Hey guy's, just wanted to add a note here that the ArtDeShine graphene coating used in this video is now about two formulations old and according to the brand's reps and other users/reviews the current formula is much improved which I think is great to hear. New technology always has a learning curve and I'm appreciative of brands that take that leap to help further the detailing community and all the amazing products at our disposal.
This is the only detailing channel I know that performs tests and comparisons comprehensively and factors in every possible case scenario. From the user experience up to the proper curing time, real life tests under Aussie conditions, chemical resistance tests, multiple test panels with different layers and configurations, logical explanations and unbiased opinions, etc. and many more that other channels don't do. We really appreciate your hardwork, Sandro. We love you man, I'm your number 1 fan here in the PH. Thank you for this video.
Well knowing that it is three times the cost of a known, easy to use, durable, and beautiful ceramic coating, I strain to see the value. 3.0 is on my friend's car and he absolutely loves it. And his paint work is quite nice. Thank you for another great and thorough comparison.
Another masterpiece Sandro! Perfect visuals, concise conclusions based on observable factors, awesome editing to pull everything together for the viewers. Thanks for sharing your extensive testing and experience with these coatings, and packaging it all together so seamlessly so that we can observe exactly what you are. Your work is truly invaluable to the community.
ease of application is something i really need....i live in a very very very humid and hot environment in south florida...and even easy to apply ceramics flash very fast....so theres no way im touching this graphine.....ill happily stick with car pro cquarks uk 3.0....love the results.....love the gloss and hydrophobics....plus a brand that stands behind their product.
It will be interesting to see how the technology develops, if it's as good as CQuartz UK 3.0 from the start, imagine when graphene matures as SIO2 did, the coatings will be awesome
I am actually very disappointed in how this Graphene coating performed since UK has been out for a while now. It kind of tells me they still have a very long ways to go since it’s not even out performing UK. Since technology has changed a lot expected no excuses from Graphene type coating and my guess is they really didn’t do much in depth testing before releasing it. They need car craft to do their testing for them.
This is the best, most honest description of these graphene coatings that I have seen to date. For that reason, I have subscribed. So, my decision? First, I will not be buying Artedeshine due to its application difficulty. I also feel that it is overpriced. Second, until the graphene coatings industry improves their delivery medium, I will not be using any of their products. I'll just have to wait for the chemists to figure it all out. This honest detailer helped me make those decisions. Thank you, sir. Well done.👍
Great test & review, thank you. I just did my first graphene, with Adam's Graphene Ceramic. It does flash very quickly like the ArtDeShine but it was not difficult to level out, even if it dried a bit. The gloss and slickness and hydrphobics are impressive, and if it's no better than a consumer-grade ceramic, that's ok by me as I picked it up for $69; not much of a premium over most ceramics. If it performs better, great.
Tricky application but outstanding results. Uncommonly slick - can confirm. Art De Shine looks like a performance coating to me but we will keep an eye on it .Love both products
Had to check my box with Artdeshine as you said any instruction wasn’t in yours? In my box from Artdeshine I also had the copper Artdeshine Nano Graphene card, some stickers BUT also a instruction book how to apply the coating. In it the instruction was application guide, curing, usage/storage. The instruction was easy to understand and follow.
Great thanks for time, own products, samples and the great job! Nice to see the result Sandro and have the correct information about the product and comparison!
I sincerely appreciate your commentary and thorough review here. I know graphene is not ready yet and I am happy that we can find your reliable and insightful take on it. People are just impatient in general and it's truly difficult to know, when the next graphene-oxide coating releases, if it's matured and actually superior.
Absolute beast of a video Sandro! That ending, Nv Pro doing its magic! Hurry up Melbourne and open your borders so I can come do a NV certified class with you Sandro!
Very good, glad you’ve exposed the water spot performance between these two. Thanks Sandro, another worthy vid! You and others are helping these manufacturers to recognize the consumer worth of their products, or better, to improve their products further to match the premium price.
how are you not more popular than some of the other detail channels!? Your comparisons are concise and on another level compared to more 'popular' channels such as Pan and Apex detailing
I've been looking into Art Deshines line up of coatings for my Grand Cherokee. I'd get the whole meal deal with the Graphine, wheel coating, leather coating, and glass coating
Thank you for taking out all bs and marketing Sandro. To me this is the best channel for detailing and true user experience and level of skills. As a non professional i learn the most from you💎keep the shine going on💎
Nice job, Sandro. Definitely made me happy I chose UK 3.0 to coat my car with a few months ago. I find that UK 3.0 topped with Gliss V2 is plenty slick and works great.
Great video as always Sandro. I don’t know how an RRP of $280 can be justified based on your results, but I guess that’s what “boutique” brands do - nice packaging, slick marketing, large price tag!
Thanks for the video. Your results chemically line up with my testing of SPS graphene over the course of a year against other ceramics I clouding Cquartz UK 3.0. The initial performance is great but just as you noted once that shield is pierced it degrades rather quickly. We shall share if graphene has the staging power or if it will just be a fad.
I believe the biggest difference in expectations between the graphene ceramic coatings and the previous SiO2 coatings is that the graphene ceramic coatings are supposed to retain less dust due to its anti-static properties and to keep the car's paint / surfaces at a cooler temperature, which would obviously be better to protect cars in hotter climates. The hydrophobic qualities and gloss factor are essentially the same. I've used Adam's Graphene Spray coating and Adam's Ceramic Boost spray coating, and performance wise they are nearly identical. Just like with any other detailing job, it's more about the prep work with the wash, decontamination, clay bar, and paint correction prior to applying the coating.
I been detailing cars for the past 12 years now. False marketing is the main issue here. Over hyped product strength and false promises lead to customer’s disappointment and lost trust. I have tested almost 50 different brands of ceramic coating throughout the years but to be honest non of it come close to what they describe. End of the day whatsoever technology that you use it’s not permanent solutions! The car owner need to take some responsibility to maintain their vehicle. As a Detailer you have to be sincere to your customers whenever you presenting the solutions.
Bro I'm soo thankful that I found your channel, im going to learn everything I can from you because I want to start a side hustle on the weekends and free time and your advise and experience will start my business at a high level. Thank you for taking the time to test the products you use and make these videos.
I really enjoyed the information and comparison you provided. It seems that everyone is testing their coatings, whether it be graphene or ceramic, based on gloss enhancement, chemical resistance and of course ease of use. Part of the benefits touted by these products is the resistance to swirls and light scratches. Has anyone devised a test for this? It would be great to add to the testing process when comparing products, but I’ve never seen anyone do this. Keep up the top notch work!
Hello Sandro, super glad to see you got your comment replies back. That was thousands of comments. Got a few questions if you don't mind. 1 - From my research NV Snow is the only wash I know of that is ph neutral with no gloss enhancers or wax. Its currently out of stock in the usa. Do know of any alternatives? 2 - My car is now ceramic coated (cquartz) and i'm considering using a ceramic infused wash. The main thing going through my mind is whether using a ceramic wash on my glass (coated with nv glass ceramic) could mask the effectiveness of my glass coating. What do you opt for currently with maintaining ceramic coatings ( ph neutral washes, carpro reload, carpro reset, ect) 3 - After loosing my mind until 11pm cleaning interior glass, I generally feel that compared to nv clarity and a few other streak free cleaners nothing removes residue better than pure IPA. Have you had the same experience?
Thanks and my older comments are gone for good but I can still make new comments moving forward. CarPro Reset has no enhancement additives and it’s also great maintenance wash for coated cars. Ideally it’s really best to stick to pure car wash soaps as hydrophobic additive ones can mask the superior behaviour of your various coatings. I tend to use Nv Boost a lot and it really seems to play well with the paint and glass coatings with no issue but Elixir could also be another good option. Cloths are also extremely important when cleaning glass, to make sure they are super clean and only used for glass but I personally have great success with Clarity and Eraser, but it you feel a straight IPA solution works best for you I’d just stick with it!
Thank you for the video Sandro and yes I too emailed you asking your opinion on the graphene coating trend couple months back. I guess they are still not upto the mark from the results in this video. Also I really appreciate you compared it with Cquartz as it's my favorite coating for its value and performance.
