Dancers in the autumn of their career 4/5 - Rudolf Nureyev 1979-1989

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  • Ballet dancers usually retire in their mid-40s or sooner. The very few who hold onto the stage dancing non-character roles are controversial... Let's have a look.
    (I've also included some footage from his early 40s - before he turned 45)
    1979 Giselle (Nureyev after X,Y,Z) with Lynn Seymour • Рудольф Нуреев. "Жизел...
    1981 Don Quixote (Nureyev after X,Y,Z) with Noella Pontois www.youtube.co...
    1982 Marco Spada (Lacotte) with Gislaine Thesmar
    1983 Romeo and Juliet (Nureyev) with Carla Fracci
    1984 The Tempest (Nureyev) • Video
    1989 La Sylphide (Bournonville) www.youtube.co...

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  • @user-kj8zm3qw9f
    @user-kj8zm3qw9f 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Красив, изящен не оторвать глаз ! Люблю всякого - на танцующего с порванными связками , из последних сил и больного смотрю с восхищением победителя! На родной сцене и зал рукоплескал!

  • @silvertrees6326
    @silvertrees6326 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Yes, there are those of us who so love watching this great dancer, even in face of all the criticism of him. It's a human condition you know, to rise above criticism and enjoy your art.

    • @alexingresss2420
      @alexingresss2420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Who is enjoying this? You or he? He doesn't look like he's enjoying himself, he looks like every step hurts. Nor is here much art to look at, sadly.

    • @lindildeev5721
      @lindildeev5721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@alexingresss2420 Ballet was his love, the only thing that kept him alive. He fought age and illness with that, even knowing that he couldn't win.

    • @alexingresss2420
      @alexingresss2420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lindildeev5721 I believe being on stage was his love, which isn't quite the same thing as loving ballet. If he had loved the art form he would have stopped performing because he wasn't doing the art form any favors with poor performances. He loved himself more than the art form.

  • @lindildeev5721
    @lindildeev5721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    People are saying that he was bad, especially in his last years. I disagree. Ballet has never been about showing how talented a dancer is but how well he can tell a story with his body and Rudolf did that like nobody else.

  • @tamarariga6039
    @tamarariga6039 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Он прекрасен.С возрастом проявилась глубина актёрского дарования.Он драматичен в своей пластике.Здесь видно,что он русский актёр.

  • @user-kj7hc8ub4s
    @user-kj7hc8ub4s 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Обожаю Р.Нуреева!

  • @user-qy2vz9nh8q
    @user-qy2vz9nh8q ปีที่แล้ว +12

    С катэтэром в сердце, с разорванными связками на ногах ,в 52 года ,а всё же станцевал!!!!! Вот это воля, железные стойкость!!!!! Он это сделал!!!!! Эта легенда!!! Любим! Восхищаемся нашим земляком! Руди! Ты один такой!

    • @user-kj8zm3qw9f
      @user-kj8zm3qw9f ปีที่แล้ว +1

      про катэтэр ничего не слышала

    • @rmp7400
      @rmp7400 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He probably accepted oxygen back stage - after performances. 🤔

    • @neuzapinheirotorres3940
      @neuzapinheirotorres3940 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Te amamos Rudik! Honra estar na terra no mesmo tempo que você.❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @virginiamariadubois3105
    @virginiamariadubois3105 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    R. Nureyev shows that he was no more strenghts especially from the video of the 1981 in the role of Basilio. Then, it was a long descent until the 1989 in wich he wanted stubbornly to perform at the Marijnski that cost him a lot of effort in the preparation.Although i feel pain to see her decadence , i have never criticized his desire to perform until the last, because Rudy was a man extremely alone, but with one great love : the stage and the dance and also for this he entered the legend.

    • @pediatrapaola
      @pediatrapaola 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      tu sai la mia opinione nel bene e nel male

  • @arepo
    @arepo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Watching this again after a few years and it's every bit as dispiriting as I was remembering it. He can still execute a few steps cleanly here and there but most of it is desperate strain. The fussiness of the choreography drives me crazy.

  • @user-rd1hm4bh3f
    @user-rd1hm4bh3f 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ни когда в России не ценят людей тем более таланты

  • @user-of6ht4jd1s
    @user-of6ht4jd1s 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Блистательно!

  • @Feliandyx16
    @Feliandyx16 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Lo hizo con los pies destrozados con el SIDA comiéndole el cuerpo y aun así lo disfrutaba hasta los 51, increíble y pensar que muchos a los 35 ya sienten que el mundo se les acabo, Gene Kelly fue famoso hasta los 32 y aun así hizo una enorme carrera

  • @ilariasebastiani3136
    @ilariasebastiani3136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    E meno male che è nell' "autunno" della sua carriera ... chissà che ha fatto all'inizio!!!! Sempre immenso, Rudik ...!

