One of the best bits of advice that I got to stop shanking and start making good solid contact was to just remind myself that it's not that difficult. Of course there are physical fundamentals to it, but once you get the feeling ingrained, that little reminder helps to keep me from "wandering" out of my swing and overthinking things. Yes I do still hit bad shots but reminding myself that I actually know what I'm doing, and that it's really not that hard - really helps me to stay fairly consistent.
Great vid Pete, I do really struggle with leaning back when hitting irons, as though I think I’m helping to scoop the ball rather than letting the club do the work. Those markers to check for, straight arms to line of club etc will help.
ive done this drill.. always on the quest for better ball striking but no one ever talks about the wrist angles ive learned especially the lead wrist at impact!
Awesome drill Peter, thank you. I have another problem where I tend to overshoot the ball. Like you mentioned that make sure that your chest is over the ball at the time of impact. I tend to overshoot this point and end up way ahead of the ball. Would appreciate if you could give a drill to stop that as well. Thank you.
I found out something with my game yesterday. Especially with irons. I stopped thinking about ball position swing almost everything except setting up. But it worked throughout the bag shot my yearly best 70 but I've only played 8 times this year
I setup with the club and my swing thought was where do I need to get the ball where I can get down into the ball not have the random 1 or 2 topped shots that make me shoot a 77-80. I simply set the club face looked down my aim line got my left hand grip took my stance looked down target set my feet for shot I was wanting to play fade or draw put my right hand on gave a waggle shuffled in if I needed and didn't let myself fall back.
I know there's not a soul that's going to believe me but I hit a 6 iron 250 with roll out. Was 280 out center fairway I wanted to hit a 200 yard shot to leave a wedge was 30 yards off. Was wishing I hit the 4. Did it twice hit another about 235. Hit 2 drivers over 330. The club champion saw me playing said man you been letting that big dog eat today have you not. Would shot in the 60s but one of those drives I my chip shot I hit thin caught the front edge rolled off the back onto a bank but got up and down for par. The other drive I drove past the green into woods and had to take a drop. Bogeyed the hole 18 needed bogey to get 70 so after the drop I didn't stay aggressive I hit one to front edge and 2 putt.
"I'm striking it so well like that. I think maybe this is the secret." Did you know that's exactly how Tommy Fleetwood got his swing? His sawed off swing is not his real swing. He was doing a range session and loved the result so much he made it his all-the-time swing. Anyyyyhoooozle great video. Thx man
Taking a 4-6 inch beaver from in front of the ball is the bane of my game.. And when I try to correct it, I sometimes end up shanking or decapitating it.. Drives me cracked, I know it's my lack of technique but watching videos like this keeps me going 🤞👍
My coach has me do this. And yes no distance lost. It’s because the distance generation happens at impact. Not after impact. This drill just puts you in the good positions. I hate the drill because it goes against everything my brain tells me.
I've been doing this drill for a while and one thing I've noticed is in my full swing. It's hard to follow through. I still want to cut the swing off short
In the downswing I imagine I am holding an Olympic javelin in my hands and at the point in the downswing where shoulders swing back to parallel and trail arm tucks in become externally rotated to the max. it aimed down at the ball as if to spear it. That reminds me to keep my trail arm tightly tucked in and externally rotated while letting it straighten which is the key getting the hands to pull the swinging club head mass down the target line. What tucking in / external rotation of the trail arm does as the the trail arm straightens and side bend changes the angle of shoulders relative the angle of the pelvis (bending of spine ) vs tilting pelvis with leg action) is CHANGE THE FORCE VECTOR OF THE CLUB HEAD MASS. At the point the “spear” or butt of the club is pulling down at the ball the club head mass is on the same vector point 45° to the right of the target line. We need it changed to point at the target but the time it reaches the ball a fraction of a second later. Hogan figured out the secret for doing that - just control the position of the hands and let the Vardon grip “waggle” the club head mass around the hands which as it turns out when combined with side bending to change angle of shoulders and how lead arm which drags the club head forward as it is spinning changes its force vector to down the line in the critical few inches in front of the and behind the ball at impact-compression-release. If you observe what happens to the club face when you just waggle up and down with hands you will see the toe and face rotate 90° every quickly - that is EFFORTLESS acceleration of the club head that didn’t exist in the sweeping single plane swings golfers where forced to use with Hickory clubs to prevent bending and snapping the shaft. If you know the history of the game Byron Nelson is credited with inventing the modern two plane swing when first using a metal shaft driver buy realizing that by dropping the hands quickly at the top the shaft would bend and store all the kinetic energy the backswing creates in the club head mass, releasing it on the way down at the point the shaft goes from bowing back ) to springing forward ( as it whips around the hands. That forward bend in the shaft is why fitting shaft flex to swing speed is very important and why pros who swing incredibly fast and have bent forward shafts at impact WHICH INCREASES THE LOFT OF THE FACE need to lean the shaft forward to compensate even with XS steel shafts why many have switched to carbon shafts which flex less in their irons. Hogan and Nelson were rivals going back to when they were kids caddying at the same West Texas club. Hogan and everyone else on the tour adopted Nelson’s new ‘two plane’ swing style and Hogan figured out how to maximize its effectiveness via his tightly tucked, hyper externally rotated trail arm and side bend to trigger the whipping of the club around the hands with a snapping down waggle action just before impact pulling both hands into ulnar deviation to lock the face square with the grip, why he rolled the lead wrist the way he did. The fastest way to strike the irons is counter-intuitive and similar to what happens to an unbelted occupant in a head-on crash. In the golf swing the body mass is the car and the club head the occupant. Hogan’s tucked in elbows combined with his footwork, keeping back foot down, accelerates body mass in circle dragging the club head mass down behind also in a circle but then the back foot and lateral hip shift cause resistance - hitting the wall with body mass like a car crash - just as the club head is in a position to whip like a screaming banshie around the now slowed down hands. The mistake noobs make is not letting that ‘car crash’ action occur to trigger the whipping action and for that reason never develop pro level swing speed in their club heads. The irony is that it is entirely a passive process on in the backswing, with the key to success being getting the legs and torso twisted like an old style hemp rope at the top of the backswing which Hogan explains how to do in Five Lessons with illustrations to show which muscles need to be to be stretched to make it happen. The two words that ruined millions of recreational golf swings - including mine for 20 years - starting in the Nicklaus era were “JUST RELAX”. No part of Hogan’s legs and torso were relaxed at the top of his backswing, to the contrary everything was twisted like a torsion bar around the ten spikes of his squared back foot. The downswing just released the tension and was entirely passive. Hogan’s wide sweeping takeaway is what triggers the same ‘car crash’ effect when the club head can’t move backward any more. It reacts by whipping up and forward around the externally rotated trail hand bend back like a server holding a tray WITH LEVERAGE NOT STRENGTH. A Hogan style sweeping outside-hands takeaway generates so much force in the club head when it reacts and whips up it the force of the club head pulling on the hands is what pulls shoulders an additional 45° to square at the top EFFORTLESSLY - the club head does all the work if you swing it back to extension down the target line. As a NOOB I never experienced that because I thought I was supposed to swing the the club head AROUND the feet in a circle not throw it behind me like there was a wasp nest on the end of the club shaft. 😊
@@shawnkirkpatrick906 I write for anyone with the same intellectual interest about the golf swing I have. I try to go beyond the HOW TO - DO THIS IT WORKS, TRUST ME to explain why, with a lot of personal experimentation an journeyman understand of physics WHY it works on a cause and effect level.
Yeah but….. the first club you hit is either driver, 3 wood or hybrid. If you can’t keep those in play, striking your irons pure to NOT reach GIR is kinda pointless. How do YOU strike your driver or 3 wood pure and what drills do YOU use?
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Peter. This may be a dumb question. If hitting behind the ball is so ubiquitous. Why don't we address the ball with the iron in front of the ball instead of behind it?
Not about knowing your striking 6 inches behind. It’s about training your brain to change your swing without you having to consciously think about it. But you knew that. 🙄
Great drills I’ll give it a try. This is my biggest flaw. Only been working on it for 40 years or so
One of the best bits of advice that I got to stop shanking and start making good solid contact was to just remind myself that it's not that difficult. Of course there are physical fundamentals to it, but once you get the feeling ingrained, that little reminder helps to keep me from "wandering" out of my swing and overthinking things. Yes I do still hit bad shots but reminding myself that I actually know what I'm doing, and that it's really not that hard - really helps me to stay fairly consistent.
Great vid Pete, I do really struggle with leaning back when hitting irons, as though I think I’m helping to scoop the ball rather than letting the club do the work. Those markers to check for, straight arms to line of club etc will help.
I do lean back and get flicky at Times, so this drill will surely help me out. Cheers for all thé good videos and humour.
I just started getting lessons a week ago, and this was the first drill my instructor taught me.
Good to hear
ive done this drill.. always on the quest for better ball striking but no one ever talks about the wrist angles ive learned especially the lead wrist at impact!
Awesome drill Peter, thank you. I have another problem where I tend to overshoot the ball. Like you mentioned that make sure that your chest is over the ball at the time of impact. I tend to overshoot this point and end up way ahead of the ball. Would appreciate if you could give a drill to stop that as well. Thank you.
