Switzerland tree is so offputting when playing as them or when playing against them, on ahistorical they usually get half of my Italian puppets for free its kinda revolting
Yup I saw him pull up the focus tree first minute into the video and I was confused, at this point I would’ve been totally okay with bitter using Road to 56 for certain countries. Because Austria not having a proper focus tree is downright fucking disgusting.
@@dantemcmillan6337 This game will be close to 10 years soon. The fact that austria, sweden with norway and (I think) whole south america does not have a unique focus true is like you said, downright fucking disgusting. You pay 20-30$ for a dlc, and all you get is focus tree up to 2-3 countries. And don't give me the "paradox can support hoi4 thanks to this" crap. It helps, but this amount of money for so little is no laughing matter. mods can give you better focus trees, and much, much more for free. Why can't just paradox contact them, and work with them? literally no reason to give money to paradox at this point, they are so anti consumer.
A thing you can do to avoid germany getting a lot of war score is disabling supply for your allies in supply map mode, which will make germans refuse to have divisions on the frontline
Aren't all defunct states by definition "failed" once they can't control their own territory? How was Austria-Hungary any more of a failed state than, for example; the German Empire (and then the German Reich), Russian Empire (and then the Soviet Union), Kingdom of Denmark-Norway (and then the United Kingdoms of Sweden and Norway), Roman Empire, Holy Roman Empire, the many forms of Spain over the years, the many French Republics/Empires, etc.? These all lasted for a long time until some revolution happened to where it couldn't continue existing and became some other form with different territory.
Same with Egelseer because Germany gets him as a general (a good one at that) and then you have this generic guy in the middle of unique german portraits sticking out like a sore thumb
@@Hilter420 I'm incredulous as to whether Germany would need another "rework," but they 100% need a "tune-up" like the Together For Victory countries got. More portraits, more flavour, maybe some minor improvements to a few focuses like Form the RKs so you could have more puppets like Bohemia-Moravia and the General Government.
Well for a fact if Austria gets fascist without getting Anchlussed, and Germany makes Reichkommissariat Niederlande, Seyss-Inquart will be in charge of both but will only have a portrait on the kommissariat.
Arthur Zes en een Kwart was Hitler’s man in the Netherlands, so it is strange that he has a generic portrait. Also Ernst Kaltenbrunner with generic photo, same as Rendulic I think.
Fun fact, Seys-Inquart was the governer of the occupied Netherlands in WW2. We called him "Zes en een kwart" or "Six and a Quarter" this joke was made because he walked really limp, almost like one of his legs were much larger then the other.
Pro tip: in case your troops are pinned by enemy, and you have an EMPTY enemy tile that you wanna take (expl: zagreb was empty, enemy was pinning you), you could do some cheese to circumvent the pinning, first pause the game, then fallback/retreat your troop into your own territory, once you have the retreat arrow shown, right click on the empty enemy tile you want to take, this will make your division 'retreat' into the enemy territory and voila it's yours
But wouldn't that make you not actually control the tile you've walked onto? I've had many instances of my troops standing on enemy territory after retreating onto it.
My guess is that after we get the Nordic countries we will get a germanic dlc with Belgium, Austria, improved Germany and maybe even Luxembourgish focus trees
they never exactly said that Austria wouldn't receive one in this one, so maybe since austria is a snowy mountain country, they'll give Austria a tree along with the nordics? idk.
i doubt Austria will get a tree. The right time to give Austria a focus tree was in Death or Dishonor or By Blood Alone. Same for Albania, who was skipped THREE times: Death or Dishonor (they're next to Yugoslavia), Battle for the Bosporus (they're next to Greece), and By Blood Alone (they're connected to Italy)
Nordic (apart from Finnish) is Germanic btw :) So is English... And Belgium is more Dutch and French than German. Only the tiny territory ceded to Belgium after WW1 is ethnically German. More Dutch people speak German as their native language than in Belgium... Germanic is a language family, German is a specific language. The areas we typically consider German are part of the High and Low German language groups (which does not include Belgium) And you forgot about Alsace-Lorraine (modern day Alsace-Moselle) in France, which is a majority High German area, and Trentino-Alto Adige (southern Tyrol) in Italy, also a majority High German area. Both of these areas are bigger (Just Trentino-Alto Adige in Italy has over a million people, compared to the 77,000 in Belgium) than the tiny part of Belgium that is majority German...
