Budget Commander: $20 Faceless Menace Upgrade

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  • @Ballpython77
    @Ballpython77 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    played 4 games last night with this deck. won 3 out of 4. OMFG what a blast!!!!! most fun deck i've played in years. i love how my opponents struggles knowing what to do.

  • @EffinChat
    @EffinChat 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I pre-ordered Faceless Menace from my LGS as soon as I saw the full decklist, I'm so excited for it.
    I'm also excited to see how you tech Volrath when that video comes out

  • @sylorknag
    @sylorknag 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I liked the video before even watching ...... was really waiting for this.

    • @ry7hym
      @ry7hym 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah same

  • @medieval4516
    @medieval4516 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    MERCILESS RAGE! LETS GET THEM UPGRADES FOR THE NEW CHAINER! RED/BLACK DREDGE, LETS GO!

  • @deyicon1983
    @deyicon1983 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Morph is the Great Value of mechanics to build around

  • @aidencrabtree1755
    @aidencrabtree1755 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I Don't understand how ugin makes morphs cheaper. The spell is colorless bescause it can morph right?

    • @medieval4516
      @medieval4516 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes

    • @sylorknag
      @sylorknag 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      face down morph are considered colorless spells

    • @jaysillynx3190
      @jaysillynx3190 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The ability that lets you cast morphs for 3 is essentially an alternate casting cost, which lets you cast your morph as a colorless creature, thus allowing for Ugin's mana reduction ability to work for that alternate cost.

  • @jetsetdizzy9433
    @jetsetdizzy9433 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mystic Forge works with morph!

  • @abe10alpha
    @abe10alpha 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Some other cool cards to add:
    - Mystic Forge
    - Whisperwood Elemental

    • @XxSasorixX
      @XxSasorixX 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whisperwood is in the list to add at the end.

    • @Mr2ndAmendment27
      @Mr2ndAmendment27 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why mystic forge?

    • @abe10alpha
      @abe10alpha 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Matthew Doucette Mystic Forge allows you to cast morph creatures off the the top of your library. Because you announce that you are casting a morph, the spell becomes colorless therefore you can cast it through mystic forge.

    • @Mr2ndAmendment27
      @Mr2ndAmendment27 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@abe10alpha ohhhh gotcha.. that makes a lot of sense ... Hmmm now I'm considering if I'll make that addition to mine. Faceless menace is a cool deck.. won't disagree with that at all.. it's power level isn't unstoppable either so it makes for fun interaction as there aren't countless morph creatures out there.

  • @Argschnarbler
    @Argschnarbler 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the help! Lots of these out of stock now DX had to find alternatives.

  • @derekwalter4238
    @derekwalter4238 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would be interested in that video on why you shouldn't play temple of the false god. I always thought it was good, but I'm happy to hear things from another perspective

  • @forgottonpast6847
    @forgottonpast6847 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Scornful Egotist should be added

    • @basicpigeonbee
      @basicpigeonbee 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Killing an Egotist is the ultimate feel bad

    • @ry7hym
      @ry7hym 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol

  • @sting2291
    @sting2291 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What is the new “surprise I win card” now that you cut the other two? Just midrange value for the win?

  • @aR0ttenBANANA
    @aR0ttenBANANA 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I suppose you'll be making these for all the decks?

    • @cooldes4593
      @cooldes4593 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seth said he would on stream so yes

    • @matterhorn731
      @matterhorn731 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, he said so at the end.

  • @basicpigeonbee
    @basicpigeonbee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wait why is temple bad?
    Even if you're playing a deck around getting lands into the battle field quickly?

    • @TheIncredibleFlames
      @TheIncredibleFlames 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Cxxvii having a regular land all the time is better than having an ancient Tomb some of the time imo

    • @basicpigeonbee
      @basicpigeonbee 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheIncredibleFlames but like why?
      Is it because early game its bad and mid game its just okay

    • @thomashealion8388
      @thomashealion8388 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@basicpigeonbee Thats it. When you need it to ramp it cant even tap for one, and when it can tap for two you dont need the ramp as much.