Sandro this was an incredibly well thought out, researched, and superbly produced video, which I believe has become your signature trademark. You constantly and unswervingly share the basic and blunt truths of every product. You accomplish this with a very thorough explanation, that is well laid out courtesy of your systematic presentation. In the two years, I have been watching TH-cam channels, few, if any produce a more comprehensive testing scenario to match real-world conditions than you Sandro; period, end of the story. My search to find the best coating to prevent or reduce the effect of water spots on non-garaged daily drivers over the last few months had finally convinced me to switch from Sio2 coatings to Graphene was from faulty conclusions I gained from believing the hype from all the manufactures and the youtube channels. But Brian at Apex and Brian at Chicago Auto Pros gave me pause when I watched their conclusions and now after watching yours, I feel that Sio2 coatings are still equal and in some ways still superior to Graphene and am sticking with Sio2. Granted graphene coatings have for the most part relied on TH-cam host's comments that showed graphene had better slickness, sheeted more than beaded, ease of application, and a better finish for the most part and only lately have some of the more credible hosts like yourself brought up the fact that a lot of the Sio2 coatings, after years of testing, have maturated to a point where they also have ease of application, high levels of slickness and some are even seeing sheeting. The conclusion that has been sold to us, is that Graphene is much better in reducing or preventing water spots and even if water spots appear, they can be more easily removed from a graphene product whereas we all know it can't be removed from a Sio2 coating. Your video has really helped me to stick with the Sio2 ceramic coatings and yes, CarPro CQuartz UK 3.0 is one of my favorites especially with Gliss on top of the UK 3.0. Thank you.
Sandra, great video! I recently applied Art de Shine BX graphene coating and Maintenance coat. Both were very easy to apply and remove. It was a good experience. Apply, wait about 20 seconds, and wipe off with two microfiber, no wetting or leveling agent needed. The BX left a very slick surface. I applied a second coat 24 hrs later, then the Maintenance coat another 24 hours later. The Maintenance coat seems to have reduced the slickness slightly. The applicator cloth dried similar to your Nano cloth. I am looking forward to seeing how it holds up. Thank you for all of your great material!
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: “graphene” coatings are just high end ceramic coatings with an RGO additive just so they can slap graphene on the label and milk the hell out of the hype it’s been on for quite some time. If tech giants like Panasonic have been having trouble with the technology in its solid form even with their advanced facilities and manufacturing processes, what makes you think the detailing industry could just put it in a bottle in liquid form and have it be stable and apt for such a niche automotive use? It just doesn’t add up. It’s funny, if you’re objective/skeptical about this people get mad at you and/or call you a hater. MARKETING 101 Edit: small spelling error
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing Yeah, regardless I’m gonna try out the new graphene coating from Adams. I’m already bored and wanna polish my car again as it’s been 1 yr since I polished and put UK3.0 on it and it’s still performing like day 1. I believe the Ethos and Adams coatings are the same as I think they’re both blended by B&B but only the manufacturers know that. The adams coating seems to be SLIGHTLY more hydrophobic than CQUARTZ and I just like trying new products.
You are right that reduced Graphene Oxide (rGO) is used as an additive in a silicone polymer or composite just as SiO2 or TiO2 is used the same way. These products are widely misunderstood as graphene, TiO2 or SiO2 based when really they are used as additives for enhancement of certain properties. Even more widely assumed is the coating is a "1 atom thick layer of graphene" which really isn't what Artdeshine is trying to make or market as that will not give us any beneficial function we need. That is what many electrical companies are doing as it gives them electrical conductivity and sensitivity. We need not that refinement of rGO or even pure graphene. And Artdeshine do know how to disperse rGO into polymeric matrixes. Artdeshine's Nano Graphene Coating is not termed ceramic because the percentages of SiO2 which the term "ceramic" came about is very low. Most of the components are silicone polymers that are cured to be softer and more flexible as compared to hard like you noticed in the applicator cloth. Hardness does not determine how durable or abrasion resistant the product can be (Artdeshine does make hard ceramic coatings too). Abrasion resistance mostly comes from how much friction is produced by the surface, more sleek less friction less chances of marring. More about why rGO is used in the product. It is a fact that rGO helps with anti-corrosion and in the polymeric matrix it has shown capabilities in IR transmission tests to lower IR absorbance. This is an indicator of lower thermal absorption which we know heat is a very strong catalyst in chemical reactions with contaminants that causes etching.
So in the end Sandro after a thorough going over with that chemical-the NV was unfazed and the ADS was totally gone!! I think it’s time you tried ADS ‘s V111 ..easier to apply with the same if not better slickness,and appearance.Nice work Sandro.Thankyou
Always spot on, Sandro. No difference here. I will say that most of our customers have been requesting adams graphene, and it is a pleasant coating to work with.
Fantastic review Sandro. I have had a lot of clients request Adams graphene for their cars. At about $80 it is a good price point and results in gloss, hydrophobic abilities and slickness, it is hard to beat. I would love you to test it. Thanks!
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing mine is a '89 1,6... all original except for some weird 90's alarm system left by the previous owner.. wanted one since i was about 14 when i first saw some group b rally videos.. about 15 years later i finally got to buy one..definitely a keeper..
Nice work as always, great video, so much information, I really appreciate every single moment from your time, and to be fair you one of a few in the detailing world very honest and you not an advertising scam like some on TH-cam, you are a real teacher and professional detailer .
Regarding graphine vs ceramic you have chosen for test the most expencive graphine please use glassparency or adams graphine bouth maching ceramic coat price at list in USA.
Wouldn’t expect any less form Sandro to tell it how it is, great review as expected. Too many TH-cam detail channels surprisingly never have anything negative to say about these products, including unsubstantiated durability claims, simply to suck their subscribers in to use coupon codes for commission.
Hello there Sandro, first I want to tell you how much I love your videos. Second, can I get a recommendation on a good water spot remover? Can you please make a video? Thanks and I hope you and the family stay safe and healthy.
I appreciate it mate and hope you and your family are also doing well! I’ll try and do a video on it in the future, but the one I used in the video is great, and CarPro also updated the formula of Spotless recently and it also seems to work so much better.
Graphene will definitely be the next hype marketing product. Adams is advertising their’s heavily. 303 also came out with a spray on, wipe off, graphene coating and it’s already sold out. Thanks for the hard work Sandro! Guess we should really pay attention when CarPro, Gyeon and Gtechniq start pumping graphene products. A Gtechniq higher up is part of a detailing Facebook group I’m in and he claims they’ve tried messing with graphene but unable to produce anything better than what they offer.
@El Stormbringer honestly Sandro is the only detailer I’ve watched on TH-cam that I trust to review products. I watched that Apex detail video and when I saw him apply the spray to a car that was already fully corrected and coated I shut that shit off.
@El Stormbringer to be fair, that was the Zymol graphene spray that failed after the first wash test. Brian’s review of the 303 graphene spray received a passing grade though.
Well done, yet again, Sandro. You're the only detail reviewer that I can trust, that doesn't bow to promo code providing commission getting, nor afraid of telling people the way a product is and fuck the manufacturer's feelings. Having said that, I don't know your background or affiliation to Waxit, but I notice there seem to be a bit of Nv product promo here and in many other of your videos, and some footage I've seen of you seems to be done at the Waxit premises (correct me if I'm completely wrong here). So I feel there is a little bit of vested interest there. Having said that, I do see the Nv range as bloody brilliant and haven't been able to fault their products. Thanks again, for an informative video, mate.
Thanks, and discuss my detailing journey and relationship with waxit in the tour of the shop video below if you’re interested th-cam.com/video/MLz8bOZK_AE/w-d-xo.html
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing Thank you mate, and that was an awesome and humbling video where you open up to your followers. I wish you nothing but success, Sandro. Like you, I've used Waxit for many years and can't wait until Melbourne is opened up so I can drive there and pick stuff up, instead of getting it delivered! In fact I just got 4L of Snow+ delivered today. Looking forward to your next videos mate.
