Musk Shows MAJOR Teslabot Improvements!
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- In an amusingly low-res video released a few hours ago, Elon Musk shows off major improvements in Tesla's Optimus robot's walking abilities. Clearly Tesla is still at the forefront of a huge wave of humanoid bots here in the year of embodied AI!
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I can’t get enough Humanoid bot news…
Same, we are birthing a new species in real time
Do you think Tesla bot is the bot with smoothest/most upright walk?
Same here.
you will when they start breaking ppl in half
@@fflodeiro Nope. Asimo is:
th-cam.com/video/A_je8cHqxSw/w-d-xo.html
Need to see Optimus get up from a fall without human intervention.
This is how I move when I have diarrhea and need the toilet urgently.🤪
I'm an orthopedic surgeon. Looking at Optimus walk I think I am seeing the toes go up as his leg enters the swing phase. This is to get the toes out of the way of the ground as the leg swings forward. There appears to be an actuator in the foot. You were talking about the foot springing down as the leg pushes off. I'm not seeing that. Prosthetic legs with feet use a a device which captures potential energy as the leg moves rearward during gate. As the foot and leg start to move forward they come off the ground and the foot flexes down releasing some energy leading to a more natural gait. With a fixed flat foot, as was in previous videos, one has to walk "flat footed" or like a penguin shuffling. Foot dynamics are very important in gait and I knew they would have to do something with that.
Also, humans walk with their knees bent to varying degrees, often 10 degrees or so. Optimus is pretty close, so to me it looks good. Another thing you might not realize is that a 6 foot human can walk through a 6 foot tunnel because of the knees being bent during walking. I've had several patients come in after knee surgery with a bandage on their head because now that their knees were straight they were taller. Optimus is getting closer.
Interesting, but it is my opinion that most young and fit people straighten their knees significantly more than this when walking quite slowly. Unless they are afraid of slipping and falling.
The video release is probably motivated primarily by recruitment and retention “hey engineers, we are doing cool stuff too!”
The low-quality could be intentional to avoid having to sanitize the area of any potentially proprietary tidbits.
Exactly.
DOD required masking?? You can bet that they are very interested in these for space missions and earthly pursuits.
Yes, but it would be fun it they would give it some sort of clothes :D
Then they could increase the quality.
Wars will be won with Xbox controllers.
@@bivens3ify optimus account posted it in full res
That’s how I walk when my back hurts.
Apparently Dan ODoud's videographer is taking side jobs.
I just wish people would talk more about implementation of solutions for the automation problem which will lower human value to near zero and make the entire consumer Market collapse. This is why we will need a Ubi based off the total automated production percentage of the GDP and couple it with a automatic flat tax so large corporations can't avoid Taxation and have the whole system on blockchain with proof of work so the flat tax is easier to implement. The Ubi would be tax-free for the user if used on the issued card that is non-refillable by the user. This incentivizes a basic level cash-free economy without Force making it easier to track counterfeit supernotes. And the system is the closest thing to owning means of production that a free market can do. We can also change the natural born citizen status so citizens eligible for Ubi benefits must be born of at least one legal citizen as a biological parent. This creates more of a Melting Pot of cultures and puts up a money wall for the southern border crisis.
Ian't this the first time we've sen Optimus walk a curved line?! 👍🍿
For those of you living in warmer climates: This is how you walk on slippery ice. 😅
Exactly.
or if you have shit your pants and you dont want it to move around to much in your pants as the wet feeling when it moves is really shitty
Actually need one of these on the moon to upright the satellites there; the naughty man on the moon keeps pushing the landers over.
There will also be many, many jobs that people find for Optimus that people haven't yet thought of and maybe couldn't possibly do.
We could train the robot to give Dan problems.
O'Dowd? I think he may be a competing robot, stuck in a loop.
Pick up litter. I want to take mine on dog walks and have it clean up as we walk.
Yeah, a couple of bad neighbors strew debris and garbage up and down several blocks. 🤷♂️
Walking slowly on a predefined path must have an application somewhere!
Hope to see Optimus run soon!
I thought Elon wanted the people to be able to outrun and beat the bot in strength. With this pace there are already people that could not outrun it!
NEO will have a running demo in the next weeks.
