Bob Toski & Jim Flick - A Swing for a Lifetime
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- Golf teaching legends Bob Toski ("The Mighty Mouse," he weighed 125 pounds yet could drive the ball 275 yards with a persimmon wood), and Jim Flick (coach to many great golfers, including the GOAT, Mr. Jack Nicklaus) show you how to achieve "A Swing for a Lifetime."
Pure gold, those old timers knew best, look how long the pros played with little or no injuries unlike today
How have I only found this now after 2 years of starting golf. This is absolutely gold, I don’t need anything more now.
This is all gold. So much junk content out there, but this is where it's at. Bob Toski was a genius.
This stuff is the gold standard. People are quick to move onto more current commentary but the truth is, so few people can swing with the athleticism of modern teaching. Trying to be a low single digit? Work on this stuff. This applies to 99% of golfers, if you’re in the 1% and want to talk separation...good for you. 15 handicaps aren’t doing this stuff.
yep right on the money J
Great point! I'm around a 20 handicap right now and I honestly feel if I just focus on these fundamentals I don't have to watch any other tutorials on TH-cam at all
DARN RIGHT! I’ve had his book “Flick On Golf”--last year, had the best year of golf ever-won some stuff in medal and match play tournaments! Love Toski too-you’re totally right J!
Where's the debate with Jimmy Ballard lol?
if you're new to golf this is where to start, a real gem.
By far the best golf video i have ever seen. wish i would have seen this years ago.
My very first instructional VCR tape 1985......I loved it then and I love it now. This is truly how to swing, there is no “secret” the next guru comes up with.
This without a doubt the best golf wing video ever made on how to swing a golf club.
Thoroughly enjoyed this production; a classic; has many basic golf swing fundamentals that golfers of any skill level can use in practice.
12 months ago I discovered Bob and Jim's book it was in my old uncle's attic sadly he passed away so the book came to me, published around 1985, at 70 I thought I was passed my best golf, my golf mates chuckled at my gift, until my handicap started to come down then beating guys 20 to 25 years younger than me and giving THEM shots I'm now (6.2)hcp there's an old saying "knowledge is power" "a swing for a life time" yep Jim and Bob thank you
Dude, please stop, I tried this and dam near killed two people in the next fairway. Golf is hard Period no matter what book you pick up, ask my wife, I read every book in the world and still can't figure her out. When I was a young ass hole with no fear she was chasing me!!! Get out there and hit ball, grab a beer, and shut the f**kup...
@@bnzstheboy6520 hey Buddy I shot scratch 71 at 70 years old you shut the fu*k p!
I have the book signed by Jim. Worked with him on a clinic at Spyglass Hill in the early 90's.
over the years i always go back to this tape when i need some help and inspiration for my golf.
One of the best swing fundamental, great explanation and easy to understand, thanks for posting
Very simple easy to understand explanation. Wonderful drills for getting that elusive swing.Thanks for sharing
The crux or heart of the golf swing explained in such an easy & comprehensible manner. Old id Gold👌🏻👍🏻.
Thank you gentlemen😊.
What a great, timeless video!
Its such a great video that explains everything about a Golf swing, luckily I had the whole set of These videos right from the start of My Golf life, and I was able to break 90 in three Months just by learning from These videos.
the majority of Golf teaching videos on TH-cam are miss leading and trying to get People to swing like If there is only one way to swing the club, whilist this video gives you all the fundamentals you need to know to swing a club, and believe me, in 20 minutes, These are all you need to know to play good golf.
Greatest golf instruction video ever.
A really helpful video for golf swing essentials, thanks for posting it.
My first book is by Bob Toski and Jim Flick. I go back to it, and with this video, to correct my swing error. Back to the fundamentals.
So inspired by the video I hunted out my old Toski books - ‘How to become a complete golfer’ and ‘How to feel a real golf swing’ for further review. Many thanks for putting this great video up.
