gearing overall, with 6th in the Focus ST cruising @ 100km/h @ 2200RPM. Still gets decent fuel economy when cruising, not so much when on the throttle, but, hey, at least it's fun to gun it when you are.
4. Highly Bolstered Seating, both at the thigh and torso areas. You already covered why the Edge ST doesn't have that.
5. The most real fake sound possible. On the Focus & Fiesta ST, Induction sound was pumped into the cabin via an actual tube with an electronically-controlled valve when you're on the throttle. It may have been artificially activated, but at least it was the real sound, and not this crap added via the regular speakers. It's that "throaty" sound that you talked about with the Focus ST.
Then, to think that they're going to make an Explorer ST...
So, in the Focus RS it was found there was a plug in the back you can just disconnect from the amp/audio box. Pretty much right under the tray you would look under to find a spare tire. When you disconnect this cable it disabled the fake exhaust audio that's piped through the speakers. Wonder if if that works the same in the Edge ST. If so, it's a quick fix.
Im sorry, but FORD makes some dull ass interiors
Nad3 most american comapines do tbh, other than cadillac and shit
Nad3 everything is easy to use as well
I think that this interior looks OLDER rather than newer! It looks like an older Ford interior to me! (Not the good way, either.)
Mark of Excellence it has all the new technology and is easy to use,but the design is older
Sadly, Subaru is worse.
great, now Hertz will have a car to put in their "performance" category!
I like this conflicted review, in regards to the "who is going to buy this?" it's not going to be pervious ST owners, for 42K I would rather buy a used Focus RS and spend 15K fixing it.
2018 Focus RS LE are still available in Canada and are marked down from $60K MSRP to $45-$47K. You'd be crazy to buy this ST badged minivan instead of an RS.
@@kevindust2712 New RS with an LSD would make me soooooo happy
$56,000 CAD for an average crossover that generally just disappoints.
also its a ford lol
You can find titanium’s for half the price that are fully loaded lol
Visor test, small Tim's test, now we need to see if you can fit at least 3 Marlboro's in the glovebox for the bogey test
You guys always make the most enjoyable content, minus the ridiculous amount of commercials. I have to click through four commercials for a 15 min video, which is annoying!
I almost spit my coffee out after hearing the price. If for some reason you really like this car just wait 2-3 years for the value to drop 30%.
It’s almost 30-35k USD now. This aged well
Lol I pictured a Ford sales meeting "...but in this next graph you can see clearly we are killing it in the Dad's who want to smoke their brother in law segment"
Lmao
So basically if you want an Edge, just get a Titanium.
Barobran92 escape has almost the same amount of room as the edge so the only trim that makes sense is the St
@@ALEX-sh3tx Except the Edge looks way better and is newer.
The exhaust tips do everything right. 1. Exhaust actually goes out 2. It's an opportunity to add styling.
With this type of great content you are soon going to reach 1m subscriber.
Best opening to a video you guys have had so far!
Ford expects people to pay $40K US for this pile?
Better than GM or FCA junk
Actually it's $50K
@@aaronmcconkey6448 Better than a Mercedes RWD chassis derived Durango RT with an ZF 8 speed transmission? Yea ok, dumbass.
I agree! I was going to go look at one of these today until I saw that sticker.
I wish you million of subs really, the best car related channel on TH-cam
“It feels nice in my hands”- that’s what she said
I hear that from a lot of Ford vehicles reviews regarding high bucket seat integration. They all say that they're not seating "in" but "on" the chairs.
Car companies really need to hire information engineer/designers that have more common sense and the intuition about safe driving habits rather than tech savvy nitwits who put aesthetics first.
Top channel! Hope you guys get to review the new Mazda 3 hatch/sedan ASAP.
this car makes me extremely sad
yeah i thought about it some more, this car just really bums me out
We wanted to like it
@@SeanLazer yeah the explorer St is definitely worthy though. and its barely more expensive! Will not disappoint
So the B&O sound system wasn't good? Strange given their reputation. My guess would be that they put the cheapest quality speakers they could get while still putting the B&O logo on?
It was really muffled at high volumes
@@TheStraightPipes That's weird. Thanks for the reply, love your channel
I love B&O, but they're just Philips electronics underneath. So the idea you've proposed, it wouldn't be impossible, they do their best work in European vehicles like Audi and Aston, so having a "less expensive" product in a Ford doesn't seem so far fetched.
@@TheStraightPipes Ford has a strange issue with that. But it's fixable, in the sound settings turn treble all the way up, turn mid up +2 and turn bass +4 and boom, night and day difference. Works wonders on my 2014 fusion
Yeah it sucks I'm my EcoSport also. The Sony I'm my escape is way better
intro music? straight pipes production?
