what exactly is a "proud meat-eater" anyway? is this someone who feel they accomplished or contributed to something special just by buying meat at the store, prepare a meal with it, then ingest and digest it? that is impressive. . .
Where do they meet all those mean vegans??? I haven't met one vegan in my life. Neither mean nor nice. I'd like to know those magical places where vegans are doing all their mean vegan things.
Zolpi I'm in a summer camp right now, and I seriously haven't even mentioned I'm vegan at all, even though I just finished tge 2nd to last day .-. I really would like to know where all these vegans that just shout "IMA VEGAN I'M BETTER THAN U UR ALL EVIL BECAUSE YOU SUPPORT ANIMAL SLOUTER!" are.
No cinema celery, it has nothing to do with being reminded about what they do to animals, most people don't have a problem with this. It is as stated. we don't hate vegans, but we get pissed off at how many vegans seem to think they have a right to a) tell you as soon as they can that they are vegan, and b) having done so, then start dropping snide remarks or lectures from their perceived moral superiority about our lifestyle,which just happens to be the global present day and historical normal diet for Homo sapiens.
@@mchooksis vegans aren't pushy at all . I had someone tell me I should die because I'm vegan and there excuse was the fact that vegans are pushy . But telling someone to die for there diet isn't pushy ?
The first time i met a vegan about 1.5 years ago I said in front of her 'I hate vegans' still to this day i'm not sure where this toxic thought came from, Was it subliminally programmed or did i just feel threatened by her diet. 1 year vegan now and its the best lifestyle change I've ever made.
Of course you do. If you didn't care, you wouldn't be constantly telling non-vegans that you are vegan, or that we are wrong for not being vegan. You would simply be vegan and wouldn't bother with other peoples' choices. Except guess what? Getting involved in other peoples' choices is ALL vegans do.
@marcus24000 Too lazy like that Blair White to source vegan restaurants and make a stand and say no I'm not eating animals... never really vegan in the first place. Vegans would rather starve than eat an animal in a restaurant and all restaurants have salad and veg, its not hard is it?
@marcus24000 I dont have a problem outside my own home. I got to cafes or restaurants that have vegan options, I download their menu first and make my choices. All cafes have baked potatoes beans and salad... I certainly do not starve! There is an abundance of food to eat on this planet without having a dead animal on part of your plate, easiest thing I have ever done.
You mad? Delve into some Psych, brah. When someone doesn't care they typically don't bother with something cause it doesn't bug them let alone film, edit, and release an entire video on it. Btw did you stretch before that reach?
Her video isnt about vegans diet tho....she even said she doesnt hate the practice. Its the behaviours of some vegans that her whole video was about....
@@GITMDENZEL And you're comparing animals to what exactly? I mean, I guarantee that you care about animals enough for this to still be considered horrible.
To even claim of being a "proud" meat eater. Proud? You eat meat or not eat meat. But "proud"? Who spews such ignorant garbage? Meat eaters with secret shame and guilt for what they do to animals.
The problem here is that vegans tend to regard themselves as superior to meat eaters, at least ethically, and that's annoying, particularly since the damage agriculture causes on environment (plants and animals) is at least as agressive as livestock farming. Yes, you don't kill animals directly or, as you say, pay somebody to kill them for you, just kill them indirectly through deforestation or using plaguicides.
Here is what you are saying: people who do not commit murder are actually not ethically superior to those that do since humans incidentally die producing cars, computers, phones and jewelry in other parts of the world...
I haven't said that at all. I have said that killing animals while looking the other way is not ethically superior than killing without looking the other way. If someone dies by accident producing cars we can't say he/she has been murdered (unless he/she was working in inhuman conditions), it's just an accident. But pesticides don't kill by accident, they are used purposely to kill animals. Some of them die directly, like beetles, moles or mice. Some others probably by accident, like bees, butterflies, birds, fishes, foxes, ants, wolves etc But they all are killed so that you can get your plate full of vegetables and fruits. You can call then collateral damage if that quiets your conscience, but changing the name doesn't change the facts.
Actually, it's worse; her argument is more similar to saying: "An Asian guy was mean to me, therefore I'm now justified in ignoring all Asians when they mention my moral and ethical deficiencies."
Alex Riesen millions upon millions of field mice and other small animals that are killed by pesticides or being torn up by farm equipment which is far worse than anything that happens in a slaughter house so tell me what trait does a cow have that a mouse doesn't that justifies you killing it for your food?
That sensitive psychopath that's the most honest vegan username I've ever come across. It's not that vegans love watching tortures animals they enjoy making others feels bad about it even though they use a computer made from animal products and is in no way shape or form needed for survival so it's okay to kill animals for luxuries but not for sustainance?
You may be an aberration to the norm...or at least to those, I"ve met...(this is why I hate generalities...they are based entirely too much on perception and experience and forget to take outliers into account) every Vegan I've met has told me what I horrible person I am for eating meat and how saintly they are for avoiding it. How I will die and they will be healthier...even though one out of the 10 or so I've met has more health problems than I do. Though I will say that I appreciate you being an awesome and respectful human being. Thank you.
so true bro! but for the most part its positive stuff believe it or not! people are seeing how happy and energized i am and theres only one culprit!! whole foods plant based diet bitches!!!! it feels really really REALLY GOOD!
Yessss, just watched the whole thing! and your video was much more well organized than mine lol (as per always) - coming in with all the nutritional info. thanks for including my clip!! I really hope she watches these and re-evaluates her misguided opinion... so many hypocritical statements like how there are all these benefits of being vegan such as health/environmental, but vegans should just never talk about veganism cause it's annoying... k that makes sense.
Don't worry about your video being too long. You are one of the few TH-camrs I could watch for hours. I love how intelligent and well put together your videos are. Thanks for all that you do for the vegan community.
Shes half chinese so most likely she ate dog before and as a christian its moral to do so because animals have no soul so its ok according to her religion.
sensoryexperience, you are exactly what Roaming Millennial speaks of when she talks about overly aggressive and hostile vegans. You may have your beliefs over what people who eat meat are like but what does your behavior say about you?
I remember walking by a group of vegans showing videos of animals being tortured while I was eating a juicy sausage... I thought it was super funny then, no one said anything to me, and here I am after looking at the research 6 months of being a vegan.
Hurricane Rosey just destroying your anti science nonsense. Why do you think nobody wants to date you Rosey? You are an anti science vegan zealot and you never shut up! Hahahaha This is your brain on veganism people!
I don't mention it hardly ever, only in restaurant circumstances, even then trying to skirt around the 'V' word, asking "If they can not add/cook with or does this have such and such, etc." My family and friends tell everyone my diet preferences (which I honestly can't stand in social situations) when I decline certain products. I specifically choose to not tell people, and yet somehow everyone finds out without me saying anything at all.
Because she is desperate to increase her audience. She may have done so for this one video, but somehow I think in the long term it will prove to me a very stupid move.
""Vegans are stupid" said every vegan ever before going vegan." Said every vegan, despite only ever having met a handful of other vegans. Vegans and vegetarians are in denial, with their only real claim being ethics, which is silly. Is it inhumane to eat animals, when ultimately ALL animals get eaten by other animals anyway? The fact is that life cannot exist without meat eaters to keep herbivores in check, otherwise herbivores simply render land uninhabitable. Yes, humans do consume a lot more than any other animal, but we have higher energy needs due to our increased intelligence, among other things. Humans have adapted to an omnivorous diet because such a diet provides all the nutrients and energy our bodies require, and is also able to be adapted depending on the environment, and what food sources are available. Also, it is simply not possible to feed the entire population of earth on a solely vegan/vegetarian diet. Not enough land is suitable for growing vegetables etc to accomplish this. And previous attempts to get as much crop growth out of a given quantity of land lead to the dustbowl. A diet incorporating meat is much easier, as animals simply require the right kind of feed, and can be grown/raised anywhere, provided we make the environment suitable for them. www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/vegan-diet-everyone-us-follow-health-impact-meat-nutrients-deficit-supply-scientists-study-a8064981.html qz.com/749443/being-vegan-isnt-as-environmentally-friendly-as-you-think/ At the end of the day, vegans are arrogantly trying to force others to think the way they do, by guilting us about "animal suffering". In reality, the ethics of food don't mean jack shit. Caring about how the animals we eat are treated is a waste of time. We don't even know if animals such as chickens can even feel suffering, and even if they could, they're not human.
Feiky, and flores, any EDIVENCE that his point are not true? After all he posted some sources and you just make a claim they were biased or forged. You provided zero evidence, yet invalidate his whole point. Now THAT is biased and ignorant!
Not to be disrespectful but.. I have heard some really ridiculous arguments against veganism, but roaming millennial's argument is seriously one of the dumbest ones.