Me doing Austria for years 💀 I only have Waking the Tiger and Battle of the Bosporous sooo... no spy stuff or whatever etc. . I even managed to ally with Italy against them twice, holding the 2 tiles at the Mountain Range left and right, but it doesn't work! Italians are so bad somehow 😭 I would never start from Hungary. Doesn't fit
When I play Austria, I always use between two giants because it has a huge focus tree that has a bigger focus tree than any other country. It has basically any path that you can think of and it is extremely fun, but most are hard because of Germany
One thing you can do to prevent Germany from taking any land in the war against Yugoslavia is deny your allies access to your supply. This, I believe, will keep than from walking through your controlled territory, meaning they can't get into Yugoslavia. Unless of course they start some sort of naval invasion all the way from northern Germany all the way down into the Mediterranean. Or use paratroopers.
Fun Fact: Kurt Schuschnigg (Leader of Austria from 1934 to 1938) was also a fascist, with an similar symbol to the hakenkreuz, the Kruckenkreuz(Shown on the Flag when he flipped fascist). The dude actually shown as leader of the fascist party, Arthur Seis-inquart, was the leader of the austrian supporters of the ndsap, which basically wanted to be annexed by Hitler and Germany.
Actually the german civil war is something i always force when playing with UK, I land on Hamburg and then push a lil bit but I think it only happens in 1938 when you dont give the sudetenland
Soo about the ostrava thing it was owned by Germany at 24:14 wich is why the whole thing flipped to them. Also vichy France is based on if Germany gets Paris.(unless thats been changed.)
i dont know if bitter steel realized, but you can avoid germany getting war score by disabling allied supply on your supply hubs. the ai moves their troops away when this happens.
If you are an axis nation and need a navy, conquer Vichy because i think they inherit the french fleet, just don't forget to have some troops in Africa because they have some cores there
In the next update after Scandinavia, I want to see Austrian rework, where will be path to recreate Austrian Empire, Austro-Hungry and get secret path with one austrian painter
@@Schmiado he talks about a Hapsburg path for Austria and a hidden Hitler path in the same sentence. Which seems to imply he's talking about a Hitler Austria Hungary path. A nation that only existed due to the monarchy, which was one dynasty. My assumption is reasonable, so no, I'm not tripping. Perhaps you are?
There's a way to save yourself from Germany doing the Sudetenland focus. The Czechs can't control Prague. Well the state Prague is in, but you need Prague for that. This bypasses the focus for Germany. I don't know if this still works as I haven't touched Austria Hungary since BBA became the worst dlc.
Munich does not happen, Czechs fight for their country and Austrian mustachio gets assassinated. I think it is The Oster Conspiracy event and 33% chance of getting that ending. Historical focuses probably went to the toilet once Anschluss failed.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind if every Hoi youtuber ever played with Player Led Peace conferences installed. The Ai in the peace deals is such a pain in the ass and I think if the player had total control it'd just make for more enjoyable and less cheesy videos.
this is actually pretty easy, you just need to sway italy away from germany and you can then easly hold them off, before flipping to democratic and joining the allies. it's what i did
HI finally im the first comment my first time so tell me could you make a tutoriel for minor nations and for tank design vanilla hoi4 please all the other tutoriels are outdated it would be greatly appreciated my name is ALI probably your only subsucriber from algeria
It blows my mind that Switzerland got a tree but Austria has to live with the generic one while two other countries can get Habsburgs.
To be fair, they exist entirely to be eaten by Germany.
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@@drew17210 Thanks!
Switzerland tree is so offputting when playing as them or when playing against them, on ahistorical they usually get half of my Italian puppets for free its kinda revolting
@@ancaoraathasach it now has exactly 100 more
That moment when Poland and Hungary got their Habsburg paths before Austria
Yup I saw him pull up the focus tree first minute into the video and I was confused, at this point I would’ve been totally okay with bitter using Road to 56 for certain countries. Because Austria not having a proper focus tree is downright fucking disgusting.
