Apple River stabbing trial: Legal analyst says state 'came out swinging' in closing argument
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- Legal analyst Debbie Lang said the state "came out swinging" in the closing arguments in the Apple River stabbing trial on Wednesday.
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Why were none of those kids charged with assault?
Why weren't they charged with assault? Yes prime question here. Why aren't they being investigated for purjury? Why aren't the people who furnished minors alcohol being charged for those crimes? Why aren't their parents being charged for ChildA-neglect for the ones under 18 who were intoxicated on the river that day? I'm from Wisconsin. We have a culture of parents hosting and it's typically reasonable. This is the one that really needs to be made an example of because EVERYTHING IS WRONG on this whole case!! Everyone is guilty who was there. Perhaps not of murder but none the less criminal negligence at the very least. Assault for the boys definitely probably also that witch Madison.
@@sneakyviewing4391 yep!
Or charged for under age drinking
He got hit because he hit a woman.
you have proof of the assault?
Walk away how? From the bottom of the river after he was punched and thrown into the water? Should he have swam away?
The water was very shallow . He walked over to them so he could have walked back!
@@donaconway5087 he was surrounded and getting choked. I think his lies to police did him in. He could had have walked but he opened his mouth to cops.
Not guilty…self defense
then why didn't he run to the cops and tell the truth?
You can't count chicken's.
@mediaterrorists8969 His actions afterwards aren't what is important it's what actually occurred in the altercation and that man clearly had a right to do what he did those kids attacked him and the ones that didn't did not get hurt at all......see a pattern?
@@DemocratsLoveKummyInTheirTummy What's important is he guts 5 teens because they were typical teens that act like bratty kids in groups.... No ones shocked.... you don't want this, raise better kids.... at this point kids are only getting worse.... Bring back the belt, harsh discipline and tough love.... Should actually be taught to ALL pregnant couples in order to receive prenatal care... I'd be 100% for that but until then, adults have to leave unknown kids alone which most reasonable people do
@mediaterrorists8969 So the teens attack him and it's his fault?
Self defense
The guy faced a group of drunken jackals.
Madison is the real villain of this entire story. Why did she escalate? I’m willing to bet she never got hit/punched/slapped whatever story these guys want to invent. They swarmed him, and thought they were all tough. They F’ed around and found out real fast.
Nick Miu looked to Madison Coen to be the adult in the room, to help bring some sanity to this unfolding madness. She failed miserably, and instead betrayed a shocking weakness of mind and character as she immediately succumbed to the mob mentality present that day. Such a shame.
who's madison? at least the dog was ok.
Not guilty
If Im on jury it's NOT GUILTY
@@jvh8806 I am on the jury.
they can scream names at him all they want .. but the moment they put their hands on, and surrounded him, he had a Right to Defend himself..!
Except his own friend testified he assaulted first 🤦♂️
Gross. This little town only saw the local news reports and tainted the jury with the ‘football’ kids.
The little town may agree with you, but the rest of the country thinks this is a miscarriage of justice.
Let's remember who started this shit show -- it was the group of drunk young people. It was 13 against 1. Mr. Miu was scared shitless by this aggressive gang, and he defended himself effectively with his knife. Yes, he lied afterward and tried to cover up -- again, he was scared shitless. I hope the jurors vote Not guilty.
Agree
Let's remember who started the shit show - it was Miu who ran up on and grabbed the tubes of the drunken teens. It was Miu who pulled out his knife before any punches were thrown. He pulled out his knife because some teens heckled him (none had touched him prior to the knife coming out) and two women put a hand on his arm/chest and told him to "go". It was Miu who set off the altercation by hitting a woman in the face. It was Miu who stabbed 5 people. It was Miu who ditched the weapon, left the scene, and then repeatedly and purposefully lied to the cops.
Not guilty.
100% self defense
Wrong to lie afterwards but that does not change the fact that he acted in self defense.
I don’t lie, but if I was facing charges after I defended myself from a drunken, drugged up mob who attacked and could have killed me, I would have been thinking there are 13 witnesses against me and my whole life would be destroyed. I would have been so afraid. I hope I would never lie, but that is likely why he did. The bullies ALL lied on the stand again and again and again - and they were not even afraid of anything then. They have had zero consequences for their criminal behavior.