I just wish people would talk more about implementation of solutions for the automation problem which will lower human value to near zero and make the entire consumer Market collapse. This is why we will need a Ubi based off the total automated production percentage of the GDP and couple it with a automatic flat tax so large corporations can't avoid Taxation and have the whole system on blockchain with proof of work so the flat tax is easier to implement. The Ubi would be tax-free for the user if used on the issued card that is non-refillable by the user. This incentivizes a basic level cash-free economy without Force making it easier to track counterfeit supernotes. And the system is the closest thing to owning means of production that a free market can do. We can also change the natural born citizen status so citizens eligible for Ubi benefits must be born of at least one legal citizen as a biological parent. This creates more of a Melting Pot of cultures and puts up a money wall for the southern border crisis..
@@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler The flat tax is interesting. Usually the tax system is based on profits. The problem comes with international businesses. If I sell a car in country A but make it in country B, which country should get the taxes? A big problem is which country pays for Directors and royalties? I guess you are thinking that it is easier to just count the robots in each country. However that is still not easy. One problem is how to define a robot. Is a robot arm taxed differently from a humanoid? Are spare robots taxed? What if the robot goes to another country for a short or long time? Are simple robots taxed the same as complex ones? Is an autonomous car a robot? How about an autonomous forklift. By using a flat rate of tax we are swapping one complex tax system for another complex tax system. I'm not sure there is an advantage. I agree with UBI which should enable consumers to consume as they currently do. Block chain is interesting. I have only seen it described as a way to avoid tax, but you pose it as a way to ensure tax. I suppose the Government would own the crypto accounting?
@@robertwhite3503 any job that humans can do that a machine does is a bot. Tax them based on the value of the job and the amount of people displaced. Farmers use combines that steal thousands of low paying jobs a year. Tesla bot on the factory floor displaces 3-4 semi skilled workers each doing a 6hr shift. An 8 hour day is only 6 hours work. Humans waste a lot of time on breaks. Tax at 1/2 what a human would pay in labor tax. Put all that money into the UBI. Divide it by how many people are eligible to collect it. Let the IRS handle it all. Done.
1.5 meters per second is plenty to do the vast majority of helpful tasks. Turning smoothly in place and surviving unexpected bumps would be more important than increasing walking speed.
Yes if they made this thing walk human speed it would scare most people. Right now it has a Robot Helper walk and that’s great
Just imagine a fleet of these robots being sent to the moon or Mars to construct bases before humans go there
Imagine is just the right word since it certainly won't happen. As Gywen Shotwell, SpaceX President and CEO said living on Mars for the first 100 years will be like camping at Antarctica. The public just doesn't understand how challenging starting a base on Mars will be. Space is super hard.
I bet that is Elon's big plan
It should be NASAs plan too.
Roller blading would be a good test.
Also skateboarding
Juggling?
It would be interesting if they built an exoskeleton suit for a human that would best capture the range of movement of Optimus. A human could "make the best natural movements" and sensors could be used to train Optimus.
I hope they put a video screen in the face like the ones in the remake of Lost in Space. I want to be able to talk to, ask and see things reflected in the "face" including emotions and confidence reflected in shades of colors.
Iain M. Banks?
I really think that Tesla's bot is a beautiful concept. Even if he walks around slowly. Just imagine such a robot with a LLM mind. It would be like a person that you can talk to. And if it can do things around the house too and watch the children/pets or guard the house? It would be the best thing ever.
Optimization -he won’t walk slow for long. They’ll tune him at least to a fast walk (4 mph). Anything more than that will be showing off.
They use the same camera used to record UFOs and ghosts 😂
I suspect there was some IP in the background and they down-sampled the video to make it unrecognizable.
Nice to see Optimus turn a little, and not just walk straight forward.
Remembering the Bigfoot footage 😂 Well, the movement of Optimus looks better than the others out there. Even the highly invested Figure AI bot walks a bit strange.
Thank you doc
Keep in mind that walking its one of the most big challenging for a robot’s designers or developers .Even for some humans as well even someone mentioned before.
nice smooth surface...
I would like each retail teslabot to have it's own individual ai learning 'brain' so that when you buy one it can continue to learn according to your whims.
Smooth operator! 🤙🏽
Even more spring in the step from the toe would require more hip rotation and even some spinal rotation but this looks much better tan I've seen anywhere.
Next - humanoid olympics, something that lets companies compete on speed and agility of their robots and entertain the crowds.