True, but I appreciate a challenge
@@dantemcmillan6337
This game will be close to 10 years soon. The fact that austria, sweden with norway and (I think) whole south america does not have a unique focus true is like you said, downright fucking disgusting. You pay 20-30$ for a dlc, and all you get is focus tree up to 2-3 countries. And don't give me the "paradox can support hoi4 thanks to this" crap. It helps, but this amount of money for so little is no laughing matter. mods can give you better focus trees, and much, much more for free. Why can't just paradox contact them, and work with them? literally no reason to give money to paradox at this point, they are so anti consumer.
@@kniazjarema8587exactly this. This is why I never buy dlc full price and I would pirate them if I knew how
@@dantemcmillan6337 I agree, Switzerland and Ethiopia getting focus trees before Austria and Belgium is fucking horrendous
A thing you can do to avoid germany getting a lot of war score is disabling supply for your allies in supply map mode, which will make germans refuse to have divisions on the frontline
Won’t stop the Sudetenland thing though.
Austria explaining why it can’t proclaim the rebirth of Austria-Hungary because they lost a single city out of thousands:
"It... just doesn't feel right, you know?"
- Archduke BitterStahl von Habsburg, 1939
@@Barwasser”Nein, I just No Feel like It.”
Haha! That emotional rollercoaster of losing czech occupation and then getting it back, awesome!
Wanted to flip my desk at that point
@@Bitt3rSteelI love watching you suffer more than isp there
Austria-Hungary may have been a failed state, but it just looks nice on the map i dont know how to describe it. it just feels correct in the space
1-Yugoslavia is ugly
2-Romania is ugly
True
It was a failed state AT thé end or ww1. Before that it functioned.
Aren't all defunct states by definition "failed" once they can't control their own territory? How was Austria-Hungary any more of a failed state than, for example; the German Empire (and then the German Reich), Russian Empire (and then the Soviet Union), Kingdom of Denmark-Norway (and then the United Kingdoms of Sweden and Norway), Roman Empire, Holy Roman Empire, the many forms of Spain over the years, the many French Republics/Empires, etc.? These all lasted for a long time until some revolution happened to where it couldn't continue existing and became some other form with different territory.
@@KayJay01 yes, that was my meaning of it, i couldve worded it better in hindsight
Seyss-Inquart should 100% have a portrait in-game considering he's also one of the Reichskommissariat leaders.
Same with Egelseer because Germany gets him as a general (a good one at that) and then you have this generic guy in the middle of unique german portraits sticking out like a sore thumb
@@Hilter420 I'm incredulous as to whether Germany would need another "rework," but they 100% need a "tune-up" like the Together For Victory countries got. More portraits, more flavour, maybe some minor improvements to a few focuses like Form the RKs so you could have more puppets like Bohemia-Moravia and the General Government.
Well for a fact if Austria gets fascist without getting Anchlussed, and Germany makes Reichkommissariat Niederlande, Seyss-Inquart will be in charge of both but will only have a portrait on the kommissariat.
Arthur Zes en een Kwart was Hitler’s man in the Netherlands, so it is strange that he has a generic portrait. Also Ernst Kaltenbrunner with generic photo, same as Rendulic I think.
@@Hilter420 hes actually the character of the default guy
Fun fact, Seys-Inquart was the governer of the occupied Netherlands in WW2. We called him "Zes en een kwart" or "Six and a Quarter" this joke was made because he walked really limp, almost like one of his legs were much larger then the other.
austria:denies the anschluss
bad moustache guy:oh no anyway...*proceeds to invite to faction
Pro tip: in case your troops are pinned by enemy, and you have an EMPTY enemy tile that you wanna take (expl: zagreb was empty, enemy was pinning you), you could do some cheese to circumvent the pinning, first pause the game, then fallback/retreat your troop into your own territory, once you have the retreat arrow shown, right click on the empty enemy tile you want to take, this will make your division 'retreat' into the enemy territory and voila it's yours
But wouldn't that make you not actually control the tile you've walked onto? I've had many instances of my troops standing on enemy territory after retreating onto it.