@jimhull3103 u dont believe a word of what u r saying lol 😆 must be victims friends
They overcharged on this. No personal responsibility at all for the drunk boys who started the whole thing by falsely screaming he's looking for little girls and getting others riled up, then assaulting him? It is a tragedy that a young man is dead but none of them would have been stabbed if they had floated on past this man. These kids are so entitled now, they have no fear of consequences, they think they can swarm and harass people.
Swarming, calling him names, even harassing does not justify gutting two people and stabbing three more! He was the first to approach them, make contact and refuse to go away when they told him too!
@ carolynsumners4915 he was trying to retrieve his phone dropped in river then he walked off ignoring them and talking to his wife and kids still kept harassing him and pushed him into the river
Well put
@@texican512 no he wasnt or the phone would have been provided as evidence
The "drunk boys" didn't kill or critically injure anybody. They hurt an old man's feelings. They didn't approach Miu. Miu approached them. He ran up and grabbed their tubes. None of the drunk kids touched Miu until he started hitting women and stabbing people. Miu pulled his weapon and hit a woman prior to any drunk kid touching him. He pulled out his knife and then hit a woman because some drunk kids were making fun of him AND two women touched him and told him to "go". He stabbed a 110 pound woman that was not touching or attacking him. He stabbed another guy (twice) that did nothing more than place a hand on his back and try to talk to him. After the stabbings: he gave no aid, ditched the weapon, left the scene, acted like he had no idea what happened when he was apprehended, and then REPEATEDLY lied to law enforcement about what happened. GUILTY and he knows it.
Why didn’t the gang that was attacking this guy run away instead of surrounding him?
He ran up on them sitting on their tubes, then he grabbed some of the kids legs & tubes. That’s when the kids started trolling him. They didn’t surround him. He walked into their group. No one even did anything to him till the altercation with the woman. Doesn’t even look like he was punched, he was pushed. Then he got up stabbed a bunch of people. Including 110 pound girl. You can’t tell me he was scared of 110 pound girl. Why stab somebody that pushes you? That seems like overkill. Not to mention hiding the weapon afterwards and lying to the cops about it. Do innocent people do this?
@@xtronkillmaster2517 So he can search public land for his private property. Why don't people understand that? They could have walked off each and every one of them. Especially the girl lying about getting hit.
@@sneakyviewing4391he did the stabbing and murder 🤦♀️
Alcohol will have that effect.
@@sneakyviewing4391 he wasnt searching public land, he was touching children and trying to get in their bags
Time to get this defendant home to his wife.
Except she divorced him after the incident lmao. The amount of misinformed people is astonishing.
@@davidscott2904 OK , time to get the defendant home to his dog instead. That do you?
NOT GUILTY
He was not just getting yelled at. He was getting assaulted
Also shouting "pedo" at someone in a crowd is not mere name calling. It is a clear call to murder.
100% It is so aggravating when people minimize it by saying he was only getting yelled at.
He did not get assaulted until he assaulted a girl!! People keep trying to forget that big part!!
You never hit a woman.
you have proof?
I had no idea that every time I got dressed after a swim that I was disguising myself.
getting dressed putting on a hat n glasses and then lay in your tube n float on smh 🤦♀️ not even help who u hurt
@@kellypujue999- There were individuals wielding BATS looking for him! What would you do?
Where do you hide your knife?
Maddie Cohen, you need to face your problems and work to better yourself. You can hide and blame others but it will never make you feel better about the part you played in this
😂
Why isn't anyone talking about how this girl Madison approached this guy and essentially started real hostilities? Is she a super citizen or does she get extra protection because she's a woman? Most sexist court case I've heard in quite awhile. Someone hitting a woman isn't a reason to start a fight it's a method desperate guys use to get it in and something women use to milk super citizen benefits of not having to be accountable for their actions. If any grown adult thinks they can be a hero on the river like that woman, she can be a hero in the court room too not hide like she's guilty as sin. I just want to know why didn't Madison walk away why did she approach a long with anyone else? The question to them needs to be asked as much as anyone wants to ask it to Mr. Miu.
I LOL’d when the defense attorney called her “the queen of the river” in closing. I wish we could’ve seen her testimony
I've never met Madison Cohen, but I don't like her role in this. I wish we could have seen/heard her testimony. She seems to be pivotal, (at least in everyone's narrative). Mr. Miu lied in the interrogation, because he thought/knew he was in trouble. The teens lied on the stand because they thought they could be in trouble. Mr. Karlson said he yelled "stop", because he thought he could be in trouble for doing nothing and /or for sending his sons into the melee. Mr. Miu seemed to be the most credible of all those who took the stand. Deep down, they all have to feel some level of guilt for what happened that day. Things escalated, the man being bullied had a knife and used it, to everyone's complete surprise. Seriously wondering how far it would have gone if the knife hadn't been introduced. If I am a juror, I feel terrible for Isaac's mother, but I would have to return with a verdict of not guilty. There was no proof of intent. No one can read the defendant's mind. He used no words. The mob used too many words.