Really? I thought she made really valid points and was kind enough to not attack the practice. She said she understood why its a good thing. And she was talking about Vegans not the practice. Which if u watch the original video you would see. Looking at the opposing view/both views is always good to do :)
BobbyFischer0000 Unfortunately, some people are "that dumb" to believe the B.S. they spew. She followed the trend of making videos criticizing veganism/vegans. If she was chasing fame, she has certainly stirred the pot and received more attention. She got in a Twitter spat with Unnatural Vegan and mentioned possibly debating her on a livestream. If VG does debate her, he'd destroy her like he did to Bearing.
Michael Waszyrowski I understand your point. He can be very.... harsh, but he does have some quality content. In debates, he's very calm, patient and respectful. His reputation just isn't the best.
This is probably my favorite of the response videos to Roaming Millenial, because it gets into the psychology of why people feel the need to try to discredit veganism by socially stigmatizing vegans. When people are making ethical arguments that would inconvenience your lifestyle, the tendency is to signal that the arguments are coming from a social fringe in hopes of persuading others to agree to go along with dismissing them out of hand.
Seriously watch her video bro. She totally respects vegans decision to not eat meats. And because vegan vs meat eaters thing Revolves around an ETHICAL issue BOTH SIDES ARE VALID and therefore should be respected. Demonizing someone cuz they have a diff moral code is just mean.
Meat Eater: "Hey, you want some Hamburgers?" Vegan: "Oh no, I don't eat meat..." Meat Eater: "LOL DON'T HAVE TO ASK IF SOMEONE IS VEGAN THEY WILL TELL YO-" Vegan: "I HEARD THAT FUCKING JOKE 100 TIMES!"
Meat-eaters: *comment “bacon tho” on every video about veganism.* Also meat-eaters: “Vegans can’t stop talking about veganism, it’s so annoying.” I smell hypocrisy
SummaSummarum Fitness I didn't see this kindness you speak of I saw a person speaking as though he is a superior person than others and being just as bad as whoever the hell this girl is.
.....seriously, doesn't she hear the words that are coming out of her mouth? Going solely by the intellectual content of her diatribe it is okay to eat her.
Angel Gigi watch the actually video moron she doesn't say we eat because of intelligence hierarchies she says they exist, which they do. Don't you think you should actually watch the video you are attacking? Hahahahaha This is your brain on veganism people!
zeit Hahahaha she never said that's why we eat them, she simply said intelligence hierarchies exist.....which they do! She even says she has issues with eating pigs because of their intelligence, you are attacking a strawman just like Mickey here!
Angel Gigi Actually she's extremely intelligent. Honestly, I don't think you watched the video. Because she didn't say that, she said it by species hierarchy. Goodness.
Im rather chill i don't mind people asking me why im vegan i just tired of the exact same conversations like "i was a vegetarian once" "but protein though" "animals will take over if we don't eat them though" "god put animals for us to eat them though"
The reason she made the video is because Veganism threatens her world view. Actually in neurological studies where participants were shown a statement that conflicted with their world view, the brain activity went off in the amygdala which is the part responsible for fear. Intellectual friction with your worldview has the same effect on you as if a predator were chasing you. That's exactly why people are so hostile. We build up a fortress of our beliefs and we respond very defensively when anyone tries to destroy it. People don't want to see the truth because it destroys their illusions.
Exactly. People who get their worldview challenged come up with all shorts of excuses to defend their own bubble. They can even go to down to silly excuses the likes of, "but, plants are conscious living beings too. Why u eat them?"
Vegan Visionary And vegans are the only ones who responded to that psychological challenge (in the animal welfare context) wisely and ethically--by changing their behaviour. Most us weren't born vegan.
That video was what made me stop watching her. I am not vegan myself, at least not yet, but that was straight up BS and just mean comments with no justification. Keep up the awesome work, Mic. People like you bring people like me to these videos and make us interested in this aspect. I can tell you from experience that her behavior comes from a defensive position, maybe an awareness point where she made the ethical connection and that made her feel vulnerable. This does not justify her video by any means, I'm just saying I went and sometimes I still go through that guilt trip that makes me aggresive towards those that highlight my hypocrisy. Stay awesome!
Србомбоница how death? If you make a statement, support it. I can say meat eaters cause death because billions of animals are killed so you can have a meal and enjoy it. Many statistics show vegans are a lot healthier.
It was cool meeting you at the VegFest (I was the woman with the parasol). Meat eaters get so triggered by vegans because they do something that the meat eater would never have thought of past their plate. They don't want to know how their food is made. It cuts into their enjoyment, and that's "not fair"! So they hive mind in their rejection of someone making them feel guilt about something they don't want to feel guilt about. They also take to eating the animal as a prop, as if it was not alive, as if it was not inflicted with pain before they decided it was tasty. They LOVE that disconnect.
Oh, I'm sure she'll see this; she's been on the prowl for any evidence to prove her extremely original and intelligent point that "vegans [on the internet] are mean". Thanks for including my clip! And thank you for introducing the term "moral gymnastics" into my personal lexicon 😂
Yeah, I probably gave her some fodder for her self-congratulation party. Oh well. It started a good conversation and I am happy to include others in my vids, I need to do more of that.
If people hadn't spoken out against slavery and other oppression issues (women's rights and more) who knows where we would be in regard to having made progress on them at this point. Animals rely on humans to be their advocated and voices for them. If we don't - who will? There will always be those people (in ANY group) that will degrade the reputation go that groups's general behavior - so what? Roaming Millenial does no real research so her rant is basically defensive and emotional. I love your response, Mic The Vegan!
Food chain. A lion is higher up than a zebra right? And you are not saving any animals by not eating them because they will be killed regardless if you do or not and eaten by people like me who realized at the age of 7 that whether or not I eat this burger the animal will still be dead. All I hope for is that when they die they do not suffer and when they live they do not suffer.
My buddy started going off about shrimp. Just the 2 of us soooo the only polite thing I could think of was “I’ve never had shrimp”, to which he exploded into his fav recipe. After seeing my face (prob forcing an interested smile), he asked if I’ve tried prawns. Then crab. Finally he asked, “Are you allergic?” I said, “I’m a vegan”. He asked how long, I said 17 yrs, he was shocked & brought up our week long trip we went on with two other friends about 6 yrs ago. I’m like, “yep, I was vegan that whole time!” I guess I just can’t shut up about it. Meanwhile, now I know the best shrimp recipe. Ever watch commercials during a football game? I don’t care about your meat consumption. Keep it to yourself.
People in general talk about what they eat. The only difference is that carnists somehow forget that they talk about the animal body parts they eat continually. It's fine to talk about the meat you eat, but don't discourage others from talking about why they don't eat meat.
Rikasu TV no he doesn't he lies like all vegans do youbar e probably lying right now about not being vegan. Watch her original video and you'll see Mic here is just a propagandist
@@arkcon714 There really is no argument against veganism, and you know it. There is never any justification for killing and torturing sentient beings... you should know that as you are concerned for that mouse in the crop field. Imagine her being lowered into a gas chamber and burned from the inside out, imagine her being confined in a cage where she cant turn around, and having babies and being confined still in her crate while her babies are walking around in their own waste and she is sleeping in her own waste, on a concrete floor with no bedding imagine your little mouse that you are so concerned about, never seeing the light of day until she is stuck in a truck to the slaughter house, her only trip outside and smelling the fresh air is her last day on her way to be gassed and stabbed in the throat. Would you like that to happen to that little mouse you are so deeply concerned about?
people are just shitty, even me, i actually know veganism is better, i don't have an argument against it, but i don't know how to eat healthy, i wish everybody was vegan, then eating healthy would just be normal seriously though i think meat eating is like a social disease or something, these people need help, i need help
Max Kore, have you seen this website? www.challenge22.com/challenge22/?group=362 It's a 22 day vegan challenge, Earthling Ed directs people there who are interested in veganism. You'll get a mentor to help you along, and I can always share some rrrreally easy and filling recipes if you need them! Just finding one super easy and delicious recipe at a time is important, gradually building up a rotation of recipes and learning how to make your favorite recipes vegan, that's what we did. SUPER easy and delicious vegan cornbread: itdoesnttastelikechicken.com/the-easiest-and-most-delicious-vegan-cornbread/ This guy's aim is to help you learn how to make your favorite comfort foods as a vegan!: www.brandnewvegan.com/recipes/texas-style-bbq-soy-curls Good luck!!
My advise: you do not have to become vegan over night! Start with something small - like finding an alternative to milk that you like and use that. Do it step by step. Rushing into it just makes it harder than it has to be. :)
"Most meat eaters do not support animal cruelty" I mean if she thinks that killing those who want to live just because she "likes" to kill them not because she "needs" to kill them is not cruel, then I'm really concerned about ppl and animals around her.
HAHA! Burnt. She is so embarrassed about her unkindness and disrespect towards animals and the environment that she has to pick on the people that are actually doing their best to change the world.
Thank you, Mike. I'm glad that so many people from the vegan community are showing up to this challenge and taking it head on. It's really cool to see people like you take on such an ignorant and delusional person in attempt to shed some light on veganism. Keep it up! It's pretty freaking inspiring.