@@theorange1729 That happens to me sometimes but if you unpause the game for a few hours the tile will swap to you
@@theorange1729 click and that same tile with that division and it will occupy it
My guess is that after we get the Nordic countries we will get a germanic dlc with Belgium, Austria, improved Germany and maybe even Luxembourgish focus trees
Luxemburgish? Lol Besides Austria should have been a part of the latest one
@@sebe2255 yeah but they didnt now did they?
they never exactly said that Austria wouldn't receive one in this one, so maybe since austria is a snowy mountain country, they'll give Austria a tree along with the nordics? idk.
i doubt Austria will get a tree. The right time to give Austria a focus tree was in Death or Dishonor or By Blood Alone.
Same for Albania, who was skipped THREE times: Death or Dishonor (they're next to Yugoslavia), Battle for the Bosporus (they're next to Greece), and By Blood Alone (they're connected to Italy)
Nordic (apart from Finnish) is Germanic btw :) So is English...
And Belgium is more Dutch and French than German. Only the tiny territory ceded to Belgium after WW1 is ethnically German. More Dutch people speak German as their native language than in Belgium...
Germanic is a language family, German is a specific language. The areas we typically consider German are part of the High and Low German language groups (which does not include Belgium)
And you forgot about Alsace-Lorraine (modern day Alsace-Moselle) in France, which is a majority High German area, and Trentino-Alto Adige (southern Tyrol) in Italy, also a majority High German area. Both of these areas are bigger (Just Trentino-Alto Adige in Italy has over a million people, compared to the 77,000 in Belgium) than the tiny part of Belgium that is majority German...
I struggle doing Austria-Hungary as Hungary, and this mf does this as Austria. You earned a like
Heh, I came up with the basic strategy and Bitt3rSteel improved upon it .
exactly what i was thinking the whole time i was watching the video xD
Me doing Austria for years 💀 I only have Waking the Tiger and Battle of the Bosporous sooo... no spy stuff or whatever etc. . I even managed to ally with Italy against them twice, holding the 2 tiles at the Mountain Range left and right, but it doesn't work! Italians are so bad somehow 😭
I would never start from Hungary. Doesn't fit
if you have discord i can help you with a dlc unlocker, since its so expensive i just cracked the dlcs@@MajinObama
this run is symbolic for every hoi4 achievment game im playing. Just some weird A.I. thing happening everytime screwing me over.
I would've recommended playing Austria with the rt56 focus
There’s also a mod named “Dreams of Austria” where you can remake the Austrian and Austro Hungarian Empires. ( The HRE too )
That would invalidate the whole point of the list. Which is to play the base game A to Z.
@@christoperwallace6197 but he played a mod with argentina
He stated in previous episodes that he could play with mods, and did so with Argentina.@@christoperwallace6197
I would suggest you a "austria redone" mod, literally the best austria in hoi 4 mods ever
I been waring ages for this but another great video Bitt3r 🎉good job 👍
Hope you enjoyed it!
I did . (Very good video)thanks for replying
we all love to see a bitt3rsteel upload ! would have enjoyed seeing a "survive against anschluss run" tho
i was hoping you gonna do austria in road to 56, but this is awesome video too
Maybe one day!
I love it when you show how to play minor nations with the generics
You actually ended that game in a prime position to be a scenario where someone could play any side of the war.
I would also think of one that includes France which is right after he got control of ostrava
If austria gets a focus tree I would love an option to form the holy roman empire in the tree
24:44 The amount of stress that you get playing hoi4 is sometimes bigger than the dopamine levels, its not worth it, but we keep playing.
When I play Austria, I always use between two giants because it has a huge focus tree that has a bigger focus tree than any other country. It has basically any path that you can think of and it is extremely fun, but most are hard because of Germany
Cant wait for the next episode with A for Alf Landon
Bittersteel never fails to fill me up with happiness
*A Good Austria-Hungary run never gets old.*
Austria has a generic tree!?