Agree. If she thought those boys were in danger. She should have immediately called 911 or the river authorities. Playing a vigilante and acting like a cop caused ever thing to escalate.
@@NanetteTrainorAnd the kids shouldn't lie because they weren't the ones in trouble.
Although they should be.
Self defense
JaWon, Riley, Maddie, all ignited this MOB
The fact that Maddie Cohen refused to have her testimony in court recorded by video or audio speak volumes about how she runs her life. She is a coward, selfish and feels entitled. Everyone makes mistakes, but good human beings know their not perfect, learn from the past and work to better themselves.
@@KevlarSammy she is a COWARD, yes
The state is wrong
Yes, Minnesota gets everything wrong..... just look at Minneapolis
Not Guilty ✔️
"Strong closing arguments"? Are you serious?? ... Jurors falling asleep during prosecution's cross for a reason
All the TEENS had to do was WALK AWAY. The teens need to be charged with crimes
The adult had higher duty, as the adult, to walk away.
He approached them….use common sense.
The teens yelled at him, yes! But had a knife that they didn’t know about. Even the kids that were stabbed said they thought he punched them in the stomach. They didn’t realize they had gotten stabbed or, yes, I’m sure they would have screened and did their best to get away
The adult approached them, no it was HIS responsibility to walk away, instead he killed 1 and stabbed 4 others. Stabbing 5 people in response to being called a chimo is NOT self defense. He had plenty of time to leave, he had plenty of time to think about how to get out of the situation, instead he killed a kid.
I agree with Ari31z3PP a 100%. He was the only person and adult with a knife or weapon of any kind. Watch how he uses it
He tried to walk away but the punks wouldnt let him.
You clearly haven't seen this from the start, he harassed them on the tubes from out of nowhere, then he walked away, then he came back again, this time he had the knife on him, so you are completely wrong, he had every opportunity to leave yet stayed and continued the argument. On top of that, he has the knife in his hand BEFORE he is even pushed in the water, then after all the stabbings tries to get rid of it, sorry, but this guy is going away for a long time.
@@geralddonnely9844 FALSE.
The desperate prosecutor looked like he was trying to chew his hand off when the defense was cross-examining his so-called victims.
What a waste of money.
Not guilty
Kids learned don't gang up and assault someone.
Ole Shumann learned their is no reset button.
The prosecutor was pure trash. A bunch of drunken entitled teens who ganged up on Nic, terrorized and physically assaulted him not to mention bringing other people into the fight by falsely accusing Nic of being a child predator. The behavior exhibited by these teens is absolutely APPALLING AND DISGUSTING!!!!!! UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR IN ANY SITUATION!!!!
The parents of these kids should feel ashamed of themselves because they failed as parents. Their kids have absolutely no ability to exhibit compassion towards another human being.
As someone who has experienced being physically assaulted by a group of people as a teen, it is terrifying. I wish I had a weapon to protect myself. Nic Miu was terrified. For the prosecution to say he was angry is ridiculous. There is no evidence of anger. I would say that the prosecution should stick to the truth but they haven't told the truth the entire trial. They stated that Nic should've walked away but what they don't recognize is that the teens were in the wrong from the jump. Not one of those teens have taken responsibility for all the crimes they committed before Nic actually defended himself with his knife.
The fact that nobody told the cops about Nic looking for "little girls" YET they use this fictitious statement as a justification for their horrendous behavior. The prosecutor overlooks all of the crimes committed by the teens and just makes the flippant comment that Nic could've just "walked away". That was not the case.
Everyone is focusing on Nic's lies but what about all the lies told by the drunken teens who continued filming the bullying and physical assault of someone who had done nothing wrong.
I respect the defense attorney for stating the obvious: how many people assaulted Nic before Nic finally took action to defend himself.
Completely justified but he effed up when he talked and lied to the cops.
Yup. Everyone here is in the wrong. People need to be held accountable. I'm talking about the young adults.
@@sneakyviewing4391 no
It's amazing to witness the national media machine hard at work trying to convict an innocent man.