Philip I have that book within three weeks I shot gross 73 my lowest ever in 30 years of playing the game a master piece of instruction
I had my epiphany moment out at Toski's range behind BCC hit an 8 iron what looked like 200 yards never been ever to repeat that feat since but at the time it was my 145 club. Now late 40's 15 years later 8 iron can get to 178 with PXG 0211 ST irons traditional lofts no tech but the steelfiber shaft and Jumbomax grip.
For my money, Toski's Touch System for Better Golf is the gold standard.
Such a pity that of all the millions of would-be golfers avidly following the modern gurus on TH-cam only 188 appear to have seen this video. In just over twenty minutes it clearly and concisely explains how to grip and swing a golf club properly. It's all you need. R.I.P Jim Flick.
I've made the Tee-to-ReTee Drill the foundation of every practice session, and I'm seeing great results. I've actually marked off four wedges with this simple little movement and can now hit very reliable pitches from 100 yards in. Great stuff. Thanks for commenting.
Well to be fair, it was just posted a few weeks ago.
@@brianmcg321 Watch what happens in a year, though. There'll be quite a few more people watching whoever the latest guru is.
You said it.
One problem is the misunderstanding of what these guys were saying. It's so often mischaracterized as "all arms, no body" or "arms 'lead' the swing" in the sense of running ahead of the body on the downswing. It's just not true at all, if you read everything Toski, Flick, et al. wrote.
@@parkersmithphoto Tom Watson used it regularly when he was coming up -- recommended by Stan Thirsk -- to become as good a ballstriker as anybody in the world by his 40s and 50s. It's worked for others, too. (You probably know all that. Just saying, in case anybody reading doesn't.)
Excellent, it gives you the contact of a shot swing.
Hogan does something similar, I am playing the great game for over 40 year's now ,and I got my handicap to 4..a great achievement for me.
My swing thoughts, hands arm's shoulders and hips. And the reverse on the way down...
Thank you. I am on the final stages of my Golf Journey PG..
Joe..
Been playing golf for over 30 years. I have asked every golf instructor I've ever been to "how should the golf swing feel?!" Not once did I get a satisfactory answer. Instead, all that was focused on was mechanics and positions (as 99.999% of them do).
This short 25 minute instructional video has answered that question for me finally. Oh how I wish I had this on VHS tape when I was younger. No wonder a lot of you here are saying this is pure gold. It genuinely is.
If anyone you know is interested in taking up golf, for the love of God don't let them go to a pro in the first instance. Get them to watch this video several times from 4mins 30secs on. They will thank you for it in the end.
I have now watched all the Jim Flick videos I could find on TH-cam and I have came up with this little mantra that for me sums up what he was trying to get across. Hopefully this might help some of you...
"SEND the ball to the target on an arc in a swinging motion with the proper release."
That's it. Simple right? :)
Happy golfing everyone. x
19:19 is an awesome drill. Pure swing motion. My Dad used to say your body gets out of the way of the swinging club.
Best golf swing Lesson EVERRRRRR!
Great old school content. It’s interesting that this detailed instruction is hardly ever taught today. Flick breaks it down, here’s how here’s why.
The very best I’ve seen very simple and very smooth. Thanks
i've been waiting to find this video on youtube. i bought it new in the 80's and had always referred to it. i still have it but no vcr and didn't know how to post it myself. thnx so much. old school teaching.
You bet, Steve!
Thank you for the best lesson of my life, as a golfer at the age of 72.
Parker Smith, thank you so much for taking the trouble to upload this video. I will take your advice on the Tee drill!
Dang never heard of this guy. His swing is flawless
Reacting to the target is a lost concept today. Love it.
Thank you so much for posting this excellent golf drill video
„The Club Must Swing“. If there is any key swing thought, this is it! But even here, body and arms move in harmony and the downswing starts from the ground upwards. The key is finding the right balance of arm and body motion, and keeping good rhythm and flow. Some people can do hands and arms better than the body😊, others the opposite. A good teacher recognizes that, and todays possibilities with slow motion video, 3d analytics etc help support it. But the key remains - the club must swing.
this is by far the best breakdown of a golf swing, and how each part contribute to the distance ball travels!