Towel drill as simple as it definitely works as used it in my first lesson recently and straight away got my striking ball first more consistently
This came at the right time, thank you for this blessing 🙏🏻
Love these drills thanks again
I found out something with my game yesterday. Especially with irons. I stopped thinking about ball position swing almost everything except setting up. But it worked throughout the bag shot my yearly best 70 but I've only played 8 times this year
I setup with the club and my swing thought was where do I need to get the ball where I can get down into the ball not have the random 1 or 2 topped shots that make me shoot a 77-80. I simply set the club face looked down my aim line got my left hand grip took my stance looked down target set my feet for shot I was wanting to play fade or draw put my right hand on gave a waggle shuffled in if I needed and didn't let myself fall back.
I know there's not a soul that's going to believe me but I hit a 6 iron 250 with roll out. Was 280 out center fairway I wanted to hit a 200 yard shot to leave a wedge was 30 yards off. Was wishing I hit the 4. Did it twice hit another about 235. Hit 2 drivers over 330. The club champion saw me playing said man you been letting that big dog eat today have you not. Would shot in the 60s but one of those drives I my chip shot I hit thin caught the front edge rolled off the back onto a bank but got up and down for par. The other drive I drove past the green into woods and had to take a drop. Bogeyed the hole 18 needed bogey to get 70 so after the drop I didn't stay aggressive I hit one to front edge and 2 putt.
"I'm striking it so well like that. I think maybe this is the secret." Did you know that's exactly how Tommy Fleetwood got his swing? His sawed off swing is not his real swing. He was doing a range session and loved the result so much he made it his all-the-time swing. Anyyyyhoooozle great video. Thx man
Great drill! Thanks for keeping it simple!
That towel is fire! Which brand? Would totally buy. Thanks.
Great advice as always Peter 🏌️♂️👍🏻🙏
Taking a 4-6 inch beaver from in front of the ball is the bane of my game.. And when I try to correct it, I sometimes end up shanking or decapitating it.. Drives me cracked, I know it's my lack of technique but watching videos like this keeps me going 🤞👍
youre flipping your wrists
@@mattbecham597I struggle with this as well. How exactly can you fix this I’m having a hard time picturing it.
It's interesting to see that you didn't seem to lose any distance there either.
My coach has me do this. And yes no distance lost. It’s because the distance generation happens at impact. Not after impact. This drill just puts you in the good positions.
I hate the drill because it goes against everything my brain tells me.
Pete how long is your 7 iron?
Should I call off work since I’ll be doing this for week?
I can't give you a doctors note I'm afraid
Which simulator software was that?
When do we get the secret to stop early extending?
Posted with just enough time before I tee off
I finally started hitting the ball like this and gained almost 20 yards on each club.
Based on his performance in Houston, I think you lit a fire under Westwood. Bad news for other golfers if it sticks.
All this effort e put in just to control a ball that is only on your club for a tiny fraction of a second. MADNESS!!!
Yep. It’a a hard game
When you think of it like that.. crazy haha 😂
I've been doing this drill for a while and one thing I've noticed is in my full swing. It's hard to follow through. I still want to cut the swing off short
I love to hate this game!!!😂😂
Looks like a shot went straight into the cup.
You don't need to take big divots. 😊
In the downswing I imagine I am holding an Olympic javelin in my hands and at the point in the downswing where shoulders swing back to parallel and trail arm tucks in become externally rotated to the max. it aimed down at the ball as if to spear it. That reminds me to keep my trail arm tightly tucked in and externally rotated while letting it straighten which is the key getting the hands to pull the swinging club head mass down the target line.
What tucking in / external rotation of the trail arm does as the the trail arm straightens and side bend changes the angle of shoulders relative the angle of the pelvis (bending of spine ) vs tilting pelvis with leg action) is CHANGE THE FORCE VECTOR OF THE CLUB HEAD MASS.
At the point the “spear” or butt of the club is pulling down at the ball the club head mass is on the same vector point 45° to the right of the target line. We need it changed to point at the target but the time it reaches the ball a fraction of a second later. Hogan figured out the secret for doing that - just control the position of the hands and let the Vardon grip “waggle” the club head mass around the hands which as it turns out when combined with side bending to change angle of shoulders and how lead arm which drags the club head forward as it is spinning changes its force vector to down the line in the critical few inches in front of the and behind the ball at impact-compression-release.
If you observe what happens to the club face when you just waggle up and down with hands you will see the toe and face rotate 90° every quickly - that is EFFORTLESS acceleration of the club head that didn’t exist in the sweeping single plane swings golfers where forced to use with Hickory clubs to prevent bending and snapping the shaft.