It was the jury that decided his fate, not the media, and he's going to prison, so he's not innocent. I hope you get over it.
@@hearmenow909 Get over what? What's there to get over? I shared my opinion. Simple. Unless you, on the other hand, feel that people should believe the same thing as you? Surely not.
says no one ever 🤣
@@beethao9380 Exhibit A
He tried to walk away they surrounded him. You have a right to defend yourself... let me add he was hit in the throat and taken down to the ground one of the people he stabbed held him down
Also just adding. I'm from Wisconsin and I work in Europe. I have since my early 20's and in Europe because they don't have gun culture like we do they fight a lot more. Any large city in Europe on a weekend night you will see far more males whether they are 18 or 48 talking and shoving contesting with each other. It's also a lot more common for someone to use a knife there to defend themselves. Granted this defendant grew up in Romania a nation where I've spent quite a bit of time personally, it makes sense to me he pulled a knife like he did. If it was someone who grew up here, they would have reached for their gun if they had it. Shooting someone is another story but if they were on their back in the water like that they would have drawn it easily. I think people who think he's so bad for stabbing a kid in the heart is just ridiculous. Nobody in that position has the time to think they're going for the heart. They're thinking get the knife in them faster than they can do whatever they will do to me. A 17 year old male is a child but a 17 year old male has been no stranger to the wars of history and the wars of today. A 17 year old male can be a scary match for a 40+ male depending on various things. People who say a child a single child let alone a group of over 10 isn't a threat is completely stupid and not using their heads. 40 year old men don't play sports like 17 tear old males and Mr. Miu has had bypass surgery so simply elevating his heart rate could be enough to kill him, especially standing in water where he could just as easily drown if he loses his strength.
@@sneakyviewing4391 lmao there was no risk of drowning stfu
😂
This man was not scared he snapped!
So none of the 13 other people there snapped? Madison crossing the river to approach him wasn't calculated? How would you ever actually make that argument?
Another clueless couch 🛋 coach clown comment.....
Oh my god, you can tell that he went there to cause problems when the kids asked him to leave he should have left, he’s a stupid arrogant Frenchman and had no justification to stab those teens!
Terrified people do snap.
@@kcwestern Damn the defence couldn't say that
Madison and her two brothers escalated the entire incident.
And the friend videotaping the entire thing has his friends blood on his hands!
Yeah there needs to be an investigation regarding purjury.
Those were Madison's brothers ? I thought they were friends .
@@lisabeaver2919 It's probably complicated!
you have proof?
13 drunk teenagers surrounding a lone man after quadruple heart bypass surgery, you have to ask, what would your state of mind be?
why was he at the river then? obviously to frail to be where he was, Miu approached those teens and decided to hurt them the second they called him names like Chimo and pedophile. Miu put himself in the middle of those teens instead of going back to his group, this shows intention, he waited until they got physical and then stabbed them.
how can "teenagers" get drunk? You must be 21.
@@stevenharper7118
I have terminal cancer. I go wherever I want to go.
Have you been watching the trial?
It's disturbing that you use speculation and conjecture.
@@frankcastle7036
Exactly, unfortunately one of the victims had a blood alcohol content of .290(?).
@@joeschlotthauer840my God!
Bet those animals won't harass people again
I am not sire about that. Most of them are still alive.
Bet Mui won't kill someone again.
@@sarahmurphy8030
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sure would if assaulted by 13 drunken idiots.
@@sarahmurphy8030 🤣 🤣 🤣. Go watch the testimony and get a clue.
@@JabroniDeluxe I watched all of it. I saw a bunch of kids lying and trying to cover for each other and about their legal trouble. I know from first hand experience, because I was the lucky one in my friend group growing up in Wisconsin. If you didn't get that you're naive.
The state is criminally negligent:
The state, and all the states, over the oast 60 years, employed people whose caseloads were 50% related to the drug they were going home to use for recreation - stress relief, a medical necessity.
They then waged war on the only competitor very well known to MELLOW the stressed, thus a valid recreational, thus medicinal substance - cannabis.
The state has been criminally negligent for 60 years by ensuring alcohol related violent crime - 100s of millions, including the sexual abuse of 10s of millions of children - would continue as we see here.
Had the state acted wisely and within the bounds of the Constitution, cannabis would have been made the state's and the nation's recreational drug of choice as a matter of public safety.
Instead, they chose the one known for promoting violence and sexual perversion - alcohol.
Screw the states.