Thanks for putting up this video!
Awesome video I always go back to it. What I feel the key to Jim’s teaching is the club is the engine. So much of today’s teaching is using the body to position the club. Jim proves that all nonsense the weight and swinging of the golf club naturally positions the body to support the swinging of the club. That’s where rhythm and tempo are found those essential keys are hard to find in today’s teaching. Jim’s example and demonstration of the higher level players swing and the lesser players swing is priceless and so true you see it up and down the range. Unfortunately I’m leaning towards the latter but I’m gonna get it back thanks to this video
Thanks Jimmy and Bob.
This is the BEST, BEST, BEST progression of drills I have yet encountered. Thank you for posting this classic!
The "three swings": I worked on these this morning and was SHOCKED by the distance, trajectory, and aim of the ball with JUST wrists, then arms + wrists. In addition, I was experiencing a very nice high slight draw, something completely foreign to my swing history. At the end of the practice session I still was not really combining the pivot of the full swing with the first two progressions all that well, but it seems reasonable that this will take the most time. I think one takeaway is that my turn doesn't need to be as aggressive as I have been trying to accomplish lately. I'm going to work on tuning my backswing to the arms/wrists. Looking forward to working these drills in the coming weeks. Thanks again for posting this gem!
It's 11 months later, how did it all turn out for you?
@@FredCDobbs-er4qd In approximately the last 18 months I've used TH-cam to study: "Mike Austin swing" (various channels), Kirk Junge, Golfletics (Milo Lines), and SagutoGolf. The drills in this Jim Flick video and various other have been helpful. Personally, Kirk Junge's "setup for impact" combined with Milo Lines videos have been the most help to consistent, repeatable ball striking.
To answer your question directly: Index: 18-ish --> 10.2, Avg Drive: 230-ish --> 261 (the before numbers are approximations, the after numbers are official handicap, and as-recorded with S20/Garmin Golf)
Of course it has something to do with the driving range membership and practice time I put in, but anyone who practices needs to have something particular to work on, and the above sources have been central to my practice intentions.
@@richardjamieson9103 Thank you. Good luck.
Any updates you can share?
17:33 The dance of the golf swing...
A beautiful coordinated move....
Sneed said he learned through walt time..🎶
Great master class !!
wow old video, old instructor with such supple movement of the arms, those shoe's I would wear going to the dancing! Great video! Many thanks!
Thanks for posting, i will try this method more rely on hands and arms to swing rather to body, my hc stucked on 10 no more improvement
Best explanation of why to do the step drill ever. ❤
Thee Best Session on the Complete Golf Swing!!
Thanks for sharing. Excellent!
I love those drills "fantastic"
This is awesome ⛳.
Thank you very much!
This is fantastic. I’d picked up a copy of his book at our local dump which has an exchange. Thanks for posting. BTW looking on your channel saw a Fred Picker video. 28 yrs ago I went to a week long workshop in VT run by Fred which was great. Used to have a darkroom with a Beseler 23c and Zone VI cold light, compensating developing timer, now sadly gathering dust. He sold great B and W paper as well.
For many years I had started to believe I am going deaf. Thanks to this video, I have been assured I can still hear deafening loud squelching sounds.
I've used this for 40+ years. Still helps.
Where to start and where to return during times of trouble. Thankfully we have this and for free. How Great!
Such a different concept than what you see taught so much today, with the emphasis on creating lag and compressing the ball, and having a forward shaft lean at impact. It seems a much more natural and fluid way to swing a golf club. Prettier, too.
Exactly. Also much the same as Manuel De La Torre.
Greatest Lesson Ever!
HOW THE HELL IS THIS NOT THE MOST WATCHED VIDEO FOR GOLF INSTRUCTION
The problem is that every instructor is a genious in it's own right. They all kill the ball in any position and they all teach contradictory stuff... No single truth to this game I'm afraid...