Wow... Paradox needs to get on that stat
Too much work
I like all of your vidios about Hearts of Iron 4, and I think it would be funny if you try a challenge to all the America as the Empire of Brazil 😂
One thing you can do to prevent Germany from taking any land in the war against Yugoslavia is deny your allies access to your supply. This, I believe, will keep than from walking through your controlled territory, meaning they can't get into Yugoslavia. Unless of course they start some sort of naval invasion all the way from northern Germany all the way down into the Mediterranean.
Or use paratroopers.
Fun Fact: Kurt Schuschnigg (Leader of Austria from 1934 to 1938) was also a fascist, with an similar symbol to the hakenkreuz, the Kruckenkreuz(Shown on the Flag when he flipped fascist). The dude actually shown as leader of the fascist party, Arthur Seis-inquart, was the leader of the austrian supporters of the ndsap, which basically wanted to be annexed by Hitler and Germany.
I came here to see if there was a way to hold Austria against Germany
This was better than what I wanted haha
You just gained a sub because of playing Austria in HOI4 ❤️
22:54 LETSGOOO its beautiful oh wait actually, that makes this a grindfest...
I think the latter part counts as you fixing your own disaster run
0:00 you can practically hear the suffering and we're still in As
Bro Austria is simply biggest bird
Once one of the great empires to now reduced to some mountains
2:38
"I need men, a lot more men"
-Bitt3rsteel
Actually the german civil war is something i always force when playing with UK, I land on Hamburg and then push a lil bit but I think it only happens in 1938 when you dont give the sudetenland
1 year later and göttedämmerung is gonna blow bitt3rsteel away
I was hoping for Austrian Australia but that was freking awesome, 10/10 video
They updated Austria-Hungary with a new focus tree in Great War redux
Soo about the ostrava thing it was owned by Germany at 24:14 wich is why the whole thing flipped to them.
Also vichy France is based on if Germany gets Paris.(unless thats been changed.)
Do you plan on playing any mods soon? ISP did A to Z base game, Stakui is doing Kaiserredux A to Z.
ISP: puts mods to have fun
Bittersteel: hold my bear
*proceeds to suffer*
22:53 it’s like the AI was trying to help you but accidentally made it worse
Today is a big day! Why? I subbed 🎉
Ngl sometimes I watched these videos just for the calming music.
I got here the moment notification appeared, let's go!
As a person who plays a aoc2 mod as austria i can confirm its pretty hard in every game to play as austria
Like I would guess some people wouldnt want these to be longer but damn, I would love if you could make some of these like an hour or two
I love how he pronounce droboja drobeze
You really should finish this campaign after the emotional roller-coaster that was the Czech disaster
at the begging i didnt think u'll even get close but... yea. congrats
Respect that you said Ljubljana correctly.
We got independence : yay
as an austrian puppet : aww
i dont know if bitter steel realized, but you can avoid germany getting war score by disabling allied supply on your supply hubs. the ai moves their troops away when this happens.
28:57 if I am not mistaken to trigger the event of the creation of Vichy France, it's necessary that Germany controls only the province of Paris
If you are an axis nation and need a navy, conquer Vichy because i think they inherit the french fleet, just don't forget to have some troops in Africa because they have some cores there
New Bittersteel video, Best Saturday ever!!!
I really hope they give Austria some love after the arms against Tyranny dlc
25:09 Germany had the city itself, the only VP out of most of the VPs needed to control a State. Petty I know, but that's what happened.
9:42 damn you almost paradroped on me
Thank you Bitt3r
And the goat is back
"Artillery is the lifeblood of the army."
Napoleon probably.
try make the PlanZ with ONLY historical ships, whitout taking navy of other nations
There shall be an attempt!
In the next update after Scandinavia, I want to see Austrian rework, where will be path to recreate Austrian Empire, Austro-Hungry and get secret path with one austrian painter
He's not a Hapsburg, so it would make no sense. Plus, as is he never actually goes into exile and always dies. So it's not like we'd ever see it.
@@christoperwallace6197He never said Hitler was a Habsburger, you trippn?