  • @juliandelemos4651
    @juliandelemos4651 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Unpopular Opinion: I like Temple of the False God. Is it horrible if you don't have the lands? Yes, but pretty much all commander decks in green can find lands via Rampant Growth, Cultivate, etc. While it is a suckier sol ring, its still more or less a sol ring.

    • @Kazz1187
      @Kazz1187 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I join you on this unpopular opinion. Idk what’s so bad about it. If it’s just that you don’t want to see it early, fine. That makes sense. Otherwise, it provides 2 colorless Mana as a land :o

  • @jean-baptistedelabroise5391
    @jean-baptistedelabroise5391 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Saw heartless summonings and words of wind in commandzone find those very relevant

  • @mrmannimaker8509
    @mrmannimaker8509 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can someone explain to me the wincondition/ winning plan of the upgraded deck is? I'm just seeing that the deck probably performs better, has good morphs which you play with Kadena, draw cards and be unpredictable... But mostlikely winning through combat?

  • @restoreleader
    @restoreleader 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder, isnt Wilderness Reclamation the very first thing to include? Or Prophet of kruphix - having all mana prepared for turning those morphs after your turn should be pretty usefull

    • @skeetkeat
      @skeetkeat 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Prophet of kruphix would be perfect, so perfect its actually banned in edh. :(

    • @restoreleader
      @restoreleader 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@skeetkeat Nah i do not care about card market machinations of those few bastards, only playgroup choose what to ban. In this case tho, they will send me to hell probably :D

  • @sofer2230
    @sofer2230 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know it's way overbudget, but would All Is Dust be worth it as an "on-theme" board wipe? Like, there has to be some table cleaner that takes advantage of morphs but other than that and Nightmare Unmaking I can't really think of any.

    • @tomerabramovici32
      @tomerabramovici32 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That could be sweet!

    • @damianmonaghan3205
      @damianmonaghan3205 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      So wouldnt tomb of the spirit dragon. Gain 1 life for each morph.

  • @herpderp2max
    @herpderp2max 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Morph tribal" yet all I'm really seeing is brine elemental combo

  • @maxloggins2930
    @maxloggins2930 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can i remove pendat of prosperiry from the deck and add mastermind's
    Acquisition? You have in your list 2 flexible tutors and this tutor is the second cheapest tutor i Can buy :P

  • @christophwehrmann892
    @christophwehrmann892 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a nice video! Pls more of this :D

  • @the_old_crimge74
    @the_old_crimge74 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why still run signet's over Talismans?

    • @tomerabramovici32
      @tomerabramovici32 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I left out Talisman of Dominance because it's currently $2USD. The other two are in there.

    • @the_old_crimge74
      @the_old_crimge74 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tomerabramovici32 ah, ok, cool

  • @gabriellapierre4253
    @gabriellapierre4253 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would you put the link of temple of the falls god

  • @bigwig8657
    @bigwig8657 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wouldn't wilderness rec as a weaker but cheaper and harder to remove seedborne muse, especially since the effects stack. As it still doubles a morph decks mana for cheaper than most mana doublers.

    • @Neo_Way
      @Neo_Way 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Problem is that it's not just a little weaker, it's MUCH weaker because you'll only untap on your end step.

  • @Uucyfer
    @Uucyfer 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a list of the cards you suggested somewhere? The names in the video are too small to read or are too blurry. At least the cards behind the first row of cards.

  • @hydra66
    @hydra66 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    good video. Tomer, would you go over the 20 individual new inclusions in more detail in future vids rather then spending 10 secs with a slide flashing by?

    • @JurinoJr
      @JurinoJr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Read article

  • @clarkmilstead9927
    @clarkmilstead9927 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it worth it to put in a shamanic revaluation in this deck? Idk if it’s in the precon

    • @sofer2230
      @sofer2230 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Morphs aren't usually large creatures, so you wouldn't get much life out of it. For card advantage you have plenty of cheaper options like Mystic Forge. Life gain is harder... I suggest Tomb of the Spirit Dragon.

