Agreed on the price mate I only adjust price's before the season starts. I try not to drop customers but if they are rude or make it absolute murder on every visit, they do get let go.
Hi Adam I only let bad players go or those who never clear the poo I’ve been to places and the dog poo has got worse so much so that I’d end up having to blow for 20 mins before I could mow a small lawn I got fed up as it was costing me time and therefore money Otherwise I’d never get rid mid season if I can help it but flipping it have you had any get rid of you without giving you a second thought customers can be ruthless and remember to them were just a number I’ve been loyal to clients before then boom out the blue they’ve found some cheaper Do what’s best for you I’ve been burnt from being to nice and to loyal these clients are not our friends Great video good topic mate
Hi mate, 100% most won't care as you say but the way I see it, it's my reputation so I'd rather not mess people around or change the price after a few visits as they are more likely to tell people. Like you, I'll only really get rid of late payers or the "poo gardens" or obviously if they end up being a dick or whatever haha. So yeah if I messed up the price a bit, I'm talking like 5/10 pound max realistically I'll just suck it up. Bigger one offs I've gone back to them and acknowledged I've messed up on the price and given them a new one when it's been way out. Hope you're keeping well mate. Don't know where this year has gone 😲
@@TheGreyGardener1990 I’m good I’m having work with man flu at the mo there’s so nasty stuff going around I’ll catch up with you on WhatsApp soon mate I can’t wait for the weekend to chill
@THETATTOOGARDENER83 ah never hope you get better soon. I take echinacea over the winter months. Supposed to boost your immune system so could be worth a go
we do the same, never leave a job mid season, never increase prices, the only thing we have done which is in extreme circumstances, we had to let someone go because they were constantly paying us late sometimes owing above 1k way too many times.
100% agree, if ive priced it wrong then thats my problem, thats why I aim for a decent margin so my other jobs would make up for it. Only a handful of times I've dropped a customer mid season and that was either down to consistently late payments or locked gates... Im a very fair person and will give multiple chances but if its a consistent thing then sorry they've got to go
I also think if you feel you’ve under priced it’s a long season thinking about it and I’ve been there and you hang on till winter to up it but you end up begrudgingly not working any harder than you need to and not wanting to do the job so it’s better to be upfront so you feel valued if your worth it to them they l pay it if your not they l let you go and you got the answer you needed so never worry about upping mid season but I agree if you happy with the job and customer save increases for spring, I like you, send the msgs out jan/feb of increase then they have a little time but not too much to find someone else ☺️
We price “from-to” for example we give a price of £35 a visit to £40 and when asked why we tell them straight . £35 to come in strim, mow and blow and could be £40 if it’s been hissing it down prior and takes longer on mowing and clean up… 100% of our customers think that’s very acceptable. And we charge accordingly. That little extra on a longer cut makes all the difference. Dog doo customers ! We don’t take in… simples… plenty gardens everywhere so build your rounds wisely 👍🏻
@@TheGreyGardener1990 the way to do it is compress your rounds so less travel more production and neighbours become your (flyers) advertising(word of mouth) and also do extras like throw down the odd bit of herbicide which is paid for within your price anyways. Keep it up bud 👍🏻
Hi mate, I'm thinking of getting a van for my gardening, were do you get rid of the customers garden waste?? Can I use a local domestic disposal site? Using my van..
I did get rid of one garden mid season this summer, but I said I would continue until they found another gardener which I think is fair. It was a case of the customer always interfering and wanting me to stay longer than I was able, I already wasn't looking forward to each visit and then the customer one day was just unbearable, at which point I suggested she looked for someone else. Fortunately she found someone about 4 weeks later and I was able to stop visiting.
Can I ask you all if you've ever had trouble from Diesel engines? I've heard doing a lot of small stop/start journeys causes a lot of problems with the particulate-filter clogging up? As gardeners, we do a lot of small journeys.
I've heard that too, touch wood no so far. Give it a long flog down the motorway every so often to get it all nice and hot. This should get rid of the build up
Am only just starting out and p/t and had that very issue on my 2015 diesel Corsavan! A good blast up A road at over 2000rpm(3rd gear/4th) for 5 mins Minimum, it needs to be. It sorted it out and been ok since, and hopefully continues to be.