I like when you guys are honest! Makes the review interesting!! Love it
We’re always honest
Your reviews are so honest and just on point for the everyday owner. Been watching your videos for a while and I wish you guys had the amount of subscribers you deserve. Your videos are much higher quality than some other car reviewers. Please do not lose what makes you guys great. Btw just the right amount of clickbait for the title 👌🏼
Except the emotional part lol because it wasn’t.
Lol love watching you two. I can’t believe there’s no review on the old Ford Explorer Sport or Platinum it’s the 1st or 2nd most selling 3 row SUV in North America. Probably not with it now with the new one being released in a few months. Looking forward to that review and the Honda Passport. Keep up the good work.
Guys love your video and yes the edge ST is overpriced. Just get 2018 edge sport and save $10k. Also why didn’t ford used the newer 9-10 speed transmission.
What about the 9 speed it shares with the GM. The Buick 8 speed wasn’t smooth however 9 speed GM and Ford made is smooth
@@BassRacerx the 10-speed comes on many 4 wheel drive Ford vehicles....
@@BassRacerx i was replying to what was said above me saying it doesn't support 4x4.
Love how they don't hold back! Keep it up guys!
Damn I wanted this to be my future dadmobile
Could you guys do a 'Box Score' (kind of like the Doug Score, but actually useful) for every class of vehicles you guys review? That would be very helpful in knowing the actual useful storage.
Yes, I could look up the cubic feet numbers online, but that doesn't really tell me anything
Every box is 63L
@@TheStraightPipes Lol, I meant like how many boxes you could fit in each of the cars you review, and then compare it to other cars in a similar class.
The exhaust looks weird
These boys make such great videos, I always enjoy them no matter what, even when they're reviewing literally the worst of the worst kind of vehicle.
Yuri you got a hella nice fade
Do you get the VW Tiguan R-Line in Canada? It is less powerful but by far not as expensive as an SQ3
Seems to me if there was a critical test drive before launching this car they would fix most if not all of said issues. But this is a part bin car. They aim for the stats and a price and glue on parts that are already available in the Ford parts list.
It's a pity, because Ford used to make cars and ST and RS badges really meant something ...
I kinda would like to know what's wrong with the B&O sound system. I've experienced the Sony system in the 2018 Edge and find it amazing but haven't had the chance to test out the B&O in the new Edge.
Found it was muffled at higher volumes compared to most other cars with good sound systems
In 2019, Ford releases the Edge ST. In 2020 Ford discontinued the Edge ST because of sales.
And because of all the TH-cam reviewers 😁
Alot of reviewers like them though
not going to be that many sales, limited to US/CA only, and nobody who is an ST fan, wants and auto/CVT based transmission.
A new video is always a great birthday gift!
Anyway, I think this new Edge ST is kinda half-baked. I like the Edge and this one is pretty cool, but it’s not cool enough, or (more importantly) sporty enough to be an ST, let alone a performance SUV. I guess in its defense, it’s a lot less expensive than its competitors, but you can see why. I think you’re better off just buying a used Macan, or even a new Macan.
Happy birthday! Funny enough we filmed this on my birthday - Jakub
TheStraightPipes
Aye happy belated birthday
42k for an Edge? You must be out of your flippin' mind, Ford.
Just wait a year to get a used one for 32k lol, id love one have one
Lol that’s ridiculous. I’d buy a highlander at that price
For the saftey and tech inside which most reviews for some reason dont focus on, compared to competition it unfortunately is a bargain
Paul Jamieson you might want to watch the video again. It’s $49k Canadian. Ford is smoking crack or what they’re charging for this thing.
In Malaysia you get new myvi with low spec with that price 🤣
Sync 3 is one of the best. Not sure what you guys are taking about.
I was watching for the ST to arrive since it was first announced. I have a Focus ST and (had) an Audi Q5 as a daily driver. I was hoping to take the size and luxury of my Audi and the fun to drive aspect of the ST and combine them in this. I never made it to the late delivery times- all the bad reviews told me I had to look elsewhere. I ended up with the Navarro Blue SQ5. Yes- it cost about 10k more than this would have but I feel like it is just such a large step above. And I can still go drive my Focus ST when I need the manual transmission fix. Big disappointment to a Ford fan. Great review guys- I cannot get enough of your vids.
SQ5 is godly
Most honest review of the Edge ST I've seen. I wish i could buy a Ford and the Edge is the best size for me, but I'll pass.
Another awesome review! Should not be an ST. Like you guys said, the "Sport" line should have lived on for this kind of vehicle.
And I thought these guys said only good things about a vehicle they review, here they mention negative aspects honestly while keeping it light and not at all forced.
Always honest. Most cars are good
Can people stop putting these stupid gear "leavers" in cars, that look like a volume control of my radio please?