  • @maxloggins2930
    @maxloggins2930 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn brine elemental and Vesuvan shapeshifter is good combo

  • @kirilldcs439
    @kirilldcs439 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, for your work!

  • @Minecrap13HatesAnime
    @Minecrap13HatesAnime 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why would you include Guardian Project? Does turning a morph face up count as a etb?

    • @shawnc292
      @shawnc292 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Playing a morph triggers the project. They have no name so they trigger it

  • @guilhermeribeiromichelino3852
    @guilhermeribeiromichelino3852 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chainer and Gerrard are both commanders that I want to see

  • @aunrah02
    @aunrah02 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love these vids. Thank you

  • @tylerbalding8777
    @tylerbalding8777 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is that crab image from?

    • @tomerabramovici32
      @tomerabramovici32 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's the new C19 art for Chromeshell Crab

  • @WBWhiting
    @WBWhiting 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tomer, in your slide of card ratios laying out card slots you put in every deck, you forgot 3 slots for Kaldra.

  • @redmist8405
    @redmist8405 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rattleclaw Mystic can't be play because it has red in it tap ability. Do not put it in the deck. please fix the article with the small error. Thanks Seth.

  • @sylorknag
    @sylorknag 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guys. As much as I love this deck, and it's the one im getting, I'm having trouble finding the Wincon. Can someone enlighten me pls

    • @tomerabramovici32
      @tomerabramovici32 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Smash face with your bigger creatures, Overwhelming Stampede, Ghastly Conscription, Thieving Amalgram etc.

    • @ry7hym
      @ry7hym 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      vesuvian shapeshifter + brine combo locks your opponents out of the game

  • @Kazz1187
    @Kazz1187 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn’t know temple of false god is bad. I put it in my decks, so I want to know What makes it bad? :o

    • @BozzLightyr
      @BozzLightyr 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I imagine it is to do with the fact that it's a card you don't want to see too early. Kind of makes it dead early game unless you have ways to search lands etc idk

    • @Kazz1187
      @Kazz1187 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea, they dunked on temple of the false god real hard haha.

    • @SlaRs133
      @SlaRs133 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't get it either tbh... it's a ramp spell with the land type, and pretty good (unless your meta is awfully fast)

  • @ii7i7i7
    @ii7i7i7 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tomer Guardian project wont work in this deck :P

    • @fredknobel3452
      @fredknobel3452 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Morphs don't have names.so they do work with it. Since you can not share a name if you don't have one.

    • @ii7i7i7
      @ii7i7i7 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fredknobel3452 ur right. Was unexpected to me. Thanks! :D

  • @user77434
    @user77434 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How is it $20? Ends up almost $50 at cardkingdom for near-mint cards.

    • @ry7hym
      @ry7hym 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      mtg cardmarket.com

  • @d3sbb
    @d3sbb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Am I crazy or are you taking out 26 cards and putting in 27?

  • @felixlavey86
    @felixlavey86 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    thenx Tomer

  • @wrennthewizard144
    @wrennthewizard144 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your general ratios are exactly the same as the Commander’s quarters

  • @TheRoltonFan
    @TheRoltonFan 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    THANK YOU OH TOMER

  • @nardzf8805
    @nardzf8805 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Still waiting for Lord Windgrace 😁😁😁

  • @FantomMind
    @FantomMind 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Temur. War. Sheemin.

  • @Tehkneekz
    @Tehkneekz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    $50 upgrade now

    • @Tehkneekz
      @Tehkneekz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      also it says remove 27 and add 26. keep Putrefy and consider keeping hex.

  • @KitsuLeif
    @KitsuLeif 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Words of Wind anyone?

  • @ShareloveT
    @ShareloveT 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This isn’t commander clash slacker... boo!