TreadTracker Treadmill Sensor // Treadmill Accuracy Testing Fun!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ม.ค. 2019
- Full in-depth review: dcra.in/TreadTracker
The TreadTracker is effectively a Bluetooth Smart running footpod for your treadmill...that doesn't require a foot. You place it below your treadmill and then it broadcasts out speed via Bluetooth Smart so that apps like Zwift can use it as a pace source. Additionally, watches like those from Garmin, Polar, and Suunto.
In this review I dive into accuracy testing of not just the tread tracker, but also my entire treadmill as well as Stryd.
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Hey folks - thanks for watching! If you want to dive into all that data, or just want some more unboxing pics or other details, hit up the full post for everything I couldn't quite fit into the video: dcra.in/TreadTracker
As allways the gold standard for reviewing . Thanks
Thanks!
Great video - definitely a huge step up in quality recently. I'd love to see this repeated using a garmin pod and runscribe. With the treadtracker you now have a great reference for those other devices.
Neil Catley Thanks, having the studio sorta-mostly where I want it is making things easier. Unfortunately for this video I was lacking studio lights yet downstairs where the treadmill us...soon!
Ray, the big appeal for me would be the multiple shoe aspect. Since I sweat a lot and it is quite humid here, I would have to rotate among two/three pairs of shoes to start the run with dry ones. Likewise, a friend of mine has his sprint, long run, and recovery shoes. This would be ideal for him as well.
Great review. I have been very concerned about the accuracy of my new treadmill that I dropped $1400USD on. I did the measurement of the belt trick (without a load) and saw my treadmill was going much faster than the speed selected. I know it is more accurate with a load but my Garmin footpod has consistently shown different speeds. I don't like the idea of calibrating a foot pod to a treadmill if the treadmill is inaccurate. That is why I like that Garmin footpods calibrate using GPS during an outside run which makes more sense to me and why I tend to trust it.
Dude.. great treadmill skills at the end.. I would have totally done a face plant if that had happened to me
Great video, thanks! Yesterday I ran on a treadmill with just my forerunner 935 and it was about 10% off. (of course I don't know if it was the treadmill, the forerunner or both)
DC Ray does science (without glasses)
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This is a brilliant review. I can't find the TreadTracker, but there is an optical device available called the Runn, which works well. The belt on my new Sole F-85 goes 18.5% faster than it reports. Ouch. (I confirmed this with a wheel like Ray did.) Now I know, and now as I wait for Sole to get back to me, I can run with the Runn on Zwift and get credit for my actual speed.
Ah good to see one of my Zwift "WOW" sessions featuring! Nothing like 10x400 with 60 secs recovery to test your speed(s) :)
It was great fun! I'm definitely going to be using it again. Time flew by!
Interesting with the Treadtracker, hadn´t seen that before. Think I´ll go with the Stryd though.
Trying a zwift pod Tomorrow. I hear they are hit and miss with pace but are fine if you stick to a standard pace.
As always, great review! Question: how accurate is the Polar Stride Footpod? I have done the automatic calibration with the Polar footpod and an M430 using GPS while running outside. I am wondering if my Zwift pace is close to correct.
Very good info!!
So, no ANT+ for the treadtracker? Bummer. Having Bluetooth only, I can only pair the treadtracker to Zwift or my Fenix 5 plus, but not both at the same time? Correct?
Will this record ascent as well?
If not, is there any way to record climbing data while training on treadmills?
To test my treadmill (Proform) I tossed my bike on it which has a garmin speed/cadence sensor. I then ran it to measure speed and distance between the two. Cheap and easy. Verified that my belt is .3 mph fasterthan the display at all speeds. So if I put in 3.0mph, real world 3.3. 6.0 mph, real world 6.3. Or if I want to run real world at 7.0 I dial in 6.7mph. And if I run 6 miles, I've actually covered 6.3 miles real world.
Anyone know where I can still buy one of these? Looks like run social have discontinued it...
orange counter - more than 1km wrong over the marathon distance?
Is anyone still using the Treadtracker on Zwift. I have on and it connects to Zwift via bluetooth but it wont pick up my speed. I can see the wheel is turning on the treadtracker and it shows on Zwift as being connected but my speed is always 0km/hr.
It's always good to have tight bungee skills while keeping your phone in place.
I gotta excel somewhere...
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@@Dcrainmaker I am still laughing about the "ball busting" Apple TV remote. Likely because I have one. I now walk in pain.
Is this available anywhere on the market in 2021?
So, is this product no longer available? Is the Garmin pod any good? The Zwift run pod is trash.
Definitely want, I mean need, more music filled montages.
I shall comply.
@@Dcrainmaker Haha!
So I'm definitely gonna get this and set some code up to play vr skyrim
I have the treadtracker but find when using it on Zwift the pace on the screen jumps around a good bit. Can be a bit distracting seeing your pace go from say 12kph to 12.5 then down to 11.3 or something in the space of a few seconds. I use a Garmin footpod mainly and the pace is rock solid.
