How To Transcribe Jazz Solos For Bass | The practice Room #77

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  • So why should you transcribe jazz solos? If you're looking to improve your ability to improvise over chord changes, it might be the most useful tool ever. If I could only ever give you one piece of advice for learning to be a better jazz musician, it would be transcription. Train your ear, find the music you love, and learn the absolute heck out of it by transcribing it and playing along to the recordings.
    There is no substitute for taking what you know and applying it to a real life performance or rehearsal situation with other musicians, but the preparation for that starts way earlier, and is a solitary pilgrimage through the countryside of melody and harmony, that brought you to this music in the first place.
    For me it was the likes of Michael Brecker, Pat Metheny, Herbie Hancock, John Coltrane, Mike Stern, and Miles Davis. For you, the landscape and the journey may look a little different, but the concept for navigating the path is identical if you want to speak this language fluently.
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  • @yogran1
    @yogran1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    While transcribing solos are you also always aware of the chords that are being played or do you first learn the parts and then look at the harmony? The chord movements that are generally used in jazz are still alien to me and even though I may end up learning the particular solo I want to I may not fully understand the applications of those ideas. Thanks a lot for your time and effort into making these videos!

    • @janekgwizdala
      @janekgwizdala  4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I'm absolutely paying attention to the harmony underneath, that's 50% of the transcription right there in some cases. With the solo I talk about in this video, it's a minor blues. So it's a simple. 12-bar, form that cycles round and round. It's worth finding something simple like a blues to transcribe first if you're new to this kind of harmony.

    • @pickinstone
      @pickinstone 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kamran does have a point, though. Learning how to play the full solo and get that feel as close as possible can teach you just as much as breaking the solo down and figuring out the harmony. How to dig in, use dynamics, get the groove. Hos to work on the development and contour of your lines--that's something that isn't talked about enough. Then you can go back and analyze and get the other 50%. That's how my mentor teaches me and it works better than immediately analyzing it (but everyone learns differently). Learning to sing the solo with and without your instrument is GREAT practice as well (as Janek hints at here).

  • @ja773r
    @ja773r 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Few people know this but Adam transcribed a lot of pink panther stuff in his youth… comes out beautifully here x

  • @pingfunk
    @pingfunk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great audio. Personally I prefer this angle for Practice Room.
    Do an interview with Scott Devine.

    • @mikkeldeleuran323
      @mikkeldeleuran323 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That would be an hour of Janek criticizing Scotts approach to teaching 😄

    • @janekgwizdala
      @janekgwizdala  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Southpaw You're all good, probably not going to happen...

    • @kabalayouri419
      @kabalayouri419 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why ? Haha does janek have a beef with Scott ?

  • @JonathanArcangel
    @JonathanArcangel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Why have the last 3 not been on Spotify? That's where I listen. Still, great as always.

  • @EdBuGMEnRRB
    @EdBuGMEnRRB 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for not being afraid to show your mistakes! Process>product

  • @domhoward6105
    @domhoward6105 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4k looks super nice

  • @deafprof
    @deafprof 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4k looks good, we can see into your SOUL!!!!

  • @hablabajo8949
    @hablabajo8949 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    question for wooten: "hey Vic, what would you ask to yourself if you meet in the future?"
    question for you 33:30 What is that hole on your bass?
    Keep working so hard men, I dig you.

    • @jonmuir13
      @jonmuir13 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Habla Bajo it’s an F hole, where the bass is chambered. Look up Janek gwizdala signature and watch the premier guitar video to see him talk ab it

  • @Shuzies
    @Shuzies 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very sweet intro....love this type of lesson...thank you

  • @liamk712
    @liamk712 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was just watching a live masterclass with Adam Rogers the other night that was fantastic. I would love to see him on the practice room podcast sometime as a guest!

