the queen on the chess board of Cuban dancing: EL SON...and the core and foundation of ballroom "rumba" and "mambo" as well as so-called "salsa/s"...and of course Cuban casino...EVERY serious student of casino (or ANY of the aforementioned dances!) should study SON...known by few teachers and because of that RARELY taught. bravo Steve!
It's not "Salsa". It's Salsa. It's not "punk", "house" "funk" etc. It is it's own thing. Son a Parent. People dont call you by your name in "" and then say you're actually just your mom. Son MONTUNO base with other influences and evolved into salsa. If we follow this "logic" then there is no chachachá, since it comes from DANZÓN (as did mambo). We could aldo say there is no "Son" because it is actually just Nengon, kiriba, changui, etc. Or you could take it a step further, say that since those styles come from Haitian diaspora, that there "Son Cubano" is just Haitian music. Or that there is no "Danzón". Its a actually the Habanera, or that "habanera" is just Contradanzs (also existed in Haiti). And since Contradanza comes from the English and french courts (contredanse), that "Cuban dance" is just French royal court dancing. Lots of holes in that "logic".
@@shaolin1derpalm The difference being that Son, and it's antecedents are RHYTHMS, Salsa is NOT ( a rhythm) rather a style, or actually styleS; it's/ their RHYTHM/S is/are (still) Son/Montuno...actually a more accurate name for it/ them would be Modern Son, but I don't think that's going to happen. Cheers, and thanks for sharing.
@@davidalen9279 I just think it is a disservice to not accept salsa as it's own thing since it has other influences and a puertorican flavour as well. You can here a Son montuno and a salsa and know what is what. Both are great (I prefer Son over salsa for listening driving, housework, etc. Salsa is great to dance SALSA to. Just as Songo and Timba is great to dance Casino to. But they are all distinct. And if we get technical, pre-tumbadora son, bolero, guajira-son, bachata, and guaracha all have the same rhythm. Martillo on the bongos. But they are distinct. Salsa is a blend of things, and no matter what the reasoning for the name originally (marketing blah blah) it is now it's own thing. We have to a cept hungs we dont like. I have a accepted that NYC guaguancó (which literally sounds just like salsa to me) is a genre (based off of Arsenio rodriguez' guaguancó de salon, but with far less to almost no rumba influence) separate from what I call REAL guaguancó.
@@shaolin1derpalm You make fair points my friend; while I was slow accepting it, I am pretty sure Salsa, whatever that is, is here to stay. And if people enjoy dancing to it that's fine; in the end it's music and dance for people to enjoy and it doesn't stop me from enjoying what I enjoy; traditional Cuban music/dance...I just would like to keep them alive. Anyway, thanks for the exchange and enjoy doing/teaching whatever makes you feel alive...cheers, David
@@davidalen9279 hey I'm on your side about keeping traditional cuban music alive! It makes my piss boil vigorously when people gloss over or generalize it.
nice. i have recommended this to my hula students who wants to start learning salsa. we are fortunate to have a kumu or hula teacher that used to be a salsa teacher too. We find this very easy to follow.
That sounds fun. Thanks for watching 🙏 If any of you want to split a course, I am running a promo where people can access the material as it becomes available. The first 50 people can get it for just $49 Promo code: FIRST50 www.messinadance.com/casino-1-full-digital-course
@@MessinaDance I have recommended your courses to my students. I am more exclusive to Hula. But Son, Casino, Salsa just brings back memories of my childhood, my family... these never leaves me and glad that my hula students (we call them haumana) expressed the desire to learn this.
Soooooo helpful mate, muy until, el son es sublime, it enhances the salsa dancer so much, son y salsa son una Bonita mezcla cuando se combinan juntos. Much as gracias. Un saludo muy grande hermano. Ricardo (Chileno) Adelaide south Australia, Australia.
He usado algunos de thus tutorials for musicality understanding. I’m teaching basics for social dancing and students love you they understand and easy to follow you are a great inspiration and support.
Thanks very much! There is a livestream about that if you look under live videos ...AND there will be more detailed variations on an upcoming intermediate casino course I'm making as we speak. The pre-order is here: messinadance.com/nextsteps discount code is: NEXT50
Like I said in the earlier part of the day...you are hilarious!!! I loved this tutorial.I have been watching some your videos today, and I am very glad I found you online. Your teaching method is easy to follow. ¡Muchas gracias! If you don' t mind me asking, where are you located and what's your nationality?
the queen on the chess board of Cuban dancing: EL SON...and the core and foundation of ballroom "rumba" and "mambo" as well as so-called "salsa/s"...and of course Cuban casino...EVERY serious student of casino (or ANY of the aforementioned dances!) should study SON...known by few teachers and because of that RARELY taught. bravo Steve!
It's not "Salsa". It's Salsa.
It's not "punk", "house" "funk" etc.
It is it's own thing. Son a Parent.
People dont call you by your name in "" and then say you're actually just your mom. Son MONTUNO base with other influences and evolved into salsa.
If we follow this "logic" then there is no chachachá, since it comes from DANZÓN (as did mambo).
We could aldo say there is no "Son" because it is actually just Nengon, kiriba, changui, etc. Or you could take it a step further, say that since those styles come from Haitian diaspora, that there "Son Cubano" is just Haitian music.
Or that there is no "Danzón". Its a actually the Habanera, or that "habanera" is just Contradanzs (also existed in Haiti). And since Contradanza comes from the English and french courts (contredanse), that "Cuban dance" is just French royal court dancing.