The point on issues at social events- definitely. My own family has tried sneaking meat into my food or shaming me into staying at an event when I get hungry after I say I'm going to step out to find something to eat and come back; and forget bringing my own food to a grill party. Having to guard my black bean burgers from (again) FAMILY MEMBERS trying to smother them with bacon grease or cheese has just made me begin to abstain from such events altogether. What's fun about standing in a room trying to have a good time with loved ones if you are forced to spend it in verbal combat anyway?
Acid sounds like my life and it doesn't just end with food, recently my family wants to take my daughter out for the day. Places they want to take her are petting zoo, state zoos, aquariums, and circus, i stood my ground and told them that those places are cruel and unnecessary. it amazed me that someone could get so upset over something so avoidable. I got called a freak all because my daughter will never see an animal in a cage for entertainment. Life is so hard when no one wants to hear your opinion.
Find a new family, lol. Actually, it's probably better not to engage in verbal combat. Just be unusually mature and tell them that doing that is disrespectful, and you would never do that to them. Sure, they might keep on trying to use their dumb humor on you like that, but keep your cool.
some of them try it, and like it. But the ones that do are also the ones who don't participate in the sabotage, like my sister. In fact she's even giving vegan eating a whirl! I'm helping her transition from paleo though, which is as you might imagine- a struggle. But she's sticking with it so far. I've managed to help two others transition as well (Thanks in no small part to mics videos, thanks so much again!); and that makes up for the times I have to deal with the mean stuff for me. Luckily for me I've always enjoyed cooking, so I usually help with meal planning but I'm still learning to be honest. Most recent goals are to start cutting sugars and oil and eventually be rid of them completely; but I need to work on my water frying burnt the ever living **** out of my food last time I tried; think I need to invest in a good pan with a proper lid first.
We all know the truth .I became vegan at age 62 for past 6 years I knew everything about slaughter house and..but I did not want face it.WE ALL KNOW IT
lol, I oops that was a typo. I meant "live" (live a long time) but, hey his messages come from the heart and love, so I'll just leave the typo as is. :-)
david bouy SUCH a good point! Logically contradictory to claim animals don't matter because they're dumber than us, and simultaneously claim that animal cruelty is wrong. An omnivore response would be, 'well, there's a scale--they're dumb enough to eat, but too smart to abuse'. Which just shows there is no clear line that logically shows where it's OK to treat animals badly and where it's not. The only absolute line, the line that isn't arbitrarily chosen in order in order to support their prejudiced position, is 'don't harm animals'. It's like omnivore think that vegans just happened to be vegan, and en scramble to find ad hoc justifications. Actually, the justifications came first, then the lifestyle followed.
You're an omnivore too even if you choose to not eat meat since you can still digest meat if u choose to. The better term is a meat eater if you really want to make the distinction since you can't claim to be a herbivore, at least not accurately.
Georgia Lucia point is as a natural eater you can be relatively health and pay no attention to your diet. As a vegan even if you follow your diet plan to the letter it can still be dangerous. Why do you think 84% of people who try to go vegan or vegetarian go back to natural eating so basically there are 5x more ex vegans then there are vegans at any given time, why do you think that is?
there are no ex vegans. just ex plant based eaters. Once you go vegan for the animals there is no going back. I've been vegan for 1.5 years and I've never been healthier. I can do more at the gym than I ever could and I've lost 80 lbs.
Lotus Flower is that a fact? Hahahahaha www.sciencealert.com/new-study-reveals-84-of-vegetarians-return-to-meat www.thecut.com/2014/12/84-percent-of-vegetarians-go-back-to-eating-meat.html www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animals-and-us/201412/84-vegetarians-and-vegans-return-meat-why?amp
You should have posted only the last one, it's quite interesting; the others are pure bullshit. "Thanks to the extreme actions of a select few, animal advocate groups have at times struggled to maintain a favourable reputation with the public, particularly in the US, where PETA continues to embarrass itself." What you have to understand is that being vegan and being on a plant-based diet is not the same. A vegan will never eat meat again; there is no way. Someone on a plant-based diet, ergo, someone who doesn't eat animal products for only health reasons, can find any pretext to going back on eating them.
Her: vegans are mean! *continues to make hateful video about vegans* Me, a vegan, who's never forced my opinions on someone: well that's your opinion, you do you.
This is a great video. I just get angry and become so frustrated, I become inarticulate. Thanks for being passionate, eloquent and entertaining. I sincerely hope she watches this...
5:42 Oh god. I've been a non-meat eater since I was 6, and you have no idea what a living hell every lunch time at school was. Especially living in Mexico, a culture which uses meat in almost all of their recipes. Being 6-years-old, none of us really knew the difference between vegetarian, vegan, and pescatarian, so half my friends told me I wasn't a real vegetarian because I still drank milk, and the other half argued that I should at least eat fish because a "vegetarian" cousin did so. Then there were the kids who would try to get me to eat meat (also assuming I had never tried ham before) or rub it in my face how good their chicken sandwich was. I'm glad I changed to a more accepting school. I'm even vegan now! (yay)
My mind turns crazy and backflips when I try to understand meat eaters and their ethical approach to their diet... They can be some of the sweetest most caring people, even 'animal lovers'.. to an extent.... but yet, they do not have the ability to connect the dots between the cruelty inflicted to the animal which lays butchered on their plate... HOW can they not connect their hearts to this? BECAUSE THEY DONT WANT TO!!! The meat tastes too good for them. They love meat, they love the taste, they love the sensation when biting into the flesh, they go into a flavour frenzy... it is just way too good for them to give up, and so when they see people who HAVE given it up, anger boils up! Vegans start to get shunned and scoffed at by meat eaters, because deep down, the meat eaters are so god damn angry at themselves for not having the strength and heart to stop being a part of collective acts of animal abuse... so they throw all these bullshit regurgitated comments used over and over again like, 'it's natural' 'we're at the top of the food chain' 'god put them on earth for us to eat' 'you can't live without meat' 'it's part of a balanced diet' blablabla... Just open your heart to this madness and give love to the world by stopping this meat consumption!! It is so cruel, and so so sad to know what animals are having to endure every single day... from birth they are abused, neglected, beaten, tormented, tortured, and then eventually slaughtered, more often than not IN THE MOST INHUMANE WAYS!!!! PLEASE people! Please just take some time to look into this, see how amazing the vegan diet is and how it can transform your life!! Not only is it ethical, but it also is going to save the planet! Agricultural farming is destroying the planet. Not even that, it will transform the way you look and the way you feel, your skin will shine, your hair will grow faster, you will have more energy, you will lose weight, you will be so beautifully rewarded for your dietary changes! DO IT.
You will regret is so bad ,you are still just a teen ,your brain is not fully developed,trust me in your late 20s you will suffer for being part of this extremist anti human cult
Its so funny to me, I have quite some reach in facebook due to my profession, most times I blurb out random thoughts and jokes I get around 100 likes and reactions, some times even around 400 and get dozens of comments. but the moment I include the word "vegan" in the post or share one of your insightful, well delivered and researched videos (as Im about to do), whelp, 10 likes, mostly from my vegan friends and my parents. Just went on to pledge to you on patreon man, you do great work and are one of the most powerful assets for the spread of veganism I'd say, should have done it sooner tbh Thanks for you content and keep it up!
You're arguing with a girl who's entire appeal on youtube, and the sole source of her success, is that she is pretty. Really, really, not worth your time.
I have recently become vegan and I was surprised by the impact of my nutrition choice with my friends, some got very defensive when they asked for my reasons (being and Argentinian, they found that shocking) and then the level of ignorance and brain washing they have based on meat and dairy marketing. I did not got defensive in the past when I met vegans, I was lazy to do the research and I found that I was so so ignorant. I feel much better now and happy with my choice. Thank for your videos, they helped me a lot!
omg I'm early I just wanted to thank you seriously you are the best vegan youtuber your content is amazing and you always leave the bibliography so amazing keep it up!!!
Same. As well as the potential backlash you can get just from outing yourself as vegan. Some people are irrationally angry at vegans in general and will lash out at any vegan near them, no matter how we conduct ourselves.
Ah Mic, you’re fab 😉😘👍 Love your videos. Can’t “support” you though, have a pack of rescued cats to care for with my meagre earnings (and yes of course I’m eating a whole food plant based diet myself 😊). Love from Ireland 😘👋👋👋
Babs I know the feeling, we’re skint because the kitten we adopted last year was born with a congenital condition called a liver shunt. It cost us £5,000 to get his liver surgically corrected, so we are paying that off for the rest of our lives. 😣 But he’s a healthy, happy little boy now, so it’s worth it!