  • @simonnatschke
    @simonnatschke 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hi Janek, great content as always! i would be interested in hearing you talk about posture while playing the bass. especially in these days i find myself sitting down even more than usual and im looking for a better posture while practicing, i play at least 4 hours a day(instrument on the right or like you on the left leg) and im feeling as if it is challenging my back and shoulders more and more

    • @janekgwizdala
      @janekgwizdala  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My posture has changed over the years. I used to stand almost exclusively whether I was practicing or performing live. And then I moved to the foot stool for my left foot for a while. But I had some back issues last year, and I've landed on what you currently see in my videos. The bass is on the left leg, both feet are flat on the floor, and the strap does take a considerable amount of the weight off my shoulders. It's worth noting though, that my main mattisson signature basses are 32" scale, so that brings my fretting hand closer to the body, and makes it easier all round. I also employ as much economy of movement as possible, and am very relaxed when I play for the most part. All those factors can contribute to a much more healthy posture and playing stye.

    • @Byzycx
      @Byzycx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Janek's breathing is also very consistent which helps relieve any tension.

  • @michaelbenoit9240
    @michaelbenoit9240 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Janek & Chelsea,, my 15 year old cat and our oldest family dog passed away in about 3 weeks of each other (take pictures of your fur-babies now and back them up). We're doing okay, just taking the time to appreciate and remember them. On a lighter and happier note, I just ordered the Roland F10 as a birthday gift ($499, hammer action, digital piano (yay optional computer connectivity)) as a supplement to the upright upstairs in the family living room so that I can now practice piano whenever I want. Now I just need to take care of my 45 minute one way commute in rush hour traffic to orchestra rehearsals as someone who prefers biking & public transportation but I think I may settle for taking the bus there and lyfting back at night due to the bus schedules. Otherwise, Spotify probably has the one the best app design and support, but it lacks a HiFi option while I'm building my cd collection.

  • @joshroyeca
    @joshroyeca 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gold!!! Thank you for sharing Janek! Greetings from Manila! 😀🇵🇭

  • @crawfordwdow
    @crawfordwdow 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the new set up.

  • @jacksonvalad8012
    @jacksonvalad8012 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also does great work for your ear training

  • @jimbog8397
    @jimbog8397 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your videos Janek.
    I'm looking forward to Adam Neely and Victor!
    Stay healthy!
    Jim

  • @scotthicks7380
    @scotthicks7380 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your great advice - I always learn something when I'm watching. My technique is good but my ear is not really that great, so telling me to go back to the beginning to transcribe is solid and, I believe, mature advice.

  • @niclem03
    @niclem03 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    By the time I thought "I never noticed his videos were in 4k", you talk about your new setup :p Great audio, video and content quality !!

  • @things_i_like1354
    @things_i_like1354 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Besides the great content, I like the background of your video. The pedals as well.

  • @carlosacha1409
    @carlosacha1409 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Besides Miles, please mention another artists to start transcribing. I'm so worried that in my country there is no a true jazz language and I want to start depeloving it. Great content Janek.

    • @janekgwizdala
      @janekgwizdala  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Some people I loved to transcribe when I was starting out include: Art Pepper, Sonny Stitt, Freddie Hubbard, Lee Morgan, John Coltrane, Grant Green, Cannonball Adderley, Nat Adderley, Ben Webster, Dexter Gordon, Stan Getz, Sonny Rollins, Sarah Vaughn, Ray Brown, Oscar Peterson, Nancy Wilson, Charlie Parker, Bud Powell... It's a long list, and this is just the tip of the iceberg. You could go back farther in history from this list to important figures like Louis Armstrong, Roy Eldridge, Duke Ellington, and Count Basie etc... and you can go way forward to Wynton Marsalis, Herbie Hancock, Keith Jarrett, Kenny Garrett, Brad Mehldau, Pat Metheny etc... I've transcribed 100's if not 1000's of solos at this point, so it's a little hard to keep up with all my favorites. Good luck!

  • @fabriziofioredrummer
    @fabriziofioredrummer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    During these quarantine days I'm transcribing Tim Miller's solo on the song Culture live at 55 bar. LOVE THAT RECORD man!!!!

    • @janekgwizdala
      @janekgwizdala  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He is SOOOO lyrical on that song. What an amazing solo. I've transcribed a bunch of the guys solos from that record. It continues to give me so much to work, even 14 years later!

    • @fabriziofioredrummer
      @fabriziofioredrummer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@janekgwizdala yesssssss it's great!!!!!!