Lots of holes in that "logic".
@@shaolin1derpalm The difference being that Son, and it's antecedents are RHYTHMS, Salsa is NOT ( a rhythm) rather a style, or actually styleS; it's/ their RHYTHM/S is/are (still) Son/Montuno...actually a more accurate name for it/ them would be Modern Son, but I don't think that's going to happen. Cheers, and thanks for sharing.
@@davidalen9279 I just think it is a disservice to not accept salsa as it's own thing since it has other influences and a puertorican flavour as well. You can here a Son montuno and a salsa and know what is what. Both are great (I prefer Son over salsa for listening driving, housework, etc. Salsa is great to dance SALSA to. Just as Songo and Timba is great to dance Casino to. But they are all distinct. And if we get technical, pre-tumbadora son, bolero, guajira-son, bachata, and guaracha all have the same rhythm. Martillo on the bongos. But they are distinct. Salsa is a blend of things, and no matter what the reasoning for the name originally (marketing blah blah) it is now it's own thing. We have to a cept hungs we dont like. I have a accepted that NYC guaguancó (which literally sounds just like salsa to me) is a genre (based off of Arsenio rodriguez' guaguancó de salon, but with far less to almost no rumba influence) separate from what I call REAL guaguancó.
@@shaolin1derpalm You make fair points my friend; while I was slow accepting it, I am pretty sure Salsa, whatever that is, is here to stay. And if people enjoy dancing to it that's fine; in the end it's music and dance for people to enjoy and it doesn't stop me from enjoying what I enjoy; traditional Cuban music/dance...I just would like to keep them alive. Anyway, thanks for the exchange and enjoy doing/teaching whatever makes you feel alive...cheers, David
@@davidalen9279 hey I'm on your side about keeping traditional cuban music alive! It makes my piss boil vigorously when people gloss over or generalize it.
With no doubt the most clear breakdown of son cubano I yet have seen. Including live teaching classes I attended to!
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Thanks very much 🙏
This is amazing, very helpful. I've been wanting to learn these steps - and the only school around me teaches Salsa on 1.
@igorg.8624 happy it is a help 🙌
This guy's progress by the end made me smile.
nice. i have recommended this to my hula students who wants to start learning salsa. we are fortunate to have a kumu or hula teacher that used to be a salsa teacher too. We find this very easy to follow.
That sounds fun. Thanks for watching 🙏
If any of you want to split a course, I am running a promo where people can access the material as it becomes available.
The first 50 people can get it for just $49
Promo code: FIRST50
www.messinadance.com/casino-1-full-digital-course
@@MessinaDance I have recommended your courses to my students. I am more exclusive to Hula. But Son, Casino, Salsa just brings back memories of my childhood, my family... these never leaves me and glad that my hula students (we call them haumana) expressed the desire to learn this.
Soooooo helpful mate, muy until, el son es sublime, it enhances the salsa dancer so much, son y salsa son una Bonita mezcla cuando se combinan juntos.
Much as gracias.
Un saludo muy grande hermano.
Ricardo (Chileno)
Adelaide south Australia, Australia.
He usado algunos de thus tutorials for musicality understanding.
I’m teaching basics for social dancing and students love you they understand and easy to follow you are a great inspiration and support.
That is so dope!!!!
All of your tutorials are very helpful!! Can you do a tutorial how you change from son to salsa on 1 (cuban) and the opposite
Thanks very much! There is a livestream about that if you look under live videos
...AND there will be more detailed variations on an upcoming intermediate casino course I'm making as we speak.
The pre-order is here:
messinadance.com/nextsteps
discount code is: NEXT50
Very useful! Bravo guys.
I love it .. I will practice with your sharing video . Thank you ! 🕺
You are an excellent teacher
Хорошее занятие. Good lesson. Great.
Thanks for watching 🙏
Great video, really. Thank you very much, I will practise this material very soon! Thanks and respect for the great work.
Thanks for the kind words!
Like I said in the earlier part of the day...you are hilarious!!! I loved this tutorial.I have been watching some your videos today, and I am very glad I found you online. Your teaching method is easy to follow. ¡Muchas gracias! If you don' t mind me asking, where are you located and what's your nationality?
One of the best, how we change from son cubano to salsa rhythm?
Thanks very much.
I do have a video of incorporating son I to dancing casino on the channel. It was a livestream
Thank you! Great lesson!
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for showing me how it's done maestro
Love love love!
¿Donde puedo encomtrar esa musica? Para empezar ha e sentir el Ritmo, gracias,( muy didactica su clase)
whats this song called?
Basic steps: 3 to 3 rhythm and following the bass rhythm in the music
Does anyone have any recommendations of son cubano songs/bands?
I recommend Eliades Ochoa. Particularly the song "Ella sí va"
I wish you could understand the song's lyrics. (I am Cuban)
Hey, do you use any specific App for the music? Love how the instruments add up
Salsay rhythms is 1 app you can adjust the instrumentation, but there are many.
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Para aprender a bailar primero tienes q aprenderte LA Clave, ta ta ta ta ta ta ta !!!!!
I am sorry your camera men is really bad
This was a stupid comment to leave. It does help the video in the algorithm though, so thanks for that at least 🙏
Didn't see anything special. It's basically just the basic step of salsa.
Son started in 1890 and birthed anything called "salsa" the world over which in itself is very special.