It saves space. You don't need to use it much in an auto.
@@Robert-goose1 I know, but I still really hate it. I'm a bit oldschool
@@stefanwinter1377 why? It's actually super nice once you've used it
@@851995STARGATE I've used it once in a F150 and I just didn't like it. Like I said, I'm a bit oldschool.
851995STARGATE, u look like a women reaching back and fourth in the center console
If ford isn’t gonna give me a real sport suv
Then at least try to fake it with a real gear selector
what a great review, to the point and unbiased.. loved it. best wishes from the west coast guys!! off topic, do you think it might help to give a bit more info on variants when you review cars, coz I recently bought a Mazda 3( i know you guys hate it :)), but for a first time buyer the number of variants at a showroom was just so overwhelming.
Yuri now loves any mazda with the Apple Carplay and tune mix. They fixed it all.
The Ford Endura. We should at least get this in Australia where we appreciate performance cars and SUVs.
Only thing you're really missing out on is the Shelbys, most Amurrican fords aren't that neato.
I waited all day to finish my errands and shit I had to do to finally sit down and watch this!
Absolutely Legendary review.
LOVE IT. You guys are always too positive in your reviews, this was a nice change of pace. I love when reviewers speak their minds.
We're not too positive. Cars are just mostly good
Great vid, worth the wait! I have owned only Fords and never liked the Edge. The Escape does everthing all right. Edge is just tacked on stuff way overpriced. Glad we still have Ford cars in Germany. My dad just ordered a 2019 Focus ST-Line. Looks cool but is more economic since he doesnt do any performance driving. There will be a "real" FocusST coming this year too in Europe and the new FiST is already available.
I just picked up my Edge ST on Monday and it's been parked in the garage during the Polar Vortex. I'm looking forward to getting it on some open roads this weekend and to see whether the 8-speed calibration has been improved relative to the vehicle in the video.
Why did I get it? It's not that much more per month on lease than the base Edge which is the smallest I can go for family-hauling while providing more to smile about when I'm solo or want to hear the kids scream. I think that the seats are comfortable and I like the looks inside and out except for some DNA aspects of the center stack. I really don't like the third turbo (i.e. audio boost); that should be a user setting. The heated steering wheel gets so much hotter (+1) than the 2018 that now I wish it had level settings (-1).
Awesome!
Am really surprised that the other two North American manufacturers have not started a marketing campaign touting the fact that they still make cars. Time to exploit this to their gain.
Chevy is doing the same thing. And Dodge is using the same platform for the 20th year running. Nothing to talk up
My first time watching your vids and I'm genuinely impressed with the quality😊
edge RS?
Aksel KS no
Former Ford owner here, syncing driver/passenger climate control and heated steering wheel button are also BURIED in the infotainment, although in my Fusion the right screen in the instrument cluster has a 'Climate' section where you can adjust the air temp/fan speed via the steering wheel, which is cool. Also, if you get a new text when you're driving an alert pops up on that screen and you can have the car read the message to you by pressing a single steering wheel button, which is miles better than any other system if had (including my C class).
I feel like Ford was like "how can we build a vehicle with every single cliche that people dislike about current vehicles trends?"
The paddle shifting logic might not be great but is the transmission smooth? I hear a lot of people observing transmission response and shift times but never about smoothness. I'm willing to overlook such quirks IF the transmission is smooth.
I talked about that. It's fine in auto
The Edge is a car for the elderly. Making an ST version of this is like putting a supercharger on an old Cadillac Deville.
The engine would be nice for towing, but yeah, pretending it's a sport car is a little silly.
Ranger ST: regular cab short bed, 2.7 v6 Ecoboost with AWD
Ford has gone completely off the rails.
4:24 Yes, it does look good. Black plastic under grille could use a redesign/removal.
I see Straight Pipes, I press like. I'm a simple man
I'm confused by what people call the driving position. If the seat and steering wheel move, can't you change the position to your liking?
Can't move the seat any lower
I'm definitely a StraightPiper
Your definitely like pipe
When you guys were cost comparing did you forget about the Durango R/T?
No that's 3 rows
@@TheStraightPipes guess you are right. But with that said, for almost the exact same base MSRP ($42k for the edge ST and $43k for the R/T) they are very much competing for a similar chunk of the market. But if you are looking for almost an apples to apples comparison. Why not the Jeep Grand Cherokee with the Hemi? More offroad capabilities, adjustable air suspension (an option). Better interior, more comfortable overall. The Edge ST is nothing more than an Edge sport with different badging. Nothing else directly competes with it because frankly there is no reason to. The Audi SQ5 (as you said) is the next best thing but at a much higher price point. But the Audi SQ5 is also a German Luxury vehicle compared to an American SUV.