When I first went vegan, I tried so hard to be quiet about it, but I soon realized that even when you just politely say "No thank you" when someone offers you meat, they often ask why you don't want it, which is a weird thing to do. Then I tell them I'm vegan and they immediately start with the attacks and obnoxious questions. They are the ones that won't shut up about it, not vegans. Every 'crazy' vegan out there is just tired of hearing the same handful of stupid questions over and over again.
Been waiting for your takedown! I love your tone here: reasonable, with the perfect amount of sass and mockery. I appreciate you and other youtubers fighting the good fight for animals everywhere in such a public way.
Yet another little girl who likes to see and hear herself on YT, spouting off some crazy crap, while not realizing that she is only making herself look/sound ignorant. But she's young, she'll wise up when she matures, hopefully.
what exactly is a "proud meat-eater" anyway? is this someone who feel they accomplished or contributed to something special just by buying meat at the store, prepare a meal with it, then ingest and digest it? that is impressive. . .
Curt Randall it's raw disconnection from reality
I said I was a proud meat eater one time. And I wasn't even sober. But she said this sober.
Curt Randall that's the best comment ever! seriously, what is she proud of?
"Proud meat eater" means that she has 'no sense of guilt or remorse' consuming the flesh of a slaughtered mammal.
Won'tRespond that's because the non semitic state of "israel" controls the US and UK
Where do they meet all those mean vegans??? I haven't met one vegan in my life. Neither mean nor nice. I'd like to know those magical places where vegans are doing all their mean vegan things.
and the vegan restaurants i go to have the NICEST waiters i swear
Look at the comments on this video then. Alot of vegans commenting are commenting about how stupid she is.
X'D... me too, it's like hearing about another planet to me; or a fiction movie, a pleasant one
I've met some mean vegans but 80% of them are super nice
Zolpi I'm in a summer camp right now, and I seriously haven't even mentioned I'm vegan at all, even though I just finished tge 2nd to last day .-. I really would like to know where all these vegans that just shout "IMA VEGAN I'M BETTER THAN U UR ALL EVIL BECAUSE YOU SUPPORT ANIMAL SLOUTER!" are.
People don't hate vegans, they hate being reminded of what they do to animals.
No cinema celery, it has nothing to do with being reminded about what they do to animals, most people don't have a problem with this. It is as stated. we don't hate vegans, but we get pissed off at how many vegans seem to think they have a right to a) tell you as soon as they can that they are vegan, and b) having done so, then start dropping snide remarks or lectures from their perceived moral superiority about our lifestyle,which just happens to be the global present day and historical normal diet for Homo sapiens.
Most people don’t have the self discipline. They can’t do it. Or they just really don’t care about animals.
Most people either believe animals are made to kill like cows/lamb or dont want to "restrict their diet"
you mean kill them humanly as opposed to letting them die of disease or being brutally killed by other animals?
@@mchooksis vegans aren't pushy at all . I had someone tell me I should die because I'm vegan and there excuse was the fact that vegans are pushy . But telling someone to die for there diet isn't pushy ?
The first time i met a vegan about 1.5 years ago I said in front of her 'I hate vegans' still to this day i'm not sure where this toxic thought came from, Was it subliminally programmed or did i just feel threatened by her diet. 1 year vegan now and its the best lifestyle change I've ever made.
proud of you
appreciate the honest buddy good for you!
I'll take "Shit that never happened" for 500. Nice virtue signaling, vegan. I'm sure your group appreciates your lie.
Lol you're free to think whatever you want. We don't care
Of course you do. If you didn't care, you wouldn't be constantly telling non-vegans that you are vegan, or that we are wrong for not being vegan. You would simply be vegan and wouldn't bother with other peoples' choices. Except guess what? Getting involved in other peoples' choices is ALL vegans do.
She tells vegans to not share their opinions as she is sharing her unwanted opinion =*
I wanted her opinion
@@garypack1709 and i didnt
@marcus24000 Too lazy like that Blair White to source vegan restaurants and make a stand and say no I'm not eating animals... never really vegan in the first place. Vegans would rather starve than eat an animal in a restaurant and all restaurants have salad and veg, its not hard is it?
@marcus24000 I dont have a problem outside my own home. I got to cafes or restaurants that have vegan options, I download their menu first and make my choices. All cafes have baked potatoes beans and salad... I certainly do not starve! There is an abundance of food to eat on this planet without having a dead animal on part of your plate, easiest thing I have ever done.
@@avrilfarrell8671 dude...lab meat is a thing now...
"No one cares about your diet"
Makes a whole video about it.
Chloe Le you say this on the channel, one of many channels about vegan lifestyle. ...and she made one video. Almost as is you're reaching...
You mad? Delve into some Psych, brah. When someone doesn't care they typically don't bother with something cause it doesn't bug them let alone film, edit, and release an entire video on it. Btw did you stretch before that reach?
Chloe Le I have a question. Did you watch her video?
Her video isnt about vegans diet tho....she even said she doesnt hate the practice. Its the behaviours of some vegans that her whole video was about....
She made a video about a thing she doesn't care and ask for support.
Strange ... ^^
if you hire an assassin instead of murdering someone yourself it's totally okay ur still a good person uwu
Well said
This comment left me weakkk LMAO.
Kat That’s the problem you’re comparing humans to animals🤦🏿♂️
@@GITMDENZEL And you're comparing animals to what exactly? I mean, I guarantee that you care about animals enough for this to still be considered horrible.
Lol not the same thing, good try though
"Vegans always have to tell everybody about their diet! I didn't want to know"
"I'm a proud meat eater"
Well... maybe...you did the same?
To even claim of being a "proud" meat eater. Proud? You eat meat or not eat meat. But "proud"? Who spews such ignorant garbage? Meat eaters with secret shame and guilt for what they do to animals.
People around me actually introduce me as a vegan. It's annoying.
Jon Ram same here. I've only told like 5 people, but everyone I know now knows because everyone else brings it up all the time.
Jon Ram my mom does that I almost believe she enjoys saying it 😒
Jon Ram 😅 my hubby is the same.
That is great!
it used to annoy me. but now I think it's more to warn people to not act like an idiot around me.
*makes an aggressive video against vegans*
*bases a large part of the video on complaining about vegans being aggressive* 😅
ChelseaLifts *complains about vegans telling everyone they're vegan and saying no one cares after just professing herself a proud meat eater*
Don't forget that she "cares" enough to make an entire video about it.
The problem here is that vegans tend to regard themselves as superior to meat eaters, at least ethically, and that's annoying, particularly since the damage agriculture causes on environment (plants and animals) is at least as agressive as livestock farming. Yes, you don't kill animals directly or, as you say, pay somebody to kill them for you, just kill them indirectly through deforestation or using plaguicides.
Here is what you are saying: people who do not commit murder are actually not ethically superior to those that do since humans incidentally die producing cars, computers, phones and jewelry in other parts of the world...
I haven't said that at all. I have said that killing animals while looking the other way is not ethically superior than killing without looking the other way. If someone dies by accident producing cars we can't say he/she has been murdered (unless he/she was working in inhuman conditions), it's just an accident. But pesticides don't kill by accident, they are used purposely to kill animals. Some of them die directly, like beetles, moles or mice. Some others probably by accident, like bees, butterflies, birds, fishes, foxes, ants, wolves etc But they all are killed so that you can get your plate full of vegetables and fruits. You can call then collateral damage if that quiets your conscience, but changing the name doesn't change the facts.
it's literally the same logic as:
"I've been wronged by an asian guy!!!! I hate them all now!! Can't stand them!!"
Like.. okay sis, get it together.
Actually, it's worse; her argument is more similar to saying:
"An Asian guy was mean to me, therefore I'm now justified in ignoring all Asians when they mention my moral and ethical deficiencies."
Asian guy wronged me so Tofu is bad.
"Most meat eaters do not support animal cruelty". BEST. JOKE. EVER
Alex Riesen millions upon millions of field mice and other small animals that are killed by pesticides or being torn up by farm equipment which is far worse than anything that happens in a slaughter house so tell me what trait does a cow have that a mouse doesn't that justifies you killing it for your food?
ARK CON see, proving Roaming Millennials point about vegans!
ARK CON at least attempt to present a point if you are trying to be me! Hahahaha
Come on tyres1987, time to grow up!
Yeah, we enjoy watching videos of animals being tortured, love that shit.
That sensitive psychopath that's the most honest vegan username I've ever come across. It's not that vegans love watching tortures animals they enjoy making others feels bad about it even though they use a computer made from animal products and is in no way shape or form needed for survival so it's okay to kill animals for luxuries but not for sustainance?
As a vegan i can attest to the fact that everybody else talks about how i am vegan far more than i ever speak of it
YES!!!
When you say you're a vegan, everyone is a dietitian all of a sudden. Rather strange :-P
You may be an aberration to the norm...or at least to those, I"ve met...(this is why I hate generalities...they are based entirely too much on perception and experience and forget to take outliers into account) every Vegan I've met has told me what I horrible person I am for eating meat and how saintly they are for avoiding it. How I will die and they will be healthier...even though one out of the 10 or so I've met has more health problems than I do.