Lol you got a lot of repressed emotions I'm feeling. Wisconsin bar and tavern league needs to start making cannibeer. They're so missing out on their own market potential on that one.
@@sneakyviewing4391 Repressed emotions? I am releasing everything I got. I am 57, have seen countless acts of alcohol related violence, have been victimized by such since childhood, then persecuted by a alcoholic and codependent legal system that profited by having 50% of their caseloads that kept them employed involving their own drug of choice for recreation - alcohol.
And: he probably would have left if they hadn’t taken his snorkel and thrown it. Did he use excessive force? Yes. Was he provoked? Yes. Did all the prosecution’s witnesses lie? Yes. Was he attacked? Yes. Should perjury charges be brought against many? Yes. Is it 1st degree murder? Hell no.
There's video of him dropping the snorkel and mask. If you paid attention to the trial, the prosecution straight up proved that while Miu was on the stand, and the defense had no way to deny it so they didn't even object.
He had a weapon he was at least reckless with it so he needs to stay in jail away from the public
How cheap is a snorkel
You said it all 👍
@@AFloridaSon my recollection he had the snorkel contraption in his mouth NOT WEARING IT but in his mouth as he ran towards the tubers then it fell out...he did look down for it used his hands to search for it but the tunes were heading to him.....
Notice I said run he was running as best as a person could in mid calf high moving water....if you remember he made a big deal about his sandals that were in bad repair hence bringing the knife to Mc Gyver them together...he never had a chance to re weave them so he lied that they were a tripping factor...
Stop Senior Abuse
Exactly, Old Joe and everyone over 70 should of been dismissed
This smug woman is all for the state. Despicable.
Yeah this interviewer sucks. I don't like listening to her. Then again I work in archaeology and I can't stand listening to TV archaeologists explain things.
Lmfao. The Prosecution did nothing but speculate and play to the juror's emotions instead of meeting the burden of proof needed to prosecute. They're still banking on the jury buying the story that a 300 lb Miu "hit a 115 lb girl"... without her dropping her drink or phone, let alone getting knocked down in the river. Video evidence shows Miu being assaulted but conveniently misses these teens excuse for their moblike behavior and assault.
They are also banking on the public not knowing that a person who has had a bypass surgery doesn't even need to get beat up to lose his life. Simply getting chased down the river could have resulted in cardiac issues potentially death for him.
were you there were you there? you simply copy/paste what you saw online. that comment is seen often online. nice try though.
@@beethao9380 Sorry you don't like MY opinion, but it's mine. I don't really care if someone else copied and pasted it afterwards.
Strong closing? Was I listening to the wrong closing? Horrible, long, boring, inaccurate, etc., more like it.
It’s extremely hard to run or walk away in water.
Not Guilty
Yep he lied. Thank God some idiot videoed the event, it is his best defense, and was recorded "for the Graham" so it goes.
I mean, why would a prosecutor ask for an innocent man to be jailed for life!? I would understand it more if they were asking for a lesser charge, but these prosecutors are criminals
Agree, Everyone should fear being prosecuted by this douchebag!
He isn’t innocent. Did you even watch the video?
Major Diddy vibes! I bet you wanted to let Bill Cosby and R Kelly go too huh?
@@davidscott2904 yes. It was self defense not intentional murder. He didn't intend to kill anyone... therefore not guilty!
It's just the rules of the game, one side fights for one possibility, the other fights for another.
They should all be thankful he didn’t have a gun to defend himself with. 13:1 is bad and no doubt he was scared, particularly after getting punched, slapped, choked and pushed down into the river all whilst the pack of drunk idiots was screeching that he was a pedophile and predator and had ten seconds to leave. Who do these entitled drunk and stoned bullies think they are? They phucked around with the wrong guy and found out the hard way that sometimes the real world isn’t playing games. Had any of them been decent people they would have helped the old guy rather than do what they did. The pack of idiots should all be charged and Miu should be acquitted ASAP. This case is a defense attorney’s dream. Self defense 100%
Actually Miu is the one that “ phucked around” and found out .
The reason none of the kids were held accountable or anything is because... Nikolai came out charging them... They did nothing.... They were across the river and he had accused them of stealing his friend's phone and stealing his goggles which fell off his face... They didn't either...They didn't even know him and you can hear the kids going whoa whoa whoa and that's what started the whole thing...If you did not watch the whole trial don't even comment on here... Nikolai put his feet inside their inner tubes and held their tubes there so they could not go rafting down the river...the. he stood in front of all of them so they couldn't go past... He started it and that's when all hell broke loose.... He was there for one thing to cause a fight...He went back to his people got his knife and came back... My husband's retired military and law enforcement..He said he would have just walked away when they asked him too... Even Nikolai's friends said that they were afraid he was going over there because of the women the girls.... Watch him when he's on the stand just Nikolai the whole story is wrapped up in one.