@@Schmiado he talks about a Hapsburg path for Austria and a hidden Hitler path in the same sentence. Which seems to imply he's talking about a Hitler Austria Hungary path. A nation that only existed due to the monarchy, which was one dynasty.
My assumption is reasonable, so no, I'm not tripping. Perhaps you are?
@@christoperwallace6197 no bro, he meant that hitler shit as a different path
@@christoperwallace6197 Man use your brain once and think. Honestly
I see the paradrop counts is because it counts as a move action and not an attack order from the mikitary access country
It is so sad that you only have 160k subs, you deserve as many as ISP 👍
Maybe one day!
@@Bitt3rSteel hey, atleast all of reddit knows you as the guy to send your disaster saves to!
when legit Austrian focus tree?
i hope Austria gets a focus tree!
Merci!
Sure they’ll give the Baltics, Poland, Hungary and Switzerland a focus tree but none for Austria.
We’re all basic riflemen for the Bitt3rsteel army.
the humble rifleman is the backbone of any army.
There's a way to save yourself from Germany doing the Sudetenland focus. The Czechs can't control Prague. Well the state Prague is in, but you need Prague for that. This bypasses the focus for Germany.
I don't know if this still works as I haven't touched Austria Hungary since BBA became the worst dlc.
23:51 I assume it's weird mechanics still, but actually no, Germany controls Ostrava here, though it is your unit in the tile.
i just took myself the world as the mustache man for the first time and I find it ironic because I just didn't start shit with the Soviets.
Ah “I need more men”
-Bitt3rSteel
Nice job. Unfortunately you couldn't conquer Bucovina for more sexy historical borders!
Wait I thought of an idea how about you do world conquest for where you left out on every other HOI4 game so you can basically world conquest everyone
How did Germany end up in a civil war?
Munich does not happen, Czechs fight for their country and Austrian mustachio gets assassinated. I think it is The Oster Conspiracy event and 33% chance of getting that ending. Historical focuses probably went to the toilet once Anschluss failed.
@@tokul76 thanks!
I think they didnt press the war against the checz when they where denied.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind if every Hoi youtuber ever played with Player Led Peace conferences installed. The Ai in the peace deals is such a pain in the ass and I think if the player had total control it'd just make for more enjoyable and less cheesy videos.
APPROVE THE PAINTERRR
You earned yourself a subscription
Even tho it might not be the best way, I would rush down to nationalism, and the do industry to flip faster.
First from Romania!
Great Video! (haven't watched it yet lol)
13th
this is actually pretty easy, you just need to sway italy away from germany and you can then easly hold them off, before flipping to democratic and joining the allies. it's what i did
HI finally im the first comment my first time so tell me could you make a tutoriel for minor nations and for tank design vanilla hoi4 please all the other tutoriels are outdated it would be greatly appreciated
my name is ALI probably your only subsucriber from algeria
loving the series
Could you play Austria-Hungary in The Great War Redux Again? The whole focus tree got remade in the latest update
Try austria in rt56, they get a pretty big focus tree with a whole separate tree dedicated to the Habsburgs
(and you can form the HRE)
Road to 56 has a somewhat good (at least better) than hungary a focus tree for austria.
You used commands to trigger that german civil war
he didn't have control of Ostrava btw :P
Did a historical run with my friend I was Germany and it was Austria hungry under me with Czechoslovakia in it too and I almost lost a war to them
Will you ever do disaster saves for mods? I have a disaster save from Equestria at War...
Hungary be like: Haha I'm in danger!
23:00 希特勒 是靠著奧地利的併吞，獲得國內支持來繼續他的戰爭宏願
但是沒有 奧地利的併吞，同一時間又沒有獲得蘇台德高地，其實德國在二戰前的實力遠遠不如英法兩國
於是戰爭被迫提前開打，希特勒的支持率大幅下降導致直接內亂，可以預見的
然後軸心國 被打到稀巴爛
Didn't sit encircled by axis untill 45
6/10
Just FYI, what you got is not technically not Austria Hungary, as you still needed Tyrol from Italy