Though I will say that I appreciate you being an awesome and respectful human being. Thank you.
Every vegan is different, just like every meat eater.
Sorry about your bad experience...
so true bro! but for the most part its positive stuff believe it or not! people are seeing how happy and energized i am and theres only one culprit!! whole foods plant based diet bitches!!!! it feels really really REALLY GOOD!
Yessss, just watched the whole thing! and your video was much more well organized than mine lol (as per always) - coming in with all the nutritional info. thanks for including my clip!! I really hope she watches these and re-evaluates her misguided opinion... so many hypocritical statements like how there are all these benefits of being vegan such as health/environmental, but vegans should just never talk about veganism cause it's annoying... k that makes sense.
Cheap Lazy Vegan omg I love your channel!!!
nope she wont change your opinion she is ignorant
No prob! You had some other great points I wanted to include too but the video was getting way long.
Why are you worried about it bein g too long mic? Vegan Gains video was 57 minuits I think
Don't worry about your video being too long. You are one of the few TH-camrs I could watch for hours. I love how intelligent and well put together your videos are. Thanks for all that you do for the vegan community.
When she brought up the intelligence hierarchy... aren't pigs smarter than dogs? I bet she doesn't eat dogs lol
Such a valid point!!!!!
Id eat dogs
Shes half chinese so most likely she ate dog before and as a christian its moral to do so because animals have no soul so its ok according to her religion.
Thou Shalt not Kill ----> Christians need to be Vegan or break one of the 10 commandments
The fact that Roaming eats meat doesn't allow you to be racist, triger 1.
* *claims no one cares about you being vegan* *
* *makes a whole video being dedicated to them* *
EXACTLY, I dont like her, the kind of people who are just rude and insensitive to other people's choices
Meat eaters talk about meat-eating WHILE they complain about vegans saying they're vegan.
Anti-lgbt people do the same thing with sexuality. This has nothing to do with you, just something that compares.
cat's pajamas 😒 isn’t it!
"its not that we can't tell the difference, its that we see the similarities" 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Mr & Mrs Vegan nice to see u here
I loved that too!
Mic is a hero. Thanks so much. Actually the animals thanks you.
gramoukdoom they cant thank you. They're animals. They arent smart. sorry to rain on your parade
sensoryexperience, you are exactly what Roaming Millennial speaks of when she talks about overly aggressive and hostile vegans. You may have your beliefs over what people who eat meat are like but what does your behavior say about you?
I remember walking by a group of vegans showing videos of animals being tortured while I was eating a juicy sausage... I thought it was super funny then, no one said anything to me, and here I am after looking at the research 6 months of being a vegan.
proud of u x
Hurricane Rosey shut up Rosey
are you on auto pilot, lil arky? haha
Hurricane Rosey just destroying your anti science nonsense. Why do you think nobody wants to date you Rosey? You are an anti science vegan zealot and you never shut up! Hahahaha
This is your brain on veganism people!
💚 welcome
Half the time I don't even bring up the fact that I'm vegan people I'm with bring it up at restaurants and shit 🙄
I don't mention it hardly ever, only in restaurant circumstances, even then trying to skirt around the 'V' word, asking "If they can not add/cook with or does this have such and such, etc."
My family and friends tell everyone my diet preferences (which I honestly can't stand in social situations) when I decline certain products.
I specifically choose to not tell people, and yet somehow everyone finds out without me saying anything at all.
Meat industry solely exists because of meat eaters!!! omg this girl! This is hilarious
Yup and I love it:-)
Medicine industry and animal testing for research exists because of customers. Would you stop buying medicine because of this?
@@martok2008 ikr
chickens are so cute!
@Michael Herlihy bad karma, vey very bad karma - you are going to suffer big time. I hope you can handle it.
@Michael Herlihy 🤮🤮🤮🤮
@Michael Herlihy neither is abusing chickens, hanging them upside down and slitting their throats
@Michael Herlihy I like eating stawberries 😊 I don't pay for animals to be hurt because I care about them unlike some people
@Michael Herlihy me too! I just don't like meat though it grosses me out cuz it's well yah know..a dead bird :/
Bravo! If she didn't care so much, why did she waste her time making the video in the first place?
Bonnie Hundley Because she's attention starved, whether negative or positive.
Because she is desperate to increase her audience. She may have done so for this one video, but somehow I think in the long term it will prove to me a very stupid move.
"Vegans are stupid" said every vegan ever before going vegan.
""Vegans are stupid" said every vegan ever before going vegan." Said every vegan, despite only ever having met a handful of other vegans.
Vegans and vegetarians are in denial, with their only real claim being ethics, which is silly. Is it inhumane to eat animals, when ultimately ALL animals get eaten by other animals anyway?
The fact is that life cannot exist without meat eaters to keep herbivores in check, otherwise herbivores simply render land uninhabitable. Yes, humans do consume a lot more than any other animal, but we have higher energy needs due to our increased intelligence, among other things. Humans have adapted to an omnivorous diet because such a diet provides all the nutrients and energy our bodies require, and is also able to be adapted depending on the environment, and what food sources are available.
Also, it is simply not possible to feed the entire population of earth on a solely vegan/vegetarian diet. Not enough land is suitable for growing vegetables etc to accomplish this. And previous attempts to get as much crop growth out of a given quantity of land lead to the dustbowl. A diet incorporating meat is much easier, as animals simply require the right kind of feed, and can be grown/raised anywhere, provided we make the environment suitable for them.
www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/vegan-diet-everyone-us-follow-health-impact-meat-nutrients-deficit-supply-scientists-study-a8064981.html
qz.com/749443/being-vegan-isnt-as-environmentally-friendly-as-you-think/
At the end of the day, vegans are arrogantly trying to force others to think the way they do, by guilting us about "animal suffering". In reality, the ethics of food don't mean jack shit. Caring about how the animals we eat are treated is a waste of time. We don't even know if animals such as chickens can even feel suffering, and even if they could, they're not human.
Try finding independent studies to support your claims, and not those funded by agriculture industries.
Lol. Are you even listening to yourself? You said only shitty untrue things.
Feiky, and flores, any EDIVENCE that his point are not true? After all he posted some sources and you just make a claim they were biased or forged. You provided zero evidence, yet invalidate his whole point. Now THAT is biased and ignorant!
Kodey Graeff I never said that. Speak for yourself.
Not to be disrespectful but.. I have heard some really ridiculous arguments against veganism, but roaming millennial's argument is seriously one of the dumbest ones.
twisted Dagio that's not disrespectful
Seeing by how many stupid people you find yourself surrounded by turning vegan, it might really look like a stupid choice
her argument was against vegans tho, not veganism
twisted Dagio What is her argument about veganism? Do you know? Not from this video...
Really? I thought she made really valid points and was kind enough to not attack the practice. She said she understood why its a good thing. And she was talking about Vegans not the practice. Which if u watch the original video you would see. Looking at the opposing view/both views is always good to do :)
I've been really looking forward to your response! Do you think she'll accept Vegan Gains' invite to debate?! 🙄
BobbyFischer0000 Unfortunately, some people are "that dumb" to believe the B.S. they spew. She followed the trend of making videos criticizing veganism/vegans. If she was chasing fame, she has certainly stirred the pot and received more attention. She got in a Twitter spat with Unnatural Vegan and mentioned possibly debating her on a livestream. If VG does debate her, he'd destroy her like he did to Bearing.
Peter Rabitt Really? Wow, he just put the video up not even an hour ago! Was this on Twitter? I don't have Twitter so I wouldn't know!
not sure Vegan Gains is the person you want to represent any group (assuming group seeks to be taken seriously)
Michael Waszyrowski I understand your point. He can be very.... harsh, but he does have some quality content. In debates, he's very calm, patient and respectful. His reputation just isn't the best.
Peter Rabitt Yikes! Just looked at the Twitter conversation and this will make for a very interesting debate... Mic should join in on VG's side.
This is probably my favorite of the response videos to Roaming Millenial, because it gets into the psychology of why people feel the need to try to discredit veganism by socially stigmatizing vegans. When people are making ethical arguments that would inconvenience your lifestyle, the tendency is to signal that the arguments are coming from a social fringe in hopes of persuading others to agree to go along with dismissing them out of hand.
Chimfish but she doesn't try to discredit veganism... did you watch her video?
Seriously watch her video bro. She totally respects vegans decision to not eat meats. And because vegan vs meat eaters thing Revolves around an ETHICAL issue BOTH SIDES ARE VALID and therefore should be respected. Demonizing someone cuz they have a diff moral code is just mean.
"proud of eating meat" is probably the most stupid thing I ever heard in like...25 years...and I'm 25 yo.
Meat Eater: "Hey, you want some Hamburgers?"
Vegan: "Oh no, I don't eat meat..."