Well at one point one of the teens hand their hands on his neck
Yeah that was Isaac
This is what I have been saying the whole time , the kids were out of line but why would you stab people .. he made 0 attempt to walk away and deescalate
Kids were out of line? The 2 women (Madison and Rhyley) repeatedly grabbed and pushed him. And, he was pushed down and punched by the boys. LOL, did you even watch the phone video?
The kids made no attempt to walk away. If you don't want to get stabbed then keep your hands to yourself. Nobody has an obligation to take a beating.
@@mikehanna1981 They didn't push or touch him with such force that would require stabbing them in self defense in order to protect your own life. Those girls where NOT a threat to his life.
Let it be known that @mikehanna1981 can’t fight girls with his bare hands
@@stevenharper7118They tried to drown him in the water. Watch the entire video.
Its quite obvious whose side the corporate press is on. They no likey self defense.
If I was in his shoes, maybe I would lie as well as I would be scared as hell to be thrown in jail for the rest of my life and getting all the blame. I am not convinced yet that it wasn't self defence. It's very disturbing to hear that the prosecution tries to paint another reality than what actually happened.
too bad so sad
This case shows how injustice our justice system really is.
Those “young people” escalated this with Big Daddy watching. They provoked a result they weren’t expecting. This whole situation is sad, but the boys’ behavior initiated this whole thing
His approach initiated this, he didn't have to get mad and approach them he could have walked away and never approached them, he chose to approach them when he realized their comments and waited for them to get physical, then he struck.
@@stevenharper7118 they didn’t let him answer and went nuts on him as if They were there to police the river.
@@stevenharper7118um no genius. Not sure why some of you fools think just cause someone approached them gives them the right to attack him. That's just dumb
@@stevenharper7118 You do realize walking up to a group of people is not a crime right? Whether it was to look for a phone or ask them about it or because he felt like walking in that direction at that moment so what? It doesn't effect self defense whatsoever. He had no obligation to walk away nor could he after being surrounded, and they had no right to surround and harass him. Then they decided to get physical, in the middle of a river which makes just getting knocked to the ground potentially fatal. You don't seem like you even understand the questions the jury is being asked to decide.
Why weren't they expecting stabbings? Because it's an absurd course of action?
Teens messed around and found out. Shame on those kids
The prosecutor keeps saying the one guy "tried to break it up" ... yet the video clearly shows him pushing Mui down while his buddy is hitting him.
Seriously we need a purjury investigation here.
@@sneakyviewing4391 nah. its fine.
The dudes not guilty
To all idiots, judges, attorneys, pretendent "legal analist"... Those young people are guilty by being under the influence of alcohol, possessing alcohol under 21 years! Let's start with this if you are such a legal analist!
Exactly teens should have been charged for under age drinking and some sort of harassment
Being illegally under the influence doesn’t equal stabbing unarmed teens. Remember…. Sticks and stones?
2 vs 1 at most 😂 Those bullies found out
Self Defense! NOT Guilty!!
Are you kidding me? Walk away? He couldn’t walk away
He charged up to those kids, he absolutely could have turned around and went back to his group. But he didn't he chose to wait until those kids got physical after several minutes and chose to stab them.
@@stevenharper7118 He thought they had the phone he was looking for! He was smiling a lot of the time! He was confused, you can tell by looking at his face! Those kids knew what they were doing then and they know now. Can’t keep their stories straight and they’re lies! They started this! Then hollered at and intentionally lied to the adult group! He couldn’t walk away! They all bullied him! He was hit and pushed first! Self defense!
He lied over & over ( to his friends police & hide the knife ) not shouting self defence !!!! He could have showed the knife if he was scared & I'm sure they would have backed of :
@@catherinemccarthy4821Re showing the knife to make them back off -not a technique advised by the military apparently
The lies that the drunk young adults told! Miu was looking for a cell phone... let's not forget that he was just looking for a cell phone and was verbally and physically attacked. Sorry folks. He is not guilty.
says no one ever 🤣
totally innocent
People are divided 50/50 on this. He was greatly outnumbered.
More like 90-10 for Nick.