Great video. Nice tests. I have Mayvinci C16 ceramic coating on the side panels of my car AMG E55K for 2 years now. I had Carpro Quarts UK 3 on the bonnet, roof and boot. The Quarts lasted 8 months. The Mayvinci is still performing like day 1. I now have Ethos Graphene Matrix Coating on the bonnet, roof and boot. Like your test the Graphene seems to be behaving better with the water than the Quarts as it's early days. The graphene appears to be performing similar to my Mayvinci coat but seems a little better than than the Mayvinci in the beading and I had no water spots after rain. The rain was mixed with ash as we had back burning. The Mayvinci cost me 500 aud dollars. The Graphene 160 AUD. I did it this way to see which product outlasts each other as the Graphene is supposed to last for five years and the Mayvinci 3 years. Time consuming test but it will tell the truth.
Sandro, great video. Excellent comparison. If you haven't seen it yet check out Chicago Auto Pro's in depth review on the technology and chemistry of graphene coatings. Confirms everything you have said. Interesting stuff.
Just caught this video on my feed and very good and interesting video. There are a few Graphene coating now like Adam's and the ones on this video. There is also one i seen Pan post which is Roar Coatings and they seem to do things different which has me interested. Graphene has not really taken off too much yet will be interesting to see 5 or 10 years from now if that changes
Good video. ADS doesn’t recommend 2 coats. While it is more finicky to apply n remove, once you get the hang of it, it’s a great coating. The directions came in my box but are a bit confusing. You can go directly to their page on FB and ask any questions you have though and get fantastic answers to help you. They do also have different coatings with different levels of shine, chemical resistance, or ease of applications as well. I really like ADS products and think you definitely get what u pay for. Thanks for the video!!! It’s a good one!!!
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing ohh, and the NGC you used in the video is V1. They have a V2 now, that is easier to use and more chemical resistant. Good day my friend
I heard Carpro is going to release a bunch of new products soon,like lift the brand new prewash snow foam and the other exting new products,I can't wait to see your new videos about those new products!
Sandro I’ve been watching your videos for a few years and maybe I’ve missed it but have you done an “ultimate” video? if you had the time what you would do to a car to make it have the highest level of correction and shine possible? I mean your prized detail that would stand out well above any other job you’ve ever done. I think that would be an amazing video series using as many techniques and tips and tricks as possible. 😁 thank you for everything you do. People in my area think I do amazing work but if they saw what you do, they would laugh at me...lol
Thanks mate, I guess the four part series I did on the Nissan Skyline GTR would be close to the ultimate detail, but every car has its limitations depending on the existing paint and overall condition so it’s always a case by case scenario!
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing I do love that series. I guess I’ll watch that again. Lol. I just finished a battered corvette where the lady cried when she saw the results. It’s all thanks to you! It wasn’t perfect but I guess most detailers are never satisfied with their results. There is always something else that can be done..
Hey Sandro! Graphene someday may be the King of the hill....but not today! 😎 Like you said, some manufacturers are rushing to get a product out there that has the buzz word Graphene on it. That’s a label and level that has to be backed up with ‘High End’ results to withstand the scrutiny that YOU will put it through. 😂 If they would have came out and said this product was a ‘top of the line’ si02 coating it still wouldn’t have took top shelf. 🤔 1) Anything NV 2) Anything CarPro 3) Does it matter...😁 Great video Sandro! Appreciate you and your thorough knowledge of all things detailed 💯💯 Good day mate!
I agree with you the technology is just not there yet. True graphene is very expensive and is only one atom thick. These new products are (in my opinion)are graphene oxide mixed with a carrier or transfer solution. So basically a ceramic coating with some graphene oxide mixed in.
@@williambrewer855 I watched that one as well as several others including ethos, adams and ammo nyc. Also the typical google search. What’s your opinion on graphene?
You are right that reduced Graphene Oxide (rGO) is used as an additive in a silicone polymer or composite just as SiO2 or TiO2 is used the same way. These products are widely misunderstood as graphene, TiO2 or SiO2 based when really they are used as additives for enhancement of certain properties. Even more widely assumed is the coating is a "1 atom thick layer of graphene" which really isn't what Artdeshine is trying to make or market as that will not give us any beneficial function we need. That is what many electrical companies are doing as it gives them electrical conductivity and sensitivity. We need not that refinement of rGO or even pure graphene. And Artdeshine do know how to disperse rGO into polymeric matrixes. Artdeshine's Nano Graphene Coating is not termed ceramic because the percentages of SiO2 which the term "ceramic" came about is very low. Most of the components are silicone polymers that are cured to be softer and more flexible as compared to hard like you noticed in the applicator cloth. Hardness does not determine how durable or abrasion resistant the product can be (Artdeshine does make hard ceramic coatings too). Abrasion resistance mostly comes from how much friction is produced by the surface, more sleek less friction less chances of marring. More about why rGO is used in the product. It is a fact that rGO helps with anti-corrosion and in the polymeric matrix it has shown capabilities in IR transmission tests to lower IR absorbance. This is an indicator of lower thermal absorption which we know heat is a very strong catalyst in chemical reactions with contaminants that causes etching.
Excellent in-depth video ✊I have used many ceramic coatings and Graphene ceramic coatings.The different I noticed in Graphene vs ceramic is the gloss is a lot better. I have been using Adams Graphene ceramic coating and it holds up pretty well so far.The price is great and my customers like the results and the gloss.They don’t realize that they have to maintain it.They think they don’t have to wash it.🤷🏼♂️
I certainly agree that the graphene side did not really stop water spotting. If you freeze the video and look at the dry panel after the pre-soak at 10:18 and look where the top spot lights are on the panel on each side there is definitely still significant water spots. Then if you freeze the video and look at the dried panel again at 10:50 after the contact wash in the same 2 spot light areas there appears to be significantly less spots remaining on the graphene side than on the ceramic side.
Lovely work Sandro. Very impressed with how extensive the testing was. Still looking forward to a comparison between EVO and UK3. Took my first step towards a ceramic coating on my vehicle with NV Glass. Was so impressed with the ease of application. Now need to decide on which coating for the paint 🤔. Keep up the excellent work, love this channel.
HI Sandro. Good review mate. You are years ahead the other in the industry. At least Forensic and Pan looks like kid garden kids compare to you. I am a great fan of yours advices and technique. Even so the test might be a bit unfair as Cquartz is already at version 3 which means has great improvement and Artdeshine is a bit younger and only version 1 if i am not wrong. As well, I did not thick Artdeshine was projected as product to be left unwashed for a month. Would be fair to compare same version of the products. I am afraid you will not like me anymore when I say that your video might impact the development of the graphene as you criticise the product, the sale will drop and will be a lack of development. We should all participate to encourage the product especially for Artdeshine which I have seen is making efforts to deliver beter products. Personally I will buy their product and send them the feedback so the next version will be beter. Is a win win for all of us. Give a fair chance to other product not only Carpro. As well you seems to be revenging for the price you bought and maybe no free item and made a video against it. Influencers are all the same
Everyone should be able to voice their opinion and as long as the comments are respectful I’m happy for you to voice yours and I’m certainly not going to start disliking you because we have potentially diverse view points. There’s no possible set of tests I could do that wouldn’t make everyone happy, try making and posting a video yourself and you will see that when some people don’t like the results they then like to dismiss or question your process or even integrity. Just say Artdeshine did amazingly well in this review, would you have had the same reaction and questioned the testing methods the same way? If you’re being honest the answer is no. It would be so much easier for me to do some half arsed testing and just jump on board, but is that what you really want? And is that why you watch my videos? I understand that you’re a fan of Artdeshine and I saw some great performances and potential there. Yes the testing was extreme, but it was equally extreme for all the coatings. I’m a fan of new detailing technology, but if you just praise and accept what your told about a newer technology rather than test it out and question it for yourself, that helps no one and actually hurts it in the long run.
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing Indeed I am a fan of ADS and to a fairness. If is not much to ask maybe you can repeat the test when they release the improved version of the product ? I am a fan as well of new technology and I am keen for development and graphene have a great potential to use it for the future.