Meat Eater: "LOL DON'T HAVE TO ASK IF SOMEONE IS VEGAN THEY WILL TELL YO-"
Vegan: "I HEARD THAT FUCKING JOKE 100 TIMES!"
"Vegans are mean and hostile." Like dude.. have you checked out Happy Healthy Vegan? Most vegans are hippies lol.
Check the comments on this video. Ii would say alot of these people are pretty hostile.
Allu Kat that's TH-cam in general. It's a zombie apocalypse online
Rock And/Or Roll basically
vegans are very intelligent 🏆they are going to win eventually
Denzil Panchhiya Hahahaha no they won't, theu always lose because science is against them and b12 is linked to brain health
@@arkcon714 yeah - you should get some b12 asap. you are def low.
@@katzensindweich3505 says the vegan!
@@arkcon714 says the vegan that supplements to the dufus that has no idea 😂
@@katzensindweich3505 hahahahahahahahaha
www.webmd.com/vitamins-and-supplements/news/20190408/study-dietary-supplements-do-nothing-for-health
www.treehugger.com/health/another-study-shows-supplements-dont-work-may-cause-harm.html
Try again! Hahahahaha
Meat-eaters: *comment “bacon tho” on every video about veganism.*
Also meat-eaters: “Vegans can’t stop talking about veganism, it’s so annoying.”
I smell hypocrisy
true
I smell it too. The hypocrisy AND the clogged arteries.
Mic you're one brilliant young lad, you know that!?
4BoardAllDay4 I'm really happy that his channel has grown so much. He deserves it.
He deserves 200K, my favorite on YT, so much reason and kindness in one person
SummaSummarum Fitness I didn't see this kindness you speak of I saw a person speaking as though he is a superior person than others and being just as bad as whoever the hell this girl is.
.....seriously, doesn't she hear the words that are coming out of her mouth?
Going solely by the intellectual content of her diatribe it is okay to eat her.
She claims vegans are annoying - while making the most annoying video on the internet
Freediver HD 🥗🥗🥂😂😂
Freediver HD if you think her video is the most annoying, well let me show you the MEME side of the Internet >:)
Freediver HD - second most annoying after this one 😂👌
Freediver HD she was very nice and calm so... maybe you just aren't very tolerant...
Vegans ARE really annoying though.
If we're going by the intelligence hierarchy, that means we can eat Roaming Millenial
Angel Gigi watch the actually video moron she doesn't say we eat because of intelligence hierarchies she says they exist, which they do. Don't you think you should actually watch the video you are attacking? Hahahahaha
This is your brain on veganism people!
ARK CON she said it in 9:32
zeit Hahahaha she never said that's why we eat them, she simply said intelligence hierarchies exist.....which they do! She even says she has issues with eating pigs because of their intelligence, you are attacking a strawman just like Mickey here!
Angel Gigi Can I now argue that you're no smarter than a chicken?
Angel Gigi Actually she's extremely intelligent. Honestly, I don't think you watched the video. Because she didn't say that, she said it by species hierarchy. Goodness.
Im rather chill i don't mind people asking me why im vegan i just tired of the exact same conversations like "i was a vegetarian once" "but protein though" "animals will take over if we don't eat them though" "god put animals for us to eat them though"
Star Pit yes same here. I hate those same basic convos 🙄
Star Pit Also... "I think it's great you're vegan. I wish I could go vegan too, but I just can't give up bacon/cheese/etc." ._.
The last one pisses me off. My grandma says that all the time 🙄
The reason she made the video is because Veganism threatens her world view. Actually in neurological studies where participants were shown a statement that conflicted with their world view, the brain activity went off in the amygdala which is the part responsible for fear. Intellectual friction with your worldview has the same effect on you as if a predator were chasing you. That's exactly why people are so hostile. We build up a fortress of our beliefs and we respond very defensively when anyone tries to destroy it. People don't want to see the truth because it destroys their illusions.
Exactly. People who get their worldview challenged come up with all shorts of excuses to defend their own bubble.
They can even go to down to silly excuses the likes of, "but, plants are conscious living beings too. Why u eat them?"
Vegan Visionary And vegans are the only ones who responded to that psychological challenge (in the animal welfare context) wisely and ethically--by changing their behaviour. Most us weren't born vegan.
Which is what most vegans do.
Ava Sedna exactly vegans are hostile because they are starting to realize there world view is based on pseudoscience......good observation
Caitlin put a baby in front of an apple and a rabbit. what do you think would the baby try to eat?
She's a classic case of cognitive dissonance.
Console Wars Hello console wars. Love you guys. Take me back to long hours as kid playing videogames.
Console Wars In... what way, again ?
@Console Wars. Do you even know what that means?
Fox Citron especially when the best example of cognitive dissonance is Veganism! Hahahahahaha
How so?
mate , that girl , Roaming Millennial, is not the sharpest is she?? shallow ,shallow , shallow
Vegan men are not real men
@@Србомбоница86 true. they are much better than real man.
@@katzensindweich3505 for gays yes,not for straight women
@@Србомбоница86 speak for yourself dreadful homophobe
Србомбоница Go watch the game changers you pussy ass carnivore.
"Duh, if not done properly walking can be dangerous" 😂😂😂
Has she ever tracked, killed, cleaned and prepared her own meat?
Matthew Beal but lions tho
Uhhh have you?
Happy to see you repond to all her bullshit Mike. Can you make a video on whether soda is vegan please?
That video was what made me stop watching her. I am not vegan myself, at least not yet, but that was straight up BS and just mean comments with no justification. Keep up the awesome work, Mic. People like you bring people like me to these videos and make us interested in this aspect. I can tell you from experience that her behavior comes from a defensive position, maybe an awareness point where she made the ethical connection and that made her feel vulnerable. This does not justify her video by any means, I'm just saying I went and sometimes I still go through that guilt trip that makes me aggresive towards those that highlight my hypocrisy. Stay awesome!
You will so regret going vegan ,it's a cult of death
Србомбоница how death? If you make a statement, support it. I can say meat eaters cause death because billions of animals are killed so you can have a meal and enjoy it. Many statistics show vegans are a lot healthier.
@@Србомбоница86 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ... cult of death...LMAO......hilarious, really, thanks for the joke!
@@invero your welcome
@@rajiratala7580 vegetable oils have waaaay too many Omega 6 ,be careful and soy also and peanuts and other nuts ,careful,careful ,just warning you
It was cool meeting you at the VegFest (I was the woman with the parasol).
Meat eaters get so triggered by vegans because they do something that the meat eater would never have thought of past their plate. They don't want to know how their food is made. It cuts into their enjoyment, and that's "not fair"! So they hive mind in their rejection of someone making them feel guilt about something they don't want to feel guilt about.
They also take to eating the animal as a prop, as if it was not alive, as if it was not inflicted with pain before they decided it was tasty. They LOVE that disconnect.
I like the rest of your comment, but uprated this for the "I was the woman with the parasol" part--poetic!
thegazette Sounds like both are in their own bubble on the topic and ive know about how meats been produced but, I Love bugers grass fed though =)
Oh, I'm sure she'll see this; she's been on the prowl for any evidence to prove her extremely original and intelligent point that "vegans [on the internet] are mean". Thanks for including my clip! And thank you for introducing the term "moral gymnastics" into my personal lexicon 😂
Yeah, I probably gave her some fodder for her self-congratulation party. Oh well. It started a good conversation and I am happy to include others in my vids, I need to do more of that.
Mic. the Vegan what you did was whine about nonsense and present zero factually evidence.
tubenshaft he is a good spokesperson! An anti science vegan zealot to represent the rest of the anti science vegan zealots!
If people hadn't spoken out against slavery and other oppression issues (women's rights and more) who knows where we would be in regard to having made progress on them at this point. Animals rely on humans to be their advocated and voices for them. If we don't - who will? There will always be those people (in ANY group) that will degrade the reputation go that groups's general behavior - so what? Roaming Millenial does no real research so her rant is basically defensive and emotional. I love your response, Mic The Vegan!
Food chain. A lion is higher up than a zebra right? And you are not saving any animals by not eating them because they will be killed regardless if you do or not and eaten by people like me who realized at the age of 7 that whether or not I eat this burger the animal will still be dead. All I hope for is that when they die they do not suffer and when they live they do not suffer.
My buddy started going off about shrimp. Just the 2 of us soooo the only polite thing I could think of was “I’ve never had shrimp”, to which he exploded into his fav recipe. After seeing my face (prob forcing an interested smile), he asked if I’ve tried prawns. Then crab. Finally he asked, “Are you allergic?” I said, “I’m a vegan”. He asked how long, I said 17 yrs, he was shocked & brought up our week long trip we went on with two other friends about 6 yrs ago. I’m like, “yep, I was vegan that whole time!”
I guess I just can’t shut up about it. Meanwhile, now I know the best shrimp recipe. Ever watch commercials during a football game? I don’t care about your meat consumption. Keep it to yourself.