Nic's group had 10 people in it and they were watching from the other side of the river 100 feet, and Nic says he motioned for them to come over...so 10 to 13 to be correct. Nic HAD a group there. He was not all alone don't lie.
He wouldn't have been outnumbered if he had left them alone like they told them to.
An absolute disgrace. Not guilty.
Debbie Lang is so right about the prosecutor's flippant comments. Complete turn off being told something that simply is not true.
How can you walk away when you are getting pushed down. You can't prove that he murdered with intent beyond a reasonable doubt. These kids were jacka sses and based on some testimony it hasn't changed. They were the aggressor. Look at the facts. How do you gloss over the fact that they hit him and yelled out at him stating insane things to him. The prosecution overchanged and they are going to say not guilty. To me, it is a pretty simple case.
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they usually dont want high school drop outs as jurors
Actually, I was told at my “Concealed Carry Class”, for my gun, that having a knife or bear-spray is also a concealed weapon. I had no idea the knife in my purse was illegal without my concealed carry license.
I can't speak for where you live, and I'm not sure about Wisconsin, but we can legally carry a concealed knife as long as the blade is under 4".
😂 you don’t need a concealed carry for a knife smfh
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It is if the blade is 4" or more
@@bigal8986 not in Florida
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Big Snoog... I looked it up...
Florida: anything over 4" in Florida you need a CWP.
You are right that 4" is clean to carry
All he had to do was walk away? Why? Why does he had to walk away? He had every right to beat up those attackers? Mess them up bad.
Weird their going after the person not the knife or knife manufacturer
13 adults to 1 adult. They are adults by law and they found out. Who acts like they were ?
This is a legal analyst??
I’m confused
State came out swinging? Then the defense came back with sledge hammer and crushed them.
Sure, walk away when you're surrounded by hyenas between you and your group, and being punched. No. just no. State is reaching SO far with this, Punch to ms cohen? still not proven as far as I'm concerned. I wish he hadn't lied as much as he did though.
Maybe difficult not to lie when the 13 hyena's are gonna lie against 1- damned either way, as he was during the incident
Nicolae was furious...he snapped...intoxicated people have fought on the Apple River for 50 years...what if we all stabbed eachother?!☠️
So he was supposed to just accept that he was going to be beaten up? When your talking that many folks you certainly can’t be sure your going to be beaten up and not seriously injured or killed. That many people attacking me , the case is coming out or any other item I can use to protect myself.
Walk away !! From the start ( he we t back
Did the prosecution add lesser charges???
Yeah yesterday. Charges for the deceased now include in addition to the original first degree intentional homicide, second degree intentional and first and second degree reckless homicide. For the injured they added on second degree attempted homicide and first and second degree recklessly endangering safety.
They chose to ask the jury be instructed in a lesser incuded offense. If you look at the murder statutes all types of illegal killings are grouped, even manslaughter. It is not adding charge per se. It happens a lot.
Not guilty! Video proves it was self defense!
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Don’t talk to the police what did the state have without his statements, Even in duty to retreat state you only have to if perceive you can do it in complete safety.
Enough guilt on both sides.He was probably angry and scared. In a situation like this, a person goes into a fight or flight mode.
Yes, but the wise ones choose flight, and stay out of prison. He should have walked away like they told him to.
@@AFloridaSon Thanks for your opinion, but it's not mine
The reporter really wants a guilty verdict, but the lawyer he is interviewing doesn't see it that way.
Typical Twin Cities BS. It's not even about blue politics. I went to school in Madison there it's blue but legit. Twin Cities be like, make everyone who's normal the bad guy no matter what. Everyone else is a victim no matter what. In Wisconsin the only negative thing anyone really says about Minnesota is that you can't tell it like it is or you'll get the angry pitch fork wielding mob on you. I live in St. Paul now by the way. That's why I'm saying these things. Never lived a place with so many stupid laws. Like maybe Europe where I work in the summer months has pretty stupid laws sometimes but Minnesota is really in a league of its own. I live on Grand Avenue and have for the last 10 years. The police here just love encouraging J-walking and people just wandering around the middle of the street. It doesn't matter if it's the first snow and ice roads of the year some pudgie lady from Edina or Eden Prairie always gets the right of way on my street.
@@sneakyviewing4391also I hear the whole state shuts down for Ramadan
GUILTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not Guilty, the teenagers and 6 adults all drunk, should be on trial.