It should be. I'm an old timer in my 70's and I never saw this before. It is the only book or video that shows you exactly what to do, why to do and how to do. It couldn't be any clearer. Oh, I almost forgot, it works too! Every other lesson is bs.
@e james unfortunately that's exactly what I did for years. You have to TURN! Well, actually, if you watch slo-mo of Sergio, his body doesn't really turn much, his arms simply drop down and strike the ball.
@@parkersmithphoto Also, if you look at most modern tour pros, they all have terrific “freedom of motion” in their arms and wrists. Obviously, a lot of these guys try to minimize wrist action, but they all have incredibly free hinges.
Wow! Over 340K views! This is the simplest, most direct, no frills explanation of the golf swing EVER! If this hits home with you, be sure to check out Mike Bender and Mike Malaska. Malaska was a protege of Flick and Toski; he and Bender both teach how the hands and arms control the swing, and the body responds.
I follow Mike, he often meantions Jim, and also Joe Nichols. 90% of amateurs would be better if they implemented this type of swing, instead of getting caught up with the modern buzz words, lag, hold the angle, rotation, and ground forces. Comment by a almost 70 years old, 3.8 handicap player, and so much easier on the body
Do you know where I can see the lesson Jim gives Phil Blackmar? He hits an 8 iron 100 yards in a feet together staggered stance. This was really good.
I just took this advice to the range and people were already complimenting my swing. I was hitting my irons the best I have in months.
I'm looking for a swing I can swing when I'm 80 and I think this is it. I'm 49 now, play off 9.4, and my swing is very demanding on my body, loads of rotation, it leaves me sore after I play. I tried this technique this morning and shot an 83. I'm very happy with that considering it's the first time I've tried it and I must have dropped 4 shots because my putting was cold. Thanks for sharing.
I remember this video from when I was learning golf. Went to a David Leadbetter style swing in the 90's and now back to a Sam Snead old school swing. Anybody reading this should stick with the old school swings they are much more consistent and less strain on the lower back.
Please check out Mike Malaska and subscribe to his site at MalaskaGolf.com. He was a protege of Toski and Flick and the clarity of his teaching is unsurpassed.
I totally agree! I love how he says the swinging of the club freely with the arms causes the shoulder turn. When I heard that my game improved dramatically
I still use the old Leadbetter (not A swing) style, or Faldo preset swing and works fine. Actually the only way I
can hit all my clubs consistently. Whatever works, stick with it.
Up to 72,000. Jim Flick was always my favorite instructor.
I think Jim is way ahead of Toski
vid might be old but the instruction is fresh and new, great instruction
Classic video !
I am really feeling old now. I remember when I was younger watching these segments on television. How the world of teaching has changed. Now it's a power game and if you want to keep up you have to utilize a body swing via Rory McElroy, Tiger Woods, et al.
True but for the average amateur golfer this type of swing will provide more than enough power and you won’t trash your back like all of these PGA pros
as of June 26, 2024 Bob Toski is STILL ALIVE. That KING turned pro in 1945. 45!!! God Bless'em.
Great teaching thanks
Just went back to the jim flick lesson for phil blackmar where he hits 8 irons 100 yards in a feet together stance. Phil Blackmar won two weeks in a row after the lesson. I just went two over for three rounds. I need to find that lesson.
This is brilliant
I have got to get this into my game!!!
Great tips ❤
Great swings!
Dr. Golf, John Jacobs taught the same classic, arms driven swing. The two-plane swing with the shoulders turning on a flatter angle than the arms, which are lifted to a higher plane during the swing. I think for senior golf, this is the better method to play. As Jim Hardy states in his great videos, The Plane Truth, the secret to this swing is timing, tempo, rythym, and balance. Thanks for making this available on TH-cam. I wish more John Jacobs instruction was, too.