I love you mic
marry me
you awesome gorgeous guy you
VEGAN guy you
with pretty eyes and a sexy beards
and attractive smarts
whoa so sudden ummmm
mic got my heart though
NO he's MINE! :-P
MOoUmQ This comment is amazing.
(when the cringe is too strong)
Carnists continually talk about the animal body parts they eat. Are they even aware of that?
I would assume so? Vegans talk about the plant based foods they eat are they aware of that?
People in general talk about what they eat. The only difference is that carnists somehow forget that they talk about the animal body parts they eat continually. It's fine to talk about the meat you eat, but don't discourage others from talking about why they don't eat meat.
Oh, shit. I've never come this early. I don't know what to do.
lol you can watch the video XD
Mic. the Vegan huh ill do that
Mic. the Vegan Now, now.. that's not how 'being early' works! You need proof of your accomplishment :D
Orion C how embarrassing.
Whilst I am not vegan you make a hell of a lot of very intelligent points, and very well put.
Rikasu TV no he doesn't he lies like all vegans do youbar e probably lying right now about not being vegan.
Watch her original video and you'll see Mic here is just a propagandist
I appreciate that you can logically see the intelligent points he makes. ❤️
ARK CON lol, SUUURRRREE
Go vegan! ❤️🌱😂
@@arkcon714 There really is no argument against veganism, and you know it. There is never any justification for killing and torturing sentient beings... you should know that as you are concerned for that mouse in the crop field. Imagine her being lowered into a gas chamber and burned from the inside out, imagine her being confined in a cage where she cant turn around, and having babies and being confined still in her crate while her babies are walking around in their own waste and she is sleeping in her own waste, on a concrete floor with no bedding imagine your little mouse that you are so concerned about, never seeing the light of day until she is stuck in a truck to the slaughter house, her only trip outside and smelling the fresh air is her last day on her way to be gassed and stabbed in the throat. Would you like that to happen to that little mouse you are so deeply concerned about?
I have an eight year old chicken and she is so intelligent. She is friendly and loves to be held, the happiest of hens.
Tiffany Diaz awwww that's so cute
She'd make a great entree.
Kenny McCormick such a funny reply, and very original.
Award-worthy original. *slow clap
"let's go ahead and unpack these feelings together" I died
I did too. funny as hell.
you're so logical, its refreshing! also roaming millennial sounds absolutely clueless in her video
people are just shitty, even me, i actually know veganism is better, i don't have an argument against it, but i don't know how to eat healthy, i wish everybody was vegan, then eating healthy would just be normal
seriously though i think meat eating is like a social disease or something, these people need help, i need help
max kore i really hope that you become vegan soon Max.... Blessss God....
God blesss.
Max Kore, have you seen this website? www.challenge22.com/challenge22/?group=362 It's a 22 day vegan challenge, Earthling Ed directs people there who are interested in veganism. You'll get a mentor to help you along, and I can always share some rrrreally easy and filling recipes if you need them! Just finding one super easy and delicious recipe at a time is important, gradually building up a rotation of recipes and learning how to make your favorite recipes vegan, that's what we did.
SUPER easy and delicious vegan cornbread: itdoesnttastelikechicken.com/the-easiest-and-most-delicious-vegan-cornbread/
This guy's aim is to help you learn how to make your favorite comfort foods as a vegan!: www.brandnewvegan.com/recipes/texas-style-bbq-soy-curls
Good luck!!
My advise: you do not have to become vegan over night! Start with something small - like finding an alternative to milk that you like and use that. Do it step by step. Rushing into it just makes it harder than it has to be. :)
There are at least 20 billion videos of simple vegan recipes on youtube. Just search for "easy vegan recipes."
This was how I thought right before turning vegan. You can do it👍🏻
I'm sitting here, just eating some quinoa with some green lentils and red onion. I squeezed some fresh lemon and a bit of salt and pepper.
and here I am, a white flour chocolate chip pancake with earth balance and syrup. #proudjunkfoodvegan
Both of these comments made me hungry.
Mel Dempsey I'm just eating some toast hahah
yum! here with my oatmeal + chia seeds + rice puffs + rice milk + banana. Gold.
I'm having a pinto bean veggie burrito.
I believe in humanity all over again every time I watch a video of yours.
So sweet :) yeah, there is hope!
"Most meat eaters do not support animal cruelty"
I mean if she thinks that killing those who want to live just because she "likes" to kill them not because she "needs" to kill them is not cruel, then I'm really concerned about ppl and animals around her.
HAHA! Burnt. She is so embarrassed about her unkindness and disrespect towards animals and the environment that she has to pick on the people that are actually doing their best to change the world.
I'd like to thank roaming millenial for bringing up this debate, I'm sure plenty of non vegans are paying attention.
Thank you, Mike. I'm glad that so many people from the vegan community are showing up to this challenge and taking it head on. It's really cool to see people like you take on such an ignorant and delusional person in attempt to shed some light on veganism. Keep it up! It's pretty freaking inspiring.
YES, MIC FOR PRESIDENT!
The point on issues at social events- definitely. My own family has tried sneaking meat into my food or shaming me into staying at an event when I get hungry after I say I'm going to step out to find something to eat and come back; and forget bringing my own food to a grill party. Having to guard my black bean burgers from (again) FAMILY MEMBERS trying to smother them with bacon grease or cheese has just made me begin to abstain from such events altogether. What's fun about standing in a room trying to have a good time with loved ones if you are forced to spend it in verbal combat anyway?
Acid sounds like my life and it doesn't just end with food, recently my family wants to take my daughter out for the day. Places they want to take her are petting zoo, state zoos, aquariums, and circus, i stood my ground and told them that those places are cruel and unnecessary. it amazed me that someone could get so upset over something so avoidable. I got called a freak all because my daughter will never see an animal in a cage for entertainment. Life is so hard when no one wants to hear your opinion.
Amaris M fuck em. if they don't respect your veganism, they don't respect you. sometimes you have to let go of family.
Find a new family, lol. Actually, it's probably better not to engage in verbal combat. Just be unusually mature and tell them that doing that is disrespectful, and you would never do that to them. Sure, they might keep on trying to use their dumb humor on you like that, but keep your cool.
some of them try it, and like it. But the ones that do are also the ones who don't participate in the sabotage, like my sister. In fact she's even giving vegan eating a whirl! I'm helping her transition from paleo though, which is as you might imagine- a struggle. But she's sticking with it so far. I've managed to help two others transition as well (Thanks in no small part to mics videos, thanks so much again!); and that makes up for the times I have to deal with the mean stuff for me.
Luckily for me I've always enjoyed cooking, so I usually help with meal planning but I'm still learning to be honest. Most recent goals are to start cutting sugars and oil and eventually be rid of them completely; but I need to work on my water frying burnt the ever living **** out of my food last time I tried; think I need to invest in a good pan with a proper lid first.
Acid I would distance myself from disrespectful people, whether it's about veganism or anything else. That isn't cool.
One of the greatest defenses of veganism to date!
We all know the truth .I became vegan at age 62 for past 6 years I knew everything about slaughter house and..but I did not want face it.WE ALL KNOW IT
one of the main ones I get is "you should respect my diet because I respect yours" IF I THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY TO EAT MEAT AND DAIRY I WOULDNT BE A VEGAN
I love dairy and meat and eggs
@@Србомбоница86 nobody asked.
LONG LIVE GARY YOUROFSKY!!!
No worries, he's vegan. He will likely love a long time.
Bonnie Hundley and live
lol, I oops that was a typo. I meant "live" (live a long time) but, hey his messages come from the heart and love, so I'll just leave the typo as is. :-)
Bonnie Hundley lol I gotcha, yea Gary is awesome. Its too bad he decided to take a break from activism. I'm sure he's got his reasons tho.
DAMN MIKE, You ripped her a new one.
Why did you go so light on the nutrition part though?
Exotic Parallel video was getting wayyyy too long.
if most meateaters don't support animal cruelty why do they care about intelligence heirarchies?
david bouy SUCH a good point! Logically contradictory to claim animals don't matter because they're dumber than us, and simultaneously claim that animal cruelty is wrong. An omnivore response would be, 'well, there's a scale--they're dumb enough to eat, but too smart to abuse'. Which just shows there is no clear line that logically shows where it's OK to treat animals badly and where it's not. The only absolute line, the line that isn't arbitrarily chosen in order in order to support their prejudiced position, is 'don't harm animals'. It's like omnivore think that vegans just happened to be vegan, and en scramble to find ad hoc justifications. Actually, the justifications came first, then the lifestyle followed.
Nailed it, David.
david bouy because they don't like needles cruelty and violence
You're an omnivore too even if you choose to not eat meat since you can still digest meat if u choose to. The better term is a meat eater if you really want to make the distinction since you can't claim to be a herbivore, at least not accurately.