  • @sandatoacsen9858
    @sandatoacsen9858 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    L, autuno e la staggione della racconta dei frutti ! ❤️

  • @user-kj7hc8ub4s
    @user-kj7hc8ub4s 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @user-kj8zm3qw9f
    @user-kj8zm3qw9f 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Танцует любовь моя! Если бы его не было, я бы его придумала

  • @susannevollmer2347
    @susannevollmer2347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    He was sitting in his own trap! But people who loved him and ballett forgave a lot.

  • @arepo
    @arepo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This is more like the freezing winter of his career :( I don't know what's more dispiriting, the all-pervading stiffness of the body and lack of line, the effortful dancing, or the fussiness of his choreography? The chore is maddening and his physical condition is heart wrenching... He was his own enemy, no one could have destroyed his reputation like he did. A very sad affair.

    • @Marta44339
      @Marta44339 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sadly, I must agree, and also agree with V.M. Dubois. It is painful to watch, and yet once can understand his desire to "dance to his death" .

    • @pediatrapaola
      @pediatrapaola 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      completaly agree ,l saw the whole festival nureyev in london in 1979 and he was already very low shape ,later better forgetting personally stopped going to see him around 81 or so ,was too painful watching him destroying his former great fame and immage

    • @mariaellis2882
      @mariaellis2882 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pediatrapaola He must have started declining around 1977, but he wasn’t even sick yet. Not until around 1983 did he know he was ill.

  • @ballet701
    @ballet701 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Heartbreaking to watch.😢

    • @pediatrapaola
      @pediatrapaola 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      so sad ,and l was in theatre in rome in occasion of this marco spada ,was a nightmare

    • @ballet701
      @ballet701 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      pediatrapaola He just could not live without performing. Many artists go the same way.

    • @pediatrapaola
      @pediatrapaola 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      leave the stage before the stage leaves you as told tamara karsavina ,never advice was more right.

    • @ixopo6715
      @ixopo6715 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pediatrapaola I seriously thought he was going to hit the deck during those solos of Marco Spada as he was consistently off balance. It is a shame the footage exists.

    • @pediatrapaola
      @pediatrapaola 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ixopo6715 was a very sad performance

  • @bocskailucia159
    @bocskailucia159 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Unfortunatly,there are few people,in art,generally speaking,who know when to say "goodbye " !

  • @kabardinka1
    @kabardinka1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Never seen the Marco Spada footage before. Ouch. Can you imagine what other dancers standing onstage much have thought looking at that? Reputation will only get you so far, someone needed to shake Rudi by the shoulders and tell him "you're not going onstage dancing that crap." Shame on producers and company administrators who allowed him to get away with that garbage.

    • @pediatrapaola
      @pediatrapaola 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      l was in rome in opera theatre in 1980 when this was shoted ,was a nightmare a revision of pierre lacotte with rudy already completaly washed alas danced geslaine thesmar and the exccelent michael denard that partially saved the performance .

    • @mariaellis2882
      @mariaellis2882 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pediatrapaola were tickets to this performance ( Marco Spanda) expensive? Because here he is dancing like he is from some local, unknown ballet company.

    • @pediatrapaola
      @pediatrapaola 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mariaellis2882 not like now if compared with todays prices in main hopera houses but already pretty expensive and in this case completaly out from this world as you rightly noticed

  • @sandatoacsen9858
    @sandatoacsen9858 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    💙💞❤️

  • @simaraft7373
    @simaraft7373 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Does anybody know how he responded to all the bad reviews he got? I remember a NY Times review that was so nasty that in my passionate youth I wrote an angry letter to the editor about it! It was just so nasty.

    • @kabardinka1
      @kabardinka1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I suggest reading the Diane Solway book, an "unauthorized biography" which tells it like it was with no soft pedaling. He was bitter and, yes, even vindictive about the late 70s-1980s reviews but ultimately knew they were right (he had very high standards of dancing about everyone else other than himself). He went so far as to very publicly attack certain reviewers, like Anna Kisselgoff, who rightly called him out on his sloppiness and failing technique (not to mention his often mediocre choreography). Yes, some of the reviews were personal attacks, but imagine seeing Rudi's very low standard of performance being consistently offered for top dollar ticket prices. It really didn't do the world of ballet any good.

    • @simaraft7373
      @simaraft7373 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks a lot for the link. Youre right this is not one of the nasty ones. When all is said and done I don’t think Nureyev was such a mystery. He liked money, he was vain, he hated old age - the usual stuff. And he liked to be on the stage rather than behind it. So he had to take the upper hand and say he danced as well as his Leningrad days. I think that’s all, no philosophy needed!

    • @simaraft7373
      @simaraft7373 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Totally agree. And one thing about Russians is that they don’t suffer fools gladly. People in the west are much more polite and held back which unfortunately makes fertile ground for dishonesty and hypocrisy. In the west you’re never quite sure who’s stabbing you in the back and how. Makarova was smart for marrying a rich man and not really entering the fray. Sorry you don’t have that option, guys!