I Agree ✅ 100% nice seeing you Mate. One question for you , all my spud's are really small this year, was it my fault ? Keep up the good work Thumbs 👍 Mr Cheese
what do you charge per hour, as i have had my first season and i have around 30 customers, i have being charging £20.00 per hour, or if its a one off job i charge per job. keep the vids coming enjoy watching them 😀
8hr Basic day gardening. 30 mins between jobs 30 mins waste disposal 15 mins clean tools and maintenance 15 mins paperwork, time sheets and billing 2 x 15min breaks. 30ins for lunch but don't include this as part of the day or the first and last commute time. Leaves 6 hours on site billable. @ £20hr gives you £120 Set aside 8% for holiday pay Set aside 8% for sickness/bad weather/machine failure/van problems f**ked back etc. Set aside 24% for overheads. Van payments and insurance, public liability insurance, waste carriers licence, waste charges, fuel for van fuel for machines, plus put aside for new equipment and spare parts also PPE. So £120 minus 40% gives you about £72 £72 ÷ 8 = £9 = less than minimum wage. Depressing If you are going to charge by the hr you need to get it to at least £25 but aim for £30. If this Is your first season then you will get more efficient the more times you visit a garden try to get what you do in an hour down to 45 mins but keep the charge the same and move towards charging per job. Obviously the other option is to do 10+ hour days and work weekends we have all been there at some point. 😊 Hope this helps and good luck
For info how I work out my charges for gardening. £5 plus £5 for every 15 minutes i think the job may take. Small garden 15 minutes = £10 (that is my minimum charge). Up to 30 minutes = £15 Up to 45 minutes = £20 And so on. Ideal garden is 30 to 45 min type where you charge £20 but get efficient at doing it and get it down to 40 mins then get all your gardens close and cut down travel time. If you can do 10 gardens like this In a day you are doing all right. If you can do this 5 days before week you may even earn £15/hr (after set asides and overheads) almost on par with junior doctor 😂 ... if you don't include the possibility of quadrupling your wages over you working life and massive pension pot that will be so massive that towards the end of your working life you have tax penalties cos you just can't jam any more in there 😢
Who carry’s on in a job if they don’t like it! You might not be putting in 100% in so sorry don’t agree if you need out give two weeks notice then go! Also I will increase anytime unless you have a binding contract, stick it up or go bust your choice
@@TheGreyGardener1990 what word? Sounds like you need to make it clearer from the outset trust me there are a handful of customers who would help you if you got in a spot, but the rest wouldn’t give a fook about you and drop you like a stone
I agree definitely most wouldn't care, I just wouldn't want to mess people around once I've agreed to do their garden for a particular price that's all.
I disagree with price if it’s not enough, you are being fair to put it up it’s your business, if you maybe give 4 weeks notice of price increase that’s v fair
If you price up a job and charge too little for a regualr two weekly, for the rest of fhe season you're losing money. If you wait til next season ans increase it, there's going to be a double increase. One increase to make it the correct price, then another increase for inflation. Good way to annoy and maybe lose a customer. Much better to say to the customer that it's more work than you first thought and you underpriced it. If rhey dont want to carry on, great, you won't need to make 15 more visits losing money.
If we talking about a regular job there's only so much you can undercharge though surely? Suck it up and crack on its not the customers fault you've messed up.
Agreed on the price mate I only adjust price's before the season starts. I try not to drop customers but if they are rude or make it absolute murder on every visit, they do get let go.
Hello, have you ever considered using the Henchman lifting harness? Its ment to take most of the hard work out of it
Hi Adam I only let bad players go or those who never clear the poo
I’ve been to places and the dog poo has got worse so much so that I’d end up having to blow for 20 mins before I could mow a small lawn I got fed up as it was costing me time and therefore money
Otherwise I’d never get rid mid season if I can help it but flipping it have you had any get rid of you without giving you a second thought customers can be ruthless and remember to them were just a number
I’ve been loyal to clients before then boom out the blue they’ve found some cheaper
Do what’s best for you I’ve been burnt from being to nice and to loyal these clients are not our friends
Great video good topic mate
Hi mate, 100% most won't care as you say but the way I see it, it's my reputation so I'd rather not mess people around or change the price after a few visits as they are more likely to tell people. Like you, I'll only really get rid of late payers or the "poo gardens" or obviously if they end up being a dick or whatever haha.