Excellent update. I really don't think teleoperated would work here as all the foot motion would have to be locally calculated for balance purposes.
0:20 The problem with big foot is that big foot is blurry - Mitch Hedberg
A couple years many people were laughing at Tesla for starting work on humanoid robots. Now everyone is trying to get into the game. This is another example of Elon being a visionary. I'm still optimistic that Tesla can lead in this field at least with respect to Figure. First, Tesla can put it into work in their own factory to prove out the technology with real-time feedback to the engineering team. Second, big consortiums like with Figure tend to get bogged down. Anyway, exciting times.
Yes, agree, looks very much like smooth Bezier curve motion trajectories.
Substandard quality might be to "hide" the background information. Cropping or tracked blurring would leave a window of information that can be regenerated.
I assume that the quality was toned down so competition can’t zoom in and gain information. See Elon’s comments on AI day regarding that.
A bot on roller blades could work pretty well. The bot could potentially lock the wheels to walk or stand, then scoot when needed. Would love to see a roller skate / blade motion on a bot. Even the shoes with rollers could be pretty cool. Great idea
Please how much if any did they modify the "toes" part of the foot?
DKIA, I notice that the people around Optimus are not that interested, which means Optimus is further along then this
What is interesting is that the humans seem to be paying very little attention to the robot. This suggests a degree of familiarity with Optimus.
its reaching to step versus leaning into the next step.
Walking style, David Weck method, "Head over Foot"
I would suggest that the video is low quality to hide new developments in the design, (protect IP). I notice that the arms, head and legs are adjusting movement constantly to maintain balance (as do we humans)
Looking better all the time! That said, almost all humanoid robots walk like they really have to go to the bathroom -- seen here as well. In addition to the toe-off that John describes, most human walking has a moment where the heel touches the ground first (as opposed to the whole bottom of the foot landing at the same time), and at that moment, the leg is fully extended with no bend in the knee.
Knee doesn’t straighten. No heel first, flex to toe on the step.
Lower posture is a permanent, slight crouch
Leg action has made good progress. Upper body not so much, with a human gait being the benchmark. Appears Optimus is unaware of the weight of its limbs.
Yeah, it's swinging its arms, but not its shoulders to offset the hip motion. Its too stiff backed.
This is really impressive!
The rapid development of this bot is mind-blowing!
I believe this is where Elon's companies merge technologies!
The Bot gets vocalized by Grok, gets a ride on a Tesla/Starship, heads for Mars and prepares the place for the arrival of humanity from Earth!
Brilliant Megaplan!!!...
How far can it walk on a battery charge?
Definite improvements here! Great to see! Now if Optimus had a bit of triple extension going on and some elastic band type stuff maybe to mimic hamstrings he would walk faster and even more natural looking. 👍
It gives me the feeling that they've had it walk that path for hours and it's a little bit fed up - lol
- that's not as anthropomorphic it might sound - I can't help shake how low the hip joint is and that forces the movement to appear sluggish... but maybe that's come from my animation background - 'curious how you/others feel about it.
Dude is to protect the technology from the competition
Why do the arms swing?
Optimus Speed : If each step is 35cm and it takes 100 steps in 60 seconds, we can calculate the total distance covered in 100 steps:
Total distance = 35cm/step * 100 steps = 3500cm
Now, let's convert the distance from centimeters to kilometers:
1 kilometer = 100,000 centimeters
Distance in kilometers = 3500cm / 100,000cm/km = 0.035 km
Next, let's calculate the speed in kilometers per hour (km/h):
Speed = Distance / Time
Speed = 0.035 km / (60 seconds / 3600 seconds/hour) = 2.1 km/h
Therefore, the speed is approximately 2.1 kilometers per hour.
Ai generated
5kph is normal human walking speed, so still little more than double is needed.
@@shreyashvaidya5492 Of course, the outcome is the result of AI logic, influenced by the collective thought processes of many minds. However, what truly matters is the accuracy of the information output from the correct prompt, devoid of any hallucinations.
@@andrasbiro3007 Humans don't walk that fast in office environments. That's walking on an open unobstructed path with no risk of hitting something and no turns.
Also most manual laborers do not walk that fast. Janitors, waiters, and other standing/walking don't have to walk that fast. The janitors have to stop and do tasks, the waiters might hit each other, patrons, or drop food (and break plates).