Allu Kat vegan are biologically herbivores
"Nobody cares about your dietary preferences" As she makes an entire video about our "dietary preferences" loll
15:46 "Duh! If not done properly, walking can be dangerous" 😂😂😂😂
Georgia Lucia point is as a natural eater you can be relatively health and pay no attention to your diet. As a vegan even if you follow your diet plan to the letter it can still be dangerous. Why do you think 84% of people who try to go vegan or vegetarian go back to natural eating so basically there are 5x more ex vegans then there are vegans at any given time, why do you think that is?
i thought that was so funny!
there are no ex vegans. just ex plant based eaters. Once you go vegan for the animals there is no going back. I've been vegan for 1.5 years and I've never been healthier. I can do more at the gym than I ever could and I've lost 80 lbs.
Lotus Flower is that a fact? Hahahahaha
www.sciencealert.com/new-study-reveals-84-of-vegetarians-return-to-meat
www.thecut.com/2014/12/84-percent-of-vegetarians-go-back-to-eating-meat.html
www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animals-and-us/201412/84-vegetarians-and-vegans-return-meat-why?amp
You should have posted only the last one, it's quite interesting; the others are pure bullshit. "Thanks to the extreme actions of a select few, animal advocate groups have at times struggled to maintain a favourable reputation with the public, particularly in the US, where PETA continues to embarrass itself."
What you have to understand is that being vegan and being on a plant-based diet is not the same. A vegan will never eat meat again; there is no way. Someone on a plant-based diet, ergo, someone who doesn't eat animal products for only health reasons, can find any pretext to going back on eating them.
Somebody pls post this on her twitter account. Very good points mic.
Her: vegans are mean! *continues to make hateful video about vegans*
Me, a vegan, who's never forced my opinions on someone: well that's your opinion, you do you.
I bet she thought her video would be this ground breaking vegan shaming thing of the century. 😂
Completely excluded Unnatural Vegan in the response video montage 😂😂😂
On a real level, this video was outstandingly respectful 🙏
purplesplif101 oh i disagree. His tone is a little condescending. He’s very logical and has persuasive arguments tho.
mztpar he has zero logic and no arguments, just his feelings!
Wow that little girl needs some serious love from a chicken, or a rabbit.😁
You my friend deserve a medal. love the final joke, so true.
This is a great video. I just get angry and become so frustrated, I become inarticulate. Thanks for being passionate, eloquent and entertaining. I sincerely hope she watches this...
5:42 Oh god. I've been a non-meat eater since I was 6, and you have no idea what a living hell every lunch time at school was. Especially living in Mexico, a culture which uses meat in almost all of their recipes.
Being 6-years-old, none of us really knew the difference between vegetarian, vegan, and pescatarian, so half my friends told me I wasn't a real vegetarian because I still drank milk, and the other half argued that I should at least eat fish because a "vegetarian" cousin did so.
Then there were the kids who would try to get me to eat meat (also assuming I had never tried ham before) or rub it in my face how good their chicken sandwich was.
I'm glad I changed to a more accepting school. I'm even vegan now! (yay)
Juniperr yeah :)
My mind turns crazy and backflips when I try to understand meat eaters and their ethical approach to their diet... They can be some of the sweetest most caring people, even 'animal lovers'.. to an extent.... but yet, they do not have the ability to connect the dots between the cruelty inflicted to the animal which lays butchered on their plate... HOW can they not connect their hearts to this? BECAUSE THEY DONT WANT TO!!! The meat tastes too good for them. They love meat, they love the taste, they love the sensation when biting into the flesh, they go into a flavour frenzy... it is just way too good for them to give up, and so when they see people who HAVE given it up, anger boils up! Vegans start to get shunned and scoffed at by meat eaters, because deep down, the meat eaters are so god damn angry at themselves for not having the strength and heart to stop being a part of collective acts of animal abuse... so they throw all these bullshit regurgitated comments used over and over again like, 'it's natural' 'we're at the top of the food chain' 'god put them on earth for us to eat' 'you can't live without meat' 'it's part of a balanced diet' blablabla...
Just open your heart to this madness and give love to the world by stopping this meat consumption!! It is so cruel, and so so sad to know what animals are having to endure every single day... from birth they are abused, neglected, beaten, tormented, tortured, and then eventually slaughtered, more often than not IN THE MOST INHUMANE WAYS!!!! PLEASE people! Please just take some time to look into this, see how amazing the vegan diet is and how it can transform your life!! Not only is it ethical, but it also is going to save the planet! Agricultural farming is destroying the planet. Not even that, it will transform the way you look and the way you feel, your skin will shine, your hair will grow faster, you will have more energy, you will lose weight, you will be so beautifully rewarded for your dietary changes! DO IT.
Crazy. 2017 I agreed with her fully, 2018 went vegetarian, 2019 went vegan. I’m 17 and I’m extremely happy to be vegan
You will regret is so bad ,you are still just a teen ,your brain is not fully developed,trust me in your late 20s you will suffer for being part of this extremist anti human cult
YES I was hoping you'd make a video on this
Its so funny to me, I have quite some reach in facebook due to my profession, most times I blurb out random thoughts and jokes I get around 100 likes and reactions, some times even around 400 and get dozens of comments.
but the moment I include the word "vegan" in the post or share one of your insightful, well delivered and researched videos (as Im about to do), whelp, 10 likes, mostly from my vegan friends and my parents.
Just went on to pledge to you on patreon man, you do great work and are one of the most powerful assets for the spread of veganism I'd say, should have done it sooner tbh
Thanks for you content and keep it up!
You're arguing with a girl who's entire appeal on youtube, and the sole source of her success, is that she is pretty.
Really, really, not worth your time.
I have recently become vegan and I was surprised by the impact of my nutrition choice with my friends, some got very defensive when they asked for my reasons (being and Argentinian, they found that shocking) and then the level of ignorance and brain washing they have based on meat and dairy marketing. I did not got defensive in the past when I met vegans, I was lazy to do the research and I found that I was so so ignorant. I feel much better now and happy with my choice. Thank for your videos, they helped me a lot!
omg I'm early I just wanted to thank you
seriously you are the best vegan youtuber
your content is amazing and you always leave the bibliography
so amazing
keep it up!!!
I'm somewhat self-conscious about calling myself a "vegan" in public thanks to the stereotype that we tell everyone without solicitation. Anyone else?
The Debate Hitman I agree, I'm always slightly hesitant when the topic comes up becuase of the backlash I receive when letting them know I am vegan.
'I'm Animal product intolerant, sorry'
Same. As well as the potential backlash you can get just from outing yourself as vegan. Some people are irrationally angry at vegans in general and will lash out at any vegan near them, no matter how we conduct ourselves.
"Sorry I'm lactose intolerant and I don't eat animal products" works great for me. I really get sick so they don't push it, gotta be thankful for that
same here... I sometime say i m a vegeterian and i don t eat dairy either ^^'... when i say i m vegan some ppl roll eyes... it s really annoying
watching now and you made some really solid points from a psychological perspective and in a calm tone. will be subscribing.
You roasted her!!! Lmao yess this is perfect
i appreciate how factual and logical your videos are.....thanks :)
Ah Mic, you’re fab 😉😘👍 Love your videos. Can’t “support” you though, have a pack of rescued cats to care for with my meagre earnings (and yes of course I’m eating a whole food plant based diet myself 😊). Love from Ireland 😘👋👋👋
Babs I know the feeling, we’re skint because the kitten we adopted last year was born with a congenital condition called a liver shunt. It cost us £5,000 to get his liver surgically corrected, so we are paying that off for the rest of our lives. 😣 But he’s a healthy, happy little boy now, so it’s worth it!
THANK YOU for touching on that point about mental disabilities. I was just about to say that.
When I first went vegan, I tried so hard to be quiet about it, but I soon realized that even when you just politely say "No thank you" when someone offers you meat, they often ask why you don't want it, which is a weird thing to do. Then I tell them I'm vegan and they immediately start with the attacks and obnoxious questions. They are the ones that won't shut up about it, not vegans. Every 'crazy' vegan out there is just tired of hearing the same handful of stupid questions over and over again.
I'm vegan
Sk ya Fuck off.
Just kidding. I genuinly don't care.
Sk ya you're a good person 👍, stay strong
You're also unhealthy.
C U Milk is necessary to build strong bones. Meat is necessary to build strong muscles. And both are necessary to not be a mentally unstable lunatic.
C U Supplements are unnatural you anti-science vegan lunatic! hahahaha
Without the pharmaceutical industry you would be screwed! hahahaha
perfect video, seriously!
Been waiting for your takedown!
I love your tone here: reasonable, with the perfect amount of sass and mockery.
I appreciate you and other youtubers fighting the good fight for animals everywhere in such a public way.
Yet another little girl who likes to see and hear herself on YT, spouting off some crazy crap, while not realizing that she is only making herself look/sound ignorant. But she's young, she'll wise up when she matures, hopefully.
This video is just as good as vegan gains' video lol (in a completely different way).