So yeah if I messed up the price a bit, I'm talking like 5/10 pound max realistically I'll just suck it up. Bigger one offs I've gone back to them and acknowledged I've messed up on the price and given them a new one when it's been way out.
Hope you're keeping well mate. Don't know where this year has gone 😲
@@TheGreyGardener1990 I’m good I’m having work with man flu at the mo there’s so nasty stuff going around
I’ll catch up with you on WhatsApp soon mate I can’t wait for the weekend to chill
@THETATTOOGARDENER83 ah never hope you get better soon. I take echinacea over the winter months. Supposed to boost your immune system so could be worth a go
Not a big fan of dog poo on lawns. Not so bad if it’s a big garden, but there is not much excuse for it being there on a small garden.
@@starman1969 completely agree I’ve walked away from so many small ones it’s a lack of respect for us as gardeners
Agreed on those mate 👍
we do the same, never leave a job mid season, never increase prices, the only thing we have done which is in extreme circumstances, we had to let someone go because they were constantly paying us late sometimes owing above 1k way too many times.
they owed you over £1000?
@@Rose_19911 yes
100% agree, if ive priced it wrong then thats my problem, thats why I aim for a decent margin so my other jobs would make up for it.
Only a handful of times I've dropped a customer mid season and that was either down to consistently late payments or locked gates... Im a very fair person and will give multiple chances but if its a consistent thing then sorry they've got to go
I also think if you feel you’ve under priced it’s a long season thinking about it and I’ve been there and you hang on till winter to up it but you end up begrudgingly not working any harder than you need to and not wanting to do the job so it’s better to be upfront so you feel valued if your worth it to them they l pay it if your not they l let you go and you got the answer you needed so never worry about upping mid season but I agree if you happy with the job and customer save increases for spring, I like you, send the msgs out jan/feb of increase then they have a little time but not too much to find someone else ☺️
Yeah, fair comment mate absolutely. Thanks for watching 👍
Couldn't agree more. Spot on 👍
We price “from-to” for example we give a price of £35 a visit to £40 and when asked why we tell them straight . £35 to come in strim, mow and blow and could be £40 if it’s been hissing it down prior and takes longer on mowing and clean up… 100% of our customers think that’s very acceptable. And we charge accordingly. That little extra on a longer cut makes all the difference. Dog doo customers ! We don’t take in… simples… plenty gardens everywhere so build your rounds wisely 👍🏻
@@Cutting-Edge interesting mate, good way of doing it 👍
I’ve got rid of more jobs than I can think of. The goal is to make £1 a minute every day at the very least. Work smart 👍🏻
@Cutting-Edge yeah that's what I aim for too roughly speaking.
@@TheGreyGardener1990 the way to do it is compress your rounds so less travel more production and neighbours become your (flyers) advertising(word of mouth) and also do extras like throw down the odd bit of herbicide which is paid for within your price anyways. Keep it up bud 👍🏻
Nice BO patches 😂
Hi mate, I'm thinking of getting a van for my gardening, were do you get rid of the customers garden waste?? Can I use a local domestic disposal site? Using my van..
I did get rid of one garden mid season this summer, but I said I would continue until they found another gardener which I think is fair. It was a case of the customer always interfering and wanting me to stay longer than I was able, I already wasn't looking forward to each visit and then the customer one day was just unbearable, at which point I suggested she looked for someone else. Fortunately she found someone about 4 weeks later and I was able to stop visiting.
Agree 100%
Can I ask you all if you've ever had trouble from Diesel engines? I've heard doing a lot of small stop/start journeys causes a lot of problems with the particulate-filter clogging up? As gardeners, we do a lot of small journeys.
I've heard that too, touch wood no so far. Give it a long flog down the motorway every so often to get it all nice and hot. This should get rid of the build up
Am only just starting out and p/t and had that very issue on my 2015 diesel Corsavan! A good blast up A road at over 2000rpm(3rd gear/4th) for 5 mins Minimum, it needs to be. It sorted it out and been ok since, and hopefully continues to be.