@SuperTrader Mikey I agree. I have "battled" with both methods (now back to the more rotational swing, ala George Gankas). I like his Snead to Hogan analogy. Snead into the backswing and squat transition, Hogan extending through the ball and into the finish. Less clubface rotation. Fortunately, at age 74 I still can rotate, but I am not sure how much longer I will be able to so.
Hit them well, Mikey.
I saw Toski playing on senior tour in late 1980s. He couldn't have weighed more than 145 lbs but drove the ball about 260-270 yards. Toski gets all his power from arms, hands and shoulders. So did Jim Dent. Most players of this era swung this way. Not the modern pivot-driven swing that is ruining many backs and causes hooks. Jim Dent would easily be longest on tour today if he was using new equipment.
Compare the fluid motion of Phil Mickelson at 50+ or early Tiger Woods with the "bend and turn and grind" action of 2010 Tiger (under El Diablo Hank Haney), or Cameron Champ (26 and already has a bad back), or Bryson DeC. Look at Cam Champ at impact, his shoulder line is almost pointed at the ball. The shear force on the lower back is incredible. I'd bet my car that guy isn't playing past 30.
Brandel Chamblee wrote a great book about the classic swing, and remarked how many of those classic swingers stayed competitive well into their 50s.
Those brown footjoys were fire
I grew up with this instruction, and as has been pointed out, it requires tremendous reliance on timing and rhythm and maybe something else that has been overlooked.
What is interesting is how many mid to high handicappers think they can pass judgement on teaching styles.
I find that it requires far less technical thought compared to, for example, Jim Hardy's One Plane Swing, which I spent YEARS trying to learn. The less technical, the easier it is to find the rhythm and timing.
amazing content
Todays modern teaching is all mechanical. This video puts the SWING back in Golf, Very simple and easy to understand
I spent the better part of 20 years(!) bogged down in the "body swing" BS. Once you know what to look for (arms swing freely from the shoulders, shoulders passive and responsive to the arms) you can see it in every great swing. And you can also watch hackers at the range trying to muscle the ball with their shoulders. If you like this, be sure to check out Mike Malaska.
This more upright, less rotary, swing will get you hitting the ball higher, like Jack Nicklaus. This is great for most golfers, as they never get any ball height so they never get any distance. When was the last time you played and someone hit the ball too high with their irons? Probably never.
Hi, what do you mean about the iron “too high” comment?
@@chroniclesofahighhandicapp4467 some people "ballon" their iron shots, way too high and not enough forward.
parker, the tape of this i have was sponsered by jb scotch whiskey i think and had an ad at the end of the tape.
Jim flick uses the exact grip I do. The vardon grip i believe it's called, when you overlap, perfectly, the pinky finger over the index.
This is all just genious.
Best instructions
Flick taught a swing where the body reacts to and supports the arc of the arm swing.
Body centered swing is in vogue now, but it's very demanding on the body. It requires lots of strength and flexibility in the legs, hips and torso.
OTOH, you can generate a lot easy speed with this swing. The only criticism is that the release you use with this swing will have more face rotation through impact.
Notice how upright he stands, then lets the arms work down to release the club on the original shaft plane. There is a ton of power in this move. Most people wanting to learn a "rotational" swing have to get bent over and it's beyond their capabilities. Standing more upright and swinging the arms more up and down like a ferris wheel creates a lot of leverage. See, for example, Tom Watson, Al Geiberger, Nicklaus, etc.
@@parkersmithphoto I always felt this upright swing was more accurate and a better swing to teach juniors who don't have the strength to rotate that well. Just me though.
I’m not sure this swing is as upright as it appears. If the camera was set up behind him, you would see the rotational action of the swing better, the pivot as he calls it. In the chair drill his swing is obviously not upright. It’s entirely possible to apply everything he’s teaching here to a flat takeaway. He actually mentions in the video that for some students the backswing sequence would start more with a hip turn. That would produce a flatter takeaway I suppose.
i find if i kinda follow this and swing more with my hands, wrists and arms and the body follows and picks up on the action i can play in the low to mid 80's with an occasional high 70's game.