1) The Artdeshine NGC is a single layer coating system. A second layer will not stick. 2) Artdeshine provide a level that is a life saver! 3) Insider trick is you can prime your application pad or the paint with the Artdeshine Graphene Detailers for a much easier application. Key here is a light priming with the detailer. NOTE: Point 1 and 2 are public info and provided by Artdeshine. #3 is insider. Also remember you are comparing a flagship professional coating to a customer level. Pro coatings are normally much less forgiving in the installs.
Thanks Sandro. I had suspected that the car care industry had jumped the shark with Graphene and from your review the price / performance and ease of use just isn't there. Maybe that will change, but in the meantime we shouldn't reward these organisations with our money until the product is better, cheaper; or both better and cheaper.
Buy some graphite lock lubricant in a hardware store. Spread the powder on a clean glass surface. Use another piece of glass or razor blade to really force it on. See if it’s hydrophobic compared to untreated glass.
Hi Sandro, appreciate the time you put in in performing these tests and the video editing to present these reviews. As you highlighted, Graphene coatings are still relatively new, and I'm still wanting to learn more about graphene, whether through this type of testing and review or from interviews from the chemist belonging to companies that either create their own graphene coating inhouse or outside companies that blend the product. If you had not already seen on Pan the Organiser channel, he has presented 2 videos in the past week with the chemists from Golden Eagle (303) and B&B Blending both in the USA, on what graphene coating is and its behaviour. Thanks again.
I have tried the Artdeshine products and are amazing. I am surprised about this video that NGC to be on 2nd place. ADS is above the Carpro quality wise. Maybe you had an item with issue? I would say to test one more time
Q: Sandro, after all those hits of car pro's multi x degressor, ( on the water spotted panels did the water spots go away ? So Nova Pro sealant is the way to go really if applied to clean second and IPA wipe down painted surfaces or CQUARTZ between the two really, but if nova pro sealant is getting past at least 4 hits of car pro's multi x degressor NEAT as well, then that's one strong bonding agent, cheers Sandro mate your uplouds and reviews outshines everyone else's on youtube barr none full stop. ✔✔✔✔✔🏎✌👍👌🙌😊
Graphene coat finally looks darker deeper paint and tighter beads. Definitely a lot better product. However I don’t use this brand but I will agree that graphene is hard to put on and takeoff it is grabby but it does produce a very slick finish you can also follow that up with a garphene spray sealant. For Ultimate slickness and hydrophobia.
Great and interesting video Sandro. So I have to ask; as one of the main reasons to go to so much prep and trouble when applying a coating is to provide the best protection plus looks for your car's paint, how come water spots are such big problems???? I spent so much time polishing and prepping my Astra for the Nova Evo which made the car truly pop in the looks department. However, after those terrible dust storms/ bushfires we had in my home town last year, even after seven days curing time for Evo, I ended up with water spots like you showed in some parts of the car which I was surprised to see had become etchings!!!! The whole point of using a Coating was to prevent this which is why I thought they were way ahead of waxes and/or sealants. So what is the best coating for stopping environmental water spotting or is this just not possible???? I ended up having to do light compounding to remove the really bad water spots. I did have success with Car Pro water spot remover and NV that you used. I also ended up using some lusture and Jets over the top to hopefully increase the Evo's resistance to future water spotting but I could not believe how easy it was to bugger the coatings as you illustrated. And that is why I thought Graphine was this new silver bullet designed to stop this problem. Anyway I was certainly a bit disapointed with what happened to my car's coating.
Visually, there’s no wax, sealant or coating on the market that can prevent water spots, so it’s definitely an issue. But you will find that a quality coating will stop those water spots from etching passed it into the paint, but you just can’t stop the coating itself from being etched. So there’s still a great benefit in that a coating will save your clear coat from an etching, or at least within reason, but it doesn’t solve the the visual problem of water spots.
Great video Sandro. The only interest I’ve ever had with a graphene coating over a ceramic coating was because it is supposedly better with water spotting issues. As you and many other TH-camrs have shown, the claims are just not accurate at this time with any of the brands I have seen tested. I’ll continue to hold off until claims are proven accurate.
Great balanced review. However I think Graphene only needs to have the smallest of advantages to overtake Ceramic coatings despite cost. The slight immediate slickness and hydrophobic properties advantage you demonstrated would be enough for me to choose Graphene. Also there is the very slight advantage of a little less water spotting..
Our comments: 1) we always recommend apply two layers 2) about application : we got better results with this way of application : apply - buff dry towel (not damp towel like a first buff)- buff damp towel - buff dry towel 3)about water spots: your test is extreme and are not in the world any coatings that can resist stains like yours. But water spots which we have problem in classic daily car, than ADS NGC offer a lot of % better effect like ceramic coat, see our test: th-cam.com/video/iV4OK2B_zI0/w-d-xo.html 4) you use first version NGC , actually version i better to apply and better chemical resist [sorry about my English ]
Thanks for sharing and I think it would be great to put those recommendations and instructions in the box to guide the user to the best possible results, but like I mentioned in the video I did several diverse tests off camera before making the video which is what I based my conclusions on.
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing NGC is coating dedicated to acredited instalers and all acredited installers everyone should be trained in application and theory , and they no need instructions in box but in actually version v2 in box ADS added application brochure and product characteristics .
Thanks Sandro for doing this! I have recently coated med SQ5 with Artdeshine Nano Graphene. I put leveling, Nano Graphene, Nano Graphene (two layers) and ended with leveling. Yes it is harder to apply but I thought it was ok with dry, wet, dry cloth method. The gloss, slickness,waterbeading, look are really good and now we have to see how it holds up. The second layer was easier to apply and I also have the detailer to take care of it. I will be a interesting test over time. Whats is you top three coatings? (Also combined ones as cquk uk+bliss or Myabi+ism or so).
Graphene coating is ceramic coating with a little bit of graphene powder mixed in to turn it dark in color but physically does nothing, your just getting the results of the ceramic coating, maybe they will get better over time, but the platelets don’t line up or do what their supposed to do at a nano level...yet
Hey guy's, just wanted to add a note here that the ArtDeShine graphene coating used in this video is now about two formulations old and according to the brand's reps and other users/reviews the current formula is much improved which I think is great to hear. New technology always has a learning curve and I'm appreciative of brands that take that leap to help further the detailing community and all the amazing products at our disposal.
This is the only detailing channel I know that performs tests and comparisons comprehensively and factors in every possible case scenario. From the user experience up to the proper curing time, real life tests under Aussie conditions, chemical resistance tests, multiple test panels with different layers and configurations, logical explanations and unbiased opinions, etc. and many more that other channels don't do. We really appreciate your hardwork, Sandro. We love you man, I'm your number 1 fan here in the PH. Thank you for this video.
I agree. This channel is my favorite out of all the many others.
Before I watch I’m so happy , I really do respect you and for me you my role model in this business.
Well knowing that it is three times the cost of a known, easy to use, durable, and beautiful ceramic coating, I strain to see the value. 3.0 is on my friend's car and he absolutely loves it. And his paint work is quite nice. Thank you for another great and thorough comparison.
Another masterpiece Sandro! Perfect visuals, concise conclusions based on observable factors, awesome editing to pull everything together for the viewers. Thanks for sharing your extensive testing and experience with these coatings, and packaging it all together so seamlessly so that we can observe exactly what you are. Your work is truly invaluable to the community.
Thank you, it’s really kind of you say and much appreciated!
WaxMode and this channel are the top two when it comes to this content 👏🏽
ease of application is something i really need....i live in a very very very humid and hot environment in south florida...and even easy to apply ceramics flash very fast....so theres no way im touching this graphine.....ill happily stick with car pro cquarks uk 3.0....love the results.....love the gloss and hydrophobics....plus a brand that stands behind their product.
This was the first real side by side review I came to and you did a fantastic job. Thanks for being so neutral and thorough!
Sandro great review the best level headed real world opinion on the internet. Thanks for your great review.