One possible profession is Security Guards those with automated patrol systems typically have to walk 2 to 3mp while on a tour. However, wheeled and tracked robots are already replacing them.
Where else do you see a high walking speed required? I think those jobs are probably better replaced by wheeled or tracked robots.
I love the way you start off with centimeters, do a bunch of calculations, then continue ert to inches and feet. Why not start off by converting the centimeters in the beginning ? I will not be badgered into using the metric system by people who think they know what is best for everyone.
@DrKnowItAllKnows - ...and did you realize that the left shoulder cap (and thus the upper torso) of the robot is swinging forth and back while the head stays looking straight forward.
...and btw... totally different paradigm:
But findings ways to have artificial gravity in space ships to make space flight productive for humans is as important as having humanoid robots.
4:30 i want to see bump testing.
Whoever is responsible for the video quality is the same person responsible for sound quality on earnings calls.
Next optimus will be doing the bigfoot walk
Telsa should hire some animators part time to consult on natural movement. That might be interesting to spot some 'gaps' Tesla Bot may have. Feels to me the pacing of the lower body and upper body might be slightly off as well since its being trained separately. Nevertheless, great job to the Tesla team!!
Teslabot on rollerskates serving food to the cars at the Tesla drive in diner...
Most companies fire people for walking aimlessly around the workplace.
As an 81 year old man in excellent health except for osteoarthritis of the knees (yes I know new artificial knees would help, but not big on the operation for a variety of reasons) Optimus should not be walking like an old man - that is, should raise the ball of foot and land on heels with front of the foot elevated then flexing to ground to use the ball of the foot to propel forward. Until this flat-footed gait is fixed Optimus won't appear to be walking naturally. I have an exercise that helps me - stand a against wall, extend feet about a foot forward, and then raise front of your feet, using heels as a fulcrum. Repeat to build up to build up strength. Perhaps a device simulating that exercise would help Optimus get to the next level.
Or, as our parents used to say, "Pick up your feet when you walk!"
This video must be taken on the new Tesla phone at this quality
He looks better and nice and relatively quick. I look forward to seeing Optimus working on building Teslas
This gait and the walking motion is so much better and smother. Walking is a great indicator of just how fare Tesla bot has came. And as you said so many movies being released by so many different robotics companies shows just how hot robotic development is right now. Tesla bot is at a tipping point with it's walking. As to turning it's more an ability of the robot to do what is called an about face in marching. Turn around in one smooth motion with little or no movement except the change of direction.
It is likely NOT teleoperated and NOT autonomous but following a preprogrammed path. Teleoperated would mean - too unpredictable to hit the points, but telling it a path, then this is good demonstration of the walking mechanism. I wonder whether they will handle getting up (after falling) at some point - slipping or being pushed etc. are viable failure scenarios and a Robot has to handle this.
Well, we didn't see any effort on Tesla part in preprogramming their bots in first place, since from beginning they using their FSD as basis for everything. If they did go for preprogramming, they might not get even comparable result to just leaving it AI. At least that's what I think.
I like the idea of having it do the dishes and continue with the laundry
BTW, being a slow walker myself with short legs, Optimus could walk a bit faster if it employed a longer stride, where it seems its stride is pretty short.
Or roller skating around a factory!!
I think the Knee bend is intentional for better balance, since it’s "muscles " won’t get tired, I’m assuming that it can straighten to get closer to things.
The Head bobbing looks cool, as long as the Cameras can handle it. It would look Menacing if the Head were perfectly Stable though, especially when it can Run, Usain Bolts head doesn’t move much at all.
Cheers from San Diego
Optimus walks by the lockers on the wall. I assume that's where the technicians keep their slumber gear for sleeping on the Optimus floor.
hahaha
Bots could replace dogs at SPACE X for on launch inspections too
The robot wars have begun. I expect frequent updates from all the players as they compete for media attention.
Talking about pirouette, take a look behind the cloths folding robot in that clip. There is one Optimus doing nothing but pirouetting.
Seems to be a hint of heel and toe in the gait, not so much flat foot shuffle.
Doing better than before.
Got a long ways to go before you see any weight shift, or contrapposto-but certainly better than Figure’s stilted shuffle-walk.
5:40 "... an important step for the bot to be able to do ..." and an important step in OptiMusk development.