    • @pediatrapaola
      @pediatrapaola 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      he didn't at all what he did in lenigrad where was magnificent ,later .............

    • @linhiril664
      @linhiril664 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@kabardinka1 Kisselgoff NEVER had a good word for him, no matter what or how he did. She was a vulture.

  • @kabardinka1
    @kabardinka1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It's also worth saying with Rudi... if someone actually had the power to just edit out his idiotic extra steps he threw in (as in the Marco Spada video) he would have looked a lot better (or at least, less worse). If he just performed steps fully, calmly and phrased them better they wouldn't look so messy... instead he's always tossing in another rond de jambe or cramming in more beats and jumps where they're least needed.

    • @pediatrapaola
      @pediatrapaola 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      his beloved awful petit rondejambes that he performed everyewhere without any reason he also ruined basilio variation with his hideous petitrondejambes

    • @susannevollmer2347
      @susannevollmer2347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I must agree totally!!!!

    • @mariaellis2882
      @mariaellis2882 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Completely agree

  • @alexingresss2420
    @alexingresss2420 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is very sad to behold but the truth is he had only himself to blame for it

    • @kabardinka1
      @kabardinka1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes, he totally had himself to blame, but I also blame producers, theater administrators and company directors who allowed him to present those pathetic performances all in the name of making a buck. They were defiling the standards of their companies by giving those fiascos by presenting the supposedly "great Nureyev."

    • @mariaellis2882
      @mariaellis2882 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kabardinka1 If I did not know who he was, I would have guessed that he’s just some male dancer from a local, unknown ballet company.

  • @mariaellis2882
    @mariaellis2882 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If I didn’t know this was Nureyev, I would have thought that he’s a dancer in some local, unknown ballet company. Sad.

  • @AnnabellaEdeL
    @AnnabellaEdeL 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not controversial! People still want them to be good so they've got the illusion. Here he's worst and worst. At 40 everybody looses strength, even Nureyev. It's a big mistake to hold on to the stage when you're past 40. And I wonder if, in Nureyev's case, he was not only getting older but also lacked a good ballet master for himself. In those days ballet was still blossoming in the west and there were really no Russian ballet masters available and very few in Europe who could have coached him.

    • @pediatrapaola
      @pediatrapaola 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      you know my opinion navarre he was really outstanding when was in kirov ,in west he went worst quickly losing his kirov style and developing some questionable mannerisms .in russia he had puskin shavrov zubkovsky teaching top soloist classes in kirov later....but apart this he really danced too much l belive he danced 3 times more than every other top male star and really destroyed his body never giving to his muscles time to recover ,he was an admirable hardworker but our body has limits

    • @AnnabellaEdeL
      @AnnabellaEdeL 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      So then, he didn't get the training anymore. He was kind of lost during his years in the west. It looks to me like he never recovered from losing Russia, which is understandable. He missed his family and the Kirov and he and his family were constantly intimidated by the KGB. So traveling and dancing in that in excess was a consequence of this emptiness and loneliness.

    • @pediatrapaola
      @pediatrapaola 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      once he told in an interwiew that the only thing he missed from russia was alla sizova as partner

    • @kabardinka1
      @kabardinka1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There are some male dancers, like Roberto Bolle, who are continuing to dance extremely well into their 40s (not to mention other dancers like Vladimir Vasiliev who performed at a very high standard until their retirement). Rudi was a special case because he toured and performed so much more than any other performer in history until his body broke down. Moreover, because he didn't have consistency of teaching and coaching, he became sloppier and sloppier past his mid-30s. He worked with some outstanding teachers like Stanley Williams who, had he completely submitted to their teaching and stayed long enough to benefit him, might have helped sustain a higher quality of performance. But Rudi was always on to the next country and paycheck.

  • @mariachile2368
    @mariachile2368 ปีที่แล้ว

    Creo q la calificación de un bailarin, así como de un deportista, corresponde hacerla a la edad de mayor capacidad física, aprox. entre 20 y 26 años. Obvio q despues va descendiendo progresivamente, es natural 🤷. Lo contrario seria decir a sus 50 años , q Messi es mal futbolista....... 💐💐💐

  • @oliverdownunder9397
    @oliverdownunder9397 ปีที่แล้ว

    S A D

  • @pediatrapaola
    @pediatrapaola 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    l was in rome opera when marco spada was shoted was around 1980 l was 26 rudy was 42 or so ,he was awful frankly awful ,but people didn't care were like blind ,he was rudy .personally l saw on stage a puppet the ghost of the dancer he was .l also saw vladimi vasiliev also in 80 for exemple he was 40 saw him in his macbeth ,and is dancing ,despite if no longer at the top was still very good he was not devasted like nureyev ,and also when saw vasiliev dancing zorba in 1990 at 50 his dancing was still more than accettable you can see it on the video of zorba the greek here on yt .