It will be interesting to see how the technology develops, if it's as good as CQuartz UK 3.0 from the start, imagine when graphene matures as SIO2 did, the coatings will be awesome
Me too, and time always tells!
I am actually very disappointed in how this Graphene coating performed since UK has been out for a while now. It kind of tells me they still have a very long ways to go since it’s not even out performing UK. Since technology has changed a lot expected no excuses from Graphene type coating and my guess is they really didn’t do much in depth testing before releasing it. They need car craft to do their testing for them.
Sandro, this is the best comparison video between graphene and ceramic based coatings with great background music.
Background music was 💯
This is the best, most honest description of these graphene coatings that I have seen to date. For that reason, I have subscribed.
So, my decision? First, I will not be buying Artedeshine due to its application difficulty. I also feel that it is overpriced. Second, until the graphene coatings industry improves their delivery medium, I will not be using any of their products. I'll just have to wait for the chemists to figure it all out.
This honest detailer helped me make those decisions.
Thank you, sir. Well done.👍
Great test & review, thank you. I just did my first graphene, with Adam's Graphene Ceramic. It does flash very quickly like the ArtDeShine but it was not difficult to level out, even if it dried a bit. The gloss and slickness and hydrphobics are impressive, and if it's no better than a consumer-grade ceramic, that's ok by me as I picked it up for $69; not much of a premium over most ceramics. If it performs better, great.
Tricky application but outstanding results. Uncommonly slick - can confirm. Art
De Shine looks like a performance coating to me but we will keep an eye on it .Love both products
Had to check my box with Artdeshine as you said any instruction wasn’t in yours?
In my box from Artdeshine
I also had the copper Artdeshine Nano Graphene card, some stickers BUT also a instruction book how to apply the coating.
In it the instruction was application guide, curing, usage/storage.
The instruction was easy to understand and follow.
Sandro, thank you for your time, effort and candor here...your industry conclusions are spot on.
Great thanks for time, own products, samples and the great job! Nice to see the result Sandro and have the correct information about the product and comparison!
I sincerely appreciate your commentary and thorough review here. I know graphene is not ready yet and I am happy that we can find your reliable and insightful take on it. People are just impatient in general and it's truly difficult to know, when the next graphene-oxide coating releases, if it's matured and actually superior.
Thanks for your efforts on testing these for us and honest opinions.
Your reviews are second to none. Keep up the great work.
I agree you cant go wrong with the ck . Bang for buck is just where it will be at for some people unless your a pro.
Wow man! Your comparisons and tests are at another level. Amazing!
Absolute beast of a video Sandro! That ending, Nv Pro doing its magic!
Hurry up Melbourne and open your borders so I can come do a NV certified class with you Sandro!
Very good, glad you’ve exposed the water spot performance between these two. Thanks Sandro, another worthy vid! You and others are helping these manufacturers to recognize the consumer worth of their products, or better, to improve their products further to match the premium price.
Also ... great sound track!
how are you not more popular than some of the other detail channels!? Your comparisons are concise and on another level compared to more 'popular' channels such as Pan and Apex detailing
I've been looking into Art Deshines line up of coatings for my Grand Cherokee. I'd get the whole meal deal with the Graphine, wheel coating, leather coating, and glass coating
Thank you for taking out all bs and marketing Sandro. To me this is the best channel for detailing and true user experience and level of skills. As a non professional i learn the most from you💎keep the shine going on💎
Nice job, Sandro. Definitely made me happy I chose UK 3.0 to coat my car with a few months ago. I find that UK 3.0 topped with Gliss V2 is plenty slick and works great.
Really good video. I have been looking at the NV EVO hybrid coating and it also uses graphene but it gets so many good reviews.
I was really looking forward for this video since I saw the existence of graphene coatings. You are the man, greeting from Mexico.
Great video as always Sandro. I don’t know how an RRP of $280 can be justified based on your results, but I guess that’s what “boutique” brands do - nice packaging, slick marketing, large price tag!
Thanks for the video. Your results chemically line up with my testing of SPS graphene over the course of a year against other ceramics I clouding Cquartz UK 3.0. The initial performance is great but just as you noted once that shield is pierced it degrades rather quickly. We shall share if graphene has the staging power or if it will just be a fad.
Thanks Mike, I appreciate you sharing you’re own experience and results as well!
I believe the biggest difference in expectations between the graphene ceramic coatings and the previous SiO2 coatings is that the graphene ceramic coatings are supposed to retain less dust due to its anti-static properties and to keep the car's paint / surfaces at a cooler temperature, which would obviously be better to protect cars in hotter climates. The hydrophobic qualities and gloss factor are essentially the same. I've used Adam's Graphene Spray coating and Adam's Ceramic Boost spray coating, and performance wise they are nearly identical. Just like with any other detailing job, it's more about the prep work with the wash, decontamination, clay bar, and paint correction prior to applying the coating.
As always, best in the business Sandro! True honest results 👍🏼
I been detailing cars for the past 12 years now. False marketing is the main issue here. Over hyped product strength and false promises lead to customer’s disappointment and lost trust. I have tested almost 50 different brands of ceramic coating throughout the years but to be honest non of it come close to what they describe. End of the day whatsoever technology that you use it’s not permanent solutions! The car owner need to take some responsibility to maintain their vehicle. As a Detailer you have to be sincere to your customers whenever you presenting the solutions.
Hooray, the truth be told! Well done Sandro, I never doubted the results from the start. Excellent vid mate👌👌
Bro I'm soo thankful that I found your channel, im going to learn everything I can from you because I want to start a side hustle on the weekends and free time and your advise and experience will start my business at a high level. Thank you for taking the time to test the products you use and make these videos.
I really enjoyed the information and comparison you provided. It seems that everyone is testing their coatings, whether it be graphene or ceramic, based on gloss enhancement, chemical resistance and of course ease of use. Part of the benefits touted by these products is the resistance to swirls and light scratches. Has anyone devised a test for this? It would be great to add to the testing process when comparing products, but I’ve never seen anyone do this. Keep up the top notch work!
as always simple & straight to the point, you just make detailing simple/easy & fun to do even for an enthusiastic like my self
Fantastic footage. Very solid review...very impressed.
this is why i love your videos so much, your are not full of **** as others youtubers are about graphene just for the views. Thank you.
Hello Sandro, super glad to see you got your comment replies back. That was thousands of comments. Got a few questions if you don't mind.
1 - From my research NV Snow is the only wash I know of that is ph neutral with no gloss enhancers or wax. Its currently out of stock in the usa. Do know of any alternatives?
2 - My car is now ceramic coated (cquartz) and i'm considering using a ceramic infused wash. The main thing going through my mind is whether using a ceramic wash on my glass (coated with nv glass ceramic) could mask the effectiveness of my glass coating. What do you opt for currently with maintaining ceramic coatings ( ph neutral washes, carpro reload, carpro reset, ect)
3 - After loosing my mind until 11pm cleaning interior glass, I generally feel that compared to nv clarity and a few other streak free cleaners nothing removes residue better than pure IPA. Have you had the same experience?
Thanks and my older comments are gone for good but I can still make new comments moving forward.
CarPro Reset has no enhancement additives and it’s also great maintenance wash for coated cars.
Ideally it’s really best to stick to pure car wash soaps as hydrophobic additive ones can mask the superior behaviour of your various coatings. I tend to use Nv Boost a lot and it really seems to play well with the paint and glass coatings with no issue but Elixir could also be another good option.
Cloths are also extremely important when cleaning glass, to make sure they are super clean and only used for glass but I personally have great success with Clarity and Eraser, but it you feel a straight IPA solution works best for you I’d just stick with it!
Sandro, your videos are not only very informative, but works of art.
Thank you for the video Sandro and yes I too emailed you asking your opinion on the graphene coating trend couple months back. I guess they are still not upto the mark from the results in this video.
Also I really appreciate you compared it with Cquartz as it's my favorite coating for its value and performance.