Focus the inner surprise c bag
I Agree ✅ 100% nice seeing you Mate. One question for you , all my spud's are really small this year, was it my fault ?
Keep up the good work Thumbs 👍
Mr Cheese
@StephenCheeseGardenServices potentially lack of water but who knows really, lots of variables so hard to narrow it down
I've dropped customers during the season only for late payments. I don't have the patience to chase people around for £.
Same here.
what do you charge per hour, as i have had my first season and i have around 30 customers, i have being charging £20.00 per hour, or if its a one off job i charge per job.
keep the vids coming enjoy watching them 😀
@user-gy8jr8ii3h I only ever charge by the job is it just limits earnings otherwise. Tough to change if you've started that way though
8hr Basic day gardening.
30 mins between jobs
30 mins waste disposal
15 mins clean tools and maintenance
15 mins paperwork, time sheets and billing
2 x 15min breaks.
30ins for lunch but don't include this as part of the day or the first and last commute time.
Leaves 6 hours on site billable.
@ £20hr gives you £120
Set aside 8% for holiday pay
Set aside 8% for sickness/bad weather/machine failure/van problems f**ked back etc.
Set aside 24% for overheads. Van payments and insurance, public liability insurance, waste carriers licence, waste charges, fuel for van fuel for machines, plus put aside for new equipment and spare parts also PPE.
So £120 minus 40% gives you about £72
£72 ÷ 8 = £9 = less than minimum wage. Depressing
If you are going to charge by the hr you need to get it to at least £25 but aim for £30.
If this Is your first season then you will get more efficient the more times you visit a garden try to get what you do in an hour down to 45 mins but keep the charge the same and move towards charging per job.
Obviously the other option is to do 10+ hour days and work weekends we have all been there at some point. 😊
Hope this helps and good luck
For info how I work out my charges for gardening.
£5 plus £5 for every 15 minutes i think the job may take.
Small garden 15 minutes = £10 (that is my minimum charge).
Up to 30 minutes = £15
Up to 45 minutes = £20
And so on.
Ideal garden is 30 to 45 min type where you charge £20 but get efficient at doing it and get it down to 40 mins then get all your gardens close and cut down travel time. If you can do 10 gardens like this In a day you are doing all right. If you can do this 5 days before week you may even earn £15/hr (after set asides and overheads) almost on par with junior doctor 😂
... if you don't include the possibility of quadrupling your wages over you working life and massive pension pot that will be so massive that towards the end of your working life you have tax penalties cos you just can't jam any more in there 😢
Ehh that took a turn. Long day 😂
Who carry’s on in a job if they don’t like it! You might not be putting in 100% in so sorry don’t agree if you need out give two weeks notice then go! Also I will increase anytime unless you have a binding contract, stick it up or go bust your choice
@treecutter1806 I just think you're going back on your word personally but it's each to their own isn't it and whatever works best for you mate
@@TheGreyGardener1990 what word? Sounds like you need to make it clearer from the outset trust me there are a handful of customers who would help you if you got in a spot, but the rest wouldn’t give a fook about you and drop you like a stone
I agree definitely most wouldn't care, I just wouldn't want to mess people around once I've agreed to do their garden for a particular price that's all.
I disagree with price if it’s not enough, you are being fair to put it up it’s your business, if you maybe give 4 weeks notice of price increase that’s v fair
If you price up a job and charge too little for a regualr two weekly, for the rest of fhe season you're losing money. If you wait til next season ans increase it, there's going to be a double increase. One increase to make it the correct price, then another increase for inflation. Good way to annoy and maybe lose a customer. Much better to say to the customer that it's more work than you first thought and you underpriced it. If rhey dont want to carry on, great, you won't need to make 15 more visits losing money.
If we talking about a regular job there's only so much you can undercharge though surely? Suck it up and crack on its not the customers fault you've messed up.
no i wouldn't do it especially a price increase mid season.if you've built your business by good reputation you'll want to preserve it i know i do .
@thegeordiefellwalker8878 yeah that's just it exactly mate
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