    • @brandonmalone1893
      @brandonmalone1893 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amazing album

  • @sheldonagwu6616
    @sheldonagwu6616 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great vid Janek, would be dope to get Adam on the podcast for an interview, also is there some sort of technical difficulty at 11.52?

  • @MatthewDuduryn
    @MatthewDuduryn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your discipline and dedication Janek. It always inspires me. I normally practice solos while learning them by ear, taking a phrase at a time, although admittedly I've never written out an entire solo before and I worry that I'm trying to consume too much information at once. Would you always recommend writing it out before picking up the bass and practicing it? Cheers.

  • @jakemf1
    @jakemf1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That album is so good

  • @Oliver-vu6su
    @Oliver-vu6su 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video! I'd love to hear what kind of relation Wooten has with transcribing and how it has (maybe) changed over the years.

  • @miguitarraesunaibane
    @miguitarraesunaibane 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do always transcription by ear, for me its too funny!

  • @gugamunhozofficial
    @gugamunhozofficial 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good Morning Gwizdala!

  • @zombeer8340
    @zombeer8340 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi janek, as a guitar player i have rly hard times transcribing other instruments, even the easiest stuff i always fail but i dont have problems transcribing guitar lines and solos... Do you know that feeling? When yes how do you deal with it? Specially when you are transcribing parts where the Solists intonation is a bit off (trumpet /trombone /sax players)

    • @stefanomorbidelli8878
      @stefanomorbidelli8878 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Daaammn!!! It's so annoying when the soloist goes for an "out" part and he accidentaly plays a note a bit sharp/flat and when you try to play It you don't know if It's (for example) a B or a Bb because they both are "out" notes.

  • @michaeldangelomusic
    @michaeldangelomusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quality is great! What is the camera setup? It handles the lighting really well. And of course, you’re playing the hell out of that Adam Rogers solo! Certainly no easy task

    • @janekgwizdala
      @janekgwizdala  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm using a Sony body (A7sii), with Sony Zeis glass.

    • @michaeldangelomusic
      @michaeldangelomusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Janek Gwizdala Thanks! Hope you’re doing well amidst the quarantine

  • @Hexspa
    @Hexspa 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    May I ask what compressor you’re using on your dialog mic? Sounds very up front and present. Thanks.

  • @MrDsmith1959
    @MrDsmith1959 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’ll get stay safe

  • @tastybassy8135
    @tastybassy8135 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Taking a note from those SBL thumbnails eh?😉
    Why do you groan so loudly when playing?

  • @royzilbersher3228
    @royzilbersher3228 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought it was Pat on that tune

    • @janekgwizdala
      @janekgwizdala  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      On the studio recording, it's Pat on guitar, and it's his composition. But on this live bootleg, it's Adam Rogers, Larry Goldings, Michael Brecker, and Bill Stewart from Ronnie Scott's in 2000.

    • @alexanderlindgren9080
      @alexanderlindgren9080 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@janekgwizdala Where can I find the album? I've searched all across the internet and can't seem to get a hold of it...

    • @janekgwizdala
      @janekgwizdala  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alexander Lindgren you can’t... it’s a bootleg, and I believe very few people in the world have this one. I’m including a snippet of it in the Transcription Vault at my Bass Studio for the lesson on this solo.

  • @Erkki_Mela
    @Erkki_Mela 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing Janek! Question: Have you ever gotten into crazy polyrythms/nested tuplets in the likes of Zappa? Steve Vai was obsessive about transcribing his material and got in deep, here is his written article on the subject in case you’re interested:
    www.vai.com/tempo-mental/

    • @janekgwizdala
      @janekgwizdala  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some things I've transcribed have been quite challenging rhythmically, but for the most part, I'm not taking on transcription projects like the music of Frank Zappa. Not that I don't love Frank's music, I'm a huge fan, but for what I'm looking for in my playing lately, that just isn't on my radar for transcription.

    • @Erkki_Mela
      @Erkki_Mela 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Janek Gwizdala thanks for the reply. 😊👍 I agree: While interesting, it’s not very practical/useful for my musical development.