Sandro this was an incredibly well thought out, researched, and superbly produced video, which I believe has become your signature trademark. You constantly and unswervingly share the basic and blunt truths of every product. You accomplish this with a very thorough explanation, that is well laid out courtesy of your systematic presentation. In the two years, I have been watching TH-cam channels, few, if any produce a more comprehensive testing scenario to match real-world conditions than you Sandro; period, end of the story.
My search to find the best coating to prevent or reduce the effect of water spots on non-garaged daily drivers over the last few months had finally convinced me to switch from Sio2 coatings to Graphene was from faulty conclusions I gained from believing the hype from all the manufactures and the youtube channels. But Brian at Apex and Brian at Chicago Auto Pros gave me pause when I watched their conclusions and now after watching yours, I feel that Sio2 coatings are still equal and in some ways still superior to Graphene and am sticking with Sio2. Granted graphene coatings have for the most part relied on TH-cam host's comments that showed graphene had better slickness, sheeted more than beaded, ease of application, and a better finish for the most part and only lately have some of the more credible hosts like yourself brought up the fact that a lot of the Sio2 coatings, after years of testing, have maturated to a point where they also have ease of application, high levels of slickness and some are even seeing sheeting. The conclusion that has been sold to us, is that Graphene is much better in reducing or preventing water spots and even if water spots appear, they can be more easily removed from a graphene product whereas we all know it can't be removed from a Sio2 coating. Your video has really helped me to stick with the Sio2 ceramic coatings and yes, CarPro CQuartz UK 3.0 is one of my favorites especially with Gliss on top of the UK 3.0.
Thank you.
Sandra, great video! I recently applied Art de Shine BX graphene coating and Maintenance coat. Both were very easy to apply and remove. It was a good experience. Apply, wait about 20 seconds, and wipe off with two microfiber, no wetting or leveling agent needed. The BX left a very slick surface. I applied a second coat 24 hrs later, then the Maintenance coat another 24 hours later. The Maintenance coat seems to have reduced the slickness slightly. The applicator cloth dried similar to your Nano cloth. I am looking forward to seeing how it holds up. Thank you for all of your great material!
Wow great level of detail in your tests and its so nice to get an unbiased review
Just subscribed 👍
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: “graphene” coatings are just high end ceramic coatings with an RGO additive just so they can slap graphene on the label and milk the hell out of the hype it’s been on for quite some time. If tech giants like Panasonic have been having trouble with the technology in its solid form even with their advanced facilities and manufacturing processes, what makes you think the detailing industry could just put it in a bottle in liquid form and have it be stable and apt for such a niche automotive use? It just doesn’t add up. It’s funny, if you’re objective/skeptical about this people get mad at you and/or call you a hater. MARKETING 101
Edit: small spelling error
There’s always a lot of strong opinions around anything new, but I appreciate you sharing you’re thoughts which everyone should be able to do!
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing Yeah, regardless I’m gonna try out the new graphene coating from Adams. I’m already bored and wanna polish my car again as it’s been 1 yr since I polished and put UK3.0 on it and it’s still performing like day 1. I believe the Ethos and Adams coatings are the same as I think they’re both blended by B&B but only the manufacturers know that. The adams coating seems to be SLIGHTLY more hydrophobic than CQUARTZ and I just like trying new products.
Let me know how you go!
You are right that reduced Graphene Oxide (rGO) is used as an additive in a silicone polymer or composite just as SiO2 or TiO2 is used the same way. These products are widely misunderstood as graphene, TiO2 or SiO2 based when really they are used as additives for enhancement of certain properties. Even more widely assumed is the coating is a "1 atom thick layer of graphene" which really isn't what Artdeshine is trying to make or market as that will not give us any beneficial function we need. That is what many electrical companies are doing as it gives them electrical conductivity and sensitivity. We need not that refinement of rGO or even pure graphene. And Artdeshine do know how to disperse rGO into polymeric matrixes.
Artdeshine's Nano Graphene Coating is not termed ceramic because the percentages of SiO2 which the term "ceramic" came about is very low. Most of the components are silicone polymers that are cured to be softer and more flexible as compared to hard like you noticed in the applicator cloth. Hardness does not determine how durable or abrasion resistant the product can be (Artdeshine does make hard ceramic coatings too). Abrasion resistance mostly comes from how much friction is produced by the surface, more sleek less friction less chances of marring.
More about why rGO is used in the product. It is a fact that rGO helps with anti-corrosion and in the polymeric matrix it has shown capabilities in IR transmission tests to lower IR absorbance. This is an indicator of lower thermal absorption which we know heat is a very strong catalyst in chemical reactions with contaminants that causes etching.
@@artdeshine7067 Thank you for your useful post :)
So in the end Sandro after a thorough going over with that chemical-the NV was unfazed and the ADS was totally gone!!
I think it’s time you tried ADS ‘s V111 ..easier to apply with the same if not better slickness,and appearance.Nice work Sandro.Thankyou
Great video again!
Such a comprehensive review!
I’ve been using Cquartz UK 3.0 for years now and it never fails to amaze me.
Always spot on, Sandro. No difference here. I will say that most of our customers have been requesting adams graphene, and it is a pleasant coating to work with.
Fantastic review Sandro. I have had a lot of clients request Adams graphene for their cars. At about $80 it is a good price point and results in gloss, hydrophobic abilities and slickness, it is hard to beat. I would love you to test it. Thanks!
nice... and I like the tune at the 16:40 mark...
Very detailed review. Thank you so much
just got home from coating my 205 gti at workplace on a weekend... i guess it's time to watch more detailing videos :D
Love the little Peugeot hot hatch, legendary car, can’t remember the last time I saw one!
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing mine is a '89 1,6... all original except for some weird 90's alarm system left by the previous owner.. wanted one since i was about 14 when i first saw some group b rally videos.. about 15 years later i finally got to buy one..definitely a keeper..
Yes keep it, they are so rare and iconic!
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing very much planning to.. living in Finland i only drive it in summer... as a daily driver i use a honda beat all year round :D
Nice work as always, great video, so much information, I really appreciate every single moment from your time, and to be fair you one of a few in the detailing world very honest and you not an advertising scam like some on TH-cam, you are a real teacher and professional detailer .
Regarding graphine vs ceramic you have chosen for test the most expencive graphine please use glassparency or adams graphine bouth maching ceramic coat price at list in USA.
Wouldn’t expect any less form Sandro to tell it how it is, great review as expected. Too many TH-cam detail channels surprisingly never have anything negative to say about these products, including unsubstantiated durability claims, simply to suck their subscribers in to use coupon codes for commission.
Hello there Sandro, first I want to tell you how much I love your videos. Second, can I get a recommendation on a good water spot remover? Can you please make a video? Thanks and I hope you and the family stay safe and healthy.
I appreciate it mate and hope you and your family are also doing well!
I’ll try and do a video on it in the future, but the one I used in the video is great, and CarPro also updated the formula of Spotless recently and it also seems to work so much better.
Graphene will definitely be the next hype marketing product. Adams is advertising their’s heavily. 303 also came out with a spray on, wipe off, graphene coating and it’s already sold out.
Thanks for the hard work Sandro! Guess we should really pay attention when CarPro, Gyeon and Gtechniq start pumping graphene products. A Gtechniq higher up is part of a detailing Facebook group I’m in and he claims they’ve tried messing with graphene but unable to produce anything better than what they offer.
@El Stormbringer honestly Sandro is the only detailer I’ve watched on TH-cam that I trust to review products. I watched that Apex detail video and when I saw him apply the spray to a car that was already fully corrected and coated I shut that shit off.
@El Stormbringer to be fair, that was the Zymol graphene spray that failed after the first wash test.
Brian’s review of the 303 graphene spray received a passing grade though.
@El Stormbringer that wasn't the 303 brand graphene spray coating, it was the zymol brand.
Well done, yet again, Sandro. You're the only detail reviewer that I can trust, that doesn't bow to promo code providing commission getting, nor afraid of telling people the way a product is and fuck the manufacturer's feelings. Having said that, I don't know your background or affiliation to Waxit, but I notice there seem to be a bit of Nv product promo here and in many other of your videos, and some footage I've seen of you seems to be done at the Waxit premises (correct me if I'm completely wrong here). So I feel there is a little bit of vested interest there. Having said that, I do see the Nv range as bloody brilliant and haven't been able to fault their products. Thanks again, for an informative video, mate.