If you know the history of the game Byron Nelson is credited with inventing the modern two plane swing when first using a metal shaft driver buy realizing that by dropping the hands quickly at the top the shaft would bend and store all the kinetic energy the backswing creates in the club head mass, releasing it on the way down at the point the shaft goes from bowing back ) to springing forward ( as it whips around the hands. That forward bend in the shaft is why fitting shaft flex to swing speed is very important and why pros who swing incredibly fast and have bent forward shafts at impact WHICH INCREASES THE LOFT OF THE FACE need to lean the shaft forward to compensate even with XS steel shafts why many have switched to carbon shafts which flex less in their irons.
Hogan and Nelson were rivals going back to when they were kids caddying at the same West Texas club. Hogan and everyone else on the tour adopted Nelson’s new ‘two plane’ swing style and Hogan figured out how to maximize its effectiveness via his tightly tucked, hyper externally rotated trail arm and side bend to trigger the whipping of the club around the hands with a snapping down waggle action just before impact pulling both hands into ulnar deviation to lock the face square with the grip, why he rolled the lead wrist the way he did.
The fastest way to strike the irons is counter-intuitive and similar to what happens to an unbelted occupant in a head-on crash. In the golf swing the body mass is the car and the club head the occupant. Hogan’s tucked in elbows combined with his footwork, keeping back foot down, accelerates body mass in circle dragging the club head mass down behind also in a circle but then the back foot and lateral hip shift cause resistance - hitting the wall with body mass like a car crash - just as the club head is in a position to whip like a screaming banshie around the now slowed down hands.
The mistake noobs make is not letting that ‘car crash’ action occur to trigger the whipping action and for that reason never develop pro level swing speed in their club heads. The irony is that it is entirely a passive process on in the backswing, with the key to success being getting the legs and torso twisted like an old style hemp rope at the top of the backswing which Hogan explains how to do in Five Lessons with illustrations to show which muscles need to be to be stretched to make it happen.
The two words that ruined millions of recreational golf swings - including mine for 20 years - starting in the Nicklaus era were “JUST RELAX”. No part of Hogan’s legs and torso were relaxed at the top of his backswing, to the contrary everything was twisted like a torsion bar around the ten spikes of his squared back foot. The downswing just released the tension and was entirely passive.
Hogan’s wide sweeping takeaway is what triggers the same ‘car crash’ effect when the club head can’t move backward any more. It reacts by whipping up and forward around the externally rotated trail hand bend back like a server holding a tray WITH LEVERAGE NOT STRENGTH. A Hogan style sweeping outside-hands takeaway generates so much force in the club head when it reacts and whips up it the force of the club head pulling on the hands is what pulls shoulders an additional 45° to square at the top EFFORTLESSLY - the club head does all the work if you swing it back to extension down the target line. As a NOOB I never experienced that because I thought I was supposed to swing the the club head AROUND the feet in a circle not throw it behind me like there was a wasp nest on the end of the club shaft. 😊
So much detail. Who are you writing this for? You must be an engineer. I was lost at javelin.
@@shawnkirkpatrick906 I write for anyone with the same intellectual interest about the golf swing I have. I try to go beyond the HOW TO - DO THIS IT WORKS, TRUST ME to explain why, with a lot of personal experimentation an journeyman understand of physics WHY it works on a cause and effect level.
The thing that gets me is that the swing feels the same but the ball never lands in the same place.
#Golf 😅
175 yard carry from half swung 8 iron… #finchthehulk
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But I hit the ball thin all the time.
Yeah but….. the first club you hit is either driver, 3 wood or hybrid.
If you can’t keep those in play, striking your irons pure to NOT reach GIR is kinda pointless.
How do YOU strike your driver or 3 wood pure and what drills do YOU use?
Not sure why you need a towel to show the club has grounded before the ball. Wouldn't you know that anyway?
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I just cut myself shaving
Great drills. I start practicing at home. 3 balls hit the same spot without touching the towel. Attached video
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Peter. This may be a dumb question. If hitting behind the ball is so ubiquitous. Why don't we address the ball with the iron in front of the ball instead of behind it?
You will hit the ball on the backswing
@@allanhernandez25how do you know? lol
Or just buy some hybrid irons, hit them all over the face and still hit greens, just won our monthly medal hitting the ball like a ladies pee thing.
It’s simple, just get a lesson and practice practice..
Towel drill is silly. If you can't tell that you're hitting six inches behind the ball without a towel there you need professional help.
Not about knowing your striking 6 inches behind.
It’s about training your brain to change your swing without you having to consciously think about it.
But you knew that. 🙄
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3-9 drill, coach it all the time. Can't do enough of them🏌️