NO EXCUSE : GUILTY ⚖️
The right hand or left hand confusion can be explained with people who suffer from dyslexia. To assume that Madison and the other witness is lying because they were having problem’s deciphering what hand should have been debunked by the prosecution as a form of dyslexia.
Also it is possible to get smack in the face with glasses and not have any bruising or marks. For example I was smacked hard in the face where my glasses flew approximately 10 ft off my face and I did not have bruising or a mark because the glasses took the force. Not everyone bruises as easily as others. It depends on the direction of the smack and if it hits soft tissue areas. Look at Nic’s face no bruising on his face either and he was clearly smacked in the face for hitting the blonde woman. That’s not bullying that’s defending a woman against a man who took it upon himself to smack a person in the face.
It’s ridiculous for the defense to keep saying Nic was being attacked by 13 people. This was a tubing trip so yes there were many people around because the teens were calling for help. Nic made the first approach and the screaming and yelling can also be explained as nervousness on the teens part, they clearly were uncomfortable with a man running up on them, swirling his hand close to them and even underneath their tubes. Any one, of any age would feel that to be creepy and be upset and proceed to yell for him to leave them alone.
I never saw a person who was scared, what I witnessed from the tape was a man who was mad and embarrassed and lost his temper by plunging a knife deep into the victims to cause bodily injury and death. What Nic should have been concerned about was walking and running on rocks with shoes that were falling apart and causing him injury to his chest area, not about a cell phone that no one seemed concerned about about, and a mask that could have been found once the teen tubers passed by. A mask and his bruised ego was not worth a human life, but Nic felt it was and therefore I feel he is guilty of the murder of Issac and the attempted murder of the others who were stabbed, two others severely.
She is lying
Except most people with Dyslexia have a very considerate nature to others, and are tremendous empathizers apparently, which would have made her a better descalator than she turned out to be
Anderson gave strong closing? Wrong. It’s clearly self-defense and the DA should be ashamed to bring this to trial.
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Why did he stab so many people? It doesn’t even look like anyone punched him in the video. Why did he stab the 110 pound girl, & the guy in the jean shorts trying to break it up? Just because there’s a group of people doesn’t mean they’re all trying to attack him. I think he’ll be guilty of stabbing some of those kids.
You can pull your head out of your ass and watch video!!
Nic Miu is a bold-faced liar. And he engineered a story to justify his senseless behavior.
I watched most of this trial and the closing arguments and I say that this was self-defense.
You must deal with facts not emotions and the prosecutor failed on the facts.
Though I don't agree with his lying to law enforcement I completely understand why someone would automatically think to do this.
In today's world the real victim is prosecuted, and the criminal is rewarded.
Maddie Cohen acted like Satan.
Mr. News man. Try getting your facts correct….
Jahwan, Maddie are guilt of this violence. I’m glad they get to live with this the rest of their lives.
We should all call the governors office to get this overturned.
The boy doing the video should have called 911 to report a child predator if he was scared. None of his behavior and laughter shows someone who is fearful and concern for the welfare of others.
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Mistrial
I see anger by miu not fear
A LIE, he never punched that woman!! He has early Dementia or Alzheimer's: he has All the symptoms!! These PEOPLE agitated and provoked and "ATTACKING" that man!! IF THEY WOULD HAVE LEFT HIM ALONE ALL THIS HORRIBLE STUFF WOULD OF NEVER HAPPENED!!
Wow... now he has Alzheimer's. Good thing this trial is almost over because his fan club keeps making him sicker and sicker. Another week and he would have been a bedridden paraplegic.
An innocent man has been in jail for 2 years.
Yeah there's a bunch but not this guy
Guilty guilty guilty
This Guy must be a Rainbow Liberal!
Keep this man free
free from society 😂
Paul Blume......FFFFFFFOOOOO0XXXX NINE!!!! 🤣😂👍😎
Not a clean cut case either way but the prosecutor is in way over his head. Did not seem competent to be in charge of this case. May be legally competent but his court presence is underwhelming and may aid Mui getting off easier then could have otherwise.
They are all guilty. And deep down, I think they know it. All of them lying during interrogation, lying on the stand. The defendant has already served his time, which I am not convinced he deserved. Release him. Put the rest in jail for two years please, and call it even. RIP Isaac. Condolences to his mother and family.
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Who wouldn't lie..?? .the poor guy's head was spinning ...this will simply rest on the social and moral beliefs of the jury....i would hold out .t
...they didn't prove beyond REASONABLE DOUBT .. AND his SPECIFIC INTENT defense should stress this..