Thanks, and discuss my detailing journey and relationship with waxit in the tour of the shop video below if you’re interested
th-cam.com/video/MLz8bOZK_AE/w-d-xo.html
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing Thank you mate, and that was an awesome and humbling video where you open up to your followers. I wish you nothing but success, Sandro. Like you, I've used Waxit for many years and can't wait until Melbourne is opened up so I can drive there and pick stuff up, instead of getting it delivered! In fact I just got 4L of Snow+ delivered today. Looking forward to your next videos mate.
Great video. Nice tests. I have Mayvinci C16 ceramic coating on the side panels of my car AMG E55K for 2 years now. I had Carpro Quarts UK 3 on the bonnet, roof and boot. The Quarts lasted 8 months. The Mayvinci is still performing like day 1. I now have Ethos Graphene Matrix Coating on the bonnet, roof and boot. Like your test the Graphene seems to be behaving better with the water than the Quarts as it's early days. The graphene appears to be performing similar to my Mayvinci coat but seems a little better than than the Mayvinci in the beading and I had no water spots after rain. The rain was mixed with ash as we had back burning. The Mayvinci cost me 500 aud dollars. The Graphene 160 AUD. I did it this way to see which product outlasts each other as the Graphene is supposed to last for five years and the Mayvinci 3 years. Time consuming test but it will tell the truth.
Sandro, great video. Excellent comparison. If you haven't seen it yet check out Chicago Auto Pro's in depth review on the technology and chemistry of graphene coatings. Confirms everything you have said. Interesting stuff.
Really in depth video, thanks for the info.
Great review at the perfect time... Thanks for this.
Just caught this video on my feed and very good and interesting video. There are a few Graphene coating now like Adam's and the ones on this video. There is also one i seen Pan post which is Roar Coatings and they seem to do things different which has me interested.
Graphene has not really taken off too much yet will be interesting to see 5 or 10 years from now if that changes
Good video. ADS doesn’t recommend 2 coats. While it is more finicky to apply n remove, once you get the hang of it, it’s a great coating. The directions came in my box but are a bit confusing. You can go directly to their page on FB and ask any questions you have though and get fantastic answers to help you. They do also have different coatings with different levels of shine, chemical resistance, or ease of applications as well. I really like ADS products and think you definitely get what u pay for. Thanks for the video!!! It’s a good one!!!
I appreciate the info and that’s great that they have support for users on FB.
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing ohh, and the NGC you used in the video is V1. They have a V2 now, that is easier to use and more chemical resistant. Good day my friend
Great to hear and I think there great potential there!
27:53 sheeting so good.
I heard Carpro is going to release a bunch of new products soon,like lift the brand new prewash snow foam and the other exting new products,I can't wait to see your new videos about those new products!
Sandro I’ve been watching your videos for a few years and maybe I’ve missed it but have you done an “ultimate” video?
if you had the time what you would do to a car to make it have the highest level of correction and shine possible? I mean your prized detail that would stand out well above any other job you’ve ever done. I think that would be an amazing video series using as many techniques and tips and tricks as possible. 😁 thank you for everything you do. People in my area think I do amazing work but if they saw what you do, they would laugh at me...lol
Thanks mate, I guess the four part series I did on the Nissan Skyline GTR would be close to the ultimate detail, but every car has its limitations depending on the existing paint and overall condition so it’s always a case by case scenario!
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing I do love that series. I guess I’ll watch that again. Lol. I just finished a battered corvette where the lady cried when she saw the results. It’s all thanks to you! It wasn’t perfect but I guess most detailers are never satisfied with their results. There is always something else that can be done..
I’d say if you brought someone to tears you did a pretty awesome job, and that’s all you!
Great video... Keep up the good work sir 👍
Hey Sandro!
Graphene someday may be the King of the hill....but not today! 😎 Like you said, some manufacturers are rushing to get a product out there that has the buzz word Graphene on it. That’s a label and level that has to be backed up with ‘High End’ results to withstand the scrutiny that YOU will put it through. 😂 If they would have came out and said this product was a ‘top of the line’ si02 coating it still wouldn’t have took top shelf. 🤔
1) Anything NV
2) Anything CarPro
3) Does it matter...😁
Great video Sandro! Appreciate you and your thorough knowledge of all things detailed 💯💯 Good day mate!
Thanks Chad!
Fantastic and absolutely spot on. I hope the hype train stops at CCAD Station so that everyone can get off and get educated!
you should try the v3 nano graphene from artdeshine.. I love it
Amazing video mate. So much useful information. Thank you so much for this!
I agree with you the technology is just not there yet. True graphene is very expensive and is only one atom thick. These new products are (in my opinion)are graphene oxide mixed with a carrier or transfer solution. So basically a ceramic coating with some graphene oxide mixed in.
You probably watched Chicago auto pros
@@williambrewer855 I watched that one as well as several others including ethos, adams and ammo nyc. Also the typical google search. What’s your opinion on graphene?
You are right that reduced Graphene Oxide (rGO) is used as an additive in a silicone polymer or composite just as SiO2 or TiO2 is used the same way. These products are widely misunderstood as graphene, TiO2 or SiO2 based when really they are used as additives for enhancement of certain properties. Even more widely assumed is the coating is a "1 atom thick layer of graphene" which really isn't what Artdeshine is trying to make or market as that will not give us any beneficial function we need. That is what many electrical companies are doing as it gives them electrical conductivity and sensitivity. We need not that refinement of rGO or even pure graphene. And Artdeshine do know how to disperse rGO into polymeric matrixes.
Artdeshine's Nano Graphene Coating is not termed ceramic because the percentages of SiO2 which the term "ceramic" came about is very low. Most of the components are silicone polymers that are cured to be softer and more flexible as compared to hard like you noticed in the applicator cloth. Hardness does not determine how durable or abrasion resistant the product can be (Artdeshine does make hard ceramic coatings too). Abrasion resistance mostly comes from how much friction is produced by the surface, more sleek less friction less chances of marring.
More about why rGO is used in the product. It is a fact that rGO helps with anti-corrosion and in the polymeric matrix it has shown capabilities in IR transmission tests to lower IR absorbance. This is an indicator of lower thermal absorption which we know heat is a very strong catalyst in chemical reactions with contaminants that causes etching.
Excellent in-depth video ✊I have used many ceramic coatings and Graphene ceramic coatings.The different I noticed in Graphene vs ceramic is the gloss is a lot better. I have been using Adams Graphene ceramic coating and it holds up pretty well so far.The price is great and my customers like the results and the gloss.They don’t realize that they have to maintain it.They think they don’t have to wash it.🤷🏼♂️
I certainly agree that the graphene side did not really stop water spotting. If you freeze the video and look at the dry panel after the pre-soak at 10:18 and look where the top spot lights are on the panel on each side there is definitely still significant water spots. Then if you freeze the video and look at the dried panel again at 10:50 after the contact wash in the same 2 spot light areas there appears to be significantly less spots remaining on the graphene side than on the ceramic side.
Lovely work Sandro. Very impressed with how extensive the testing was. Still looking forward to a comparison between EVO and UK3. Took my first step towards a ceramic coating on my vehicle with NV Glass. Was so impressed with the ease of application. Now need to decide on which coating for the paint 🤔. Keep up the excellent work, love this channel.
Great video Sandro!
oh wow! I asked you if you would do a review like this and i completely forgot about it! Thanks heaps sandro!!
Excellent information on testing as always. Thanks for sharing your insights.
HI Sandro. Good review mate. You are years ahead the other in the industry. At least Forensic and Pan looks like kid garden kids compare to you. I am a great fan of yours advices and technique. Even so the test might be a bit unfair as Cquartz is already at version 3 which means has great improvement and Artdeshine is a bit younger and only version 1 if i am not wrong. As well, I did not thick Artdeshine was projected as product to be left unwashed for a month. Would be fair to compare same version of the products.