Mike Malaska was part of the teaching stable of Jim and Bob...... check out Jack Nicklaus,Payne Stewart and Tom Watson and see some of the same swings..... I think they are 2 plane swings .....R.I.P. Jim.
That slow intro reminded me of the six Million Dollar Man from the 70's. LOL!!
Once you have totally mastered the Tee-to-ReTee Drill, at least with the short irons, graduate to a "mini-JimFuryk" or "mini-A-Swing" or "mini-Trevino" drill, just lifting the club slightly outside the line, and then dropping it in on a slightly shallower plane than you were using on the standard Tee-to-ReTee Drill. It's still all in the hands but if you can learn this little loop with the hands and start feeling the shallower path, shaft lean and compression at impact, your hands will train your arms and then your body.
Dude drives farther and straighter from a chair than I do standing up.
😂
These concepts, unfortunately, are lost in today's modern game. I grew up swinging this way and have never strayed from it. My ball-striking has always been solid. Using these older school concepts, in my opinion, are so much easier on the body. I hit the ball just as solid as I did in my 20's. I'm 55 now. I still use these drills. Same ones for 40 years. I have lost some distance but it is more due to my age than not striking the ball solid. I went to a more senior easier shaft and it helped me get my regular distance back.
The equipment is much better now and there are so many different options in equipment that changing your swing to get more distance is not necessary.
These concepts have worked for as long as golf has been played and will always work. You don't have to be some incredible athlete to swing this way.
You are a smart golfer Tim. Most are not.
Returning the club back to where it started in the swing...I think he says this because he knows that if you swing properly, the weight will be on the left foot at impact making it functionality impossible to return the club to the address position. That said, this advice creates a swing that throws the clubhead at the ball if the weight doesn't get to the left foot which it won't if you let the pivot support the swinging of the club as it should. I know they know that address and impact are not the same, Manuel de la Torre, whom Jim and Bob highly respected, also taught this but is on record saying the left arm and club are in line at impact. Maybe it's to try to get the student to swing the club past themselves? If the pivot is responding to the swinging of the club and you attempt to return the club to the address position, the weight should stay on the right foot too long as the clubhead is flipped into impact. This destroys the radius of the swing after impact. I know they don't want this so it must be for another reason.
so what I'm seeing is you start the swing with your arms to turn your shoulders, and also turn your knees to turn your hips at the same time. But then on the downswing you shift weight forward which makes your hips turn first and then your shoulders then arms.
This is the ultimate!
Myself a Student of golf swing etc.
Video put a lot good concepts and dells and
Video put a lot of good easy to understand swing concepts and drills out there to practice with on the range.
There was a man, scottish guy I think, Roger Manning, who taught me my first lesson. exactly this. feet close together, swing, hands hinge and unhinge and made me do this. sadly i was influenced by the "modern" game and I'm going to back to this drill.
0:58 "You're outta there!"....looked like strike 2 to me
it seems to be vertical swing concept and would work for irons. For longer clubs such as 3 wood or Driver does any one know what adjustments we need to make on the three elements Jim was talking about. or do we just take a stance from the ball based on the club length. Also, not sure of the ball position.
I worked on the progressions today from 9 iron through 5W and 3W. Same all the way through, just different distance from ball. I play irons mid-stance and fw woods slightly forward from mid. Did not do driver today.
Thanks for your response. I am trying to tweek this setup a bit. If you look at his other video, Jim's left hand comes across his chest. So, I keep the club head bit off-of the ball to promote in-out swing.
It’s not as upright as it looks. All the camera angles are from the front. In the chair drill the swing is flat as can be. Obviously, longer the club, flatter the swing plane, just because you are farther away from the ball. Imagine swinging a 20ft long golf club, do you think the swing would look upright? Cheers.
awesome
The intro music is 🔥
We are entering the twilight zone what an intro
Fucking gold… this stuff is being taught today like its new stuff
@14:35 he’s crushing that persimmon wood sideways lol
How about that sound at 4:27?!!