This walking speed is not as slow as you guys make out. It is about 2 kph in metric. I am a reasonably active near 80 year old and walk at 5+ kph when exercising. I see many of my generation out walking at much slower speeds and this would make Optimus an ideal walking companion for them - and also able to encourage them to remain active by engaging in conversation with an AI connection through Starlink. I would like to see Omtimus recover from a fall and be exercised on uneven ground.
I’m 76. After major heart attack and ef of 26 I can walk 5 miles at 5.8 kmh.
Little swag in the shoulders.
Just to clarify, this is NOT teleoperated at a joint-by-joint level! We've had the tech to do that for over 2 decades now, but that's not going to happen here. To do that, the operator would have to be suspended in a rig that would cause the tilt of the operator's head to match the robot's head, with haptic slings to transmit forces to all of the limbs and hips. Perhaps this is teleoperated on a coarse grained level by someone just steering the Optimus with a game controller. EDIT: I also note, you used Heavenly/Tahoe and San Jose in the same paragraph as "near." From our perspective in the bay area, those 1st two are not near San Jose. (But from your perspective in Georgia, they might seem near relatively.)
OPTIMUS needs to achieve--
Benchmark achievement #1-
Climbing stairs
Benchmark achievement #2-
Climbing stairs while carrying a heavy box
Benchmark achievement #3-
Climbing into & out of a side X side ATV
Benchmark achievement #4-
Driving the ATV
!
Great walk improvement in just a few weeks. The robotic proprioception is less robotics, maybe need sock in a ruber shoes.
I think roller skating with 4 wheels, rectangular shape [not 4 in line] to move faster is a good idea, but skiing impractical because in a factory there is no snow but a bot may need to move faster.
Wheels would be more efficient in a factory environment.
0:00: 🤖 Elon Musk reveals footage of Optimus walking confidently in a lab, resembling Bigfoot footage.
2:27: 🔧 Significant enhancements observed in the latest Teslabot prototype, with improved functionality and appearance.
4:49: ⛷️ Robot skiing ability and potential for future advancements discussed.
7:22: ⚙️ Tesla focuses on enhancing humanoid bot mobility and dexterity for factory operations.
9:41: 🚀 Advancements in robotics and space exploration, including asteroid mining, terraforming Mars, and interplanetary travel.
Timestamps by Tammy AI
The low resolution is to prevent viewers examining the mechanisms in detail.
Is the lo rez to keep competitor’s prying eyes off the details? Musk said himself that they go over them frame by frame.
Still employs an inverted pendulum walking algorithm, which is old school. Most of the other humanoid competitors employ a "pogo stick" walking algorithm, which is the modern development algorithm for more nimble bipedal mobility.
Video released right after Figure AI's big announcement. 🤷🏼♂️
Could they put sensors on humans and record sensor input with video to teach ot through observations?
I would like to see it use it's arms more for balance.
In the video I think I'm seeing a lot of other robots in their lab in the background.
they could do rollerskating without leaving the lab.
Will Optimus always have the head bobbin because there is no spine just pivot points at the hip and neck?
This is almost scary good. When we see bots building bots, that's game over.
I also appears that the head may dip into the turn or slightly rotate in a human way. It appears to be a whole body involment. That is a big change form the shuffeling feet. I have not seen any bot that does that, they use the legs to facilitate a turn. What do you think? Big step forward in achieving a humnan like gant.
If Optimus could pimp walk while looking at the camera, it might cause TSLA to jump. Ha ha
Just look at how many Optimus robots there are in the background of this video! 😮
Hey John, does it make sense that if Tesla wanted to show us some advancements in walking but without allowing competitors to see details about something that may be going on in the lab, that they would use a low quality video like this to do so?
If so, then we should be happy they are using this approach to allow us to stay informed.
We will know it functions when we see it doing work in the Tesla factory.
Wow! A 12-minute video with 12 seconds of information.
Optimus walking speed is about 1.3 mph, but the average healthy adult walks at about 3 mph.
"A large 2020 study into walking speed found the average to be approximately 3mphs. Another estimate, this time by the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention, put the figure between 2.5-4mphs."
Still good progress, and no need to go any faster than three miles and 2.5 hour gets the job done.
No need to ski or skate, but being able to handle stairs and uneven surfaces would be helpful.
The real question is when can it do useful work. Most factory work doesn't entail that much walking.
I think it's intentionally blurry, to obscure any background items that might be revealed otherwise.