Indeed, I suspect that's potentially due to the treadmill itself having jumps in the belt. It doesn't appear as though TreadTracker is doing any smoothing of the data to 3rd party apps.
@@Dcrainmaker RunSocial themselves smooth the pace in their app. Zwift don't.
@Tim Grose that is good to know. I guess a footpod is the best option for Zwift.
What about TreadTracker and the treadmill vs like the accelerometer in the Fenix 5X or the Apple Watch 4? I have always wondered how accurate these wrist devices are vs actual miles.
I find typically they handle well for paces in your long run range. But usually I see things fall apart at the outer edges. Other challenges are button pushing and water bottles hoses it up too.
@@Dcrainmaker I have felt that the watches "should" be fairly accurate based on it having your stride information and such from outdoors GPS runs. I have always based my runs on the pace and distance my watch says over what my treadmill says I am doing. is that a pretty safe assumption?
It’s a blend to be honest. I usually trust my watches pace indoors except in sprints/very hard intervals and walking breaks/recovery. For walking I’d likely trust treadmill, and for sprints it’s a toss up which one will suck less.
@@Dcrainmaker That makes sense. I am mostly going long so the sprints aren't too big of a deal for me. Thanks so much for your responses! Love your channel and site.
They are handy if you have nothing else to hand but even Garmin themselves suggest to use a foot pod if want better results. And AFAIK it is actually modelling arm swing rates compared to what you do outdoors which is a problem if you reach for a towel or drink or something. And then I wondered the other day why I had supposed broken one of my records on a Garmin until realised must have got some flattering results when had unknowingly had his enabled.
Have not watched the video yet but is this test with Zwift with direct PC or Android or just Apple products?
It’s applicable to to any device that can support Bluetooth Smart sensors.
Thx. I asked as many on Zwift facebook group pointed out the Android version did not work with Zwift.
@@robertschwartz3675 Still in beta but Zwift now has an Android version. Not all Android phones are compatible however.
Great review - always wanted to know how accurate (or not) is this device.
From personal experience - calibrating treadmill (even good ones) is a pain since they have different error % at different speeds *and* during contact of the leg with the surface (when the pressure is maximum, so motor must apply extra force).
fellrnr.com/wiki/Treadmill_Calibration did good research a few years ago and I improved it later for my needs, but in the end its a waste of multiple hours.
The biggest issue is getting a reliable speed measurement on the treadmill - to get it right you would need to make measurements at that exact speed while applying running pressure.
Btw - Stryd is not that bad on the treadmill, but it's still could be waaaay off, especially with the latest firmware versions.
With the latest firmware is totally unusable for me - it went from being 15-20 seconds off at slow 6min/km speeds to up to 80 seconds off at same speed. =(
The product is great. Pricing and availability are very poor imo. I won't touch it for the cost, but also can't even if I wanted to (Canada).
This may lead to the start down the “rabbit hole” of treadmill reviews???
God I hope not.
In my experience, the accuracy of the Stryd is pretty poor. I ran a 5k and it came back with 2.95, which is just over 5% off. The percentage is pretty consistent across various other races I've run. Then again, I'm not running a perfect tangent course, so the accuracy is actually even worse than that.
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11:45 - Aren’t you getting too much credit from the treadmill? On the chart it looks like you set the treadmill to speed x and it instantly gives you credit for that speed, but really the motor is still working up to that speed, so the real distance is lower - hence the lower readings on the other devices?
It's actually interesting. The treadmill itself ramps speed pretty quickly, and it shows that speed ramp on the device after you set it (so it shows it speeding up), and all that's roughly accurate. Where it's inaccurate is the top-speed. About 30-seconds into the interval it's like the treadmill goes 'Oh crap, I never truly reached the top speed, let me try and fix that', and then randomly surges. So for the first 30 seconds of the interval (after the 3-5 second ramp period), it's stable but reading high (actually going slower by about 1KPH), and then at the 30-second marker it freaks out like when you're nearing the finish line and realize someone is about to overtake you sprinting.
"size of a shoe"… actually looks like it could fit inside a shoe for packing in a suitcase
It'll kinda fit, but it's too long, so it ends up being worse than just putting it next to the shoe. :(
It astounds me that treadmills are so poor at accuracy.
Sad indeed.
My Proform treadmill shows roughly the same deviation to my calibrated Stryd footpod as shown here in this video. On the Stryd forum there are more questions about treadmill accuracy and what's apparently also a factor is that the treadmill slows down when you land on it and accelerates when you are in the air
To be fair to treadmills was a sample size of one and not exactly a state of the art machine as Ray himself notes!
this is one of those things that ends up in the closet after a couple of uses
I don't know. I think it's totally dependent on whether your treadmill falls into the same category. My treadmill kinda does given the low mileage I put on it, and thus, this unit would by association. However, if you use your treadmill all the time, then this would get equal use.
Okay, it’s pretty dumb to do a review and not put in a link where you can buy the item.