I have been dancing Salsa since 2000 August and been in classes around the world in many festivals. No ONE put it, the easy to grasp, way as you did in this video. This is awesome stuff, Cheers!
First thing, and you probably know, is that 2/3 and 3/2 clave are really just constructs to orient your ear as to how the musicians are interacting with the clave, which can change many times in a song. Listen to Lagrimas Negras and clap out the clave for the whole song and say whether it is "3/2" or "2/3" th-cam.com/video/or78iiexGsk/w-d-xo.html In cuban popular dance, the emphasis should be on the 3rd step (4 and 8) which is struck by the bass and (if they are present) tumbadora. These are low frequency sounds easy to hear and tuning into them make contratiempo feel very natural for any son / son montuno.
@@MessinaDance thanks for your reply. I am not expert but I was listening to a famous salsa musician (not cuban) and he was saying that songs written for 3/2 clave have the beat on 1, 5 so it makes more sense to dance on1 while 2/3 clave have the beat on 4 and 8 so it makes more sense to dance on 2(palladium style, 2-3-4, 6,7,8). If I am not mistaken, son and afro-rumba are usually 2/3 so it makes sense to dance them contra tiempo. In cuban salsa I have learnt to dance on melody(1,2,3 5,6,7) but I am thinking if I should dance based on bass as you said.
Without any additional instruments or vocals that define the 1st beat, it's just impossible for me to feel the first bass and clave note on the offbeat (beat 2). I hear it as the 1st beat, so the contratiempo theory doesn't make sense for me in this case 🫤...
I have been dancing Salsa since 2000 August and been in classes around the world in many festivals. No ONE put it, the easy to grasp, way as you did in this video. This is awesome stuff, Cheers!
Wow! this is from the first week of shutdowns! You can feel the uncertain vibe in the background. Interesting videos, by the way.
These are great learning videos that you so much. I would love to see more video on Son Cubano especially. Regards
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Great instructions on the rhythm, thank you!
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As always really enjoy your videos!!!
Nice!!!!!!! Super helpful. Thank you
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Nice vid. Appreciated.
good job :)
thanks for this! Can you alternate in and out of contratiempo or is it something you decide on at the beginning of the song and stick to??
As long as you can do it coherently and lead it clearly... I say do what the music is telling you!
it makes more sense to dance contra-tiempo on 2/3 clave songs and a-tiempo on 3/2 clave songs. What do you think?
First thing, and you probably know, is that 2/3 and 3/2 clave are really just constructs to orient your ear as to how the musicians are interacting with the clave, which can change many times in a song. Listen to Lagrimas Negras and clap out the clave for the whole song and say whether it is "3/2" or "2/3"
th-cam.com/video/or78iiexGsk/w-d-xo.html
In cuban popular dance, the emphasis should be on the 3rd step (4 and 8) which is struck by the bass and (if they are present) tumbadora. These are low frequency sounds easy to hear and tuning into them make contratiempo feel very natural for any son / son montuno.
@@MessinaDance thanks for your reply. I am not expert but I was listening to a famous salsa musician (not cuban) and he was saying that songs written for 3/2 clave have the beat on 1, 5 so it makes more sense to dance on1 while 2/3 clave have the beat on 4 and 8 so it makes more sense to dance on 2(palladium style, 2-3-4, 6,7,8). If I am not mistaken, son and afro-rumba are usually 2/3 so it makes sense to dance them contra tiempo. In cuban salsa I have learnt to dance on melody(1,2,3 5,6,7) but I am thinking if I should dance based on bass as you said.
@@MessinaDance if they add 1 extra bar (as they sometimes do) it can appear to change from 2-3 to 3-2 $$$$$$$
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Without any additional instruments or vocals that define the 1st beat, it's just impossible for me to feel the first bass and clave note on the offbeat (beat 2). I hear it as the 1st beat, so the contratiempo theory doesn't make sense for me in this case 🫤...