I am afraid you will not like me anymore when I say that your video might impact the development of the graphene as you criticise the product, the sale will drop and will be a lack of development. We should all participate to encourage the product especially for Artdeshine which I have seen is making efforts to deliver beter products. Personally I will buy their product and send them the feedback so the next version will be beter. Is a win win for all of us. Give a fair chance to other product not only Carpro. As well you seems to be revenging for the price you bought and maybe no free item and made a video against it. Influencers are all the same
Everyone should be able to voice their opinion and as long as the comments are respectful I’m happy for you to voice yours and I’m certainly not going to start disliking you because we have potentially diverse view points.
There’s no possible set of tests I could do that wouldn’t make everyone happy, try making and posting a video yourself and you will see that when some people don’t like the results they then like to dismiss or question your process or even integrity.
Just say Artdeshine did amazingly well in this review, would you have had the same reaction and questioned the testing methods the same way? If you’re being honest the answer is no.
It would be so much easier for me to do some half arsed testing and just jump on board, but is that what you really want? And is that why you watch my videos?
I understand that you’re a fan of Artdeshine and I saw some great performances and potential there. Yes the testing was extreme, but it was equally extreme for all the coatings.
I’m a fan of new detailing technology, but if you just praise and accept what your told about a newer technology rather than test it out and question it for yourself, that helps no one and actually hurts it in the long run.
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing Indeed I am a fan of ADS and to a fairness. If is not much to ask maybe you can repeat the test when they release the improved version of the product ? I am a fan as well of new technology and I am keen for development and graphene have a great potential to use it for the future.
1) The Artdeshine NGC is a single layer coating system. A second layer will not stick. 2) Artdeshine provide a level that is a life saver! 3) Insider trick is you can prime your application pad or the paint with the Artdeshine Graphene Detailers for a much easier application. Key here is a light priming with the detailer. NOTE: Point 1 and 2 are public info and provided by Artdeshine. #3 is insider. Also remember you are comparing a flagship professional coating to a customer level. Pro coatings are normally much less forgiving in the installs.
Thanks Sandro. I had suspected that the car care industry had jumped the shark with Graphene and from your review the price / performance and ease of use just isn't there. Maybe that will change, but in the meantime we shouldn't reward these organisations with our money until the product is better, cheaper; or both better and cheaper.
Buy some graphite lock lubricant in a hardware store. Spread the powder on a clean glass surface. Use another piece of glass or razor blade to really force it on. See if it’s hydrophobic compared to untreated glass.
Good job in explaining, thank you
Hi Sandro, appreciate the time you put in in performing these tests and the video editing to present these reviews. As you highlighted, Graphene coatings are still relatively new, and I'm still wanting to learn more about graphene, whether through this type of testing and review or from interviews from the chemist belonging to companies that either create their own graphene coating inhouse or outside companies that blend the product. If you had not already seen on Pan the Organiser channel, he has presented 2 videos in the past week with the chemists from Golden Eagle (303) and B&B Blending both in the USA, on what graphene coating is and its behaviour. Thanks again.
I have tried the Artdeshine products and are amazing. I am surprised about this video that NGC to be on 2nd place. ADS is above the Carpro quality wise. Maybe you had an item with issue? I would say to test one more time
Would love to see you try Tershine products. If you can get them.
Another great video.
Q: Sandro, after all those hits of car pro's multi x degressor, ( on the water spotted panels did the water spots go away ?
So Nova Pro sealant is the way to go really if applied to clean second and IPA wipe down painted surfaces or CQUARTZ between the two really, but if nova pro sealant is getting past at least 4 hits of car pro's multi x degressor NEAT as well, then that's one strong bonding agent, cheers Sandro mate your uplouds and reviews outshines everyone else's on youtube barr none full stop. ✔✔✔✔✔🏎✌👍👌🙌😊
No, unfortunately chemicals won’t remove them
Very good video, especially your personal opinion and observations in the end! Much needed real talk!
Graphene coat finally looks darker deeper paint and tighter beads. Definitely a lot better product. However I don’t use this brand but I will agree that graphene is hard to put on and takeoff it is grabby but it does produce a very slick finish you can also follow that up with a garphene spray sealant. For Ultimate slickness and hydrophobia.
Great and interesting video Sandro. So I have to ask; as one of the main reasons to go to so much prep and trouble when applying a coating is to provide the best protection plus looks for your car's paint, how come water spots are such big problems???? I spent so much time polishing and prepping my Astra for the Nova Evo which made the car truly pop in the looks department. However, after those terrible dust storms/ bushfires we had in my home town last year, even after seven days curing time for Evo, I ended up with water spots like you showed in some parts of the car which I was surprised to see had become etchings!!!! The whole point of using a Coating was to prevent this which is why I thought they were way ahead of waxes and/or sealants. So what is the best coating for stopping environmental water spotting or is this just not possible???? I ended up having to do light compounding to remove the really bad water spots. I did have success with Car Pro water spot remover and NV that you used. I also ended up using some lusture and Jets over the top to hopefully increase the Evo's resistance to future water spotting but I could not believe how easy it was to bugger the coatings as you illustrated. And that is why I thought Graphine was this new silver bullet designed to stop this problem. Anyway I was certainly a bit disapointed with what happened to my car's coating.
Visually, there’s no wax, sealant or coating on the market that can prevent water spots, so it’s definitely an issue. But you will find that a quality coating will stop those water spots from etching passed it into the paint, but you just can’t stop the coating itself from being etched. So there’s still a great benefit in that a coating will save your clear coat from an etching, or at least within reason, but it doesn’t solve the the visual problem of water spots.
Great video Sandro. The only interest I’ve ever had with a graphene coating over a ceramic coating was because it is supposedly better with water spotting issues. As you and many other TH-camrs have shown, the claims are just not accurate at this time with any of the brands I have seen tested. I’ll continue to hold off until claims are proven accurate.
Great balanced review. However I think Graphene only needs to have the smallest of advantages to overtake Ceramic coatings despite cost. The slight immediate slickness and hydrophobic properties advantage you demonstrated would be enough for me to choose Graphene. Also there is the very slight advantage of a little less water spotting..
Our comments: 1) we always recommend apply two layers 2) about application : we got better results with this way of application : apply - buff dry towel (not damp towel like a first buff)- buff damp towel - buff dry towel 3)about water spots: your test is extreme and are not in the world any coatings that can resist stains like yours. But water spots which we have problem in classic daily car, than ADS NGC offer a lot of % better effect like ceramic coat, see our test: th-cam.com/video/iV4OK2B_zI0/w-d-xo.html 4) you use first version NGC , actually version i better to apply and better chemical resist [sorry about my English ]
Thanks for sharing and I think it would be great to put those recommendations and instructions in the box to guide the user to the best possible results, but like I mentioned in the video I did several diverse tests off camera before making the video which is what I based my conclusions on.
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing NGC is coating dedicated to acredited instalers and all acredited installers everyone should be trained in application and theory , and they no need instructions in box but in actually version v2 in box ADS added application brochure and product characteristics .
Thanks Sandro for doing this!
I have recently coated med SQ5 with Artdeshine Nano Graphene. I put leveling, Nano Graphene, Nano Graphene (two layers) and ended with leveling.
Yes it is harder to apply but I thought it was ok with dry, wet, dry cloth method.
The gloss, slickness,waterbeading, look are really good and now we have to see how it holds up. The second layer was easier to apply and I also have the detailer to take care of it.
I will be a interesting test over time.
Whats is you top three coatings?
(Also combined ones as cquk uk+bliss or Myabi+ism or so).
That’s great to hear, I personally use a lot of CQuartz and Nova coatings and their top coats/sealants and quick detailers as well.
Graphene coating is ceramic coating with a little bit of graphene powder mixed in to turn it dark in color but physically does nothing, your just getting the results of the ceramic coating, maybe they will get better over time, but the platelets don’t line up or do what their supposed to do at a nano level...yet
Great video. Would be awesome to see a completely untreated section of the paint and how that would've done too if possible for next time :)